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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4973250

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1528/27/1528276019025.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/









>> No.4977941

=== NEWS ===

[08-13] WIP release of Gorgos, a total conversion

[08-13] XUMP, a Hexen mapping project has officially started

[08-13] Half-Life: Echoes released, a mod about experiencing Black Mesa from another perspective

[08-12] Anon shares his mods, including a monster shuffler and voice-over support system

[08-10] Quakecon 2018 keynote reveals some Doom Eternal concept art and gameplay footage, as well as F2P release of Quake Champions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14lwVFY0KQ&t=5108s (Timestamped)

[08-09] MetaDoom V5 'Artifice' released

[08-01] Windows versions of Wing Commander 1 & 2 now moddable

[08-01] Nightdive releases a remaster of Forsaken

[08-01] Complete Clusterfuck updated

[08-01] HUMP Mini for Heretic released

[07-31] LegenDoom updates to 2.3

[07-31] GZDoom 3.5.0 Released

[07-31] 2018 Quake award winners announced

[07-29] Addons for Samsara

=== PREVIOUS ===


=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.4977950 [DELETED] 

doomfags need to be lynched

>> No.4977951

Blow it out your ass.

>> No.4977957

Wow, even the doom rpg is covered here! I had that on my flip phone back in the 00's! thanks, gonna put it on my android if I can!

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>> No.4977963

laser watch
pp7 silenced
d5k silenced
rocket or grenade launcher

>> No.4977964

kek have fun getting instabanned by the mods here

I played Doom RPG on android, it works like a charm and it's pretty damn fun. Wolfenstein RPG is also a lot of fun, I'm playing that right now. Play Doom RPG first though, it helps you learn the mechanics. Going straight to Wolf RPG would kinda suck I think.

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>> No.4977967

Just finished the Mill in TNT Evilution.
I'm enjoying this megawad but this map was terrible.
It drags on for so long and it's sou nnecessarily cryptic.
In the end it throws waves of enemies to you.


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>> No.4977974

That one's a bit of an odd duck in progression, admittedly.
I really like the atmosphere a lot though.
There's two or so much worse maps later though.

>> No.4977978

has /vr/doom ever had an irl meetup?

>> No.4977979

damn that half life echoes is good, shame it ends so abruptly after 3 hours

>> No.4977983

Are those more difficult that Scythe?

>> No.4978000

half of the people here is from lat

>> No.4978003

So... they'd promptly shoot each other to death?

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>> No.4978016

With the existence of this mod, has anyone tried adding the prisoner 849 in Samsara?

>> No.4978018

Thanks, I do need a refresher. On.my old Motorola Droid 4 I had the shareware version of doom and duke 3d. Dunno if they're still in the app store but the controls being ON SCREEN were a pain, I could never get used to them. The rpg shouldn't be a problem since it was turn based. Thanks for the heads up on Wolfenstein too. This game cost 6.99 in the vzw navigator store in 2006 or so.

>> No.4978025

I can't think of anything that would be in TNT.
It's just that there's a few levels in the late third which are actually pretty awful.

To save your bloodpressure a bit, in Baron's Den, one of the keys you need to progress is hidden in a room behind a fake wall, in a small dirt corridor, not far form a large green marble pillar.
There is absolutely nothing to indicate or hint at this anywhere, the key is just hidden because go fuck yourself.

>> No.4978027

they are the same tho

>> No.4978028

>unzips m. can

>> No.4978029


If they could somehow figure out any rights issues, I'd love it if they included Doom 64 in something like that.

>> No.4978034

I tried long ago and failed.
I want to try again now..
I think at least one Prisoner 849 standalone mod exist.

>> No.4978035

the four big things I remember being an issue were:
- unreal's armor system was impossible to implement in zdoom at the time, and it's still impossible in zandronum, since you need zscript for it
- the GES goop merging together was maybe possible back then, but would've required disgusting hacks to make it work. zscript would make that actually feasible
- the homing on the ripper's alt-fire caused some grief, although that's because I didn't know what a vector projection was back then
- the big one was that samsara's codebase was fucking awful, became more and more impenetrable with every release, and no one wanted to deal with it anymore. and yes, zscript would massively help with this one too.

if zandronum ever gets a zscript build, expect things to happen

>> No.4978037

it seems that would require zscript becoming stable which won't happen anytime soon

>> No.4978038
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>mfw watching all these people with their SSGs try to rush me as I mow them down with the chaingun

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For the first time, a live demonstration of Immoral Conduct: Counter-Diabolic Commando

>> No.4978043

I heard id or Zenimax may own the game but the OST is owned by Aubrey Hodges and Midway was taken over by WB

>> No.4978053
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Will there ever be a good sourceport option for the Marathon trilogy of games? I find the free form from Bungie frustrating and barely playable.

