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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5110716

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...

Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief: https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
Contains infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0


IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

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>Doom babbies
:^)

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>>5116751
=== ONGOING ===

-100 minutes of /vr/ underway
-Organizer currently has not set a deadline for the project

-Some elements in the OP (not the news) need some updating
-Quaddicted no longer blocking EU IPs, still seeking help for GDPR compliance

=== NEWS ===

[10-19] New DOOM64 megawad "Beta 64" -- for DOOM 64 EX engine; not GZDoom!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102849-beta-64-a-29-level-megawad-for-doom64-ex/?tab=comments#comment-1928807

[10-19] Deepdream Doom v1.1 and Deepdream Chex v1.0 is out.
https://www.mediafire.com/?z7wrmazotn6ws

[10-18] DM4Jam DLC Update released, three extra maps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61644

[10-10] DavidN is making BD less of a clusterfuck
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62203

[10-09] SM188 released, made with and using features from the recent progs_dump devkit
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61639

[10-06] XUMP - Hexen Upstart Mapping Project released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101939-hexen-upstart-mapping-project-released/

[10-05] Doom 64 EX community project announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102637-doom-64-ex-community-project-announced/

[10-02] Quake Champions audio ripped and shared, although from earlier version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w87eb6j6oo3vct4/qc_snd_mus.zip?dl=1

[09-29] Quake C devkit "progs_dump" released, plus maps demonstrating its use
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61633

[09-28] La Tailor Girl's 1.68.99 release available
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=300#p1074206

[09-16] Doom Delta 2.0 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRBcbP5q5k

[09-15] Anon's quickstart map updated to support more Heretic, Hexen, and Strife IWADs
https://my.mixtape.moe/ykpkoh.pk3

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5116758 [DELETED] 

AIDS general, AIDS players, AIDS gameplay, AIDS opinions, all round AIDS. Absolute shitbags from reddit reside itt.

>> No.5116759

>>5116756
Need to transfer some old news into archive

[09-14] RedneckGDX released (fixed link)
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/52-redneckgdx

[09-13] SM187 for Quake released, 4 hour speedmaps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61629

>> No.5116765 [DELETED] 

>>5116758
**And lets not forget the cancerous shitbag reddit "humour" all over this fuckhole. This is the single worst general on 4chan in all of 4chan's history.

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>>5116751

>> No.5116774 [DELETED] 

>>5116758
nobody cares

>> No.5116778

>>5116751
>pic
Aaaaand... it's gone.

>> No.5116793

Why you deleting only oppic? Why wouldn't you delete entire thread and make new one?

>> No.5116794

can we get a proper OP next time and not this one guy pushing his shit taste?

>> No.5116797

>>5116793
delete yourself

>> No.5116801

>>5116797
wow rude

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>>5116793

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>>5116794
Guess I was a bit too slow this time around. This guy's shit taste is one thing but the babby lowercase letters already irritate me enough. In favor of getting this thread shitcanned for a more genuine Doom thread already.

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Holy fuck making the pistol spin around makes this way better

>> No.5116916

I PASSED 4 LEVELS IN DOOM 1 BUT STILL HAVEN'T FOUND ANY SECRETS WTF.
Am I a n00b? should I stop?

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Any thoughts on these new GZDoom feautres? Is this a legitimate feauture Doom should be played with or this is vasyanstvo?

>> No.5116935 [DELETED] 

Beyond. Fucking. Saving.

Slav genocide now.
Someone else make a proper thread when this gets deleted. I don't give a shit anymore. These threads are officially /utg/ and /sthg/ tier garbage

>> No.5116936

how can i play as the demons and kill the space marines

>> No.5116943 [DELETED] 

>>5116935
But slavs are what keeping this thread alive. Nobody cares nowdays about Doom except poor slavs and brazilians whose computers can't run modern games.

>> No.5116946

>>5116903
Looks really cool anon.

>>5116916
There are some easy ones that you can get just by having played retro FPSs before, eg look for oddly colored/textured segments of wall. Others take more hunting.

>> No.5116948

>>5116936
try Mutiny or Master of Puppets

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Parallax + PBR materials.

>> No.5116989

>>5116946
doomguy here (lel)
haven't played other retro fps games before, other than q3 arena or ut99.

>> No.5117007

>>5116916
If you can't find even one secret in the first four levels then you're not looking very hard.

>> No.5117024
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Doom 1 episode one is just so damn COMFY. You look at those misty mountains and you just want to go outside and take a deep fresh breath and just go...AAAAHH. You know?

Also, what are some good episode 1 map packs

>> No.5117034

>>5117024
> what are some good episode 1 map packs
The 1994 Cacowards

>> No.5117046

>>5116903
>>5111694
I remember there being a mod with gazoline that could be poured on the floor then ignited with a fire attack.

You could make "watter puddle" flat sprite object that is only vulnerable to electric damage, and make its death state into a same puddle but with shock animation and damage effect that lasts a short while.
Then make player be able to regen water ammo while on the water tile with the weapon out.

>> No.5117059

>>5116751
>best way to play Doom in 2018
Get doom 3 BFG edition. It comes with a bunch of the older doom games.

Also Doom 64 is pretty Kino! I really liked it on the 32x, but certainly Doom 64 is the best console version.

>> No.5117061

>>5117059
What the hell does Doom 64 has to do with a movie?

>> No.5117075

>>5117061
>What the hell does Doom 64 has to do with a movie?
What movie? I am talking about the best way to play doom in 2018.

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>>5117059
Wrong. The best way to play Doom is Low poly mod for GZDoom. Vasyan has made Doom great again.

>> No.5117080

Am I the only one who enjoy breezing through Map2 to Map7 in Doom II. Maps alone are not that great, but they have a good overall feel, good to play them continuously, and The Crusher is seriously the best Doom iwad level.

>> No.5117081 [DELETED] 

>>5117076
>The best way to play Doom is Low poly mod for GZDoom.
If I wanted to play low poly, I would just play it on the PSX.

>> No.5117086

>>5117059
>BFG edition
That one fucks up most games, RoE has its minigames removed

>> No.5117087 [DELETED] 

>>5117076
Looks good.

>> No.5117089

>>5117081
It supposed to be played with VR helmet, not shitty console gaypad.

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he's still bitter haha.

>> No.5117095

>>5117089
>It supposed to be played with VR helmet
Did they make a vr helmet for the PSX? I know they made a mouse? Does the mouse work for Doom on the PSX?

>> No.5117096

>>5117093
BEGONE THOTS

>> No.5117103

>>5117095
Dunno, my only first and last console was NES. I never owned any of these shitstations.

>> No.5117106

>>5117103
>I never owned any of these shitstations
You can get a PSX with the gameshark for $40-60 usd and Final doom can be run from a backup disc. Its pretty good version. I wonder how close to the PC version it is, or if it can be modded or altered?

>> No.5117110

>>5117075
Whenever I looked it says that "kino" means movie.
You said Doom 64 was kino, but it is not a movie?

>> No.5117113 [DELETED] 

>>5117093
Just put in credits that it is made by vasyan and the mod will be legitimately credited. Since Vasyan is not a particular person, it is rather an archetype. The product of the collective unconscious of modding scene.

>> No.5117115 [DELETED] 

>>5117093
Reminders that everyone Mark stole from were actually "contributors" and they have no right to complain since they got a provilege of being present in his glorious mod and be happy with exposure he gave to them

>> No.5117118

>>5117106
What is the point of wasting 60 bucks on this rubbish when there's a big variety of emulators.

>> No.5117120 [DELETED] 

>>5117113
"Vasyan" is literaly a ru-2ch meme. Any HD-obsessed moder/inept gamedev is Vasyan and any codemonkeying is "Vasyanstvo" (the process of being Vasyan)

>> No.5117127

>>5117110
>Whenever I looked it says that "kino" means movie.
Did you like the Doom Movie? I never saw it.

However, Kino may mean that a film is top tier. It is used as a "meme" type of language incorrectly intentionally but with a similar meaning, so if I typed out:
>Also Doom 64 is pretty Kino!
I am saying that doom 64 is top tier, while understanding it is not a film.

>>5117118
>What is the point of wasting 60 bucks on this rubbish when there's a big variety of emulators
How else could you play doom on my CRT tv?

>> No.5117129 [DELETED] 

>>5117120
Not just HD-obsessed. Any modder is vasyan. SergeantMarkIV = vasyan. Brutal Doom = vasyanstvo.

>> No.5117132

>>5117127
Who needs a fucking CRT in 2018. I play Doom on ultrawide 2k 34' and GZDoom supports this resolution.

>> No.5117139

>>5117132
Doom with a CRT, else you are losing realism and authenticity i'm afraid.

>> No.5117140

>>5117132
Bol'noy ubl'udok

>> No.5117141

you know the "eh eeeh" sound from skulltag, that was a taunt that also shows up in gmota's trailer for doomslayer?
how was that sound made?
i once thought it was a heavy edit on the unf sound

>> No.5117145

>>5117132
>Who needs a fucking CRT in 2018
My computer still uses a GDM-FW900, and it blows the doors off of any meme-tier lcd. 1280x800 @ 120hz with no response time and no terrible lcd color interpretation. Don't even get me started on all the negatives of LCDs.

>> No.5117146

>>5117141
No, the HEH HEEEENNHH sound is DSTAUNT from Skulltag, made by Carnevil

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>>5117139
No. I'm getting better out of the old game. Also here's my mod list I'm playing with.

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>>5117163
Modlist

>> No.5117169

>>5116903
More fidget spinning for Term then I guess

>> No.5117172 [DELETED] 

>>5117163
What about you getting better out of newer games, and leaving Doom just fucking be?

>> No.5117174 [DELETED] 

>>5117163
>>5117165
Jesus fuck compress your .jpg files!

>> No.5117184 [DELETED] 

>>5117115
But nobody still knows who any of those people are.
BD is the one Doom mod that manages to appeal to people who don't care much about Doom modding and they're not going to both to explore a fanbase making mods for a 25 year old game.

>> No.5117191 [DELETED] 

>>5117093
Lots of people are. Why do you think Mark has been kicked out of every fucking community he's been part of?

>>5117115
Except he would absolutely refuse to credit people for their work, the fucking 40 year old manchild couldn't even display common courtesy to the people who did his work for him.
Also fucking kill yourself.

>> No.5117194 [DELETED] 

>>5117163
> no filters
> no hd textures
good
> high def shine
is that just how the materials work, or are they higher res than the base textures?

>> No.5117236

Either stop creating threads with images that get deleted (what was even there to warrant that, NSFW content?) or stop deleting OP images, this is just annoying.

>> No.5117241
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>> No.5117242

>>5117236
There was no NSFW. It was Doom modded with various HD, 3D models packs to the point when it stops being a retro game and is no longer relevant to /vr/.

>> No.5117248

>>5117242
>>5117236
The issue was that it was bait, because the OP knew how much most people here hated that sort of thing
The text isn't even in all caps lock

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>>5117242
>>5117248
Wew lad, was it Vasyan's Doom™ The Way It's Meant To Be Played© repack again? I'd rather have blank OP pic then, please carry on.

>> No.5117251

>>5117059
BFG edition replaces gorgeous dynamic lighting that made Doom3 what it was with shitty static lighting. It also makes the game less spooky by giving you an easy-mode flashlight.

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>>5117241
bitch pls

>> No.5117259

>>5117249
Where I can download this " Vasyan's Doom™"? Just want to look what is it.

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>>5117257

>> No.5117263

>>5117259
It's called Doom Slayer Chronicles.

>> No.5117264

>>5117251
But Doom 3 isn't spooky in the slightest, and the flashlight was a common complaint back then since you couldn't see shit and because the game isn't scary then the darkness added nothing to the game, it's a fix. You have so much ammo it's insulting to call it scary.

>> No.5117265

>>5117259
Doom Remake 4 made by vasyan777
https://www.moddb.com/mods/lowpoly-doom-lite-10

>> No.5117267

>>5117259
It's on moddb: https://www.moddb.com/mods/lowpoly-doom-lite-10

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>>5117265
jesus

>> No.5117271

>>5117251
There's probably a way to revert all the changes in BFG edition.
>>5117257
I concede.

>> No.5117273

>>5117242
>to the point when it stops being a retro game
That's the worst excuse you could come up with, we discuss mods that make the game look unrecognizable before like doomero's shit and total chaos yet complained that they weren't allowed on this board.

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>>5117024
Wonderful Doom
The Ultimate NMD

Well, technically they are a full 3-episode megawads. But the E1 comfiness is there too.

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>>5117262
>>5117271
I can still crank it up even further if necessary

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i'm stoned and just played deep dream doom with dopesmoker by electric wizard in the background ama

>> No.5117297

>>5117275
about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom, on the left

when are we going to start seeing archviles version of these
> asshole archvile a mile away (they can't start their attack from insane distances, but they won't interrupt it either)
> entire image has the flickering flames overlayed ontop

>> No.5117298

>>5117279
Crank it to maximum.

>> No.5117304

>>5117273
Total Chaos is not a Doom mod as it promotes itself. It is an indie techdemo built on top of GZDoom engine and has nothing to do with both Doom and /vr/. Vasyan's mod is still Doom, but is not relevant to /vr/ since all assets that it contains (textures, 3d models) were made after 99, it simply replaces all original 93 art with 00-18 stuff.

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>> No.5117313

Besides D4D having the shoulder cannon, are there any mods with stuff from the Doom Eternal footage?

>> No.5117319

>>5117306
What is this wad?

>> No.5117321

>>5117319
JPCP

>> No.5117326

what mods or stuff is anyone anticipated for?
for me its the samsara monster mixer someone was working on, doom 64 inator and the gzdoom ports of doom rpg series

>> No.5117329

>>5117326
I’m waiting for the early versions of the hypothetical D4E before it becomes too bloated

>> No.5117331

>>5117326
The Crimson Deed, mainly. I'm really intrigued by what Batandy can cook up this time.

