This game was so good at making a tense and creepy atmosphere. I still remember my heart pounding at this part. They really did an excellent job making the most of the limited GB hardware.

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Anonymous Tue Nov 13 03:42:37 2018 No.5159849 [Reply] [Original]

This game was so good at making a tense and creepy atmosphere. I still remember my heart pounding at this part. They really did an excellent job making the most of the limited GB hardware.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 05:05:11 2018 No.5159908 tiny screen shit "music" metroid 1 was better fite me

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 05:33:24 2018 No.5159934 easily the worst metroid dude, wtf

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 05:44:22 2018 No.5159943 >>5159849 I found that with many gameboy games. Atmosphere was heightened with that green/yellow monochromatic look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 05:50:19 2018 No.5159949 I came here to post the best metal version of tunnel http://www.metroidmetal.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/metroid2-thetunnel.mp3 here it is behold

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 06:30:08 2018 No.5159963 Metroid II is one of the most creative entries in the series. >>5159908 >>5159934 Some typical terrible /vr/ taste on display.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 07:42:01 2018 No.5160017 >>5159908 >>5159934 No, Metroid 1 is the worst entry in the series.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 10:20:45 2018 No.5160163 >>5159849 I agree. Fusion is best Metroid game as far as spooky & panic-inducing moments, but Metroid II unquestionably laid the groundwork for that and comes in 2nd in that department.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 15:56:52 2018 No.5160628 >>5159908 >metroid 1 >unplayably bad controls >hideous graphics

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 14:54:25 2018 No.5162336

>>5159849

Every 2d metroid game i've played has had this uncanny way of making me feel fear in some way or another (The exception being the first). I may sound crazy, but despite not being as high powered as the later 2d entries, Metroid 2 very much did this to me too. I can remember being fucking teriffied of the omega metroids and running for my life while trying desperately to pump them full of missiles. And the Metroid Queen is a pretty freaky final boss for a Gameboy game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:32:34 2018 No.5162414 File: 47 KB, 636x276, pick a game, any game.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5159934 >easily the worst metroid

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:34:03 2018 No.5162416 >>5162414 >not the ds spinoffs >not FUCKING OTHER M Please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:35:19 2018 No.5162419 >>5162414 The Metriod Prime series is absolute shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:36:24 2018 No.5162423 >>5162419 *the absolute shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:37:43 2018 No.5162427 >>5162423 *the absolutely worst shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:39:36 2018 No.5162430 File: 461 KB, 1750x2500, mens-lederhosen-kit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5162427 *Metroid Prime was absolutely the shit, Wurst.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:40:38 2018 No.5162431 >>5162416 >spinoffs >plural Pinball was good though. I'd also argue that Hunters at least succeeded in being a fun multiplayer game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 15:55:41 2018 No.5162475 File: 44 KB, 768x720, 1498639616710.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] defend this inb4 somebody claims bumping into enemies constantly somehow "enhances" the atmosphere

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 16:04:50 2018 No.5162496

Alright, you chucklefucks forced me to do this. I don't want to, but just remember this is on YOU, not me. With that said, time for...

THE OFFICIAL METROID POWER RANKINGS!

>God Tier
Super Metroid, Metroid Prime

>Great Tier
Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime 3

>Non-Canonical Stupid Fun Tier
Metroid Prime Pinball

>Good Tier
Metroid, Metroid II: Return of Samus, Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid: Samus Returns

>Bland Tier
Metroid Prime Hunters, Metroid Prime: Federation Force

>Shit Tier
Metroid: Other M

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 16:06:59 2018 No.5162504 >>5162496 Swap Fusion and Prime 3 with Zero and Prime 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 16:08:57 2018 No.5162509 Shut up, Brown.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 16:09:26 2018 No.5162512 >>5162504 I can be convinced with Zero and Fusion, but I'm standing firm on the Primes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 16:12:56 2018 No.5162521 >>5162496 Super: >Look what you can do! Prime: >Look what our artists can do!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 23:56:53 2018 No.5163154 >>5162496 Samus Returns is noticeably worse than Return of Samus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 17:21:56 2018 No.5164212 >>5159908 >shit "music" Seriously though, what's up with the sound.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 17:52:49 2018 No.5164249 >>5159849 I agree. Too many people ignore its strenghts because the gameplay is not as smooth as the others.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 18:14:49 2018 No.5164273 >>5159949 Just chiming in to say that cover is excellent. Stemage does great work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 21:32:28 2018 No.5164558 >>5159849 >limited GB hardware Huh? There wasn't anything limiting about it, unless you're talking things like sprite rotation/zooming and 3D which even home consoles released years after it couldn't do either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 15 21:43:12 2018 No.5164571 >>5164558 >SCREEN SIZE