>> No.4978058

you sure it's not just the default setting?

>> No.4978060

I remember having a lot of issues with the games framerate, iirc something was locked to a set speed that I couldn't stand.

>> No.4978063

Is this scenario unwinnable?
>3 Archviles
>No cover

>> No.4978069

just stagger the rockets

>> No.4978071
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how do i gain a relative mastery of acs scripting instead of just knowing how to do specific things? is there a set of tutorials out there that can provide a comprehensive understanding?

>> No.4978076

>pick up invincibility sphere
>pull out plasma gun

>> No.4978078

anything that offers high pain chance, also their attack is limited to 1024 units range iirc

>> No.4978081

Needs more information.

>> No.4978083

You are guaranteed to get smoked at least twice regardless of the outcome. Archviles are OP as fuck.

>> No.4978085

>unreal's armor system was impossible to implement in zdoom at the time
What makes it so special?

>> No.4978092


>> No.4978103

unreal has layered armor, and zdoom has no inherent support for layered armor

eg. you can have a shield belt at 20%, an assault vest at 57%, and a kevlar suit at 40%, and you get hit for 100 damage.
- shield belt has 100% absorb rate, and absorbs the 20 damage it can, leaving 80 damage left
- assault vest has 90% absorb rate, and absorbs the 57 damage it can, leaving 23 damage left
- kevlar suit has 50% absorb rate, and absorbs 11 damage, leaving 12 damage left
- you take the remaining 12 damage

>> No.4978112

Doesn't Samsara usually either leaves some stuff from the characters or goes creative with them?

>> No.4978114

isn't hexen armor just like this?

>> No.4978115
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Who are they?

>> No.4978120

moe, larry and curly

>> No.4978121

Demon lords. Sugondez, Bophades, and Leegma.

>> No.4978141

>GES goop merging together
That's an UT2k4 thing. Unreal and UT didn't have this.

>> No.4978143

bj, doomguy, and ranger

>> No.4978150

There should be a mod with enemies based on these guys.

>> No.4978151

only when necessary, as I remember it. the real killer was not being able to figure out how to remake the ripper or bio rifle's mechanics, as not including either of those... well, I remember how people *really* didn't like not having the super nailgun.
also I guess having ASMD cores potentially block shots (so you could shoot them) would be bad; that's something zscript can help with too. that wasn't really on anyone's mind on the time, though.

nah, hexen armor distributes the damage evenly between all five armor sources (amulet/mesh/shield/helm/innate), and the amount you have doubles as its absorption percentage (the AC value is 1/5 the amount you have, so 20 is 100% absorption)

testing it, they just explode if you shoot a blob into another, which is basically the same problem with a different outcome
much less critical though, and hell, would anyone complain if they did merge?

>> No.4978171

wasn't there a weaponset with hellish weapons with one or two of these faces?
eriguns 2 i think?

>> No.4978181

Probably Eriguns or Hell-forged.

>> No.4978207

Good golly, Deem is so ugly game even for its age.

>> No.4978223

It's only going to get worse and worse from there. Map 17 was last good map. It's shame really. First third of Evilution is fucking godtier. Looks and gameplay start drop from map to map in second third and maps start to become too large for their own good. Last third is like "we have one night time left to release this wad, but we have only 20 maps, so let's just throw something there to finish this". Last map is quite expected climax to the whole shit show, because it might be worst map I've played. Boring as shit, has that horrible bridge puzzle at the beginning and last room is one of most boring ways to design Icon Of The Sin boss battle.

Still in some strange way I still somehow like the wad. Maybe it's the nostalgia.

>> No.4978224

is there any reason to play a Doom 1 wad that isn't a Megawad?

>> No.4978228

What do you mean? Why would being a megawad or not matter?

>> No.4978238

Tormentor's stuff and those zdoom community projects have the lion-faced baron.

