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How come Sega games tended to have complicated genres of music like Jazz Fusion, Funk, Prog Rock and experimental techno, while on the other hand Nintendo soundtracks tended to be very simple?

>> No.5154104

Top tier 16 bit reggae.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQhYL0qNI8&

>> No.5154115

Well I personally love the techno.

If you don't think this track is awesome, you have no soul


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-zbldrgITU

>> No.5154117

>>5154075
Because the Yamaha chip they used was better at synthesizing realistic instruments whereas Nintendo had more electronic-sounding synths.

>> No.5154118

Cause Sega had people who know how to make music. I mean have you heard the bassline for the Galaxy force 2 soundtrack, sweet jesus is that some good shit.
also Sega philosophy was to try new things and mix up the old.
Nintendo on the other hand wanted consistency

>> No.5154120

>>5154075
How come anons are still trying to reignite the console wars over 25 years after the fact?

>> No.5154121

>>5154118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=win0VX0jsxY

>> No.5154123

Sewer-tier bait.

>> No.5154124

>>5154104
Not enuff variation. Just the same short loop over and over.

>>5154115
Better, but not the knid of music I like. I think the Chrono Trigger OST was one of the absolutely greatest from the 16-bit æra.

>> No.5154125

>>5154120
Cause they have no life other than trying to relive the day in which they did have one... or trolling

>> No.5154126

>>5154120
Because consuming and discussing new stuff involves effort n shit.

>> No.5154127

>>5154118
No, plenty of modern games that don't use electric guitars, and reverb in their soundtracks.
Just a matter of the tech influencing the pick of genre.

>> No.5154130

>>5154127
True, i was under the impression this is Sega's composers vs Nintendo's
not Capcom/Konami on Sega YM 2612 vs Capcom/Konami/Square on Nintendo spc-700

>> No.5154132

>>5154117
>tries to derail thread about facts
>fails

>> No.5154135

>>5154120
>asking a question is console warring


What did he mean by this?

>> No.5154137

>>5154135
The question is loaded with the clear implication that one side in inferior. That console war bait 101.

>> No.5154151

>>5154137
He just said complex vs simple. You saying one is inferior is a judgment call on your part.

>> No.5154162

>>5154151
That implies that sega put in effort while Nintendo didn't.

>> No.5154176

>>5154075
ROOOOOOOAAAAAAAARIIIIIIIING
STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR

>> No.5154180
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5154180

>>5154075

OP I want that picture on my fucking wall.
Pure sex.

>> No.5154185

Because Nintendo was never a serious player in the arcades after early titles like Donkey Kong. The Outrun arcade game, with it's sophisticated sprite scaling, needed equally complex music for the arcade audience compared to console expectations (especially 8 bit bloops pre Genesis Yamaha chip).

The console wars may have been contested, but Sega utterly destroyed Nintendo on the arcade front. Too bad the consoletards here often forget this.

>> No.5154490

>>5154115
that's not techno

>> No.5155214

>>5154124
>muh chrono trigger

>> No.5155249

>>5154185
This turned out to be a good business decision for Nintendo though considering that unironic arcades disappeared after the mid-90s.

Arcade games were always a bit flashy and superficial. Fun for a while but not nearly as deep as a home console experience. I get why lots of people are romanticizing them these days but home is better.

>> No.5155274

>>5155249
>story based movie games and RPGs with shit gameplay are """deep"""

Spotted the faggot that can't 1CC an arcade game

>> No.5155286

>>5155274

How many more times will you keep shitposting, dude?

>> No.5155292

>>5154075
Nintendo also had good, complex themes. You just have to look for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ODKKILZiYY

>> No.5155341

>>5154075
really, I'd just say it's just different source inspirations, like Sega's composers would be listening to casiopea and yellow magic orchestra and shit and trying to make music in that vein

while nintendo's composers were just trying to get something simple and catchy going

>> No.5155406

>>5154075
>Nintendo soundtracks tended to be very simple?
They weren't. They tended to be based off bluegrass.

>> No.5155410

>>5155286
How many times will you keep being a shitter at video games?

