Comfy Classic Final Fantasy Thread

[Anonymous No.5091457]

Come one, come all friends, to the classic retro Final Fantasy thread. FF I-IX and all spinoffs inbetween are welcome.

What are you playing? What kind of party are you using? Are you having fun? Who's your favorite party member?

[Anonymous No.5091468]

Just making sure no Squallfags and Selphiefags weasel their way in here

[Anonymous No.5091470]

Never played any of the games before prior to last week. Started uploading ROMs to my snes classic.

tried FF1, it was ass
Playing FF3 now, its bretty enjoyable

[Anonymous No.5091479]

>>5091468
I think I'm about to get to WoR in VI, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.5091485]

>>5091479
Bit of a slog, but I've managed to get through it several times.

[Anonymous No.5091504]

>>5091479
As soon as you get an airship the game opens up completely. It's pretty fun exploring, lots to find.

[Anonymous No.5091545]

>>5091470
Ff3 is very nice and straightforward
I need to beat six but for some reason I can't be bothered with it, my faves are 7,9,4 and tactics, and then 3 in that order

[Anonymous No.5091638]

Replaying FFV. Focusing on the jobs that I haven't use lately.Nice to re-discover stuff and learn new things about the game.
>>5091545
I recommend FF5 if you enjoy FF3 and Tactics.

[Anonymous No.5091665]

BALS

[Anonymous No.5091674]

>>5091665

[Anonymous No.5091865]

just finished ffii on famicom, it was pretty brutal for the first few hours and then once I got gud it was
comfy
as fuck
I actually cried when leon left[\spoiler]

[Anonymous No.5092075]

7>6>1>3>9>2>4>5>8
6 and 7 are the best character driven FF's, 1 and 3 are great little light dungeon crawlers. 9 is where it is because of the frankly unacceptable loading time for each random battle, made worse by me being in PAL region. 2 is one of the few FF's made better in the remake, the GBA version gets rid of the stat-downs and makes 'leveling' less of an exploitative experience, otherwise the game is average for its time. 4 would be the worst of the character driven FF's if 8 didn't exist, is linear to a fault, repetitive in gameplay and tedious to complete, it could have been a sidescroller. 5 is the most overrated game, a weird halfway between the character driven 4/6/7 and the dungeon crawler-light 1/3; the story and characters end up being terrible and the gameplay is peak "muh job system"/"muh ATB" as if a class system in an RPG is somehow innovative or slower combat than regular turns is somehow good. 8 doesn't know what the hell it wants to be, carding takes just as long as drawing so it's not some magical alternative to wasting your time, the story is a confused mess and the characters are all unlikable, yes including Quistis.

The series as a whole I give 6/10, I'd rather play Suikoden.

[Anonymous No.5092080]

>>5092075
4>5

nah

[Anonymous No.5092094]

>>5092075
4 was the one that came up with ATB, not 5
Also
>not playing on max battle speed and Active
what is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.5092097]

>>5092075
Interesting opinions. I don't hate 8 but the fans of it are incredibly obnoxious and deflect every criticism of it with "2deep4u". Were the loading times/slowness the only things you disliked about 9?

[Anonymous No.5092098]

>>5092075
> the story and characters end up being terrible
They're not bad at all.Just cause they were on the the more sillier side doesn't mean they didn't have their own personal dilemma but they don't drag it during the whole story.
>class system in an RPG is somehow innovative
Its the he way how implements the job system is why its so great.
>slower combat than regular turns is somehow good
A random encounter in FF5 goes by faster than the nes games and the smoother interface/ui makes it more manageable than 4 to be on active.
>>5092094
Max speed is bug in the original ffv. Makes the monster goes faster but you stay the same.

[Anonymous No.5092148]

>>5092094
>4 was the one that came up with ATB, not 5
I know it was, that's why I was mocking 5's more obsessive fans constant touting of is as some amazing feature when ATB is just 'generic FF combat' now.
>not playing on max battle speed and Active what is wrong with you?
Why not just have it be turn based? ATB adds literally nothing.

>>5092097
9 had some creepy looking character models, the gameplay wasn't exactly deep or innovative and the story gets retarded near the end, but it had very enjoyable character interactions, interesting and beautiful locales and was, for lack of a better word 'comfy'. The loading times are really, really bad though.