>> No.4978240

well if it's just a short cluster of levles or a single level, wouldn't it be more optimal to just be a Doom 2 wad? The only thing Doom 1 had that Doom 2 didn't was the episode layout, Doom 2 just eliminated that and added more on top of what was already in Doom 1.

>> No.4978243

Kinda weird that Kegan loves the pistol in MetaDoom.

>> No.4978245

No, Doom 1 has textures that weren't carried over to Doom 2.

>> No.4978246

Crusades is pretty good shit. Go play it.

>> No.4978253

i wonder if the reason for mapping for doom 1 could something to do with starting on a simpler game, before moving into doom 2 mapping

>> No.4978262

Phobos, Deimos, Inferno or ep4 style maps are best to be made with Doom 1. There is no need for Doom 2 monsters and also >>4978245.

>> No.4978263

is it enough that can't be infused into a Doom 2 wad though? I'm pretty sure someone has packed all those textures into Doom 2 allowing the Doom 1 levels to be played with the Double Shotty and the new enemies.

>> No.4978280
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What are your favorite pre-Cacoward-era wads (1993-2003)? Here's my folder.

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what is a megawad that simulates some kind of a campaign?
something with a resemblance of a plot, interconnected leves, non abstract shitty maze maps
something like Extermination Day

>> No.4978290 [DELETED] 

why do comments get deleted for no reason here? is this fucking r*ddit?

>> No.4978292

Sometimes less is more.

>> No.4978293
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guys, I'm very blocked with my haunted mansion map, what movies has old creepy mansions?

>> No.4978295

you know exactly why that post was deleted

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Freaking Love D4T.

>> No.4978297

is that sarcasm.

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leegma what?

>> No.4978304

I wish the multiplayer went in a different direction, it was basically QC lite until QCDE came out, dbt could’ve made it its own thing

>> No.4978308

I didn't even see it. Unless it was child porn or unironic spam, but let's face it, I've seen jannies delete certain replies for just being an unpopular opinion

>> No.4978312

What is the difference beween GZDoom Builder and Doom Builder X?

>> No.4978315

>I didn't even see it but let's throw a tantrum, just in case

>> No.4978328

where can I get this mod and the hud??
please respond

>> No.4978331

gzdoom builder bugfix supports advanced gzdoom features such as 3D floors, slopes, models, voxels, textures definitions, etc

>> No.4978337

Yeah just in case it was someone saying something nice about Doom 3 or claiming that Brutal Doom might actually not be a bad mod

>> No.4978339

>why do comments get deleted for no reason here? is this fucking r*ddit?

This was the post

>> No.4978341

I think I have given up on D4T, even though I really wanted to love it. I don't really like how most of the D44M enemies behave in this, especially since iwads and pwads seem to be much more confined than D44M is, and drops hardly work when you use any enemy replacer.

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That one with Eddie Murphy?
Monster House? Which was a 3D animated movie about three kids and some old man i guess

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>> No.4978349

When there's a proper Beta.


>> No.4978352

Fuck, this was someone's thumbnail for a YT video
Just wanted to post a flash game i played once

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imagine being so unable to handle the bantz

>> No.4978359

can't you see is a fucking work in progress, you you niggurat

>> No.4978360

sweet home

>> No.4978371

You should try some addons then.they change and tweak the experience a bit.

But it's expected when you take game with a different level design to another.
Try Moddb you might find something.

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Is Chex Quest the only true 'Doom Jr.'?

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The Tacobell floppy fps was the only other unless you count Catacombs 3D.

>> No.4978428

can anybody help?

>> No.4978431

Freedoom phase 1

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>> No.4978434

I.M. Meen is more of a Wolfenstein Jr., if anything.

>> No.4978486
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Can anyone recommend some classic wads/megawads to jam in Crispy Doom? I'm looking for stuff similar to Lost Episodes of Doom and Perdition's Gate.

>> No.4978495

For a second there I thought that was like, a baked potato with DOOM carved into it

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>> No.4978561

Do you need to set up a cdg to get 3d models to show up in gzdoombuilder or is there a way to get that through the modeldef/decorate/zscript lumps?

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worked for me

>> No.4978568

From the Quake wiki about Doomguy in Quake 3:

"In the chat lines he also get mentioned as "Mad man", "Loony" and "Schitzo". When he's losing the match, you can witness him losing levels of his sanity. Talking about voices from the pitch, massacres in the corridors of UAC and dead friends. You'll see that he's a reckless war veteran, even if he's called a lunatic, don't turn your back to him or he'll make you pay for your foolishness."

