/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5079947]

To think, we almost got Final Fantasy 6-2 instead of that glorified emo drama, why couldn't I have been born in another timeline

[Anonymous No.5079949]

>>5079947
We basically still got 6-2. FF7 reused a LOT of themes and situations that FF6 had already tried. Apart from the overall story of course which was different.

[Anonymous No.5079961]

That's always been my problem with 7 and to a lesser extent 8, Too much edgy and emo shit. I guess I just prefer the more cartoony, silliness of the earlier games

[Anonymous No.5079978]

That isometric FF looked better.

[Anonymous No.5079982]

>>5079961
7 still had a good amount of silly stuff in it.

[Anonymous No.5080089]

>>5079982
This, I think people forget how much silly shit FF7 had in it

>A miniquest of making Cloud look like a cute lady
>Dressing up Red XIII as a sailor to sneak aboard a ship
>Tifa, a convicted terrorist sentenced to death, escapes and gets into a slapping match with the Head of Weapons Development in Shinra
>the main character grieves the death of a woman he fell in love with, then goes snowboarding about a half hour later
>The dating minigame
>One of the characters was a stuffed animal

Etc

[Anonymous No.5080163]

>>5080089
I think people forget that because:
1-It happen in between serious moment.
2-Most of the silly stuff happen in Wutai or the Wall Market.

But yeah, people tends to forget how silly were stuff in FF7.

[Anonymous No.5080173]

>>5079978
>That isometric FF looked better.
That was a silicon graphics proof of concept though. Neitehr the PSX nor the N64 couldn't do those visuals, not at that framerate and colors, not even with those simple models. That was the SGI hardware square used for making pre-rendered cut scenes in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.5080175]

>>5079947
Yeah, too bad Nintendo dropped the ball so hard with their hostility to third party developers, fanatical defense of an outdated medium (cartridges), and dedication to exclusively producing childish games.

>>5080089
>>5080163
Most people who act like FF is grimdark serious never actually played the series.

[Anonymous No.5080176]

>>5079947
>be me
>fall in love with ff3US
>read in magazine about next ff
>see pictures and get giddy.
>I have decided: time to save money to buy an Ultra64
>My face when reality set-in months later

[Anonymous No.5080184]

>>5079961
>I guess I just prefer the more cartoony, silliness of the earlier games

[Anonymous No.5080193]

>>5080089
FF7 had silliness, but it was less of a 'cartoony' silliness.

[Anonymous No.5080279]

>muh glorified emo drama

Just because a game isn't a nonstop stream of cartoonish antics doesn't mean it's ''''emo'''', but then again you've never played it because you're an ADHD zoomer and are parroting tired memes.

[Anonymous No.5080383]

>>5079947
That was a tech demo, not a prototype. Building parts of an old game on a new console is a thing they sometimes do to demonstrate the difference in graphics quality. I remember a handful of PS2 tech demos just being real-time renders of PSX cutscenes.

[Anonymous No.5080590]

>>5079947

And to think, Xenogears was to be VII.

[Anonymous No.5080596]

>>5079961
Yeah that time Cloud got his bussy pounded by a mob boss while he was dressed in drag sure was emo

[Anonymous No.5080685]

>>5080163
even then, i feel like people over exaggerate how dark things get, things can get serious, but it's the more entertaining kind of serious instead of being up it's own ass.
not even close to being as bad as AC, which almost ruined everything about 7.

[Anonymous No.5080695]

>>5079961
you say that, but I, II, IV, and VI were pretty serious storywise.
VI, and VII have about as much serious and comedic stuff as each other, but for some reason people don't realize that or are don't want to admit it.

[Anonymous No.5080725]

>>5079947
there was never going to be a 6-2 though. what are you some kind of moron?

[Anonymous No.5080756]

>>5079961
It was the 90’s, being emo and edgy was cool as fuck back then.

[Anonymous No.5081029]

>>5080089
All that stuff is just shitty writing.

[Anonymous No.5081031]

>>5081029
I'll take fun shlock writing over whatever the fuck they were doing with FF8 and 9 anyday.

[Anonymous No.5081041]

>>5081029
It’s called having fun, not everything has to be super serious all the time.

[Anonymous No.5081046]

>>5081031
The reliance on schlock makes it seem like they weren't confident in the story. The humor in 8 & 9 is much more organic.

[Anonymous No.5081048]

>>5081046
The only humor in 8 was unintentional.

[Anonymous No.5081054]

>>5080279
>w-why don't you like my f-f-favorite game?

[Anonymous No.5081059]

>>5081041
I didn't say everything has to be super serious all the time, retard.
>>5081048
>The only humor in 8 was unintentional.
Examples?

[Anonymous No.5081064]

>>5081059
Like finding a perfectly fueled and supplied abandoned ship in the middle of space, we all watched that spoony experiment come on.

[Anonymous No.5081078]

>>5081064
Hmm I knew you wouldn't be able to come up with a real answer.

[Anonymous No.5081086]

>>5079947
>Final Fantasy 6-2

Thats the game that i wanted. On the U L T R 64, lol.

[Anonymous No.5081454]

>>5081064
>>>/v/
your braincells got confused and you picked the wrong board

[Anonymous No.5081459]

>>5081054
^^^^^^^^^ fucking THIS +1

ff7 fanbois are so fucking pathetic. enjoy you're gay emo hot topic edgelord SJW shit, while I'll take the superior mature FF6 experience

[Anonymous No.5081478]

>>5079961
7 being edgy and emo is just a shitty meme

[Anonymous No.5081545]

>>5080089
People "forget" it because most of the FFVII hate online comes from people who never played the game and get all their information from shitty memes. That slapping match followed by the FMV when Weapon gets shot in the face by the cannon is one of the greatest moments in video games. Me and my friends would load at that save point go through that sequence over and over again after school.

