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What would be the essential 20-30 games for a theoretical "PC classic mini"?

>> No.5146052

>>5146051
Dan Dolme

>> No.5146081

Liero
C-dogs
Alienphobia
Slicks'n'slide

>> No.5146084

Dom
Dom II
Master Levels for Dom II
Ultimate Dom
Final Dom

>> No.5146090

Douk
Nouk
Kem

>> No.5146091

>>5146051
Gorillabas

>> No.5146093

>>5146051
Rise of the Robots

>> No.5146097

>>5146051
Minesweeper

>> No.5146105

Alone in the Dark
Ecstatica a State of Mind
Harvester

>> No.5146115

>>5146051
30 random dos roms

>> No.5146119

>>5146051
Wizardry iv the return of werdna

>> No.5146131

Dark heart of ukruul

>> No.5146168

microsoft excel

>> No.5146192

Den magiska jordgubben
Mulle Meck Bygger Båtar

>> No.5146202

>>5146052
FPBP
This anon knows what's up!

>> No.5146210

solitaire

>> No.5146250

>>5146081
Based and soumipilled

>> No.5146258

Robosaurs versus the Space Bastards

>> No.5146319

>>5146051
zzt

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5146331

>>5146052

>> No.5146394
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5146394

PC Classic Mini would be highly impractical.
First, all typical PC classics are highly demanding from player games. You can't just promise an easy plug & play solution for PC games and then preinstall highly tactical turn based strategy games that take hours to learn alone, or clunky adventure games that were designed to keep players busy figuring out highly obscure puzzles so they don't feel cheated out of their 20 bucks.
Second, what timeline we are aiming for with this machine? If we're talking '80s, almost all alternative "classic" machines would be superior to PC. If we're talking about '95 and beyond, I bet your computer still can run most of the games even with Windows 10. Which leaves us years 1990-1995, the prime time of hardcore DOS games with keybinds covering 90% of the keyboard.

You know what? Why not make something more focused? How about PC FPS Classics - now it's something I can get behind. The Ultimate Doom/Doom 2/Final Doom with splitscreen to simulate netplay would give people enough entertainment for years, and there are much more good FPS games to put in.

>> No.5146396

There are so many great roms they could choose from, my picks would be:
Keen 1-7
Prince of Persia
Maniac Mansion
Wolf3d
Doom
Quake
Duke Nukem 2
Duke Nukem 3d
Bio Menace
Raptor
Cosmo
Crystal Caves
Battle Chess
Lemmings
Worms
Descent
Masters of Orion
SC2K
Civilization
Scorched Earth
Hocus Pocus
Sky Roads
Boppin
Dune 2

>> No.5146401

X-Com.

>> No.5146407

>>5146051
Any mid 90s shareware cd.

>> No.5146424

>no Oregon Trail yet

>> No.5146430
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>>5146396
stop calling dos games "roms"

>> No.5146446

>>5146051
The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis

>> No.5146450

>>5146430
the super nintendo and the playstation have roms. why can't the dos have roms?

>> No.5146460

>>5146051
deus ex goty
hitman 4
fear
ut99
quake
doom
system shock 2
drugwar

>> No.5146463

>>5146450
because they come in read only media

most of dos games are distributed as compressed archives, most of the games don't even have a proper official disk images so autists like byuu can't get attention by releasing hashes and then hoarding all the games for themselves

>> No.5146481

>>5146463
compressed archives are read only media

>> No.5146486

>>5146481
moron, you know what I am talking about
you're lucky if the "preserved" dos game comes with it's original installer

>> No.5146489

>>5146051
Lords of the Realm
Heroes of Might and Magic 1 or 2
Settlers II
Age of Empires 1
Warcraft 2
Alone in the Dark
DOOM II
Broken Sword 1/2
Goblins

+ 15 random ones

>> No.5146491

>>5146450
The Playstation has isos, and why aren't you just calling them games?

>> No.5146504

>>5146460
most of these arent DOS games

>>5146463
just because we've lost the original dos ROM doesnt mean its a bad term. we hack "ROMS" so they arent even read only!

>> No.5146508

>>5146396
Only serious and good post in this whole thread.

>> No.5146510

>>5146192
baserad och rödpillrad

>> No.5146541

>>5146396
>scorched earth
my African american

>> No.5146548

>>5146394
>If we're talking '80s, almost all alternative "classic" machines would be superior to PC
Unless possibly Sierra adventures.