I've tested it and apparently it's true,I've fought him on Hurt me Plenty on Anarki arena.At first it was pretty easy then he started to get pretty tough,then when I was close to win,he made a comeback and almost reached me. Damn.

I've did the same with Phobos,he did a comeback later on but not nearly on Doomguy's level.He didn't have the same accuracy.

I know that Phobos is tier 1 and Doomguy is tier 6 but I've always thought that they were nothing more than palette swaps.That's really cool.

>> No.4978601
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Any dope ANSI art ENDOOM screens? Anyone got a collection of them?

>> No.4978624

Not much man, how are you?

>> No.4978632

THUMP for Thief

>> No.4978648

I found it
the perfect fit for LTG
Kama Sutra
well more like HDoom but that isnt as fun

>> No.4978662

What do you guys think of a map with the gimmick that there's a gauntlet room available from the very start, but that it locks you in and pushes you to your limits, so the objective of the map is to go around to smaller rooms collecting weapons and ammunition in a kind of freeform way in order to get strong enough to tackle the final room when you feel ready?

Like, you start with a pistol, there's a room with imps that rewards a shotgun and some ammo, a room with shotgunners and a chaingunner that rewards the chaingun and ammo, some kind of non-combat but deadly challenge that rewards armor, etc. ?

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It's a cool concept but you need to make sure to effectively communicate to the player that they can build up supplies or skip to later rooms.

>> No.4978693

Is there a mod that adds a lives system where you can game over?

>> No.4978696

I tried two and they didn't really do anything for me, I'll try again some time later to see if they do anything for me then.

>> No.4978704

Yeah, I'm thinking a hallway or circular hub area with non-linear offshoots, and strict ammo counts that the difficulty levels would take care of. Maybe have it such that you can only miss ~20% of shots on UV before you're in trouble, and require 100% accuracy on Nightmare? Would be interested to see a speedrun of that kind of map, and how few resources a really good player would need to beat the final room.

>> No.4978717

I think Contra Doom had a lives system. Might be wrong.
There's also this thing I made long ago.
Kinda wish I could go back to it. And maybe make a gzdoom version.
Literally Babby's first Doom mod, though. Don't expect much balance.

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>> No.4978756

Are there any mods that enhance coop play in general making it less of a freeplay-esque distraction? Something like Halo where if one player dies they can't respawn if the other is in immediate danger?

>> No.4978768

Or, you know, I could turn Survival Coop on

>> No.4978785

It's funny that the BFG9000 is even that iconic, when part of its design was some toy used at id and the same goes for some other weapons too
Just imagine being whatever poor factory came up with those cheap toys and realizing a bunch of nerds used it to make iconic weapons for a big video game

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The person who designed it would probably be stoked that it's so famous. I also don't think that poor factory workers are the ones creating the designs.

>> No.4978797

No one should ever use that ceiling flat unironically.

>> No.4978858

Pretty much.
Unless the fellow spics here follow the Bolivarian dream of union and friendship, which i doubt.

>> No.4978870

Doomguy: Chad
Doometernalslayer: chaddest

>> No.4978874

doomslayer is cheese?

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Oh fuck didn't notice that kek

>> No.4978894

I immensely love discovering Counter-Strike's origins and the creator's previous works. Like before Action Quake 2, there was this:


It looks super sick.

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You know it's a shame.
I really haven't touched much of Quake or it's mods in comparison to Doom.

>> No.4978906

jesus colorful hell is such a shitshow

>> No.4978910

Not enough legendary monsters with "epic" music and 800 guns to please you?

>> No.4978935

Unless they're coming for you from reaaaally far away, the chaingun really doesn't have the firepower to pull this off. Weakest vidya chaingun ever.

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>> No.4978943

It's a mod perfect to make broken gameplay mods actually fun.

>> No.4978946

what's a way to restart a coop map if all players are dead in GZDoom

>> No.4978948

Russian Overkill makes colorful hell a joke though.

>> No.4978950

changemap command
unless you mean on the mod side of things, in which case maybe look at how hideous destructor implements lives

>> No.4978957

It still amazes me that RTC-3057 was from 2003.

>> No.4978995

I don't even use the D4 enemies and I've given up for completely different reasons, mostly the bugs with it giving allmap for no reason and his insistence on shoving in features that don't belong there.

