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4998154 No.4998154 [Reply] [Original]

>segmented D-pad whose edges cause calluses
>sticks too close together, causing your thumbs to bump into each other
>4 shoulder buttons + 4 face buttons instead of 6 face buttons + 2 shoulder buttons
ITT: "What were they thinking?" - Retro hardware edition.

>> No.4998172 [DELETED] 
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4998172

Were you supposed to have three hands for this thing or what?

>> No.4998181

>>4998172
>huhuh 3 hands
original joke

>> No.4998241

>>4998172
> TFW contextual design
> TFW not all games needed all buttons
> TFW still a comfortable controller after all these years
But yeah, haha three hands.

>> No.4998250

>>4998172
Huh, I never realized that before - but you’re right! That thing has three handhold! Seriously WTF?

>> No.4998254 [DELETED] 

>>4998181
>>4998241
>>4998250
It was a shitty gimmick controller - but then again all Nintendo hardware after the SNES has been built on shitty gimmicks to sell their consistently under-powered consoles.

>> No.4998257

>>4998254
Wasn't N64 the most powerful and GC the second most powerful systems of their respective gens?

>> No.4998260

>>4998154
>segmented D-pad whose edges cause calluses
Bullshit.
>sticks too close together, causing your thumbs to bump into each other
Bullshit, unless you have really huge hands.
>4 shoulder buttons + 4 face buttons instead of 6 face buttons + 2 shoulder buttons
Dude, this isn't a Saturn controller, no matter how hard you try it.

>> No.4998270

>being unable to seamlessly adapt to any controller at a moment's notice
What's it like to be such sub-average people, /vr/?

>> No.4998271

>>4998154
>segmented D-pad whose edges cause calluses

Thankfully I was already old enough to have used my hands frequently before this (12), so my hands were fine. They're also a normal size for my body, so the thumbs didn't collide. I also got used to 4 face buttons when Nintendo released that other controller you hate.

>> No.4998284

>>4998271
>I also got used to 4 face buttons when Nintendo released that other controller you hate.
Admit it, Sega was smarter to go with 3/6 face buttons and no worthless Select button than 2/4 face buttons and a Select button.

>> No.4998359
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4998359

>>4998254

This, Nintendo has always had it backwards after the SNES.

>The priority of first party, primary controllers
Should be as simple, intuitive and natural as possible without cutting out core features. It should also require as little explanation as possible and ideally feel familiar to people who've played the previous generation's console.
>The priority of secondary optional controllers - first or third party
Basically anything else should be welcomed. This is where it makes sense to think outside the box or specialise to certain niches/functions.

Sony/Sega understood this back then, and Sony/Microsoft understand this today. The only reason Nintendo gets away with it is because their fan base follows the same herd mentality as Apple's. Just like Apple fans they will treat gimmicks as creative genius, and gladly pay extra for functionality that should have been offered in the original product (i.e apple's headphone adaptors, wii and switch's 'pro'/'classic' controllers).

>> No.4998370

>>4998257
Yeah, anon is just having his usual anti-nintendo fit, let him be.

>> No.4998374

>>4998257
Perhaps, but they were held back by their storage media. Carts and mini-DVDs were garbage.

>> No.4998381

>>4998254
>>4998359
Snowflake designs make emulation difficult. Nintendo knows what it's doing.

>> No.4998390

>>4998271
My hands are often soft enough that a stray beard hair can puncture them, and Rocket League with vibration on made my fingers puffy and itchy for several days, and I still never got calluses from PlayStation D-pads.

I like how I never tilt it the wrong direction by accident. It's a good design.

>> No.4998395

>>4998284
And yet, Nintendo is still in the hardware business.

>> No.4998398

>>4998374
8cm discs are kawaii and games are more fun than interactive movies.

>> No.4998401

>>4998359
>Should be as simple, intuitive and natural as possible without cutting out core features. It should also require as little explanation as possible and ideally feel familiar to people who've played the previous generation's console.
Uh, both the Gamecube and Switch primary controllers are really simple to understand. The N64 controller is blown out of proportion, and even Wiimotes are easy to "get" if you've ever used a TV remote. Sure the latter two are gimmicky, but they're not complicated.

>> No.4998403 [DELETED] 

>>4998359
In Apple's defense their walled garden approach to software development for the iPhone has created a much cleaner appstore versus Google's waste land of junk apps and viruses.

