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4985205 No.4985205 [Reply] [Original]

Post video game that you consider overrated.

>> No.4985214
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4985214

I find no joy playing this at all.

>> No.4985217

>>4985214
T. 16 year old

>> No.4985234

>>4985205
>Sonic Adventure
>overrated
Most people don't think that highly of the game, OP.

>> No.4985236

>>4985234
A literal shit fuck ton of people from that generation would say otherwise. I always thought it was just fairly good.

>> No.4985243

>>4985205
SA is a monumentally underrated game, people are constantly shitting on it but conveniently forget that 3D games were still pretty fucking new when it came out and that Sonic was one of only a small handful of games that actually made a decent transition from 2D.

>> No.4985245
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This is game was pretty and all but damn I'd much rather play Garfield Caught in the Act then this shit

>> No.4985282

>>4985236
>A literal shit fuck ton of people from that generation would say otherwise
I am from that generation and I don't think that highly from the game, and I've found that most other people feel similarly when it gets brought up in conversation. It definitely has some good bits, but overall it suffers from some fundamental design flaws (e.g. different playstyles, pointless hubs, over-reliance on automation, etc.), some of which I imagine were a result of the initial project being combined with that "Sonic RPG" project that was being developed around the same time.

I usually see people consider it a 6/10, which really wouldn't be overrated.

>> No.4985323

>>4985282
So glad you think you're an entire generation of people and that no where in there could there be people who thought otherwise.
>>4985282

>> No.4985359
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4985359

Hello

>> No.4985383
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4985383

Can't have an overrated games thread without the OG overrated game.

>> No.4985421

>>4985383
I always felt like the controls where the only thing holding me back from those. Considering I really liked 3 forward.

>> No.4985447
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>> No.4985454

>>4985245
>Garfield Caught in the Act
I clicked on this thread specifically to mention that game! It comes up on all these top whatever lists and I don't get it
does it get good after halloween land or whatever?

>> No.4985458

>>4985359
The big 4 SNES RPGs are so overrated. Earthbound, FF3, Chrono Trigger, SMRPG.

>> No.4985519
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>>4985205
Reminder that words like overrated are buzzwords and as such if used without valid argumentation it goes into the /trash/

>> No.4985564
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4985564

yup, I went there.

It's a very unbalanced and incomplete game, not to mention kiddy.

>inb4 all games are kiddy.
>inb4 all Mario games are kiddy.
>inb4 kiddy isn't a bad thing.
>inb4 I don't see anything kiddy about it.

>> No.4985702

People who think EVO: Search for Eden is a "hidden gem" are fucking retarded and/or have never played it for more than an hour.

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Yawn, yet another /v/ bait trash thread.

>> No.4985748

>>4985702
Its okay not a hidden gem though

>> No.4985831
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>>4985748
hey guys metaljesus here and did someone say hidden gem by any chance

>> No.4985860

>>4985421
3s controls are way more fucked than the first games.
I love it but damn are they overly complicated with all those analog button presses.

>> No.4985869

>>4985702
It only takes a few hours to get to the late game as a 'human'.

The game did something not many others did, also had scrolling that was unique without using mode7. It undersold because it was an action platformer by an RPG company, so it is also rare. Perfect storm for a great game to be viewed as outstanding.

>> No.4985876

>>4985564
This. It's ok but ridiculously easy. You can get dozens of lives in the first world or two without even trying.

>> No.4985897

>>4985458
They're among the best jrpgs ever, they deserve the praise they get

>> No.4985908

>>4985869
I won't pretend to know why it sold poorly. What I do know, though, is that it's a great concept with abysmal execution, so a lack of commercial success isn't very surprising or in need of a contrived explanation.

>Perfect storm for a great game to be viewed as outstanding.
It's neither. The only element that could conceivably be called great is the evolution of your character (and the visual changes that go along with it), but this mechanic is *severely* bogged down by its complete reliance on dumb grinding and the consistently atrocious hitboxes, which make said grinding a chore. Then there are the insultingly simple levels (for the most part; the mazes were shit, too, but for different reasons) and the ease with which the evolution system could be exploited as a source for complete health refills... it's just a mess with a really good idea at its core.

