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5034853 No.5034853 [Reply] [Original]

are these any good?

>> No.5034882

Pseudo is a pretty good mod but it's not hard to make yourself you just need to be able to burn a CD and successfully do a swap-trick boot one (1) time

>> No.5034957

>>5034882
the price for these customs is the same as an AR cart and according to the ebay listing these are "more reliable" than the flashed ARs

>> No.5035851

>>5034957
The 29 dollar one doesn't act as a ram cartridge so you're either gonna pay extra or give up some good games like Dungeons & Dragons Collection, Vampire Savior, X-Men vs Street Fighter and a bunch of SNK fighters

>> No.5035869

>>5034957
Really? They cost a buck?

>>5034853
Ideal if you can't mod your system or flash an old card.

>> No.5035871

>>5034853
Does the switch mean no glitches on the 1 meg games?

>> No.5037467

>>5034882
But to do the swap trick you need to take apart the Saturn to block the sensors. You might as well install a mod chip (which is a super easy solder job).

I say this as someone who did the above and realized I should've just bought a cart already flashed or got the mod chip

>> No.5037701

>>5037467
By that logic instead of a mod chip, you might as well just install a Rhea since apparently all these things cost the same - "a buck"

>> No.5038134

>>5035871
Yes.

>> No.5038135

It remains to be seen how reliable they are but having both pseudo Saturn and a working memory card is great.

>> No.5038243

>>5037701
>simple decades old parts cost the same as new complex hardware
Cool logic kid

>> No.5039982

>>5034853
I bet they ruin your cartridge port. Just like all 3rd party carts do.

>> No.5040004

>>5039982
There is literally no reason to ever remove the cart ever again after you insert it so I don't see how it can.

>> No.5040171

>>5034853
I did one with a cheap chinese knock-off action replay with a random sticker on it.
It was £13. I was expecting it not to work.
But it did.

Only thing now with it, is getting the cart to boot up right. Not because the flashing went wrong or the cart is faulty. It's just what Sega Saturns are like with RAM carts. A pain.

>> No.5040206

>>5034882
Problem is, once you take it apart to do the swap trick, you can already play backups. So the card it a waste of money and has less compatibility than the modchip anyway.

Also almost none of the 4mb games are worth it, not in this day and age when you can play the superior arcade versions easier.

>>5037701
>5 minute solder job costs the same as a $1000 sd loader

nice logic.

>> No.5040260

>>5037701
When I bought my action replay for my pseudo Saturn cart last year, the cheapest they came was like $32.

The Saturn mod chip is like $40 and you can get a soldering iron from harbor freight for $8 with solder if you don't already have one. So it's a bit more expensive but not much and worth it imo because you can still use your ram cart/save cart

>> No.5040264

>>5040260
But the one that OP listed is an all in one that acts as a regular PS cart would, has the ram capablities, AND has 8 megs of storage space for saving your games like you would on a save cart.

>> No.5040270

>>5040264
My mistake, the one listed by OP does not have the saving function, but the seller has another cart that does all the things I listed. I bought one and shipping took a little less than a week. I use it on my non-modded Saturn that acts as a backup for my modded one and it has given me no issues.

>> No.5040271

>>5040264
oh really? that's awesome

>> No.5040304

>>5040004
>there is literally no reason to ever
>back up your saves
>play games with ROMs
>netplay
>dump/debug
wew lad

>> No.5040319

I've given up on being facetious in this thread so I'm just going to spell it out, in order

>eBay Pseudo with no other functions: $29
>Real Pro Action Replay with 4m RAM and backup: $32
>Phantom modchip: $40*
>eBay Pseudo with 1m+4m RAM: $42
>eBay Pseudo with 1+4m RAM and memory card: $52
>Rhea ODE: $150

So hopefully you can see that as I said to begin with there's basically no reason to buy a modchip any more. All these eBay Pseudos are just presumably regular PAR4M+ that have been modded using established methods so you have the option to either do the labor yourself or buy it predone. I would be curious if the $29 option still functions as a 4m ram cart, now that I really think about it so if anybody buys one please report back about it

*to the /v/ style unsubstantiated masturbator: Saturn modchips are not just single eproms like PS1 modchips you fucking dumbshit.

>> No.5040325

>>5040319
Bit grumpy there gramps, isn't it time to take your metamucil?

>> No.5040412

>>5040319
damn, i've been owned.

>> No.5040419

>>5040325
I had a Natty Daddy with dinner my stool will be plenty loose but thanks for your concern

>> No.5041086

>>5040319
>here's some ebay prices
kek

>not just single eproms like PS1 modchips
O.M.G. They're exactly same kind of not-eprom as a PS1 modchip and some extra logic. Fuck me you're stupid.

>> No.5041231

>>5041086
>They're exactly same kind of not-eprom as a PS1 modchip and some extra logic
aren't saturn-chips attached between board and disc-drive?

>> No.5041239

>>5040206
>nice logic.
kids these days cannot solder; they'd willingly pay 1000s of daddy's moneys for someone else to do it

>> No.5041459
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5041459

>>5041231
Yes. This is a (relatively simple) example of a Saturn modchip. Not something anyone's going to manufacture themselves for a buck. Jackoffs like him are becoming my number one irritation on /vr/. All they do is muddy the waters, contributing nothing even if they did know something that might be useful to the discussion - which they don't.

>> No.5042181

>>5041231
Yes. The MCU, which is often a PIC like most PS1 mid chips, is wired between the main board the the drive board. As you can see in this pic >>5041459 All the chips are cheap off the shelf parts. Literally pennies each.

>>5041459
>people who know more about something than i can learn from google in a few minutes really piss me off
I know we do. And it gives me pleasure.

