What game would you say has the best music? A lot of the games in the SNES/Gen era would have one or two good tracks, but what would be a game with almost all tracks sounding great?

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Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:13:15 2013 No.510989 [Reply] [Original]

What game would you say has the best music? A lot of the games in the SNES/Gen era would have one or two good tracks, but what would be a game with almost all tracks sounding great?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:14:15 2013 No.510994 >>510989 Mega Man X

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:17:45 2013 No.511023 Donkey Kong Country 2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:30:15 2013 No.511126 File: 611 KB, 450x3857, 1345605471088.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Picture related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:32:16 2013 No.511149 >>511023 This. Probably Mario RPG as a close second.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:33:15 2013 No.511158 Yeah, Megaman X, X2 and X3 Saturn/PS version. If I had to choose from those 3, probably X1. Megaman 2 also has a pretty amazing soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:41:46 2013 No.511218 >>511023

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:49:46 2013 No.511280 File: 8 KB, 259x194, sor2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-B3Q0cRrY goosebumps

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:51:16 2013 No.511294 >>511280 that one is good but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfSz06Qtco get on my level

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:51:46 2013 No.511302 >>511280 LET'S THROW THAT SHIT INTO HIGH GEAR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFbI2JWPUfU

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:53:15 2013 No.511308 final fantasy mystic quest mediocre game god tier soundtrack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMYXYewC0Y0

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:56:46 2013 No.511337 File: 35 KB, 94x116, 6-4-11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Let's see.... Pretty much all Sonic games for the Genesis. Megaman X Chrono Trigger obviously Street Fighter 2

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:58:46 2013 No.511345 >>510989 Sonic CD >hands down

Anonymous Sun Apr 21 20:58:46 2013 No.511346

>>511308
http://youtu.be/2upPEhhzTTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUGDp39srk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZOQ8sLO-vU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJQK0ZvSgj0

seriously listen to those buy this game its cheap as fuck and its not as bad as people say it is. It is really really easy but entertaining enough for that music.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:00:45 2013 No.511361 >>511294 man every single song in the game is fantastic, i couldn't pick a favorite even if there's debate regarding whether or not it is the GOAT, it's at least the best soundtrack on the genesis

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:00:45 2013 No.511362 >>511345 Oh yes, especially the US&JP soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:02:45 2013 No.511375 >>511361 I dunno some of his other shit comes close like revenge of shinobi omg that shit is so good too

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:06:15 2013 No.511401 Mega Man 2 hands down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:16:45 2013 No.511448 >>511346 I enjoyed the second one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:23:16 2013 No.511482 SoR 2. Not even close. Although on the whole level track quality you'd probably want to look at Bully.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:28:15 2013 No.511504 >>511280 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFbI2JWPUfU >>511294 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfSz06Qtco >>511302 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFbI2JWPUfU Plebs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr_8TlVx9P8 is clearly the superior piece.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:30:45 2013 No.511514 File: 78 KB, 630x1024, PicOday9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mega Man 2 WarCraft: Orcs & Humans (hnnng, those glorious OPL sounds and Romantic influences) Red Alert, maybe

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 21:33:45 2013 No.511529 Spyro The dragon or Earthbound

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 00:52:16 2013 No.512805 What about Sonic games? Between Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, which has the better soundtrack?

>>	Wrong !!5wXkCbMIR8A Mon Apr 22 00:57:47 2013 No.512842 >>510989 Intelligent Qube has some amazing music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:10:46 2013 No.512932 Live A Live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAsAwSCgSAo

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:23:16 2013 No.513003 >>510989 Command and Conquer 1: Tiberian Dawn Lotus 2 and 3 Transport Tycoon Anything related to Megaman (especially 2 and 3)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:24:46 2013 No.513009 >>512805 Sonic 2. Though most of of the tracks in Sonic 1 are good

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:41:17 2013 No.513107 Megaman X Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy 4-6 Yoshis Island A good way to actually find out if ALL songs are good is to find one bad song. So can anyone find an actual bad song from the above listing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:48:47 2013 No.513156 For me, FFVII and FFVIII have amazing soundtracks. Nobuo really fucking killed it for both of those. They're 50% of those why those games were ever good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:52:46 2013 No.513182 File: 81 KB, 704x441, 1326779577582.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The correct answer is Secret of Mana.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:54:16 2013 No.513192 >>511529 Yeah, I recently got Spyro 2's soundtrack and I fucking love every song.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:54:46 2013 No.513195 >>513182 goddamn I was just about to post that I was ashamed nobody had said this yet. Especially the final Thanatos fight.