>> No.4985932

>>4985564
I remember being shitted on for liking more 3 and 2 over this one.

>> No.4986678

>>4985205
DKC2

>> No.4986681

>>4985447
This. Quake is far better and the only reasons Doom is more popular are easier modding and memes.

>> No.4986684

Pretty much anything japanese. Their games are almost always incredibly rigid and without flexibility.

>> No.4986709

>>4986681

I think Doom is kind of overrated too desu. Hexen and Quake are both better.

>> No.4986718

>>4985458
this so hard. i doubt their fans are that well-versed in jrpg's too

>> No.4986729

>>4985359
100% agree

>>4986681
>the only reasons Doom is more popular are easier modding and memes.

Doom was bigger than quake ever was, even in 1996.

>> No.4986734

>>4985205
>>4985282
SA has such a mixed reaction because the game really is greater than the sum of its parts.
most mechanics in the game can rightfully be criticized as flawed, but the atmosphere of playing the game can leave a huge impression on somebody.
something about the music, the art direction, and the tone brings me to a magical place. the first time i ran around mystic ruins listening to the song with the indigenous people singing was pure bliss. twinkle park is so damn comfy too.

>> No.4986740

>>4986734

Most 3d sonic have tons of flaws but simply try stuff that other games don't, physics mainly.

>> No.4986745

>>4986740
the bird flying away as e-102 gamma explodes makes me feel like no other.

>> No.4986769

>>4986745

That scene goes well with My Body is a Cage by Arcade Fire

>> No.4986957
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>>4985234
>>4985205

Classic Sonic is charming and wholesome and looks much more like a little animal that can roll into a ball. NuSonic looks like a lanky smarmy tryhard that listens to Limp Bizkit and never shuts up with corny lingo that was outdated 20 years before he first spoke. Shadow is a cringey gun carrying edgelord who swears for no reason, has a human girlfriend who is murdered by the government, and only appeals to the cringiest sperglords alive. Metal meanwhile is just a cool robot. I miss the simple times when tiny animal mascots didn't talk and engage in retarded emo soap operas.

>> No.4986960
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>>4986740
3D sonic doesnt attempt physics that's the problem. Boost is all style and no substance, as made evident by: constant (and long) autopilot segments, hallway levels with zero freedom, speed that isn't earned, a low skill ceiling, minimal physics, and minimal points of interaction besides dodge left and right then occasionally mash homing attack. It's a shallow gotta-go-fast simulator while 2D sonic is a momentum-based platformer with pinball physics.

>> No.4986962
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>>4986734
Nah.

Funny how I only see people try and salvage these incredibly mediocre games when it comes to beloved characters. Take sonic away and replace him with a stick figure and the classics are still awesome. Adventure on the other hand would be forgotten shovelware. It is sad to see someone write 6 paragraphs about how a 5/10 games was not really that bad.

>> No.4986964

>>4986684
Compared to western movie games or open world yeah that's wide as the ocean deep as a puddle?

>> No.4986970

>>4986681
Honestly man I think it's just the name. Quake is a shitty name compared to DOOM.

>>4985421
>>4985383
Metal Gear (1st game) is a completely unique experience with completely unique gameplay, story, characters, and atmosphere. It's not overrated at all.

>> No.4986972

>>4985383
>>4985421
>>4985860
MGS1 is a perfect game.
People want to play games that are actually games. If board games all tried to become SJW movie simulators, people would be "nostalgic" for scrabble and monopoly.

AAA cunts don't understand that classics like Megaman, Castlevania, Sonic, Metroid, Zelda, and so on, are not "inferior relics of their time" but fun games with their own unique rules and mechanics that their modern "updates" completely lack.

