What's the worst official retro controller?

[Anonymous No.5008992]

My vote is either the Playstation pads (shitty D-pad) or the Dreamcast pad (shitty feel).

[Anonymous No.5009000]

I dislike the Play's d-pad as much as anyone else, but worst of ALL? Nah, look at shit like Atari 5200, Jaguar or Master System.

[Anonymous No.5009001]

Man, you haven't used many controllers if that's your worst.

[Anonymous No.5009003]

This piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5009015]

>>5009003
this is objectively the correct answer holy crap, and they are delicate, good luck fining a fully functioning one.

[Anonymous No.5009029]

>>5009003
I mean yeah it sucks, but it should get a pass because it's early tech. There was no excuse for PSX or DC pads having flaws.

[Anonymous No.5009034]

>>5009015
That's not even the worst part.

For those of you who haven't used it: You know how with every controller with a stick you've ever used, how the stick will return to the center after you let go? This controller doesn't do that. If you pull the stick in a direction and let go, the stick stays there until you push it back into the center.

[Anonymous No.5009036]

>>5008992
dunno one of these tv remote ones I guess
y'all niggas just tryna stir shit.
>ps
>worst
fuck outta here

[Anonymous No.5009042]

>>5009029
Fuck giving it a pass. It's not *that* early tech.

I dislike the original 2600 controllers more, though.

[Anonymous No.5009047]

>>5009036
sonygger detected

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5009051]

>>5009034
That's not accurate unless you have the rubber sleeve off or it's busted. The sleeve serves (poorly) as the recentering mechanism

>>5009015
I'm pretty lucky I guess that I have two decent ones and can play Space Dungeon but even on their best day the fire buttons are terrible.

[Anonymous No.5009053]

>>5009034
Huh? No, it does re-center, the re-centering just wears out incredibly fast. Maybe you've used an older one, but factory-new, those sticks did re-center.

[Anonymous No.5009067]

Why are people trying to push this meme so hard?

There were far worse retro controllers such as the Atari Jaguar controller. You can't seriously think a controller template that has survived three generations is "the worst" when Nintendo has had to reinvent the wheel every generation with another batch of forgettable gimmicks.

[Anonymous No.5009070]

>>5009047
Of course, and there it is.

No rebuttals or discussion - just /v/ermin tier console war name calling.

[Anonymous No.5009076]

>>5009047
fuck dude. caught me
>that famous sony vs coleco industries rivalry

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5009079]

>>5009067
Jaguar was ill-conceived front to back but its controller was okay

[Anonymous No.5009091]

>>5009079
>literally has a number pad built in so you can "do the math"

[Anonymous No.5009118]

>>5009079
Nah, it was pretty terrible. I never even minded the numpad, but the alignment of the action buttons was absurd. Try playing anything that requires you to hold C while pushing A (or vice versa). Rayman was absolute shit with that thing.

I should say that I've never used the one featured in that image you posted. I'm only familiar with the original 3-button version. Which sucked.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5009131]

>>5009118
Nonround buttons were a mistake

[Anonymous No.5009148]

I hate the atari stick

[Anonymous No.5009159]

>>5009003

/thread

OP is a gigantic baby that doesnt even know theres pre-NES consoles

[Anonymous No.5009169]

>>5009000
>Master System
Huh what's wrong with SMS pads? Sure, having the pause button on the console itself is dumb, but other than that, it's very similar to the NES pad.

[Anonymous No.5009172]

>>5009131
Any pads with diagonal button arrangements pointing the wrong way are mistakes.

[Anonymous No.5009175]

>>5009169
That d-pad.
At least it has rounder edges, like the Famicom, fuck the NES' angular edges.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5009181]

>>5009148
Don't like grasping a rubbery shaft?

[Anonymous No.5009189]

>>5009131
I thought the 6 button was never released

[Anonymous No.5009190]

>>5009181
I glued that shit to a wood table, like an arcade stick

[Anonymous No.5009212]

what makes the non-analog psx pad preferable to a ps2 pad for 2d games
is the d-pad better or something?

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5009485]

>>5009190
Pic related

>>5009189
Produced but not released, then sold off wholesale. You used to be able to buy a case of them for what a single one goes for now. Looks like they're getting the Earthbound treatment

[Anonymous No.5009514]

>>5009036
had this in beige, it wasn't too bad.

[Anonymous No.5009516]

>>5009514
what i mean is that i had the coleco adam and the controller was similar.