[Anonymous No.5081568]

>>5079947
This was a tech demo you tard. The story for VII was written long before they started experimenting with SGI Graphics hardware. God this place is so stupid and uninformed it hurts.

[Anonymous No.5081593]

>>5080383

This. There was never going to be a VI-2 and this wasn't even on actual N64 hardware, it's purely a thrown together tech demo on an SGI workstation. IF Square stayed on N64 hardware for some reason they'd have just made a different VII.

[Anonymous No.5081697]

>>5081054
That's not even what the point of my post was you retarded /v/ermin

>>5081459
You type like an idiot, and of course you included muh SJW boogeyman. /v/ is the only group of "people" on this planet pathetic enough to be bullied into submission by 200 pound blue haired tumblr users lmao

[Anonymous No.5081731]

>>5079947
This was just a random demo you fucklord, not indicative of an actual game project.

[Anonymous No.5082608]

FFVI was literally the first emo Final Fantasy. Terra was even more angsty and with less a sense of humor than Cloud even.

[Anonymous No.5082664]

>>5080685
AC is basically square falling for the memes, which, if you think about it, is kinda hilarious.

I fear FF7 remake wil get all SUPER SRS BZNS though.

[Anonymous No.5082765]

>>5082608
Don’t forget Celes’s suicide attempt and the bleak as all hell ruined world.

7 is only about as dark as a star wars or indiana jones movie.

>>5082664
It’s basically exactly what happened to sega and sonic. The embarrassing deviantart side of the fandom was the loudest part and the company sees them and thinks “oh, so this is what the fans like about it”

Only played ff7 a few years ago and was blown away by how much fun was in that game. Shame it’s been misrepresented for so long.

[Anonymous No.5082769]

>>5079947
>we almost got Final Fantasy 6-2

They never even tried making FF 6-2. The screenshot you posted is just Square testing out their SGI kits; FF6 was the latest finished game designs they had, so they used those designs to practice making 3d renders.

It was never intended to be a game, it was just the 3d artists practicing.

[Anonymous No.5082772]

>>5080089
Also the part where a mad scientist wanted Aeris to mate with a dog or whatever Red XIII is.

[Anonymous No.5082775]

>this thread

[Anonymous No.5082801]

>>5080173
Well tactics ogre pulled that one.

[Anonymous No.5082807]

>>5079947
It’s another “you know that game that is widely regarded as one of the highlights of its generation? well actually it’s shit” thread

[Anonymous No.5082812]

>>5082769
>They never even tried making FF 6-2. The screenshot you posted is just Square testing out their SGI kits; FF6 was the latest finished game designs they had, so they used those designs to practice making 3d renders.
>It was never intended to be a game, it was just the 3d artists practicing.

This FFVI demo was actually playable on a silicon graphics Onyx 1 workstation at SIGGRAPH 1995. It's possible, that it was also used to as a test to see what an N64 game would have looked like. The Onyx 1 isn't that different from the N64 hardware. Many 64 developers prototyped and developed games using similar hardware.

But this was never meant to be a full game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPO7c_XmesU

[Anonymous No.5082986]

>>5079947
I've never gotten past the first intro area in FF6 without quitting out of crushing boredom.

[Anonymous No.5083361]

>>5079978
I think anon is refering to this Isometric RPG concept not the actual 3D model one

[Anonymous No.5083563]

>>5082812
>The Onyx 1 isn't that different from the N64 hardware
Except the onyx 1 was a $250,000 graphical supercomputer in 1995.

[Anonymous No.5083576]

>>5080756
>he thinks people were "emo" in the 90's

I think you're mistaking the angst tunes of the 90's with the pure-focus-group "sadkid" music that happened 10-15 years later, like Linkin Park and MCR

[Anonymous No.5083618]

>>5083576
Yea the "dont cry emo kid" was a mid 2000s meme even though it was a decade late and was being applied to the wrong genre of music.

[Anonymous No.5083685]

>>5079947

I wonder how they pulled it off. I'm not a game dev, but my first instinct would be to treat the GBA like a weaker Saturn and use the sprites as quads, as both systems have similar rotation and scale capabilities. But it's hard to tell whether the games are using quads or tris.

[Anonymous No.5083687]

>>5083685
Moron copy pasting random shit

[Anonymous No.5083725]

>>5083618
>>5083576
Yeah a lot of my friends in college (late 90s) were into Emo rock. Most of the bands were obscure enough that I don't remember them, but the aesthetic was definitely more Weezer than "emokid"

[Anonymous No.5083728]

>>5080756
Nirvana was alternative/grunge, not emo.

[Anonymous No.5083753]

>>5083563
>Except the onyx 1 was a $250,000 graphical supercomputer in 1995.

Yeah, but it was introduced in 1993. But the system uses an MIPS R4400 CPU with RealityEngine2 graphics subsyste,. The N64 uses a R4300i CPU and has a graphics core based on RealityEngine 2. Obviously the Onyx has has much more expansion and memory as a system. But the N64 was still based on that hardware. RareWare employees said that they ran Goldeneye prototypes on Onyx 1 workstations and they ran at lower framerates than the finalized N64 hardware. Apparently the N64 is a little faster at rendering polygons in realtime.

It wasn't uncommon for Nintendo to suggest third party developers to prototype their N64 stuff on Silicon Graphics workstations like the Indy and Onyx. This could have been a crude prototype of an N64 game before they scrapped it.