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5054415 No.5054415 [Reply] [Original]

Maybe the Memecast failed because 90% of its library was arcade ports that could be finished in 30 minutes.

>> No.5054485

I love Dreamcast but that game sucks. It feels half done and the fighting is super repetitive.

Don't know why it gets all the praise it does around here

>> No.5054524

>>5054485
because anyone who owns a real copy probably sold one of their limbs to buy it

>> No.5054531 [DELETED] 

>>5054485
Credit feeder spotted

>> No.5054536

>>5054415
How is does that demonstrate failure? SEGA consoles were always about bringing the arcade experience to the home as first principle.

>> No.5054596

>>5054485
every game is super repetitive is you use the same dumb approach to it every time you button mashing low iq gimp.

Get a fucking 1cc 2-all then come back and talk about the game, loser.

>>5054415
99% arcade perfect ports which can last a long time if you actually try to learn them which you don't because you are low skill, low info and violently lacking in discipline, stick to gay elf sims.

>> No.5054601

>>5054415
did better than the saturn.. the console that nobody bought.

>> No.5054865

>>5054485
>(You)

>> No.5054914

>>5054485
Appeal to wealth fallacy.

>> No.5054916

>Arcade ports
the lack of arcade ports. Sega released 15 arcade games between 1998 to 2000 and only released 2 on the Dreamcast

>> No.5054939

>>5054916
>and only released 2 on the Dreamcast
>2
Crazy Taxi
F355 Challenge
Sega Rally 2
18 Wheeler American Pro Trucker
Sega Bass Fishing
Sega Marine Fishing
Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram
Outtrigger
Dynamite Cop
Zombie Revenge
House of the Dead 2
Typing of the Dead
Virtua Tennis

>> No.5054956

>>5054914
So basically any Saturn/PDS thread.

>> No.5054964

>>5054415
Despite your dumbass way of saying it, I was actually thinking something similar the other day. The Dreamcast did have some great games filled with depth and requiring a lot of time, but most of them were very arcady by nature. I personally love the console for this. But at a time when people were craving deep story and time investment, it probably wasn't the best library for a lot of people.

>> No.5054997

How do you spot underage retards, /vr/? If they start bashing arcade ports I automatically assume they're not older than 18-20.

>> No.5055004
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5055004

>>5054956
correct.

>> No.5055005

>>5054997
Not bashing them/defending them is more a sign you are underage.

>> No.5055008

>>5054939
The best games didn't make to the console

>> No.5055015 [DELETED] 

>implying there's something wrong with short games
Get back to your Final Fagassy, jarpig-kun.

>> No.5055019

>>5055005
Pretty much every retard bashing arcade ports don't get that there was no other way to play those games at home back then, and neither understand Arcade gaming itself, which is a sign of not being alive when those were popular. So no, nice try.

>> No.5055021

>>5055015
>I said fag

whoa dude

I bet you have friends

>> No.5055028 [DELETED] 

>>5055021
>getting triggered by fag
I think you're lost.

>>>/tumblr/

>> No.5055029

>>5054964
I like that too but:

Skies of Arcadia (meant to be exclusive)
Ecco the Dolphin
Grandia II
Record of Lodoss War
Resident Evil Code Veronica (meant to be exclusive)
Railroad Tycoon
Hidden and Dangerous

All kinds of good games came to dreamcast. The main problem is that PS2 had them all except five times the quantity.

>> No.5055034

Totally embarassing thread of clueless people bashing each other due to an argument which they know nothing about. The reasons for the Dreamcasts failure have been well documented countless times and discussed to death.

>> No.5055052

>>5055019
It’s clear you had little experience at that time yourself. That or you were just a consumer whore that took it up the ass whenever a port was thrown at you.

>> No.5055060

>>5055034
It’s a shitposting thread for (You)s senscrity isn’t here. I make threads like this from time to time to gauge how autistc anons will get.

>> No.5055467

>>5055028
did I make you ree with my normie speak, friendo?

>> No.5055472

>>5054596
Quit skill shaming, its offensive.

>> No.5055481 [DELETED] 

>>5055467
Shut the fuck up already, niggerfaggot.