>>5092098
>They're not bad at all.Just cause they were on the the more sillier side doesn't mean they didn't have their own personal dilemma but they don't drag it during the whole story.
I suppose it's personal preference. I played the PS1 version of V first when it came out as part of the PAL anthology (which contained IV and V, not V and VI); so I got Yarr'd out of any enjoyment of the characters.
>Its the he way how implements the job system is why its so great.
It's a minor advancement on 3, but it's treated by some like it's mindblowing.
>A random encounter in FF5 goes by faster than the nes games and the smoother interface/ui makes it more manageable than 4 to be on active.
I played the PS1 version of I, the PS1 and GBA versions of II, the PSP version of III, the PS1 and PSP versions of IV and the PS1 and GBA versions of V so I wouldn't know about how NES menuing feels, but my criticism of ATB isn't limited to V, it's just V fans that seem to make the biggest deal out of it when it's just a poorly abstracted turn system that's common to the series and stopped being a point of advertisement in the mid 90's. For reference my favorite FF battle system is CTB, which was criminally under utilised in X and never brought back.

[Anonymous No.5092153]

>>5092148
>ATB adds literally nothing.
adds a little much needed pressure, not to mention it lead to Grandia's battle system, which may be the best tb system made

[Anonymous No.5092159]

>>5092153
I'd rather pressure came from good encounter design and resource management than from being prodded by a timer. That's the reason why 1 is so high up my list. Unfortunately the dungeon crawler concepts used in 1 were abandoned pretty quick. Also: spell charges > MP all day every day. Grandia's in my backlog, so I'll probably never play it.

[Anonymous No.5092162]

>>5092148
>I played the PS1 version
That explains a lot. Its the worse version of the game for a reason. Character butchering,load times,etc.
>It's a minor advancement on 3
It was a huge major step up from III. No classes that aren't just upgraded version of previous classes. ABP system opens up more customization options to your party while the games keeps limitations to not end up too busted.No CP to discourage on the fly job adjustments.
> it's just V fans that seem to make the biggest deal out of it
I don't know any V fan who obsess over the atb system.That's more of a FFIV fan kind of thing. FFV only made the bar show and magic can be cast quicker.

[Anonymous No.5092167]

>>5091865
what are the chances? Ive been a huge ff fan since forever and i finally got around to FF2 on PS1, beat it for the first time ever last week. I also enjoyed it, wasnt near as shit as everyone said it was. i thought it was better than 8. spent a fuck load of time grinding spells to level up Ultima though just to find out it was still worthless. why you care about leon leaving puzzles me, he doesnt do anything all game, the character interaction is horrible in that game

[Anonymous No.5092186]

>>5092159
>I'd rather pressure came from good encounter design and resource management
should've played the DS version

[Anonymous No.5092721]

>>5091468

[Anonymous No.5092745]

>>5091470
1-3 aren't really worth playing unless you're really interested in seeing the groundwork of the series.

1 is pretty barebones, 2 is more of a prototype for the Saga games, and 3 is basically just a prototype FF5.

4 is okay but if you play a lot of rpgs it's going to feel really predictable and tired by today's standards. The series really started to shine with 5 though.

[Anonymous No.5092774]

>>5092745

I found 3 to be pretty enjoyable to be honest (on NES). It's unforgiving as hell in some places but it felt much more streamlined and playable compared to 1 and 2 overall.

[Anonymous No.5092794]

I love FF1. It's one of my favorites in the series, probably in my top 3. I've replayed it so many times and played every American rerelease. My favorite version is the PSX version and my favorite party is Fi/BB/RM/WM. The GBA and PSP versions have cool new content but I don't like a lot of the changes they made to the game. There is a really cool mod out there for the GBA version called Jeff Ludwig's Mod of Balance v3.3 that makes the game more challenging and has 12 new classes to choose from, which is cool. I've played through that twice. Don't play v3.5 though it's shit

[Anonymous No.5092823]

>>5092794
>Fi/BB/RM/WM
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well

[Anonymous No.5092883]

>>5092721
I want to spread my seed inside of Terra so bad

[Anonymous No.5092919]

>>5092774
I enjoy the first 3, and I personally prefer 3 on NES than the remake, but when someone says they're new to FF or want to play their first one I avoid recommending them the first three.

