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In an alternate universe, the 64 used cd's so FF7 was released exclusively for the system

>> No.5063048

>>5063031
Saturn should have used cartridges.

>> No.5063068

>then they censor the shit out of it
literally

>> No.5063146

>We would have got Earthbound 64 and not cutted to hell story of Mother 3
Sounds good

>> No.5063149

>>5063031
nice then all games has no sound you happy now?

>> No.5063157

>Nintendo actually allowed devs to include decent compression on disks
>Whole game is on one disk with no content cut

>> No.5063189

So basically the Nintendo Playstation?

>> No.5063203

>>5063048
Nope, it still would been used CDs but would come out late 95 and not trying to compete in 3D and there would been no 32x

>> No.5063364

>>5063146
Sorry but there is no proof that mother 3 was cut to hell. The 16 chapters referred to in that one source about 64 is too vague to go off of

>> No.5063367

>>5063031
Silicon Graphic had met Sega before Nintendo.
More chance of having Saturn 64bits than Nintendo 64 + CD.
Rather Nintendo should have use Disk Drive from 64DD than cartridge.

>> No.5063373

>>5063031
I dont think it would have looked good compared to PS1 FF7 judging from the SGI demo

>> No.5063391

I started a new playthrough yesterday after not playing it and abandoning it at the final boss fight almost 10 years ago.

What should I do to not fuck this playthrough up?

Also unlike 10 years ago, I'm playing it on a ps1 using an original disk instead of a pirated pc version of it.

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>>5063048
The Sega STV arcade system the saturn was based off of actually did play games off the cart slot

>> No.5065498 [DELETED] 

>in an alternate universe, N64 was the console with cringe JRPGs instead of good games
Hey, anybody remember how Cloud got fuck anally gang raped in FF7? Lmao, cool protagonist guys.

>> No.5065506

Hey, anybody remember how Cloud got anally gang raped in FF7? Lmao, cool protagonist.

>> No.5065513

>>5065506
like kevin nash in the summer of 92?

>> No.5065514

>>5063031
>F-Zero X innately possesses the features of F-Zero X Expansion Kit

Who needs a Nintendo 64 Classic Edition?

>> No.5065520

The N64 exclusively had childish baby games and platformers. FF7 would have wound up like Quest 64 if it was released on Nintendo.

>> No.5065584

>>5065520
FF7 was a childish baby game, though. You can literally just spam A for the entirety of the game.

>> No.5065772

>>5063391
Tifa's Powersoul is mega broken with critical hp, death sentence eskill and death blow material. 4/8/16x damage modifiers. She can hit for 10k at like level 25 lol. Essential for speed runs but not necessary for full playthroughs. Maybe give it a shot.

>> No.5065781

>>5065584
>can
you can also let bug chasers fuck your ass until you get grids but that doesn't make it the best way to live your life.

>> No.5065782

>>5063391
spam your limit breaks as soon as you get them early on and you'll unlock the higher level ones fairly quickly. They can be very useful for helping you get through the story.

>> No.5065784

>>5063031
In an alternate universe, Sony and Nintendo never had a falling out, so the Super CD became a thing and later the Playstation 64 became Nintendo's supreme hit console.
Saturn still failed because in all alternate universes Sega was always directed by incompetent assholes.

>> No.5065792

>>5065781
>literally defending bad game design by comparing player input to being a faggot fucker
lol.

>> No.5065815

>>5065781
Okay. And FF7 is a baby game.

>> No.5065829

>>5063031
They had issues with the system's performance. Storage medium was just the nail in the coffin.

>> No.5065836

>>5063048
Saturn should have used more ROM cart + CD games, especially in the West.

>> No.5067090

>>5063391
>pirated PC version
ROMs arent pirating.

>> No.5067412

>>5067090
Of course they are.

>> No.5067463

>>5067412
Nint. Pirates pirated roms for profit.

>> No.5067483

>>5065584
>>5065792
>>5065815
No, that's not a valid argument, it's actually a lazy cope.

N64 was incapable of hosting any complex games and their attempt at story rich RPGs culminated in literal dogshit like Quest64.

Other than that they had childish junk like Mario or a loosely connected series of box pushing minigames like the ocarina of time. Sad really.

