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Anonymous Tue Oct 2 22:59:20 2018 No.5078518 [Reply] [Original]

Not only is this guy the best Final Fantasy protagonist but he's also objectively the best video game lead of all time. You can't prove me wrong, no matter how hard you try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:01:48 2018 No.5078523 File: 878 KB, 845x1065, cecil.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Squallfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:07:41 2018 No.5078537 >this is my opinion, and I DON'T want to discuss it What a retarded OP. If you just want to post something and not get any replies, then you're spamming. If you actually want to discuss it, then you're being autistic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:18:59 2018 No.5078558 I'm sorry OP but a great man has already defeated you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFTkY0IFL1g

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:22:12 2018 No.5078563 File: 460 KB, 570x1000, bartz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078523 Also another better protagonist

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:31:35 2018 No.5078574 >>5078558 >drawing from random encounters He's playing the game wrong you know

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:36:51 2018 No.5078586 >>5078518 Whatever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:53:49 2018 No.5078618 File: 953 KB, 850x1200, FFX_Artwork_Tidus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078518 wrong, but he is one of the best retro final fantasy protagonists

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 23:57:15 2018 No.5078625 File: 296 KB, 640x480, laughing eds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078618 >Tidus Jesus man, out of all the ones you could pick, you had to choose him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 00:03:04 2018 No.5078630 File: 138 KB, 284x465, Theatrhythm_CC_Benjamin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the best retro FF protag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 00:06:56 2018 No.5078636 >>5078618 I prefer tidus. he seems like a cool guy. squall seems like a guy that would listen to shoegaze and "experiment" with men

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 00:07:59 2018 No.5078638 File: 53 KB, 460x720, 9D5WSWe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078518 Obligatory

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 00:19:23 2018 No.5078651 >>5078518 Whatever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 00:26:28 2018 No.5078659 >>5078574 >playing a shitty card game

Anonymous Wed Oct 3 00:32:20 2018 No.5078672

>>5078518
The only issue I have about this statement is that the majority of Squall's most interesting pieces of dialogue are all kept contained in his thoughts, while everyone else around him is left with the few terse sentences that he decides to grace them with for a large stretch of the story.
>>5078523
As if Cecil is anyone worth talking about. The guy turns completely flat as a character not even a third of the way into the story. Once his redemption plotline is resolved, he takes a backseat in his own game. To say nothing of how poorly the game's story has aged to begin with.
The real best classic protagonist is the Warriors of Light from I and III. Being able to (competently) create your own characterizations and roleplay them the way you want to will always be infinitely superior to any pre-written material.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 01:20:18 2018 No.5078737 >>5078636 >squall seems like a guy that would listen to shoegaze and "experiment" with men wtf i love squall now

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 02:00:06 2018 No.5078794 Pfffffft, DUAL ORB 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 02:16:38 2018 No.5078817 >>5078618 Excellent bait, have a (you)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 07:05:29 2018 No.5079048 >>5078518 >graduated into a steady job I fucking jelly

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 07:27:38 2018 No.5079068 >>5078518 Wow steal my thread pasta. It is too soon for another big ff8 thread. I was going to wait about a month.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 07:29:10 2018 No.5079069 >>5078659 Its the best mini game in the series and the beat minigame in jrpgs as a whole. Hell, it is the best mini game in vidya as a whole

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 08:45:58 2018 No.5079141 File: 201 KB, 348x761, Zidane_Tribal_character.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078518 You wanna bet

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 09:38:31 2018 No.5079221 >>5078672 I'm not that guy but I really like Cecil. He's a stand up guy and I'm of the opinion that you don't need some game-long massive character development plot to be interesting or a good character.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 10:14:56 2018 No.5079260 >>5079141 This nigga knows what's up. Zidane will ritually pee with you under the stars to cheer you up. Let's see Squall do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 10:39:01 2018 No.5079286 >>5078672 Actually agree on this and think the Warriors of Light from FF1 are the best protagonists. They are your own to shape and mold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 10:49:47 2018 No.5079321 File: 342 KB, 751x1063, 1528274798703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >im in my esper form... RIGHT NOW.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 11:11:03 2018 No.5079364 File: 30 KB, 698x389, 9583416897.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078672 Eh, I still like him better than Squall's mopey/spergy attitude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 11:21:29 2018 No.5079384 >>5079321 Man, I really wish FFVI gets/got a proper remake. Amano's art lends itself really well to the setting and atmosphere. I'd love to see it "in real"

