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5135136 No.5135136 [Reply] [Original]

Are the fairies in the Zelda 64 games really just balls with wings or did they just not bother drawing them with a humanoid shape because the model was too small?

>> No.5135138

>>5135136
Yes.

>> No.5135580

>>5135138
Oh yeah?

>> No.5135649

>>5135580

As you said it was probably done both because of technical limitations and because it's visually much easier for the player to follow a ball over a small humanoid shape. I don't think the fairies are meant to be balls with wings but I don't know that for a fact.

>> No.5135658

I can't remember if it was for OoT, or from the beginning of the series, but didn't Miyamoto want to base the fairies off Tinkerbell?

>> No.5135660

The ball is light since fairies glow.

>> No.5135663
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5135663

Wind Waker is the only 3D Zelda to have a humanoid fairy model.

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5135671

Fun fact in a Japanese interview Eiji Aonuma said that the stray fairies from Majora's Mask were supposed to be the model for all fairies in Ocarina of Time but Shigeru Miyamoto stopped him and they used the assets in their next game.

>> No.5135693

>>5135663
Hyrule Warriors Defintive Edition also does.

>> No.5135697

>>5135693
Pitpat is mai waifu

>> No.5135869

>>5135671
Even as far back as OoT he was intent on ruining the series? Damn...

>> No.5135882

>>5135869
Who? Aonuma or Miyamoto? If you're fucking trashing Aonuma I will grab you by the throat.

>> No.5135886
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>>5135136
An early piece of Ocarina artwork shows a fully humanoid fairy, so it's likely that the spherical shape is for two reasons: the first is obviously that it's a lot easier to depict a ball with wings. The second is that Navi is both a character and a gameplay function, so having her be as unobtrusive as possible is necessary. Imagine having a sprite of an actual fairy flying around highlighting points of interest for you with the 64's limited capabilities, it'd look awkward like the Majora's Mask stray fairies.

>> No.5136006

>>5135886
You can depict a human shape with limited resources. It wasn't unlike N64 devs to use flat sprites for 3D objects. It was probably more of a visibility thing.

>> No.5136009

>>5136006
That's what I was saying, the ball looked better. I just also think a humanoid fairy sprite would've looked a lot worse.

>> No.5136025
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>>5135136
The fairies had humanoid bodies going as far back as the first game. The switch in OoT was just for style. It would have been no more resource intensive to have a 2D humanoid sprite vs the 2D ball sprite, unless they wanted to have a ton of animations/emotes for it. In the end someone decided that a detailed sprite was too distracting for something that would spend a lot of time on camera. And it's main function was flying away to highlight stuff anyways, so a color changing dot was much more useful.

Given how Navi, and more so, Tatl actually move and talk to Link with some pretty good expression, I'd like to see them get an actual face to emote with one day. You could probably get a beloved fairy companion into a zelda game for once by basically stealing and inserting Puck from Berserk into one. Actually Puck is probably part of the inspiration for the fairies in OoT and MM at all.

>> No.5137065

ALL DRESSED UP WITH NOWHERE TO GO

>> No.5137067

>>5137065
WALKING WITH A DEAD MAN OVER MY SHOULDER

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5137148

>>5135136
they are humanoid but completely naked and cannot be show on a children game

>> No.5137907

>>5137148
What the fuck in this post tripped my filter?

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>>5135886
They managed to properly illustrate Sparx who performed a similar function in the Spyro series, but then again he wasn't starring in one of the dullest franchises of all time. Seriously each episode following the boy "adventurer" and his pals from Hyrule as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the cartoonish imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of repetitive puzzles, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Nintendo vetoed the idea of a third party producing the games; Miyanoto made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody- just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their annual "party games". The Zelda series might be anti-Sony (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Spyro series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement

>a-at least the platforming elements were good though

"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the exploration was nonexistent. As I played, I noticed that every time Link went to "explore" a largely empty world, Nintendo shoehorned in some repetitive puzzles to pad out the game. I began marking on the back of a Nintendo Power magazine every time I came to the same rehashed box pushing/lever pulling puzzles. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Nintendo's team is so governed by cliches and milking tired franchises ad nauseum that they have no other style of development. Later I watched a lavish, loving Let's Play of The Ocarina of Time by some YouTube manchild. He said something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Ocarina of Time at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to owning a Nintendo Switch." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play The Ocarina of Time you are, in fact, trained to play the same dull Nintendo rehashes decade after decade.

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>>5137932
Ah, what a wonderful post. Thank you, my fellow Sonybro.

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>>5137936
Happy Halloween friend!

>> No.5137943

>>5137932
I appreciate when this copypasta actually has work put into it instead of some memer just changing the introduction. You can always tell they're not nearly as smart as the person who wrote the original copypasta because it's so weak compared to the rest of it. But this copypasta was written by someone with an actual sense of humor.

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>>5137932
you should make a tier list similar to this
it would be perfect

>> No.5137973 [DELETED] 

>>5137943
Thanks anon

>>5137967
Ive had it on a back burner for a while now, I'll need to cook up something here soon.

>> No.5137976

>>5137148
>and cannot be show on a children game

>merican Puritanism.

>> No.5137983 [DELETED] 

>>5137976
This is one of the least censored mass markets for video games. If European nations were the ones publishers were developing for, we'd have some very restricted titles.

There's a reason most art, literature, and film worth consuming comes from the United States or Japan and not Europe.

>> No.5137985

>>5137932
>Spyro
PlayStation sucks it’s only function was to sap the pc games market for 10 years.

>> No.5137987

>>5137943
Was the original Metroid? I bet it was Metroid.

>> No.5137990

>>5135136
You say that like it was a bad thing. The human-looking fairies that showed up in all Zelda medium prior to OOT looked retarded.

>> No.5137993

>>5137983
Because tits? Movies are worse than the have ever been in history and tv is just as bad but edgier. I’m gunna tell you something else video games now are just reskins of previous games for the most part. Red Dead 2 is grand theft horses.

>> No.5137994

>>5137983
Can Americans even write?

>> No.5137995 [DELETED] 

>>5137985
That's not even a jab at the series in question, it's just a lazy generalization about the platform it was on.

>>5137987
The original is about Harry Potter.

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>>5137994
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Being a nationalist is one thing, but claiming ZERO literature of worth has come from the US just outs you as an illiterate.

>> No.5138020

>>5137995
Yes it’s lazy but everyone knows it’s true, so is copy pasta.

>> No.5138154

>>5135869
>>5135882
Both.
Everyone knows Koizumi was the one behind the golden age of Zelda.

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>>5136006
>>5136009
navi is literally a flat object in the game. what the hell are you talking about?