>> No.5067487

>>5067483
FF7 was a baby game. As much as any game on N64. Pointing out how easy and babyish it is is absolutely a valid argument.

>> No.5067490

>>5067483
>FF7
>complex game
check out this troglodyte lmao

>> No.5067495
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>>5067483
>N64 was incapable of hosting any complex games
Super Mario 64 is infinitely more complex than FF7. FF7 doesn't even have gameplay, it's literally just navigating menus.

>> No.5067497

>>5067487
We'll of course it's easy compared to PC CRPGs back in the day, the point is though is it's too complex for the N64 cartridge system or the average N64 manbabys underdeveloped frontal lobe.

>>5067490
>no arguments, just meme arrows
>childish name calling

/v/ermin go home

>> No.5067510

>>5067497
>the average N64 manbabys underdeveloped frontal lobe.
I played FF7 when I was a kid and beat it easily. Ocarina of Time and SM64 are far better and more complex video games.

>>5067495 is correct. FF7 doesn't have any gameplay, how can it be more complex than games that have gameplay?

>> No.5067516

@5067495
>bing bing wahoo gotta get the goombah
>complex

It's neither technically complex (limitations of a defunct cartridge based system), has a childish plot (come over for cake XD) and has subpar gameplay elements compared to quality platforming entries of the era such as Crash and Spyro which actually dared to break new ground.

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>>5067516
Super Mario 64 has objectively more complex movement mechanics than any game released since, though.
>has subpar gameplay elements compared to quality platforming entries of the era such as Crash and Spyro which actually dared to break new ground.
Oh, so you're actually retarded.

>> No.5067524

>>5067516
>has a childish plot
All video games have childish plots, though. If anything, Mario is less childish than the edgy grimdark shit you play because it doesn't pretend to be mature.

>> No.5067526

>>5067516
>doesn't tag the post
>responds to it anyway
it takes talent to be this stupid.

>> No.5067534

>>5067523
>muh movement mechanics mapped to a controller proves it's a good game

Sad that this is what it's come to instead o discussing gameplay elements.

>>5067524
Listen, I just said Nintendo exclusively published childish manbaby games. No need to get butt hurt and start crying about "w-well you only like grimdark". If you want to chase goombas and throw barrels go ahead pal, but accept it for what it is.

>> No.5067536

>>5067534
>Sad that this is what it's come to instead o discussing gameplay elements.
How are movement mechanics not gameplay elements?
>I just said Nintendo exclusively published childish manbaby games.
Yeah, and so did Playstation. What's your point?

>> No.5067538

@5067526
One tantrum throwing nintoddler is responding to me to flame the thread, so I'm keeping his (You)s without sharing any of my own.

>> No.5067542

>>5067538
You are giving him (You)s though, little guy. You can't seriously think that neglecting to tag someone is the same thing as withholding attention.

>> No.5067550

>>5067538
>includes post number
>puts extra effort into formatting to make sure it isn't tagged
>responds to the post anyway
>"i-it doesn't matter because his post isn't tagged!!!"
wow yeah, you really showed me lmao. keep flailing, i thrive on this.

>> No.5067552

>>5067536
>so did Playstation.

Nope, every Nintendo system after the SNES pretty much only had mediocre first party IPs as their selling point because Nintendo became increasingly more hostile to third party developers leading to less diversity of games and Nintendo developed games or third party developers heavily mimicking their design philosophy which was to produce games for younger audiences first and foremost. Was this a bad marketing strategy? Not at all, they were very successful making childrens games - the only negative occurrence is the arrested development this caused in a subset of Nintendo fans who still get excited for the same tired IPs from their childhoods as adults and get supremely triggered when you point out they are playing games on a system that primarily caters to young children.

>> No.5067558

@5067542
@5067550
Yes, yes keep dancing puppets.

>> No.5067559

>>5067552
>American reading comprehension
All Playstation games are for children. I'm not sure how I can make this more clear for you.

>> No.5067565

>>5067552
hate to break it to you, but the M rated games you played when you were 10 are children's games. i can't think of a more childish quality than to think gore and swearing make a subject matter more mature.

>> No.5067568

>>5063048
the saturn should have been delayed a year, to fix the fucked up mobo and 3d graphics accessability. there should have been no cd or 32x. then saturn would have been top dog and we would have the dreamcast 3 or someshit.. nothing would have changed much!!! we still have shenmue 3 so wtf.