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 02:12:46 2013 No.513286

Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga. It has one of the best, if not best sound track.

After that I have to say the SaGa games, I love all of the battle music, some of the best JRPG battle music. I'd also like to mention Bio-Hazard Battle for its odd sound track as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 03:03:16 2013 No.513537 I couldn't pick a bad track from Super Mario 64.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:11:17 2013 No.515310 >>511504 >All this SoR2 Close, but have something better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjQl-6S6EU

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:15:47 2013 No.515334 Sympony of the Night, I think. I also think highly of Snatcher.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:20:47 2013 No.515354 SHINOBI III MOTHERFUCKERS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4FkKDzjfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9iqBW0_TI https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ADC0G_7CsYw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllOjUcSfwU

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:24:47 2013 No.515375 File: 23 KB, 279x400, valis-m1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Probably not the favorite version of Valis, but I do like the Genesis-guitars they used for the first stage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jga_8ApE4VI

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:27:17 2013 No.515397 File: 18 KB, 300x220, Plok2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Plok? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-18zfwvySw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzELBO_3HzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbJSftFr20

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:27:17 2013 No.515401

For some reason Goof Troop on SNES knocked its music out of the park!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StWquWX8IC0&list=PL5C71AA93FAC60197

And the less-known Lost World: Jurassic Park game on Genesis is even better. This video starts at my favorite track
http://youtu.be/OqAXOU_CHg8?t=2m50s<wbr>

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:28:48 2013 No.515407 >>511294 bad recording makes it sound awful

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:32:17 2013 No.515430
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Gunstar Heroes has a really good soundtrack. Each level gets your blood pumping, and each boss has his own theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0sddG3eS3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKrs2jBjzzU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wrwVeWcUH8

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:33:17 2013 No.515437
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Earthbound was heavily influenced by the sounds of Los Angeles circa 1970. Stuff from Harry Nilsson, The Beach Boys, Randy Newman, and other high-level composers like Kurt Weill and Miklós Rózsa...

I'm always nonplussed when I see threads like this where Earthbound isn't unanimously agreed to be the best SNES soundtrack. If it were released in condensed form as an actual LP, it would have to have been a huge hit.

It sucks that Keiichi Suzuki and Hirokazu Tanaka never made an album together. Keiichi has one or two good songs from his Moonriders days, but none of it compares to how American and dynamic the music is in the Earthbound OST.

And who is Hiroshi Kanazu? I can't find much info on him.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Kanazu+Hiroshi
Apparently he's on some stupid IDM compilation. I hate bleep bloops but anything by one of the Mother 2 composers should be interesting, so I'm downloading now...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:33:47 2013 No.515436 Ristar! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0dPdLvLeac&feature=share&list=PL66FDF33954626D8E

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:38:48 2013 No.515457 >>510989 What game is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:44:17 2013 No.515489 File: 52 KB, 460x460, 1355119056836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>510994 Mah nigga. Pretty much the Mega Man X series on SNES is the best 16 bit soundtracks ever created. Every single track just makes you want to rock out and kick ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:46:17 2013 No.515503 >>515489 i find them pretty mediocre

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:46:17 2013 No.515506

>>510989
>almost all tracks sounding great
That already dismisses a large portion of this thread.

I nominate Tyrian. The only game from which I still have every single track stuck in my head. Every. Single. One.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viEhaDIwJyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thtiUXckAVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FFzL-ppOH8

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:49:17 2013 No.515523 >>515503 something's wrong with your ears or you're one of those weird faggots who thinks the "Megadrive" (they're almost always European) has a better sound processor than the SNES. In which case, something is still wrong with your ears.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:52:47 2013 No.515538 File: 78 KB, 500x500, largeo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=60Adyn0V5SI#at=11 One of the best 16-bit soundtracks ever

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:53:17 2013 No.515547 >>515523 the Genesis WAS better. Unless YOUR ears are broken and you think that same orchestra sample every SNES game had was good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:54:47 2013 No.515549 >>515523 >>515547 Now now, let's not turn this into a YM2612 vs SPC700 war. Both processors were all fine and good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:55:17 2013 No.515553 >>515523 The YM2612 is the elder god of sound chips, eat my ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:55:17 2013 No.515554 >>515547 confirmed for Yuropfaggot with broken ears. Genesis sounds flat as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:55:17 2013 No.515559 >>515523 Arin plz go