Breath of the wild isn't an upgrade to LttP anymore than iPhones are upgrades to Yo-Yos and commercial jets are upgrades to surfboards. They're just completely different things and they stopped making the other things for no reason.

Imagine if manufacturers stopped making ovens toasters and grills the second the microwave came out, regardless of the market demand for those things. That's how fucking stupid mainstream video game publishers are.

MGS1 is not flawed for not being a 3rd person cover shooter you dumb faggots.

>> No.4986983

>>4986962
what
my point is that the game isnt objectively good but has a special je ne sais quoi that makes me and others hold it so fondly
i dont think you read very well....

>> No.4986992

>>4986972
How long did it take you type this garbage out? You rant about your opinion, the opinion you assume everyone else has, claim that yoyos and surfboards aren't made anymore. Then rant about modern devs and toasters, then finish off with something that probably proves in your mind that other people are wrong. Take this shit back to social media.

>> No.4987824

>>4986960

Eh, I think classic Sonic tends to suffer from a serious lack of momentum sometimes, especially 3&K, which is filled with stage gimmicks that practically force you to slow down.

>> No.4987851

Earthbound

>> No.4987867

>>4986992
i get the guy's point, and agree with it

>> No.4987887

>>4985214
this desu, 2d mario side scrollers > 3d mario freeland

>> No.4988215

>>4985214
Honestly, most of the platformers of that era I find difficult to replay. I remember being blown away by it when it first released, but things like the framerate issues and awkward controls, which were just a given in the era, are more noticicable coming off of a more modern game. Real shame.

>> No.4988225

>>4985236
Nah, if anything, now it's the game that's cool to hate just because some one else said to hate it. Maybe 10 years ago you had a couple 20 to 30 year olds stating how it was great, but now all I ever hear are people who shit talk the game for fuck ups that other "better" (according to them) games tend to do worse. It's the same shit with 2D sonic and the recent influx of people saying "It was never good"

>> No.4988240

>>4985383
/thread

>> No.4988246

>>4985217
Not the person you are replying to, but I'm 34 and I have never liked Mario 64. Its the only main line Mario game I couldnt get in to. Not everybody thinks its good.

>> No.4988271

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>> No.4988639

>>4985564
It feels so small compared to 3, the levels are unimaginative - grassy plains, woods, caverns, castles - and the easy, recycled boss fights are such a disappointment. It's still a reasonably fun game, but when people choose it over 3, it baffles me.

>> No.4988650

>>4988240
Got his ass
MGS is doodoo but i used to fuckin love it tho
probably still would i just played (watched it too much)

>> No.4989497

>>4985383
MGS is the only good one in that whole franchise.

>> No.4990810
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>>4986957
You are literally autistic.

>>4986962
Adventure is still fun to play actually. It came the closest as a non fan made game to being how 2d Sonic would play in a 3d environment. Also, Sonic and everyone else is cool in it.

>> No.4990813

Sonic Adventure is probably the most middle-rated game I can think of.

>> No.4990830

>>4985205
Been playing this game for the first time lately, the soundtrack is one of the worst I've ever heard and a lot of the action stages just feel like interactive cutscenes

>> No.4991159

>>4985245
SNES is the better game honestly. Only argument for the Genesis version I ever see is "dude Disney animators". I like both, but always felt SNES's gameplay was way better.

>> No.4991383

>>4985383
Agreed, this shit sucks.

>> No.4991397
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>>4985383
Wrong pic, son

>> No.4991454

>>4985243
3d games were not fucking even relatively new at the time

>> No.4991518
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>>4985205
I love the visuals, and visuals make 80% of any game for me, but the game is fucking boring.
Rather play Quake, Unreal, Deus Ex, Morrowind. All had better combat and a real (less-lazy) story unlike SystemShock2

>> No.4993197

>>4985205
I played sonic adventure for the first time on my dreamcast about 3 months ago. Its one of the only games in recent history that I have enjoyed aside from monster hunter, kingdom hearts and resident evil REmake. Sonic adventure 2 kinda sucks imo but the first one is almost a perfect game in the sense that it is flawed to the point where you can point out funny design flaws and where it went wrong but also the gameplay is actually fun and has some neat ideas. It has a lot of 90s stank and I appreciate it. A lot of people shit on this game or think that its overated but I think its just right

>> No.4993303

Every Genesis sonic, but especially 3. Not 3&K as a whole, just 3. 3 is a bad game.