>> No.5067572

>>5067558
>no I'M the one trolling you!
>p-please believe me!!!

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>>5065584
>FF7 was a childish baby game, though
kek, ok. but mario and banjo kazooi are not baby games. there are about 5 games on n64 that could be considered non baby games. and the only real solid one is a drunk squirrel. ff7 by comparison is fucking crazy dark, all the death and pain and mindfuck that happens in it. like the part where you are trying to escape shinra inc. and jenova escapes. they would never let that kind of mature shit on the n64. you are a delusional NPC

>> No.5067585

>>5067578
>unironically thinking childish philosophy and laughable steampunk fantasy shit is mature
Mario and Banjo Kazooie have gameplay. FF7 doesn't. The fact that you keep falling back on FF7's terrible story as its only redeeming quality is embarrassing.

>> No.5067587

@5067572
Yes, keep yapping my little lap dog.

Just bring me more delicious (You)s

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>>5067510
i beat OoT and sm64 way easier than i beat ff7 when i was a kid. there is strategy involved with rpgs and a whole storyline to become involved in. you think OoTs story line is more complex or mature than ff7s? if ff7 doesnt have "gameplay" than no jrpgs have gameplay. you are a dumbass trying to pigeonhole the definition of the word gameplay to benefit your arguement. well thats not how words work you fucking moron!

>> No.5067595

>>5067578
FF7 has a mature story when you're a 12 year old. You're supposed to grow out of that phase when you read Lord of the Flies in middle school. Most people recognize that FF7 has no gameplay at around that age too.

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>>5067559
>relying on nationalist garbage and repeating your point without expanding further as if it was an argument in the first place.

Yup, we're done here pearls before swine and what not. This inability to follow a simple conversation or formulate relevant responses seems to heavily correlate with being an adult Nintendo fan.

Arrested development.

>> No.5067602

>>5067585
you cant just change the definition of words to fit your narrative, dumbass. gameplay doesnt mean what you want it to mean!

>> No.5067609

>>5067602
I'm drawing a distinction between gameplay and menuing. All games have menus, but only in JRPGs are menus considered gameplay.

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>>5067595
ohh yeah, cause lord of the flies isnt even more of an edgy masturbation than ff7. there are alot of interesting elements in ff7s. its not just save the fucking princess, yeah!! the mental gymnastics involved in trying to flip the script is amazing. nintoddlers will always try to project their insecurities onto others. ohh yeah lets take a game that involves jumpin and collecting stars in order to save a princess and say its more complex than a strategy game with a deep storyline. you are a shallow faggot!

>> No.5067613

>>5067597
>without expanding further
What's to expand on? The fact that you unironically believe having an M on the box means your game is sophisticated and mature?

All playstation games were developed with children as the primary audience. That's why you and all of your friends played them as children.

>> No.5067616

>>5067609
its called strategy, you moron. are you some fucking idiot zoomer trying to troll revisionist bullshit. cause that what it sounds like

>> No.5067617

>>5067616
>spamming circle the entire game
>strategy
lmao

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>>5067617
>>spamming circle the entire game
go spam circle the entire game and see how far it gets you.. this isnt chrono trigger.

its fucking obvious youve never played the game before. you would die at the first boss, by just spaming circle. but you keep trolling you classy fuck.

pic related (you)

>> No.5067648

>>5067624
>go spam circle the entire game and see how far it gets you
You can literally beat the game doing it.
> you would die at the first boss, by just spaming circle.
Guard Scorpion is easily beatable with attack spam. It just takes slightly longer.

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>>5067648
>>5067648
>Guard Scorpion is easily beatable with attack spam. It just takes slightly longer.

kek, ok sounds legit, faggot!

>> No.5067670

>>5067658
Yes, that's correct. The fight tries to act as a tutorial to show you how mechanical enemies are weak against electrical attacks (and that presumably this applies to other magic/enemy types), but you aren't actually required to use bolt to beat it.

Are you sure YOU have played FF7? Your knowledge is coming across pretty thin.

>> No.5067684

>>5067670
I should also add that using elemental magic against its opposing enemy type is not a meaningfully complex strategy. There are children's puzzle books that require more brain power than this. Pokemon games have the same system and they're for 6 year olds.

