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The first mortal kombat game is objectively horseshit.

>> No.5160104

All of them were up until 9.

It's just two people hitting each other. That's not "fighting". It's stiff, lacks strategic subtlety, and sells entirely on its gimmick.

>> No.5160116

FINISH >>5160086

>> No.5160201

>>5160104
fpbp

Coming off the back of SF2 I could never understand why my peers went nuts for this crap. I never liked it from day one.

>> No.5160202

>>5160086
has anyone ever really claimed otherwise?
the game was playable, that's really the best praise you can give it outside its few gimmicks.

>> No.5160224

>>5160201
MKs best feature isn't actually the gore and blood. It's that it's super simple and easy to learn with all the characters controlling similarly so anyone could pick it up and do all the moves.

But that shallowness is also why it doesn't hold up to serious play.

>> No.5160353

>>5160224
>is also why it doesn't hold up to serious play.
this is false and retarded, you obviously have no idea of what high level play really entails psychologically.

>> No.5160450

>>5160086
Gore is objectively more fun than anything the autistic FGC cares about.

>> No.5160454

MK2 improved the gameplay of 1, but 1 still has the best aesthethics of the series.
Also SF1 is utter garbage and SF2WW is outdated in comparison to later updates

>> No.5160460

my friends always wanted to play mk rather than sf2
scrubs

>> No.5160481

>>5160086
Really?

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>>5160460
>my friends always wanted to play mk rather than sf2
MK is more fun for casuals. It's like an early party game for boys. You play as a ninja, god, Bruce lee, jcvd, etc and beat the fuck outta your friends. It's fun. Yeah, it's not very deep. Big deal. As long as your having a good time with your buds shit talking and ripping some spines out who cares.

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>>5160454
Really? Personally, I think MK2 had the best aesthetics by a long shot.

>> No.5160696

>>5160615

What I liked about the first one is it had that Bruce Lee/Enter the Dragon feeling like an old martial arts movie. The second one entered more into the fantasy element that while decent sort of went off on its own track.

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>>5160086
>The first mortal kombat game is objectively horseshit.
*teleports behind you*

nothing personal, kid...

>> No.5160738

>western fighting games
>good

>> No.5160849

>>5160086
Having been there back in the day, I can tell you that there wasn't of a "Street Fighter II vs. Mortal Combat" vibe in the crowd that I hung around.

There were a bunch of fighting games and we all treated them with a fair amount of respect. SF2 & MK were the biggest of the bunch but there were some others that people were pretty good at as well.

MK was viewed as a grittier, more violent version of SF2. Because it was photo-capture rather than animation, some people preferred that type of look. The fatalities were novel because of the gore and, anytime a teenager or young adult can piss off a politician or some other uptight adult, that was always fun.

In the end, I don't prefer one over the other. It was a fun time but the end was nearing for arcades in the US and you could sense it. Once SF2 leapt to the Nintendo (and consoles were finally closing the gap on the arcades), you could sense that arcades were dying out. The arcade machines were becoming more sophisticated in an effort to adapt but it was no use; Once a kid realized that they could get 80% of the fun for 100% less cost (not to mention travel expense and other considerations), that was a deal too good to pass up.

>> No.5160884

>>5160086
Your existence is objectively horseshit.

>> No.5160892

it's still horseshit

>> No.5160920

it spawned tons of clones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaNGnkl46gY

>> No.5160991

>>5160086
It's kind of just mediocre.

>>5160104
2 is fun. 3/Ultimate/Trilogy isn't bad.

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>>5160104
>It's just two people hitting each other. That's not "fighting".

"Two people hitting each other" could sum up every single fighting game ever made.
Like it was said before, MK was considered a game that anyone could pick up easily and play.
It wasn't without high level tactics though, the simple jabs allowed for a lot of pressuring, and it was the first game to allow for juggles. It may look very basic compared to SF2, but keep in mind that all moves did chip damage, so it didn't need strategic subtlety, it favoured heavy pressuring and back-and-forth gameplay.
Then MK3 and especially UMK3 pushed the envelope with the Run button allowing for even more aggressive pressure.

>>5160696
This, MK was basically Jean-Claude Van Damme vs. Bruce Lee: The Game. It was the culmination of all the campy fighting action movies from the 80s, both the American ones and the Hongkong ones, turned into a fighting game. The final boss is Lo Pan for christ sake.