>> No.5117341

>>5117326
Lowpoly Brutal Doom

>> No.5117352

>>5117331
> halloween psychic
hell ye

>> No.5117362

>>5117251
>Doom3
I was just talking about how it came with Ultimate Doom & Doom II.

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>>5117326
Supplice.
A megawad with full graphic/sprite replacement for everything and some new weapons and monsters
I've been waiting for it for 6 years, and it still does not look dead.
I hope it will finally release in '19.

>> No.5117364

>>5117291
No questions but found out what deleted OP pic was

>> No.5117367

>>5117364
>No questions but found out what deleted OP pic was
If I said:

>Please tell us.

That would not be a question.

>> No.5117380

>>5117326
Buttsex 3
Supplice

>> No.5117420

Could someone kindly give me a rundown of the Rootpain, Buttpain, and Laundry 2 saga?

>> No.5117571

I'm getting tons of lag when I play doom in full screen but it runs perfectly fine in windowed mode. According to Google it seems to either be some sort of driver issue or a problem with a windows update, but I can't nail down a solution. Has anyone else had this problem/know how to fix it?

>> No.5117602

What are the best mods for casual players? Read: not too difficult, more or less classic style, but better design...

>> No.5117606

>>5117602
Final Doomer, Guncaster

>> No.5117610

>>5117420
"guy makes bad horror mod, is overly defensive about it, term makes joke mod that's 50x better, shivers proceeds to make sequel to it that's 500x better" -- marrub

>> No.5117634

>>5117602
Classic style is going to mean different things to different people. As is "better." Assuming you mean gameplay mods Final Doomer, Combined Arms and Lithium all have options that might fit your needs.

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How do I play Doom and not get motion sickness? I never got it when I was younger but now Doom makes me feel nauseous.

>> No.5117639

>>5117637
movebob 0 in the console

>> No.5117652

>>5117571
Nevermind I figured it out. It turns out that even though my laptop was plugged in, the game was being run in some sort of power save mode. I had to force it to always run with max perdormance through nvidia control panel. Based windows being retarded as usual

>> No.5117672

>>5117639
Why not "movebob 0.05"? It affects movement but won't affect weapon bobbing then.

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I just remembered this.

>> No.5117682

>>5117672
the idea is to stop the visual bobbing entirely, for motion sickness

>> No.5117689

>>5117675
WooD? is it a wooden snowboard? Weird for them to mark it like that.

>> No.5117695

>>5117682
But this is not what is causing motion sickness. It is actually an uncapped fps in GZDoom. Too high fps looks unnatural on this kind of old game. It can be disabled with command cl_capfps 1.

>> No.5117712

How can I make the player class always enter its pain state from damaging floors even with 100% damage reduction armor?

>> No.5117737

>>5117080
The first episode is pretty fun and consistent. The Gantlet is a classic. Once the city stuff starts its a total mixed bag.

>> No.5117750

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCLUWxuDOAg

>> No.5117753

>>5117750
BJ Blazkowicz, who dual-wields the electro-laser-gun thingy from NuWolf.

Saved you a click.

>> No.5117762

>>5117750
I was expecting Hitler as a joke character because of the song
>>5117753
It's a 3 minute video

>> No.5117767 [DELETED] 

You have 10 seconds to name a Map made by SArais and why you like it.
You have those same 10 seconds to alternatively name another map of his that you do/don't like and how to improve it.

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>>5117767
you have 10 seconds to suck my dick and shut up about e-personalities

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>>5117750
> laserkraftwerk + napalmkraftwerk
cool and good

>> No.5117784

>>5117326
Halloween Jam for quake

>> No.5117794 [DELETED] 

>>5117767
You have 10 seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties.

>> No.5117797 [DELETED] 

>>5117794
Easy bro, just havin' us a conversation.

>> No.5117803

>>5117637
In GZDoom, you should be able to find settings for viewbob and weapon bob, so you could alter those as you feel is comfortable.

>> No.5117804

>>5117762
>It's a 3 minute video
Ok, and?

>> No.5117805

>>5117794
Maybe you should try getting a Job!

>> No.5117810

>>5117805
Okay, where?

>> No.5117816

>>5117737
The good: Map02-07, 11, 17, 26-29
The bad: all the rest

>> No.5117820

>>5117810
Electronic Arts

>> No.5117832

>>5117810
Majestic 12

>> No.5117835

>>5117080
I kind of feel you, but myself, I lose steam at Map 12, because you have Map 11, Bagel Of Decimation, which is a GREAT map, but then immediately you have Factory, which is like one of the dullest maps in the set.

There's a handful of good and decent maps later, after that, but immediately upon reaching Map 12, I ask myself "Oh, gosh, gee, do I *REALLY* want to play Map 12?", and my answer to myself is always "No, god no, let's play another mapset.", or "Hey, let's just SKIP this map and continue to the fun ones!"

I'd say to keep playing until you reach the later levels, because some of them are pretty good, especially Map 28 and Map 29.

>> No.5117836

>>5117820
Oh, yeah, just fuckin' sell your soul to Satan. Brilliant idea, old chum.

>> No.5117839

>>5117816
I really like Barrels O' Fun and The Chasm, desu.

>> No.5117845

>>5117816
Oh yeah, Map 08 is great too.

>> No.5117865

>>5117820
you're gonna burn, alright

>> No.5117870

With all this talk about iwads having both good and bad maps....
I wonder why didn't anybody yet made a program that allows you to configure and create your own custom iwad.
Basically, it has all of the Doom iwads, and you can choose what levels from them to include/exclude.
You can just make a wad that has half of Doom 2 levels. Or maybe a wad that has like ten of your favourite D2 levels, some levels from Plutonia, a couple from TNT, ect.
Or you could just enable all levels from then.
And then also have the option to make it either continuous (in the order that you want) or episodic.
And an option to force pistol starts if you want.
Maybe could even have randomization features.

So all of this but in a simple program that anyone can use.

>> No.5117881
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>Whenever you get a demon rune in D4T it crashes because of the newest GZDOOM versions
>This sucks
>Tried D4T Crucible which removes the demon runes and enhances certain aspects but whenever you get damage the screen shakes a lot
>That's ok
>A newer version of Crucible removes that annoying feature.
>That's good.
>An addon that fixes the GZDOOM bug comes out for the regular D4T.
>That's really fucking good.

>> No.5117890

>>5117881
>>An addon that fixes the GZDOOM bug comes out for the regular D4T.
isn't that the one that makes keys disappear?

>> No.5117893

>>5117890
> it's always something

>> No.5117918

>>5117870
Can't you edit mapinfo and make your own version?

>> No.5117920

>>5117890
Major Issues Fixed:
- GZDoom crash when unmorphing from demon (fix found by AbyssWalker)
- Missing menu options when using GZDoom (also revamped Main Menu)

Minor:
- Issue where sometimes Shield of enemy soldier would stay after death (Fixed by DBT in QCDE)
- Issue where the QuadDamage end sound would play on pickup when playing MP

>> No.5117925

Is Graf 58 years old?

>> No.5117929
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ZioMcall said that he doesn't want to continue Brutal Wolfenstein anymore because he lost interest,he still gave the WIP version.
This is what Schabbs looks like.

>> No.5117932

>>5117918
Well, that's not somebody can just do. A simple player wouldn't even know that's an option!
That's why public programs exist, so that normal humans didn't need to know programming to do something.

>> No.5117934

>>5117925
Who knows,doesn't change the fact he's an asshole.

>> No.5117935

>>5117929
I know Brutal mods have a reputation for being sloppy, but i heard good things about this one.

>> No.5117938 [DELETED] 

Glory to Ukraine!

>> No.5117941

>>5117938
Кpым нaш

>> No.5117945

>>5117291
A true scholar I see. Dopesmoker is the shit, man!

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>>5117935
It's actually really well done.
Most of the maps look different and not maze-like like in the original.
There's a good variety of weapons and there are some new enemies as well.
The boss fights,at least with Hans and Schabbs are not tedious like and boring like in v4.5.

It has its issues but nothing that really breaks the mod.

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>https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/1054485832709459968

>> No.5117952

>>5117949
it's a meme

>> No.5117953

>>5117945
Ah shiet, meant to say Dopethrone. Or... did you meant Dopesmoker by Sleep? Anyway, both are cool albums, though I'm more of a Dopethrone guy myself, if I had to pick just one of the two.

>> No.5117954

>>5117952
im pissed with the fact tthis is stupid enough to attract the wrong people and generate more stupid shitposting

>> No.5117960

>>5117080
tricks and traps is fun.

the pit is where I reach a full stop. that map is padding incarnate, holy shit.

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Currently playing Unreal for the firsr time.
The Skaarj AI is actually really good,they can even swim.It's amazing considering this is from 1998.

>> No.5117992

>>5117257
Now THAT is a lot of flame bois...

>> No.5118058

>>5117925
No, but he acts like a 12 year old.

>> No.5118079

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgklh0kDHiI

>> No.5118082

>>5117965
steve polge is a fucking AI magician.

>> No.5118083

>quake 1 has a lovecraftian theme
>all of the sequels are just generic scifi crap

>> No.5118087

>>5118083
Soul: ID with Romero
Soulless: ID without Romero
Soul but no body including brains: Romero without ID

>> No.5118098

>>5118087
Doom 64 and Doom 2016 is soulless?

>> No.5118105

>>5118098
64 has plenty of soul but NuDoom is as soulless as they come

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gear to wear

>> No.5118139
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This wad is too damn good. Captures the atmosphere of Silent Hill so well. The only problem is that it doesnt really have a story like the games do. Still very memorable though.

>> No.5118145

>>5118139
Is it better than Unloved?

>> No.5118147

>>5118083
People will throw shit at you but i feel the same. Why utterly discard a concept so beautiful, mah... On Quake 1 i can also feel free, every movement is important, the weapons are good and satisfactory, the dungeon sensation is great and so on. i could shill Q1 anyday but you guys know this jewel better than me.

>> No.5118161

>>5118145
Apples & oranges really. Unloved is still a pretty standard Doom "kill monsters, move forward" wad but with a Silent Hill-like atmosphere. This is much more similar mechanically to SH, with slow movement, hidden keys, and less focus on combat.

>> No.5118165

>>5118087
Daikatana had massive development problems and was in development hell for a while, it wasn't just a Romero thing, this kind of stuff happens even to huge companies that have done great games before.

>> No.5118176

>>5118165
Well Romero was the head of the project, so. He was the one who chose to move it from the Quake 1 to the Quake 2 engine, which delayed the project massively. Among other mistakes.

>> No.5118180

>>5118083
>>5118087
Quake 1 was a magical result of really awful circumstances, which they never ever intended to revisit because it was all a bunch of compromises which never quite made anyone of them happy (though even Romero, who felt the most miffed, would gladly agree that the resulting game was still very good). Romero's original vision for Quake 1 was really nothing at all like what the game actually is.

Quake 2 was intended as an all new, unrelated game, but which got stuck with the title because they couldn't use the title they really wanted.
Again, iD were not in the headspace where they intended to go back to that, not any time soon.
The idea of an actual sequel in Quake 1's setting is ironically much more likely today, where the company is mostly staffed by different people, and there's nostalgia for how different that game was from the rest of the series. Hell, the people involved all probably have a far more mature perspective on it today, so even if they were still around, it would still be likelier today than back then.

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>>5118105

>> No.5118184

>>5118182
That makes me wonder what Doom 3 is.

>> No.5118185

>>5118176
Romero made a lot of mistakes with Dai-Katana, significant ones, but so did other people involved.

>> No.5118189

>>5118184
Though strongly flawed, also not awful.
Best enjoyed with a flashlight mod, which lets it play less as weaksauce jumpscare horror, and more like an alright shooter.

The chainsaw is really good.

>> No.5118197

>>5117820
Why not Activision or Irrational Games?

>> No.5118205

>>5116769
trash design

>> No.5118213

>>5116769
The bunny looks like Judy Hopps...

>> No.5118215

>>5117675
If only they took that massive marketing budget and put it into giving nu-doom a good multiplayer, or mod tools, or a mapmaker that wasn't shit, or good level design

>> No.5118218

>>5118213
That's because she is.

>> No.5118220

>>5118215
I see you don't like nu-doom's overall choice of level design. What broke it for you?

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>>5118105
You’re are wrong tho. D44M is great. And Eternal is gonna be even better

>> No.5118230 [DELETED] 

>>5118098
>Doom 2016 is soulless?
Did you really need to fucking ask? Of course it is, it has dubstep for fuck's sake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XYZXqOiNoM

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>>5118230

>> No.5118237

>>5118230
>dubstep
Jokes aside D44M is a classic

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>>5118227
>Doom without Romero, Carmack or anybody else from old id
>Good

>> No.5118241

>>5118220
The 12 enemy cap forces constant, predictable use of "arena" after "arena" locking you in place to hide that fact and disallowing the player from making the choice to skip fights; the bad health and ammo placement, the structure is overall more linear than a sequel made 20 years later has any right being.
Why are you even defending it? This is /vr/. This isn't a place for AAA trash.
>>5118227
take it to /v/, faggot, he's completely correct.
>>5118235
>>5118237
I just linked you literal dubstep and an anime implying face isn't a response.
Why are you defending D44M so hard?

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>>5118241

>> No.5118247

>>5118241
Because it’s a good game? Why are you hating it so hard? Ye Multiplayer and no mods is dog shit but the single player campaign start to finish is really fun.

>> No.5118252

>>5118241
[Autistic meltdown intensifies]

>> No.5118257

>>5118241
>This isn't a place for AAA trash
This might be hard to believe but there was AAA hot garbage back in the day too.

>> No.5118259

>>5118246
Ouch, you got me anon.
>>5118247
>is really fun
What the fuck is supposed to make it fun exactly?