>> No.5067691

>>5067610
>its not just save the fucking princess, yeah!!
Mario isn't about the story though. People who play and enjoy Mario games don't go around pretending their baby story is deep and complex and mature like FF7 fans do.

>> No.5067696

>>5067684
if you spam circle, you cant use magic anyways. why are you moving the goalpost?

>> No.5067698

It’s been decades and you faggots are still on your console war bullshit. Just shift the fuck up and enjoy both sides of the same coin.

>> No.5067701

>>5067696
>if you spam circle, you cant use magic anyways
How does this contradict anything that I said? You're retarded, aren't you?

>> No.5067706

>>5067610
>yeah lets take a game that involves jumpin and collecting stars in order to save a princess and say its more complex than a strategy game with a deep storyline.
Super Mario 64 is objectively more complex than FF7, yes. In particular the physics and movement mechanics.

FF7's story also isn't deep, nor is its combat meaningfully strategic.

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>>5067691
>>5067691
>Mario isn't about the story though
then dont bring up complexity and "babys first" bullshit into it. marios story is disney baby simple, with simple fucking mechanics. yeah, they can be fun, but its fun like a pop song. same with OoTs storyline, its fucking simplistic as fuck and never changes. over and over the same game, with the same name, just different skins. im not saying ff7 has the most grandest strategy with the deepest lore, but if you compare it with mario 64 and OoT, it is way more complex and makes both of those games look like "babies first" bullshit.

>> No.5067713

>>5067698
This. Imagine being mentally stunted to the age of a 7th grader for decades.
Shit like this makes me glad I had all the major consoles at the time of their release. Just enjoy some games, no matter the platform.

>> No.5067714

>>5067709
>then dont bring up complexity and "babys first" bullshit into it
I didn't. Have you not been following the reply chain? It was the anon shitting on Nintendo who brought complexity up as a talking point, you illiterate faggot.

>> No.5067719

>>5067706
>Super Mario 64 is objectively more complex than FF7, yes. In particular the physics and movement mechanics.

duh, ff7 is not a platformer you absolute retard! mario would be the shittiest platformer in the world if it had controls like ff7. i dont even understand why you are making this arguement??

>>5067701
>How does this contradict anything that I said?

becuase in order to do any of that you cant just spam circle. you have some fucking screws loose. you are like a conspiracy theorist, thinking A points to B, but there is no logical deduction in your reasoning. i implore you to think a little bit more, before jumping to conclusions like a girl on the rag!

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>>5067709
>with simple fucking mechanics.
Oh boy, check out this mongoloid.
>they can be fun, but its fun like a pop song.
No, they're fun like a video game.
>same with OoTs storyline, its fucking simplistic as fuck and never changes. over and over the same game, with the same name, just different skins.
This is true for Final Fantasy, too. If you had any critical thought power at all you would notice the thematic identicalities between every Final Fantasy game and how they're all essentially the same story each time with minor differences and new irrelevant worldbuilding. At least Zelda has movement, physics, and manual combat instead of selecting text on a screen to make a lengthy animations play.
>if you compare it with mario 64 and OoT, it is way more complex and makes both of those games look like "babies first" bullshit.
Ironically, only a child would think this.

>> No.5067728

>>5067714
>I didn't. Have you not been following the reply chain? It was the anon shitting on Nintendo who brought complexity up as a talking point, you illiterate faggot.


and the you nintoddlers tried to flip the script by saying " nuh uhh, maryio and zelda is more complex than ff7". Im not even saying mario and zelda are bad games, but they are not more complex than ff7. give a little kid mario 64 or OoT and they will be able to understand it immediately, give a kid ff7 and they probably wont know what the fuck is going on.

>> No.5067734

>>5067728
>give a little kid mario 64 or OoT and they will be able to understand it immediately, give a kid ff7 and they probably wont know what the fuck is going on.
I beat FF7 when I was a kid, so no, that's not true.

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>>5067721
>This is true for Final Fantasy, too
kek, no.. not even close to the extent that nintedo does with every game they make. i can admit there are similarities between the final fantasies, but to be such a fucking die hard sith nintendrone to think that final fantasy games have a more similar storyline than zelda or mario games is astoundingly idiotic and willfully ignorant. im done feeding you troll.