[Anonymous No.5009521]

>>5009181

Damn gramps, this is gold. Archive.org has the site archived. Where the hell did you find this?

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5009531]

>>5009521
Took me more Google-fu than I really care to admit lol

[Anonymous No.5009984]

>>5008992
the PS1's d-pad is still dramatically better than the DC's (which I'd say is as wildly inaccurate as the one on the 360), and apart from actually being oversensitive on diagonals (holy fuck there's nothing quite as dumb as tilting my hand a little bit up and getting a backwards jump when I should have still been blocking), it's not entirely terrible

and neither are as bad as >>5009003

>>5009485
man, I dunno if it was just my stick being stiff and shit from age or not (my 2600 was a hand-me-down from my brothers), but good fucking fuck I hated the Atari joystick
At least you could use a Genesis controller instead.

>>5009118
>Try playing anything that requires you to hold C while pushing A (or vice versa).
to be fair, that was an issue on the Genesis too, although most games generally tended to stick to two primary buttons with the third as a special weapon or whatever to avoid the issue
I know a few people hold the controller so their right hand has the three fingers on the buttons instead of their thumb.

[Anonymous No.5010012]

>>5009003
>>5009036
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[Anonymous No.5010024]

>>5010012
I'm gonna jump in and agree with this guy.

I actually own an intellivision and the controllers are by FAR the worst I have ever used.

[Anonymous No.5010058]

>>5009067
Apart from the face button design, the lack of gimmicks almost killed the gamecube controller (I think it didn't even had the Z button in pre release version), funny how popular it turned out thanks to that though.

[Anonymous No.5010074]

>>5009036
>>5009003
>>5010012
Why was this design so popular, it looks so awkward, anything with phone numbers just looks bulky now, like, if the gamecube controller with the keyboard was the default one and everyone else did the same.

[Anonymous No.5010690]

>>5009003
>you raff you ruse - the controller

[Anonymous No.5010703]

>>5009001
This, especially when a competitor of one of them had a much worse controller.

[Anonymous No.5010721]

>>5010703
Whose? Because both the Saturn and N64 had superior controllers.

[Anonymous No.5010837]

>>5010721
Saturn was not competing against anyone. That was DOA.

And lmao at thinking that POS controller for the n64 was any good.

[Anonymous No.5010869]

>>5010837
>Saturn was not competing against anyone. That was DOA.
In Japan it did fairly well, and sold more units than the N64. But aside from that, you're retarded for disregarding the Saturn over "it not being popular enough", as it has the greatest pad for 2D.

>And lmao at thinking that POS controller for the n64 was any good.
At least it has a real D-pad, and actually came with a proper analog stick, which took Sony over a year to copy off of, and even then most games still didn't have true analog gameplay. Also, the N64's grips feel better to hold than Sony's shitty pads.

[Anonymous No.5010871]

>>5010837
saturn might have been tertiary but it was still a 5th gen competitor. For fucks sake, people are posting the Jaguar ITT and you're going to talk about how the Saturn isn't relevant?

[Anonymous No.5010901]

>>5009212
The dpad on a PS1 controller has shorter travel, and more of a clicky responsiveness, so you get better feedback. The ps2 pad feels a lot mushier and you need to press it deeper, thus making it slower. I'm sure you could get used to either one, but I prefer the PS1 dpad.

[Anonymous No.5010904]

>>5010869
yeah I love the N64 controller though I can understand the hate it receives. I actually like dreamcast controller as well and the x-box one, playstation controllers can suck my dick though, they feel cheap and small, something's not quite right.

[Anonymous No.5010921]

>>5010904
xbox pads are god tier for 3d games

[Anonymous No.5011046]

>>5010869
Nintendos controller is a mess to hold.

Three grips? Come on now, there's no excuse for that, and it was bulkier than the original Xbox's controller which everyone mocked.

[Dillweed No.5011126]

>>5010024
Especially when trying to play Advanced D&D.

[Anonymous No.5011154]

Despite it being my favorite console, the Dreamcast controller is the least favorite of those I've tried. I absolutely love the PSX d-pad.

[Anonymous No.5011165]

>>5009003
>>5009079
Somewhere between these two.

[Anonymous No.5011583]

[Anonymous No.5011612]

>>5011583
>first controller to have analog triggers
>god tier analog stick due to using hall effect sensors
>decent grips, not as good as N64 but better than Playstation X
Only people who shit on it are those who never used it. And it's vastly superior to the DC's which for some reason Sega fucked up by ruining Saturn's stick, D-pad, and removing 2 buttons.