>> No.5138820

>>5137983
I wouldn't say so. In terms of films, I'd say that European film companies are much more comfortable with, for example, depicting nudity in a non-sexual manner, or objectively depicting prostitution and drug abuse.

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>>5135136
>Are the fairies in the Zelda 64 games really just balls with wings or did they just not bother drawing them with a humanoid shape because the model was too small?

You clearly have never played Zelda OoT, OP.

>> No.5139712
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5139712

When I was a kid, I had a thing for that Fairy girl from that DiC Zelda cartoon that aired with the Super Mario Bros Super Show.

>> No.5139715

>>5138430
Well achtually Navi is made up of 3 different 2 dimensional planes. Her body is on one with two others used for each wing individually. Each plane is at an angle to each other making the entire object 3 dimensional by definition.

>> No.5139862

>>5139686
That's exactly why the question you idiot. Because the great fairy is a big woman so it makes you wonder if the fairies are supposed to be people too and they just look like balls because the ball is meant to represent them glowing.

>> No.5141068

THE BALLS ARE INERT

>> No.5141072

>>5139862

in other words you don't have a question, you're just pointing out something extremely obvious and calling people idiots for not praising your observational insights

>> No.5141081

>>5139712

she qt

>> No.5141114

>>5141068
does that mean they don't work?

>> No.5141142

>>5141072
No, you moron.

>> No.5141338

>>5135886
Woah hold the phone is that brown dude on the left a maskless Sheik?
Sheik confirmed man.

>> No.5141343

>>5138820
Maybe if you judge by Hollywood, which maintains maximum profits by pandering to the lowest common denominator.

There are a lot of edgy independent film producers in the US.

>> No.5141350

>>5141114
Hardly anything in this game, part of the dullest series of all time, works. Seriously, each adventure following the assorted pals makes action inert.

>b-but

No!

The puzzles were repetitive and I was incredulous. I'm not being ironic.

>> No.5141363 [DELETED] 

i find it hilarious that a squarefag would call zelda dull

>> No.5141382

>>5141338
I believe it's Impa.

>> No.5141484

>>5141382
What, because of the white hair?
Everything about that character is Sheik except the hair color and lack of a mask.
Also, that looks entirely like a man. I'd even believe it was a cut character before Impa.

>> No.5141498

>>5141484
Let's say it is Sheik, I still don't see how it is a man. The face is quite feminine.

>> No.5141548

>>5137065
WALKIN' THE STREETS ALL ALONE

>> No.5141552

>>5135136
I always figured that they were humanoid but glowed so brightly they appeared as balls of light.

>> No.5141582

>>5141350
Okay, this one was lame.

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>>5141498
It's really not, especially for OoT's artstyle.
Besides, Sheik is a man is pretty well confirmed. Hell, they even changed his voice.

>> No.5141645

>>5135660
Thanks for coming in today.

>> No.5141646

>>5135663
Zelda 1 and 2 did, but the shitty 8 bit limitation kept it from being realistic.

>> No.5141647

>>5135697
What a terrible mascot.

>> No.5141648

>>5135693
Hyrule Warriors is hardly a Zelda title.

>> No.5141668 [DELETED] 

@5141548
never respond to one of my posts again.

>> No.5141695

The fairies in the 64 games do indeed seem to be little more than balls of light with wings. Just look at how the wings are positioned and taper relative to the "body." They seem to connect to the ball and not to some smaller entity shrouded by a glowing energy field.
>>5136025
>The fairies had humanoid bodies going as far back as the first game
True, but to be fair they changed some other established stuff somewhat randomly in OoT, like Octoroks becoming sea creatures and Zoras transforming from aggressive, fire (?) spitting seabeasts into graceful sea people.

>> No.5141728

>>5137987
“No!”

>> No.5141745

>>5141631
What exactly about this image confirms Sheik is a man?

>> No.5141751

>>5141745
Read it again Anon. Closely.

>> No.5141772

>>5135663
game boy zeldas have a vaguely humain shape

>> No.5142253

>>5141631
>>5141745
>>5141751
Sheik is Zelda disguised as a man (still pretty feminine though), but whether or not she used magic to actually genderbend, I'm not sure if that was confirmed.

>> No.5142395
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>>5142253
Well yeah everyone knows that.
To be honest different iterationz of Sheik look to flip-flop on that. OoT Sheik looks like a man for sure, but Hyrule warriors Sheik was very obviously just Zelda. Smash U Sheik seems to be a dude though. Some people have even said that particular Sheik might just be BOTW Link and not Zelda at all since Link looks just like that if you wear Sheik's mask with the sheikah set, but that seems like a stretch.

>> No.5142880

>>5142253
>>5142395
This discussion is older than time itself but I want to know is whether people like to draw art of unclothed Sheik as a man, dick and all. For research.

>> No.5142893

>>5137967
Crime and punishment shakes me to my core

>> No.5143150

>>5142880
I'm sure that's easy to find

>> No.5143507

>>5141695
Octoroks were always supposed to be octopus like things that spit rocks, so becoming sea creatures makes sense. But the truth is that nintendo did, and really still does to this day, change things on a whim. They come up with a new idea for their games, and will remake something that they already have to fit it. They just don't really care to much about giving their games a hard canon or story line. Which is why we have this thread because that attitude still doesn't stop autists from trying to make one.

>> No.5143516

>>5135663
what a happy fairy

>> No.5143529

>>5139686
>you will never be stabbed by those boobs
why even live

>> No.5143563

>>5136025
>Actually Puck is probably part of the inspiration for the fairies in OoT and MM at all.
That's a huge stretch.

>>5137932
Yikes

>>5137976
You're say thing about a Japanese game. You do know in Japan nudity is censored right? It's been that way since the Tokugawa Shogunate. Japanese people also culturally object to intimate displays of affection, which is why you never see characters in romantic anime ever progress pass a hug or kiss (no tongue).

>>5137993
So you are admitting then that the quality of entertainment has very little to do with censorship? Good.

>> No.5143963

>>5143563
>Japanese people also culturally object to intimate displays of affection, which is why you never see characters in romantic anime ever progress pass a hug or kiss (no tongue).
This is an absolute bullshit claim and shows just how little you know of what you're talking about.

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5144086

>>5137148
Naked fairies are cute.

>> No.5144110

>>5135886
Looks like Wilma Flintstone

>> No.5144693

>>5138154
>Koizumi was the one behind the golden age of Zelda.
Ah yes, the genius behind DK Jungle Beat and Flipnote Studio, who didn't work on any Zelda games as a programmer or designer, is behind the series' golden age because of his art and character concepts.
ok.