Anonymous Thu Nov 15 21:55:59 2018 No.5164589

>>5164212
nothing wrong with it at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCIH943auRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZsfpMBRmE

these tracks are obviously meant to be the sounds of the creepy wildlife of SR388, which is cool as fuck imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9IbS0PiLXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7U-DlbjPM

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 01:16:50 2018 No.5164842 >>5159908 >shit "music" I mean I'm not gonna disagree entirely, but tell me this song isn't good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCIH943auRA

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 01:24:39 2018 No.5164850 >>5164558 jesus christ shut the fuck up

Anonymous Fri Nov 16 02:53:32 2018 No.5164947

>>5159849
This game is a masterpiece, don't know if I prefer this or Super as the best one, they both do very unique things that the other doesn't. The final boss fight in this is so fucking intense, and the way that final section slowly ramps up to it, it's one of my favorite video game moments ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 03:11:09 2018 No.5164970 File: 140 KB, 367x407, 1538140054242.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5164589 Yeah. That's the jam right there. They don't make em like they used to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 04:46:03 2018 No.5165023 >>5162496 Swap Fusion and Zero Mission around and I can get behind that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 05:32:06 2018 No.5165061 defend this cacophonous mess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNx3euo6KcU

Anonymous Fri Nov 16 05:59:55 2018 No.5165089

>>5165061
Come on now, you could have at least posted the real pinnacle of Metroid 2's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7U-DlbjPM

I'll still go ahead and take the bait. Not defending either as great vidya music per se, but they're ambience, plain and simple. Gotta say they actually convey a weird, alien, isolated and creepy vibe pretty well, even being less than easy on the ear...

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 16 12:28:35 2018 No.5165526 >>5165061 Are you kidding? That sounds awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 13:01:25 2018 No.5167312 >>5165061 like I said before, it's obviously meant to be ambient animal sounds. Giant insects buzzing around and making creepy noises and shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 13:19:54 2018 No.5167341 >>5165061 Not every BGM in a game needs to be generic le chiptunez epic pop music. This sounds like a brilliant use of GB's limited processing capabilities to create atmosphere to me.

Anonymous Sat Nov 17 13:35:32 2018 No.5167357

>>5162475
i would have preferred they zoom out like they did for Super Mario Land 1, but (like most later GB platformers, including the other Mario games) they choose to zoom in to allow for better visuals on a very limited system.
Luckily the game is designed around the viewpoint. Traps and enemies are more spaced-out and slow to react, which mitigates how quickly they appear. You won't be bumping into enemies constantly unless you're terrible at games.

Anonymous Sat Nov 17 13:42:46 2018 No.5167370

>>5162496
you seem to have swapped a few titles. let me help

>God Tier
Super Metroid, Metroid Prime

>Great Tier
Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Fusion

>Good Tier
Metroid II: Return of Samus, Metroid (if you like NES games)

>Bland Tier
Metroid Prime Hunters, Metroid Prime: Federation Force, Metroid Prime 3, Metroid: Samus Returns

>Shit Tier
Metroid: Other M, Metroid (if you're shit at NES games)

>Non-Canonical Stupid Fun Tier
Metroid Prime Pinball, Metroid Blast

>Spiritual Sequel Tier
Kid Icarus

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 13:47:53 2018 No.5167379 >>5162504 not him but i disagree

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 14:16:01 2018 No.5167418 >>5167341 >dat heartbeat sound building up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhFqDQAAsfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYN-qF9ByyE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DrfRrP8Qa0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-dF8PSinew

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 14:19:40 2018 No.5167427 >>5167370 >Spiritual Sequel >Kid Icarus retarded logic. they were literally released the same day in japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 14:22:09 2018 No.5167428 >>5167370 Metroid Prime 3 was better than that. Other than that you're spot on

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 14:29:32 2018 No.5167443 >>5167370 King of plebs right here

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 14:43:16 2018 No.5167467 >>5167370 the 'tism is strong with this one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 15:23:39 2018 No.5167541 >>5167370 The Kid Icarus GB sequel is better than the original game.