[Anonymous No.5011631]

>>5008992
PS controllers were the only good controllers back then. What are you drinking?

[Anonymous No.5011653]

Adjusting for era, Genesis. By then, Nintendo had figured out that having your right thumb's resting position cover two buttons was a good idea. That way, you can press Y with the tip of the thumb and B with the knuckle. Sega did not catch on, unless the intention was to do the three-finger-fuckathon for every game, which feels sucky. Also, no shoulder buttons either.

[Anonymous No.5011657]

>>5011631
>this is what sonyggers actually believe

[Anonymous No.5011689]

>>5009485
why wouldn't you just use arcade parts if you're already opening it up?

>>5011583
incorrect

[Anonymous No.5012423]

>>5011657
Another quality comment brought to you by /v/

[Anonymous No.5012520]

>>5010869
Yeah.....in Japan. It pretty much flopped everywhere else though. Nice try.

And yeah the Dpad is one of the few good things about the controller. Too bad that not too many games utilize it.

>>5010871
Yeah....in Japan. Nobody cared outside of Japan so it wasnt much of a competitor. Also why the fuck did you bring up the Jaguar, I never said anything about that because it wasn't a competitor overall like the PSX and the N64. What a stupid post.

[Anonymous No.5012586]

>>5011657
>cope

[Anonymous No.5012609]

>>5008992
>youtube made me post this
kids. lol

[Anonymous No.5012617]

>>5011631
not really, at least definitely not during retro times

[Anonymous No.5012754]

>>5009003
>BECAUSE IT FUCK-
>BECAUSE IT FUCK-
>BECAUSE IT FUCKING SUCKS!

[Anonymous No.5012759]

>>5009003
>>5009036
>>5010012

moshi moshi

[Anonymous No.5012760]

>>5012759
guranpuri desu

[Anonymous No.5012993]

Nobody ever has an opinion on pic related. How is it?

[Anonymous No.5013023]

>>5012993
Yeah, how does it compare to the avenue 6 or fighting commander?

[Anonymous No.5013420]

>>5012993
How many games support that thing?
I imagine Street Fighter 2 would, but I can't think of anything else.

[Anonymous No.5013552]

>>5011689
Its a fucking CD player case kitbashed the controller, as a kid I couldn't stand it. Yeah the buttons yada yada, it's such an awkward piece of shit to hold, I don't know anyone who got used to its awkwardness. It was an inexcusable piece of shit for a good console.

[Anonymous No.5013575]

i forgot how awesome the snes pad was

[Anonymous No.5013701]

>>5013420
Strip fighter.

[Anonymous No.5014028]

>>5013701
I forgot that existed.

[Anonymous No.5014439]

>>5009003
5200 is garbage.

>>5010012
I never had any problem with the Intellivision controller.

[Anonymous No.5014463]

>>5008992
Any joystick that doesn't have microswitches

[Anonymous No.5014623]

>>5008992
Nominating the 360 pad. They literally didn't care enough to make it usable even though the xbox live arcade games were practically all it was worth for a good chunk of its life.

[Anonymous No.5016689]

>>5009067
What's the third handle for?

[Anonymous No.5016697]

>>5016689
your ass

[Anonymous No.5016712]

>>5009067

It isn't a meme. This controller is objectively a piece of shit. I'm a collector of all kinds of shit, so I'm pretty unbiased as far as this board goes. When you need to bring up things like Atari Jaguar to compare yourself to, you know you fucked up. Button layout is shit, the analog is shit and gets loose after a week of use, the ergonomics are fucking awful, the dildo handle in the middle served absolutely no purpose whatsoever other than to worsen a fucked up piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5016728]

>>5016712
>This controller is objectively a piece of shit.

Try to grow a brain, lots of people consider it a great controller. They can't all be wrong.

>I'm a collector of all kinds of shit,

Oh look guys, a collector, he must be so knowledgeable.

>so I'm pretty unbiased as far as this board goes.

Logic is your friend, not your enemy.

>When you need to bring up things like Atari Jaguar to compare yourself to, you know you fucked up.

He brought it up to prove that objectively it's not the worst. It's called reductio ad absurdum. It doesn't mean he "had" to do it, it means it was the one that would prove you most wrong.

It's like if you said Final Fantasy 8 is one of the worst games of all time and I said "what about ET" and you said "hurrr when you have to compare yourself to ET you know it's a bad game".

[Anonymous No.5016806]

>>5016728

How about getting Nintendo's dick out your mouth.