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 12:59:17 2013 No.515579

>>515554
Wrong on both accounts. The level of technical mastery in the Gens chip is leaps above the muddy SNES. The SNES music wasn't as deep, defined or as dynamic. It sounded good for shit like title screen fanfare music but everything after that sounded like muted trumpet hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:01:17 2013 No.515594 File: 206 KB, 540x405, sparksterfly2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>515538 That one always reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtrzqpozy9A&list=PLE196FE85F324B843

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:02:17 2013 No.515595 >>515579 You've gotta be kidding me. Genesis sound is almost all all square waves, it's flat as fuck Everything sounds flat and empty, it had fewer separate channels, and next to no effects, no reverb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:04:49 2013 No.515616 File: 38 KB, 705x530, 1359258449099.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw some retarded americlap nintendoboy turns this into a SEGA v SNES thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:06:49 2013 No.515627 File: 11 KB, 256x223, Tales of Phantasia.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPOYI7MebGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdVTMeU8SiI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4Rdpu1Z24

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:07:49 2013 No.515629 >>515595 They tried to use the echo and reverb to hide the fact that it sounded like shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:07:49 2013 No.515631 >>515627 I love that game but only a few tracks actually stand out, all of them battle themes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:08:49 2013 No.515636 >>515629 No, they did use them so that they didn't sound flat and empty like Genesis games though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:09:49 2013 No.515648 >>515631 battle music is god-tier, but some towns and world-map had awesome music as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:10:49 2013 No.515652 >>515594 I always imagined the final level theme as a 90's hardcore rave with a bunch of teenagers flailing their limbs around with strobe lights and dry ice in a large warehouse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:10:49 2013 No.515656 FF1 and 2

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:11:49 2013 No.515660
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Final Fantasy 7.

Not even trolling. Not even my favorite game. But every single track is above average to amazing, and when combined with the graphics and story, it just seals the deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:12:49 2013 No.515669 >>515636 So instead they sounded muted and stunted. So many time the music woudl actually veer out of key because of all the bullshit effects they had to pile onto the sound to make it sound less lifeless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:13:49 2013 No.515674 Heroes III of course. Based Rob King and Paul Romero.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:15:05 2013 No.515691 >>515660 I completely agree with you, Nobuo Uematsu is an amazing artist and his music in FF7 is some of the best work he ever made, I listen to it, and his Distant Worlds almost daily since they and FF7 came out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:17:25 2013 No.515696 Genesis version of MMX3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtrzqpozy9A&list=PLE196FE85F324B843

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:18:25 2013 No.515706
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C'mon, where the falcombros at.

Here's a game that doesn't get posted often, back when they were almost dead, vantage master, with it's MIDI goodness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wi0ic5-NYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LkvEB8jk5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfwlNAq-QDk

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:21:25 2013 No.515717 >>510989 Best is fucking subjective, but mi favorites are Megaman x4 and x5

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:23:25 2013 No.515741 >>515696 Think you meant to post this, friend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUwg-n1GgOo

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:33:25 2013 No.515832

>>510989
Far East of Eden by Toshiyuki Sasagawa, Kohei Tanaka and Aya Tanaka.

It's really difficult to give a good sample of their work since it's very varied. Here's a handful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkpcOTL82ew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXrC5R4fc3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIAP0a9vNw

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:35:25 2013 No.515847 File: 108 KB, 1438x971, top_gear_snes_1992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>510989 >...a game with almost all tracks sounding great?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:40:25 2013 No.515896 >>515741 >calling that a Genesis cover >music given reverb that the Genesis doesn't have to cover how muddy and distorted it is to disguise that it also sounds flat yeah.. okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 14:21:36 2013 No.516107 File: 105 KB, 600x834, 1365732297595.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People on this board seem to like Alisia Dragoon. Soundtrack was really good as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmM6VKDR4M

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 14:49:05 2013 No.516283 >>515847 OH GOD YES >eat dust!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 14:59:35 2013 No.516357 Tyrian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRBs6nqsYic

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:04:05 2013 No.516405

>>516107

>Striped lizard

I am like 90% sure that was supposed to be a bone dragon throwing ribs and shit. That picture must have been drawn after the game was made by someone who wasn't on the main team or something.