>> No.5055494

>>5054531
>>5054596
Are you idiots dense? Of course casual audience in their own home are going to 'credit feed' because they expect home console games to have infinite continues. We're talking about why the console failed financially, and this has to include how general audience plays games. Insulting the poster is missing the point.

90% of people playing arcade ports do NOT play for 1cc and that is just truth, whether you like it or not. Arcade based library was simply a mistake. What they should've done was take arcade games and make pseudo-sequels that are expanded to last couple hours, but are easier in difficulty, because that's what people expect from home consoles.

>>5054601
Saturn did like shit because Sega had too many eggs in a basket and people had no idea if they should buy Saturn or 32x.

>> No.5055505

>>5055472
fuck off weak ill tranny scum. i promote high standards and effort.

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5055516

>>5055060
>autist gauging other autists power levels...

how absolutely meta, kek!

>> No.5055520

>>5055505
>effort
It's a game anon. A game

>> No.5055538 [DELETED] 

>>5055494
Only dense cunt here is you desu, we're replying to another anon who is addressing the game directly instead of talking about the DC. For arcade games they shouldn't have allowed credit feeding to begin with and used checkpoints or limited continues. Though either way the games stood no chance so it's pointless talking about this.

>> No.5055558

>>5054485
I feel like it could have been better as a twin stick shooter. Is the arcade version like that?

>> No.5055578

>>5055538
considering that 4chan is for adults and any gamer over the age of 14 should know that you didn't really beat any game unless you 1cc that shit, the criticism of anything as being a credit feeder really doesn't hold water

you really have to be able to explain why attempting to 1cc isn't fun or the design is bad to not be laughed out of the thread

>> No.5055587 [DELETED] 

>>5055578
First day on /vr/ I take it? This board is filled with credit feeders who think a 1cc is a random self imposed challenge that's also near impossible unless you play 24/7 for decades.

>> No.5055648

>>5055587
Takes time to git gud. I'm happy for you that you have lots of free time for your one interest, anon.

>> No.5055658

>>5055648
destroyed

>> No.5055663

>>5055516
I mean. It does what it’s suppose too.

>> No.5055683 [DELETED] 

>>5055648
A 1cc isnt getting gud and not really, takes longer to clear some shitty RPG than to get a basic clear in most arcade games, I'm willing to bet I play games less weekly than you do infact

>> No.5055685

>>5055538
I have no opinion on this discussion and don't even dislike what you're saying. However the fact that you use the term "desu" means you're a faggot and you automatically lose every discussion you use it in.

>> No.5055692 [DELETED] 

>>5055685
Didn't realize 4chan was this serious and mature, I'll refrain from posting memes next time I say anything. Thanks foe the heads up, cheers.
- Anon

>> No.5055717

remember kids, bad games don't exist as long as you 1cc them.

>> No.5055723

>>5054531
>being good at a game magically makes a shit game not shit for some reason
moron

>> No.5055725 [DELETED] 

>>5055717
Said no one ever. "Repetitive" is just a stock complaing of people wceho credit feed removing all in incentives and systems that are meant to encourage and reward mindful play. Removing punishment from a game makes everything boring because it means all strategies are pretty much equal.

>> No.5055727 [DELETED] 

>>5055723
Game isn't shit though, you're making it shit by credit feeding because you don't know any better.

>> No.5055728

>>5054415
12 year old creddit spammer detected.

>> No.5055734

>>5054964
The main selling point were the sports games, and it was the best console for those. The dreamcast died due to sega of japan meddling and not much else.

>> No.5055940

>>5054524
lolwut? I originally bought it because it was like 20 bucks new. Damn. I have no idea where my copy is, either.

>> No.5056813

>>5054914
wow, I had no idea cannon spike cost so fucking much. I've always just burned CDs for DC so I never knew. Why does it cost so much?

>> No.5056896

>>5054415
>Memecast
zoomers like this are why the internet needs age verification

>> No.5056908

>>5054596
>Get a fucking 1cc 2-all then come back and talk about the game, loser.

when is the last time you've even kissed a girl?

