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Fuck doom!

Let's have a thread of the best classic FPS.

Discuss all things about Duke nukem here!

The games,the easter eggs,the ports.

Everything.

Except DNF.

>> No.501376

>kicking with both feet at once

>> No.501418

I hate Duke as a character.
His bromentality.
His exposed masculinity.
His narcissism.
His internal rotteness.
His dull one-liners.
This outstanding lack of depth.

Caleb was a whole universe better.

>> No.501412

>>501376
Oh man,I laughed my ass off when I saw that the first time.

>> No.501421

>>501418
2edgy4u?

>> No.501437

I fucking love the Devastator. Probably one of my favorite FPS weapons ever.

>> No.501439

>>501418
He was a parody of all that. That's the joke.

>> No.501441

>>501418
That was the point, he's a mockery of action heroes.

>> No.501458

>>501418

I hate Space Balls. It's just a generic sci-fi flick with half of its ideas lifted from Star Wars. The establishing shot drags on way too long, the characters are flat and stereotypical, and the villain's plot makes no sense.

>> No.501475

>>501421
No. I just hate guys like him IRL. So I don't like him, too.
If out of Build Engine games, I'd choose Blood, because it wsa a fair hard game to play through, where after beating the first episode you went from a mindless ketchupfest to a "tactical dynamite dispensation". And its' main character was a cynical darknessful madman, not just an asshole.

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>>501376

Good old 1.3d

>> No.501498

>>501475
You were bullied in school by guys like Duke huh?

I see...

>> No.501502

Duke 3d is up to 75% homage to Doom

>> No.501507

>>501458
Not that guy but I've never been a big fan of Space Balls it's humor hasn't aged nearly as well as Young Frankenstein or Blazing Saddles or even High Anxiety.

It has it's funny moments, though. That very meta scene where the villains watch the tape of Space Balls to find where the heroes are is priceless.

>> No.501518

Old Build games really were great, but most especially Duke3D and Blood. I loved how inventive the arsenal of weapons you had were; even if some were sort of gimmicky they fit so well with the self parodying atmosphere of the games, (except Blood, which was more serious I think, but not less awesome for it anyway). Best episode was L.A. Meltdown imo, though maybe that has something to do with being 12 or 13 when I played it and the blue movie theatre and strip club (I actually still like it the best anyway even after the soft pixel porn novelty wore off).

>> No.501521

>>501418
>>501475
You realize Duke is a joke right?

>> No.501524

>>501507

I think Blazing Saddles is the best thing he's done; I was just making a joke.

>> No.501532

>>501502

Like every shooter up until 2001.

>> No.501571

Only femenazis and and emasculated faggets dislike duke nukem, that shit was the most hilarious shit when it dropped in 1996. What you faggets don't even realize is uke nukem is a hero and not your typical jock asshole so as goofy as he is hes still a good guy at heart. Fuck you haters >>501418 too stupid to realize its a joke, yet thinks hes too intelligent to watch an action movie

>> No.501597

>>501571
I agree with you.

But your horrible orthography makes your points difficult to understand.

>> No.501591

Been having a blast wit the expansion packs, got the Megaton Edition a week ago.

Duke it out in DC is tough as fuck, and Nuclear Winter is hilarious

>> No.501592

>>501475
>cynical darknessful madman
Are you 14

On topic. Did anyone really like the spin-offs? The PSX and N64 games where pretty good fun Manhattan Project was brilliant imo, but every one I know hates them

>> No.501602

>>501475

I don't like macho wise cracking narcissists either, but as others have said it's just supposed to be a parody of b-movie sex and violence bullshit.. It would be like not enjoying Redneck Rampage because you don't like retarded rednecks in real life. They're just not characters presented in a serious way to have a serious reaction to. Having said that I actually didn't enjoy RR for various reasons, easily the weakest of the Build games imo.

>> No.501617

>>501602
ding ding ding ding

>> No.501627

Fuck off DJ Orwell.
Sage for off-topic.

>> No.501631

>>501627
lel

>> No.501667

a

>> No.501669

Although I know all the little tactics to beat them now, weirdly enough the hardest boss for me was always the first. Probably something to do with his mega chain gun thing that you couldn't really dodge iirc.