>> No.5144704

>>5142880
There is an obscene amount of erotic fanfiction featuring Shiek's dick, if that's your jam.

>> No.5145121

>>5144693
You trying to imply Jungle Beat is a bad game, buddy?

>> No.5145260

>>5142253
The 'debate' about this is pretty silly since we have all the facts and they aren't hard to understand. Zelda doesn't change any part of her biology, Sheik is just a disguise. If she had changed sex there wouldn't be any need to wrap her breasts which she's clearly done. Even though Zelda is a biological female, Sheik is intended to be a male persona and is always referred to in game as he and a man. Autists who try to claim Sheik is a girl because the person playing Sheik is a girl are missing the point completely. For all intents and purposes Sheik is a male, a male persona not a biological male.

Actually this thread is surprisingly rational and civil by /vr/ standards. I'm amazed the average intelligence level here is high enough that most people realize Zelda fairies are in fact intended to be small humanoids and not just disembodied balls of light.

>> No.5145263

>>5143563
>That's a huge stretch.
Berserk started in what? 1989? So there's like 9 years for someone to read at least the first few chapters and get the idea. Though Puck only became a character after the first arc so probably not. Really if you want to point at anything, the inspiration should be Tinkerbell.

>> No.5145294 [DELETED] 

>>5145260
>Sheik is just a disguise. If she had changed sex there wouldn't be any need to wrap her breasts which she's clearly done. Even though Zelda is a biological female, Sheik is intended to be a male persona and is always referred to in game as he and a man. Autists who try to claim Sheik is a girl because the person playing Sheik is a girl are missing the point completely. For all intents and purposes Sheik is a male, a male persona not a biological male.

Binary cisgender privilege status: Checked so hard.

>> No.5145363

>>5138154
>>5144693
Koizumi did contribute a lot of what people like in the series. He was adding lore when Miyamoto said the gameplay was more important. He was a programmer (including the Z-Targeting in Ocarina), and a designer of 2D art and 3D models. He wrote or co-wrote the stories of A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, Ocarina and Majora's Mask, and probably more.
And that's not even including all he did for Mario.

>>5145260
>surprisingly rational and civil by /vr/ standards
Well I'm just passing through from other boards...

>> No.5145374

>>5135136
They're too bright to see, so all you see is the light they radiate.

>> No.5145769

>>5145374
That makes sense.

>> No.5146064

>>5137967
>tfw read 4 of them
>still hate reading

>> No.5146135

>>5135671
> literatly just Puck

Glad they used the orbs

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>>5144086

>> No.5146457

>>5146158
If she was this hot I think the number of people complaining about her would have dropped sharply.

>> No.5146464

>>5146064
Well, there's no cure for plebness.

>> No.5146475

>>5141548
Kill yourself faggotleaf

>> No.5146876

>>5139715
Just stop.

>> No.5147230

>>5146876
Shut up

>> No.5148314 [DELETED] 

YO!

>> No.5149252 [DELETED] 

Aha.

>> No.5149260

>>5146876
Gotta love when it replies without its name, as if anyone else is really going to stand up for this waste of space.

>> No.5149306

>>5149260
What are you actually on about? You realize that person is not talking to her, you paranoid fuck?

>> No.5149307

>>5141068

I got you. Piccolo's a wise man.

>> No.5150185

>>5149307
Yeah.

>> No.5150320

>>5149260
t. schizo

>> No.5150426

>>5141772
>says windwaker is the only 3d zelda with humanoid faries
>mentions 2d gameboy games
Please learn to fucking read

>> No.5150491

>>5149306
>>5150320
Shit. This is what I get for attempting to post at 5am with less than 3 hours of sleep under my belt.

>> No.5150949

>>5150491
That's karma, baby.

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>>5143529
>tee hee!

>> No.5151013

>>5150972
>tee hee
>not AAAAAAAHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>> No.5151954 [DELETED] 

Ha.

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>>5145260
Pretty sure the wraps are designed to keep the otherwise loose eye of truth decoration in place. Chest binding doesn't magically give you big masculine pushup pecs and shoulders, and any time Sheik reverts to Zelda on screen it's with triforce magic. Sheik is also brown with red eyes, you can't say there's no biological change. Sheik even has a protrudent brow ridge, which is a distinctly male feature not present on Zelda.

>> No.5152891 [DELETED] 

KOWASU DAROU

>> No.5152919

>>5144693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UaK69l8zko
He really loves ZELDA
https://www.ign.com/boards/threads/not-giving-yoshiaki-koizumi-more-creative-freedom-has-been-1-of-nintendos-biggest-development-crimes.454373722/

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the fairys look the way they do because the primary inspiration to the legend of zelda is the movie Legend (1985)

>> No.5152940

>>5152931
I've been meaning to see that movie (yes I know it wasn't very well received but I don't particularly care), I had no idea it inspired Zelda. That's really interesting.

I'm noticing more and more that Nintendo really seemed to have a fondness for Ridley Scott, what with basically everything in Metroid referencing Alien and Star Fox referencing Blade Runner. I always find it cool when Japan takes direct inspiration from western stuff instead of just kinda ignoring it.

>> No.5152954

>>5152940
I love the movie but i've only ever seen the european release version of it which differs wildly from the US theatrical release albeit being closer to the directors original vision i assume. However it's one of those deals where people often strongly prefer the version they see first. There's 3 distinct versions
US theatrical
European Release
Directors Cut
US version has a score by the band Tangerine Dream which the producers put in for some reason, the film was originally supposed to have a clasical score by Jerry Goldsmith which the european release retains which is the version i grew up with and prefer. I think the directors cut also has the Goldsmith score.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089469/alternateversions

>> No.5153220

>>5152931
>>5152940
>>5152954
I think it's a solid movie, it's more spooky and atmospheric than a standard fantasy style. Kind of a black sheep in Ridley Scott's career, but it has Tim Curry chewing scenery as much as you would hope.
Even though I saw it in a time when I was disinterested in video games I still thought it was very Zelda-like, so it's not surprising if it is an influence. The Zelda series has a mostly European/medieval style with only a bit of Japanese mythology in there. (at least that's the impression I get from them)

>> No.5153570

>>5137148
Fairy porn

>> No.5153571

>>5139686
Not gonna lie but when I was a kid when I first saw this fairy I suddenly got a boner.

>> No.5153578

>>5135136
I'm a little bummed out when I first learned they're not little puffball spirits. I wish every 3D Zelda used them.

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>>5153220
>The Zelda series has a mostly European/medieval style with only a bit of Japanese mythology in there. (at least that's the impression I get from them)

That's how it started off. The NES Zeldas had a lot of crosses in the graveyards, and Link's outfit seemed inspired by Robin Hood's Lincoln green clothes. Hell, Link had a Crusader's cross on his shield!