[Anonymous No.5016821]

>>5016728
>lots of people consider it a great controller. They can't all be wrong
>Logic is your friend
Well, logically speaking, they could.

[Anonymous No.5019236]

SEGA pads > Nintendo pads > shit > Basedny pads

[Anonymous No.5019239]

SEGA pads > Nintendo pads > shit > Söyny pads

[Anonymous No.5019253]

>>5016712
The only point I agree with you on is that the stick gets loose with use, albeit gotta say even loose, the N64 sticks are still very precise, which is weird.
Don't really agree with the rest of the things you say, seem more subjective than actual flaws.

[Anonymous No.5019349]

>>5016712
>You can't seriously think a controller template that has survived three generations is "the worst" when Nintendo has had to reinvent the wheel every generation with another batch of forgettable gimmicks.

I was defending the PlayStation controller and saying the Nintendo equivalent was worse....

What did you think I meant when I mentioned a controller template that survived three generations?

>>5014623
And yet the 360 controller was the best of its generation and also isn't /vr/

[Anonymous No.5019356]

>>5009169
That fucking D-pad is what's wrong. First offense is being a goddamn square. Second offence is being spongier than a Speccy keyboard. You can literally feel the sponge underneath it. Easily the worst D-pad I've ever used. I'd take the freaking Steam controller over that thing for 2d games.

[Anonymous No.5020457]

ps1 dpad is pretty fucking great, what are you on about

[Anonymous No.5020632]

>>5020457
Nintoddlers gonna toddle

[Anonymous No.5020639]

>>5008992
How many posts until the Ata-
>>5009003
There we go.

[Anonymous No.5020641]

>>5009003
That's 2nd worst. It's actually not as bad as the Intelli-
>>5010012
Yeah.

... Yeah.

[Anonymous No.5020643]

>>5010012
How...

How does that even work?

[Anonymous No.5020645]

>>5010074
nigga what the fuck is that

[Anonymous No.5020646]

>>5008992
N64

[Anonymous No.5020647]

>>5010703
>>5010837
The N64 had an ACTUAL. FUCKING. STICK.

How can you argue that the PS1 controller was even USABLE for 3D games when there was no stick?

[Anonymous No.5020650]

>>5020647
My PSX controller had two :^)

[Anonymous No.5020656]

>>5009067
>PS1 controller template has survived 3 generations

lol no it hasn't

it doesn't even have sticks

it's literally the SNES controller without a d-pad, plus handlebars

the duel-stick template is based on the N64, which brought thumb-sticks to controllers, sony just added a second one and ditched the 6-face-button layout in favor of the old school baseball diamond formation

[Anonymous No.5020657]

>>5020650
That didn't exist until when? 1998? Later even?

[Anonymous No.5020661]

>>5020656
>the duel-stick template is based on the N64

It literally is not. Why are Nintoddlers so keen on retconning history?

Tell you what, hook me up with just one source which confirms that Sony got the dual stick template from Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.5020664]

>>5009051
>>5009053
Odd, Wikipedia says the joy stick does not re center

[Anonymous No.5020974]

>>5020647
Ape Escape had some pretty smooth analog control. But you're right, very few PSX games actually used the analog stick correctly.

[Anonymous No.5021245]

>>5008992
semi-related:
is it true that mortal kombat trilogy cannot be played with dualshocks on ps2?!

[Anonymous No.5021249]

>>5020657
the first analog controller (not counting the flight stick) was April 1997

[Anonymous No.5021312]

>>5008992
I like the dreamcast controller but after a few hours of playing with one the dpad feels like a razer blade against your hand.

[Anonymous No.5021553]

>>5021245
Many games made before the existence of the Dualshock or any sort of analog controller don't know what the fuck to do when presented with anything other than the original launch controller, so yeah, most likely.

[Anonymous No.5021701]

>>5021553
Even games made after had no clue what to do with it, just look at Quake 2. Dual analog layouts were a shitshow until the PS2 and games like MoH Frontline.

[Anonymous No.5022390]

>>5021701
PS1 Quake II has mouse support.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5022409]

>>5011689
You don't open it up, it's just a board with a hole in it an atari controller fits into

[Anonymous No.5022762]

>>5009079

I've never used a Jaguar controller before, but I imagine it'd be pretty comfy repurposed as a controller for WoW:

>Numbers bound to spells/items,
>shoulder buttons as camera control
>X, Y, Z as shift/alt/ctrl modifiers (meaning they can be combined with any other button for different actions)
>A, B, or C being the jump button

Obviously it wouldn't do the job as well as a mouse and keyboard (no 360 camera control, no dragging items or clicking on targets) but I can imagine it being comfy for solo grinding sessions.