I agree with everything you've said about Nintendo though, honestly if you're buying their consoles after the SNES era you are simply not buying the best product on the market. Even SNES is debatable as the best purchase for the time because the Genesis was an excellent product.

>> No.4998405

>>4998359
Was this image made by a jobless teenager or adult NEET who can't just buy a game console on a whim?

>> No.4998413

>>4998395
Only because the DS and Wii saved them, neither of which people liked for their traditional pad design, but rather because of the touchscreen and waggle gimmicks.

>> No.4998419 [DELETED] 

>>4998359
The bottom right picture just looks like a guy recreating a childhood picture - it doesn't belong in there with those others.

>> No.4998437

>>4998154
>gamepad that birthed all modern gamepads
i bet you think the gamecube controller is good too

>> No.4998453

While I think the n64 controller and gc controller and wii and wii u and switch are all gimmicky, I applaud Nintendo for always doing something new, because Sony has rested on their laurels since 1996.

On topic tho, if the saturn had 2 shoulder buttons on each side and the 6 face buttons and the 3D model was standard instead of that small non analog controller it would be the GOAT controller of all time, bar none.

>> No.4998456

>>4998257
n64 performance was often lower than ps1 because of arbitrary software restrictions for devs though. gamecube was more powerful than ps2 in some areas but certainly not every one. the ps2 was harder to use well though, which adds to the perception of the gamecube's power.

>> No.4998460 [DELETED] 

>>4998453
>because Sony has rested on their laurels since 1996.

No need to reinvent the wheel every generation.

>> No.4998487

>>4998437
the form was comfy as fuck, i must admit

>> No.4998571

>>4998460
Same dpad for 4 gens is resting on their laurels. By now they should have axed the right analog stick and added 2 extra face buttons.

>> No.4998579

>>4998571
>getting rid of the right stick
what the fuck are you smoking
how would you control the camera in 3rd person games

>> No.4998619

>>4998579
There are no 5th Gen games that use the second stick save 1. You can fuck off back to /v/, you seem to be lost.

>> No.4998624

>>4998619
he was talking about present day ds4 design, you retarded rulefag

>> No.4998648

>>4998571
Fuck you, Vita d-pad was pure sex but no one bought the damn thing so no one knows about it.

>> No.4998658

>>4998624
He's not wrong though. Ps2 could have added it and nothing of substance would have changed. Even "dualshock" versions only fucking used the left stick. Unless you count ape escape and even that could have been done better with just one.

>> No.4998667

Is this bait? Regardless of what people think of the system, the psx's controller is by far the best of its generation. There's a reason it's design has mostly preserved across sony's future consoles

>> No.4998724

Sony products always seem cheap compared to Nintendo or even a lot of Microsoft ones, the controllers are emblematic of it.

>> No.4998881

>>4998381
>uses same hardware for 2 generations, making emulation easier than ever
There's still no good PS2 or Saturn emulation though so you have a point.

>> No.4999739

I'm surprised people are defending the dpad design. I guess if you only play 3D games you wouldn't notice but it hurts my thumb playing 2D games where I'm using it the whole time, especially fighting games.

>> No.4999805

>>4998257
>GC the second most powerful system
3rd, basically behind every relevant competitor.

>> No.4999821

>>4998881
Saying any of Nintendo, Sega, Sony, or Microsoft consoles used the same hardware for two generations is wrong.

Cube and Wii are the closest since Atari 20 years earlier. Even then the system was far superior in all regards because 2001 megahertz is not at all equivalent to 2006. That is like saying the Playstation 5 or X1-two will be using the same hardware because they switched to x86.

>> No.4999827

>>4998619
Which "one" game are you referring to? I can name a few so I would love to hear your cherry picked singular game.

>> No.4999830

>>4998437
The SNES birthed all modern pads. Every other console realized the stick location was shit except sony.

>> No.4999909

>>4999739
Except Evo 2014 SF4, at the absolute highest level of fighting games, was won using an original ps1 controller.

>> No.4999923

Those segmented Sony d-pads are the only ones with which I can do shoryuukens consistently.

>> No.4999932

>>4999739
this. playstation d-pads are terrible for fighting games. i'd even prefer using an xbone d-pad if it weren't positioned where it was.

>> No.4999962

>>4999909
Oh it controls fine; it's just painful

>> No.4999963

I like Hori's dpads