>> No.4979000

Are there any good mods/TCs that pit you against human opponents, like in ww-terror?

>> No.4979009

Doom WAD where you fight as an autobot fighting mostly decepticons WHEN?

>> No.4979010
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Hexen and its expansion are great fun. There's something really satisfying about blasting these flaming assholes out of the sky with my chilly-fingers technique, and then seeing them burst into a million pieces upon impact with the floor.

>> No.4979013

Eh. To be fair while there's still a lot of good Quake mods, I'd say for every Quake mod there's 100x Doom mods. It's just so much easier to customize.

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>colorful hell + high noon drifter

>> No.4979042
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Chocolate Hexen? Patrician

>> No.4979052

as an Argentine I'm pretty sure we would only shoot "y-you too"s at ourselves

>> No.4979058

>half of the people here are from Latin America

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>> No.4979067

I'm Chilean and this statement is accurate

>> No.4979073

I will suck the dick of whoever can make it so I can select -1.5 as a damage modifier for High Noon Drifter. -1 is a bit too high, and -2 is a bit too low.

>> No.4979075

It always crashed on me at the end of Shadow Wood.

>> No.4979106

If you dig into the Q3A files, every bot has their own stats for jumpiness, aggressiveness, how likely they are to respond in chat, etc. for every difficulty level, and that's aside from all the unique chat lines (a few of which are general-purpose ones shared by all bots, but many of which are unique to each one).

>> No.4979128 [DELETED] 

Marathon uses a system of 'ticks'. A tick IIRC is half of a second, and ticks make the game playable. Ticks are tied to FPS and uncapping it breaks the game, which is why Aleph One is locked at 30.

>> No.4979130
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People may shit on Sandy's Quake maps because they're not as pretty as Romero's or as gloomy as McGee's, but damn if I don't love some of the little setpieces that he made like the miniature diorama in E4M2 that teleports you to the chosen door of its full-size equivalent across the map when you enter it.

>> No.4979136
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>La Tailor Girl
>Regulus the shotgun god
>switch to voidsphere

>> No.4979138

Someone make a dedicated "Super Shotgun gibs enemies at close range" mod like smooth doom has

>> No.4979160

I've never played a DOOM game, ever. Theres so many versions, mods and wads etc. I dont really know where to start.
Please help me /vr/.

>> No.4979164

Just boot up vanilla Doom 1 and start playing

>> No.4979165

set up your sourceport
get ultimate doom
play it
get doom 2
play it
NOW you can start fiddling with mods and maps

> vanilla before sprinkles

then do the same for heretic and hexen

>> No.4979172

Is there any WAD that combines DOOM 2 enemies and weapons with DOOM 1 map design?

>> No.4979175

reminder that if you play with ANY mod that is based off of Perks smooth weapons, like perks smooth weapons, the perks smooth weapons improvement, smoothdoom, etc, you are LITERALLY making the game easier as the supershot fires 2 tics faster than vanilla

>> No.4979180

TUMP(Thief 1 version of QUMP) WHEN!?

>> No.4979182


Have you read the "So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom" image?

>> No.4979184


The moment you boot ZDoom you're not playing vanilla anymore, so what's even the point?

>> No.4979189
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Demo version of LOTX - a community-optional project (kinda?) released.
-R667 assets
-Music (cannot be compressed to midi, sorry)
-3 levels 'completed'- subject to future modification (map01-02, inter01)
-Most maps existing in some form, though others are only basic layout.
-Maps are mostly experimental and tend to have some kind of gimmick.
-Maps are free to edit/modify to your liking; feel free to mess around with the maps yet untouched especially.
-Credits not implemented- won't do until project properly ready.
-Probably a bunch of stuff I failed to mention


Feedback appreciated; though immature behavior will be discarded.

>> No.4979191

hey anon
my SSG has a base damage of 6
my SG spread is 5.0

>> No.4979192
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This image is probably better

>> No.4979194

I like >>4979189 better personally, it just "fits"

>> No.4979204

well I probably shouldn't of deleted the map image then. oops.

Entryway of Map02 is displeasing to me but I've no clue how to set the things it's set to do properly otherwise (going down the steps fires off a bunch of triggers, player is supposed to be aware of the baron via it killing the marine on other side of window, etc.), Map02 was probably the worst of the "draw 5 shapes and connect" thing.