>>5092794
I've never played the PS1 versions of 1 and 2, do they suffer the same loading issues 5 and 6 do?

[Anonymous No.5092942]

>>5092919

Oh, definitely. I tend to recommend 6 when introducing people due to how smoothly it plays and how easy it is. Plus, the story hooks well. In general i find that most people i've known who aren't very fond of RPG's tend to enjoy 6.

Sitting someone down in front of 1, 2, or 3 as their first is an easy way to frustrate them. 1 was my first, but i got fed up with it and didn't go back to beat it until after i had played and beat 4 and 6.

[Anonymous No.5092967]

>>5092919
>do they suffer the same loading issues 5 and 6 do?
Not anywhere close to that amount. There is a very slight load before and after battles but it's negligible. You can toggle on and off the ability to target the next enemy after one target is slain instead of your attack being rendered ineffective, there's a circle button dash and the bosses' HP is doubled. Other than that there are no changes to the game balance. The graphics are the same as the Wonderswan and GBA versions.

[Anonymous No.5092976]

Is it accurate to say that this series became Fujoshi bait starting with 7?

[Anonymous No.5093072]

>>5092976
You can argue it was IV
>Cecil and Kain bromance has more focus than Cecil to his love interest.
>The Edge is the only guy who hit on girls was shun everytime.

[Anonymous No.5093331]

I'm actually replaying 7 for the first time in like a decade. I never found it as amazing as other people claim, and am remembering why now that I'm on disc 2. The pacing falls off in the middle of the disc and all the Gold Saucer shit and everything about Caith Sith is just annoying. The Cloud/Tifa/Aerith dynamic is interesting, but the game can be really vague about what's going on half the time and just feels more shallow than people make it out to be. I'm hoping Disc 2 and 3 are more interesting. I honestly don't remember much about discs 2 and 3 from last time I played it, other than being really annoyed that it ended really abruptly after the final battle and the credits just started suddenly.

Cid is great though and my party is currently Cloud, Tifa, Cid. Making Tifa my mage I guess, since Cid is dishing out tons of damage with Long Range and Deathblow. Maybe Barret or Yuffie is a better choice for shoving magic onto though?

[Anonymous No.5093336]

>Enemy Strikes First!

gg

[Anonymous No.5093343]

>>5093336
and people say JRPGs are easy

[Anonymous No.5093393]

The best Ff is DUAL ORB 2

[Anonymous No.5093484]

>>5093331
7 has a shitty ending.

[Anonymous No.5094113]

FF1 and FF3 (FF2 was ahead of its time in terms of characters and storytelling) and quite comfy games, different than the ones you would play nowadays.

People think they are outdated, but that's because they play the game with the following mentality:
- Characters: they expect falling in love with the party and to experience some character development, to know what will happen next.
- Combat: Dungeon crawling, equiping your characters, choosing skills/spells, facing random encounters and bosses.

Both aspects were developed further in future FFs. FFV is the best for the combat, and FFVII for the characters, that's why they are so popular in their respective communities.

But FFI/FFIII portrait an epic journey, the exploration of the world (not the characters). For the first time, you are given the chance to have adventures in a grand world, questing around, solving problems, discovering ancient ruins. It is just a different experience, I don't about them as ancient rpgs.

[Anonymous No.5094184]

>>5094113
A lot of newer open world RPGs give this feeling, but few JRPGs did. Some of my favorites are Dragon Quest 3 and SaGa Frontier because their focus is on exploration first, combat second and characters third. I'm also a big fan of the Wizardry series.

[Anonymous No.5094190]

Let's talk 8. I pretty much got through up until disc 3 relying on spamming GF's and I never learned how to upgrade my weapons,

[Anonymous No.5094217]

>>5093484
>7 has a shitty ending.
So will you if you keep talkin' shit like that n*gga.