>> No.501675

>>501592
ive only heard good things about manhattan from duke fans. Only faggots hate on it to be cool. I have it myself and I enjoy it too

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501679

>>501358
>Fuck doom!
No need to be so childish, both games are Doom is way better.

>> No.501685

>>501675

Manhattan Project is decent. Not my favorite Duke game, but solid.

>> No.501718

>>501669

yeah, that motherfucker would start chasing you real fast...

>> No.501887

Bump

>> No.501917
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501917

>>501679
But you can't jump in Doom, said lo wang!

>> No.501945

>>501917
>WHO WANT-A SOME WANG?

I'm so sorry

>> No.501976
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501976

I mapped for Douk during its heydey and still do occasionally, although a lot less frequently in recent years. I really love 2.5D engines.

>> No.502010

bump

>> No.502019

Does anyone still play Duke3d on YANG? because I'm always up for some co-op or deathmatch action

>> No.502034

What source port do you use for multiplayer? I used to play without problems with an old version of jonof's port, but I lost it and now I can't get this new "eduke32" thing to work online.

>> No.502151

>>502019
I'm interested but what version do you use?

>> No.502191

>>501418
You were just bullied hard.

>> No.502204

>>502034
>>502151

Uploaded this the other day, please tell me it works fine.

http://www.multiupload.nl/IX2OUKDKYF

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505539

>>501679

>> No.505731

>>501571
The next time you state opinions about and defend things I like against morons please dont murder an entire language to do it.

>> No.505741

>that first level
>that choice between entering through the back door like a bitch or Duke-ing your way through the front entrance with a rocket launcher

So glorious

>> No.505756

But Duke is hilarious, and fucking cool while being hilarious. He's so over the top, there aren't anyone like him IRL.

>> No.505779
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505779

IGSRJ's reviews of the first 3 duke nukem games are pretty funny

Duke Nukem 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdTMCHmMfSs

Duke Nukem 3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGcs_9Ig9Pk

both very funny

>> No.505974

>>501679

The game with less gameplay options and worse level design?

>> No.506108

>>501376
You know,
there's actually several martial arts kicks
that are done with both feet.

The most well known being the dropkick.

>> No.506164

>>505974
Duke's level design completely falls apart after the shareware episode and somewhere, deep in your heart, you know it.

>> No.506214

>>506108

The key word in dropkicking being the drop, since you fall when you do it. Weird thing about humans: They can't float around with both feet in the air indefinitely. Duke has that ability. It only makes it more amazing, though.

>>501669

Yeah, you can dodge most of the shots from the 2nd and 3rd bosses, but the you can't dodge the chaingun on the first boss. Gotta have that medkit handy.

The hardest bosses in the series were in Time to Kill, I think. Probably because duke handled like a chocolate covered slug. It was still a fun game, though.

>> No.506220

>>506108
>martial arts
>dropkick
lol

>> No.506231

>>506220

There are multiple types of "traditional" martial arts that have dropkicks incorporated into them. They're obviously not practical, but then again most martial arts aren't practical. Only a few really are.

Polite sage for off topic.

>> No.506319

>>506231
>most martial arts aren't practical
You don't know shit about martial arts.

A dropkick is practical against an unaware opponent.
You gain huge momentum when you charge and dropkick.

You obviously should know how to properly fall though.

>> No.507491

>>506164
What are you talking about? Shrapnel City has some of the best level designs in the whole game

>> No.507496

>>505974
That entire point is moot when you look at Doom's modding community.

>> No.507504

>>507496
http://fissile.duke4.net/index.html

Don't mind me, being what DNF should have been.

>> No.507538

Does Hexen count?

>> No.507558

I think the brilliance of duke3d's level design cannot be stressed enough. How many fps games have levels that serve perfectly both as single player and multiplayer?

Also some of the TC's were great. Platoon multiplayer was gorgeous.

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>>507496
>>505974
>>501679
>>501358
>Fuck Doom because nurrrr
>Doom is better because nurrrr
>Doom is worse because nurrrr
>Doom has source ports so nurrrr

Can we just agree shooting dudes are fun and stick to our respective threads?

>> No.508056

>>508040
I'm totally fine, DOOM being the hip thing here only enhances Duke3D's value. Posts like >>506164 are pants on head retarded and downright intolerable.

>> No.508074

Quake>DOOM>Duke>every other FPS

>> No.508084

isn't there a "duke nukem forever" fan thing coming soon?