>> No.5146573

>>5146115
All sharewares

>> No.5146583

>>5146504
>>5146504
Ok, I'll bite. Some bait now and then ain't gonna kill me.
You wanna now why some games are "roms" and some aren't? Cause of the way the data is stored. Simple as that.
ROM chips are different from RAM chips, floppy disks, hard disks, cassette tapes or flash memory. Data is not being written to them - the chips are programmed with the data.
There is mask ROM which is printed with data at the time of manufacture and cannot be changed afterwards.
Then there is PROM, which is a blank rom chip, that can be programmed once with electric pulses.
There is also EPROM which you can erase with UV-Light.
And then there is EEPROM and FLASH EEPROM which can be erased and programmed electrically - the motherboard rom in your pc is one of those.
What matters is that data on floppy disks and hard disks and cds and all that is stored in a different way. The mechanics of storing that data is different just as having a certain file system and formatting is different from data in roms.
Dos games that came on floppy or diskette or cd-rom cannot be "roms". That only works for rom chips in cartridges.
Now there are PC systems with cartridges that have data programmed into rom chips. Images of those can certainly be called roms. But everything else? Nope.

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5146671

Road Rash PC is the best version

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>> No.5146717

I feel like we would need to define eras of PC gaming. Commander Keen is on a very different level than, say, Elite II.

>> No.5146727
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>> No.5146731

>>5146491
Because that's way less triggering than calling them the dos roms.

>> No.5146737
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5146737

Skifree

>> No.5146740

>>5146737
YES

>> No.5146747

>>5146727
Janky fucking euroshmup

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>> No.5146897

>>5146097
>>5146210

My niggers are here.

>> No.5147245
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5147245

treasure mountain

>> No.5147463

>>5146737
>>5146740
>>5146821
Not DOS games.

>> No.5147472

>>5146450
Read wiki on ROM.

>> No.5147474

>>5146583
Thank you

>> No.5147475

Invataxi

>> No.5147503

>>5146081
Triplane Turmoil
Jump'n'Bump
God of Thunder
ZZT
Chip's Challenge

>> No.5147652

>>5147463
Treasure Mountain is DOS.

>> No.5147669

I know they're not as good as Lucasarts adventures like Maniac Mansion, but they were REALLY popular for their time so I say it needs at least one or two of the Sierra adventure games

Maybe one of the KQ games in the 2-5 range?

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5147670

Killer app right here.

>> No.5147678

>>5147670
I don't recognize this rom, what's it called?

>> No.5147681

>>5147503
I'd personally like to see "Mutilated Retard Suicide Simulator'94" that's my favorite classic PC ROM!

>> No.5147703

>>5147678
DONKEY.BAS

It’s the first PC game. By noted game developer Bill Gates.

>> No.5147737

>>5147678
>>5147681
> ROM
PC doesn't use ROMs, you stupid idiots.
>>5147703
> DONKEY.BAS
> By noted game developer
> GAME DEVELOPER
bill gates was not a game developer. along with bill, the game was also programmed by neil konzen.

>> No.5147753

>>5147703
Now THIS is epic! Where I can I procure this dos rom file?

>> No.5147758

>>5147737
>PC doesn't use ROMs, you stupid idiots.
It's a meme some guy is trying to force. Nevermind.

>>5147753
This is him.

>> No.5147760

>>5147753
>dos rom file
what a retard

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5147762

>>5147463
>not dos
Who cares, OP didn't specified for dos-only games.

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5147770

>> No.5147882

>>5146051
Gods

>> No.5147903

>>5147760
Back in the CP/M and early DOS days (1 and 2) DOS along with BASIC was often baked in to the PC's firmware, it wasn't a standalone product.
So depending on the era of PC, a DOS ROM is actually a thing.

>> No.5147910

>>5147903
I'm not aware of any PCs with a ROM DOS other than certain Tandy 1000s.

>> No.5147924

>>5147910
DOS+Basic is built in to a few of the early IBM PCs but the dumb thing is you can't actually access the DOS command line with it, its hardcoded only to run the BASIC interpreter, thus forcing you to boot a DOS floppy to actually have access to it proper. The original 5150 does this.
If I recall correctly some of the Osborne models had CP/M built in to the firmware, but could boot DOS off of a floppy.

>> No.5147969

>>5147924
IBMs had the cassette BASIC yes, but the only PC compatibles with a ROM DOS were the Tandy 1000HX/EX.

>> No.5148004

>>5146394
There are also a million and one possible PC hardware and OS combinations. What do you emulate exactly? A Leading Edge 286 with an EGA card and the revision 2.12 Phoenix BIOS? A Compaq Deskpro 386 with an ESDI hard disk and a revision 3.0 BIOS? The entire tangled mess of IBM PS/2s?

>> No.5148023

>>5147969
What about non-compatibles?