>> No.5154645 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5155832 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5156225

>>5153975
>lincoln green
Is this the true reason behind Link's name?

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>>5144086
>>5146158

>> No.5156727 [DELETED] 

>>5156304
That is without a doubt one of the most hideous and profoundly disappointing pornographic images I have ever seen.

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>>5156727
I'm sorry.

>> No.5157325

>>5156225
No. Link's full name is actually "Link Oln Park", because his parents were really huge fans.

>> No.5157484

>>5135663
I just realized the fairy isn’t crying, it’s just a little wand.

>> No.5157492

>>5153571
I thought she was creepy. I still remember a dream I had when I was about 5 years old where a woman flashed her tits at me and I got a boner. I didn’t know what flashing was or what tits looked like. I don’t know how my 5 year old brain came up with that imagery.

>> No.5157537

>>5157325
Ah, he's Korean?

>> No.5157585

>>5142395
>>5142253
Just realized from looking at this picture that Sheik's skin tone is completely different from Zelda's so even for people who insist Sheik is a girl there's no denying that Zelda can use magic to completely change her appearance, which lends more credence to the "She can also just turn herself into a man" camp. And side note, being able to give yourself a dick with magic is an amazing power.

>> No.5157625

>>5157585
Another thing, Sheik and Zelda consistently share a voice actress when they both appear.
>https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/characters/Legend-of-Zelda/Sheik/
In SSB when you vertically KO Sheik "he" gives a really high pitched scream.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgDbtMwBuCQ
I know this debate has gone on for 20 years but it will go on forever.

>> No.5157972 [DELETED] 

WHAT?! TREATING WOMEN WITH RESPECT? FUCK ROCKSTAR, HOW DARE THEY, THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE, I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT ON /V/

>> No.5157979

>>5137932
Your part about OoT's quality is accurate as fuck. I played it immediately when it came out after playing similar games before it like Mystical Ninja and Quest, and it was/is indeed dull as fuck. Majora's Mask fixed a lot of its issues and is contrariwise still an amazing game (unlike any other Zelda game of Aonuma's, sadly).

>> No.5157984

>>5141648
Fuck you. It is a Zelda title in everything but canon (to not screw up future stories)

>> No.5158145
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5158145

>>5141548

>> No.5158175

>>5135136
>how to tell someone is underage and doesn't know what its like to play a game in 240p on a 20-inch-screen via composite signal
There would have been no point. You wouldn't have been able to make anything out.

>> No.5158235

>>5158175
And how old are you?

>> No.5158263

>>5158235
32-year-old boomer.

>> No.5159416

>>5158263
That's not even that old, dude.

>> No.5160146

Fucked up how a goblet is a cup and not a tiny goblin.

>> No.5161540 [DELETED] 

hm.

>> No.5162396 [DELETED] 

Mm.

>> No.5163480 [DELETED] 

Very interesting!

>> No.5163496

>>5153571
She also gave me funny feelings as a young kid.

>> No.5163548

>>5137932
This is legit one of the worst takes I've ever seen. You call Ocarina dull, and SPYRO is your example of what it should aspire to? Spyro!?

>> No.5163579

>>5163548
I don't think he actually believes it, it seems to be a meme and memes tend to involve representing good things as bad and bad things as good. For example there are lots of memes saying Donald Trump is smart which as we all know is false.

>> No.5163583

>>5163579
There are also lots of memes claiming that traps aren’t real women and that it’s gay if you want to suck and fuck them which we all know is also false

>> No.5163587

>>5163583
Indeed, very good example.

>> No.5163740

>>5138154
This guy know what he's talking about.

>> No.5164764 [DELETED] 

Hue

>> No.5164831

>>5163548
Yeah, Spyro is a quality, immersive, 3D game with unique puzzles and a populated overworld that imparts a sense of exploration.

>>5163579
>>5163587
>>5163583
Why did so many Sega and Nintendo fans grow up being weird sexual deviants?

>> No.5164856

>>5164831
>Why are Sonic fans into weird shit?

Gee, you tell me.

>> No.5164859 [DELETED] 
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5164859

>>5164831
Explain how wanting to suck girl cock is sexually deviant again?

>> No.5164863 [DELETED] 

>>5164859
FUCK OFFFFFF OKAY? NOBODY CARES. FUCK OFF.

>> No.5164865 [DELETED] 

>>5164863
Found the transphobe

>> No.5165228 [DELETED] 

Yikes.

>> No.5166325 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5167083 [DELETED] 

Americlaps

>> No.5168310 [DELETED] 

AMERICLAPS

>> No.5168329

>>5157625
Sheik has a deep voice in SsBU.
But voice pitch in videogames hardly has any bearing on gender, I would take that as a nice little detail that connects Zelda to Sheik. I still think Sheik is a man, no amount of mental gymnastics can make

>>5142395

read as "That's just Zelda in a different outfit, her body is still the same."

>> No.5168332

I'll just leave this here.

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/blog/index.html?category=cat02_fighter_16

>> No.5168343

>>5168329
>>5168332
And on the very same website:
https://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/characters/sheik.html
Every pronoun is "her". You just can't trust Sakurai. Someone who worked on Ocarina must know the answer...

>> No.5168371

>>5168332
>>5168343
>>5168329
It is entirely possible that the Sheik in SSBU is meant to be a different person from the Sheik in the other SSB games and that's why the pronouns changed, but SSB is very minimalist with its lore so that's yet another thing we can only speculate on. Additionally I am aware that the Japanese language does not necessarily use gendered pronouns so I don't know what the Japanese description says but it is also possible that the translator may have taken liberties.

I can usually tell in movies and games and such when a woman's voice is being disguised to sound like a man's, but it would be interesting to know whether they actually gave Sheik a male voice actor in SSBU. Unfortunately as far as I can tell the voice actor does not seem to be known, but that's also interesting because Sheik has previously had the same voice actor since Melee so there are some implications to having changed that.

>> No.5168451

>>5168343
>brawl

Outdated info.
Smash is barely relevant anyway, I was just pointing out that they seem to have changed their stance

>> No.5168458

>>5168371
I wouldn't be surprised. Sheik clearly has a different VA in ssbu, voice sounds much deeper. Might even be Link's VA by the sound of his grunts.

>> No.5168617

how this thread went from talking about fairies to shrek dick?

>> No.5168632

>>5168329
yeah, I think that Sheik was supposed to be Link's sidekick in his journey or something. But since OoT is a clusterfuck in development, they just pasted Sheik into Zelda thing. They were never the same in development.

