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I haven't seen a Diablo thread in a while so why not. I've still never finished D2 but I'm currently playing it (solo assassin).
>favorite class?
>favorite game in the series (1, 2 Vanilla, Expansion)?
>cool items you've found?

>> No.5167431

>>5167348
Started playing again yesterday.

I only installed classic, and I feel like the map generation is more diverse, and the loot toned down a little, more meaningful.

Playing as a skeleton necromancer, its fun to see your skeletons running stuff down.

>> No.5168087

>>5167431
I tried playing a skeleton necromancer but it just felt like too much of a passive gameplay experience for me. Maybe I'm just not into pet classes. And yeah, I should consider running through vanilla D2 at some point, even if it's just out of curiosity.

>> No.5168103

>>5168087
I've met a green fallen shaman unique that teleported around. I didn't even know this existed.

>> No.5168747
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>tfw can't decide if I should slam my Surs into Bers and make Infinity, or make Enigma + CoH
>tfw found random Jah while testing a build in the pits
>tfw nobody likes Diablo
>tfw thread is dead
>tfw nobody to reply to this post
>tfw aussieb died before finding a HoZ
>tfw /v/net never again

>> No.5168808

I used to love building assasins and paladin characters. Right now Im changing a bit and doing an amazon just for fun, so far Im at act II.

>> No.5168935

>>5168747
But don't you have phone xD

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>>5167348
I just started playing this. I beat the classic game and the LoD expansion game. Classic is so much better. The game gets ridiculous with all the stuff the expansion adds. You get so strong that it takes all the challenge out of the game. you are not playing diablo anymore. All there is left is grinding to make the game even easier. I wasn't into that

>> No.5168968

>>5168963
>Loot games
>challenging
I had multiple 85+ in the EU HC ladder. There's nothing "challenging" about grinding gear and pumping vit/res until you're good to move to the next area.

>> No.5169008

>>5168963
Fucking casual.

>> No.5169254

The only issue with LoD are the charms. They are modtier content and kinda break the game by bridging two areas of the gameplay, inventory management and equipment.

>> No.5169275

>>5169254
Good thing that is fixed with plugy.

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>>5167431
Skeletons do not do viable damage in hell classic like they do in LoD. Another thing that annoyed the hell out of me is that the skeletons poof when you move between acts in classic. But d2's nec is still OG


>>5168963
On the one hand, classic's item system is comfy, because rares are the best items and they are very random.

On the other hand, LoD is patched to make lots of random areas in all acts lvl 81-85. The overpowered stuff takes hundreds of hours to assemble unless you trade on jsp or cheat. By comparison classic just has the CS.

>> No.5170874

>>5170498
>wasted all these runes just to make one Sur
>instead of doing a few hundred NM LK runs

Shame on you.

>> No.5171340

>>5168963
>You get so strong that it takes all the challenge out of the game. you are not playing diablo anymore
What? LoD is way, way harder than classic. All the enemy damage, life, density and many other buffs were given to enemies. The only way you will be stronger is if you have been grinding for hundreds of hours, and by that point challenge is no longer relevant, whether you are playing classic or LoD.

>> No.5171426

What solo class is the most fun? This trap assassin just isn't working out for me, especially regarding large ranged mobs.

>> No.5171471

>>5171426
Define "fun" because they all cater to some niche. I don't know what's your thing, dude - maybe you want to hulk out as a barbarian, maybe you want to zip around as a sorceress.
Try out these loose guidelines:
>be a huge motherfucking melee tank with relatively low dependence on finding a good weapon
2handed Berserker Barbarian. The reason you don't die is because you synergize with Howl, Taunt (which can be used to stop archers from shooting and just walk to you) and you also want some War Cry. If you find something good like a Cruel rare Polearm or a good unique, you can go WW. Single-target only, but good at crushing bosses. Frenzy is also good but I'd reroll those magic weapons with chippies like a motherfucker, since you need two good weapons on solid Elite bases to succeed in Hell (it's a total massacre all the way thru Nightmare though).
>kill things fast in melee, relatively low gear dependence
Teslazealot kills shit really fast and you can make him erase things with a Cracked Kris in Nightmare, all you need is attack speed. It's kinda like a melee caster in that regard. Highly resistant to Lightning, so you don't fear Gloams so much. Use Smite and Conversion for crowd control. Crushes bosses fast, just swap to a CB setup and Smite them until death.
>self-reliant ranged DPS with really beefy summons
Amazon with a couple hard points into Decoy and/or Valk. Pure Java is a screenclearer; pure bowa too, but needs a good bow (smooth levelling with an Explosive Arrow build, but drink a lot of mana). Hybrids (LF/Strafe or LF/FA) are good too. Between Decoy/Valk/maybe FA, you're really safe even as a Bowa that goes Dex>Vita.
>I will take time to farm a ribcracker
Werewolf Druid. Shits on everything with this unassuming Exceptional Staff. Has nice lifesteal and also a good summon entourage.
>I won't take time to farm a ribcracker
Windy Druid, then. Level as Fire, though, it mows down Normal fast.

>> No.5171482

>>5171426
cont.
>This is my first-time HC character
Go Necromancer. Both Boners and Skelemancers are really fast, safe and self-reliant. Curses are your answer to all your problems - ranged packs get Dim Vision, everything else gets Amplify Damage. Whatever build you go, you will go Corpse Explosion as well - it clears entire screens. A bit more of a slog on /players 8, but powerful and self-reliant nonetheless. With either Bone Wall spam or a Skeleton entourage, you have a hard time dying.
>I want to farm act bosses and be highly mobile
Sorceresses in all flavors are good and rather skill-intensive when they have to find their own sources of FCR and mana, since you have to think on your own feet and on your own teleport and not hide behind a tank, even if you *can* freeze entire screens. Frozen Orb is a good core skill to use because it just works really well with little to no synergy, but it's not the only one. Blizzard, Fireball, Meteor, Chain Lightning or even Firewall are all skills you can focus on. Just go dual-element unless you're fine with skipping all immune packs.

>> No.5171507

HAM
MER
DIN

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>>5168747
>tfw /v/net never again

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>>5167348
Does diablo 2 get better after act II?

Its alright but i thought this was the game that created hundreds of clones.

I like the atmosphere. But idk im playing a paladin and it just feels lacking.

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>>5167348
normally go amazon or necro, but started playing an elemental drood today and I'm having a blast, I've played every class now. Skele necro with a few points in curses is still my fave though.

>> No.5172178

>>5171823
If you don't like act 2 atmosphere, you will not like act 3.

Act 4 and 5 feel like a totally different game tho

>> No.5172284

>>5168087
Can't do end game with necro summoner

>> No.5172415

>>5172284
Yes, you can. Moreover, it's literally considered the safest build to do endgame with.

>> No.5172416

>>5172415
Even Ubers can be done by a Necro summoner. Get a fuckton of Urdars for massive crushing blow and you can do it on budget gear if you have an item with teleport charges.

>> No.5172449

median xl 2017 team here

>> No.5172549

>>5172449
RELEASE SIGMA ALREADY YOU LAZY FUCKS

>> No.5172998

>>5172178
I don't think anyone likes act 2 and 3. They're just there I guess.

>> No.5173163

>>5171823
Act II was meh.
Act III sucks dick.
It gets better at IV and V.

>> No.5173472

>>5173163
Act 3 is the best act.

>clever enemy design, punishes stupid play and spammers
>crazy, unpredictable map generation that can make it almost as short as act 4 or by far the longest act depending on your luck
>has three of the best farming spots in the game
>highly unique level design, not like any other act
>two permanent boost quests

>> No.5173504

>>5167348
I really liked my ICE ORB Sorceress. Teleporting around the map, (w/ map hack on} blasting and looting scores of monsters. Soloing BAAL. Wash, Rinse Repeat...Profit.

>> No.5174507 [SPOILER] 
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J U S T

>> No.5174512

>>5173163
Alright thanks

>> No.5174683

>>5174507
>anon spends a whole month grinding these runes in NM LK
>this happens

>> No.5174749

>>5174507
>being an Insightard
Deserved it. Insight is an unethical runeword.

>> No.5174789 [SPOILER] 
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Bet you niggas can't handle my perfect roll.

*dabs*

>> No.5174805

Which builds/chars can solo hell? I'm thinking about playing this game again and beating it through hell since I've never done it

>> No.5174806

>>5174805
also best mf builds since I'll be using plugin

>> No.5174816

>>5174805
>>5174806
All of them can solo hell. What do you mean exactly? Best mf build is a blizz sorc, for a starter one at least. After that all sorcs are good with gear, javazons are good, zerkers are good, hammerdins, poison necros.

If you just wanna beat the game play anything you want. If you wanna play seriously you gotta start with a sorc pretty much, and don't listen to the hipsters saying otherwise, you'll end up wasting your time and having less fun. Also I hope you meant plugy.

>> No.5174830

>>5174816
Yes I did mean plugy my bad, but the deepest I ever got was act 3 with a meterorb sorc before it became to tedious for me. Not that I'm looking to breeze through hell, but when I say "best" I mean one that can get through it with decent gear and good crowd control, especially with all the immunities and bonuses in hell.

>> No.5174836

>>5174830
Sorc, and you can respec with plugy whenever you want to. If you really want to just beat the game then paladin is easier.

>> No.5174843

>>5174836
I know I can but I'd rather not do that, the only reason I like plugy is to keep gear. Otherwise it's like I'm not playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

>> No.5174847

>>5174843
Well if you know so much about the game, then just do what you want mayne.

>> No.5174972

>>5174830
>but when I say "best" I mean one that can get through it with decent gear and good crowd control
Every character has amazing crowd control, and every character can easily slaughter hell with decent gear. Hell isn't bad even with complete shit gear if you know how to use your skills properly.

>> No.5175079

>>5171426
assassin is the most fun solo for me but trapsin is not. do a martial arts sin. it's difficult because they're very fragile, especially untwinked/SP, but they're a ton of fun. Tiger strike is a fucking amazing one point wonder (or you can even max it out if you really want to), and then you can pick cold/lightning and you've got a fucking damage dealer.

>> No.5175082

>>5172998
i used to dislike 2 and 3 a lot but now i think they're pleb filters

>> No.5175180

i loved the summonmancer. no stress and very productive.

>> No.5175297

Anyone here ever get a 200% FCR on D2? Is it worth having it that high?

>> No.5175452

>>5175297
Theres a max breakpoint somewhere around there that isn't worth going above but I dont remember

>> No.5175454

>>5171823
Game gets worse with every new act

>> No.5175464

>>5175452
That is the max breakpoint for FCR for sorc

>> No.5175474

>>5174789
I guess they never miss, huh?