[Anonymous No.5094309]

>>5094190
Oh you poor dumb soul

[Anonymous No.5094378]

>>5094190
https://jegged.com/Games/Final-Fantasy-VIII/Tips-and-Tricks/Magic-Junction-Guide.html

[Anonymous No.5094405]

Interceptor here. Angelo is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.5094451]

>>5094190
1.Junction good magic to str and hp
2.have everyone at yellow HP
3.spam triangle until limit
4.win the game

[Anonymous No.5094457]

>>5094451
also don't level up, ever

[Anonymous No.5094483]

>>5094457
Turn every enemy into cards and refine them into magic to avoid exp

[Anonymous No.5094660]

>>5094405

[Anonymous No.5096387]

[Anonymous No.5096417]

Cloud > Terra > Bartz > Cecil > Zidane > Firion > Squall

[Anonymous No.5096479]

>>5096417
Cecil gets married to his girlfriend, has a kid and becomes king. Easily the best.

[Anonymous No.5096508]

>>5096417

Terra > Bartz > Squall > Firion > Zidane > Cloud > Cecil

[Anonymous No.5096564]

>>5092075
Where would you rank 10 in all of this? Fuck you it's retro enough

[Anonymous No.5096587]

Red Mage best job

[Anonymous No.5096610]

>>5096587
Why aren't Red Mages and Blue Mages polar opposites? Why aren't there Green or Yellow mages?

[Anonymous No.5096621]

>>5096610
>Red Mages: spellswords that learn all possible human spells
>Blue Mages: spellswords that learn all possible monster spells

[Anonymous No.5096702]

>>5096610

>tfw no purple mage

[Anonymous No.5096707]

>>5096702
>Purple Mage: an arcane trickster with high dex and int, low str and con. Knows select red and blue spells, wields knives and wears robes.

Here's your new FF class bro

[Anonymous No.5096712]

>>5091457
Why is there no actual fan translation of NES FF1 that puts back the direct mentions to death and other things that flustered the butts of pre-ESRB NOA and NOE executives?

[Anonymous No.5096853]

[Anonymous No.5096972]

>>5096417
>>5096508
Zidane > Terra > Cecil > Bartz > Cloud > Firion > Squall

[Anonymous No.5097004]

>>5096712
Because nobody plays 1-3 for the story anyway

[Anonymous No.5097031]

Kefka > Exdeath > Zemus > Kuja > Ultimecia > Sephiroth

[Anonymous No.5097334]

>>5096587
based

[Anonymous No.5097670]

Posting best loli

[Anonymous No.5097683]

>>5096417
This but Terra first, Cecil 3rd, cloud 4th.

[Anonymous No.5097736]

>>5094217
Quality post.

[Anonymous No.5097738]

I've never touched 2 or 3, and only played 1 on GBA like a decade ago. Are the NES versions worth playing for 1-3? I'm kind of curious about the origins of the franchise, but if the english fan translations aren't that good, or if the later remakes/ports are just better in general I'll not bother with the NES versions.

[Anonymous No.5098550]

Recently went though them all, and currently on 10.

>1
Barebones, but I can see how it's a good start.
>2
Cool ideas executed a bit poorly, although I did enjoy it.
>3
Enjoyed a lot of aspects about it and the jobs can become very OP late game, very fun.
>4
My favourite of the bunch, I understood how people loved the series from then on. Great music and cast of characters, shame all the sacrifices meant nothing at the end.
>5
Mixed bag, I liked it up until the job system overwhelmed me and I noticed I had been doing it wrong. Should replay though.
>6
Great game really pushed SNES limits Fuck Cultist Tower though.
>7
Also great, I could see why people enjoyed it Having a character die was actually quite shocking even if I knew it was coming, music was great.
>8
The most unique setting and similar to FF2 in regards to the draw system I liked it
>9
Another great game, tie it with 4 as my favourite. Great cast of characters and I loved the music It was a bit slow even with auto-haste on

[Anonymous No.5098572]

Celes isn't underage is she? Just curious because I've been beating off to lewds of her

[Anonymous No.5098576]

I'm playing FF7 and just got past the Cloud Tifa under the Highwind scene. That scene was sweet, as well as Cloud's consciousness sequence. Makes me wish the story on 7 was a bit more clear, and that all expansion canon wasn't so bad. The game is so beloved but when you put it under a lens the story leaves you unsatisfied.

[Anonymous No.5098583]

>>5098572
Why does that matter? Also, last I checked wasn't she the general of some army, I'm sure she's above the age and the FBI won't be coming to your door anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.5098628]

>>5097670

[Anonymous No.5098634]

>>5097738

I'd play 1 on NES if nothing else to see how it started. Don't have to finish it, but it's an interesting experience if just for a little while.

