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5174284 No.5174284 [Reply] [Original]

>this is the only legal stage

Well, that's fun.

>> No.5174297

Just play Melee then. It's 100% a straight upgrade because it did nothing but build upon what was laid out in the first game. IT even has that damn stage.

>> No.5174298

>>5174284
To be fair it was always the best even before competitive stuff came out.

Fave stage most hated?
Fave: Hyrule / Dreamland / Peaches
Honorable mention: Congo Jungle

Worst/least fun: Zebes

>> No.5174306

>>5174298
My favorite was Sector Z. I just loved the music and atmosphere of it.

>> No.5174309

You don't play competitive anyway, OP.

>> No.5174310

>>5174298
For casual (aka the best way to play):

GREAT
Hyrule Castle
Sector Z
Peach’s Castle
Kongo Jungle

GOOD
Dreamland
Yoshi’s Story
Saffron City

OKAY
Mushroom Kingdom

SHIT
Zebes

>> No.5174394

>>5174298
>>5174310
anti-zebes babbies just hate getting ten timed off the acid
mushroom kingdom is the worst but still playable

>> No.5174723

>>5174298

Hyrule castle was the go to whenever i had my friends over for free for all carnage.

I never liked the Yoshi level, the tilted surfaces, the platforms being awkwardly a bit too high compared to the kirby level, and the long screen edge to the right were a pain.

>> No.5174751

Hyrule Castle is the only stage that's playable and not a complete mess. This is also true in Melee.

>> No.5174765

>>5174751
>playable
>when it has walls you can get pinned against

>> No.5174779

>>5174284
>doesn't like fair play in ranked competition involving many players
Well, you sure sound like fun. Let me guess. Your rules are you play as whatever cheap character you want and you pick any stage you want. Oh, and you have to be player one. And not just because no one wants to play with you. Because you loose and cry even with your rules.

>> No.5174954

>>5174751
I think I heard that the left side of the stage is hard to attack for pro players. Because of the incline.

>> No.5174993

>>5174284
Nice emulation, nerd. Maybe start worrying about getting the game to run correctly before you worry about what's tourney legal.

>> No.5175031

>>5174297
But I can’t play Kirby competitively

>> No.5175034

Kirby is broken in this game

>> No.5175072

Zebes is such a shit stage

Even Mario's ones were better

>> No.5175116

>>5174779
I can smell the BO and Mountain Dew through my screen.

>> No.5175173

>>5174284
>this is the only legal stage
ssb is 19. every stage is legal.

>> No.5175286

>>5175116
It's being reflected by your screen dumbass

>> No.5175842

>>5174394
I just wished we could have had an effect on acid frequency, it's a good level actually, I like the uneven bottom platform, but the lava just meant you spent most of your time jumping in the air and not interacting with the level

>> No.5175849

>>5175286
>no u

>> No.5176024
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>>5174284
>>5174993
How did you not notice the tree, op?

>> No.5176027

>>5175034
How? Because of his down kick move? It's to balance the fact he becomes rubber after like 80%

>> No.5176070

>>5175116
Kek

>> No.5176104

People who try to make a pro tournament scene out Smash are just flat out funny to me.

You might as well make a pro scene out of Mario Party.

>> No.5176118

>>5176104
Honestly, I've always wanted to see a competitive-level Mario Party game.

>> No.5176278

>>5175031
I'd recommend Project M or even Brawl Minus, where he's even better, then
>>5174310
In PM, I really liked Planet Zebes but really dislike going to Hyrule Castle
But I also really like Yoshi's Story and don't care for Peach's Castle, so I think I'm just a fan of verticality

>> No.5176559

>>5174284
why aren't yoshi's story, congo jungle, and peach's castle legal?

>> No.5176621

>>5175842
yeah it really just becomes a battle for the top with flashy acid. some sort of trigger functionality would be an improvement

>> No.5177349

>>5176559
- Blastzone on the right too far away from the screen, clouds induce camping
- Too dark, barrel prolongs games, too big
- Bumper, ledges aren't grabbable

>> No.5177384

>>5176118
i think people play Mario party 5 competitive

>> No.5177414

>>5176104
>try
they massively succeeded. I've always thought it was weird, but you can't say it hasn't worked.

>> No.5177604

>he doesn't gentlemen to Hyrule
>he doesn't have 19XX so he can play on Battlefield and FD

>> No.5177613

>>5177414
It's like being a professional hopscotch player. You might take it as seriously as you want but the rest of the world will never stop finding it stupid.

>> No.5177627

>>5177613
everyone sees "professional" gaming as a joke except in south korea i think. might as well go there if you want to be big.

>> No.5178212

>>5174284
All stages are legal if you aren't a fag.