>> No.508093
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508093

Fuck Duke Nukem 3D, Duke Screw'em 38D is the new deal.

>> No.508127 [DELETED] 

I think Doom is equal to Douk

>> No.508139

I think Doom is equal to Duke 3D

>> No.508186

>>508093
Where can I find this?

>> No.508220

>>508186
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/11/30/3371772/duke_screwem_38d.7z

You will need DOSBox to run it.

>> No.508252

>>508093
Damnit Rob Liefeld.

>> No.508482

<spoilers> doomkart</spoilers>

>> No.508497

>>508482
No, DoomKart is just a clunky mess that only got famous thanks to Shitaku, go away.

>> No.508517

>>501945
>FORTUNE COOKIE WRONG. MAN WITH 4 BALLS CANNOT WALK.

<spoiler>I'm not sorry.</spoiler>

>> No.509967

>>501418
90edgy89me

>> No.510449

>>506164
maybe it becomes worse than the shareware episode but you can't compare it to DOOM. It's so much better, because the Build engine allows for more effects and level shapes, moving sectors, etc.

>> No.510456

>>507558
many of the levels actually change when you play them multiplayer!! (Opening new areas and such) And they change differently when played coop or dukematch.

>> No.510464

>>510449
Always wanted to learn how to use Build, but Mapster looks confusing as hell. Although a lot of Duke mappers claim its easier than building Doom maps.

I use Doom Builder 2, but I used to use DEU back in the day and I even find that easier.

>> No.510465

I've never played DN3D, is the version on Steam any good, or should I just use DOSBox or a sourceport?

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>>501418

>> No.510475

>>510465
steam version uses a shit sourceport

>> No.510481

>>510465
The Steam version is good if you don't mind playing mods.

Go away EDuke32 fanboys

>> No.510483

>>510464
I've only used the original editor that came with the game, and it was so easy to make levels (you walked around the level in the actual engine in real time)

>> No.510494

>>510465
there are good source ports (eduke32 and jfduke3d) but the latest versions are a bit buggy.

>> No.510489

>>510483
I'm the only one who thinks that BUILD is a fucking mess of a editor?

>> No.510504

>>510481
>fanboys
It's not fanboyism, it's the fact that a source port is better than DOSBox in every situation. Every one.

Polite sage for offtopic.

>> No.510512

>>510504
I was talking about the Steam port, not the DOS version.

>> No.510520

>>510489
It was a mess, but it was still very easy to learn. Anyone could do it.

>> No.510543

>>510512
I haven't played the new one, but doesn't it just use a dos wrapper like every single other retro game on steam or GoG?

If not, I may have to check it out for everything not mod related.

>> No.510552

>>510543
It's an actual port, not a lazy re-release like Doom on Steam or a crappy port like the one included on the BFG Edition.

>> No.510579

>>510552
doom on steam re-release? what the fuck are you talking about glue sniffer

>> No.510590

>>507504
Speaking of Douk Plus, has anyone here played a mod named Duke Nukem Eternity?

>> No.510608

>>510579
Dooms on Steam, but its just wrapped in DOSBox.

>> No.510614

>>510590
No, because my PC is crap, but it looks pretty damn good.

>> No.510638

>>510608
sorry yeah hahah its unchanged I was confused for a second. Im the glue sniffer thinking re-release meant it was updated or something.

I have it on steam and thats how I wanted it man, why the hell would I want shitty updates when I only wanted to wad files anyway? Who actually plays it on steam though?

>> No.510670

>>510638
They honestly know better than to update it due to the mod community. They can't do anything a source port can do these days and they know it.

Most they've done for DOOM is package it with D3 and their own WAD.

>> No.510674

>>510614
Speaking of requirements:

http://www.moddb.com/games/duke-theft-auto

I have a close friend with a pretty good rig and even then the game always lagged. Does anybody want to give this a try?

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>>510465
>I've never played DN3D

>> No.510715

>>510614
Try playing it with Polymer disabled.
Worked pretty well for me.

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510725

Has anyone played Operation Body count?
It's a Wolf3D clone where you shoot terrorists on the UN HQ or some shit.

>> No.510718

>>510465
As far as I know.. the steam one has all the expansions, so it has a bit more content than gog's

Go with that one

>> No.510792

Bill Shat's TekWars is the best game ever.