I loved the NES version of 3, it felt like a huge adventure for an NES game, was fun, catchy music, the job system is not perfected like 5, but it's cool to see it being fleshed out. BRUTALLY hard though.

Your' better off playing the remakes of 2. 2 on NES is mind-numbingly tedious. Its the only, and i mean the ONLY final fantasy game out there that i recommend playing a remake in any and all circumstances.

[Anonymous No.5098646]

>>5098572

She's 18. So fap away.

[Anonymous No.5098652]

>>5098572
I'm pretty sure there is no law that can arrest you for whatever is in your inner toughts when you masturbate.

[Anonymous No.5098656]

Is it possible to play through ff1 without a guide?

[Anonymous No.5098660]

>>5098628
>genius with machinery
>charismatic leader
>powerful warrior
>king
>accepted the responsibility of being king to let his brother pursue his dreams
>great with women
>can be a better dragoon than Kain if he feels like it
How can one man be so based

[Anonymous No.5098661]

>>5098656

Yes, it's difficult, but you can and will eventually find your way around. It's not like castlevania 2 where the translation is so fucked up that you're fed the wrong information.

[Anonymous No.5098662]

>>5098660

I know it's not retro, but in square's newest gacha game Dissidia Opera Omnia, there are characters from all over the series and they have several cutscenes where the characters interact. It's hilarious to watch Edgar hit on Faris and Lightning.

[Anonymous No.5098697]

>>5096564
Probably alongside 1, it's got my favorite battle system and possibly my favorite soundtrack. The voice work and characterisation is mixed, but the story overall is good and if I'm being honest the games linearity works with the pilgrimage framing, but when the player got the airship the world map should have been 3D with free control, that would have been mindblowing, it should also have been more of a world of ruin in terms of content rather than a way to go to super bosses and minigames quickly. The battle system as I said was great and the way it got the player to use ALL the characters and not just some like in VI/VII/VIII/IX was a vast improvement, but the combat mechanics were often underutilised; for instance there are enemy formation rows but the only time I can recall them being used is in the Zanarkand temple before the Yunalesca battle, also having to put your three fastest characters back in formation after every battle was annoying. My main negatives are that the story direction was changed like the father/son aspect being downsized to make way for the Yuna romance, the optional Lulu/Rikku romances being changed into small dialogue differences for the same reason. Under use of the games fantastic battle systems and a general lack of challenge outside of the optional superbosses. Bad or misplaced character main designs, for example: Lulu's character design is great, but it clearly does not belong in Spira. More broadly I would have made old Zanarkand closer to a 21st century feel and have Tidus wear something more grounded, like some swim shorts and his blitzball team hoodie; the real Tidus looks less fish out of water and more dumb fish. The Al-Bhed I would have made look more, deserty and less whatever they're supposed to be. I tried to think of how Tidus characterisation could be proved and honestly if his outfit helped ground him to the player by making it more real then pitching down the voice alone would honestly solve a lot of problems.

[Anonymous No.5098715]

Are the NES FF games as much of a slog as shitposters on here claim them to be?

[Anonymous No.5098723]

>>5098715
they have their difficulty spikes (ice cavern, marsh cave, crystal tower), but nothing too drastic
II can be the easiest game you've ever played if you know what you're doing, or a hellish nightmare if you don't

[Anonymous No.5098727]

>>5098715

I posted about this above, but tldr:

1 is a chore, but has it's charm as the beginning of it all so i still play from time to time.

2 is horrible. Play a remake, only one i recommend a remake over the original in every case.

3 i loved. Thought it was much better than the DS remake. You can really tell the FF we all know and love was really starting to take shape in it.

[Anonymous No.5098905]

>>5098660
>>great with women
Why do you lie like this?

[Anonymous No.5098979]

>>5098656
Yes. The original NES release has a lot of glitches regarding it's spells though so you might end up trying tactics that just are going to end up doing nothing and think the game is way harder.

[Anonymous No.5098982]

>>5098662
How bad is that game for a Gachashit title?

[Anonymous No.5099063]

is Final Fantasy V any good?