>> No.5175478

>>5174805
All of these are good for starters.
>>5171471
>>5171482

>> No.5175491

>>5175079
D.Tail is really fun. Since it makes a fire damage explosion based on your physical damage all you need is decent boots and maxed Tiger Strike and maybe an Amp curse and you have a 15k fire explosion easily.

>> No.5175506

I actually really enjoyed poisonmancer once I got to act 3 and poison nova got off the ground

>> No.5175603

>>5175297
>>5175452
>>5175464
Also since I'm doing a two element sorc, if I'm going to have a high FCR what should be my two main spells? I was thinking FireBall and Orb, but should I maybe do lightning and Orb instead? Or just stick with FB and Orb and throw in Meteor?

>> No.5175606

>>5175603
>but should I maybe do lightning and Orb instead? Or just stick with FB and Orb and throw in Meteor?
Honestly both are good and don't fret over it so much. FO/FB is more mainstream and I suppose has better base damage.

>> No.5175609

>>5175606
I guess I'm wondering which benefits more from having a really high FCR, since I'd want to kill shit as fast as possible

>> No.5175824

Anyone here like the Hell Unleashed or Aftermath mods? Me and some friends would play the crap out of Aftermath back in the day. Wolf/Bear melee Druid with Hazel Seer was my fave

>> No.5176003

>>5175082
Well, yeah this is true, but if you've played the game as much as I have, these days chances are you'll hate 2 and 3. Most people I've seen are like that, just fed up with these acts. They're just tedious for me, whereas 1, 4, and 5 are still fun for me somehow.

>>5175297
Yes it is worth, at least for LK running on your sorc. I run 200% FCR for that, and there's also a really expensive 200% FCR lightning build for super fast clear speed, that I haven't tried, but I'm sure it's worth using for something.

>>5175603
>>5175609
My nigga, look at the brakepoints in this link, try them, and decide for yourself, since lighting/cl have different ones than the rest of the sorc spells.

https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Breakpoints#Faster_Cast_Rate

Generally the vast majority go for 105 for normal spells, and 117 for lighting/cl, and this means only those two skills, not all lighting skills. You should only be running less if you're just starting and on a budget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSLc51KKtTo

Also, our boy released a new video, and someone asked exactly for this earlier.

>> No.5176798

>>5175824
They are really fun solo, requires serious amounts of dedication to get past the bosses without allies. Only time I played a multiplayer mod multiplayer was Aftermath as a fist of heavens pally with a rabies druid buddy.

>> No.5177717

>>5167348
I keep trying to come back. but my d2 expiriences never end up feeling satisfying so i just leave it halfway.
Half the times i play with my cousing, who being a NEET has a lot of free time for himself. So when we don't play for like 2-3 days he just decides to power level/grind items and ends up becoming elder god tier.
Then when i play solo i just get up to end of act 2 if anything. Probably because i tend to play really passive classes/specs

>> No.5177870

>>5177717
Nobody asked.

>> No.5178732
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Having never previously played Diablo games, I've recently finished D1, and now about to play D2. Should I play start with vanilla and then try LoD, or should I go with the expansion right away? Does it make a difference for a normal playthrough?

>> No.5178818

>>5178732
Classic and LoD are very different, as are unpatched classic and classic, as well as version 1.08 LoD, 1.09 LoD and 1.10+ LoD.
Classic is a bit difficult

>unpatched classic
Janky and straightforward. Grinding is unnecessary and you can pretty much do anything and still win on the hardest difficulty. Enemies do not have immunities ever.
>patched classic
Magics and rares are king. Takes a bit of forethought to beat, since immunities now exist and overall enemies are a bit stronger.
>1.09 LoD
The stupidest version of the game by far. Any enemy that spawns with the lightning enchanted property will one hit kill you and enemies in general are stronger than they were in classic. Much harder than classic overall.
>1.10+ LoD
The "standardized" version of the game. Added in synergies which prevents redundant characters by encouraging specialization, made all the monsters way, way stronger; this is many times over harder than 1.09. This version assumes you have played one of the previous version. Requires a lot of grinding or a decent understanding of game mechanics to beat. Despite the much increased difficulty, it is the most polished and complete version.

>> No.5178849

>>5178732
LoD has a lot of quality of life improvements. The only reason I would play Classic is if I wanted to play an older patch of the game that would let me take advantage of the higher drop rate for things and stronger skills.
LoD has some great changes though like being able to give hireable mercenaries items to equip.

>> No.5178992

Is there a game prior to D2 with skill trees, or is Diablo 2 the pioneer of them? I've been looking for more retro with similar character building.

>> No.5179031

>>5167348
Do people use mods? Plan to replay D2+LOD, should I just stick with unmodded or is there something interesting?

>> No.5179050

>>5178849
I'd like to note that some classes feel like absolute ass to play in D2 Classic simply because it's much harder to get a good weapon
Bowazons in LoD are fun to play and really safe (between Frozen Arrow, ranged weaponry and two extremely beefy tanks), even if they require some patience because they're by far the most underpowered in terms of sheer damage output (without some gear; I'm talking about a Blade Bow Harmony bowie or an upped Witchwild String build, not someone packing Faith or Windforce).
Bowazons in Classic are like trying to fuck a cactus.

>> No.5179106

>>5178732
You should play LoD, and with plugy.

>> No.5179108

>>5179031
Plugy and you can mod it yourself if you want too.

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>>5170874

>i cubed infinity
>you have an infinity's worth of trash runes that have been sitting in the stash for years
>you even have a handicap because plugy removes the gems from the cube recipes

Anon we each have our styles of play. We should make allowances for diversity of ideas. It's not healthy to be close minded, ethnocentric. Why are you such a fucking racist anon?

>> No.5179141

>>5179134
yikes

>> No.5179432

always wanted to make a psn dagger build but there just never seems a reason to use it over nova or explosion once they are all leveled up

>> No.5179750

>>5179432
You need Treachery and poison skill damage for poison dagger to be good.

>> No.5180015

>>5167348
So, me and my girl are planning to play through diablo 2 again, but I'm pretty bored of vanilla. Median XL is shit, but what other D2 mods are there?

>> No.5181451

Does plugy not work with the direct play version of 1.13c from buccaneer bay? I install it and certain things work (start in a window, for instance) but none of the game play features function. I did check the ini.

>> No.5181456

>>5181451
>the direct play version of 1.13c from buccaneer bay

I have no idea about this version and this website, but you can use plugy with a pirated version. Maybe you did something wrong, or maybe it's the crack itself, or a previous install interfering. Check a guide on youtube and try a fresh install, and maybe delete registry entries for D2.

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Bitchass niggas check me out.

>> No.5181745

anyone wanna play diablo 1 using that tchernobog thing? ill settle for some median xl but i want to play immersively and do all the quests and the like

>> No.5181790

>>5181745
I don't want to leave you hanging, since nobody will offer, but I don't want to play either of these. Sorry.

>> No.5181792

>>5181790
what about vanilla lod?

>> No.5181796

>>5181482
Too bad Cham is trash. Pretty much the most worthless rune in the entire game.

>> No.5181797

>>5181792
Can't, because I'm invested in my plugy mod, and I don't want to start again.

>> No.5181802

>>5181797
its alright anon, i wouldn't have really played vanilla anyhow

>> No.5181803

>>5181796
True, I wish I had gotten a ber instead. I really need one. But I'm getting the grail, and I also want to make BOTD, so I have half a zod now.

>> No.5181897

>>5180015
path of diablo if you like path of exile

>> No.5181903

>>5167348
coolest item in diablo two is a rare, ethereal crystal sword with cruel, knights affixes + anything else

>> No.5181915

>>5181897
Path of Diablo is nothing like Path of Exile. Path of Diablo is just Diablo 2 with some added uberquests and a few very poorly balanced skills.

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They don't make levels like this anymore

>> No.5182986

>>5179134
>you even have a handicap because plugy removes the gems from the cube recipes
false, i tried to transmute 3 thuls alone and i couldn't, you act as if having plugy totally means that's a default, when it's entirely optional and it's disabled by default

>> No.5183014

I've played D2 for years but only recently got into D1 and I've been wondering, is there anything else to the combat system than to click as fast as I can?
I mean, does it have some timing aspect to it? If I let my guy attack until the end of the animation does it have any benefit over clicking as much as possible? It seems like mashing really fast doesn't play the animation until the end but miss chances make it difficult to figure on my own.

>> No.5183020

>>5182852
Interesting take on randomly generated content. Using the word "make".

>> No.5183050

>>5183020
Diablo 2 didn't have a creator, it was evolution.

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>>5183020
Today I learned procedurally generated levels were not made. Have a Ghostly Ghost.

>> No.5183547

Playing single player with PluGY. It’s pretty dope. Almost level 60 in NM farming Andy and Meph for decent drops (occy from meph pls).

I’m using leaf and using meteor. I’m curious when I should switch to blizzard? After Occy?

Also, single player already has felt a lot more rewarding. My friends don’t play anymore, so there is no reason for bnet.

>> No.5184002

>>5183014
>I've played D2 for years but only recently got into D1 and I've been wondering, is there anything else to the combat system than to click as fast as I can?
Not really. The entire meat of the combat is to get into good positioning and you might get some abilities on your weapons or other items, like a Knockback on a bow, that will affect the battlefield. Also spells, which anyone can use. There are a few tricks you can use, like swinging at an empty square that an enemy is about to walk into may cause the enemy to stagger back into his original square which is an useful tactic to minimize damage against certain opponents. Aside from that, most of the difficulty is dealing with ranged characters and avoiding getting mobbed.

>> No.5184023

>>5184002
That's what I've been doing. Just got to hell, was a nice surprise to get a new sprite for my character with the higher level armors.
I wish the genre had improved on the positioning and added more nuance to the minor aspects of the combat instead of full spam

>> No.5184294

>>5182986
Does plugy have an option for disabling the need for gems for cubing runes? I don't recall seeing that anywhere... Or has that been added in some newer version?

>> No.5184357

Any good single player mods? Something that makes the levels not so boring and huge to run around

>> No.5184762

Are there any mods for D2 that reduce the absurd reliance on potion spamming? I understand that until PoE it was a big part of the genre but I never liked it.

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>>5167348
Never understood the love for D2 I finished D2 and D1 and D1 is by far the superior game in atmosphere.

D1 a town in darkness and haunted by evil that quite literally has hell under itself opening.
The ending is basically a evil ending where diablo wins and makes you his slave the end.