>> No.5056983

>>5055494
i turned that shit off before i even needed to credit feed because it was so boring

>> No.5057063

>>5054601
I had a Saturn as a kid

>> No.5057075

>>5056896
To be fair, I understand why the underage kids might not appreciate the dreamcast when many of its best games have been ported to other consoles after the fact.

>> No.5057089

>>5055494
>90% of people playing arcade ports do NOT play for 1cc and that is just truth, whether you like it or not. Arcade based library was simply was a mistake.

So the real reason the DC failed was because the average gamer is a mental retard who is incapable of appreciating a quality video game.

>> No.5057536

>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah why don't all old games last at least 50 hours

Zoomers need to get beaten on the streets

>> No.5057541

>>5054415
You mean like Tekken, Soul Blade, Ridge Racer and many other popular arcade ports at Playstation that pushed the console's sales?

>> No.5057545

>>5054415
Still they had better replay value that most Playstation shovelware and bigger excitement.

>> No.5057590

>>5055028
Thinking that what he said was someone triggered

Fag

>> No.5057598 [DELETED] 

>>5057590
>I said fag

whoa dude

I bet you have friends

>> No.5057608
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5057608

>>5054415
That was the entire appeal. That was always the appeal for SEGA consoles (for me anyway) being able to play SEGA arcade games at home. That and their ips too.

Now that I’m older and don’t have time to play 100 hour games, I really like short games now.

>> No.5057615

>>5055015
Cringe

>> No.5057619

>>5056908
>implying he doesn't just 1cc prostitutes instead

>> No.5057692

>>5054485
Got it used when it came out. Haven't played it in a while but it was alright. It's a weird top-down arcade shooter that rewards you for being perfect. I'm pretty sure you can finish story mode in less than 10-15 minutes. Actually beating every characters story mode in less than one credit is another story.

>> No.5057819

>>5057598
I don't think that works under this context

>> No.5058286

>>5055029
>five times the quantity.

It took years before the ps2 built its library. And it had probably the worst launch lineup int he industry. Meanwhile Dreamcast had killer apps day one.

>> No.5058375

>>5058286
B-BUT DUDE FANTAVISION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da7RYUSU5-8

>> No.5058906

>>5058286
dreamcast had 18 launch titles, ps2 had 29.

>> No.5058929

>>5058906
Dreamcast had Sonic Adventure and Soul Calibur as launch games, PS2 had a bunch of B and C titles no one cared about.

>> No.5059016

>>5054415

why are people so fucking retarded on /vr/?

People were satisfied with PS and had no desire to jump over to DC because they'd rather wait until PS2 which literally just around the corner

Only hardcore gamers,fgc, and kids cared about DC when it was announced the mass public was already invested in Sony.

>> No.5059163

Dreamcast was released at an awkward time. It was halfway between the PSX and PS2 in terms of technology. Same thing happened with the Saturn.

>> No.5059179

>>5059163
>halfway

>> No.5059209

>>5054415
no problemo i liked to play the same dawn 4 levels in pso over 300 hours

>> No.5059243

I wish we could see new Sega consoles.I fed up with Nintendo and its decisions.

>> No.5059281

Why does no one mention back compat? If you got a DC, it wouldn't play your Saturn games.

If you had a PSX then you undoubtedly had a larger library of games than your Saturn-owning friends, and thus there was nothing to lose in upgrading to PS2.

>> No.5060019

>>5057608
""""""I don't have time"""""""

love this meme right here
As someone who is a working adult with a life, I still find time to play games to completion. You just don't WANT to find the time. I used to same the same thing

>> No.5061719

>>5060019
some ppl work even in their spare time smart guy

>> No.5062083

>>5059243
I think of Sega rather filling the same shoes as Microsoft, not Nintendo.

>> No.5062114 [DELETED] 

>>5062083
That's a disgrace to Sega. Microsoft is a fucking joke and has no right being involved in vidya.

>> No.5062139

>>5059163
Dreamcast could fucking emulate the PS. It wasn't halfway at all.

>> No.5064323

>>5054415
It didnt fail at all. It was a glorious console.