>> No.5168634

>>5168617
>How did a thread discussing Zelda branch off into more Zelda discussion?
Gee, a mystery for the ages.

>> No.5168738
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5168738

>>5168371
>Japanese language does not necessarily use gendered pronouns
Huh, fair enough.
>>5168451
No one should take SSB as any franchise's canon, it's just more to speculate on since he/she doesn't pop up that much.

>> No.5168998
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5168998

>>5168738
This interesting tidbit was found in the files for Majora's Mask 3d.

>> No.5169004

>>5168998
That would be strange for ganondorf, since his face was on the moon.

>> No.5169006

>>5168632
They weren't? Where did you hear that?

>> No.5169007

>>5169004
It'd be cool to see their terminian counterparts just relaxing and fishing though. I wonder what their dialogue might have been.

>> No.5169041

>>5168998
I'd like to find Sheik's tidbits, if you know what I mean.

>> No.5169051

>>5169006
I have some theories about Zelda...

I actually have proofs of some stuff... like the Shadow Temple actually having parts of the Wind Temple and the Wind Temple becoming the Forest Temple...

The Wind is the true nature of Lost Woods, but that concept was lost... but that came back in breath of the wild...

The Temple of light being remade into the Temple of time...

I think that half of the Spirit temple (the light puzzles) were part of the light temple...

Zelda went through three directors, a lot was lost and remixed. Specially when Miyamoto step in and demanded for Link to be a child.

I think that the Rito race was supposed to be the Wind Sage with Rauru.

>> No.5169058

>>5169051
I meant with Kaepora Gaebora.

>> No.5169075

>>5169058
Miyamoto and to some extent Aunuma need to stay away from Zelda and let Koizumi do what he does.

>> No.5169081

>>5141647
Mascot? She's just one of the fairies you can get in HW.

>> No.5169093

>>5169075
yes

Miyamoto needs to retire.

>> No.5169130
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5169130

>>5157979
>mystical ninja

now THAT was a game
da da dash!

>> No.5169174

>>5135136
>implying 64 faeries weren't narcissistic little shits and that's why they would rather glow too brightly to have their humanoid bodies seen.
There's a reason people get pissed at them.

>> No.5169197

>>5169075
Funny thing is, after the two of them worked on the N64 Zeldas together, Koizumi took over the Mario show.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tuCpcjbKxk

>> No.5169267

>>5169093
I don't know what Miyamoto even does anymore. He hasn't felt like he has genuinely had any influence on Nintendo in multiple decades.

>> No.5169294

>>5169267
He's in a hands-off position, just like executive producers of movies, or like Stan Lee was for all of Marvel.
>supervising director of Star Fox Zero
That sounds like the closest he's been involved in years.

>> No.5169308

>>5169294
I just miss surreal fever dream zelda with horror elements

>> No.5169317

>>5169294
and destroying 3DS paper mario.

>> No.5170082 [DELETED] 

>>5137148
*BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP* *BRAP*

>> No.5170119

>>5169308
It's odd to think how frightening Koji Kondo's music used to be and then to compare it to the music he does now. The guy's musical range is impressive.

>> No.5170819 [DELETED] 

Wow.

>> No.5172025

>>5152368
That Sheik (and OoT art) has manly pecs and physique but some others like this >>5168738 (the most recent one) are much more feminine. I guess even the staff can't decide.

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5172105

>>5172025
The hunch is throwing you off, mate. This is not feminine.

Brawl and Hyrule warriors had pretty feminine Sheiks though, but the only Sheik that matters is OoT/fishingman2.

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5172663

>>5172105
I'm not ruling out that she actually transforms into a man. Maybe in some continuities she's all lady under there, but some are genderbent. (you know Japanese media and their girly men) But even in that Ultimate pic she clearly has a female body.
>>5145260
>If she had changed sex there wouldn't be any need to wrap her breasts which she's clearly done
It seems like the level of androgyny keeps changing over time to throw everyone off.

>> No.5172678

>>5172105
>>5172663
Just had an idea.
>Ultimate Sheik is Link in the Sheik costume
>Link uses magic to transform into a woman

Is this more hot or less hot than Zelda using magic to transform into a man?

>> No.5172706
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5172706

>>5172678
>Zelda turns into crossdressing Link on a dime
>It's magic I ain't gotta explain shit

>> No.5172713

>>5172663
I agree regarding Brawl and Hyrule warriors.

Smash 4 was a bit more androgynous, and I have to disagree when it comes to smash U, especially with the changed voice and Nintendo referring to him/her as a man. Just looks like a muscular chest in Ultimate. Wrapping isn't exactly confirmation of anything, and for the record yes, men wear those wraps too.

Worth noting that Hyrule Warriors cast are completely new characters and that's an entirely different Sheik.

>> No.5172716

>>5172706
Link's not crossdressing though, even if Sheik was just Zelda in a change of clothes they would still be men's clothes.

>> No.5172717

>>5172706
What's really interesting about this costume is that in BotW, where we definitely know that it's just Link, the waist is undoubtedly a woman's waist. What do you suppose is going on there?

>> No.5172723 [DELETED] 

>>5172717
It's not a woman's waist men have hips and thighs too and smaller men can look like that.
That's literally my body type, I have a 28 inch waist and that's how I look in tight clothing.

>> No.5172832

>>5172717
>, the waist is undoubtedly a woman's waist.
I've found that strange too.

>> No.5173048 [DELETED] 

>>5172723
Sounds nice. You know you can make a lot of money as a twink, there's a high demand for them.

>> No.5173146 [DELETED] 

>>5173048
Hard pass, that sounds gross.

>> No.5174178 [DELETED] 

>>5173146
I guess some people don't like free money.

>> No.5174747

Yyyep.

>> No.5175813 [DELETED] 

Yup.

>> No.5176520 [DELETED] 

You talk the talk. Do you walk the walk?

>> No.5176603

>>5135136
>lets waste polygons and resources on animated 3D models that you'll be able to see all of 3 pixels of

Glowing ball gets the job done and is arguably more visibly apparent which is the entire purpose of the fairy.

>> No.5177168

>>5176603
They would obviously have just used a 2D sprite for the fairy if they made it human shaped. You know, like the glowing ball already is.

>> No.5177846

So, who else is mad?

>> No.5178782 [DELETED] 

Mad.

>> No.5179618

Inquiring minds wish to know.

>> No.5180124 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5180874 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5180882 [DELETED] 

>>5135671
fun fact: go back to rebblit you fucking faggot

>> No.5181632 [DELETED] 

>>5180882
Fun fact: Yikes.

>> No.5182650 [DELETED] 

Yeah.