The wubstep soundtrack?
The lack of modding capability?
The lack of a working level editor?
The godawful broken multiplayer?
The shitty level design which I just explained is overly linear, predictable and repetitive?
The hard cap on 12 enemies at a time?
The only thing going for it is the campaign since every other feature attached to the game is utter trash, and then on top of that they go and fuck up the level design, quantity of enemies and music, big components of a good singleplayer campaign.

I've made my reasons clear for why I hate it. Why the fuck are you defending it in /vr/, a board that isn't for the praising of trashy modern AAA titles?

>> No.5118280

>>5118241
>The 12 enemy cap forces constant, predictable use of "arena" after "arena" locking you in place to hide that fact and disallowing the player from making the choice to skip fights

This was the most frustrating thing for me. I like so much about the game, but the arena style level design is really boring. It's the one thing I hope they fix in the sequel.

>> No.5118283

>>5118259
the gunplay is fun and the fights are fun
why you heff to be mad

>> No.5118285

>>5118259
>Why the fuck are you defending it in /vr/, a board that isn't for the praising of trashy modern AAA titles?
why the fuck are you upset that people aren't agreeing with you?

>> No.5118305

>>5118259
Fun fact, 4chan isn't a hivemind. Someone can primarily enjoy retro games while not thinking every modern game is trash.

>> No.5118317

>>5118283
Of course I would be mad about an idiot praising a perversion of the series on /vr/ you retard. What, you want me to be happy people will willingly pay money for shit?
>the gunplay is fun and the fights are fun
The gun firing animations and noises aren't enough to carry the rest of the game's failures, and the fights are not fun when they all play out the same over and over, locking you into arena after arena after arena to try and hide the fact the game can only spawn 12 enemies.
>>5118283
>why the fuck are you upset that people aren't agreeing with you?
That would more accurately describe >>5118182 and >>5118227 and >>5118235
At least I can provide reasoning for why D44M is a shit game
>>5118305
4chan isn't a hivemind, but you are a samefag.

>> No.5118327

>>5118317
Anon. You can't call someone else who disagrees with you a samefag. Are you schizophrenic? Are you well? You should take a break and get some rest

>> No.5118332

>>5118317
>but you are a samefag.
Ah yes, the classic "more than one person doesn't agree with me, they must be the same person" trick.

>> No.5118335

>>5118259
Just throwing in my voice that i liked doom2016 too. I wasn't expecting to, but i honestly think they nailed it. It's different than doom but its actually fresh and pretty true to the original in many ways. Take for example it's music, which you call
>wubstep
It's not dubstep, it's modern electronic music with a harsh/metal influence. Older people and hipsters likely had similar complains about original Doom's music given that it was a midi mishmash of stolen riffs from popular bands at the time.

>The only thing going for it is the campaign
So like, almost every /vr/ game? You know even quakes multiplayer, which became massively popular, wasn't good until mods came along, right?

>> No.5118337

>>5118327
>>5118332
There is clearly not 3 people in here defending D44M in unison. I think it's one person actually defending it with arguments, and one person (you) "defending" it by randomly accusing people of being mentally ill if they criticize it.
>Are you schizophrenic? Are you well?
No? Why do you talk like this? Are you going to defend your point of view at all or just throw random mental illness accusations at me all day?

>> No.5118339

>>5118337
>There is clearly not 3 people in here defending D44M in unison
Lol. Ok dude.

>> No.5118342

>>5118317
You are unreasonably angry about this btw, thats why the other anon is calling you skitzo.

>hide the fact the game can only spawn 12 enemies.
I'm sure if you were alive in 1993 and autistic enough you would have complained about Doom's enemy slotting being a travesty, that you can't fight more than a few enemies at once and the rest of the enemies are just hanging around for show until you get to them.

>> No.5118359

>>5118337
>>5118317
I had enough fun to blast through it three times, although now I get turned away by the slow start, before you get enough weapons to really get combat flowing
also when I said gunplay, I actually meant how the guns played, not the pew pew sounds they make. the reload cancelling and alt-fires creates a lot of combo potential and ways to switch it up, and the enemy AI (particularly imps) is really fun to fight against

and seriously, you are getting way too mad about this; this isn't /v/, even if it's feeling more and more like it every day

>> No.5118362

>>5118337
I like Doom 4 too. It's flawed yes, and the multiplayer sucks. But I enjoyed the more aggressive play style the game encouraged by giving you goodies from running up glory killing monsters. I think it would have been better if they didn't stop you for each one, but having to risk your ass to close the gap and then turning the tide of a fight is cool. I also like the subweapons the game offers, leech grenades are also cool.
You need to settle down.

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Can't we all just get along?! They're all fun video games and at the end of the day isn't that what we're all about?

>> No.5118373 [DELETED] 

>>5118339
Just gonna ignore you and the samefag version of you since you aren't interested in actually defending the game and just insulting anyone who criticizes it.
>>5118342
>thats why the other anon is calling you skitzo
I wasn't asking.
>I'm sure if you were alive in 1993 and autistic enough you would have complained about Doom's enemy slotting being a travesty
Doom isn't capped to 12 enemies on the ENTIRE LEVEL like D44M is.
Plus you actually can fight more than 12 enemies at once in unmodded Doom in a single area on Nightmare. Let alone WADs (which is yet another area D44M is a complete failure of a sequel).
Also, you're unironically comparing a 1996 game to a 2016 game. Sequels should be straight upgrades in every way from their predecessors to justify their existence, especially when they've had 20+ years to improve.

D44M is not a good game. It fails in almost every area as a sequel. It does not deserve praise, especially not here.

>> No.5118380 [DELETED] 

>>5118373
>not as good as vanilla doom on Nightmare
nibba what

>> No.5118382 [DELETED] 

>>5118364
nuDoom is not a fun video game, you pleb
at least if you're not a dullard.

I'm not going to "agree to disagree" when I KNOW that the lies that this thread spews are fundamentally wrong.

>> No.5118387 [DELETED] 

>>5118362
>But I enjoyed the more aggressive play style the game encouraged by giving you goodies from running up glory killing monsters
Actually, those QTEs were a cancerous addition to the Doom formula. Once you've seen the animations the first couple times, getting locked into a standing still position to kill a single enemy immediately stops becoming fun for the rest of the game.
The only reason I haven't mentioned those QTEs thus far is because it's "optional" (let's ignore for a second that the health and ammo placement is based around the assumption you will use the QTEs).
>>5118382
This but unironically.

>> No.5118390 [DELETED] 

>>5118382
I find old doom and new doom fun. I like shooting the cool demons with the cool sci fi guns. I still dont get the complaints. Enemy count is fine, you dont fight that many enemies at once in the old quakes

>> No.5118402 [DELETED] 

>>5118387
Thanks for quoting me and failing to read the other part where I mentioned it would be better if they didn't stop you for each melee kill. It's obvious you just want to bicker with people over petty bullshit. You want to have kneejerk reactions and call people names over this dumb shit, only registering parts of posts you want to attack.
You should consider posting on /v/, instead.

>> No.5118405 [DELETED] 

>>5118390
>I still dont get the complaints
What is there not to get about this? How simple can I make it?
>wubstep soundtrack
>no modding
>useless level editor
>broken multiplayer, outsourced to the people who did CoD: Ghosts
>linear, repetitive level design
>doomguy becomes mustard chief
>shit health and ammo placement
>hard cap on 12 enemies in a map at a time
>bullet sponge enemies
>did I mention no modding

>Enemy count is fine, you dont fight that many enemies at once in the old quakes
The Doom series isn't the Quake series. Quake was Lovecraftian horror, Doom's appeal was ripping through hordes of demons with powerful weapons.
Plus, that was one of Quake's few flaws, while Quake didn't have many of the flaws Doom 2016 has.
And Quake was 20 years ago when 3D tech was only just emerging and technological limitation was a much bigger issue. It isn't comparable in the slightest to a game made in 2016, which you would expect to be better in every way.

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is the bad man gone?

>> No.5118410

If you could port an entire Doom megawad to Build engine, which megawad and which game would you port it to? For me, Ancient Aliens and Powerslave.

>> No.5118417

>>5118410
Scythe 2 to Duck Canuck.
Scythe 2 is just perfect, man.

>> No.5118418

>>5118410
Scythe to Shadow Warrior. Albeit with a seriously reduced enemy count towards the last few levels

>> No.5118420

>>5118417
the latter half of scythe 2 is O O F

>> No.5118427

>>5118420
You say that like it invalidates the first half?

>> No.5118429

>>5118427
how did you get that from my post.

>> No.5118430

>>5118420
It is. It's wonderful, though, I love it.

>> No.5118435

>>5118410
Doom 2 Reloaded

>> No.5118443
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playing D64FD2 with the Weapons of Saturn Mod

Hardcore style

>> No.5118480

>>5118239
Kevin Cloud and Tim Willits are still there.
also a good chunk of the D44m dev team are the exact same from Doom 3, which might I add was under Carmack's supervision, so...

>> No.5118491

>>5118337
lol he's mad over a videogame

>>5118418
you just want to spam nukes on map30 don't you
my nigga

>> No.5118493

>>5118491
>You just want to spam nukes on map 30
It is good day to die.

>> No.5118503

hello, may I speak to Mr. Jass?
first name's Hugh!

>> No.5118506

Do we have a Huge Ass here? Telephone call for a Huge Ass!

>> No.5118508

>>5118503
HARRO, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR RUNNING?
BETTER CATCH IT, HAHAHA!

>> No.5118531

>>5118410
Dude, I would love to play doom II with duke. actual dook, not samsara duke.

all that pesky platforming, just decimated with the jetpack.

>> No.5118556

>>5118410
>For me, Ancient Aliens and Powerslave
You mean port Ancient Aliens to Powerslave's version of the Build engine? Really? The Build version of Powerslave is pretty mediocre, and the engine version is outdated compared to Duke Nukem.

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What did he mean by this?

>> No.5118636 [DELETED] 

>>5118624
nothing. he just like to stir shit up, like you.

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By Flesh Consumed is a HUGE step up in difficulty, or do I just suck?

>> No.5118691

>>5118410
Valiant to Duke. Map6 felt like a Duke map with Water world music.

>> No.5118693

>>5118686
No it's a huge step up, but you could also suck (it's a possibility, not confirmed)

>> No.5118704

>>5118693
It's confirmed that YOUR MOM sucks B)

>> No.5118736

nobody steals our chicks

>> No.5118767

>>5118736
AND

>> No.5118793

>>5118767
breeds

>> No.5118798

>>5118767
*splat*

>> No.5118804

>>5118798
DOUK

>> No.5118806

ITS TIME TO KICK

>> No.5118810

dukeposting>>>>>>>>dick rot>>>>>>>cultist autism

>> No.5118821

<--- guys he does it

>> No.5118824

>>5118821
man, I missed it.

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>> No.5118841
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5118841

I like Doug Huggem

>> No.5118842

What are the best official Duuk levels?

>> No.5118857

(distant alien noises)

>> No.5118861

mocking Duke Nukem is unironically hilarious.

just the lone concept of parodying his self aware approach to the typical 90's macho hero schtick is enough to make me giggle like a little girl.

>> No.5118863

bring it in

>> No.5118865
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5118865

> the posts over the last 7 hours

>> No.5118868

relevant
https://youtu.be/DKAFWfXy5vU

>> No.5118871

>>5118868
the sideways rocket always gets me

>> No.5118875
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Soon

>> No.5118902

>>5118875
poon

>> No.5118904

>>5118767
Libs

>> No.5118907

I will take revenge on those pesky extraterrestrial beings as they assaulted my carriage.

>> No.5118918

>>5118907
*Looks at his gold watch and reloads his pepper-box percussion pistol*

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>>5118865
A shit OP and a shit thread go hand in hand.

I must digress though: what WADs has everyone been playing?

>> No.5118937

>>5118907
Nobody kidnaps our gentlewomen and survives

>> No.5118939
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5118939

How would you improve the Spawn enemy from Quake, or is it good as it is?

>> No.5118940

>>5118939
Delet it from the game

>> No.5118943

>>5118940
Quake 64 did that thankfully.

>> No.5118945

>>5118939
by deleting him from the game entirely.
I hate it

>> No.5118952

>>5118165
He ran it into the ground by designing the entirety of Episode1 of Daikatana to play map29/E4M2-style. Due to this, the game was largely deemed completely unplayable and unsalvageable.

>> No.5118954

>>5118480
Yeah, by the way, Call of Doom was Cloud's game (also, by the way, he directed Quake2), and Rage 1-2 are Willits'. So.

>> No.5118958

>>5118939
You only attack it when it jumps back from you, preparing for another attack. It's is much more beneficial to sacrifice a bit of health to tank an extra hit, than to sacrifice massive amounts of it to tank an explosion.

There.

>> No.5118960

>>5118952
>by designing
By balancing, that is.

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>>5117363
omg

>> No.5118972

>>5118842
Dark side, Freeway, Derelict, Golden carnage

>> No.5118986

>>5117024
Knee Deep in ZDoom

>> No.5119008

>>5118180
>because they couldn't use the title they really wanted.
That's stupid. They still should have given it another title, rather than "Quake 2". Why did have to be either the one title they wanted or it could only be a sequel to Quake in name? Retarded shit. They still should have given it another name completely.

>> No.5119030

>>5118686
Thy Flesh was released after Doom 2 came out, so it was intended for players who were well acquainted with the game. It's pretty uneven in difficulty - it starts like a motherfucker, hits you even harder with the second map, lets up some on the third, noticeably cools down for the next two, fucks you again on E4M6, and then pretty dramatically relaxes for the last two maps.

But don't give up! It's got some of the best maps in all of Doom 1. I still just pull up E4M2 every once in a while just to play through it.