D2 colorful world tour, smash monsters in Europe, smash monsters in desert, smash monsters in mountains, smash monsters in the jungle whats this Diablo is dead? Oh here go after his brother. Congratulations you win.

What are some memorable personalities from D2...
Name like 3 outside of Cane.

>> No.5184847

>>5181897
PoD is trash, stop shilling.

>>5184294
It doesn't have it, the retard just doesn't know shit about D2. You mod it in yourself.

>>5183547
You should switch to blizzard when you get a base to make a spirit sword. You can pair it up with rhyme or pledge while you're searching for a monarch to make a spirit shield.

And in my opinion it's a waste of time to farm NM, except to target a SoJ from Andy. It's highly unlikely that you'll get an occy especially fast enough to make it worth it. You're missing out on easy exp and drops.

>>5184762
Plugy and mod it in a way that makes mana a non issue. There's many ways.

>> No.5184849

>>5184767
You're right, but gameplay wise D2 is way better, and it's a video game after all. I really can't stick to playing D1 for a long time.

Charsi, Akara, my boy Warriv.

>> No.5184852 [DELETED] 

>>5184849
The thing I liked about D1 was there are no class if you have the stats to get a spell you can get it.

I always loved my warrior and building a town portal spell on him. Or other spells.

>> No.5184854

>>5184849
The thing I liked about D1 was there are no classes if you have the stats to get a spell you can get it.

I always loved my warrior and building a town portal spell on him. Or other spells.

>> No.5184858

>>5184854
>tfw never played D1

I want to die.

>> No.5184871

>>5184858
>>tfw never played D1
What is preventing you from playing it now for the first time?

>> No.5184879

>>5184762
Insight merc.

>> No.5184880

>>5184871
Too invested in D2, and I'm a wageslave now, so I have less time. I always keep telling myself I'll play it soon, but I never do.

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>tfw finally a 2/20 coronet

my boy pindle hella based

>> No.5185026

>>5180015
Eastern Sun is a pretty neat mod.Best to use D2SE for it however given it was made for 1.10.

>> No.5185062

>>5184880
It takes like 15 hours to get to diablo

>> No.5185097

>>5185062
More like 5 hours. Diablo is a very short game.

>> No.5186067

>>5184871
Give D1 a try my best memory are after reading this quest.
I think I got lucky because when this dialog was playing I got the screaming children music of D1 in the background.
https://youtu.be/9xF1Omvm30s?t=17
USE the time code to get the song
https://youtu.be/gXUcwprvldc?list=RDgXUcwprvldc

>> No.5186070

>>5186067
Screaming children song.
https://youtu.be/gXUcwprvldc?t=904

>> No.5186164
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>>5184886
Noice.

>> No.5186404

Hell Mephisto is being so stingy.

3 bartucs
2 arreats face
3 jalals mane

No Occy ;-;

>> No.5186405

I demand an update on assuieb's health and grail status. Did he get his Hoz? Tell me now.

>> No.5186406

>>5186404
Just make spirit or hoto my dude.

>> No.5186684

So I found this site from our boy dbrunski

https://d2-holy-grail.herokuapp.com/bigdickhaver

It's an only holy grail list thing. Post yours, rate others. How's mine?

>> No.5186695

>>5186406
I have a spirit sword, but I’d rather have occy.

>> No.5186702

>>5186695
I thought you were the dude still using leaf. RNG can be fucked. Here's my grail >>5186684
and I've only found one occy.

>> No.5186754

>>5186702
oh im the same dude. im off of the leaf for sure

>> No.5186778

I remember playing D1 on PSX with my brother. I never finished it on PSX, and we usually just past time by duplicating items by copying memories and trading.

A couple of years ago i tried playing it on PC, and i finishes solo in a couple of hours by farming a couple of lowers levels.

This got me thinking. It's posible to win D1 without creating new worlds? In the first difficulty at least. I don't remember seeing this option on PSX (Might be wrong, i was very young back then). Might try to emulate later.

>> No.5186780

>>5186754
>im off of the leaf for sure

heh

>> No.5186817

How do you guys think about the possibility that you've maybe missed a Ber rune because it dropped off screen?

>> No.5186930

Can you do the -act5 cheat with the plugy mod?

>> No.5187289

>>5186930
Yes.

>> No.5187834
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5187834

Aww dudes.
I was inspired by this thread to once more finish D1 and after this play hellfire for the first time (I never played hellfire so).

Dam is D1 good.
I don't know if its game mechanics or be doing stupid leveling or some glitches however D1 was brutal and bosses felt brutal like real bosses.
Strap yourself back for story time.

1) Start game with warrior is going easy, decide to also level spell capacity and cast spells.
2) Everything is fine
3) Find books, level in magic and eat the books to get spells.
4) Still smash things however now I can spam lightning all over the place to catch monsters who run away or archers in the distance.
5) Monkey cats try to gang fuck me. Spam lightning at them they die quicker then from me trying to kill them with the sword. Did I level wrongly or is magic the perfect solution for the monkey cats?
6) Go on. Find the butchers layer. I think I'm ready to face him. Save before him just in case.
7)Nightmarish fight the fucker is not dropping dead and I'm eating potions like crazy. Can not run away try to spam magic nothing kills him, no life bar for the boss so I have no idea how I'm doing. I die. Wow that was hard.
8) once more this time when I open the door I spam lightning into his home so he gets damaged before he can get to me.
Fight him by smashing him in the face all the time, use potions win.
9) Holy shit was this thrilling, he really felt like someone who was a boss.
10) Continue on adventure normally.

The next chapter is called hell bat of "WTF is this".

>> No.5187837
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5187837

>>5187834

11) Be adventuring and get into the catacombs, open passageway back to town.
12) Bats gargoyles are here and they are dropping dead I use lightning and sword to get them down.
13) Clear out rooms like nothing.
14) Get into a room there is a legendary red bat gargoyle there.
15) mostly ignores me there are other bat gargoyles so I kill them first.
16) Time to kill a legendary red bat gargoyle boy!
17) Start fighting him my character looks like he is glitched or the bat is staggering him and I can only land 10% of my attacks.
18) Spam lightning at the fucker.
19) sword to the face of the monster
20) Eat potions like there is no tomorrow.
21) WTF! This fucker is not dying!!!!!!
22) Town portal back to town.
Get more potions and repair equipment save game.
23) Back to bat
24) Same shit out of potions to town save and back.
25) Eat potions like there is no tomorrow, is this glitched?
26) Back to town same shit.
27) Bat manages to murder me reload to previous save. Realize my mother fucking armor vanished (I did not see warnings about it)... Did the fucker destroy my armor? Is this glitched? Is this his special ability or some shit???
28) Jokes on you I have extra armor in town.

>> No.5187840
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5187840

>>5187837
29) Get wall of fire staff. Lets see if you like magic spam you fucken bat!!!
30) Go back to fight. Create fire everywhere bat takes damage (makes pain sounds). Run out of stick magic. Back to sword to the face strategy.
31)Back to town routine.
32)Back to town routine.
33) Back to town routine. I'm running out of money, Sell magic stick and extra crap to get potions.
34)Back to fighting.
35)Back to town routine.
36)Back to town routine.
37) I'm seriously having problems here.
38)Fighting, no money left last potions. DIE you peace of shit!
39) Bat dies. Jesus Christ almighty! Was this glitched?
40) Lets check how I leveled up from... minimal XP. The fuck? I did all of this for nothing? All the gold and equipment lost for nothing?
41) Was I supposed to avoid this fucker? Come back after i leveled up on different dungeons?
42) Dang man this really feels like going into the pits of hell. Cant wait to play some more.

>> No.5187842
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5187842

>>5187840
Meanwhile this is how D3 was.
1) Start game.
2) Can not select anything else then ultra easy baby mode. Other modes are unlocked after other completions of the game.
3) Whatever take summoner hero class.
4) Play some. Monsters dropp dead like nothing.
5) Get summon golem spells and bouncing fire ball.
6) I practically press some buttons and my bouncing balls and golems annihilate everything of screen.
7) Playing games like on rails, more story and I feel like I'm watching a movie.
8) Nephilim bla bla bla .. something something Diablo is back.
9) Adria turns out to be evil and was a Diablo worshiper from the start (I liked this from a story perspective)
10) Diablos war on heaven more story
11) Bosses can not out-damage me!!!!!
12) Literally if I stand still and spam my fireballs and golems bosses who focus me ... A summoner can not out-damage me! While hitting me in the face! I have regeneration or life steal or some shit. i forgot what and bosses can not out-damage me! I can simply stand there and be hit in the face and they can not out-damage me! My life bar is not even twitching!!!!!
13) Lets go balls to the walls boys!
14) Remove armor from myself and remove all equipment. Enemies still can not even make my life bar move, even if they are hitting me in my face and ganging up on me!!!!!!1111ONEONEONEON
15) bosses can not out-damage me even after I removed all equipment from myself!!!!!!1111ONEONEONEELEVEN
16) Something about some dude in the desert, some human who believed humans are superior and was using his own blood to be immortal or some shit.
17) Whatever I don't feel like playing this game any more. Its a pointless waiting before I'm railroaded to my next in game movie.

>> No.5187847
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5187847

>>5187842

On the other hand I remember my first time fighting the butcher and how challenging he was my first D1 character was a archer and the butcher was so hard and I was so incapable of killing him that I literally made a warrior and started the game anew. I remember this to this day.

The monsters felt like they are demons who can rip you to peaces and you are a human trying to survive. You where a great hero however there where some super powerful demons.

What has D3? Literally ultra easy baby mode that you need to finish to get slightly more challenging modes. Where you literally can have no equipment and stand still and the bosses will not even make your life-bar move.

I'm no ultra hardcore fag however this is simply silly, you are unable to select more challenging difficult even if you selected a option and write a e-mail to bliz to give me all the difficulties.

I can not remember practically anything about D3 bosses however the hell bat and the butcher will be great stories for me to remember to this day and great fun to tell.

So what has D3? Play the same ultra easy game only this time its a little more challenging? The same story? Why? What made D1 great is its random quests so that you never see all the quests in one play of the game. And it was challenging unlike D3.