>> No.5067742

>>5067734
yeah, that doesnt have anything to do with how much easier it is to understand mario and zeldas mechanics compared to ff7s. nice non sequitor response, fucking moron.

>> No.5067747

>>5067740
>no.. not even close to the extent that nintedo does with every game they make
Yes, actually. Final Fantasy has more (shitty) worldbuilding and it's dazzled up with more words to pad it out, but the actual stories themselves aren't all that different between many of the games.
>that doesnt have anything to do with how much easier it is to understand mario and zeldas mechanics compared to ff7s
All three games are easy to grasp as a beginner, but Mario and Zelda's mechanics are by far more difficult to master. Just ask people who speedrun any of the three games.

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>>5067747
>All three games are easy to grasp as a beginner, but Mario and Zelda's mechanics are by far more difficult to master. Just ask people who speedrun any of the three games.


do you even understand why that is?

>> No.5067754

>>5067747
>but the actual stories themselves aren't all that different between many of the games.

but every zelda and mario game have the exact same storyline. you are the hero that must save the princess.

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>>5067728
This is retarded. Of course Zelda and Mario are more mechanically complex VIDEOGAMES than Final Fantasy VII. Are you slow, were you dropped, etc etc? The spatial awareness and eye/hand coordination moves involved are way more complex than simple menu navigation and pressing X or O. OF COURSE Final Fantasy VII features a more complex STORY than any Zelda or Mario game. But this doesn't make it a more complex videogame. The simple maths any Final Fantasy game expects you to solve around the battle system doesn't make it a more complex videogame. You're arguing about the complexities of the wrong medium. It's amazing to me that this would be an argument to begin with.

You could keep us all in the dark about your pathetic brainpower by keeping your mouth shut. Did you know: It's not mandatory for you to be embarrassing yourself every single chance you get.

>> No.5067774

>>5067772
>The spatial awareness and eye/hand coordination moves involved are way more complex than simple menu navigation and pressing X or O. OF COURSE Final Fantasy VII features a more complex STORY than any Zelda or Mario game. But this doesn't make it a more complex videogame

this is literally what ive been saying the whole time, but trying to explain it to nintendrones, they make it seem like im hating on those games, when im not. then here you come with this shit bashing me for something that you took out of context. great, how fucking more autistic can you get?

>> No.5067775

>>5067749
Because FF7 is mechanically barebones and Mario/Zelda are mechanically complex.

>> No.5067796

>>5067775
nope, kek.

its because in rpgs... creating certain strategies in a confined environment is basically a sure thing, not all the time, there is still enough variance to fuck you up along the way. its not a freeform mechanic, its more like chess, where strategies are calculated to win under certain circumstances, but its not 100%. then you want to talk about games where its up to the players reactions to achieve something. we will never be able to do something exactly the same over and over and over again, there is always variance in our actions. so, its much more difficult to master something that is prone to human error, than a calculated system that has has fairly accurate percentages and strategies to account for.

a good analogy for what you are doing is,saying "chess is less complex game than simon says."

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>>5067774
Oh, so NOW FFVII is less complex. Fine, I'm more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Here's some unwarranted advice you'll probably kick me in the nuts for: Stop trying to explain your opinions to people (nintendrones, as you eloquently put it) clearly not willing to listen.

>how fucking more autistic can you get?
Well I was never tested for autism, but since you're here, I think it's great that the 4chan doctors saved me both the time AND money.

>> No.5067805

>>5067796
It's not a good analogy and you already know this, and yet choose to be a hypocrite about it. Are you willing to tell us why are you choosing to push intentionally flawed reasoning? It makes you look either stupid or perverse.

>> No.5067810

>>5067796
Yeah, except chess is actually harder to master than simon says, while FF7 is significantly easier to master than SM64 or OOT.

>> No.5067815

>>5067798
>Oh, so NOW FFVII is less complex
no, just like you said in a nutshell, they are different genres and the mechanics arent supposed to be the same, but they both have complex mechanics in certain areas.

i was just agreeing with the guy that said if ff7 was on n64 it would have been like quest 64, because nintendo DEFINITELY would have cut a lot of the the "mature" (in quotations for you super edgy cunts) content from ff7. then people started arguing that marios platforming mechanics are better than ff7s platforming mechanics!