>> No.4979218

IMO, Sandy Petersen maps are in general overhated. They may not be pretty, but they were often very creative and varied. Everyone else kinda followed a formula in their level design, I felt.

>> No.4979221

They were a chore to play and felt extremely generic. Just thinking about Downtown in Doom 2 makes me dry heave.

>> No.4979226

>and felt extremely generic
His maps were anything but generic to me.

>> No.4979228

every "city" map in D2 is terrible, I think Sandy maps are best when he isnt tied by logic or realism, then he can make all sorts of dungeon-crawly things he likes

>> No.4979246
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uh, this was probably it, yes?

>> No.4979253

Yeah, I like Petersen maps usually, but I can agree that Downtown is definitely bad. His strong point in mapping is making something have a strange and otherworldly vibe to it. Downtown is not this at all, and just comes across as half-baked.

>> No.4979275

I personally never liked the smooth mods, because they have very awkward looking animations.

>> No.4979359

I -should- note that the scripts on inter01 took up the majority of the time, gave a stress-induced migraine and they're still not entirely right

>> No.4979360
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vanilla is boring as hell if you don't have the nostalgia factor going, just get this, unzip and launch

>> No.4979365

This idiot didn't know what they were making:
Mars in original? No.
d2016 fast? no.

>> No.4979370

Nu-doom also has cutscenes literally everywhere.

>> No.4979372

Flood Zone is cancer. it just gets tiring when every 5 seconds that boss keeps spawning from a wall in a mountain that slides open

>> No.4979385

This entire post sucks.

>> No.4979387


>> No.4979389

Reminder that Doom was never MEANT to be played fast

>> No.4979390

>vanilla is boring as hell if you don't have the nostalgia factor going

Fuck off.

And I'm saying this as someone who thinks nu-doom is at least a solid 8/10.

>> No.4979391

Reminder that some maps are supposed to be cramped. Walk for a change.

>> No.4979394

based and redpilled

>> No.4979395

>implying og doomguy is faceless

>> No.4979396

not based, bluepilled.

>> No.4979398


His face is literally one of the most iconic things in the game.

>> No.4979406

take it back to /v/

>> No.4979410

Is HighNoonDrifter fun?

>> No.4979416

>Recommending someone play Brutal Doom for a first playthrough
>That image
I don't even hate DOOM 2016, I loved it and am eager for more, yet I still think you should fuck right off entirely.

>> No.4979417


>> No.4979420
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>falling for obvious bait
this boards is too sheltered

>> No.4979423

>Thinking he isn't being genuine
Do you know how many secondaries that mod dragged in

>> No.4979424

We know it's bait, that's why we're collectively telling him to fuck off.
You can fuck off too.

>> No.4979425

>no, it couldnt be bait, then i wouldnt have something to be righteously indignant about!

>> No.4979430

>Merely pretending

>> No.4979440

>imagine being this frustrated over a non vanilla Doom title's success and genuine quality

>> No.4979442

Are we talking about Final Doomer? Why would anyone be frustrated about that?

>> No.4979445

Well if the anon clicks the link and sees for himself how good Sarge's EDay is compared to boomer doom you'll have one less brainlet running about muh >timeless purism

>> No.4979447
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fuck off markity moo

>> No.4979449
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Actually, come to think of it. Hey >>4979160 if you're skiddish about jumping right into Doom 1 or 2 straight vanilla, you could always try Final Doomer with the Doom 2 weaponset, though you'll need to keep in mind that the weapons are stronger than vanilla, but it might help you ease into Doom's gameplay a little.

I recommend you just go right into Doom 1 and get a feel for things though. The gameplay is rock solid and make sure to study PRO DOOM STRATS as seen here:

This video will genuinely teach you some valuable techniques on how to fuck up hellspawn. Welcome aboard anon, Doom is fun.

>> No.4979453

>everyobe that disagrees with me is Mark
again, let anon be the judge

>> No.4979456

Let me just shill DRLA for a moment

>> No.4979459

Do you want a demo for this? If so, in what source port?

>> No.4979465

d44m is fast.

