Roguelikes

[Anonymous No.5113671]

Anyone on this board interested in sharing about some of your favorite moments or games? Seeing as to old school roguelikes being as retro as it gets, and with me picking up Qud and UnReal World this week, thought I'd ask

[Anonymous No.5113678]

On the same note, do you guys count games like Dawrf Fortress/Qud that are more recent (yet purposely built on an outdated but beloved system) retro in spirit or just in style? How about games that came out a long time ago but are still being added on to and developed? Retro or no?

[Anonymous No.5113715]

Any good ones I can emulate/buy on my phone

[Anonymous No.5113730]

>>5113715
Nethack

[Anonymous No.5113745]

>>5113715
Powder isn't quite retro but is a lot of fun.

Rogue was one of my favorite games when I was young and I eventually went hack and beat it in my 20s then moved onto Nethack and dabbled in a bunch of others over the years. I think when they're good it's one of the best genres there is.

[Anonymous No.5113751]

>>5113715
I'd recommend trying these on PC first as it's 100% keyboard based. The mobile versions can be very aggravating to click through all the menus to do a simple action like eat. Aside from that, Nethack is the only oldschool rogue that's mobile-available.

[OP No.5113756]

>>5113745
I haven't played rogue but it and dark days ahead are on my list of "soon to play"

[Anonymous No.5113850]

>>5113678
>in spirit or style?
Don't give a fuck if it is in retro spirit or style, if it wasn't released before the cutoff it's still not fucking retro. If it came out back then, and STILL can be ran on old hardware, it's retro even if it's still being developed.

So, Rogue and Nethack and maybe a few others are allowed around here. For the rest, there's a /rlg/ general thread on /vg/. Granted, most of the users are autistic fucks who spend more time arguing over which variant of DCSS is the only acceptable version, but you can still get some decent info out of them. Too bad most of them forgot what having fun means, and will screech endlessly if you do anything that isn't the most optimal build/strategy. Don't mention CDDA, the lack of endgame still makes them angry.

[OP No.5113902]

>>5113850
I wasn't asking for board rules, desu, I was asking your opinions/experiences : ) I'm new to roguelikes honestly and forgot all about Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. And with the lack of endgame content comment on CDDA, eh, most open-ended vidya suffers from the same problem. I guess I'm really just trying to get some feedback from people who have dedicated hundreds of hours, being a newfag to this genre

[Anonymous No.5114963]

>>5113850
>if it wasn't released before the cutoff it's still not fucking retro

Someone doesn't know how to read the rules lol. Nice meltdown though.

[Anonymous No.5114971]

My only high-level ADOM character was a Dwarven Priest who was about to make his ascend into the Tower of Eternal Flames (a successful ascension there pretty much marks the "mid-late" point of the game). Never seen the inside of the ToEF before and prepared for it dilligently with fireproof blankets, rings of ice and whatnot.

I was like 12 years old at the time, to add context. A friend of my older brother shows up and goes like:
>What's that?
>ADOM
>Looks gay
And he turns off the power from my computer.
ADOM didn't do backup saves during that time, so the character was completely gone. Just like that.
To this day, I've never beaten ADOM.
Nowadays, I just play DoomRL every so often, but it's not retro.

[Anonymous No.5114972]

>>5113715
Sil

[Anonymous No.5115010]

>>5114971
I hope you got better friends eventually.

DoomRL is indeed pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.5115076]

I found a room full of gnomes in nethack once.

[Anonymous No.5115085]

>>5115076
Clearing out the gnome mines for loot was one of my go to goals for ascening back in the day.

[Anonymous No.5115297]

>>5113671
Almost had an illiterate ascension in nethack 3.4.3 when some viewer on nao thought it would be funny to send me a mail scroll which I unthinkingly read. It said 'haha fuck you' ._.

[Anonymous No.5115426]

I've got a question.

Since the boys at /g/ aren't responding, might as well ask it here.

Can anyone help me with installing Cataclysm DDA on Linux? I really want to install it, but it's just not working. Don't even know where I fucked up.

[Anonymous No.5115443]

>>5113671

[Anonymous No.5115516]

>>5115426
what did you do and what did it say

[Anonymous No.5115525]

>>5115297
Sweet christ that is just straight-up evil.

[Anonymous No.5115601]

I just started getting into Nethack
Run I just did was really fun
I had low HP in the Gnomish Mines so I had to start zapping niggers with magic missiles
I like how you can identify wands by writing on the floor with them
Then once I got my HP back up I died because I fell on a teleport trap and got sent to a room with like 100 monsters and got gangraped
Any way to detect traps before you step on them?

[Anonymous No.5115604]

>>5115443
you know you can kick doors open

[Anonymous No.5115750]

>>5114971
Should've broken his neck.

[Anonymous No.5115807]

>>5115516
I tried to install it, got the repository from git, got the other repositories through the terminal, tried "make TILES=1" and it told me "nah."

[Anonymous No.5115816]

>>5114972
This. Sil is excellent.