>> No.5042717

>>5042181
>All the chips are cheap off the shelf parts. Literally pennies each.
good luck getting the 20- and 21-pin connectors though.
rather spend 15 quids on the phantom.

>> No.5042724

>>5042717
This, plus the PCB itself I doubt a breadboard would fit in the case although I suppose the jerkoff would just wire it all up with a bundle of wires - and I'm sure he's implying he would solder the ribbon cable as well since he has superhuman soldering skills and his time is worth nothing. Jerkoff is a jerkoff.

>> No.5042867

>>5042717
Connectors are only hard to find for amateurs who go on ebay searching for "saturn drive conenctors". But as you point out It's not worth the effort considering you can get well designed/built ones for $15.

>>5042724
Stay mad and ignorant fake gramps It's entertaining.

>> No.5043095

>>5040304
>>back up your saves
the $54 version of this cart already does that
>>play games with ROMs
boofucking hoo, i cant play a port of kof 95

>> No.5043114

>>5042867
>you can get well designed/built ones for $15.
bullshit

>> No.5044416

>>5043114
Bad_Ad84 (co-maker of the phantom) sells them for £15+shipping, so $20.
if you're in the us, Zer0-2k11 is the other one who made the chip, but I don't know if and where it's sold

>> No.5044509

>>5043114
>ebay is the only place in the world you can buy things
lel

>> No.5045448

>>5044416
I see, well that's good info but with 4gbp for international shipping final cost is $25. That does come out cheaper than one of those HK Pseudos on eBay assuming that they lack the 4m RAM feature

>> No.5045487

>>5045448
You're not including the cost of your time to unpack the thing, plug it in, the increase in your electric bill, etc. The actual cost is pretty to close to that $>9000 you originally claimed.

>> No.5045660

>>5045487
Well, the average person will spend at least half an hour more installing a Phantom chip than plugging a Pseudo in and probably considers their time to be worth $8/hr or more.

>> No.5046128

>>5045660
$15 is the "living wage" and the "average person" can't change the batteries in their remote let alone install a mod chip. All irrelevant to you being wrong about a mod chip costing $1M and a pseudo costing a buck. See what I did there, kiddo?

>> No.5047325

OP here, I received the custom cart and it works flawlessly so far, got it from ebay and the shipping took only 3 days from hong kong to canada, I can recommend this.

>> No.5047336

>>5047325
Did you buy the $29 one? Have you tested it with RAM games?

>> No.5047381

>>5047336
I got this one, with the switch on it. I tested both the 1m and 4m modes with no issues so far. Are there any games that are more picky about the expansion slot I should test?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sega-Pseudo-Saturn-with-4M-Extension-RAM-Cartriage-Console-Game-Japan-Casing/153170722152?hash=item23a9afbd68:g:nbwAAOSwhIZbAvPt

>> No.5048841

I bought the deluxe 1mb/4mb/back up save one last week. The dude shipped from Hong Kong to NYC in 7 days which was pretty surprising. The thing works like a charm so far. PseduoSaturn self test indicates that the 1MB/4MB switch works as intended and games (that supported direct-to-cart saving) are properly detecting the cart as a save cart. Shame the dude is apparently out of the black shells but the red one doesn't look terrible with a black saturn at least.

>> No.5049491

>>5048841
I think the red one looks nice with my white Saturn but I am concerned about the colour fading over time as it does seem to be made out of shitty plastic. It seems otherwise well built but I doubt the plastic will be the same colour in a year or two

>> No.5049503

>>5035851

but none of those games are good

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>>5049503

>> No.5049684

Whatever you do, DO NOT keep plugging third party carts in and removing them from the cartridge port. It will absolutely fuck your port and there is no easy fix. I thought this was a meme at first from hearing about it for years but now two of my saturns won't read my pseudo saturn cart.

>> No.5049783

>>5049684
It it a bit of a meme though. Half the time these supposed "fucked ports" are actually still working but the cart is shoved too far in. Try moving the cart up EVER SO SLIGHTLY. Often the Saturn will be able to read it then.

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5050036

>>5034853
I just placed an order for one of these. I'm excited as hell to use my old Saturn again. Wish me luck boys.

>> No.5052191

>>5047381
kof 95

>> No.5052435

>>5047381
I got the one that comes with 8mb for savegames as well as the 1mb/4mb expansion

>> No.5052586

>>5040260
they are way cheaper on assemblergames kiddo

>> No.5052783

>>5052586
Fuck you. We've already had more than enough shitposting underage faggots invade the place the last couple summers. And you want more? Ones who are dumb and poor on top of that? You must really hate the place.

>> No.5052809

>>5049783
I hotswapped an ST-Key and an OEM 4m RAM cart for years to play XvSF until I got the PAR4m+

>> No.5053406

>>5052809
i'm sorry

>> No.5053663

Has anyone else had trouble launching PD Saga with one of these?

>> No.5053850

>>5052809
>i was super poor for years

>> No.5053856

>>5053850
It didn't exist, dumbshit

>> No.5053990

>>5053663
you have to get a patched version of the rom and burn on nice discs, like taiyo yudens

>> No.5054130

>>5053856
>i was ignorant for years
Fixed

>> No.5054417

>>5053663
i have a pseudo saturn kai cart i flashed myself and PD Saga runs fine with the 50 for $5 CD-R's I got from Newegg.

I used the Dark Water rip from the-eye.eu and burned w/ image burn on max speed.

>> No.5054853

>>5052783
good thing the registration has been broken for half a year

>> No.5055620

>>5054853
Has it? Excellent news. Hopefully that will limit the damage and the /v/ tier shitposters will eventually tire of getting no likes and go away.

>> No.5055854
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5055854

>>5049503

I know of one port with improved features. Pic related.

>> No.5056563

>>5055620
>Has it?
https://assemblergames.com/threads/registration-emails-not-working.69858