>> No.5187849

>>5187834
personally I love the warrior-sorc hybrid build and stacking high magic items to learn spells, if you're playing single player you can save the items in town on the floor and pick them up to learn higher level books. For warrior, leveling magic to 35 and using scroll of stone curse once or twice was the way I killed him my first time. If you armor is damaged it'll low on the bottom right, brown indicating it's fucked up, red meaning it's almost completely fucked, as a warrior you can repair it if you want, but the durability will always drain on it and it gets to the point it will 100% be destroyed. Hellfire implements some.. "fixes" for this through oils and other things. You don't need to beat diablo 1 to play the expansion btw. If you plan on playing through it again though feel free to wait until after you beat diablo 1 by its self. Gargoyles regen very fast when they drop into the stone form, or statue form, whatever you want to call it. IIRC they're super resistant to lightning but It's been a while for myself. reminder that hellfire is non canon and has nothing to do with the actual diablo storyline.

>> No.5187857

>>5187849
>personally I love the warrior-sorc hybrid build
Same here my man.
>you can save the items in town on the floor
I know its the joke that the town is your inventory.
> If you armor is damaged it'll low on the bottom right, brown indicating it's fucked up, red meaning it's almost completely fucked,
i know and I'm looking out for it. Only >>5187840
while fighting the legendary red WTF hell bat there was no warning simply when I opened the inventory my armor was not on my character.

I finished D1 back in the day and decided to go back.
>You don't need to beat diablo 1
I want a warm up in D1 to then see the differences in Hellfire.
>reminder that hellfire is non canon and has nothing to do with the actual diablo storyline.
Not a problem for me. Want to see the combat and what they have for me to fight.

>> No.5187863

>>5187857
ahhh my bad I thought this was your first play through
Hellfire is different, I like the tile-sets and maps although it isn't canon. IIRC Liches gave me a hell of a hard time as a warrior but that's for you to have fun with ;)
For me,
Diablo 1>2>3 but if i'm in the mood for a longer game, two before 1

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5187865

>>5187849
I like to interject the bat gargoyle is about the same size and shape like this. its not human sized it looks like you can punch it from the air.
https://youtu.be/zHA_OFYygyY?t=175

>> No.5187870

>>5187865
oh.. then a normal bat.. i'm not sure then. some of those unique mobs are ridiculously hard

>> No.5187873
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5187873

>>5187863
>Diablo 1>2>3
Same.
>ahhh my bad I thought this was your first play through
No problem.

Any stories you like to tell about it?
And what was up with this bat? Was it a glitch? Or some staggering mechanic? Or are legendary monsters really so hardcore?
>>5187870
Do I avoid it and come back later to kill it?
>>5187870
>oh.. then a normal bat.
Yea I'm saying that its a bat gargoyle(not gargoyle gargoyle) because it has hands and feet that attack me. Don't know what the canon name for these things is.

>> No.5187886

>>5171823
It created hundreds of clones for the multiplayer/running and rerunning culture. Singleplayer gameplay isn't what defined the genre.

>> No.5187889

>>5187873
legendary mobs early game can be a huge pain in the ass because your defenses are bad/hit rating is terrible, especially if you force magic early on as a warrior.
>Do I avoid it and come back later to kill it?
up to you, honestly, i avoided the butcher for like two extra levels because he would spank me

When i first played through diablo 1 I was about 6 or 7 years old and it scared the absolute hell out of me to progress past the church so for the longest time I farmed books and the legendary/unique bosses until I got over it. The goatmen in diablo gave me a hard time as a warrior because of the constant chasing and cornering. The game gave me so many nightmares as a kid but I kept coming back but I bonded with my father a lot while playing it when he got a second PC to play with me. Diablo was the start of my father and my bonding and I still game with him to this day. Who would have known

>> No.5187896

>Archbishop Lazarus has not one, but two literal semen demons

You know he nutted in them like a million times.

>> No.5187901
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5187901

>>5187889
Thanks for this story.
I played D1 as a teen so no nightmares for me.
Also I checked the thing I was fighting apparently is named.
Winged Fiend.
https://diablo.gamepedia.com/Winged_Fiend_(Diablo_I)

However I think winged gremlin is a better description of it. Only not a lot of people can know what a gremlin looks like.

>> No.5187903

>>5187896
Are you talking about the succubus?
They are a memorable enemy. I will always remember how they spam their magic orbs.

>> No.5187907

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVNFE7wpd7o
IMAGINE

>> No.5187908

>>5187903
Yes, namely the unique ones Blackjade and Red Vex who were with Lazarus. I bet they had so many orgies in that lair before the hero came in and ruined it all.

>> No.5187915

>>5187889
>The game gave me so many nightmares as a kid
I love for you to tell everyone about the exact nightmares you did have.

If you can remember them or write them down.

>> No.5187925

>>5187915
Everything was diablo related, but I can't recall most of my childhood anymore, good or bad unfortunately

>> No.5187927

>>5187925
Was it more about the normal monsters or the boss monsters?

>> No.5187928

>>5187834
>>5187837
>>5187840
>>5187842
>>5187847
Fuck wrong with you, retard?

>> No.5187930

>>5187928
>Fuck wrong with you, retard?
what did he mean by this?

>> No.5187931

>>5187927
it was more the atmosphere and story that got to me.

>>5187928
no bully fren pls

>> No.5187963

I’ve been playing D1 for the first time as a warrior, how the hell do I kill Diablo? I can’t get close enough to him without getting blasted by fire.

>> No.5187965

>>5187963
staff of nova is a super cheese way to do it.

>> No.5188020

>>5187963
Get a full belt (and backpack) of Healing Potions, lure him away from his minions, and simply duke it out until you run out of resources. He won't get his Apocalypse off too often once in melee.

>> No.5188185

>>5184847
How about you read the reply chain before calling me retard you mongolid piece of shit

>> No.5188187

What should I start the new ladder with? I don't feel like rolling a Sorceress. I'm thinking of making a budget Frenzy Barb and being everyone's BO/tank and then do Hell at my own pace.

>> No.5188193

>>5188020
>>5187963
>Get a full belt (and backpack)
This I remember leaving everything in my inventory behind (this includes all my gold) in town and having a inventory full of healing potions.

Also never fight a boss around other minions.

>> No.5188198

>>5188020
>>5187963
>>5188193
OH and I mean literally full. Like there was not even 1 spot of inventory that was not a healing potion. And all I did have was healing potions.

>> No.5188205

>>5188185
Stop replying to me, retard.

>> No.5188215 [DELETED] 

>>5186778
I replayed D1 on my PSP a few years ago, and I did Normal and jumped straight to Nightmare and beat both, without creating new worlds (because I was using the "Save Game" option instead of "Save Character"), so of course it is possible, it was a Rogue so it was easy to cheese some of the harder parts with a ranged character (and mostly because in my childhood I never played a Rogue extensively so I wanted to give her a try). And of course I jumped straight to Hell after beating Nightmare. I left the game at caves, probably level 10 or 11.

>> No.5188221

>>5186778
You can create new worlds on PSX version if you "Save Character" instead of "Save Game", but it's entirely possible to beat the game without creating new worlds.

I replayed D1 on my PSP a few years ago, and I did Normal and jumped straight to Nightmare and beat both, without creating new worlds (using the "Save Game" option instead of "Save Character"), always full clearing levels so I could get as much exp as possible. It was a Rogue so it was easy to cheese some of the harder parts with a ranged character (and mostly because in my childhood I never played a Rogue extensively so I wanted to give her a try). And of course I jumped straight to Hell after beating Nightmare. I left the game at caves, probably level 10 or 11.

>> No.5188223

>>5188205
What's the matter little baby, are you sad that your reddit spacing post replying to a ton of anons didn't get a reply you hoped to get? That's what you get for being a place where you don't belong, now go back from where you came from and never appear in these threads.

>> No.5188248

>>5188223
Stop projecting, newfaggot retard.

>> No.5188253

>>5188248
Keep crying your post didn't get any replies other than mine, delicious reddit tears.

>> No.5188258

>>5188253
Nobody's crying but you. Stop posting any time.

>> No.5188273

>>5188258
>>5188253
Both of you shut up.

>> No.5188276

>>5188273
You too.

>> No.5188301

>>5188258
>talk shit
>get hit
>LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU DON'T REPLY PLSSSS MY FEFEES
What a sad little person.

>> No.5188306

>>5188301
Who are you quoting?

>> No.5188592

>>5167348
I like 2 a bunch, but I find the first is still my favorite.
One of my favorite items would be the Dreamflange, which was the best weapon for as sorcerer in the original.

>> No.5188612

>>5188592
Can you share some video of those dream flange?

>> No.5188620

>>5171823
Act 1 and Act 2 is what I feel are the strongest parts of the game.
Try out the first game too.

>> No.5188627
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5188627

>>5188612
Just a pic.

It's a Mace, and it doesn't do any spectacular damage or anything, but it has excellent stat bonuses which are good for the sorcerer, who will at best avoid melee combat as much as possible.

>> No.5188640

>>5188612
>>5188627
The main reason Dreamflange rocks so hard is because Mana Shield, unlike Energy Shield in D2, directs all damage taken to Mana. And grants damage reduction on top of that. Dreamflange gives you +110 mana on its own. End-game geared Sorcerers easily reach over 1k mana. Warriors - maybe like 680 health in comparison.

>> No.5188670

>>5188640
Not just manashield, casting shit in general. It's just a great bonus overall.

>> No.5188729

>4 yellow and 2 blue laquered plates from pindle thus far

I really don't know what a nigga gotta do to get a set one.

>> No.5188862

>>5187963
Griswold's Edge.

>> No.5188876

>>5188729
I've been looking for Tal Rasha's forever.

>> No.5188896

>>5187289
I've been trying and can't quite seem to get it to work

>> No.5188919

>ctrl+f "remake", "remaster"
>0 results
Whellp.

With the coming rerelease of vanilla WoW, and a warcraft 3 remaster, I believe Blizzard will also do a Diablo 3 remaster, which I think has potential to be the diablo 3 we never got.

What would you folks think about a d3 remaster(namely just a 3d engine and/or a better coat of paint)?

>> No.5188925

>>5188919
D2 remaster**, not d3

>> No.5188964
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5188964

Made a fun amulet.

>> No.5189000

>>5188919
I just want the visuals to get cleaned up like the Brood War remaster and made scalable to higher resolutions. Maybe a couple things like walk over gold pickup and a spell bar too.

>> No.5189036

>>5187847
>butcher

My friend and I were in junior high and wanted to start a clan, with an entry "challenge" that you had to prove your worth by beating the butcher by leading him into a room and shooting him with a bow without being told to do so.

I felt so seekret game knowledge back then.

>> No.5189357

is there a point in diablo 1 that you have to start grinding better gear to progress? i felt it was very well paced but now im at level 9 and im getting owned a lot more

>> No.5189362

>>5188187
based
starting sorc is boring

>> No.5189376

>>5172998
Act 2 is great. Act 3 has some good stuff in it, but also some which feels extra tedious.