>> No.5148060

>>5148004
There's also the question of what sort of hardware would such a system even be running on?
If it's just a modern x86 box with some low power AMD APU then it might as well just be a purely software release.

>> No.5148103

>>5146450
Are you under the age of 25 or just extremely ignorant?

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>>5146081
Noice.
Needs one more, though: Wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK82B3BjhaA

>> No.5148208

>>5146671
Truer words have seldom been spoken.

>> No.5149247
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5149247

Years ago I had this in an old computer.

>> No.5149270

>>5149247
I dont often meet someone with such a good taste

>> No.5149279

>>5149247
most of these still work on modern systems

>> No.5149405

>>5149247
never need any other games again

>> No.5149408

>>5147670
Somebody should do this for the C64. It would be almost piss-easy. Although I'd recommend assembly language because the C64's BASIC is slower than GW-BASIC.

>> No.5150742

>>5149247
but what was in the "never" folder? Pics of an ex?

>> No.5150747

>>5146051

KZ-Lager Manager
lostboy.exe

>> No.5150841

>>5150742
Neverwinter Nights files and mods to play in a Baldur's Gate 2 themed persistent world.

>> No.5150846
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5150846

This screensaver

>> No.5151031

>>5149408
It does already exist.

>> No.5151056

>>5146051
>What would be the essential 20-30 games for a theoretical "PC classic mini"?

What parameters are we going for here? Early IBM-PC DOS? Late DOS? Windows 9X kernel? Windows NT kernel? Linux gaming?

>> No.5151069
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5151069

QBasic Gorilas
Maze Man
3D Maze Man
Skunny Kart
Kingdom of KROZ
Dangerous Dave
Jill of the Jungle
Word Rescue
Reversi
Zork
Maniac Mansion
Mine Sweeper

>> No.5151078

Those would be perfect for a MS-DOS Classic Mini. For extra epicness they should do a Norton Commander style navigation menu.

>Monkey Island 1&2
>Day of the Tentacle
>Sam and Max
>Indiana Jones and the last Crusade
>Doom
>Duke Nukem 3D
>UFO: Enemy Unknown
>Tyrian
>Stormlord
>Warcraft 2
>Sim City 2000
>GORILLAS.BAS
>NIBBLES.BAS
>Redneck Rampage
>Comanche
>Simon the Sorcerer
>Alien Breed
>Need for Speed
>Lemmings & Lemmings:The Tribes
>Raptor
>Civilization
>Master of Orion 1&2
>Commander Keen series
>Abuse
>Syndicate
>Sim Ant
>Superfrog
>Elder Scrolls
>Desert Strike
>Epic
>MDK
>Age of Empires 2
>Gobliins
>Realms of Chaos
>Jazz Jackrabbit
>Rebel Assault
>Tie Fighter
>Wing Commander
>Z
>Quake
>Fate of Atlantis
>StarCraft
>Descent
>Tomb Raider
>Jill of the Jungle
>Eye of the Beholder
>Alone in the Dark
>Command & Conquer
>Commandos
>Stunts
>Transport Tycoon
>Ultima VII
>Pinball Dreams & Fantasies
>Epic Pinball
>Wing Commander
>System Shock
>X-Wing
>Dune II
>Chaos Engine
>Bio Menace
>OMF
>The Settlers
>Jagged Alliance
>North & South
>Prince of Persia

>> No.5151102

>>5151078
Patrician post.

>> No.5151217

>>5151078
>Superfrog
You do know this is a meme game, right?

>> No.5151226

Doom
Quake
Unreal
Duke Nukem 3D
Monkey Island
Day of the Tentacle
Deus Ex
Half-Life
Fallout 2
Leisure Suit Larry
Thief
Systen Shock II
Baldur's Gate
Diablo
Ultima

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>>5148103
He's pulling your leg.
>>5146394
>>5146460
You're killing me.

>> No.5151317

Link where download they games

>> No.5151335
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5151335

>ctrl+f
>simcopter
>0/0
Have you forgotten?

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>>5146051
Diablo
Diablo 2
Starcraft
Warcraft II
Half Life
Counterstrike
Doom
Doom II
Quake
Quake II
Duke Nukem 3D
Unreal Tournament GOTY
HoMM II
HoMM III
Age of Empires
Age of Empires 2
Carmageddon
Carmageddon 2
Need for Speed
Need for Speed 2
Command and Conquer
Red Alert
Descent
Descent II
Raptor
Demonstar

>> No.5151364

>>5151317
internet

>> No.5152098

>>5146583
>on floppy or diskette or cd-rom cannot be "roms"
>cd-rom cannot be "roms"
>cd-rom

>> No.5152219

>>5151335
my negro