Also, at first I thought the didn't have the best pet, then I realized they gave him the proper respect and turned him into a badass wailing demon spirit face thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:20:05 2013 No.516551 >>515896 >Implying bullshit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qxlUuGheYU

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:23:35 2013 No.516572 >>515832 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0r1De_m1TA Fucking love this theme in particular. For what I read in HG101, it's a very quirky JRPG series, like Goemon. Another reason of why I shouldn't slack on my moon studies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:25:05 2013 No.516591 File: 179 KB, 1024x768, ys2_02m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>516107 >That cover Damn, I sure do love that kind of art.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:26:35 2013 No.516594 >>516572 There's even a remastered soundtrack with the album number DPCX-5059~61, but I can't find it anywhere and it makes me sad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:28:35 2013 No.516613 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_uwN9zewsw

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:31:05 2013 No.516637

>>516551

How about you find actual Genesis game soundtracks that make use of reverb.

I'll be waiting, because you can't. The Genesis sound processor did not have reverb. All of these mockup "genesis remix"'s of SNES OST's use reverb and effects that the SNES has, but the Genesis does not.

Genesis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uVdHvPr2r0

Note the flatness, no reverb, terrible voice synthesis

SNES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_GoKd7Ynpk

Note use of reverb that makes it sound more full and lively, and can produce recorded speech.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:38:05 2013 No.516681 >>516637 Dude the Orchestra hits are identical and from that point on the SNES uses muffled guitar and drums and the Genesis sounds clean and hi fi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:41:35 2013 No.516698 >>516681 even the sound of Shredder getting hit is cleaner in the Gens version

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:44:05 2013 No.516714

>>516637
>>516637
>Continuing to talk out of your ass

Genesis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7KXrj8s64

SNES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OtrgZ2r2GA

Both have "reverb" (in fact, I don't even think you know what that word means). Genesis one sounds better in this case, SNES sounds "flat, muffled, canned".

But this shouldn't be a Vs. thread. Both consoles had awesome music, but both linked Mega Man X songs were composed using the same tools the Genesis had to offer.

And I love the Mega Man X soundtracks, but I think that their instrumentation was off, as was the case with many Capcom titles on the SNES era.
Konami though, were kings of the SPC700:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPinyngvL2M

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:47:35 2013 No.516725 >>516714 Capcom games sounded out of tune a lot, or am I just crazy?

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:51:06 2013 No.516747

>>516714

SNES is playing more sound channels at once (because it can). Reverb is related to echo, but not quite the same. Reverb is the persistence of the sound after the sound has stopped as it is still in the air before being absorbed by solid objects. Echo is reflection of that sound off solid objects.

The Genesis sound sounds like it just doesn't "carry" through the air, or fill the space.

The difference in reverb is noticable over headphones but might not quite be so noticable over speakers where the sound would actually reverb as it carries through the space outside the speakers. But over headphones Genesis songs all sound like the sound is suppressed as soon as the source is dead, while the SNES's use of reverb makes it sound like it's filling the room around you even over headphones.

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:52:36 2013 No.516750

>>516725
On the SNES and Genesis at the time. It was like they didn't know how to transition from the arcades and the Nes era.
It's funny, but I always think the Street Fighter II music bickering is off when it comes to both systems, both versions were kind of way below each respective system's power to adapt it from the arcade and even enhance it.
Just imagine if Tim Follin had handled it on the SNES and Jesper Kyd on the Genesis, that would probably have lead to two versions arguably superior to the arcade one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:56:35 2013 No.516772 File: 47 KB, 530x350, sonic1019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sonic CD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3k_FvoBZY

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:57:05 2013 No.516780 File: 38 KB, 311x400, you-gonna-get-comfy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Retro pick? Legend of Mana. Non retro? Silent Hill 3.

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 15:59:05 2013 No.516794

>>516747

which is, why it can do orchestra like pieces better, having more sound channels and using effects to create the illusion of even more sound channels and making it fill more space.

Genesis is like a 4 piece band playing in a room that has sound dampening walls. SNES is a small orchestra playing in a concert hall.

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:04:05 2013 No.516826

>>516747
>SNES is playing more sound channels at once (because it can).
But it's sample based, so it can't do as much with those 8 sound channels as the 5 to 6 FM sound channels on the Genesis can, as the composer can "morph" the FM at any given time, but the SNES is stuck with the sample track chosen.

In the rest of your post you start to loose me. Why does the louder reverb function of the SNES make the audio "better"? It's totally based on taste which one you prefer. With the Genesis you usually get harsher sound but its also clearer, while some compositions on the SNES "drown" the samples with reverb in order to cover up how caned they sound. That's not to say that the Genesis isn't capable of reverb, it's just more subtle, like in the Mega Man X adaptions you originally accused of being "fake".