>> No.5189378

>>5189357
Shouldn't ever have to grind in normal play through. Some dungeon mobs are a super pain in the ass though. Try new gaming it

>> No.5189384

>>5184854
Classes still mattered for spells, Sorcerer had the fastest casting speed and could build his Magic attribute the highest, allowing him to easily learn the most powerful spells as well as use them the best.

>> No.5189403

>>5171426
>trap assassin
Sounds like my kind of girl.

>> No.5189417

>>5189403
based

>> No.5189423

>>5189403
>>5189417
Cringe.

>> No.5189583

>>5189403
>girl

>> No.5189603

fuck duriel

>> No.5189678

>>5188964
Anon I'm really sorry, but it's only halfway decent ;_;

>> No.5189808

>>5189678
I said fun not decent, shut the fuck up.

>> No.5189814

>>5189808
Fun? More like sad.

>> No.5189834

>>5189678
untwinked SP, which is the way to play, it's better than you'd expect to find in most runs. I'd love to craft that in one of my one pass full clears, although with a sorc those aren't too challenging to begin with

>> No.5189837

>>5189834
i take that back untwinked multiplayer is a lot more fun but how easy is it to find a friend who plays d2 in this day and age lel

>> No.5189852

>>5189834
The way to play is plugy, holy grail collection, and leveling every character to 99 and twinking them in the process with the sickest, most nastiest gear you can find.

>> No.5189858

>>5189852
i just find twinked runs really boring, it's no fun if you go from act 1 normal to instantly mowing everything down the whole game. i like single pass full clear because it's a way to play where you can actually still die and all, you have to be a lot more creative with what you find and stuff like crafting and gambling actually matter. to each his own though, man, i'd never shit on someone else for playing the way they find fun

>> No.5189862

>>5189858
I don't know how long you've played D2 for, but I've cleared the game on so many untwinked characters so many times, that I'm at the point where I wanna actually collect everything, and see what's the most OP set up I can do with the items I've found for the level range I'm at.

I might kill myself if I clear all difficulties untwinked one more time.

>> No.5189869

>>5189862
that's fair, i don't have the patience for grailing but i see the appeal, especially if you've played the game for a long time. how far along are you? or have you already completed it?

>> No.5189872

>>5189869
>have you already completed it

No way, I'm not even near. Some items are crazy rare.

https://d2-holy-grail.herokuapp.com/bigdickhaver

Here's my link of this website I found the other day. I thought I didn't have the patience too, but one day I just felt like it, and now I'm hooked. Doing 10 000 Pindle runs right now.

>> No.5189897

>>5189858
>it's no fun if you go from act 1 normal to instantly mowing everything down the whole game
mostly untwinked player here, I hate normal because it feels like a prelude to the actual game and there's hardly a challenge involved, you just swing your single-target attack until you unlock something good
thank god for respecs, i no longer have to bank all of my skill points on the road to level 24/30.

>> No.5189916

>>5189862
>I've cleared the game on so many untwinked characters so many times
how do you acquire a weapon in Hell if you're a physical character?

>> No.5189919

>>5189916
Runewords?

>> No.5189945

>>5189916
you can get through hell with a decent crafted weapon if you find the materials, or you can gamble, or use the cube to try to roll a decent rare, or you could hope to make a budget runeword. those are basically your options without a lucky unique drop.

>> No.5190032
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5190032

>>5173163
act III is the definition of pleb filter

>> No.5190050

Necromancer and druid specializing in summoning are pretty fun until you hit Diablo.

>> No.5190051

>>5188964
>>5189834
how do you craft an amulet like that? never seen that color font, is it a mod?

>> No.5190063

>>5190051
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/crafteditems.shtml

Google it, dummy.

>> No.5190078
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5190078

>>5182852

>> No.5190082

>>5190078
durance of hate is cool though, probably the best atmosphere of any d2 dungeon except maybe the tombs
>tfw you hear the pitter patter of the killer dolls

>> No.5190084

>>5184767
Charsi, Gheed, Akara, Ormus, Jamella, Tyrael, Nihlathak

>> No.5190217

I wish I'd get a 4os eth thresher and one Ber rune.

>> No.5190254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmPdJCLd_Z8

>> No.5190262

>>5190078
that level is always a left
you explored a bunch of directions it was highly unlikely to find the exit in

>> No.5190264

>>5190262
>that level is always a left

This isn't true.

>> No.5190271

>>5190254
Holy shit I was skeptical at first, but what the fuck is this? New engine, new interface? You could go that far with modding D2? How did they do it? So many questions. And it's a new thing, I thought it was just old Median XL.

Holy fuck this shit looks amazing, I hope it's not just the trailer being hype.

>> No.5190379

>doing Pindle runs
>want Griffons
>think about how I'm going to get a non unique Diadem and complain in this very thread
>literally as I'm finished thinking this exact thought the last fireball needed is flying towards him
>dies
>white diadem drops

Fucking insane.

>> No.5190387

>>5190379
>literal next run a rare laquered plate drops

Guys I'm fucking scared.

>> No.5190435

>>5190271
>new interface
Trivial to change. Diablo 2 flat out lets you edit the interface with softcoding.
>high resolution
The high resolution patch has been around for ages.
>bigger inventory
Babby's first mod. Changing a few values in a txt makes this happen.
>individual cooldowns
The code edit has been around for more than a decade. First time I remember seeing it was in the Ragnarok mod.
>map reveal
Very easy. This is already built into the game.
>new hotkeys
Been around for years, all the code edits required are already described, so all you have to do is copy and paste.
>notifications
Probably just took this from the Dreamlands mod tool.
>no death penalty
Change one column in difficulty.txt
>automatic pickups
Probably just taking the automatic gold pickup mod which has been around for years.

The nu-MXL guys are a bunch of hacks. They just amalgamate other people's work. All of the changes they made could be done by a completely new modder in a few days time.

>> No.5190443

>>5190435
I know about most of these, but them saying new engine got me wired up. Are they just sugar coating things up? I usually hate on mods, but that trailer looks sick I can't lie.

>> No.5190474

>>5190443
>Are they just sugar coating things up?
Not exactly. From a player's perspective, these are all significant changes that greatly change how the game works. From a modder's perspective, this is just copy and pasting other people's work. Calling it a "new engine" is complete bullshit though, making a few (already known and defined) changes in the game files is definitely not new and it only results in tiny, almost negligible changes in how the engine works.

>> No.5190482

>>5190474
I see, I actually modded my pluggy a good amount by reading guides on the phrozen keep, but got excited when I read "new engine". I thought they programmed that shit from scratch and just used D2 assets.

>> No.5190524

>>5190271
>I thought it was just old Median XL
not knowing the meme that is sigma
>>5190435
map reveal large inventory high res and autopick up have been a thing for years on MXL
sigma is a complete overhaul of the D2 engine the video doesn't show off shit its just to show off MXL to people who don't know about the mod

>> No.5190532

>>5190524
>sigma is a complete overhaul of the D2 engine

So it's legit and I'm allowed to be hyped?

>> No.5190554

>>5190532
kindaish this more like the open beta with sigma they will be able to add in a lot stuff so hopefully its just MXL but less clunky
http://forum.median-xl.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=519

if you've never played MXL give it try now on single player if you like it wait a month and hop on ladder

>> No.5190556

>>5190554
I think I'll just hop fresh on the ladder when it's out. Are they doing a 3 month ladders like a certain garbage mod, or?

>> No.5190632

>non eth superior 4os thresher drops

BITCHASS FAGGOT GAME FUCK OFF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5190635

>>5190632
>non eth giant thresher drops literally next run

This is some gayass bullshit.

>> No.5190723

>>5167348
How hard is it to do some coop Dialbo 1? Is there a tutorial or guide for a brainlet?

>> No.5190860

Is it fine to play bezelbub as a first playthrough for getting into the series? There's some annoying stuff like it not saving location on saves but other than that it seems manageable, stretched 4:3 full screen just looks awful on my monitor so I wanna use this mod, unless I'm missing something by not playing vanilla?

>> No.5191649
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5191649

What runeword should i use on a fendazon going into hell difficulty?

>> No.5191957

>>5171823
it did, and the clones are better now, at least for single player
D2LoD online is an experience that has been never replicated or truly improved upon, and once you've played it online you'll search for 20 years for a game that replicates the experience, and still not find one.

>> No.5191962

>>5184767
>What are some memorable personalities from D2...
tyrael > you

>> No.5191967

>>5185062
not even.

>> No.5191968

>>5187842
>(I liked this from a story perspective)
never post here again

>> No.5191989
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5191989

>>5190051
Use your cube.

>> No.5191991

>>5190435
On the one hand, you are absolutely right.
On the other hand, SEETHING

>> No.5192042

>>5191989
19 fcr is such a fucking cockblock. Why can't it be 20? Fucking faggot game man.

>> No.5192101

>>5190262
You do know that some people like to fullclear zones, right

>> No.5192104

>>5192101
>do you know that autism is real

Yes? Nobody said otherwise.

>> No.5192276

>>5191989
>>5192042
agree, but nice one tho !

>> No.5192281

>>5191649
what is a fendazon ?

>> No.5192463
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5192463

>two lacquered plates in a row from pindle
>neither is green

>> No.5192579

>>5192042
Not like it matters. An extra +1% FCR wouldn't hit the next breakpoint in that build.

>> No.5192815
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5192815

>tfw hadn't played Diablo II in over a year
>heard about Diablo Immortal
>fuck it... fired up D2 again
>have been playing every single day for the past few weeks

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

>> No.5192836

>>5168747
If it makes you feel any better
I still have never found a SoJ

>> No.5193242

>>5192281
FUN is what she is
that is if you can get your hands on +2/3slvl 5/6 socket zon spears

>> No.5193287

>>5192104
Stop trying to put words in my mouth you fucking retard, have you never tried a magic find build? You think skipping zones will get you items? What a fucking brainlet.

>> No.5193298

>>5192815
>they
the ones that made the game are gone, anon.

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5193965

>>5191968
>never post here again
Can you elaborate on this?
Adria turning out to be evil is a dark twist and I like it for it.
Also did you ever play D1?
She never felt like a good person and there was a certain darkness about her.

Also while playing D1 I noticed this:
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Adria_the_Witch
>The witch, Adria, is an anomaly here in Tristram. She arrived shortly after the Cathedral was desecrated while most everyone else was fleeing. She had a small hut constructed at the edge of town, seemingly overnight, and has access to many strange and arcane artifacts and tomes of knowledge that even I have never seen before.