>> No.5182714

>>5137967
>Rand in god tier
wew lad

>> No.5182761

>>5182714
It's a meme image, worst books are at the top and best books are at the bottom.

>> No.5183452 [DELETED] 

No way, Jose!

>> No.5184043 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5184791

Wah.

>> No.5184878

>>5184791
Why bump? This has lasted almost a month, there's nothing else to talk about.

>> No.5184926

>>5184878
There's always more to talk about with Zelda. Zelda's lore is vast and deep.

>> No.5185140

>>5135136
>>5177168
By using a glowing ball, they can get away with using just one sprite and pretending that she doesn't always face you (see, her wings turn around and shit). If they used a humanoid sprite, they would've needed a sprite for each horizontal angle, and animations for all of those.

>> No.5185143 [DELETED] 

GM Cuts 15% Jobs. Trump fuck yeah. Think what Happens to Harley Davidson.

>> No.5185152

>>5185140
Sure, but Ocarina of Time was not really a game known for cutting corners. Besides that, sprites weren't really that detailed on the N64 anyway. I'd attribute it more to being a stylistic choice than wanting to do less work.

>> No.5185162

>>5185152
Yeah, it probably is a stylistic choice, but I wouldn't say that they didn't want to cut corners. I mean, we still don't know what the beta of the game was like and what it was going to be like before some changes were made. Maybe they were going for something even more ambitious, we may never know. My point is, they do cut corners, they always do because they have to. That's why the games change from planning to the final product.

>> No.5185226

>>5144693
>implying Jungle Beat isn't fun as all fuck
How much of a fag are you?
And besides, he was behind almost as much of it as Miyamoto. Where he was involved in the core gameplay, Koizumi was in charge of the worldbuilding and programming the gameplay. Equal contributions in the end.

>> No.5185229

>>5153571
Me too but then she shrieked and it went away.

>> No.5185271

>>5185229
She shrieked at literally the same time she appeared so that would be the quickest boner of all time.

Frankly I find it odd that people were actually turned on by her, she looks so pointy and gross. You know who really is bonerific from around the same time period? Shiva from Final Fantasy VIII.

>> No.5186314 [DELETED] 

STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD

>> No.5187408

>>5185271
That is so true.

>> No.5188784

Feckless.

>> No.5189548 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5189579

>>5164831
>a populated overworld
None of the Spyro hubworlds were populated (the one or two moneybags buys don't count).
Also, need I remind you of the Subway image?

>> No.5189581

>>5189579
Oh fuck, I actually know the image you're talking about. I didn't want to remember that. I had successfully kept it out of my mind for years. Urgh.

>> No.5189974

>>5157484
me too

>> No.5190372

>>5189974
Forgot your hashtag

>> No.5190505

So was there a Sheikah civil war at some point which resulted in spreading out and integrating into other societies? Eyes show up on a lot of different things and even the village that should be their homeland only has Impa with most the population being normal Hylians.

>> No.5191290

>>5190505
The Sheikah were supposed to be virtually extinct by OoT, with Impa one of the last of them. Kakariko was uninhabited until she opened it to the Hylians.

>> No.5191312

>>5191290
I am glad she opened Kakariko's borders and welcomed in a diverse culture.

>> No.5191323

>>5191312
OoT was all about the triumph of multiculturalism over fascism. Look at the Sages. A Kokiri, a Goron, a Zora, a Sheikah, a Gerudo, and a FUCKING WHITE MALE. Only together could they overcome evil.

>> No.5191332

>>5191323
With every race lusting after link cock

>> No.5191346

>>5191332
Even Darunia? Huh.

>> No.5191808

>>5158145
Is that dave mustaine?

>> No.5192061

>>5137967
cringe

>> No.5192180

>>5191346
Darunia isn't a race, anon.

>> No.5192545

>>5192180
There aren't any female Gorons, Brandon.

>> No.5193652 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKdeB102so4

>> No.5194986 [DELETED] 

Ha.

>> No.5195045

>>5135671
>Shigeru Miyamoto stopped him
"No... datto rook retaadedu"

>> No.5195092

>>5192545
And?

>> No.5195147

>>5195092
Brandon, please.

>> No.5195230

>>5195147
Who the fuck is Brandon?

>> No.5195364

>>5195230
Who the fuck isn't Brandon?

>> No.5196147

Well, Brandon?

>> No.5197271

Brandon?

>> No.5197783

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDON!

>> No.5197801

>>5169051
>>5169058
Pretty sure Kaepora Gaebora and Rauru are the same being

>> No.5197810

>>5197801
Just looked it up on the wiki and it seems this is canon. That is weird, I do not remember knowing this. The wiki cites Hyrule Historia as the source, but is that the first time it was revealed, or is this some minutiae that's mentioned in the game that I've just forgotten because it's been so long?

It makes a lot of sense because I was trying to remember what the fuck Rauru actually does in the game, every other Sage has some strong connection to Link. So him being Kaepora Gaebora explains a lot because Kaepora Gaebora has a pretty large presence in the game.

>> No.5198790

Hm.

>> No.5198860

>>5182761
>best books at the bottom
I assume there are shit book series mixed at the bottom to make more people assume it's legit, because Harry Potter certainly is not god-tier. It's alright children's literature but it doesn't have the substance to hold up in adulthood, and J.K. Rowling has proved the quality that these books did have to be a fluke with everything coming out after Deathly Hallows.

>> No.5198878

>>5197810
If I recall right one of the gossip stones hint that gaebora is a sage.

>> No.5198993

>>5198860
Really? Because the books she wrote under a different name were pretty well received despite nobody knowing it was her. Sure I've heard Cursed Child is pretty crappy but it's a play so I'd chalk that up to playwright not being her calling.

>> No.5199023

>>5198993
Supposedly she was involved in both Cursed Child and that new Crimes of Grimwald movie that I hear is terrible but admittedly haven't seen. Her main problem is that she likes inserting a bunch of new lore that wasn't ever remotely hinted at in the books. The big new one is that Voldemort's snake was ACTUALLY a polymorphed Korean woman. What does this add to the story? I have no idea! She does shit like this all the time, just dumping new information on her Twitter even though it hardly affects anything, was never hinted at, and nobody asked, because she wants to stay relevant.

I again think the original seven Harry Potter are alright as teen literature, I read it as a kid/teen as they came out and was enraptured by them, but it is not "greatest series ever made" tier, not even close.

>> No.5199056

>>5199023
While I'm not going to try and defend all the dumb things she's done to the lore, I can't really blame her for it because people are addicted these days to learning every little tidbit about the lore of a fantasy series that they can, hence why people were so mad at the way Disney dumped out all the Star Wars lore that had been building up for decades and created their own continuity. So it's more like, of course she would, because there's an interest in it.