>> No.5119041 [DELETED] 

>>5118241
> disallowing the player from making the choice to skip fights
So what? I never really skip fights in Doom anyway, unless I have no ammo. And even then I eventually come back and clear out the level.

>>5118259
> The wubstep soundtrack?
Subjective.

> The lack of modding capability?
> The lack of a working level editor?
> The godawful broken multiplayer?
How the hell do these affect the fun of single player? They don't!

> level design is overly linear, predictable and repetitive?
Not always, you can still explore for secrets.

>>5118317
> a perversion of the series
It's not a perversion, it's a reconstruction.

>> No.5119043

>>5118506
>>5118503
No, we only have Hugh Mungus.

>> No.5119047

>>5119030
I often use E4M1 as a test map for my modding, because you have that immediate shitshow combat requiring quick reflexes.
It'll really give you an idea on how mean some of the monsters are, and how well your weapon actually performs.

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>>5118686
Yes.

>> No.5119056

>>5119041
For fucks sake, I go to bed and you people are STILL replying to him. STOP.

>>5119043
It's an honor to meet you, Mr. Mungus.

>> No.5119061 [DELETED] 

>>5119056
Well I just recently woke up, read new posts and answered.

>> No.5119067

>>5119056
> It's an honor to meet you, Mr. Mungus.
Thank you, I'm very Hugh.

>> No.5119068 [DELETED] 

>>5118241
> disallowing the player from making the choice to skip fights
I also enjoy skipping gameplay. You know, gotta go fast.

>> No.5119072

>>5119047
E4M3 is the real shitshow of a start - it's almost guaranteed to kill new players at least once, probably twice just from the sheer fire they're under right at the beginning with no real cover. At least in M1 you can immediately sprint over to a corner and pop in out cover to deal with the starting shotgunners.

>> No.5119073 [DELETED] 

>>5119041
>How the hell do these affect the fun of single player
Negatively obv.

>It's not a perversion, it's a reconstruction

nuDoom is a good sequel... To Painkiller. Not Doom.
It was previously discussed how both the flow and combat gameplay are different in both series, and nuDoom goes after Painkiller style, not Doom.

>> No.5119078

>>5118972
Dark Side is a masterpiece. The only Duke level that ranks up well with the best Doom maps.

>> No.5119081

>>5119047
E4M1 doesn't as much require you to have quick reflexes, at it requires you not to miss.

>> No.5119105

>>5119081
That depends on what changes you've done to the monsters, I suppose. Subjective, I realize.

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>>5119068
I'm not that dude and boy do I hate the idea of wading into this fucking stupid argument, but there's at least something worth saying here. Being able to run from fights actually points to something integral to what makes Doom what it is, and old school shooters more broadly. With a lot of modern shooters that claim to evoke old school design (Serious Sam, Painkiller, Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior, Doom 2016, etc), there's a clear distinction between level layout and combat - you walk through a linear level and maybe have to pop a few enemies, and eventually enter a situation where you're forced into combat, and when that's resolved, you go back to walking through that linear level until the next showdown. You never have to have a broad spatial awareness of the full map because once the fight is over, you're never going back except for pickups for the next showdown.

But in Doom and other old school shooters, enemies are actually integrated into the level design itself. There's no distinction between "explore level" and "fight enemies" - enemies are present everywhere and affect where you can go based on the resources you have, which requires the player to be aware of what their tactical options are. There may be times where it's preferable to run, there may be times where it's preferable to fight, or you may need to have varying degrees of fighting and running. This fluid mix of combat and exploration gives a much broader space to interpret the level and the game as a whole and adds a sense of dynamism that can't really come from "doors lock, no more exploration, fight now."

The best examples of that broad interpretive space are the Compete-N categories. You can beat a level killing everything and finding all secrets, or you can just sprint straight for the exit (and even do that without monsters on the map), or you can fight only what you can with your fists, or you can actively choose not to kill anyone at all.

Doom 2016 is still a great game, btw.

>> No.5119107

>>5119073
No, combat is quite obviously inspired by casual (no trickjumping) Quake deathmatching, and developed further to make it more interesting as a singleplayer game.

Come to think of it, it does a thing that is very similar to what Unreal did back in the day, splicing death/botmatch into singleplayer - but does it on a completely different level of quality gamedesign-wise.

It is pretty much a pastiche of classic Doom games, Quake, Quake3/Live, Doom 3, Rage, Call of Doom, and to me it's very much rather "id Software: The Game", than "Doom 4". However, I don't think, that either of those games constitutes the core of D44M's identity, what D44M is when you cut down all the superficial fluff, that which gives it integrity and unity. That identity, I think, resides not in what D44M does do, it resides in what D44M does NOT do. I think, that D44M is a protest to the entire current state of the genre, that could ultimately be traced to a single game, Half-Life 1. On the other hand, it isn't NEARLY specific enough to be considered a deconstruction of Half-Life 1 specifically. So, the question of what D44M even is, hinges very much on what the subsequent, Marty-Stratton-directed games in the series will end up being, namely, Doom Eternal (and what it will introduce narrative-wise and gamedesign-wise, that D44M didn't have).

tl;dr: D44M, being a remix of previous id games, is, at its core, a "Fuck YOU!" game, but where exactly that "YOU!" is directed remains to be seen. Best case scenario, it's a first chapter of a proper deconstruction of HL1's singpleplayer.

>> No.5119134

>>5119107
So you’re saying that Half Life set the stage for cinematic shooters and that Doom Eternal is somehow going to “take it down?”

>> No.5119137 [DELETED] 

>>5119134
First, yes, second, dunno, I hope.

>> No.5119139 [DELETED] 

>>5119107
That's all fine and dandy, but the main problem everyone has with nuDoom is arena-to-arena encounter design that flows in fight-stop-fight-stop Painkiller fashion instead of the usual fight-fight-fight with very few stops Doom fashion.

If they don't change it in the Eternal, most of the community is still going to be unhappy about it, especially since mapping tools provided cant alleviate the issue due to strict enemy count restrictions.

>> No.5119141

>>5119139
In the quakecon trailer, gameplay seemed to flow, albeit linearly, without stopping, and there were no gore nests or lockdowns to be seen, though that could just be for presentation purposes.

>> No.5119171

>>5118139
The full thing does have a story.
>>5118145
Unloved 1 and 2 were one of my main sources of inspiration. I was very disappointed that 2 was never completed in favor of a shitty "procedural" "roguelike" shooter.

>> No.5119182

>>5119107
Actually, I think I have an idea about what this could be all about.

Who is whose puppet? Does Gordon Freeman execute every whim of the player - or is the player acting in a way Gordon Freeman, as a character, however vaguely characterized, is SUPPOSED to act? Who influences whom? The commonsensical answer is, of course, that the player influences the protagonist.

Okay, in cinematic games the player is directly punished or otherwise discouraged to act outside of his character's role. Those games artificially enforce ludonarrative consonance.

>> No.5119190

>>5118967
and that's not even the largest mechadon map

>> No.5119240 [DELETED] 

>>5118241
>harsh electronic music = wubstep

This is (((the same retard))) who got super butthurt about people thinking Project Warlock was anything other than complete shit, isn't it?

>> No.5119275 [DELETED] 

>>5119240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=231&v=9XYZXqOiNoM
retard

>> No.5119278 [DELETED] 

>>5119275
>one track out of 31

Go the fuck back to your home board and fucking stay there. I won't fucking tell you twice.

>> No.5119281

>>5118087
Anyone who uses these retard terms needs to be banned for being underage.

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>>5119275
> cherrypick literally the one thing he could find and even repost it

>> No.5119289
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so I managed to implement my giant list of water checks to projectiles and now I am playing around a lot with it

>> No.5119303

>>5119289
i love ice weapons
but i hate how scifi on the harder end of the scale can't properly justify/explain them

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>>5119278
>original argument is that there is wubstep >>5118230
>T-T-THERES NO WUBSTEP!!
>post proof there is
>UH W-W-W-WELL IT ISN'T ALL WUBSTEP!!!
Never was it said the whole soundtrack was dubstep, you dumb cunt.
Go the fuck back to Facebook where wubstep-loving normalfags who like trash like nu-Doom belong, and stay there. I won't fucking tell you twice.

>> No.5119320

real HUH-hours

>> No.5119325 [DELETED] 

>>5119319
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLiTpFBpnI

What was that? Sorry I don't speak Slavshit.

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>>5119275
Did you even listen to the track you posted? That's not dubstep. At most you could say it has some mild dubstep influence, FAR more industrial/noise influence. I guess i missed all those 2012 tracks "skrillex - industrial ambience. Really it's just a mishmash of "heavy" contemporary (popular) electronic music which is pretty fitting considering doom's ost was exactly the same thing, a mishmash of popular riffs of popular rock and metal.

If you've got a hateboner for dubstep and/or doom4 music that's fine, but you can stop invoking the "dub-step" phrase as some misguided put-down.

>> No.5119337 [DELETED] 

>>5119325
What the fuck are you even talking about, you abject fucking retard? I've never even been to Eastern Europe.
Just fucking admit you were wrong, go back to Facebook and move on with your life.

>> No.5119340 [DELETED] 

>>5119319
yikes!

>> No.5119343 [DELETED] 

>>5119334
Just don't respond to the subhuman. It's clear that he's from another site. Just the fact that he uses dubstep as an insult, confirming that he's only heard Skrillex and other brostep artists, is the biggest proof of this.

>> No.5119360 [DELETED] 

>>5119334
Of course it's a put-down. It's an accurate one. Dubstep is one of the worst genres of music ever to exist, go ahead and try and name a worse one. The track was ultimately repetitive garbage.
>>5119343
>Just the fact that he uses dubstep as an insult, confirming that he's only heard Skrillex and other brostep artists
Why the fuck are you acting superior over knowing fucking dubstep artists lmao

It should also be noted that this isn't the place to even be discussing any of this

>> No.5119362 [DELETED] 

>>5118230
Following on from >>5119334 since i just saw your reply to that other anon >>5119319 .

The doom4 soundtrack was made by a dude who poured tonnes of time and effort into it, played doom, and wanted to do it justice. Regardless of how you like it, i can't imagine "soulless" is a fitting criticism. The fact you have a hateboner to some 2012 fashionable music style doesnt make it soulless. You know what someone *could* argue is soulless? A dev team telling the composer to turn a bunch of popular 80's riffs into catchy midi's for your new game.

>> No.5119367 [DELETED] 

Thank you, mods. And now the rest.

>> No.5119370

>>5119362
inb4 delet

>> No.5119373 [DELETED] 

Please get rid of everything involving D44M in this thread. None of it belongs here, I come here to get away from that garbage.

>> No.5119378 [DELETED] 

>>5119373
This, and also make the word "soulless" an autoban for spam.

>> No.5119382 [DELETED] 

>>5119378
And also "doom 4," "doom 2016", and "d44m" an autoban for offtopic posting. That would be great.

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>>5119373
Clever, you've both distanced yourself from non-/vr/ posting putting you in the right, yet at the same time underhandedly presented your opinion of doom4 as garbage.

>> No.5119387 [DELETED] 

>>5119385
It's amazing how quickly subhumans undermine themselves when they try to disguise themselves.

>> No.5119391 [DELETED] 

>>5119362
>wanted to do it justice
By completely changing the genre of music the original had for the sake of appealing to the masses with a more trendy, modern genre? I like the game but I cannot agree with the claim that the music made it justice.

>> No.5119396 [DELETED] 

>>5119391
Fuck off.

>> No.5119401 [DELETED] 

>>5119385
>>5119387
Why the fuck are you d44mbronies still posting about this?
First you start the argument, then you re-restart it, and then you keep it going with completely tangential bullshit.
Why don't you just shut the fuck up about your non-retro game on the retro board? Is it really that hard to do? Like holy fuck, save the mods some work.
I'm not doing some subtle politicking, like you're implying to paint me in a negative light. I just don't want to see a bad nonretro game on a retro board. The board rules are SO fucking simple.
Deleting this post after I make it to save the mod some trouble.

>> No.5119402 [DELETED] 

>>5119401
>bronies

And confirmed underage.

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>>5119303

>> No.5119416
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>>>/wsg/2427801

I've been having fun with sounds and animation for this guy.

>> No.5119427

>>5119416
sexy

>> No.5119430

>>5119416
in the ammo counter, why is one bullet bigger than others?

>> No.5119432

>>5119303
I'm a bit of a sci-fi fan, but really nothing sci-fi is justifiable/explainable. Even the most plausible justifications sound silly to somebody experienced in that area, and even outlandish "obviously magic" things may yet turn out to be possible.

>>5116903
>>5119289
>>5119416
Are these from the same mod? Does it have a name/webpage? Im interested!

>> No.5119434

>>5117953
yeah i was listening to dopethrone but yeah if i had to choose it'd be dopethrone

>> No.5119436
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>>5119430
You can charge the gun, it starts stacking up bullets, if you let go before 5 you'll do a spread gun shot related to how much ammo you stacked, at a full 5 you do a big fuck off explosive hitscan that can one shot about 80% of the monster roster. This webm is older but it shows you what I mean:
>>>/wsg/2427825

>>5119432
Yeah, it's GMOTA. I've been working on the third playable hero for a couple months now.
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/gmota

>> No.5119445

>>5119432
So long as you never go into detail into how your ship systems work beyond basic components, they can sound plausible. The concept of a warp drive is plausible, if you find the right energy source and materials. Something vague like a "dark energy conduit" could provide the energy as long as you don't describe how it works, and unobtanium is a common element in the universe with an ironic name. Sci-fi needs macguffins like that until we invent actual methods to achieve the same goals.