Anonymous Wed Oct 3 14:01:01 2018 No.5079708

>>5078518
I just finished FF8 and I can't keep thinking about how shitty Ultimecia's deal was. She was forced into being the villain and failing just because that's the way the universe was. I almost want to believe in R=U just because at least then she gets something bittersweet rather than just bitter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 15:40:19 2018 No.5079893 >>5078523 >an actual feminine faggot Wow

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 17:29:41 2018 No.5080094 >>5078518 >You can't prove me wrong, no matter how hard you try. You are the one who need to backup that claim. We don't have to "prove you wrong".

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 17:34:16 2018 No.5080101 >>5079893 He's more of a man than you'll ever be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 18:50:21 2018 No.5080190 >>5080101 False.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 19:19:12 2018 No.5080226 >>5078659 You can make more spells than you will ever need from items that drop from enemies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 19:31:39 2018 No.5080242 >>5078672 Too bad FF games are so tightly restricted gameplay wise there's no real role-playing to do. There's nothing like say the depth of choices in Planescape or Baldur's Gate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 19:56:04 2018 No.5080273 Squall is alright, and he deserves a bit more credit than he gets, but he's nowhere near the best protag

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 19:59:48 2018 No.5080276 >>5078518 >You can't prove me wrong And you aren't proving yourself right, either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 20:06:18 2018 No.5080287 File: 101 KB, 530x900, Ramza.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine being such a churlish knave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 20:51:18 2018 No.5080380 File: 460 KB, 570x1000, bartz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This might be a dumb question, but is having a blank slate for a protagonist a bad thing for an RPG?

Anonymous Wed Oct 3 20:54:36 2018 No.5080392

>>5080380
It depends entirely on the imagination and creativity of the audience and how willing they are to immerse themselves in the experience. A blank slate can either be the unparalleled best or the absolute worst because it's whatever you want it to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 21:04:41 2018 No.5080412 File: 7 KB, 243x208, images (9).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5078518 You really wanna go there

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 21:07:14 2018 No.5080415 >>5078518 He certainly is one of the very top alpha protags in FF.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 21:22:04 2018 No.5080434 >>5079708 Is there anything that completely kills the theory anyway? It adds up a lot more than Squall being dead does, and R=U at least adds quite a layer to the story.

Anonymous Thu Oct 4 01:17:39 2018 No.5080779

>>5078574
This is how the game tells you to go about it. You can get magic from draw points, but the tutorial at the beginning very specifically tells you to get magic from monsters. In fact, it even gives you the impression that drawing from monsters and immediately casting the spell you just drew is a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 01:20:28 2018 No.5080784 >>5080287 Ramza is awesome specifically because the story gives him room to be a bit cynical but also makes it clear that he's a good person at heart. He's a complex protagonist, but he never really dips into edgelord territory like Delita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 01:30:51 2018 No.5080797 >>5080380 depends on the game. i always prefer a blank slate party to a blank slate protag+NPC party members

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 02:52:01 2018 No.5080886 File: 65 KB, 184x233, Rance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rance is a much better protagonist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 05:59:02 2018 No.5081052 File: 111 KB, 720x640, whatever.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whatever kid, now let's blow this thing and get outta here

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 10:53:49 2018 No.5081363 >>5080434 no

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 10:58:20 2018 No.5081368 >>5079286 >They are your own to shape and mold. No see freedom of customization is a bad thing hence why the materia system is the worst thing ever and why every JRPG character should be predetermined and rigid as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 14:44:01 2018 No.5081698 >>5081363 Confirmed canon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 14:51:51 2018 No.5081707 >>5080784 I agree, even as the story progresses from a typical civil war to fighting demonic entities and he gets betrayed like twenty times he maintains his good nature at heart. Plus, all memes aside I enjoy his faux ye olde english.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 4 15:49:40 2018 No.5081778 >>5078651

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 10:49:23 2018 No.5083286 >>5081698 very well could be canon. at least much more than ___whateverguy is dead___.

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