But like I said, I would contend that The Casual Vacancy and the Cormoran Strike novels are proof that Harry Potter wasn't just a fluke and that she has genuine talent as a writer. She just needs to finally leave the Wizarding World alone and focus that talent on something else.

>> No.5199076

>>5199023
she's horrendous at consistent world building, she's decent at plot especially in the context of a relatively mystery oriented series
as you say they're good children/teen literature and it would be a shame if she actually tanks whatever legacy they will have in the future on their own merit because of overexposure now

>> No.5199479

>>5199023
Though I have not seen it either and am not a fan of the Nagini retcon, I will say I am also hesitant to dismiss the movie as terrible just because the critics say it is. From what I've been seeing, the people saying this are the same people who have been hailing The Last Jedi as some masterpiece of subversive storytelling. Which it isn't. It played it safe in every sense and the critics had the audacity to act as if it didn't.

I did watch FB1 last year and it wasn't amazing or anything but I didn't find it to be unenjoyable either. It felt like they didn't have enough of a story to fill an entire movie with and was created as an excuse to show off an assortment of magical creatures that were mentioned in the books but hadn't been put to film yet. And that was entertaining enough, but I'm much more interested by the second one's apparently increased focus on Grindelwald. So I will watch FB2 with an open mind at some point.

>> No.5199724

>>5146064
Don’t worry, any list with Ayn Rand not in shit tier is a shit tier list

>> No.5200062

>>5199724
>implying she isn't god tier

>> No.5200071

>>5200062
It wasn’t an implication, it was a blatant statement

>> No.5200091

>>5200071
>blatantly stating she isn't god tier

>> No.5200790

AYN FUCKIN' RAND

>> No.5201575

>>5153975
But why the lack of pants?

>> No.5201674
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5201674

>>5201575
Sometimes it's tights, sometimes... not much.

>> No.5201783

>>5197810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUHzZY6zAVY
The video was made in 2010 before the confirmation.

>> No.5202467

>>5201674
Frankly this comic is a little out of character for Midna, you know she'd absolutely be into that.

>> No.5202481
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5202481

>>5202467
Katie writes them out of character just for comedy. This Link is kind of an airhead. I imagine he sounds like Dave the Barbarian.
Marth and Roy are completely different since their personalities were unknown at the time of Melee.

>> No.5202487

>>5202481
Oh yeah, I'm well aware of that but I just wanted to put the statement out there.

I think her Marth is great, I wish that was his actual personality.

>> No.5203417
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5203417

>>5135136
Whatever they are, they sure are tasty.

>> No.5203626

>>5135663
also a link to the past

>> No.5203632

>>5203626
Yep, A Link to the Past sure is a great 3D Zelda.

>> No.5204841 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5205421 [DELETED] 

Yep.

>> No.5205505

>>5135663
Majora's Mask stray fairies you clown

>> No.5206430

>>5205505
>humanoid

>> No.5207429 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5207431
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5207431

>>5139712
whoever designed the characters in this show is a hero

>> No.5208634

>>5207431
Or a villain for teasing us with something we'd never see again.

>> No.5209532 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5209926

>>5168458
>>5168329
Okay, having played SSBU I have to say that Sheik's voice, while deeper than previously, still sounds higher pitched than Link's and is likely still a girl's voice. Frankly I think a lot of people would be pretty mad if they suddenly gave Sheik a man's voice after five games.

>> No.5210012

>>5207431
I had a thing for her too.

>> No.5211371 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5212372 [DELETED] 

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.5213025 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5213035

Jealous horny fairy girl is the best archetype

>> No.5213052

>>5213035
Who does this describe?

>> No.5213057

>>5213052
The fairy from Legend of Zelda cartoon.

>> No.5213062

>>5213057
Wait, Legend of Zelda had a cartoon?

>> No.5213070

>>5213062
Hell yeah. Link was always trying to get laid by Zelda. Zelda was always too busy being responsible and shit. The fairy wanted the d from Link. She'd cuck Zelda by blowing shit up or something anytime they'd almost kiss and tell Link to forget about that loser.

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>>5213062
WELL EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME PRINCESS

>> No.5213738

>>5213062
I think the CDi games were kind of a spinoff from it. Though the animation and voices got worse...

>> No.5215378 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5217031

>>5213070
>>5213078
>>5213738
Very interesting...

>> No.5217847 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5218860 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5219894 [DELETED] 

Hm...

>> No.5221149 [DELETED] 

Hm...

>> No.5222221 [DELETED] 

Hm...

>> No.5222239

>>5217847
>>5218860
>>5219894
>>5221149
>>5222221
Please stop ghost bumping.

>> No.5222260

>>5142395
>but Hyrule warriors Sheik was very obviously just Zelda
I still don't understand why she did that.
I mean, I get that they wanted Sheik in the game somehow, but Zelda disappears during the first battle of the war, which they were winning handily, and shows up in the next level in disguise for next to no reason.

>> No.5222798

>>5222260
I don't know much about it but isn't it some kind of non-canon crossover of multiple timelines? Like how there's 3 Links in SSBU, and Zelda can't turn into Sheik because they're different people. Zelda is the one from LttP.

>> No.5222923

>>5222798
Yeah, the main story(which is a pretty good story honestly) has it's own universe's Link, Zelda/Sheik, and Impa, OOT Darunia and Ruto, Fi from SS, and TP Midna and Agathia, then WW Tetra and the King of Hyrule at the very end.

It calls itself a "celebration" of Zelda than an attempt to jam itself somewhere in the timeline.

>> No.5223104

>>5137932
>Zelda thread
>ctrl + f 'dullest'

ah there we go

>> No.5224195

>>5163548
Spyro is fun just to run around in.
OoT is dull.
Not even the same anon, i just find your bafflement baffling.

>> No.5224209

>>5224195
OoT is not dull.

>> No.5224212

>>5224209
opinions

>> No.5224215

>>5224212
Well it's fucking stupid when you just post "OoT is dull" without any reasoning to back it up so I responded in kind. Put some effort into your opinion and I'll put some effort into mine.

>> No.5224221

>>5224215
theyre opinions, i dont feel the need to explain mine nor do you need to explain yours. you enjoy the game and i dont. i just dont think saying sypro is more fun/less dull was that crazy of a statement is all.

Syro was designed around simply running around being fun.
Meanwhile traversal and getting from point a to point b was one of the most tedious aspects of OOT

>> No.5224228

Weren't the glowing fairies chosen as a means to show where other Kokiri were located, and potentially to hide poor LOD? I remember reading something like that, which does seem plausible but fairies are only used for one part of the game.