>> No.5178801

>>5178212
This. I never understood tourneyfag logic. If you're really a pro then shouldn't you be able to deal with whatever a game throws at you? Isn't banning things that make the game even the slightest bit challenging kind of a casual babby thing to do? You're not playing the game, you're not really good at the game, you're good at your dumbed down version of the game. You think me and my besty ban anything in our matches or give a single crap about tiers? Hell no. I main Zelda and he mains Jigglypuff, both rock bottom tier characters, and we play with all items on max on all stages at random. We play on stages of our own creation full of all kinds of crazy obstacles and hazards. What do you think happens when we play For Glory? Princess and the Puff fucking mops the floor with everybody. We have never lost a match that I can recall, maybe one or two. Tiers are for queers and tourneyfags have autism.

>> No.5180315

>>5178801
I heard people ban stages and items because if not banned, they heavily favor one character over the rest.

>> No.5180323

I Like DCJ because of barrel shenanigans.

>> No.5180325

>>5178801
>If you're really a pro then shouldn't you be able to deal with whatever a game throws at you?
It's about cutting down on the randomness factor. Which is fine because Smash games tend to have an engine that's fun to knock each other around with without items.

>> No.5180334

>>5180315
You heard wrong, it's because of RNG (luck)

>> No.5180383

>>5174298
all of the stages are phenomenal in smash 64 except for mushroom kingdom.

>> No.5180384

>>5174298

saffron city is the best stage

>> No.5180434

>>5180334
so what you're saying is that smash players are a bunch of salty babies and will cry and moan if you constantly pull psychological warfare in a match?

>> No.5180523

>>5180434
Not at all, my reading comprehensioalyl challenged youngling. What he's saying is that luck has no place in competition. That's why IRL sports teams switch sides on field. The fact that you're ignorant of how fair play works in physical and video games disturbs me, frankly. I'd suggest you talk with your school councilor but it sounds like you're being home schooled in some crazy cult commune.

>> No.5180531

>Legal

Competitive fags shouldn't dictate how YOU play.

I swear, competitive fags are the worst thing that could've happened to Smash, thinking they can impose their rules and ruining everyone's fun.
Smash is a fucking kids toy and a party game and these fuckers take it as the most serious business in the world, creating cults around controllers and dissing everyone who plays anyone other than Fox or using items.

Yeah, competitive players make me mad.

>> No.5180535

>>5180523
>What he's saying is that luck has no place in competition.
how tragic then that it's literally always a factor! the field isn't the same after you change sides dumbass, the condition of the field itself is already changed by the act of having been played on. it's not about making things fair, it's about lowering the cognitive process of the competition to the level which doesn't make idiots buttmad about their losses, it's about removing the excuse to have an excuse for failure by whatever twisted logic is available.

>> No.5180721

>>5180535
Everything is always changing in some way, my young simpleton. The objective is to mitigate the effect of that as much as possible in competitive games. I'm amazed that you're clueless about this. Even if you were just a nerd you'd understand that this is a thing in competitive play with video games. You must literally sit in your your moms basement playing single player games that give no reward for success of failure. You're a sad pathetic fool.

>> No.5180734

>>5180721
there is nothing to the game other than winning it under the conditions by which it's programmed, to make a game within the game is to admit that you aren't capable of mastering the game in it's entirety

>> No.5180735

>>5180531
This, a million times this. This applies to other fighting games as well.
>eww you scrubs play as Bryan in Tekken 3, I read on the wikia that he is low tier
Who gives a fuck you nigger. Bryan is my main.

>> No.5180743

>>5180735
the only thing that matters is whether you win using the tools at your disposal by the conditions you yourself determine at the start, that is the essence of what a game is, it is not necessarily a contest but people end up taking it to heart anyway because they harbor ptsd or deeply embedded insecurities

>> No.5180746

>>5180721
wew, smashfags are truly autistic

>> No.5180748

>>5180746
you can almost hear the tipping as you read it

>> No.5180980

>>5178801
>If you're really a pro then shouldn't you be able to deal with whatever a game throws at you?

The point of a competition is to determine who is the best player. Elements with heavy RNG aspects take away from this, because matches become more about who lucked out with certain item drops or hazard placements. Other stages are banned because they overly centralize the game in an anti-competitive manner. For instance, in Melee stages with side walls are typically banned AFAIK because of how easy it is for Fox to do infinite shine combos knocking someone against the wall over and over again. Nobody wants a metagame where it's nothing but Fox shining people to 999% against a wall the entire match.

>> No.5181081

>>5174284
>games are not fun unless you play them competitively
okay, we get it. you HAVE autism

>> No.5181107

>>5180523
>luck has no place in competition
Ever heard of the World Series of Poker?

>> No.5181306
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>>5176027

>> No.5181826

>>5180734
As someone who's never played competitive games, sports or video, you're clearly incapable of comprehending it. What's really scary is it seems you're not the only one ITT with this problem.

>> No.5181929

>>5181826
or maybe you just only recognize baby games instead of competitions between actual adults

>> No.5181930

>>5180980
So then both players pick fox. and players who don't avoid the wall the entire match. what exactly is the problem?