>She arrived shortly after the Cathedral was desecrated while most everyone else was fleeing.
>She arrived shortly after the Cathedral was desecrated while most everyone else was fleeing.

>hut constructed at the edge of town, seemingly overnight
>hut constructed at the edge of town, seemingly overnight
>seemingly overnight
>seemingly overnight

>and has access to many strange and arcane artifacts and tomes of knowledge that even I have never seen before.
> knowledge that even I have never seen before.
> knowledge that even I have never seen before.

Makes you think if it was planned in D1 from the start.

>> No.5193970
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5193970

>>5191968
>never post here again
Can you elaborate on this?
Adria turning out to be evil is a dark twist and I like it for it.
Also did you ever play D1?
She never felt like a good person and there was a certain darkness about her.

Also while playing D1 I noticed this:
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Cain_the_Elder
>The witch, Adria, is an anomaly here in Tristram. She arrived shortly after the Cathedral was desecrated while most everyone else was fleeing. She had a small hut constructed at the edge of town, seemingly overnight, and has access to many strange and arcane artifacts and tomes of knowledge that even I have never seen before.

>She arrived shortly after the Cathedral was desecrated while most everyone else was fleeing.
>She arrived shortly after the Cathedral was desecrated while most everyone else was fleeing.

>hut constructed at the edge of town, seemingly overnight
>hut constructed at the edge of town, seemingly overnight
>seemingly overnight
>seemingly overnight

>and has access to many strange and arcane artifacts and tomes of knowledge that even I have never seen before.
> knowledge that even I have never seen before.
> knowledge that even I have never seen before.

Makes you think if it was planned in D1 from the start.

>> No.5193979

>>5192836
I was the same until I did however many bugged NM Andy runs. Best place to get tal's ammy and an SoJ. Doesn't take that long too.

>> No.5193981

>>5193287
You are easily the worst poster on 4chan I've seen all year. Stop replying to me, you're disgusting.

>> No.5194007

>>5193981
>can't refute the argument
The irony of a worst poster.

>> No.5194025

>>5194007
No point in arguing with a literal autist that doesn't know a thing about Diablo 2.

>> No.5194027

>>5194025
Are you speaking to a mirror right now? Because the one who doesn't know a thing about the game is you. Keep the ad-hominem since that seems to be the only thing you know.

>> No.5194031

>>5194027
>ad-hominem

How ironic considering your first post here >>5193287

>> No.5194035

>>5194031
Yeah, I talk about irony for you assuming stuff and the logical leap from there is for you to obviously do the same, since you can't think about stuff yourself. We're here to discuss diablo games, if you can't do that, then fuck off.

>> No.5194037

>>5194035
You're not discussing anything, just projecting and throwing insults around. Again, how ironic.

>> No.5194046

>>5193979
>>5193981
>>5194007
>>5194025
>>5194027
>>5194031
>>5194035
>>5194037
Can you two lovers go to /b/ and have this debate there everyone else would like to have a talk about the game Diablo 1 and 2.
Thank you.

>> No.5194050

>>5194046
Before I go, you have to answer. Which one is better, 1 or 2?

>> No.5194052

>>5194050
I'm not the one who started trading insults with you FYI.
Personally I prefer D1 for its compacts(1 town to know) and dark story. However others are free to disagree.

>> No.5194057

>>5194052
>I'm not the one who started trading insults with you FYI.

That's about to change, because 2 is way better than 1, you dumdum head.

>> No.5194059

>>5192281
One of the most pointless characters in existence. Imagine a melee skill that hits everything in proximity once very slowly, forcing you to kill in the slowest and least safe possible way. Now imagine this skill was also pseudo-uninterruptible, meaning it will finish its animation but will do nothing if you are in hit recovery, dodging or blocking, so it is actually worse than if you were just regular interruptible. Fend and sacrifice share the same special position of being the only attack skills worse than normal attack.

>> No.5194073

>>5167348
Started playing it when I was 10 years old, only stopped when I was 20 playing modded. Nowadays I don't really care much, the whole point of the game was grinding forever for better gear to grind with.

>> No.5194076

>>5194073
nobody asked

>> No.5194078

>>5194037
My post had both ad-hominem (because you're assuming stuff out of the blue to fit your narrative) and discussion about full clearing zones, yours have only one of these 2, guess who's the ironic retard now.

>> No.5194080

>>5172549
>RELEASE SIGMA ALREADY YOU LAZY FUCKS
I just checked the page and it's gonna be in january 2019. Holy shit I never thought they'd actually release the thing.

How's it going to be?

>> No.5194081
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5194081

>>5194076
Yes, and?

>> No.5194083

>>5194078
Quit bitching, autist.

>> No.5194085

Act II was the best and that's final.

>> No.5194086

>>5194083
>quit bitching
>meanwhile makes these posts
>>5194076
>>5194057
We're reaching autism levels that shouldn't be possible.

>> No.5194089

>>5194086
see >>5194083

>> No.5194096

>>5194089
see >>>/v/

>> No.5194097

>>5194096
see >>5194089

>> No.5194125

>>5193298
path of exile is calling

>> No.5194128

>>5194125
Diablo devs made the PoE team?

>> No.5194135

>>5194128
Chris Wilson: producer/developer
David Brevik: Advisor
I know for sure from Blizz North old team

>> No.5194156

>>5194128
I can understand the nostalgic allure of wanting to pick up D2 again in all this mess but the game is dated. If you want something that feels like Diablo that isn't Blizzard PoE is free to download on steam.

Some pointers. The art looks like more of a spiritual sequel to Diablo than any other clone without being a clone. Lots of quality of life updates in UI. Animation. Graphics. Sound.

The community is thriving and dedicated.

The game took more than a couple days for me to complete all ten acts. I'm still not max level. 69/100 and starting end game maps.

It's not grinding all the same maps/rifts. Map drops and end map bosses along with daily quests. Crafting and trade currencies. Trading is viable.

Cash shop isn't a money grab. Primarily only cosmetic and quality of life. The base game is very playable without anything off the cash shop.

I'm not getting paid to say this shit. I also picked up Grim Dawn and would suggest that as a Fallout/Diablo hybrid.

There are new games worth playing. Don't give Blizz your money. They've been fucking their fanbase and I'm sick of it. That's all I'm really trying to say.

>> No.5194159

>>5194156
What the fuck?

>> No.5194164 [DELETED] 

>>5194159
wtf indeed. I've been playing Blizzard games since Orcs and Humans. I even bought WC3 reforged for some reason. After their latest announcements and constant project cancellations finally said fuck it and tried some new games.

Maybe if I could find my D2 discs I'd give it a whirl but last I played it it was dry and slow in comparison to newer releases. Blizzard is sitting on their thumbs and throwing away good talent. They're outsourcing and making cash grabs. It's not the devs fault maybe but truth is Activision is screwing with everything.

They changed WC3 lore to match WoW and I'm not holding my breath for D4.

I know it's a D2 thread. But. There are other games out worth a play. Cheers.

>> No.5194169

>>5194159
what

>> No.5194313 [DELETED] 

>>5194125
i mean that he can't say something like "they pull me back in" as if the creators of immortal and d2 are the same.

>> No.5194320 [DELETED] 

i didn't mean they're gone from the industry, i meant that he can't say something like "they pull me back in" as if the creators of immortal and d2 are the same.

>> No.5194324

>>5194125
i didn't mean they're gone from the industry, i meant that he can't say something like "they pull me back in" as if the creators of immortal and d2 are the same.

>> No.5194363

>>5194324
autism

>> No.5194390

>>5194076
ah it's the "nobody asked" autist from the old general

>> No.5194406

>>5194390
see >>5194363

>> No.5194484

>>5194390
>>5194406
Jesus Christ will this thread be fucked up by this shitposting?
MODS!

>> No.5194505

>>5194484
I mean you could choose to reply to any of the on topic posts, or make your own post, but instead you don't.

>> No.5194530
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5194530

yet again the autism train derails the diablo thread bravo fucko's

>> No.5194536

>>5194530
>keeps crying instead of posting any Diablo 2 OC or starting a discussion

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5194542

>>5192104
>"full clearing zones is autism!!"
>proceeds to do boss and pindle runs over and over

>> No.5194548

>>5194542
Yes, because I'm not autistic, and want to actually be rewarded for my time played, instead of not getting any items.

>> No.5194550

>>5194530
>fucko's
if you were in these threads long enough you'll know it's just one faggot repeatedly doing it

>> No.5194557

>>5194548
Pretty sure autism is tied to doing the same thing again and again, but right on, let's ignore that because it breakes your narrative apart.

>> No.5194561

>>5194557
Unlike you, I'm not autistic, so I wouldn't know for sure, but in this case it's implied that it's doing the same thing again and again, without getting good results, which is what full clearing zones is.

>> No.5194562

>>5194536
OK I posted this >>5193970 Arguably the last Diablo post in here before a wall of text of shitposting anyone want to talk about it? Was Adria planed to worship Diablo from he start?
Also the walls of shitposting obscure the actually important posts I was ignoring it until it became impossible to ignore and the shitposting was unbearable.
Thank you.

>> No.5194565

>>5194550
two its two

>> No.5194567

>>5194561
Yes anon, I'm also sure that repeating you're not autistic over and over will one day make it a reality, hopefully you can cure yourself out of it.

>> No.5194569

>>5194562
Well I can't help you there because I'm not too invested in the lore, but I've made multiple gameplay related posts, and you didn't reply to any of them.

>> No.5194573

>>5194567
>no argument

That's what I thought.

>> No.5194575

>>5194569
>I'm not too invested in the lore
nobody asked

>> No.5194580

>>5194575
see >>5194363

>> No.5194581

>>5194573
>reddit spacing
That's what I thought.

>> No.5194583

>>5194484
no it's ok bro i'm done. what's your favorite act and your favorite PvM character my dude

>> No.5194584

>>5194581
>muh reddit obsession

Ok, redditor.

>> No.5194585

>>5194569
Cool lets keep talking about the games and hope the shitposters don't go full retard once more.

>> No.5194586

>>5194562
>Was Adria planed to worship Diablo from the start?
ok we all know d3 is not canon however Adria becoming corrupted like everyone else does make sense (well minus Cain)

>> No.5194587

>>5194585
Ok, post your grail list. And hopefully the actual autist takes his medicine or leaves.

>> No.5194597

>>5194585
Funnily enough the one you're replying to is the shitposter.

>> No.5194604

^ if you don't like Diablo you're free to leave the thread

>> No.5194607

@5194604
Follow the chain of replies and you'll see who's the one who doesn't like Diablo and is obsessed with the word autism.