>> No.4979487
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>> No.4979490
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It's GZDoom.
You can make a demo if you like. There's still some glaring issues but I did my best to fix it up.
It's a demo for a larger mapset, people can jump on if they want, basic layouts are generally there

general comments:
map01 originally involved a cyber chase right out of the gate, but it was generally removed, otherwise okay.

map02 is generally not that great, but it was one of the first 'draw 5 shapes and connect' - oldest renditions pictured.

inter01 has some bugs in the script and is rather experimental; hard to convey the theme, would be easier if 100% of map was semi-transparent, textures and all, intended to experiment for a future theme.

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>> No.4979495
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oh fuck
now i remember
my sides

>> No.4979496
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>> No.4979504
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So um.
This was in Doom Eternal gameplay

>> No.4979506

please let that be what i think

>> No.4979507
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And this.

>> No.4979509
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We MOP now?

>> No.4979510

We what?

>> No.4979516

old master of puppets had marines actually have to level their shit instead of getting everything from the get go. was better.

basically co-op but you can play as a puppetmaster and take over demons.

all it needs is a sprinkle of Zombie Master

>> No.4979525

Then no.
We Dark Souls now.

>> No.4979531

Doom Slayer = DS
Dark Souls = DS
Doom Slayer = Dark Souls!

Nintendo DS!

>> No.4979553

Doom3guy: cheddar

>> No.4979557
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It seems Joel doesn't know about "Eternal Doom" the wad.

>> No.4979562 [DELETED] 

why does /vr/ hate brutal doom?

>> No.4979586 [DELETED] 
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> That post doesn't exist anymore.

>> No.4979595

I thought you fucked off to some other site.

>> No.4979601

>41mb for three maps
Fucking hell.

>> No.4979610

After Mill the game gradually starts to get worse and worse. Not every map past this point is bad, but the worst is yet to come.

>> No.4979614

At the moment my favorite mapset is Icarus. Been going through the Top 100 on Doomworld and picking what seems like fun.

>> No.4979616

Maybe he does but doesn't think it's very important.

>> No.4979617


>> No.4979620

This is kind of true.
I love TNT a lot, but the last third is, as someone once put it, 'Where it just officially starts falling apart.'

>> No.4979624

You can screw around with the Survival mode settings in Zandronum to recreate having lives.

>> No.4979625

Russian Overkill is an exception because it's designed to be as deliberately OP as possible

>> No.4979627

Whenever I play a mod that has a weapon with Hexen's freeze effect I usually end up using nothing but that until it runs out of ammo. Good shit.

>> No.4979637

I love how as soon as you get to Hell the gameplay goes to hell with it. It almost feels intentional.

>> No.4979652
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Some people are hopeless casuals and refuse to adapt to a different enemy, because it's largely a weak one, and when they bite the dust, they thus feel cheated.

A lot of people also somehow make the assumption that using cover ever is ugly and wrong, just because a lot of generic modern game feature inorganic cover mechanics as their core gameplay (and then assert this is good reasoning, in spite of strafing around a corner not being even remotely the same as pressing a contextual prompt that makes you sit statically behind a chest-high wall, because "COVER IS FOR COWARDS")
Dodging behind a pillar to avoid taking a face full of buckshot, is somehow not a good course of action, it's instead the dev's fault that all enemies aren't just throwing slow projectiles like imps.

Most of these people got into the game in more recent years, then because of exposure to terrible attempts at realistic shooters, and hearing fairytales about oldschool shooters, come into old games like Doom and Duke Nukem 3D, with warped expectations.

In short, if they'll gladly maneuver to put a baron of hell between themselves and a mancubus, to make fatty hit muscles, and watch muscles slap fatty's ass, or get into hiding when flameboi starts working his devil magic, why would they just as well not put level architecture between themselves and a zombie with a shotgun? Because they one way or another have the expectation that they shouldn't have to.

>> No.4979673

idk man kill the zombie first, ez

>> No.4979685

I mean exactly.
Guy can hurt you pretty bad if he scores a full hit on you, and if RNG isn't being very merciful, but he's also very fragile, why WOULDN'T you make him a priority target?
Why WOULDN'T you go you of your way to avoid getting hit by him, and to kill him as soon as possible?

>> No.4979691

>We know it's bait, that's why we're all biting and giving him what he wants!
Sound logic.
>telling him to fuck off
Oh because that's bound to work, right? What is this, Dora the Explorer?

>> No.4979692

You can fuck off too.

>> No.4979695
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Doom 2016 is faster than the original.