>> No.4993318

>>4985205
>sanic adventure
Does anybody other than delusional sanic fanboys actually praise this game at all though? I see way more people crap on this game than praise it.

>> No.4993524

>>4985564
Not saying kiddy isn't a bad thing but what about a game being kiddy makes it bad? It is a game for kids, afterall.

>> No.4993649

>>4985236
I always say it's the best and most fun sonic game aside from sonic spinball. If you say it's overrated what are the 2d sonic games then?

>> No.4993751

I see Sonic Battle, Sonic 3D Blast & Spinball as the only good Sanic games. The rest of the series can go away.

>> No.4993775

>>4986972

Metal Gear Solid started us down the path that we're on now with all these shitty all cutscene no gameplay modern games

>> No.4993787

>>4985205
Everything Legend of Zelda related that isn't Zelda II.

>> No.4993814

>>4985205
Maybe at the time of its release but now everyone is shitting on it.

>> No.4993872
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4993872

Perfect Dark is a much better game than GoldenEye. GoldenEye is overrated as shit.

>> No.4993984
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>>4986734
I have a hard time explaining this to people, not to convince them to play it because I would never even try, but to explain why I like it. Maybe it's just perfect Sega aesthetic combined with extremely flawed but kinda fun unique gameplay.
Though the CGI cutscenes with humans and the hilariously bad facial expressions of the main cast I can't make a case for.

>> No.4993994

>>4993872
Like a typical PD baby, you only like it because it's newer. Goldeneye has better level design.

>> No.4994078

>>4993197
I agree with this

>> No.4994083

>>4988215
>sm64 has awkward controls
are you sure you aren't just bad?

>> No.4994118

>>4985876
It's easy because it's made for children, not manchildren.

>>4985564
Why doesn't it save 1-ups? And why does it spit out so many? Is one the reason for the other?

>> No.4994126

>>4993872
I like Perfect Dark's variety of weapons and inclusion of everything from GoldenEye's multiplayer, but doesn't it have more slowdown?

>> No.4994143

>>4985383
wut tho why? Famm Don't Do dis

>> No.4994354

>>4990810
>came closest

That means fucking nothing considering nothing has actually come close. Derp.

>> No.4994356

>>4987824
Sonic isn't about young fast you fucking idiot. It's about pinball physics.

>> No.4994357

>>4986992
I didn't claim Yo-Yos aren't made anymore. Work on your reading comprehension skills you fucking moron.

>> No.4994358

>>4986983
Yeah, nostalgia goggles.

>> No.4994430
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I actually don't know if this game in particular is overrated, but I do not care for anything David Cage has done. I'm guessing that, due to his latest "success," people will begin to look back on his earlier work.

>> No.4994584

>>4985359
>>4987851

this

>> No.4994608

>>4994430
This game is anything but overrated. It's mostly forgotten, and for good reason.

I'll fuck that soundtrack, though. Not just the Bowie stuff.

>> No.4994810
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>controls inferior and less responsive than X1-3
>horrible plot even as far as MM games go
>voice acting is equally terrible
>X's playthrough adds literally nothing new
>final stages are lackluster and feel rushed
>music is unmemorable save for a few tracks and has that crappy early-CDrom synth sound
>started a snowball of Zero fanwank with X practically being an afterthought

Why does everyone on /vr/ put this as their favorite again? Hell, I prefer X5 over this.

>> No.4994829

>>4985564
>kiddy
underage b&

>> No.4997020

>>4994810
Literally everything you said is wrong