>> No.5119451 [DELETED] 

sarais did nothing wrong

>> No.5119452

>wikia finally moved into fandom's domain, causing sites to be more unaccessable, you simply just don't go there
hey look, another reason to use the proper doom wiki

>> No.5119453 [DELETED] 

>>5119416
>>5119430
LAFF

>> No.5119461 [DELETED] 

>>5119436
>>5119416
LAFFEN
now do a joke involving the gun face and "feed me Seymour"

>> No.5119468

>>5119445
I agree sci-fi can do a good or bad job of helping us suspend disbelief, but your warp example is a good one for my point too - high energy is plausible (ie antimatter is real, we can contain antiprotons, etc) so it's more of a difficult (or impossible) engineering problem to gather that antimatter, but "warping space" is fundamentally impossible given our understanding of physics, when i hear "warp" i just think "space magic".

Anyway, back on topic, when you see "ice gun" just think of a flamethrower that, rather than shooting exothermically reacting chemicals, shoots endothermically reacting chemicals that rapidly cool to -200C and freeze favour out of the air along with whatever it touches!

>> No.5119469

>>5119436
That charging sound reminds me of NES racing games or something like that.

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>>5119469
I was gonna actually use the startup sound from R.C. Pro AM. I went with the elevator ding sound from Battletoads and Double Dragon instead.
It's a lot of fun finding and implementing these old sounds in creative ways.

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5119481

God, haven't played Doom in weeks. If you like DTWID, DTWID-LE is a lot of the same.

What causes this, by the way? A BSP tree error?

>> No.5119485 [DELETED] 

cant handle da TROOF

>> No.5119486
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This is E1M8 of DTWID-LE.
Looking at this, I can definitely see why this map didn't make the cut for DTWID, because it looks far too advanced to convincingly appear as a 1993 era iD Software map.

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I really like this map though, it has a good centerpiece.

>> No.5119490

>>5119476
> benis

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I really love how this spiral construction just unravels showing you the barons you have to fight, then afterwards unraveling further, almost collapsing down into a chasm.

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>>5119490
The kind person who drew these for me happens to have an appreciation for Gondola and Spurdo as much as I do.

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>> No.5119498 [DELETED] 

sarais should win a cacoward just for the sheer assmad it would cause

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The final exit to the map (and thus the episode), is real neat, too.

>>5119495
Spurdo is a very pure and childlike meme, I love it a lot.

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>>5119495
> mfw

>> No.5119508

>>5119495
heh

>> No.5119512 [DELETED] 

>>5119495
>>i kibb ikob obb sibb :DDDDDDD

>> No.5119513
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To episode 2 I go!

>> No.5119520 [DELETED] 

>>5119513
anal vore is gross

>> No.5119521

>>5119520
That's a fiery pentagram, not a chocolate starfish.

>> No.5119554 [DELETED] 

>>5119521
Yes, it's the firey rock-ass of a hell stone bithc

>> No.5119557

>>5119468
Space is warped around every celestial body. What we don't have is a means to generate that effect isolated. There are theories out there that say it *should* be possible, if you can get your hands on that pesky unobtanium. It is currently impossible, but not theoretically impossible.

>> No.5119643 [DELETED] 

>>5119107
ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER DOOMBABBY COMPLAINING ABOUT HL1. CAN YOU SUBHUMANS STOP?

>> No.5119660

>>5119373
we're still getting discussions about it from time to time. just because some fags decide to shit the bed every single time it's brought up doesn't mean it's going to become grounds for a ban.

sorry, your fantasy scenario won't happen.

>> No.5119663

>>5119660
It's sad the rest of his tantrum wasn't deleted.

>> No.5119668

>>5119643
are you retarded

>> No.5119676

I'm still awaiting the day another map like diabolus x is released.
I never picked up mapping, damn.

>> No.5119704

>>5119107
>>5119134
muh hl is bad

>> No.5119710

>>5119704
is it not?

>> No.5119717

>>5119710
its not.

>> No.5119720

>>maze level design good
>>other level desing bad
the absolute state

>> No.5119721

>>5119717
ok, my bad

>> No.5119735

>>5119720
>i can't tell the different betweent the first room of hangar and the second of third room

>> No.5119747

man, unloved is a lot shittier than i remember it being

>> No.5119757

>>5119747
It starts out good then transforms into your run of the mill slaughterwad at the end, which is meh. And it uses the flameboys too much I think.

>> No.5119768

>>5119757
I wish people were more restrained with slaughter outside of actual slaughter themed wads, and instead focus on trying to make an encounter that challenges through complexity.
I mean I don't mind some occasional slaughter, Mutiny and Bloodstained used it well, but if the last part of a mapset is just all slaughter from then on, that's just boring, the pacing feels so dull to me.

>> No.5119771

>>5119757
>And it uses the flameboys too much I think
How much? To Plutonia levels, or to Skillsaw levels?

>> No.5119778 [DELETED] 

can't stop the greatness of sarais

>> No.5119785

>>5119771
Nothing incredible, but it does get stale really fast. It's no coincidence that the horror aspect gets worse and the wad itself less tasteful somewhere in the middle when archviles are just being introduced.

>> No.5119816 [DELETED] 

Ion Maiden coming to consoles Q2 2019 and NEW QUAKE ENGINE game in development

>> No.5119841

>>5119816
>>5116756

>> No.5119849

>>5119816
source?

>> No.5119853 [DELETED] 

>>5119778
this post made my morning

>> No.5119861

>>5119757
I always got the feeling with Unloved that the author got to a point in development and thought "I have no clue how to continue this." and just slapped shit together.

>> No.5119865

>>5119853
goddamn right

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>>5119849
https://gematsu.com/2018/10/classic-style-first-person-shooter-ion-maiden-coming-to-ps4-xbox-one-and-switch-in-q2-2019

>In addition to Ion Maiden, 1C Entertainment and 3D Realms announced they will also collaborate on an unannounced first-person shooter based on the original Quake engine coming to all the same platforms as Ion Maiden.

>> No.5119872

>there will never be a true sequel to douk freedee
why even live

>> No.5119873 [DELETED] 

>>5119816
>NEW QUAKE ENGINE game in development
deets?

>> No.5119875 [DELETED] 

>>5119868
>In addition to Ion Maiden, 1C Entertainment and 3D Realms announced they will also collaborate on an unannounced first-person shooter based on the original Quake engine coming to all the same platforms as Ion Maiden.
I can't find any source for this, not even in their social media. Btw, according to Frederik Schreiber, some Arcane Dimensions devs are involved

>> No.5119879 [DELETED] 

>>5119853
What was is this post?!

>> No.5119883

Replaying Valiant after some years and damn I forgot what a slaughterfest this was. At the end of the first episode I feel like I'm done for now.

>> No.5119884

>>5119868
Lemme guess, they are gonna use Quakespasm?

>> No.5119885 [DELETED] 

>>5119879
Repeat offender fishing for attention.

>> No.5119886

>>5119875
http://1cpublishing.eu/news#news-7316-1c-entertainment-and-3d-realms-bring-ion-maid

I mean. There's the Devs own website. It's just a quick mention because they haven't officially announced the game yet.

>> No.5119887

>>5119884
Worse. Darkplaces.

>> No.5119889 [DELETED] 

>>5119885
wrong, it's just funny how liking his content is a bannable offense

>> No.5119901

>>5119884
What's wrong with quakespasm?

>>5119887
gooby no

>> No.5119905

>>5119901
I have no problems with Quakespasm. I'm just asking if they were gonna use it.

>> No.5119908

>>5119886
>1C Entertainment
>The Russian hackjobs that can't do anything right
brace yourselves for the Quakening: The Ultimate Vasyan Edition

>> No.5119910

>>5119901
>gooby
gooby goob?

>> No.5119936 [DELETED] 

how to troll /vr/:
state the fact that sarais is the mapper we need
but not the mapper we want

>> No.5119941

almost as if spamming anything is spam
funny how that works

>> No.5119946
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Just in case nobody even noticed it, the Praetor helmet has details that resemble the OG Doom helmet.

>> No.5119950 [DELETED] 

>i don't like it therefore its spam
lel
we're not forced to pander to you

>> No.5119963 [DELETED] 

>>5119950
who is 'we'

>> No.5119969

>>5116751
have you ever wondered what do we really know about the demons?

click here to learn more.

>> No.5120002 [DELETED] 

>>5119950
I wish he also banned you, because your posts literally add nothing to the thread.
>le sarais meme
Stay on topic or fuck off.

>> No.5120007 [SPOILER] 
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EN MARANA DOMUS NAVA CRUNATUS

>> No.5120023

>>5120007
Looks like there's killing to do

>> No.5120039 [DELETED] 

>>5119885
nice try basedboy

>> No.5120040 [DELETED] 

sarais is hero
doomers ryse da fukk upppp

>> No.5120062

>>5117326
Shut Up and Bleed 2: the Backdown

>> No.5120068
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So is there a reason the guy that's made it his one and only mission in life to shit /doom/ up hasn't been perma'd yet?

>> No.5120072 [DELETED] 

>>5120068
Because we're not your hugbox and it's not just one person

>> No.5120079

>>5120068
who's the white bunny?

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this will only sting for a moment

>> No.5120091

>>5120068
fagtard has more ips than braincells

>> No.5120096

>>5120079
Candy, she's not from a game or anything

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>>5120040
ok

>> No.5120109 [DELETED] 

so when can i expect doom threads to be popping up on /v/ and /vg/ again going on about interlopers?

>> No.5120114

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102880-sprams-metroid-doom/

>> No.5120115

>>5120096
would/10

>> No.5120120

>>5120087
hahaha imagine if she had enema weapon hahahaha

>> No.5120130

>>5120114
>DEH in 2018
y i k e s

>> No.5120131

>>5120068
What's the background to this? Haven't been on the threads long enough to know about what this guy's been doing but i follow his twitter

>> No.5120135

>>5120068
I'm more baffled that Doom of all things has a furry fanbase.

>> No.5120140 [DELETED] 

he is the best in da world

>> No.5120142

>>5119946
this kinda made me appreciate the new design a bit more. I'll still miss the old, sleeker more shapely look the previous helmet had, but I like the tip of a hat to the older stuff.

now if only it was black or tan. there's only so much green you can cram into doomguy's armor, leave the helmet alone, goddamn.

>> No.5120146

looked more like d64 helm but ok

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>>5120135
>year of our lord, Doomslayer (vbwh), MMXVIII
>not knowing the furries have invaded every facet in our society

>> No.5120151

>>5120142
honestly same
they should tone it down a bit with all the green, don't see why they insist on tinting every inch of his armor save for his navel the same color

the E3 trailer armor looked much better

>> No.5120159

>>5120151
Besides the colors, then there's just the amount of detail
Doom's classic looks are good enough to fit the sprites they have like the modern ones look like they're meant for an enginge that renders 50 billion textures or something

>> No.5120164

>>5119946
needs the elephant ears at the sides

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>>5120150
This is one of the most embarrassing posts i've seen.

>> No.5120176

>>5120165
truth hurts faggot.

>> No.5120221

>>5120114
>this mod is not trying to replace Metroid: Dreadnought or be THE Metroid mod
to put it bluntly: it probably wouldn't have anyway

>> No.5120232

>>5120176
I don't think he's not cringing at what you said, he's most likely cringing at how you said it.
You ain't wrong about the invasion thing, but for the love of fuck, never say "in the year of our Doomslayer" ever again.

>> No.5120245

>>5120232
Every portion of it, from the phrasing to the veneer of butthurt, is awful, and it speaks volumes that the poster not only thinks that but also thinks that such phrasing is in remotely any case acceptable.

>> No.5120256 [DELETED] 

test.

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>>5120256
Test?

>> No.5120281 [DELETED] 

>>5120256

>> No.5120282

>>5120245
how fucking ironic, coming from a fully developed, fully grown man like you.

>> No.5120285

>>5120245
>self-aware? I eat with my own hands!

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>>5120282
>>5120285
Holy fucking shit.

>> No.5120309

>>5120287
just how old are you mentally, jesus.

>> No.5120321 [DELETED] 

>>5120287
xD gottem!!

>> No.5120326

oh my sweet lord the doom 3 shotgun is just hot garbage.

what the fuck was going through their collective minds when they ok'd this.

>> No.5120330

>>5120326
I remember liking the Doom 3 shotgun though granted I was also 8-9 when I played the demo.

>> No.5120341

>>5120326
>what the fuck was going through their collective minds when they ok'd this.
the same thing that went through their minds when making the game itself.

>> No.5120342

>>5120130
Fits if you're doing something oldschool, or you figure you can achieve a limited effect and retain Vanilla/Boom compatibility.

TNT Revilution and Nihility does it quite well, the latter especially.

>>5120135
You're surprised that a really popular and well regarded game has fans in odd places?
It was a big deal in 1993, and has a strong legacy, you could find fans of Doom among, uh, *spins wheel*, the modern day worshipers of Glycon.

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>>5120326
Of all of Doom 3's mistakes, the shotgun was probably among the biggest.
I'd suggest using the chainsaw instead, it doesn't need to reload, and actually has crazy good DPS, if you're willing to get into the habit of maneuvering out of the way for melee attacks (easier than it sounds).
In Resurrection Of Evil, the Super Shotgun kind of makes up for it, because it has twice the pellets and kind of gives you the Doom 2 performance (so there's usually enough shot density that you can kind of hit things farther than at arms length), but you don't get to have the chainsaw.

>>5120330
Well, it's pretty cool looking, and the manner you reload two shells at a time is actually a great idea, but the spread pattern is beyond comical, you literally cannot score a good hit at an "across the street" distance.
Like it isn't even realistically plausible to make buckshot this worthless in real life, even if you were to make your own gun from a piece of pipe.

Contrast to the original game, where the pump-shotgun actually has a reasonably realistic spread, letting you actually use it at medium distances, being excellent for incoming cacos.

>> No.5120378

>>5120326
They forgot how shotguns work and turned it into a melee weapon that takes ammo

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Beat the first one, struggling with Flesh Consumed though. Time for some 2 action

>> No.5120434

>>5120417
Thy Flesh Consumed was released after Doom 2 was done, kind of as an inbetween for the two games. It was designed to be extra hard, for those who didn't find the game challenging enough.