>> No.510842
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510842

I've never played Duke
Just bought it on Steam because I got a coupon for it

Also, are any of the console Dukes good?

>> No.510860

>>510842
the n64 one is fun imo its a shadow of the PC version but the different weapons and multiplayer almost make up for it

>> No.510935

>>508220
holy shit this is terrifying

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>>508093
Everybody's guns shaped like phalluses

>> No.511000

>>510842
Duke 64 is actually good besides the censorship.

The PS1 has an exclusive episode called Plug n Pray, but that port has a lot of framerate issues, so i don't know if i can recommend it.

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515118

N64 port, aside from the toned-down visuals, was actually a rather faithful port gameplay-wise.
People always say they liked the Devastator best, but I actually prefer the RPG. Big damage in a single shot, not to mention the ammo is much more abundant.

>> No.515962

>>515118
wise words about the RPG. Devastator ammo would run out very quickly. That's why I used to save it for the big fight.

>> No.515975

>>511000
And the noticeable lack of any music aside from the main menu.

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I made a classic style episode with other mappers

http://www.moddb.com/mods/metropolitan-mayhem/downloads/metropolitan-mayhem

as well as couple other maps

http://www.moddb.com/members/nesfag/addons/sin-center

http://www.moddb.com/members/nesfag/addons/galbadia

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>>508084
>duke nukem forever mod

I think the devs got cold feet once they realized what they had promised. They probably only had the bare minimum of levels ready to make the April 1st video, and when word got around they had to start pushing the release date forward. So it's really like DNF!

Here is the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqBJ7iX5a-o

>> No.516315

>>516307

The other project lead commented on YouTube a few hours ago, saying they are just putting some finishing touches on.

>> No.516326

>>516307
>>508084
I betatested it.

Basically it's a Duke3D episode with maps based on the 2001 DNF trailler. Nothing amazing, it's still a fan episode like others like the one I worked on >>516247 but it's pretty cool high quality maps and the references to DNF are cool. There are a couple of new enemies too.

It's 2hours long of play and it should be released this week.

>> No.516368

>>516326

Only two hours? That's a bit disappointing. I was hoping for a bit more meatier fan ep.

I actually played Metropolitan Mayhem when you posted a link in a Duke thread some time earlier (I'm guessing it was you because the post was pretty much the same). Really enjoyed it, good stuff. City levels have always been the high-point in Duke for me.

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>>510725
> Operation Body count
That sounds really familiar. Wasn't there some 2.5D game maker out there? Is that one of the games that was made with it? If it was I remember it pretty well. Title aside.

>> No.516449

A few points:

1. My dad introduced me to this game, with the parental settings on, of course. It was a fun step up from DOOM, since things like slopes and overlapping rooms could exist, as well as generally higher-quality sprites. I recently got the game and played through it again, the 4th mission and the Xmas pack. The game is clever and humorous.

2. I wish 3DRealms remembered Duke is supposed to be a parody of macho men instead of trying to play it straight in this oh-so-extreme decade. You could say they still tried but when Duke finishes playing his own game and two reanimated-corpse women ascend after fellating him it seems like it's forgotten the action-movie-parody roots.

3. I played Duke!Zone pack 2 way back in the day, which was just a big compilation of fanmade maps. Since then the CD got scratched and only recently have I been able to download an .iso for the original, unzip the levels and play it with my downloaded DN3D. Most levels are boring, but there's little messages about developers and old websites that give me a bit of nostalgia for the 90's. If you like I can give you guys a .zip of the files as well as a guide to the first 100 levels or so.

>> No.516450

>>510842
Duke 64 is fantastic. Duke Nukem Zero Hour is even better, except it has no coop single player.

>> No.520267

one more bump before 404

>> No.521312

>>516368
It's "only" 2 hours but compared to Metropolitan Mayhem which was 1h30.

If you liked MM you'll like the DNF mod.

Thanks for the comments, be sure to try the 2 usermaps I've also posted as they've been made with some of the same mappers as MM, and they're city levels too.

>>516441
>>510725
I've played Operation Body count. At the time, as a kid, I liked it, but really for its time it's technically speaking below other FPS. The only impressive thing is that you can shoot the windows and look at a sky texture of cityscrappers. Past the sewer levels at the beginning it gets very repetitive too.