>> No.5065342

>>5058929
>B and C titles
>GTA 3
>MGS 2
>Silent Hill 2
>DMC
>FF X
lol at you

>> No.5065384 [DELETED] 

>>5065342
>casual sandbox shite
>moviegame
>moviegame
>babby's first bmup
>jarpig
what a terrible line-up

>> No.5065410

>>5065384

I really like Sega, but you're pathetic.

>> No.5065442 [DELETED] 

>>5065410
[insert redditspace here]
why? because my taste in games isn't awful like his?

>> No.5065461

>>5065342
>it's all japanese games
Boy where did the time go.

>> No.5065474

>>5065342

Those aren't launch titles anon. In 2000 the PS2 really only had SSX, maybe Tekken Tag if we're being generous.

>> No.5065679

>>5054415
People didn't think in terms of completion time back then, and even if a game in theory took only a short while to go through it could still take way longer due to difficulty.

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5066779

>>5065342
This was the holiday season a few months after the launch. Pic related was the launch. Still decent.
>>5058929
Nigga what are you on about

>> No.5066808

>>5055029
Power Stone 2 has a lot of unlockable items for multiplayer and is a game I played for months.
D2, Bluestinger and Illbleed are not quick arcade games.
Dynamite Deca 2 has multiple paths and a unlockable gallery, which is more than all other brawlers did to that point in time.

>> No.5066812

>>5066779

ps2 was the peak of video gaming, even though it's not retro

>> No.5066818

>>5066779
seeing the picture you posted I agree with >>5058929
That list looks awful. Lots of sports games (probably the reason of the success and the reason playstation doesn't understand gaming ever). TimeSplitters1 looked almost like a ps1 game and isn't a great start for the otherwise epic series. Honestly the only games that look interesting are tekken, DOA and Summoner. And maybe X-Squad, would need to see the back of the box.
Unreal Tournament I played on PC. The success of the playstation is truly unholy and unlogical. Everything about it is shit, from the controller to console design itself, to the launch titles, to it's fan base (I got a buddy who is a playstation fetishist and he's somewhat retarded and buys lots of expensive shit every week to boost his ego, but is in the end useless shit and he got barely any money. He takes credits to buy this crap. He is also a mac idiot loser.)

>> No.5066825

>>5066812
says the playstation fetishist. Playstation was never part of gaming you clown. Sony will never understand what gaming is. Playstation was the beginning of the downfall of console gaming.

>> No.5066838

>>5066818
>Everything about it is shit, from the controller to console design itself

Yeah stopped reading there.

>> No.5068717

>>5054415
This was the problem with WWF Royal Rumble (basically SmackDown 1 with buffed graphics). THQ/Yuke's could have added more wrestlers and a CAW option, but they apparently don't want to compete with their own game on a competitor's platform.

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5070579

>>5066825

>> No.5070595

>>5066818
Playstations tend to have a slow start and the good shit comes pouring in mid to late life span, but saying PS2 had bad controller design and console design is simply laughable.

>> No.5071679

>>5066779
>18 year old console
>STILL NOT RETRO

Why is modern /vr/ such a place of faggotry.

>> No.5071687

>>5065342
>launch titles
Fucking retard.

>> No.5071696

>>5071679
>Why is modern /vr/ such a place of faggotry.
First week here? You'll get used to whatever you're complaining about.

>> No.5071710

>>5071696
First week here? Pretending to be too retarded to realize that retro has nothing to do with amount of years that have passed and that PS2 will never be included is Senior Level trolling,

>> No.5073441

>>5054415
It failed without question due to high rates of piracy and failing third party support.

Also, the PS2 had a DVD drive and stronger 3rd party support.

>>5054524
I bought it for thirty bucks when it came out.

>> No.5074345

>>5070595
Yeah, if you can't fault Sony for something it's their industrial design. They're one of the few electronics companies that even bother. The engineering is a different thing, but their shit is usually very ergonomic and easy on the eyes.

>> No.5074379

>>5071710
But that's wrong, it will be added the instant the 9th generation of consoles comes out.

>> No.5074379,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5058375
Nice cherrypick, but that game still has better particle effects than any single Dreamcast game.