And I listen to all my vidya music with headphones btw, but not when I'm playing the actual games, so I have experience with both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:06:05 2013 No.516840 >>516772 >Jap disco muzak Disgusting

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:07:05 2013 No.516846 >>516794 >SNES is a small orchestra playing in a concert hall. that you are listening to through a wall

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:11:35 2013 No.516863 >>516840 Shows what little the fun you know about Jap Disco in video games. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xss2CZv5QTM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO3MeAb9kcw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO1DSnsBK9c

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:11:35 2013 No.516868 >>516637 Genesis didn't have reverb? Listen to Decap Attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiOE8s38wCE

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:13:35 2013 No.516874 >>516863 Disco lives

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:14:05 2013 No.516884 >>516725 No, you aren't. Capcom games on SNES sound horribly mangled. I'm not going to use ridiculous hyperbole and claim that the SNES sound sucks, because it clearly doesn't, but Capcom sucked at using it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:20:35 2013 No.516920 You can imitate reverb/echo/whatever by having a copy of the melody play on another channel at a slight delay. Capcom's QSound arcade games do this a lot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:21:35 2013 No.516932 >only one mention of Yoshi's Island. Step it up /vr/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:29:36 2013 No.516987 >>511023 Not a single track that isn't fantastic. muh forest music

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:36:05 2013 No.517032
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The classic Sonic games, the JP version of Sonic CD particular is quite amazing.

Pokemon Red/Blue, and most of the other games to an extent.

Panzer Dragoon/Zwei/Saga.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 16:43:06 2013 No.517080 I'm surprised none of the Streets of Rage guys posted this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkcU_BifAPE

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:13:38 2013 No.517232

>>516846

when you're listening to an orchestra, you're listening to dozens of individual sound channels playing in symphony, they're "muddied" together. You don't pick out individual string players and listen to them, you listen to the entire piece as a whole.

With a band with only a few instruments/channels, you're picking out individual instruments.

On the SNES, you're listening to it as all one soundscape, with the Genesis, you're trying to pick out individual instruments, which is why Genesis fans always point out the bass. In the SNES, the bass is subdued, because it's meant as a part of a whole, not meant to stand out.

So what you call "muddied" I call "symphony" what you call "clearer" I call "empty sounding"

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:17:36 2013 No.517253

>>516826

the mega man "adaptations" were not done on an actual genesis soundchip, they're done on a PC with synthesizer software.

using Rebirth or Fruityloops to emulate a Roland TB-303 does not properly make a Roland TB-303 sound (as the TB-303 is analog, and there are quirks with the envelopes and filters that do not properly emulate on solid state hardware or digital software). In this case the software synthesis does not have the same limitations as the actual analog hardware of the Genesis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:19:35 2013 No.517261 >>516920 which is what the Genesis did to attempt reverb. The SPC-700 used an actual reverb effect processor. Genesis wasted another sound channel out of its 6 to fake it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:20:35 2013 No.517264 >>516884 with the exception of the Mega Man X games?

>>	snow flake Mon Apr 22 17:21:05 2013 No.517273 shadowrun

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:21:36 2013 No.517276 I'd pick either Super Castlevania IV or Donkey Kong Country 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:23:35 2013 No.517289 duck tails moon

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 17:43:38 2013 No.517413

>>517232
>So what you call "muddied" I call "symphony" what you call "clearer" I call "empty sounding"

He's not actually me, which you are referring to. What my point was is that your elitism in favor of just one soundchip is ultimately pointless. Both soundchips had their strength and weaknesses. There are plenty of horrible sounding Genesis music out there, true, but there's just as much dreadful SNES music as well. Ultimately a combination of composer power + technical ability and know how wins the day and not the soundchips themselves, especially since the Genesis soundchip could do stuff the SNES couldn't and vice versa.

>>517253
>the mega man "adaptations" were not done on an actual genesis soundchip, they're done on a PC with synthesizer software.

No, they're done with similar software available to creators back in the Genesis development days, where composer composed on PC first and played it of the Genesis second.
Sure, bad Rebirth/Fruitloops covers are out there but they tend to be poorly done and you can spot that they're fake a mile away. Not the case with those two covers.

ChiptunedRaijin on accusations of not being capable on the Genesis:

>MK3 and Comix Zone were two of those poorly programmed games as far as sound goes. They both use the horrible GEMS sound driver, which is the main driver notorious for bad Genesis sound. Basically it allows the composer to use a MIDI and transfer it over to the Genesis with poor, preset FM patches.

>Anyway, I programmed the sound from scratch for this cover, trying to get the best sound I can. Trust me, I guarentee you that this can be played on a real Genesis.

I have no reason to disbelieve him. If you still do, bring it up with him.

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