[Anonymous No.5022851]

>>5021553
isn't it enough just to disable the analog-system?

[Anonymous No.5023168]

>>5012993
I mean, it works.

That's about all I can really give it, sometimes you need to make sure you haven't turned on turbo or the pad might not respond in 2 button game.

It seems alright for some games, but I played a few shooters and SCI on my PC Engine using it and it kinda hurt after a while, could just be bad button placement in those games though, something like Zipang or Bonk might be fine with it, and VN's would work perfectly fine too.

[Anonymous No.5023175]

>>5009003
>The fuck are all those numeric buttons for? Is this thing a phone? Is it for talking to intergalactic space aliens, flying fuckernauts or astro bastards?

[Anonymous No.5023228]

>>5016689
>>5009067
I'm getting really sick of this meme. The N64 was the first to have a modern thumb stick alongside a d-pad and there was no standard for how you designed them back then because dual-analog hadn't been created yet.

But even then, I don't fucking see what's so difficult to understand about its design. I knew what the three handles were for. Most people in 1996 knew what the three handles were for. It's only nowadays with babs raised on newer consoles that people look at it and get confused.

You hold the middle prong if you want to use the analog stick for 3D games and the left prong if you want to use the D-pad for 2D games. That's literally it. Oh, and some FPS games had an optional setup where you could use the D-pad and stick together like a dual-analog setup.

[Anonymous No.5023657]

>>5008992
YOU ARE ALL BUT WEAKLINGS

[Anonymous No.5023679]

>>5023657
I vaguely recognize this thing.
Isn't this that thing meant for little, little kids that worked with special Sesame Street VHS tapes?

[Anonymous No.5023684]

Did anyone ever try this thing? The D-pad just looked so stiff and wonkey.

[Anonymous No.5023804]

>>5023684
I had that. The pad is exactly as stiff and wonky as it looks.

[Anonymous No.5023874]

>>5023228
>triggered
wew lad

[Anonymous No.5023876]

>>5023874
You would be too if you had to put up with cuck e-celebs going
>TOP 10 WORST CONTROLLERS
>WOAH WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I GOTTA BE AN OCTOPUS TO HOLD IT LMAO

[Anonymous No.5024045]

Some of the early PC and especially earlier computer controllers/joysticks are atrocious. Pic related is obviously bad, but I doubt it's the worst.

[Anonymous No.5024057]

>>5008992
Probably the n64 pad, because it was purpose built to play 1 single game (mario 64).
That alone is a worse crime than any poor d-pad.

[Anonymous No.5024187]

>>5023228
>The N64 was the first to have a modern thumb stick alongside a d-pad and there was no standard for how you designed them back then because dual-analog hadn't been created yet.

Irrelevant, being the first to design it does not mean that it was well designed. An attempt was made - but it was not a good one.

>I don't fucking see what's so difficult to understand about its design. I knew what the three handles were for. Most people in 1996 knew what the three handles were for.

I know what the intent was, it's just that other controller manufacturers combined a D pad and thumbsticks much more ergonomically WITHOUT a giant useless peripheral in the middle.

It was a poorly designed affair all together.

>>5023876
And this is why you were bringing up irrelevant points which I never made in your previous post. You're desperate to argue against some strawman of a Youtube retro reviewer instead of actually following the conversation at hand.

[Anonymous No.5024204]

>>5024187
>Irrelevant, being the first to design it does not mean that it was well designed.
I didn't say that. What I did say was that it doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 worst controllers category, and it deserves a pass for being an experiment. I mean, come on. There are far worse controllers out there. It's not like it was uncomfortable, or had poor button placement, or broke easily.

>it's just that other controller manufacturers combined a D pad and thumbsticks much more ergonomically WITHOUT a giant useless peripheral in the middle.
You say that like Nintendo should've taken cues from similar controllers that didn't exist. There was no design standard at the time, and it wasn't unintuitive or uncomfortable, so how could you possibly call it poorly designed? That doesn't even make sense.

>You're desperate to argue against some strawman of a Youtube retro reviewer instead of actually following the conversation at hand.
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.5024246]

>>5023876
I don't "had to". Neither do you. The irony if you calling others cucks while being a little cuck bitch yourself is thick. Do you even have a father figure in your life? Not trying to go all /r9k/ on you here but you sound like you need some serious help.