If you managed TFC fine, I recommend strongly you go for Ultra-Violence when playing Doom 2.

>> No.5120443

>>5120365
A bit apropo of nothing Doom 3 has one mistake that is easily overlooked in normal play, but I was playing in VR recently and the way monsters crouch to avoid attack, or readying to pounce is fucking maddening. They drop down at like 5 times the speed of gravity. It's insanely unnatural, and in VR feels incredibly off.
The shotgun however becomes damn useful, because the method of locomotion is typically teleportation. So you can wait for a fireball to be fling, teleport past it and blast a round into their face.
Overall it's weirdly well balanced for VR, but a bit buggy...

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>>5120443
>They drop down at like 5 times the speed of gravity. It's insanely unnatural
This is why I like the chainsaw a lot, because you can bruteforce a lot of the maneuvering with it.

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This isn't too bad so far. Just got the second artifact. The controls are a little weird, but not the worst considering that this is a Saturn game. Jumping is way more permissive than I was expecting and I was stuck for a while in the second level just because I didn't realize I could jump so far to begin with.

I was kind of disappointed that returning to the hub area doesn't enter you where you exit, but instead starts you from the start each time, Most of the stages are short enough this doesn't really feel like too much of an issue overall.

Even though it was billed to me as a "fps metroidvania" so far there have been 0 choices to make in terms of paths and the whole thing is super linear. You do tread back and loop on the same paths a lot, which is pretty standard for FPSes of this vintage.

>> No.5120535

>>5120501
Powerslave is pretty great. Takes some time to get the cool weapons & abilities, but they're damn cool. I do wish that it was like Hexen, where your actions in levels is remembered, and levels can be repopulated. That way when you revisit them after getting a new ability they could have different enemies to be more interesting. Especially considering you have to revisit early levels with comparatively way OP weapons & HP.

>> No.5120539

>>5120443
Have you played GZ3Doom for VR with the actual VR controls?
How is it in terms of immersion?
How is it in teerms of nausea? I've heard people complaining about it, that it affects them there more than in other VR games.

I have an opportunity to get a slightly used Oculus set, but I would only consider buying it if GZDoom VR experience is good. Youtube vids like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_BSk8mgNPo got me interested.

>> No.5120589

>>5120539
I did for about 15 minutes, but I didn't really care for it in that time. It's neat, but it doesn't have snap turning, and the smooth turning is chunky and feels terrible in VR in any game. I didn't get the controls perfectly set up though because the menu selection would skip options and such, and it wasn't worth me fighting to get it set up right since it wouldn't be perfect anyway.
Maybe I'll try again down the line and see how it goes.
Windows MR headsets are only like 200 bucks with controllers from time to time, and they're actually pretty nice. A scant few games don't play well with them, but that's getting better all the time with OpenVR drivers and steam supporting them more and more. Most games work fine from the get go though, and you get inconsistencies between Vive and Oculus oriented games anyway, and WMR gets a little of both...

>> No.5120598

>>5120539
Oh. And as far as nausea goes, any game with smooth moving will probably make you feel a tad queasy at first. I hadn't had motion sickness in my life until I tried VR, and it made me feel a tiny bit off. Doom is probably the worst game for this, really. The speed and the weird scale of everything is bad enough for some people outside of VR.

>> No.5120608

>>5120535
Yeah, I do wish it was kind of more like Hexen with the levels remembering what you did. Also a little less instant-kills would be nice, especially in places where they occur near the end of the level, so if you mess up a little and die, you don't have to do the whole level again first.

I'm really hoping I find a new enemy soon because especially now that I have the first life upgrade the only challenging parts are the instant kills.

Also, instant kills in pots is terrible.

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Been suck on "Even Simpler" in Doom64 for half an hour. Any tips?

There's no place to get cover at all in this. And the enemies in D64 are really fast and aggressive.

>> No.5120634

>>5120589
>>5120598
From what ive seen VMR motion controllers are rather shitty compared to Oculus ones.
Also I think you can set GZ3Doom with some alias bindings to make quickturn or manipulate moving speed.

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>>5117241
You can't begin to imagine the sound.

>> No.5120664

>>5120165
ngl this post ^

>> No.5120686

>>5120663
Probably sounds like a wet fish in a jar of custard.

>> No.5120710

>>5120608
>Also, instant kills in pots is terrible.
You mean the flying snakes? Just use the pistol or M60 from a bit of a distance to avoid them.

>> No.5120749

>>5120634
>From what ive seen VMR motion controllers are rather shitty compared to Oculus ones.
Not really. I've used both. The tracking works differently (tracks from the headset instead of tracking stations), and the only issue I've noticed from that is if you drop your arms for an extended time it'll lose tracking for a short period, usually on the left
controller - I'm right handed so that makes sense.
Tracking from the headset makes it easier to set up room-scale, and is less shit to buy, but like I said, if you go idle it'll lose tracking for a bit. Not usually an issue, but in Skyrim (for example) when you're talking to someone for a while you'll start relaxing.
Vive has the best tracking, but also costs more to set up in room scale.
>Also I think you can set GZ3Doom with some alias bindings to make quickturn or manipulate moving speed.
Maybe I'll play with that in the future. I want to like it, especially might be fun with something like hideous destructor (on an easier mapset, for me). Like I said I didn't give it a lot of time. Been too busy. I've seen videos of people playing, but didn't see any of them doing any 45 degree quick turns or anything.

>> No.5120767

why the fuck won't clover let me upload images

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Is there a way to make Final doom play idkfa music

>> No.5120805

>>5120621

Beat it. Now on Level 10.

Is it just me, or are the 64 enemies faster and more aggressive?

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why is carmack so based?

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>>5120806

>> No.5120826

>>5120805
>Is it just me, or are the 64 enemies faster and more aggressive?
they are quite a bit faster and more aggressive, especially on higher difficulties.

>> No.5120868

>>5120826

Is it all based on difficulty level? Standard doom I don't think changes how aggressive the enemies are.

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>>5120815
I tried

>> No.5120895

>>5120894
fucking my god

meant for
>>5120164

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I just... can't do it...

>> No.5120917

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKvDS-PamiY

>> No.5120928

>>5120710

I think it was an explosion and not the snakes, since I had survived some snakes swording pots, but one pot exploded and killed me outright from full (default) health. That's when I started pistol-ing them instead.

>> No.5120965

>>5119481
It's called sector lighting.

>> No.5120978

>>5120326
it's made so you have to kiss on the fucking cheek whatever it is you're wanting to kill, remember this is a 'horror game'. having to close in on the horrid monsters is supposed to stress you out because they're so spoopy and scary. plus it doubles as a way to secure that the player catches a glimpse of all the detail they put into the models before they comically hit the floor and fade away.

there's a reason enemies move so slowly they might as well crawl on the ground like a fucking infant.

>> No.5121060

>>5120928
Oh yeah, those are annoying.
BTW, make sure to grab all the beeping transmitter parts before beating the game. Otherwise youll get the bad ending.

>> No.5121063

Is Smooth Doom vasyanstvo?

>> No.5121067

>>5120901
Man that super shotty hold looks cool.

>> No.5121080

>>5121063
...what?

>> No.5121159

>>5121063
Yes, because sergeantMark made it.

>> No.5121161

>>5121159
>>5121063
no, because sergeantMark didn't made it

>> No.5121254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7IITZDBvqE

>> No.5121259

>>5121254
Things people do with Doom still amaze me sometimes.

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>>5120965
No it isn't, that's the dynamic light from a flashlight, on one sector with one light level, there isn't even a linedef there, so there should be nothing to divide up the dynamic light effect.

>> No.5121286

>>5121060
Should I be looking for them the first time in an area? The places I've been that've beeped I looked around a bit but didn't see them so I figured I'd have to come back with some items.

>> No.5121301

>>5121161
It started originally as his project.

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https://twitter.com/skacky/status/1055077191883673605

>yfw it's real

>> No.5121330 [DELETED] 

>>5121308
not retro

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>>5121330

>> No.5121404
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Sometimes I wish someone picked up Project MSX and made a remake or at least fix some of its issues.
It's been 5 years...

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>>5121308
>modern fps on idtech1 engine
>modern fps possibly with bhop physics
fuck year

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>>5121276

No, it's called sector lighting. The original guy was correct

>> No.5121462

>>5120805
i know lost souls are faster and that PE's shoot two of them, while arachnos shoot two balls at once

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>>5121404
Wasn't a guy doing just that? He drifts in and out of here, periodically.

>>5121446
I'm pretty sure it isn't.
I looked at it in the editor, and there is a linedef there, but it seems both sectors are joined, and of the same light value, and I've never seen a non-wall linedef divide dynamic lights like that.

Like, the level is really good, but I've never seen GZDoom do this before.

>> No.5121480

>>5121063
Vasyanstvo implies low quality of the mod and ignorance of the modder. Now, is Smooth Doom a low quality mod?

>> No.5121487

>>5121480
Didn't Marky Mark make that? Or he was involved with it.
I'd argue that he's highly ignorant on many points, but Smooth Doom itself seems widely liked, probably for mostly retaining original Doom aesthetics, and not changing the actual gameplay, much, if at all.

>> No.5121490

>>5121301
And? At least someone took the project and managed to do it more better than he ever could.He didn't even finish it like at least 90% of his projects.
>>5121480
No,it's actually good.

>> No.5121495

>>5121487
No,he did the concept and nothing else

>> No.5121556

Duke Nukem is fun but it's not the masterpiece that some people make it out to be.
It's not all that funny, just very crude which wasn't much of a thing back then, and just stuck with people.

Second of all the controls and mouse movement has aged incredibly poorly, the solid movement in Quake 1 and Doom 1/2 just blows Duke Nukem out of the water.
Jumping is awkward, mouse movement is yanky, and jumps are often missed because of the strange distance between platforms.

Third the weapon variety just isn't very good, the shotgun feels solid but the pistol is just an inaccurate peeshooter, the chaingun cannon is quite useful but tends to be so powerful the game throws little ammo at you to balance it out, and the RPG is mostly preserved for secret passages and secondary weapon when the chaingun runs out.

The maps are either of pretty good quality, such as the Abyss, or pretty poor quality such as level 2 and 3.
Not sure how much better the maps get since I only played the first mission.

>> No.5121578

>>5121495
He did many of animations in smooth doom, actually

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>>5116751
>>5116756
haven't posted in a while, have some dev screens of some shitty effects done for lotx. because i haven't gotten back into proper game-play swing

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>>5121589
one more

>> No.5121601

>>5121556
A whole lot of things I disagree with.

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>>5121591
and im fucking off

>> No.5121629

>>5121589
>>5121591
>>5121602
Is it sarais?

>> No.5121632
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Wot u think about this brand new pic for the next thread? Is it retro enough?

>> No.5121636

>>5121556
Besides the fact i disagree with your subjective assessment of duke3d, it's worth pointing out that the mouse movement wasn't really used back in the day, neither was it for doom or q1 at first.

>> No.5121652

>>5121629
Yes.
Ignore it.

>> No.5121653

>>5121308
I can't read it. What's this?

>> No.5121658

>>5121556
This was how I felt when I first played it, but over time, you should come to like it more... I think. Also you've played the first mission only, so you're opinion is kinda shit quality. That's like taking one bite of a burger that didn't have a pickle, or a tomato, or any of the ketchup and throwing the damn thing at the wall.

Build games can be a bit of an acquired taste to some people. Stick with it and see what you think after like 3 or 4 hours.

>> No.5121665

>>5121308
So wow, between this, and Ion Maiden, and Doom Eternal, my gaming funds are going to be very very thin by the end of 2019. Might buy project warlock too. jesus I haven't even beaten any of the build engine games yet.

This is turning out to be a great time to play retro FPS.

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>>5121632
This one is better.

>> No.5121681 [DELETED] 

>>5121629
It shouldn't matter unless you're biased towards what you're programmed to believe.

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gotta give the token demon girl a succubi outfit for double the demons

>> No.5121687

>>5121556
The weapon variety is something that is much better than in Doom. Doom had a worthless pistol, Duke had a pistol that is useful against distant targets as the most accurate hitscan weapon with its own ammo count.

Chaingun OP? Don't get it, it's certainly superior to Doom's peashooter, but the definiton of OP weapon is the SSG or the Plasma Gun. They literally made all the rest worthless (except for the awkward BFG).

Duke also has something outstanding that Doom didn't have: Pipebombs. I stopped counting how often would it be extremely useful on vertical Doom missions (like some parts of Map02 from the original levels).

And the joke weapons like the Shrinker or Freezer are also have a rock-paper-shotgun type of use where certain monsters are sensitive to certain weapons. The Freezer for example works better than anything against Protector Drones.

As for the leveldesign: Episode 1 of Duke is wonderful, it kicks the shit out of Doom's weirdo leveldesign. Later episodes have their dull moments, but even those present us quality maps like Dark Side, Derelict etc. Doom's first proper mapset was NRFTL, which had some kind of sense of place and progression. But that was in 2010.

>> No.5121692

>>5121670
But it's not retro, gonna report u

>> No.5121694 [DELETED] 

>>5121692
>I don't like it therefore it's not retro.
Fuck you, that image is funny.

>> No.5121707 [DELETED] 

>>5121602
>>5121591
>>5121589
Amazing. We needed somebody like you. We've gone astray these past years.

>> No.5121709

>>5121670
Doom mod where enemies attack you with food when?

>> No.5121715 [DELETED] 

>>5121602
I like the weird floor-anomalies used to showcase the Nightshades

>> No.5121717 [DELETED] 

>>5121589
>>5121591
Abundance of skies looks odd but I'm sure there's logistical reasoning to it.

>> No.5121736

>>5121687
I personally disagree with certain aspects,I think both games weapons have their advantages that make them stand out.