>> No.5161051

The first game in almost every fighting series tends to be pretty bad, come to think of it.

>> No.5161052

>>5160920
So did SF2, boyo. Or Doom. Or Warcraft and Command & Conquer.

Every influential game does so.

>> No.5161058

>>5161051
Soul Edge wasn't bad.
Toshinden was good for the first game and then got progressively worse (they really should've fixed the awful input lag and then it could've been a fun series).

>> No.5161079

>>5160086
that is easy to say if you fail to think outside today's perspective, which you obviously do.

back in the day, the competitive spirit around fighters was basically non-existent. MK had movies, a cartoon and was much more appealing with 90s edge.

Today fighters are just another game on the tourneys, back then MK was a franchise that kids enjoyed from different angles.

>> No.5161164

>>5160353
Lol

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>>5160498
This guy gets it.

>> No.5161360

>>5160086

WRONG. Its subjectively horse shit too. I remember walking into the arcade, and hearing this really loud, obnoxious sounding game. So i walked up to it, watched the demo loop for a while, before breaking out in laughter. I havent seen a game as cheesy as mk up until that point in time. Thinking back at that experience, its incredible how many sequels this lame cheese fest spawned.

>> No.5162846

>>5161049
holy fuck china obrien, that takes me back

>> No.5163083

>>5160450
t. casual brainlet

>> No.5163090

>>5160086
>it's casual and therefore bad
No.

>> No.5163269

How do I unlock the Naked Nigger character?

>> No.5163273

>>5163083
No. When I want an actual challenging game I'll play an RTS because I actually have a brain.

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5163274

This cunt.

>> No.5163275

>>5163274
Kuntaro

>> No.5163393

>>5160086
it was the first one, mk2 was the real gem

>> No.5163410

>>5160615
It did. mK2 had God-tier aesthetics. I liked the fact that MKX kinda-sorta went back to that particular style not just in terms of the less cartoonish, desaturated colors, but especially when they were in Outworld (the special forces earth-realm team were boring as fuck like usual).

>> No.5163414

>>5163274
They really fucked his design up after MK2. Providence must’ve intervened when they chose his final look in the second game as opposed to their original draft with him looking like a cheetahman.

>> No.5163491

it was a good intro to fighting games with easy moves and no complicated charge meters but mk2 fixed many of the issues

>> No.5163515

I always thought it was incredibly bad ass that the centaur boss in MK3 would deflect projectiles. Midway wasn't fucking around - they wanted to intimidate you.

>> No.5164392

>>5161049
sweet jpg

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>>5164392

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5164640

They definitely improved over the years

https://archiveofourown.org/works/9800783

>> No.5164704

MK1 is awful yes. MK2-4 are pretty good titles, albeit clunky and have some strange design choices. I think the 3D MKs could've been much better if they were polished and bug tested.
>t. Long time fighting game player

>> No.5164875

>>5160086
It was just a gimmick

>> No.5164931

>>5161049
This. Capcucks go on about their mechanic bullshit, but the truth is people loved MK1 because it was real people, a parody of all the action flicks they had seen, easy as fuck, and had a hidden gore move you had to figure out.

>> No.5164971

>taunt cancels and chips your shithole to death
Fuck umk3 shao khan

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>>5164971

>> No.5165037

>>5160086
Not just the first one

>>5160104
>gimmick
Literally the only reason anyone ever played this turd

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5165135

The first post in this thread is objectively horseshit.

>> No.5165215

>>5164931
Don't forget the storyline. Didn't the first game come with an actual comic book?

>> No.5166136

>>5165215
Something like that. It's always had a story, while SFV fucked up with theirs. Many fighters at the time had the bare bones of a story at the time.

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>>5164704
>I think the 3D MKs could've been much better if they were polished and bug tested.

They would've been better it they were at least as fast as mkt-mk4 were, had running option and kept some of the dial in combos.

>> No.5166270

MK2>MK1>MK4>gap>MK3

1 still has the best music/settings/characters

2 is the most fun to play in the whole series

3 was a train wreck

4 is still fun and feels a lot like 2, although 3D

>> No.5166473

>>5160450
>gore is more important than gameplay
that's gonna be a yikes from me dawg

>> No.5167115

>>5166473
>yikes
yikes

>> No.5167117

>>5166473
Some people really suck at games so they just look at the graphics.

>> No.5168010

>>5160086
You're on dope OP. The arcades back then had people lining up for that game and it was a fucking riot. I remember when it came out. 'Caused pandemonium in the arcades. You had to be there.