>> No.5155434

>>5155249
Sega's arcade division is actually doing pretty well for itself in the west right now, since their only real competition are Namco and Raw Thrills. Even though there are far fewer arcades than there used to be, Sega has a much bigger share of the market now than they have since around the turn the millennium.

>> No.5155891

>>5155341
Nintendo's library seemed to go the way of thematic compositions and bombastic arrangements. Both teams had some serious talent backing them though, something that is sorely lacking today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9-eR4ciHU

>> No.5155908

>>5154115
this song needs the tee lopes treatment.

>> No.5155914

Because SEGA is cool and Nintendo is for families.

>> No.5155930

>>5154075
>Silence isn't based on Space Road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eklH1GxW36s

>> No.5156157

>>5155914
>implying families aren't the coolest thing in the world
Get out of your parents home and be a family man.

>> No.5157560

>>5155292
the best beach

>> No.5159321
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5159321

>>5154075
Someone one this board said the snes chip only makes horn noises. My reaction was “look at this dood”. But since then, whilst playing snes, all I can fucking hear are electronic horns. Damn it.

>> No.5159567

>>5159321
>look at this doot

>> No.5159583

>>5154075
Both consoles had different sound hardware that had different strengths.

>> No.5159594

>>5155292
Not developed by Nintendo though

>> No.5159596

>>5155292
This game always felt like an Amiga game to me

>> No.5159628

>>5159583
One thing I really like about Genesis and synth tunes in general is that I can turn up the sampling rate to 96khz for dat clear treble, SNES uses compressed audio samples which kills most of it sadly

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5159631

>>5159567
Hah,
Super
Nintendo
Electronic-doot
System

>> No.5159645

>>5155214
I hate Chrono Trigger, but he's right. It has basically the best soundtrack of that generation and that is likely a large part of why it's so fondly remembered.

>> No.5159646

>>5154075
>implying nintendo didn't do jazz-fusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BexVyL45DY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PtZtg4wGf4

most first-party SNES games had soundtracks that were jazzy as fuck

hell, Mario music is still jazzy to this day

>> No.5159649

>>5155434
VR is the one thing that could actually revive arcades outside of Japan.

>> No.5159660

>>5154075
Sega generally has better music, except for the donkey kong games
https://youtu.be/wAPpVplHiDE

>> No.5159675

Probably because of the sound chip in the Mega Drive.

>> No.5160281

>>5159646
>Both examples are stuff that's only on the soundtrack CD and not in the actual games themselves

>> No.5161169

>>5159645
>basically the best soundtrack of that generation

Only people that have very limited experience with video games. Which is pretty much anyone who thinks CT is the best game ever.

>> No.5161184

>>5159646
OP said complicated music, not smooth jazz.

>posting arranged music off a fucking CD

>> No.5161217

>>5161169
>Which is pretty much anyone who thinks CT is the best game ever.

I explicitly said I hate it. And I see no counterexamples from anyone.

>> No.5161225

>>5161217
Earthbound.

>> No.5161241

>>5154075
> that jpg
beautiful

>> No.5161246

>>5161217
It isn't even Squaresoft's best. It has a few tracks that might individually be in the running, but overall, Square's Final Fantasy and Saga series had better scores.

>> No.5161250

>>5155249
Back to rpgcodex

>> No.5161307

best Outrun song coming through
https://youtu.be/ZFbiYuiZVwI

>> No.5163441

>>5161307
that is awesome.

>> No.5163451

>>5161184
The OSTs of Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island have a few ragtime songs and Metroid on the NES had some experimental songs like Kraid's theme (the measures are still very different compared to most music of today).

Also I think it's funny how OP states that Sega music is more complicated while I think a lot of Sega games have music that sounds quite simple and poppy to me like Space Harrier, the Phantasy Zone games, the Outrun series and Virtual On (though to be fair, that one was going for a typical anime background music vibe). The only Sega games that had slightly more complicated music are the Sonic games and Altered Beast.

Notice how I only said it's more or less complicated, not that I think whether it should be more complicated or not. If anything I think most game music is perfectly fine as long as it doesn't become annoying after a while, it's not like I expect some classical compositions or avant-garde stuff or anything like that.