[Bluushift No.5025150]

>>5023679
Yeah I found one in a closet at a community center but the tapes have all shit themselves

[Anonymous No.5025225]

>>>/wsg/2355745

[Anonymous No.5025243]

>>5025225
It's so bad.

[Anonymous No.5025263]

>>5023684

I used it to play FF7 on PC back in the day. I remember liking it more than using the keyboard which was awful. I had to use the number pad to control everything. If there was a way to change it, which there probably was, my 9 year old self couldn't figure it out.

[Anonymous No.5025660]

>>5010690
>>you raff you ruse
I don't get it, Atari was an American company.

[Anonymous No.5026008]

>>5010074
>Why was this design so popular
It looked really impressive compared to the single button Atari controllers had.

[Anonymous No.5026015]

>>5013701
Funny thing about Strip Fighter. The developers were forced to prostrate in front of Nintendo execs and personally apologize for an earlier (obviously unlicensed) Famicom game, but the NEC heads gave said devs a thank you letter for helping them reach older audiences.

[Anonymous No.5026217]

>>5011583
lol what kind of cookie is that?

[Anonymous No.5026237]

>>5008992
the psx controller is not only bad to hold and use but it is also sooooo ugly. Holy shit those colors and shapes are diiiisgusting. Abysmal design made for wannabie gamers

[Anonymous No.5026239]

The worst is probably the 5200's, but the worst I've played is the 64's. Jeez, you really can tell they hadn't figured out 3D controls yet, and IMO the 64 was only successful because of its games, not the controller or hardware.

[Anonymous No.5026535]

>>5026015
>The developers were forced to prostrate in front of Nintendo execs
lewd

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.5026543]

>>5025225
>>5025243
I could whoop ass at Tekken 2 while still having a free hand to smoke using The Glove, which I could not do using the ASCII Grip. The analog control is definitely a recipe for carpal tunnel though.

[Anonymous No.5027027]

>>5024204
Nice cope nimrod, keep arguing against some imaginary top ten YouTube reviewer or Cracked article about the five worst controller designs of all time that got you so butt hurt.

You're obviously too dumb to follow a normal conversation.

[Anonymous No.5027459]

>>5008992
Blame nintendo that had a trade mark on the d-pad so sony had to come up with the retarded design where they hide some of it under the plastic to avoid getting sued

[Anonymous No.5028296]

>>5020650
>haha Sega doesn’t have enough buttons on the Genesis controller
>nah the second version with 6 buttons doesn’t count that came out later

>the PS1 controller had sticks! two in fact! the original controller was an obvious prototype it doesn’t count! haha sucked in nintendo and sega

[Anonymous No.5029490]

>>5008992
ironically, someone won a Street Fighter 4 tournament at EVO using a original PS1 controller while everyone else was using $200 sticks.

[Anonymous No.5029493]

>>5029490
i don't see how, using shoulder buttons for fighting games feels so awkward

[Anonymous No.5029924]

>>5009003
This shit triggers PTSD.

[Anonymous No.5029934]

>>5011583
Not even the original controller, but point accepted.

[Anonymous No.5029943]

>>5011612
The Dreamcast controller's biggest issue was the retarded cord placement. I thought it was more comfortable than the N64's. The Playstation's dual shock analog was absolute perfection though. It is, in fact, a classic worthy of cheap Chinese PC controller knockoffs.

[Anonymous No.5032268]

>>5014623
I'm honestly surprised microsoft never fixed it, even today my 360 controller is as comfortable to hold as a modern controller can be and it doesn't feel like the plastic will break if I hit it like with a Dualshock. The Xbone d-pad is overrated and apparently the Elite disc is good but who the fuck is gonna pay that price for a decent d-pad. Everything was already perfect with the 360 controller why they didn't just put all their design-engineering-whatever money into making that disgustingly bad part good and make the perfect controller.

[Anonymous No.5032291]

>>5029493
The advantage though is that you have access to every single button at once. Arcade sticks are seriously overrated in a lot of ways, they were made to be durable, not comfortable.

[Anonymous No.5032638]

>>5028296
The difference being that the Genesis 3 button controller plays the vast majority of games perfectly (and in fact is more comfortable, with nice big buttons). Hardly any non fighting game would benefit at all from the extra buttons.

The Playstation has you moving around 3d spaces with 4 directional buttons. Nearly any game on the system would benefit from supporting dual analog.

[Anonymous No.5033197]

>>5008992
The dumbass CDI one handed controller.