>> No.5168928

>>5161049
>>5160498
>>5160696
These guys nailed it.

>>5164704
>>5166265
I'm glad I'm not the only one that likes them.
I always found the fighting style change/combo chaining mechanics ridiculously fun, and the visuals were right on top with MK2's most of the time.
I think the slow pace if what fucked them the most. Playing them at 1.5x or even 2x through an emulator can make a huge difference.

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>>5160696
>What I liked about the first one is it had that Bruce Lee/Enter the Dragon feeling like an old martial arts movie.
my shaw brother

>> No.5171194

sounds counter-intuitive but I actually really liked how glitchy and unpolished the megadrive MK1 port was compared to the subsequent installments. gave the game a sort of odd charm and appeal many years later when I was given a copy by a friend who was getting rid of his games. and most importantly its still a great game despite the flaws

>> No.5171239

There is a novelty value to the aesthetics though, which was always there from the start.

BTW, the only thing that pissed me off about Mortal Kombat Trilogy was that there was no old Shang Tsung. Bring back old Shang Tsung!

>> No.5171258

>>5171239
>BTW, the only thing that pissed me off about Mortal Kombat Trilogy was that there was no old Shang Tsung. Bring back old Shang Tsung!

The problem with that was he was portraid by the previous Liu Kang actor, one of the people that sued Midway that caused him and the other people involved to be replaced.

>> No.5171441

I really like the music in the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LutyOeD1E4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fuWOPyrK6E&list=PLJc0HdSx0-f1MrdIbDzaKj0WlCcXx80ax&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MU1I1DxaQY&index=8&list=PLJc0HdSx0-f1MrdIbDzaKj0WlCcXx80ax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckngFWyd5F0&list=PLJc0HdSx0-f1MrdIbDzaKj0WlCcXx80ax&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er77NjM3OrQ&list=PL60E1CC6C1F35C5C2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbs93Uug-w0&index=3&list=PL60E1CC6C1F35C5C2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvdFcr0z08&list=PLNJZ_2XtY314QB9yr7ABNETJn6Bo42f3p&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M693G_s8r-E&list=PLNJZ_2XtY314KSS9SMVfF7JmLVkMka1Xf&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxHoeBRnYAg&list=PLNJZ_2XtY314KSS9SMVfF7JmLVkMka1Xf&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkyTAER3G7g&index=11&list=PLNJZ_2XtY314KSS9SMVfF7JmLVkMka1Xf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUjErknLQc&list=PLNJZ_2XtY314KSS9SMVfF7JmLVkMka1Xf&index=21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y_N3RQfdbE&list=PLs7_awFaeFZG4XmsIDsDdMe4Gn-J9nio1&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaU_BfzmVQg&index=10&list=PLs7_awFaeFZG4XmsIDsDdMe4Gn-J9nio1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_CkZx9DISM&list=PLs7_awFaeFZG4XmsIDsDdMe4Gn-J9nio1&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixeyl9tS25U&list=PLs7_awFaeFZG4XmsIDsDdMe4Gn-J9nio1&index=18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WUmkJxQf08&index=24&list=PLs7_awFaeFZG4XmsIDsDdMe4Gn-J9nio1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBBJlicJlZw&index=25&list=PLs7_awFaeFZG4XmsIDsDdMe4Gn-J9nio1

>> No.5171454

It aged like milk 2bh and every sequel improved on it.

>> No.5171465

>>5171441
Nobody cares.

>> No.5171468

>>5165135
dat ass, muh dick

>> No.5171479

>>5165135
I'm jerking off to this right now

>> No.5171494

>>5160086
>The first mortal kombat game is objectively horseshit.
>le baby trying to play with his mushy xbox 360 d-pad
Get a real pad and get good

MK1 is behind only MK2 and SF2 in classic 2D fighters

Its barebones move set is what makes it great and a true test of player skill/reaction time 1 vs 1. You have a million other fighters with convoluted move sets to choose from, MK1 is unique

>> No.5171495

>>5171441
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omvdFcr0z08
so iconic

>> No.5171792

>>5171194
>Eurocuck
Learn some proper English, beast. The game is fun though.

>> No.5172346

>>5160224
Smash Bros would like a word concerning simple move sets and high level play...

>> No.5173086

>>5160086
Yeah but so are the rest of them mate.