>> No.5181962

>>5181107
If you actually played poker, you'd know that what you draw is the least important part of winning

>> No.5181969

>>5181962
If you're suggesting that playing your opponent is what actually matters then how does that not apply to bullshit and mind games in smash? So then I return to my earlier point that smash players are just being salty babies who can't deal with getting played in a match so they make absurd rules to shut down people who will bitch and moan compulsively and make excuses about their failure, rather than to maintain fair competition it's just to get out in front of the bad sportsmanship of the loser who inevitably can't handle the full content of the gameplay and incorporate all such eventualities into their tactical maneuvering and mind games.

>> No.5182118

>>5181929
A whole lot of projecting there kiddo. I played full contact sports well into my 40s. Clearly you're just butt hurt because no one wants to play video games with you.

>> No.5182134

>>5181930
It's not fun to play or watch

Balance/ban decisions are made to promote the most competitive viability while retaining the most enjoyable spectator and player experience possible. Watching a competitive match where both players camp a walk off the entire game, or one player with a faster character using certain stage assets to run away and force timeouts, or encouraging the use of a single character isn't very enjoyable, nor is it fun to play

I hate when people who have no understanding of the topic at hand talk and act like they have any sort of superiority

>> No.5182159

>>5174779
Are Smash Tournyfags not aware of what a joke they are?
They never seem to display any self-awareness at all.

>> No.5182163

>>5174779
>wanting fairplay out of a game clearly not built for tourny bullshit
imagine being this bad at real fighting games

>> No.5182165

>>5182134
It clearly IS fun to play since your delusional subset is such a minority yet the game still sell well.

>> No.5182170

>>5182165
In a competitive environment, dingdong. And clearly people like playing with the competitive ruleset otherwise it wouldn't be one of the most viewed and highly attended game franchises at major fighting game tournaments.

You're free to not like it, but don't go around acting smug, decrying the game when you have no understanding of it

>> No.5182175

>>5182170
Seems like taking out most of the content is decrying the game too, yet you faggots act like that's a testament to how viable it is as a competitive game.
It's a spastic party game but since you all suck at real fighting games you pretend you've clued into some secret game-within-a-game when its just a bunch of disgusting sub-neckbeard mouth breathers playing pretend.

>> No.5182182

>>5182175
>Goldeneye is a viable tourny fighting game if you only use karate chops and play on the smallest map.
lol these people

>> No.5182203

>>5174284
>party game
>legal stage
???????

>> No.5182205

>>5182175
>Seems like taking out most of the content is decrying the game too

If the game didn't want players "removing content", then why would it have item toggles, stage toggles for the random option, game modes, stock and time options etc?

>> No.5182223

>>5182205
because its a party game and you're meant to fuck around with settings.
The fact that you see options like that and immediately think that turning everything OFF was the intended way to play illustrates your ilk's complete detachment from reality.

Being a Smashfag is a mental illness. you're probably trans too aren't you?

>> No.5182228

>>5182223
that's a lot of bait in one post, wew lad

>> No.5182234

>>5182228
Bait? More like Mate, as in checkmate. Looks like I win and this wasn't even on Final Destination, no luck needed.

>> No.5182310

>>5178801
now THIS is trve autism

>> No.5182318

>>5174284
what about the wind from when the tree blows at you? that can create unfair circumstances.

>> No.5182457

>>5182134
on the contrary, watching one player slowly coerce the other into a complete meltdown is the best entertainment the game can offer

>> No.5182462

>>5182163
>>wanting fairplay out of a game clearly not built for tourny bullshit
>imagine being this bad at real fighting games
I'm almost certain I've read somewhere that it was specifically intentionally designed to subvert that purpose so that people of varying skill levels could just play it and not become completely obsessed and ridiculous about it.

>> No.5182643

>>5182182
Is it bad that I think that would a fun tournament to watch?

>> No.5182697

>>5174298
Best: Congo Jungle or Sector Z
Worst: Peach’s Castle

>> No.5183719

>>5182203
>>5182223
>party game
I bet you goofs think medical use of weed is wrong because you smoke it at parties. jk. We all know no one invites you to parties.

>> No.5183768

The floor in Congo Jungle is fucked and I hate it.
I don't know what y'all are on about.

>> No.5183936

>>5183719
>Dood weed lol
Low effort.

>> No.5184089

>>5178801
>2 life For Fun
>Gust Bellows drop
>fight is already over

what fun

>> No.5184132
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the only way to play

>> No.5184136

wen I was a yungin my two brothers and I would play on hyrule castle as yoshi. we would all stay in our eggs until our shields broke. somehow this was mad fun and watching yoshi helpless and disoriented after 'hatching' is a perfect example of sakurais vision.

>> No.5184178

>>5184136
Sakurai and Kojima both want to quit or make different games but are actually enslaved by their overly ambitious mortgages

isn't that hilarious

>> No.5184183

>>5184132
>That D-pad
I can't play Killer Instinct Gold with that thing!