>> No.5224234

>>5224228
The whole Z targeting is fucking useless now that I think about it. Not once did I have any doubts about distinguishing what's an enemy from a checkable object from a talkable NPC.

>> No.5224256

>>5224234
Z targeting is less about that and more about having a lock-on feature, which is useful in a combat centric game. It also eliminates annoying edge cases where you cannot line yourself up perfectly with something to check it because Z targeting lets you easily walk right towards it.

>> No.5224265

>>5224256
Reminder that Megaman Legends, Tomb Raider, Virtual On, Armored Core all had circle strafing lock-on before OoT

>> No.5224280

>>5224265
Actually the lock on in Megaman Legends locks you into a single spot, so you have to choose to use the game's auto-aim as you strafe or use lock-on and stay in place.

>> No.5224305

>>5224265
Tomb Raider's is implemented so much better. I hate how the camera completely fucks you in OoT when you lock on, you have no idea where the ledge is or the other enemies in the room are. It doesn't really matter because the combat in the game is brainlessly easy, but with the regenerating enemies in dungeons it gets really old really fast accidentally falling into a room below because the z targeting gave you a camera angle facing up from Link's feet or something weird like that, and now you have to waste 5 minutes dealing with regenerating enemies and slowly climbing back up to where you've been. It's one of the fundamental flaws in the game.

>> No.5225336 [DELETED] 

H.

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>>5160146

>> No.5227038

>>5224305
I don't recall that ever being a problem with OoT.

>> No.5228269 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5229481 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5229504

https://spnati.net does a good job on the "ball of light" thing, see page 24

>> No.5230682

Finally.

>> No.5231878 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5232601

>>5229504
I can't believe I'm saying this about a fucking flash porn game, but that's always how I pictured her as a kid. A tiny blue person with huge wings that emits magical glowing particles kinda like a lightbulb.

>> No.5232968

>>5229504
>this fucking insane selection of characters
What on earth?

>> No.5233342

>>5137967
>One hundred years of solitude
>low tier
>1984
>high tier
I will fucking damage you for making or saving this shitty high school reading list, son

>> No.5233354

>>5139686
who else was 10 and after seeing the great fairy thought "oh so these are what the adults call whores"

>> No.5233356

>>5233354
you just know intuitively, man

>> No.5233369

>>5224256
also it lets the enemy AI know which one you are fighting so that they can wait while you engage them one-on-one, they were inspired by korean duel movies or something

>> No.5233373

>>5135136
It's an aesthetic leitmotif

>> No.5233376

>>5233342
Does this board exist in a time capsule independent from the rest of the site? It's a shitty image, yes, but how on earth have you not seen it before?

>> No.5233381

>>5233376
>Does this board exist in a time capsule independent from the rest of the site?
That's literally what this board is, yeah.

>> No.5233615

>>5233342
>being triggered by that old trolling-picture in 2019-12days

>> No.5233868

>>5233376
>Does this board exist in a time capsule independent from the rest of the site?
Do you? There's always people replying to that image and its variations, no matter where's posted.

>> No.5234858 [DELETED] 

Hrm.

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>> No.5236065

>>5141646
>>5141772
>>5203626
>3D

>> No.5236093

>>5195045
lol'd I hope this happened

>> No.5236145

>>5146457
How is this "hot"? Would you fuck a Smurf?

>> No.5236153

>>5236145
Difference between this is a Smurf is that Smurfs have big-ass noses that really decrease the appeal but if they didn't have those noses then I would certainly find a girl Smurf hot.

However I would not fuck an improved Smurf or Navi because they are barely larger than a human penis so I think the attempt would kill them and I would not want to do that. So I would just admire her beauty instead.

>> No.5236601

>>5236153
So you're anti-semitic...

>> No.5236646

>>5235561
I like it

>> No.5236678

>>5138430
Looks like a hunting trophy. Morbid As Fuck.

>> No.5237629

>>5236601
No, I like Vanellope.

>> No.5238268 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5238834

Hm.

>> No.5238856

>>5238834
Oh, crap.

>> No.5240163

>>5237629
Well, that's nice.

>> No.5240170

>>5135663
RELEASE

>> No.5240179

>>5182761
>Tolkien better than Don Quixote
Yikes.
Don't know what Rand's crap is doing in top tier though.

>> No.5240190

>>5240179
Rand has always been someone who pisses off literati, to the extent that when /lit/ was first created, there was a specific rule that said "Do not discuss Ayn Rand." Which, naturally, I ignored.

>> No.5240340

>>5135663
A link between worlds has 3d fairies

>> No.5240371

>>5157585
Same reason tetra loses her tan in wind waker

>> No.5240416

>>5240371
Yeah.

Man, what if Tetra was a boy and she still turned out to be Princess Zelda? That would be really hot and she probably wouldn't have had that dumb piece of hair sticking up as a boy. I am going to go see if there is art of this.

>> No.5240613

>>5240179
Because this is 4chan. She's extremely popular with the kind of people who fester under rotting logs like this.

>> No.5240636

>>5240613
I wouldn't say she's popular, but since this is 4chan you are bound to find plenty of contrarians who will tell you she's so good and the "mainstream" just doesn't get her.

>> No.5241142

Good ol' Ayn.

>> No.5241430

>>/vr/thread/S5135136

The ghostbumper should get a permaban

>> No.5241469

>>5241430
Lol, this guy sounds mad.

>> No.5242652

>>5241430
ghostbumper?

>> No.5243116

>>5242652
A Hind D?

>> No.5243612

>>5242652
>bump thread with crap posting
>delete post
>thread remains bumped

>> No.5243982

>>5243612
What a despicable strategy. People who do that should be punished severely.

>> No.5245410 [DELETED] 

Damn them.

>> No.5245514

>>5243612
>????
>profit

>> No.5246125 [DELETED] 

>>5245514
Margins?

>> No.5246134

>>5242652

He bumps with "Hm." and then deletes it. I would pay good money to see many /vr/ shitposters dead.

>> No.5246140

>>5246134
>I would pay good money to see many /vr/ shitposters dead.
Here's to hoping that God ends you soon, creep. Ooh someone bumped a thread, they sure deserve death. Fucking retard.

>> No.5246149

>>5246140
Watch out, he's going to call you the bumper now. They're so predictable.

>> No.5246151

>>5246140

Degenerates using "God", that's rich. Your time is coming.

>> No.5246152

>>5246151
>>>/pol/

>> No.5246157

>>5246152

>>>tumblr

>> No.5246194

>>5246157
Newfag doesn't know how to link lol

>> No.5247113

Tch.

>> No.5248020 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5249573 [DELETED] 

Hm.

>> No.5249595

>>5137932
Should I tell them?