>> No.5194609

^ you

>> No.5194612

reminder stop playing vanilla and start playing MXL

>> No.5194614

>>5194612
Only when the new thing releases in January.

>> No.5194621

>>5194586
Hmm I mean after playing D1 once more this line was a awakening call for me and her betrayal in D3 was feeling like something planned from the start.
I mean we have someone coming overnight into a town who everyone is leaving (strange at the minimum) and her hut was simply instantly established. And on the same day when the raiders attacked the Cathedral.

I think its really easy to make the conclusion that Adria worked for Diablo and demons of Diablo build her hut while they where desecrating the Cathedral.
She also has knowledge of things who are unknown to Cain (Possibly demonic in origin).

I mean its beneficial to have a spy in the town who can report to Diablo if things are not going to plan, her knowing that Diablo will poses whoever kills him explains why she did not try to stop the encounter/fight with Diablo.

I think this line of text sticks out if you look into it, however its easy to overlook and think nothing of it.
I think this was planned from the start or am I reading things into this? It really was a WTF moment of realization during my play of D1 once more.

Do you think its me reading things into the text of D1?
Or has Bliz folders for future development of their characters?
Or did someone at Bliz remember this line and decided to spin a story from it like some fan fiction only canon.
Or was this element planned for a expansion of D1 or even D2 however never materialized and was reworked into D3?

What do you think?

>> No.5194628

Has anyone played Resurgence? I'm seeing a few dudes stream it, but I'm not sure. Looks kind of weird.

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>>5167348
You know I need to ask everyone about this.
Is this only me or is everyone convinced that D3 is DRM cancerous always online bullshit?
Not the story or the mechanics or the graphics or the sound. The mother fucking always online shit?
It irked me the first time I did hear about it however I got D3 years after it was released.

I decided (for whatever reason) to give it a try once more today.

HOLY FUCK!
WHY THE FUCK do I GET LAG in a single player game!
This shit fucked me over!

You know how fucked this is?
I hate always online single player DRM the worst of all possible scenarios!

I'm convinced there is no Diablo after D2.
What is this drama supposed to be about Diablo immortal? D3 is cancerous DRM shit. How worse can always online phone connection be?

How can anyone even defend D3's always online DRM?
Or think it was a good game because of it?

>> No.5194650 [DELETED] 

>>5194649
Stop talking about non retro games on /vr/

>> No.5194653 [DELETED] 

>>5194650
Sorry I wanted to ask about it in contrast to D1 and D2 who did not use this DRM.

>> No.5194694 [DELETED] 

>>5194653
Fuck off already

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>>5194694
Can the mods ban this shitposting cancerous autists and remove his spam from this thread?

>> No.5194960

>>5189603
Just use thawing potions and he's not really a problem.

>> No.5194969

>>5167348
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20769709804
Remember, this Friday boys

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5194973

>>5168747
>>5171728
rage thread

>> No.5195487

>>5189916
barb and melee paladins at least crushflange is all you need to assassinate things with.

>> No.5195627

>>5195487
Crushflange is trash. Use Strength or Black if you want crushing blow.

>> No.5196885
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5196885

>favorite class?
Necro.

>> No.5196963

>>5196885
i think summoners are kind of fun for a while and then get really boring. it doesn't help that necros are the only ones that can do it right.

>> No.5197051

>>5196963
>i think summoners are kind of fun for a while and then get really boring.
I think you need the right mindset for them. The fun about Summoners is that they have tools to handle every encounter, you just have to use more curses than Amp and Decrep. Poor-man untwinked Necro that's on Hardcore and has to juggle curses for every given occasion can be a tense experience even if it's babby's first Guardian. Plus one fun thing about Summoners is that their entire build is finished at level 51~ or so (RS + SM + CE at 20) so if you're bored you can go get something like mass Revives or a nicely synergized Bone Spear/Bone Wall.

>> No.5197115

>>5197051
>Poor-man untwinked Necro that's on Hardcore and has to juggle curses for every given occasion can be a tense experience
This. I always put one point into each curse for various encounters.

>> No.5197431

>>5196885
>summoner
full blown fucking HIV positive G A Y like were talking I let freddie mercury fuck me in the ass and now I a have permanent prolapsed anus and my colon is rotting away in the aids ward gay

real niggas necros run dagger/explosionmancer not some faggy ass pansy that lets mr bones and friends fights for him because he's to chicken shit to tank some damage

>> No.5197435

>>5197431
edgy

>> No.5197694

>>5196963
>it doesn't help that necros are the only ones that can do it right.
Just mod the druid so that he can have all summons at once. Makes him go from garbage to fun. Or even better, increase the limit on shadow masters/warriors from 1 to 1 per 5 levels.

>> No.5198234

>>5196885
>dat resolution
lmao

>> No.5198256

ive done like 300 AT runs.

while ive gotten a +3 blizzard 15% cold damage ormus robes, the highest rune I've found is an Um, and the only monarch ive found is a stormshield.

Im getting really annoyed.

>> No.5198398

>>5198256
gah

i cant find SHIT in these tunnels. i need better gear so i can beat baal in hell, so i can do cows. but i dont wanna even try until i can get a monarch.

god
damn
it

>> No.5198576

>>5198398
What level are you at the moment? What gear?

>> No.5198603

>>5198576
85

>> No.5198607

>>5198603
oh and gear
+3 cold skill circlet and ammy
fcr mf rings
43% travs
+3 blizz +15cold% ormus
spirit sword 34%fcr
random res 23%mf gloves
goldwrap

>> No.5198749

Any one here? Does any one know the best way to play through Diablo 1 in 2018 on Windows 10? I just finished Diablo 2 with the glide wrapper recently, it worked great, something like that for Diablo 1? Is bezelbub fine for a "lore friendly" playthrough or no?

>> No.5198804
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5198804

>>5178732
Play Classic up to Act 4 normal
Then switch over to LoD.
Cry that we'll never get cool big-box art ever again.

>> No.5199287

>>5198603
>>5198607
Doesn't sound too shabby. And you're consistently getting your ass kicked by Baal? How's your merc?

>> No.5199330

>>5199287
I haven't tried yet. I beat Meph, did him for a little bit, now I'm doing AT. I thought AT would be better for me for finding gear. i'm just getting frustrated with AT. My plan was to grind AT for *hopefully* Infinity. Or AT and LK. but I know thats a tall order. At least a Spirit Monarch and maybe Occy/Shako

>> No.5199368

>>5167348
How do I build a Bonemancer? Everytime I tried one they seem so weak.
Is Crossbow Paladin any good?
Is elemental Druid good?

>> No.5199374

>>5197431
>lets mr bones and friends fights for him
Going too far

>> No.5199383

>>5199368
>How do I build a Bonemancer? Everytime I tried one they seem so weak.
Max Bone Spear with synergies and use primarily Bone Spear due to being a piercing attack. It's a fairly straightforward caster, you just need FCR. Get a Golem as a one-point wonder to tank for you, and use curses as usual to keep people controlled. Except now you also have a strong Bone Wall to keep yourself supersafe. Any Necro build works well as long as you hard-invest into Corpse Explosion for massive screen-clears.
>Is Crossbow Paladin any good?
Why Crossbow Paladin of all things? Anyway, non-Amazon archer builds are firmly in the "gimmicky" category and will generally have slow killing speed. It depends on how much you'd enjoy the challenge. On the plus side, you can use Vigor to help kite.
>elemental Druid
Yeah, Fire Druid is a really fast Normal/Nightmare clearer and Windy is perfectly self-sufficient for NM/Hell. Another brand of "elemental" Druid I've built is a Fireclaws Werebear - very strong tank for large /p8 parties and really safe in hardcore. You even have good killing speed in Hell... against anything that's not Fire Immune, which is a tall order. But I did a lot of damage with just a +20% IAS Dagger (I couldn't find any better weapons for a long time).

>> No.5199424

>>5198749
belzebub is fine, you can go with that. but if you really want the original (or hellfire) you can still play them but you gotta terminate explorer.exe on the task manager so they don't have fucked up colors

>> No.5199472

>>5198749
>Is bezelbub fine for a "lore friendly" playthrough or no?
In some ways yes, in some ways no.
Some of the quests in Diablo 2 were based on quests they were going to implement in the first game, but didn't (probably for time constraint reasons). The thing is that Belzebub restores or redoes these quests in Diablo 1, using the leftover assets they belong to (to pretty decent lengths, IMO).

So if you play Belzebub and then Diablo 2, you would have the Arcane Sanctuary, and then the Arcane Sanctuary again, you would have Andariel, and then Andariel again, etc.
They're pretty different in each of them, but they'll sort of be spoilers, and they'll be sort of odd. You aren't playing the same character, but you still would end up with the idea "Didn't I kill Andariel?"

>> No.5199612

>>5198749
>just finished Diablo 2 with the glide wrapper
that hasn't been necessary since 2015

>> No.5199657

I've tried playing it many times over the last 15 years and I just don't like this sort of game, I always end up dropping the game. I also tried Torchlight, not retro and that was worse by a factor of 10

>> No.5199680

What's the best way to play Diablo II? I'm running win7 and am interested in mods, qol stuff I guess. Maybe it's a stupid question, just wanted some opinions.

>> No.5199685

>>5197431
Lol, Mr bones. I want off his crazy ride. :(

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>>5199685

>> No.5199968

>>5199612
It really improved shit for me, also let me play in like faux wide-screen, game renders in 800x600 still but it's stretched properly so my monitor doesn't have to do work, with black bars ofc so it was still 4:3,also seemed to make it smoother

>>5199472
>>5199424
Thanks, I was asking because some people complain beelzebub changes enemy spawn and doesn't save location etc and thus its more suited for people that just want to grind items rather than go through the story

>> No.5199979

>>5199968
It does change the gameplay some, yeah.
A lot of the core is there still, but it also takes some ideas and functions from Diablo 2, good ones in my opinion, but it is a different game from the original.

I've played Diablo for decades, ever since I was like 5 or 6 years old, I have played the original a LOT, I've seen pretty much all there is, so the idea of a game which retains the same aesthetics, feel, and style as one that I cherish a lot, but adds a lot of new content to that, and some quality of life upgrades like a storage stash and a second weapon setup, that has a lot of appeal to me.
I think Belzebub is very good (though it is not perfect), but I also think that if you haven't experienced the original game before, you should try that first, so you get an idea on how much changes.

>> No.5200190

>>5199680
Single player? Can't go wrong by starting with glide wrapper + PlugY.