Anonymous Sat Nov 17 15:26:14 2018 No.5167545

>>5167428
Prime 3 has good level design but the motion controls and added emphasis on action make everything feel a bit less precise in exchange for speed. It leans far more heavily into FPS territory and away from metroidvania style exploration and adventure compared to the previous two.
The main problem is the atmosphere. The plot is in-your-face instead of environmental or optional, and there is a lot of focus on goofy characters and cutscenes that take away from the lonely Metroid feel and replace it with more of a cartoony superhero/sentai tone.
Prime 3 is very good at what it does, but it's bad at doing a lot of what a Metroid game is usually praised for. It could easily go into a higher tier if you don't mind these changes, because it's a genuinely good game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 15:27:36 2018 No.5167547 >>5167541 Kid Icarus is probably the only game series that has improved with every single game. There's very little debate about this, unlike with most series. It does help that there are so few of them...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 17 15:35:22 2018 No.5167561 >>5167547 >Kid Icarus is probably the only game series that has improved with every single game. SaGa SNES entries are better than their Game Boy ones. And the PS entries are more ambitious than the SNES ones.

Anonymous Sat Nov 17 17:44:39 2018 No.5167774

>>5167418
pretty cool, never noticed that. the breathing effect in the metroid queen part is also kinda neet.

though personally, I somewhat prefer the intense ambiance of the Mother Brain room in M1. The unnerving bubbling combined with shit flying at you from everywhere.... sheesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJbYjYspiLY

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 18 19:38:37 2018 No.5169630 File: 232 KB, 1168x874, 1539545961287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Chozo technology looked way cooler in OG Metroid 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 00:00:40 2018 No.5170023 >>5160628 t. actual unironic retard

Anonymous Mon Nov 19 00:10:34 2018 No.5170028

>>5159849
The issue is that the exact thing that gave it the atmosphere were the reasons the game wasn't very fun to play.
>Ambience was creepy,
BUT
>It was also annoying
>Small zoomed out screen gave you a feeling of clautrophobia
BUT
>It also made it really hard to see ahead of you
>Black backgrounds were eerily empty
BUT
>They were also boring and all areas looked the same
>All corridors were twisted and similar, and something they didn't even follow euclidean geometry
BUT
>This meant a lot of time was spend on wondering where the hell should I go next
>World design was simple and linear with no backtracking so player won't get lost due to complex level design
BUT
>As a result, game doesn't feel as interconnected as it could

Super Metroid is objectively better because they managed to pull off this creepy, dense atmosphere while delivering the game that is fun to play.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 00:13:50 2018 No.5170034 File: 131 KB, 940x972, image%3A8299.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5167561 I like you, faggot!

Anonymous Mon Nov 19 02:04:57 2018 No.5170126
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>>5164947
>The final boss fight in this is so fucking intense, and the way that final section slowly ramps up to it, it's one of my favorite video game moments ever.
Highly agree with you on that. The small screen space makes the fight even more intense, too. Even with full health, it's pretty hard, too, I think. Unless I'm remembering wrong.
>>5170028
I agree with you on all your greentext points, but I still think it does atmosphere better than Super Metroid overall. (Which is a shame, since neither AM2R nor Samus Returns got it right. Still fun, though.)
But I'm mostly thinking of a desolate sort of atmosphere here. Super Metroid does atmosphere well in general, but I like the more cold and bleak atmosphere that Metroid 2 creates, similar to Prime 2 and Fusion, with Dark Aether being the peak of the series in terms of creating a grim and unwelcoming atmosphere, in my opinion.
I don't expect much from Prime 4, but if they can do anything like Prime 1 and 2 did, I'll be a happy boy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 19 14:13:13 2018 No.5170908 >>5169630 Oh shit that's awesome. What's the sauce on this? An art book?

Anonymous Mon Nov 19 15:42:06 2018 No.5171069

>>5170028
>Super Metroid is objectively better
No fuck you for saying this, it's fine to prefer Super better for the reasons you stated, those reasons don't make a game objectively better. There are things Metroid 2 does better than Super like the final boss and creepy atmosphere factor, as well as having different mechanics and it's to the player's discretion which makes for the better gameplay experience, it depends what you value more in a game.

Anonymous Tue Nov 20 00:35:05 2018 No.5171963

>>5171069
Believing Super is the be-all end-all led to them shitting up the ending in Samus Returns. Shoehorning in the long slogging backtrack and Ridley fight completely eliminated M2's feeling of triumph (at beating the Queen) and wonder (at seeing the egg hatch). Not only did it fuck up the ending, it also steals Super's thunder by shamelessly ripping off its own unique plot elements (Ridley kidnapping the baby Metroid, the Metroid defending its mother).

SR had other problems but the whole ending sequence is why I despise it.

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