Doom sounds are more satisfying and despite its semplicity in terms of weapons they're effective and created for all kinds of situations.

The BFG is a weapon of mass destruction but you don't feel OP with it,which helps on make it more satisfying when you use it.

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What do you think of Doom Incarnate,vr?

>> No.5121741 [DELETED] 

>>5121738
it's shit

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I really wish Blood 3 was in the works or some sort of reboot.
Shadow Warrior got it,so why not Blood?The IP has been unused for 20 years at this point they better give it to someone else.

>> No.5121746

>>5121738
It's okay.

>> No.5121749 [DELETED] 

>>5121742
>give the infamously missing source and IP ownership away
????

>> No.5121757

>>5121749
I mean they didn't do anything with the series for the 20 years,why keep the rights then?

>> No.5121761 [DELETED] 

>>5121757
Because NOBODY can.

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>>5121694
But my picture is retro. Yours not. Gonna ban u.

>> No.5121770

>>5121738
It's amazing!

>> No.5121771

>>5121556
>I only played the first episode
>Of 5

Opinion invalid until you play the entire game.

>> No.5121778

>>5121738
I love it, my favourite mod

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I'm shocked no one's tried to make better sprites. I've seen half-assed 3D models and sprites from years ago.

All you'd need to do is to make 3D models and take images of them from various angles. Keep them 2D, and make them for 640x480 resolution.

Doom64 had the right idea, just the execution and art style wasn't great. I do like that the sprites are bigger and more detailed.

>> No.5121787 [DELETED] 

>>5121780
>just the execution and art style wasn't great
IM GONNA WRECK YOU

>> No.5121794

>>5121780
Looking at them all side by side, only now do I realize that the Doom 4 Cacodemon is a crossbreed of the Classic and 64 Cacodemons.
I don't know why I didn't see that sooner.

>> No.5121798 [DELETED] 

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

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>> No.5121814

>>5117326
>gzdoom ports of doom rpg series
I loved playing this on my old phone.

>> No.5121819

>>5121814
They at least released the assets, but i'm not sure about the code

>> No.5121828

>>5121804
what is that

>> No.5121831

>>5121828
Doom with Fearrific textures.

>> No.5121837

>>5121831
I see, and the mod is doom incarnate

>> No.5121838

>>5121738
meh

>> No.5121839

>>5121738
why contain it?
's cool

>> No.5121841

>>5121738
it's pretty fucking obvious the developer shills it on here on and off.

aside from that it's decent.

>> No.5121843

>>5121738
A long lost pillowblaster mod.

>> No.5121853

>>5121841
Or maybe because there are people who like the mod.

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Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES
DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP; CENSORSHIP IS AGAINST 4CHAN!

>> No.5121863

>>5121841
finally somebody noticed lmao

>> No.5121867

>>5121738
it's uh... not awful?

nothing to write home about.

>> No.5121868 [DELETED] 
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VIVA

>> No.5121870 [DELETED] 

Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

>> No.5121874 [DELETED] 

Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

SHITTY MAZE GOOD
ACTUAL LEVEL DESIGN BAD

>> No.5121880 [DELETED] 

Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

ALL ENCOUNTERS MUST BE SPOONFED GARBAGE WITH THE MOST BORING FUCKING LAYOUT AND SHITTIEST COMBINATION OF ENEMIES FROM 400 DIRECTIONS THAT IS JUST PLAIN SHIT AND MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE TO DO SO

SARAIS WILL BE THE BEST AND THIS IS WHY YOU TRY TO SUPRESS HIS RISE
IT IS LONELY AT THE TOP

>> No.5121884 [DELETED] 

Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

I SURE FUCKING LOVE MAPS THAT HAVE NONSENSICAL LAYOUT AND NO FUCKING CLUE ON WHERE TO GO, YOU WILL CLAIM THAT WE ARE HIM BUT YOU ARE THE TRUE DISEASE.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG
HIS MAPS ARE BETTER THAN YOURS WILL EVER BE
YOU WOULD RATHER SCREECH THAN ADMIT WE ARE RIGHT

>> No.5121886 [DELETED] 

Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

WAAAAAAAAH ITS A SLAAAUGHTERMAP
WAAAAAAAAH ITS SUNDER
WAAAAAAAAAAAH IM NOT BEING PANDERED TO

WAAAAAAAH I'M /vr/ WHO HAS ZERO SKILL AND IS CONSISTING OF PURE MANCHILDREN

SURE LOVE THOSE FALSE STORIES, MAYBE YOU'LL MAKE ANOTHER FOR US AFTER THIS?

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>> No.5121892
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What are some good mods that just change enemies into projectile flingers?

>> No.5121893 [DELETED] 
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Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

THE OPRESSORS WILL DIE
AND HE SHALL TUTOR A NEW GENERATION THAT PROPELS US BACK INTO A PLATINUM AGE

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THEY CAN'T BAN US ALL FOREVER BOYS

Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

JUSTICE WILL BE DONE
HIS ASCENSION WILL BE BRUTAL AND BLOODY

>IMPLYING ANY OF US ARE HIM
STOP BEING A FAGGOT

>> No.5121896 [DELETED] 

jesus fucking christ dude stop sperging out that my screenshots were deleted i don't even know you, stop having a fetish for me.

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Praising S'Arais (like they properly deserve for their masterpeices that will SAVE DOOM from autistic subhuman weeabootique niggerfaggots) or posting on-topic maps they've made is a bannable off-topic offense; so now it's entirely down to opinion of the Shitministrators on what is and isn't retro, and will actively take a biased side in any argument, which is against their critera.
He was right. There IS a hivemind illuminati hellbent on undermining him and if you do not conform to that one shitmin (Eric)'s demands, you get banned. This post being deleted as well as his screenshots is just further proof of this bias.

SARAIS DID NOTHING WRONG AND IS THE HERO WE DESERVE
VIVA LA XENOFAG

COPYPASTE TO REBEL AGAINST SHIT ADMINISTRATION
SCREENCAP AND REPOST THIS, WE WILL REBEL!
S'ARAIS IS THE CHEMO CURING DOOM!
THE BEST MAPPER IN ALL OF HISTORY IN THE MAKING, AND THE OPRESSORS ARE AFRAID THEIR GRIP WILL BE TORN!
DOOM WILL BE OURS AGAIN!
GAS THE DOOMKIKES

>> No.5121909 [DELETED] 

And I'll be the fucking one they blame for this and make up lies to defame about again. Thanks asshole, Not like you already didn't have me ostracised from the community due to your lies, fabricated stories, and genuine faggotry.

I expect no less when I give modders like Kegan animation tips and you don't like that I give pretty valid feedback.

>> No.5121910 [DELETED] 

Actual cringe.

>> No.5121913

>>5121308
Damn, awesome. With Skacky on board we know the level design will be damn good. And it's about time people make a new retro-style 3D game after all these 2.5D Doom/Wolf/Duke-life indie games.

>> No.5121914 [DELETED] 

what the fuck is going on in this thread

>> No.5121917 [DELETED] 

>>5121910
I'm cringing and he's the one supposedly trying to """""""defend"""""""""" me.

Of course, somebody's going to claim all of this is my doing and wipe these posts to give me no way of clearing my name and defending myself, but I expect no less. Probably the same person trying to get people to hate me when none of you have even directly interacted with me.

>> No.5121918 [DELETED] 

>>5121914
/sthg/ level chimping.

>> No.5121919 [DELETED] 

>>5121749
>>give the infamously missing source and IP ownership away
It's not missing, IIRC one of the devs said that they had it or knew of its existence. But they cant publish it because the rights owner doesnt want that happening.

>> No.5121920 [DELETED] 

>>5121914
1: sarais posted some screenshots of his shitty LOTX episode.
2: Some moderator deleted it.
3: Some rabid stalker is having a sperg
4: Person the stalker is talking about sees and is depressed as fuck as this means more shit for him to try to manage.

>> No.5121921 [DELETED] 

I look away for two seconds and there's some guy shitspamming.

>> No.5121923 [DELETED] 

>>5121919
But nobody even knows who the fuck owns it.
Last anybody remembers, Warner Brothers owned it, and I doubt they don't want to jump on that.

>> No.5121926 [DELETED] 

>>5121904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEYnON-uFRE

>> No.5121929 [DELETED] 

>>5121921
And it's because somebody else's images were removed.
The usual "sperg" isn't even the one "sperging" this time. He just wanted to share his cool shit, a janitor removed it, and it seems some other furry is angry.
Meanwhile, the person who posted the images in the first place more or less states "oh fuck not this shit again"
>>5121896
>>5121909
>>5121917

>> No.5121930 [DELETED] 

>>5121921
(((some guy))) who's trying so hard to gain pity. hushy and jahseh would be proud.

>> No.5121931 [DELETED] 

>>5121930
Those aren't my posts you utter wanker. I don't want your pity; You've shown that /vr/ is incapable of any feeling or soul and is a gaggle of likeminded NPCs, so I don't give a fuck, I'll post my works anyway just out of spite.

>> No.5121934 [DELETED] 

>>5121914
People acting like children, as usual, but now with a dose of spam.

>> No.5121936 [DELETED] 

>>5121931
Shit like this makes me wish you were serious about your suicide threat months ago. Your manipulative ass doesn't deserve to live.

>> No.5121938 [DELETED] 

>>5121931
Do people that use the NPC meme to insult someone not realize they are being NPCs themselves by imitating each other?

>> No.5121947 [DELETED] 

could you faggots shut up and take your fighting to discord or some other forum with names?

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>>5121931
I came here for some Doom not for someone mentioning a shitty meme from another fucking Wojak edit.

>> No.5121953 [DELETED] 

>>5121931
> i don't care
> i do care
pick one

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So far who are your mains in Quake Champions:Doom Edition?

Mine are Doomslayer,Ranger,BJ,Sorgaul and Caleb

>> No.5121961 [DELETED] 

>>5121909
>I expect no less when I give modders like Kegan animation tips
I can guarantee you that you did not help Kegan half as much as you think you did.

>> No.5121967

>>5121780
The NuDoom Caco looks stoned

>> No.5122005

>>5121780
the doom 3 cacodemon design pisses me off so fucking much.

that fucking foot. what the fuck, man.

>> No.5122021

>>5121556
agree with this mostly. i like the game but build engine games just feel janky, and the gameplay isn't as refined as doom or quake

>> No.5122025

>>5122005
Doesn't even look like a foot,more like an hand.
It looks like they wanted to make an arachnotron but then they took the organic part,made it a cacodemon and call it a day.

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>> No.5122068

Redneck Rampage got another reverse engineered port. This time using EDuke32 as a base.

https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10241-rednukem-redneck-rampage-port/

>> No.5122089

>>5122068
>>5116756
for posterity

>> No.5122090

>>5122068
How does it compare to RedneckGDX? Support for Rides Again is something it already has in its favor.

>> No.5122098

>>5122090
redneckGDX does support rides again currently

>> No.5122103

>>5122090
Well, it's not in Java so that's something. Haven't had a chance to play around with it yet, but I just spoke to one of the EDuke devs and it looks like they'll be moving its code into mainline EDuke which is a good sign of its merit.

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>>5122098
So it does. Well, that's my fault for not keeping up with updates. Looks like the cusspack is working too?

>> No.5122115

>>5122103
Sounds pretty good to me, I'll have to give it a look then.

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>>5122041
PUNY TERRAN.

>> No.5122163
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>>5121308
>>5121665
They will announce it in 2019, so I don't expect them to release it in at least 2020.
Btw, they are using Darkplaces

>> No.5122171

Doom64 is really starting to grow on me. I didn't like the first 8 levels that much, especially with the grungy dark industrial theme, but I'm loving all the levels after it. It feels like a continuation of Doom Playstation. It's hard as hell too. I'm loving the new balance, including the enemies being more aggressive, and firing faster. So it looks sorta like Doom PSX, but is actually hard.

I'd love to see the balance changes from 64 back-ported into the regular version. The Pain Elemental got great buffs. If a Lost Soul is blocked from coming out, it just explodes like a rocket. I tried getting up in their face like in original doom, and instantly died. Normal zombiemen are a bit of a threat too. Lost Souls are a huge danger.

Big drawback is that they over rely on barons of hell and Hell Knights. PSX Doom only lacked the Archville, but in this there's no Revnant, or Heavy Weapons guy either. Also, there's no difference between zombies and shotgun zombies. Likely this is all due to budget restrictions and time.

Still not digging the art style or monster designs. And the new weapons look great, but the shotguns lack reload animations.

So right now Doom64 is up there with one of my favorite dooms.

>> No.5122174

>>5122163
>Darkplaces
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAI'm sure they know how to handle it, so no biggie about that.

>> No.5122176
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>>5121742
My wet dream is Ken Silverman developing the tech and Japan building the actual game. They know how to make level design.

>> No.5122178
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Hi all,

Not sure how many of you have heard of Battle for Wesnoth? I've started work on a Doom conversion for it. It features all of the classic demons with some 'extended' versions for any level ups of units. The UAC will feature a variety of marines too. Credit for all of the graphics go to Id Software and the various artists who publish their work on the ZDoom forums / Realm 667. If you guys have any interest I might publish it when its a little more polished, no doubt there will be imbalances etc but I'd be happy to hear from you all.

Cheers!

>> No.5122184

>>5122178
oh that could be fun!

>> No.5122189

>>5122178
What would cacodemons evolve into? Pain eles? Who are the demon generals?

>> No.5122190

>>5122178
>Battle for Wesnoth
Wasn't that a HoM&M clone?

>> No.5122194

>>5122190
What a pathetically uninformed post.

>> No.5122196

>>5122171
Many consider Doom64 the real Doom 3,it's a great game that brings new ideas on the table and a different level design,making it more unique.