>> No.5067826

>>5067810
simon says relies on human cognition and changes with each playthrough. even the best speedrunners dies stupid deaths often! its rare that you see an rpg speedrunner die from reactionary mistakes.

>> No.5067835

>>5067826
>>5067826
>even the best speedrunners dies stupid deaths often!
platformer speedrunners*

>> No.5067836

>>5067483
It both astounds and depresses me that anyone could actually be this retarded. Let's forget that the N64 had games like Ogre Battle 64 which were infinitely deeper and more complex than surface level dogshit like FF7 for a moment, I want to focus on a word you used: "incapable". It's as if years of huffing your own cum-scented farts have given you this notion that the N64 not only didn't have deep games, but that it was physically incapable of producing them. Just think about that for a moment. Just think about how retarded you actually are.

But you know, I suppose I can't blame you. You've spent your entire life absorbed in JRPGs, the absolute worst genre known to man, so I can't really expect you to know, let alone seek out, experiences like Perfect Dark with its thousands of customization options, or Super Mario 64 with its fluid movement system, or Majora's Mask with its living and breathing world, or Star Fox 64 with its intense dog fights and open-ended combat. No, I can't expect that, because you've convinced yourself that a genre composed of navigating anime characters through laughable scenarios where your only input is shifting through menus and measuring statistical values is somehow the height of quality gameplay. Frankly, I pity you.

>> No.5067850

>>5067836
based n64 guy

>> No.5068150

>>5067836
Not here to shit on any game but can confirm, Majora's Mask is much better in every way than FF7.

>> No.5068152

>>5067836
damn i wanna get a repro of ogre battle 64 but i have an infinite backlog of games already.. maybe i should just get flashcarts already for all my nintendos

>> No.5068158

>>5063031
Then PlayStation gets every other game because Sony was subsidizing developers, which leads to the generation playing out exactly the same way except that JRPGs never get popular in the west.

>> No.5068159

>>5068152
just buy authentic dude, it's not even that expensive. there's nothing else like it, even the other ogre battle games pale in comparison.

>> No.5068169

>>5067836
>Just think about how retarded you actually are

If he could do that, anon, he wouldn't be so retarded to begin with :(

>> No.5068172

>>5068158
If the 64 was as powerful as it was, with cds. The PS1 has no chance. Incredibly weak overall.

>> No.5068204

>>5068172
Not having load times was A OK though, and I'm not sure anything really suffered by being on carts. You know how long it takes to 100% a lot of 64 games?

>> No.5068208

Jesus christ /vr/ is even worse than /v/

>> No.5068574

>>5067836
absolutely savage

>> No.5068595
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>>5067713

>Shit like this makes me glad I had all the major consoles at the time of their release

I think I just became a Communist after reading this. I was fucking poor, I have literally never got a console the same year of it's launch.

What did your parents do for a living? Did your dad perform secret abortions on the golden goose or some shit? Damn man, I'm jealous as fuck right now.

(to be fair, I work a pretty decent job and could probably buy all the consoles at launch but the shit coming out now sucks anyways)

>> No.5068627

>>5067836
probably the most elegant and impressive dismantling of a jrpg autist i've ever seen. 10/10.

>> No.5069256

>>5063031
that timeline isn't canon

>> No.5069280

>>5068627
There were really only half points and ad hominems. Ogre battle is not "deep" by any stretch kek. Sm64 has bready good controls. The level designs were ass and bland. Good music though. OoT was great when it first came out, it had nice mechanics. But its so bland and the story really just doesnt give you enough incentive to beat the game, unless you still enjoy childrens cartoons. Maybe thats why i dont like n64 as much as snes or nes. The 3D design most n64 games chose, just puts me off. Its like watching barney or teletubbies or someshit. Perfect dark is great though.

>> No.5069453

>>5065772
Fuck. I forgot I made that post.
Anyway, I always thought Tifa was a bit weak compared to the rest but I already committed to keep her this time around before reading your post.
Anyway I just left Midgar and reached Kalm.
My main party is Cloud Tifa and Barret.
>>5065782
I always do it asap. Is there any way to make limit breaks load faster?
>>5067090
I got it off tpb so that counts as pirating for me.

>> No.5069460

>>5069453
yes stock up on hypers and make sure you keep your people in fury

>> No.5069469

>>5069460
Will do.

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