>> No.5200202

>>5199330
IIRC, when I killed Baal the first time with my sorc, I was nearer to level 90 than 85 (not that it likely mattered *that* much).
Gear was more or less:
Tal helmet, amulet & belt
Skullder's Ire
Spirit Monarch
Wizspike (because fuck my resistances otherwise... Good thing I'm on PlugY so I can realloc that dexterity later)
Magefist
some semi-random rings
+
holy freeze merc (NM & 'defensive') with:
Guillaume's Face
Crow Caw
Obedience cryptic axe

Probably not quite ideal (even with the staff of gear I had at that point), but got the job done.

>> No.5200479

>>5200190
not that guy, but im not sure how to get glid wrapper to work with plugy

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>>5199680
You need 1.13c because 1.14 broke mods compatibility, use D2MultiRes and PlugY, you can't use Glide with D2MultiRes though, and if you want to play windowed you can't change the brightness and contrast, but alt-tabbing is fast since it's an old game. I would also recommend pic related since it lets you play under many different versions of the game, including mods like MedianXL, without the need to tamper with the original files.

>> No.5200670

>>5167348
Man I played the shit out of this much to the detriment of my high schooling. This is probably the game I put the most time into out of hundreds I own. I was botting, multi-boxing, trading items on forums, had like 30 accounts and would just live and breath this shit.

Meanwhile I think I played through D3's normal mode once and called it quits.

>> No.5200827
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whens the ladder reset i want to play Non-LOD

>> No.5201062

>>5200827
Friday 7pm ET

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>>5201062
thanks, you gunna play?

>> No.5201093

>>5200670
Same here, once was enough for me.

>> No.5201149

>>5201091
Yes. What level and difficulty is that? I want to go Pally this reset and I'm interested in your guy keeping the life up.

>> No.5201269

>>5201149
You can tell by the color of Andariel

>> No.5201689

You can either bring back the classic rpg systems but updated and the gameplay systems of the old Diablo, removing the oversimplification and "streamlining" of 3, or you can bring back the Gothic art direction, atmosphere, tone and feel.
Which one

>> No.5201745

>>5200190
Thanks anon. :)

>> No.5201861

>>5201689
I crank Metzen in the back of the head with an old, slightly rusty S&W 4506, then I violently take control of and conquer Blizzard as my own, seizing the cake and devouring it.

Diablo 3 is declared null and void, and the franchise officially ends with Lord Of Destruction. Overwatch is cancelled and I rent out the assets for people who want to make porn.
All of Blizzard's catalogue of games get their source code released for endless sourceporting and modding and compatibility.

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>>5201149
It was in a normal solo run with players set to 8, I found two pieces of the angelic set so I was attacking at an astonishing rate.

>> No.5202209

>>5201149
I think I was around level 17 from meticulously clearing every monster in act 1

>> No.5202282

Never played Diablo I, want to get into it now, how do I set up? Seen a lot of different mods around here but that makes it more confusing when it comes to picking.

>> No.5202307

>>5202282
You need to make sure to kill Windows Aero while the game is running, as well as running it in Compatibility mode. If I remember right.

>> No.5203252

>>5201745
i gave you way better detailed information than that faggot and you rather thank him? fuck off

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5204425

>>5201062
>>5201091
The reset is at 8:00pm ET, not 7!
I'm making a party, and have a few coming already on USE Hardcore.
/f a teppu

>> No.5204493

What's the best way for me to play vanilla D2 1.06?

>> No.5204506

>>5167348
Can someone explain to me how to defeat Duriel and the bosses after him with a summon necro? I've always been interested in the spec but every time I get to Duriel I hit a wall and cannot progress (on normal lol).

>> No.5204559

>>5204506
"slows target" is really strong in this game so you want to use clay golems and decrepify against bosses in general, but you probably don't have decrepify yet unless you're playing p8, so i would say make sure you have a good balance between the points spent in skeleton and skeleton mastery. and this is just theorycrafting but maybe iron maiden might help, i see speedrunners using this on norm duriel i think

>> No.5204585

>>5204506
the skeletons should easily roll him assuming you are something like 2 points into raise skeleton for every point into mastery and 1 into amp and clay golem

>> No.5204641

>ladder reset today
>tfw still want to stay with my comfy singleplayer characters with a shared stash and 8 player drop/exp rates

>> No.5204741

>>5204425
What's your pacing going to be?

>> No.5204753

>>5204741
I have no idea. I imagine most of us are pretty experienced and going to play through at a decent pace.

>> No.5204756

>>5204753
You know it might be easier to meet up together in a bnet channel or just make a private game and let people flow in

>> No.5204757

>>5204756
there's a couple of us in /v/ on USE

>> No.5204761

>>5204757
Doesn't the realm go down?

>> No.5204762

>>5204761
It's down now but we're in open b.net while we wait

>> No.5204798

Ladder is up

>> No.5204829

>>5204798
Game?

>> No.5204870

>>5204829
Running game

>> No.5204890

>>5204870
whats your room and password

>> No.5204897

>>5204890
Running Game

>> No.5205041

F

>> No.5205637
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5205637

struggling real hard in hell, bowazon lvl 87, solo players 8.

Found tal rasha armor, would have loved to drop a windforce or mav' bow instead, but oh well, 40% rez + 88mf help a bit.

>> No.5205668

>>5205637
>mav' bow
Aren't you using a Witchwild String? That's way superior to M'avina on a physical strafer, unless you get a full Mav set on a Frost Maiden.
>/players 8 Bowazon
yikes, godspeed anon

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5205696

Making a non-expansion ladder character for the first time wish me luck lads

>> No.5205737

Anyone here ever tried playing Zy-El?
It was basically grind: the mod.

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5205740

Frogot my image

>> No.5205820

eh, does anybody any non-torrent source for the game? my brother has the cd we bought as children, thought it's scratched as hell, and I want some loot and mindless fun a bit
igg has one working link and it times out because 4.4gb @150kbps is like 10h, GOD shut down, found a few unpatched versions in soulseek but 50kbps is the speed.

>> No.5206606

>dead on a weekend

>> No.5207030

>>5205637
I've been looking for that damn armor forever.

>> No.5207782

what mods should i get as a beginner of diablo 2?

>> No.5207787

>>5205820
If you have a valid CD-Key you can download the game from battle.net

>>5207782
Don't.

>> No.5207812

>>5207782
Plugy is all you need. Go ham.

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I swear if I see another motherfucking lacquered plate, or a diadem, or a fucking unearthed wand, that's not unique or a set item for the lacquered plate, I'm moving to the US, getting a gun license, and shooting up a whole mall.

>> No.5207846

Could anybody lend a knowledge on how to make mods play along nicely. I'm was using plugy, but then noticed other shit i wanted, so now it's stra-d2mod, e=mc2 x-mas ed., and diablo 2 lod: maximum power, but I notice some of the features of the mods are missing, probably because some files had to be overwritten (i backed them up), one even came with a 2.7x larger plugy executable.. Since the mods aren't modular youcan pick and choose what to implement and what not..

>> No.5207852

>tfw 15 str 10% ll dracs

>> No.5208036

I want to play Diablo I for the first time, should I have the Hellfire expansion or not?

>> No.5208065

>>5207846
please help

>> No.5208221

>>5208065
using the mpq editting tool i see that I can't simply extract and then add everything from one to the other- too many same name, as well the % values don't get copied over... I'm wishing for the modding tools for bethesda games

>> No.5208317

>>5167348
>I've still never finished D2 but I'm currently playing it

If you wanna beat it faster, reinstall with patch 1.08 or 1.09, basicaly BEFORE they added synergies. They make weird builds more viable but monster were also buffed up making the game overall more difficulty and grindy. Only fast way to beat the game is to play online to trade for the best equips . and get highlevel guys to help you farm, or open up waypoints earlier.

>> No.5208326

>>5173163
I > V > II > III > IV

V had the most variety of dungeons/areas. I felt more an open world game. The underground and indoor parts felt like classic D1. II was okay I guess? III had annoying maze-like jungles. IV was linear as fug and all greyish in colour. Dull dull dull.

>> No.5208337

>>5205696
>Non expansion
Vanilla D2 has no runes, you idiot.

>> No.5208385

>>5208036
Hellfire is by Sierra and really just mod-tier content. It used to be more of a dealbreaker when Hellfire didn't allow you to get on Battle.net, now that D1 b.net is dead it's probably irrelevant. I wouldn't bother with Hellfire myself.

>> No.5208457

>>5208337
Never said it did

>> No.5208496

>>5208337
>>5208326
>>5208317
kill yourself

>> No.5208567

Looking for a monarch to make spirit

First monarch drop, stormshield
Second monarch drop, a rare one
Third monarch drop, a magic one

How shitty is my fourth onegonna be?

>> No.5208717

>>5208567
It's gonna be eth.

>> No.5208750

>>5208567
1os

>> No.5208875

>>5208717
I’m the same dude that’s been bitching about getting a monarch all thread.

After 200 runs in AT with no white monarch, I decided to keep track of all elite white items that have dropped in my pursuit of a monarch. I only haven’t seen a monarch

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>>5205696
Got this awesome staff on my level 32 non-expansion guy

>> No.5209342

>>5208036
Don't do Hellfire for your first time. For one thing it breaks unique drops so you'll never see any of the new unique items, or the old ones for that matter.
It's also really goofy at parts.

>> No.5209359

sacred 2 > diablo shit any day

you are too stupid to enjoy this game though
dont pump atk % like a dumbass. socket your rings/amulets into armor at the blacksmith which adds CA regen perhit and minus evade chance for enemy

nobody actually knows how to play this fucking game

>> No.5209404

>>5209359
Go kys

>> No.5209820

>>5209306
nah, you can shop wands with 20 fcr /res or 20 fcr/mana and then shop a 30/20 pris boneshield

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>>5167348
REPORT IN BROS

>> No.5214319

>>5207030
yeah i got real lucky, dropped when i was doing some countess run, also got the belt.

>>5205668
Yeah i tried WWS but it's useless at the moment, switched back to a Harmony bow, really help to do andy/countess run

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>>5209306
I found a fun one.

>> No.5214758

>>5214565
garbage, make a spirit sword

>> No.5215291

>>5214565
thats awesome, currently using spire of lazarus now

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>>5168747
>tfw aussieb died before finding a HoZ

>be me
>forgot about that months ago once the /vr/ d2 general died
>drop in cause bored
>faggots still talking about me

Still don't have that HoZ though. Barely 5 items left.

>> No.5215450

>>5215447
Forgot to mention, doing a HC zealdin at the moment. Breddy fun. Nearly died.