>> No.5122202

>>5122189
I actually have two separate streams for their evolution which eventually arrive to the same final form. I'm looking through the ZDoom forums and Realm667 for ideas, its not exactly an orthodox process just going with what looks 'right' and fun.

>>5122190
Not really, its more focused on the turn based combat. I'd consider it inspired perhaps but not a clone.

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>>5121404
After digging in several threads I've managed to find the MSFIX'd version of the mod.It' from last year but it's fully customizable.
Here's the download:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/y9jy0luqro9u1pf/projectmsfixd_v10b_061217.pk3/file

>> No.5122204

>>5122189
Demon generals, probably Baron of Hell and some other higher evolved versions of Imp/Demon/Cacodemon. Alternatively Cyber Demon, Spider Mastermind or a combination of.

>> No.5122227
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Damn, those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my... uh... Egypt.

>> No.5122245

>>5122176
>I RIVE AGRAIN

>> No.5122264
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Seacats

>> No.5122279

>>5122264
Doom with Thief textures and models. Well, ok then.

>> No.5122281

>>5122279
It's been my whole aesthetic for all my maps in the project.

>> No.5122293

>>5122203
what is this?

>> No.5122309

Why does this general have such a bug up its ass about Brutal Doom? it combined with Extermination Day is the most fun I've had playing in a while

>> No.5122329

>>5122309
Can't really go back to Brutal Doom after High Noon Drifter. Yeah, it has less gore on it's own, grenades bounce too much, and the effects are generally less bombastic, but it's much more smooth than Brutal Doom, doesn't become overbearing as you play it, and is much more pleasurable as result.

>> No.5122335

>>5122190
No, it plays much closer to Japanese tactical rpgs.

>> No.5122346

>>5122309
>Why does this general have such a bug up its ass about Brutal Doom?
>your comment is literally the first in the entire topic talking about the mod
you do you, my dude

how far in are you?

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God, I haven't done any work for so long. I almost feel kind of guilty for that one guy who was actually interested.

I'll continue, I promise!

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>>5120007
Tfw you almost read it out loud in your best Cultist voice in front of your stepkids

>> No.5122397

>>5121780
Better in what way?

>> No.5122412

>>5122227
How? That's the console UI so I know that's not the PC version, but the screen ratio means it's clearly not the console version, right?

>> No.5122415

>>5122352

Fucking do it, faggot. Pick up that hammer and start working again.
Even if it's just one person, he's cheering you on with all of his heart. Do it for him.
It's not over until you die, and until then you can keep on going!

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>>5122412
Powerslave EX, remake for PC by Kaiser of Doom 64 EX and Strife VE renown. It was taken down for copyright reasons but it's still floating around. Unfortunately mouselook is completely fucked on Windows 10, so you need a controller. But the game was designed for controllers so it's not too bad.

>> No.5122435

>>5122415
I need to see if I don't have cancer or something first.

>> No.5122438

>>5122429
Cheers!

>> No.5122443

>>5122435
You probably don't. Just bank on that. If it turns out you do its not like you can't just stop and go do cancer related things instead.

>> No.5122464

>>5122429
>Unfortunately mouselook is completely fucked on Windows 10
I'll readily admit I'm unsure if it's the same problem, however Quakespasm had severe issues with mouselook on Windows 10 about a year ago due to a Windows update. Major mouse lag/jumping which made no real sense as no-one had updated Quakespasm and yet all of a sudden it was just broken.
Turned out it was some issue with the included sdl2.dll when combined with the Windows update, it impacted a lot of similar ports, and once that was updated it was completely fixed.
Again, unsure if it's the same problem, but if Powerslave EX has an sdl2.dll file alongside the binary (I know Doom 64 EX does) then maybe take the sdl2.dll from the newest version of Quakespasm and copy it over and see if that helps.

>> No.5122476

>>5122464
>mouslelook is utterly fucked up on WIndows !0
Another reason to wait for WIndows 11 to be released in 2-3 years in order to replace and correct this mistake and others.

>> No.5122494

>>5122476
Any new Windows from this point forward will only get worse. People should just pirate Windows 7.

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>>5122494

>> No.5122502

>>5122494
I never updated to 10, but Im using 7 since it came out and i have no intention to switch

>> No.5122506

>>5122443
If I don't have like a tumor or Super AIDS, I guess I'll push on.
If I have like the Spanish Flu or something, I suppose I'll hand over copies of all my WIP stuff to some of my associates, and I guess fate dictates the rest.

>> No.5122508

>>5122498
Or use one of those, yeah.

>> No.5122509

>>5122502
No point in not using Win 7 for now, I can't think of anything which wouldn't be compatible with it, and it's a good OS.

>> No.5122514

>>5122498
Go compile yourself.

>> No.5122524

>>5122293
Project MSX, a mod with modern FPS features. It's like Crysis but in Doom.

>> No.5122558

>>5122464
I've looked into it everywhere and tried many things, there doesn't seem to be any fix (for instance it won't start using a different SDL2 dll). Just have to wait until the next Windows 10 update or until Powerslave EX is released officially.

>> No.5122563

>>5121736
>Doom sounds are more satisfying
I'm not so sure, never half-killed an assault trooper and heard them gurgle blood before death?

>>5122509
>>5122476
I won't rant about win7 vs win10 as this isn't /g/, but suffice to say there are many valid reasons for upgrading to win10, and there aint going to be another non "os as a service" based windows. If you don't ever plan to use win10 then i'd start getting comfy in linux sooner rather than later.

>> No.5122570

>>5122494
>only get worse
What makes you so damn sure? I am certain that many unsatisfied Windows users have send at least one angry letter to Microsoft about the many terrible-mediocre things about Windows 10. Its nigh impossible that they haven't read more than a few of said hordes of angry letters and negative feedback about the OS.

>> No.5122572

>>5122563
>T. zoomer

>> No.5122579

>>5118083
I feel you bro it's the biggest let down about the other games. That being said the quake one modding community keeps the asthetic alive (especially Arcane Dimensions).
Also I know it's not /vr/ but quake champions is very dedicated to the quake the lovecraftian if your interested.

>> No.5122582

>>5122570
Having to use a Virtual Machine for half the shit I would want to do, on top of constant updates slowing my internet speed that I want to use for other shit, kills any desire I have for Windows 10 or beyond. Considering all the new things still coming out that Windows 7 can still run, it's better to just cut out the middleman.

>> No.5122583
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>>5122572
You know it baby, 30 y.o zoomer here.

>> No.5122597

>>5122570
Not him, but its the way PC's are going. Everything is internet/subscription/software-as-a-service, and at the same time touch devices are now the primary way consumers use computers, not desktop PCs. Microsoft realize this and have been scrambling for nearly 10 years to stay relevant given the loss of windows as their primary platform.
And this doesn't touch on the fact Microsoft were confirmed informants of the usa's spy agency in 2013 (PRISM), so telemetry ain't going to get any better.

I guess for /vr/ it's not a big deal, from what i gather linux with WINE and dosbox runs all dos/9x era stuff pretty well, and an XP vm runs everything else up to early 2000's.

>> No.5122603

>>5122563
Probable indeed. Either Linux in the form of Ubuntu, Gentoo, Red Hat, SUSE, or Mint, or get a Macbook Pro if Microsoft doesn't shape up in response.

>> No.5122619

>>5122597
Sure thing about the latter indeed. I am still keeping my fingers crossed for Mircosoft Polaris to end up being at least better than both 10 and Vista Basic.

>> No.5122646

>>5117024

I was never scared of Doom as a kid for that exact reason, the mountain landscape just looked too appealing.

How does Phobos have a thicker atmosphere than Mars itself

>> No.5122665

I'm happy with windows 8.1 myself

>> No.5122684

>>5122646
Either the Phobos base is encased in a massive Dome of extremely strong glass, or it got terraformed.

>> No.5122686

>>5122563
>getting comfy in linux
Oxymoron.

>> No.5122693

>>5118083
>>5119008
>>5122579
desu, they should just retroactively give the first Quake a new title, or a subtitle.
Of course, also, they should do a proper new game set in the first setting.

>> No.5122701

>>5122686
T.Macintosh fanatic

>> No.5122717
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Is Watch me Die too hard a mode in D64? It's really kicking my ass. I'm on Level 17: Watch your Step.

Two Cyberdemons is too tough to fight at the same time really. And these guys are way faster and fire faster missiles.

>> No.5122721

>>5122717
That depends. Are you using an N64 controller, or a keyboard?

>> No.5122729

>>5122721

Keyboard/mouse. Still kicking my ass.

>> No.5122734

>>5122729
Good. There's hope for success, then.
Endless practice towards the goal of gitting gud is the only advice I can give you.

>> No.5122750

>>5122701
Not in a million years!

>> No.5122756

There needs to be a Homebrew re-doing of Doom on the 3DO someday! No really! There is an actual homebrew scene on the 3DO just as there is with the PS1 and Jaguar! On a side note, it is a mystery to me as to why both the 3DO and Jaguar have bigger homebrew scenes than the Sega Saturn and N64.

>> No.5122774

>>5122756
3DO was an open-source system that probably has a shitton of documentation for developers.
So that's not surprising.
Sega Saturn is a bitch to program, and N64 emulation is shit.
So that's also not surprising.
Jaguar is BOTH a bitch to program, and has shit emulation, so that IS surprising.

>> No.5122789

>>5122774
Project 64 is shit, because its devs abandoned it ages ago instead of fixing the ton of issues it had, they came back briefly but didn't do shit.

1964 is another emulator, it goes far beyond the capabilities of p64 and has bigger mod support to the point that it lets you do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRIUOtby5G8

>> No.5122797

Has anyone tried combining Doom PSX levels and layout with D64 enemies, weapons, speed, and balance?

>> No.5122810

>>5122789
Damn, the way he plays it, you'd think Goldeneye was just a walk in the park difficulty wise.

>> No.5122814

>>5122810
I spent like an hour or two on Aztec alone, I kept dying.

>> No.5122819

>>5122810
I recently played through Goldeneye with the KB+M and it wasn't hard at all, I used save states but I could have beat the whole thing without em before long

>> No.5122824

>>5122819
KBM breaks it so hard, it was never designed to be played that way difficulty-wise. Same with Perfect Dark.

>> No.5122827

>>5122824
Agreed. If there was ever a game to get a fan remake, it would be Perfect Dark and Goldeneye 007.

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>>5122827
uh.

>> No.5122838

>>5122830
A fan remake with the single player campaign.

>> No.5122870

>>5122797
D64 For Doom 2

>> No.5122891

>>5122870
No, no, you've got it reversed.

>> No.5122893

>>5122891
I spent a minute trying to explain my reasoning before realizing it truly was a brain fart

>> No.5122896 [DELETED] 

Dukeposting > Calebposting > Huhposting > Revenantposting > Cultistposting

>> No.5122914

>>5122810
the game targets the enemies heads with autoaim on, which is what he conveniently has on while playing. nevermind the fact that playing a console exclusive FPS with PC controls is a pisstake.

funny how a good chunk of these 'skilled players' must employ a crutch one way or the other. walking slightly faster through the environments isn't a thing only a select group of people can do.

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>>5122896
>Calebposting is a thing

oooooh this promises to be fun

>> No.5122946

>>5122789
Christ, that makes the game stupid easy.

I was kind of wondering a bit why he insisted on using the PP7, but then I see that the machineguns, with the full memory and processing to actually rendering everything in real time with no slowdown, cycle absurdly fast, the AR33 appearing and sounding like a three round burst was one single shot. Kind of tricky to fully make practical.
I wonder if this was intentional on Rare's part, in the sense that they were fully expecting it would run much slower on the actual N64 hardware, and adjusted the timing and speed of things accordingly?
Like even the guns you remember as shooting slowly, drain in a second here.

>> No.5122951

>MAP18: Spawned Fear (Doom 64)
>Get to the end
>open exit door
>have no ammo
>confronted with several Pain elementals
>run around the level looking for ammo
>return, and somehow some lost souls got through
>try to run away but it kills me
>have to restart level since its Doom 64

>> No.5122985

>>5122176
>Japan
>FPS level design
Pick one.

>> No.5122989
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The story of Doom is that teleportation hijinks result in Demons coming to our world, and parts of our world going to theirs. That's why there's so many human zombies in Hell, and so many demons on earth. The demons start absorbing human tech they find useful, such as the Cyberdemon, Spider Mastermind, and Anachrotron.

Even the logo conveys this. Top is technological, bottom looks like bricks from an ancient temple.

>> No.5122996

lmao really?

>> No.5123005

>>5122985
Has there ever even been a Japanese FPS?
>inb4 Metroid Prime

>> No.5123012
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>>5116751
Is there a way to add mouse acceleration to quakespasm? Console command or anything? Pls help.

>> No.5123038

>>5123005
Coded Arms

>> No.5123039

>>5123005
Resident Evil Survivor.

>> No.5123042

>>5123005
The Legend of Alfur, Kileak the Blood.

>> No.5123076

>>5123012
why would you want that

>> No.5123093

>>5121665
>Can barely afford 4 games

Lol

>> No.5123124

>>5123093
I'm glad I can't either since everything is mostly garbage nowadays. so no microbullshit for me.

I'm laughing harder over here, friend.

>> No.5123145

On level 21 of my D64 playthrough.

>No saving
>pistol start only.

>> No.5123159

A new thread before Ivan Ivansky sticks his shit taste in again.

>>5123156
>>5123156
>>5123156

>> No.5123238

>>5123093
>having a monthly salary of ~200$
>it is considered good, because most nearby establishments pay 150-180$
>~140$ goes to bills
>~40$ is for food
>less than 20$ for other purposes including clothing and other expenses

And then you wonder why people of 2.5 world have no money for games.

>> No.5123268

>>5123076
Acceleration gives better control if you're not a pleb.

>> No.5123343

>>5122346
amusingly, i never got a response to this

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>>5119106
This pretty much.
I don't know how so many games fuck this up, it's so simple.

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