[Anonymous No.5115828]

>>5115601
Search before taking every step. marvin used to do this to get 30+ game ascension streaks

[Anonymous No.5115838]

Yell: NIGGA IM STRAPPED, BACK THE FUCK OFF
*A zombie moves towards you*

[Anonymous No.5115846]

>>5114972
It keeps crashing on start up

[Anonymous No.5115850]

I like to play as the Barbarian class in Nethack, is it good?
People say Valkyrie is better, and Tourist has a pretty nice starting inventory, but Barbarian works well for me and Barbarians are just fun to be in any game.

[Anonymous No.5115856]

>>5115850
Also how do I know which weapons are good

[Anonymous No.5115860]

What's the difference between nethack and nethack:pathos

[Anonymous No.5115871]

>>5115850
>I like to play as the Barbarian class in Nethack, is it good?
Yes. Valkyrie is the ultimate noob starter, but overall, your learning experience should be the same. Valkyrie gets easy access to Excalibur, as well as Orb of Fate and Mjollnir, while Barb's early items aren't as great; also, Dwarves > Orcs and there are a number of small complications that ultimately make Valkyrie easier to ascend. However, your starter goal anyway should be to "survive a couple hundred turns", and Barbarian does that splendidly. As a newbie, you really can't go wrong with Valk, Samurai, Barb or Wizard (spamming spells is actually really good in roguelikes; it funnels you through the early game handily, and the late game is great. The main problem with Wiz is that their low HP and weak melee capability makes them prone to some unfortunate instadeath incidents. Still, a good beginner character in my opinion.)

[Anonymous No.5116125]

Bump

[Anonymous No.5116138]

Is killing shopkeepers a good idea in Nethack or is it like Spelunky where shopkeepers will be hostile for the rest of the game

[Anonymous No.5116170]

Why did my dog turn into a throne

[Anonymous No.5116175]

>>5116138
game culture frowns upon killing izchak but otherwise, if you can do it and handle the consequences, go for it.

[Anonymous No.5116275]

>>5115297
I thought reading a scroll of mail didn't break illterate status? Or use a turn, for that matter, it's just an in-game way to open your text based mail client, yeah? Then you're back in the game and no time has elapsed.

[Anonymous No.5116458]

My experience today:
>Military pilot
>Plane crashed
>Bleeding severely
>Cold
>Nothing eat
>Go looking for supplies to survive
>Examine plant
>"datura"
>fuck it.
>Eat 2 seeds
>Hallucinate for the rest of the game
>Die.

[Anonymous No.5116540]

>>5113715
nethack has arguably the only decent port

angband is just unplayable

[Anonymous No.5117020]

>>5116458
I knew a kid who tried getting high on datura and he got violently ill and had hallucinations of math class lol

[Anonymous No.5117083]

Any good roguelites on phone?

[Anonymous No.5117136]

>>5117020
Yeah, I heard crazy shit about datura. Immediately knew what it was gonna do. Kept seeing hallucinations, so assumed everything was one. The zombie horde turned out to be real.

[Anonymous No.5118119]

>>5117083
Nethack works surprisingly well

[Anonymous No.5118326]

Shiren the Wanderer on Snes.

It is balls to the wall hard but not unfair like spelunky, people that say it sucks play it at the pace their ADHD brain can handle and die because they rush everything.

Its a game you must play cautiously and it rewards you for being cautious.
Think you're not gonna make it? You can send your gear back to the hub so at least you only lose levels.

[Anonymous No.5118419]

>>5113678
They are not retro but as long as they keep the feel of traditional roguelikes they are great to play. Infra Arcana is my favorite, but I play several. The Ground Gives Way is a good beginner one as is Sproggiwood.

[Anonymous No.5118431]

>>5118326
>unfair like spelunky
How the fuck is Spelunky unfair

[Anonymous No.5120153]

>>5113730
>>5116540
>nethack
the mobile controls are terrible though, Powder's mobile port has the best control scheme I've seen, but the game itself is lacking.

[Anonymous No.5120274]

>Spawn
>Surrounded by 50 zombies
>Die after taking 5 down
Welp.

[Anonymous No.5122392]

>>5118326
Shiren is literally just wasting 20 runs to improve equipment and stocking warhouses before making any serious attempt, and even then you can have the greatest run ever only to get stunlocked to death before you know it.

[Anonymous No.5122427]

Elona and ToME.

>>5120153
I played the Powder port on PSP and it was excellent. Every other version was dogshit on controls for some reason.

[Anonymous No.5122979]

>>5113678
Qud has some old school sensibilities, but it really does come from the modern school of roguelikes even if it isn't to the same extent as something like Brogue or Sil.
DF on the other hand is very old school but also so much it's own thing that there really isn't much to compare it too.

[Anonymous No.5122980]

>>5120153
What? Nethack is the only roguelike I've found with acceptable roguelike controls. It isn't like those dreadful Angband or DCSS ports.

[Anonymous No.5122981]

>>5122392
Never seen someone express this sentiment.
I even hear people suggest completely ignoring warehouses.