A friend gave me a somewhat beat-up copy of Final Fantasy Anthology as a birthday present years ago, mostly because he wanted me to play FFVI. I played VI via PS2 to completion, but every time I play V it seems to freeze or glitch out, or I go in the wrong direction and die because I feel the game has a poor sense of direction.

[Anonymous No.5099156]

>>5099063
It's very good but not the version you have of it.I suggested try finding a emulator of the sfc game translated in English or a gba rom. If you're okay with its graphics the mobile version is also alright.

[Anonymous No.5099468]

>>5098727
I can certainly tell you that I've enjoyed them despite their difficulty and the need to grind At least compared to the NES Dragon Quests, those are an absolute fucking nightmare

[Anonymous No.5099586]

Rate my taste, /vr/. MMO's not included because they don't count.

4=6=5>9>10>7>1 (remakes)>12>13>2=3>8

[Anonymous No.5099592]

>>5099468
Hey, 3 and 4 aren't bad. 1 and 2, admittedly, are a true fucking slog.

[Anonymous No.5099638]

>>5091674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SBGbbJ8ifY

[Anonymous No.5099754]

>>5099156
What's wrong with the Anthology version?

[Anonymous No.5099763]

Just played FF1 and I really liked it for some reason. It's the only FF game I'm itching to replay as soon as I finished it.

[Anonymous No.5099769]

>>5098550

>4
>My favourite of the bunch, I understood how people loved the series from then on. Great music and cast of characters, shame all the sacrifices meant nothing at the end.
which version/remake do you like the most?

[Anonymous No.5099772]

>>5099754
Well almost everything from the music, translation, and load times. Its a pretty bad port of the sfc game with not much going for it that others releases of the game don't already have without these issues.

[Anonymous No.5099773]

>>5098982
The Gacha is pretty lenient, and the game does shower you with its currency.
Problem is the game is a bit overwhelming on stuff to farm. It's since reduced one of the problems with multiplayer but its still grindy. Some of the tougher challenges are total bullshit however that forces you to have stuff it demands.


tl'dr its alright.

[Anonymous No.5099774]

>>5099772
How many fantranslations of V are there?

[Anonymous No.5099783]

>>5099774
The only one that I know of is the RPGe translation but maybe there's others. I heard there's even a hack that put the gba script in.

[Anonymous No.5099786]

>>5099783
I heard the GBA script is bad. Any truth to that?

[Anonymous No.5099794]

>>5099786
It has its ups and downs but I find it overall okay. Has some good lines that put a smile on my face but there are time where I felt the translator was getting ahead of himself with the references.

[Anonymous No.5100186]

>>5098550
>pic

>have gf but can't remember it
>have no gf and you can remember it
tough decision.

[Anonymous No.5100202]

>>5099586
Pretty good, you recognize the SNES trilogy as the holy trinity and 2 & 8 as bad games

Personally I'd put 12 over 10 though

[Anonymous No.5100514]

Anyone willing to upload the GBA roms?

[Anonymous No.5100660]

why does bartz get all the hot bitches

[Anonymous No.5101142]

>>5100660
Because he's a chad

[Anonymous No.5101225]

>>5100514
They're all on emuparadise

[Anonymous No.5101851]

>>5101225
Late reply, but I just got back from work.
That was the first website I looked.
I was recommended to try out the GBA versions of those games, but none of the versions seem to be up for DL anymore
It's not like I'm opposed to just trying out the SNES or any other system's versions, I just wanted to try out the optimal versions.

[Anonymous No.5102090]

>>5098572
I looked into all the versions I could play and settled on the PSP version just because it seemed to have the most content to do and I wanted something close to the original experience without having to play a gimpled version in any way, but sadly that version was still pretty easy and I finished it in 16 hours without much difficulty, even going as far as getting all but one summon, and the best sword in the game.

I imaged I liked it because it was the one FF game I had played without knowing anything about it beforehand, I knew a lot about 1, 2 and 3 from friends and knew about the rest afterwards. So going into 4 not knowing anything was really nice since it let me play it with a fresh mind instead of having something in the back of my mind the whole time (although, that was only a problem in 5 and 9)

[Anonymous No.5102095]

>>5101851
Use the workaround script

[Anonymous No.5102114]

>>5102095
Thank you based anon