>> No.4979696


>> No.4979701

Doom 4 is by no means slow, but the original game can be pretty stupidly fast if you put the effort in.
You have straferunning, wallrunning, rocket 'jumping', really fast enemies like the archie, cyber and lost soul, etc.

I mean there's theoretical scenarios where you strafe+wall run at high speed, and an arch-vile then launches you into the air, where you can fucking leap great distances.

>> No.4979703

Isn't this the arcade mode with juiced up runes? Something a first time player through the normal mode wouldn't have access to?

>> No.4979704

>can be pretty stupidly fast if you put the effort in.
But not as fast as Doom 4 where you can shoot 2 imps with a shotgun the moment it takes you to shoot one in the original.

>> No.4979710
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>seven enemies in 23 seconds in the cherrypicked arcade mode with optimized runes
you are like a little baby
watch this
i'm not even good at doom

>> No.4979718

You dodge the pinkies decently.

>> No.4979727
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imagine if i was actually good though

>> No.4979742
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doom 4 is a fine game
but if you think it's faster than the original then you haven't played the original

>> No.4979754

>ok I will enter the mancubi room, shoot my flak cannon and get out
>oh shit my cure outfit is gone
>oh hi super chaingunner I didnt see you up there

>> No.4979815

high noon drifter has a dodge slide and this mod is meant for it. being able to shoot at cowboys while seeing their bullets whiz by the top of your hat is cool.

mappers aren't braindead idiots who let you take cover for chaingunner ambushes or snipers nests. even in encounters against a single chaingunner, rng for pain chance means that shotguns and chainguns will still let them sneak in a shot or two or six.

>> No.4979846

a sticking point for me on these things is that id never publicly released their authoring tools for Doom. Everything was reverse-engineered by hackers. The very first custom WAD was created by hand in a hex editor in 1994.

Decades later someone found DoomEd and idBSP on a NeXTcube someone found in a dumpster but id never publicly released it.

Also, comparing custom WAD authoring tools, dehacked, etc. to Snapmap is laughable.

>> No.4979859

I dunno if monster deaths per second is the way to go for "speed" in a game.
Racing games are pretty fast and you almost never kill demons in them.
The monsters in Doom 2016 are faster monster. It necessitates dodging more, and from faster projectiles. Conversely your move speed in OG Doom is faster, and monsters go down quicker, but can be just as threatening if used correctly.

Might not be worth debating which is faster since the idea could mean different things with different weights to their relevance.

>> No.4979860

>id never publicly released their authoring tools for Doom
Carmack released the entire source code in like, 1998 or something, and people quickly developed tools from that.

>but id never publicly released it
That shit would only run on NeXTSTEP anyway, what value would it be to anyone who wasn't the tiny minority with a machine like that?

>> No.4979863

I think that level design is one of the key questions here, actually.
Like, original Doom is a fairly easy game, for the most of it, but if you look even something like just Plutonia, it dials up the gameplay a lot, not even going into usermade megawads like Alien Vendetta or Hell Revealed.

>> No.4979890


I play with default -fast anyway

that's how I die and I die and I die, is not even funny at a point, I should discuss this with my psychologist and ask her if she play with -fast too

>> No.4979894
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I retract everything bad I said about Colorful Hell and issue an apology to God, Allah, Bishnu, Satan and the entire Greek pantheon and the Norse deities.

This is so fucking fun and just needed to stop being a faggot and go with Trailblazer oh jesus fuck
even if it most of the time it ends being a moderate challenge because fuck if anything is going to stop a Pillow character
I had such a huge grin in my face

>> No.4979897

>not playing UV-Fast

>> No.4979907
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>> No.4979915

you know, it's not rocket science making a .midi

>> No.4979929

While it's true that people made source ports, etc. from the code, people were using map editors that were reverse-engineered long before that. UAC Military Nightmare, Memento Mori, DWANGO5, Perdition's Gate, Aliens TC, Final Doom, etc. were all created with tools reverse-engineered from the game, without the aid of source code.

>> No.4979936

Plutonia in particular necessitates movement with it's liberal use of chaingunners and revenants.

If you had a character move as fast as doomguy in a proper 3d engine with realistic graphics, with proper item scales etc, it would look like he's a goddamn super hero. There wouldn't be many other ways to explain it away...

>> No.4979954

how I do remove the extra enemies of colourful hell?
I just wanted colored default enemies

>> No.4979958
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hey guys do you want to see an obscure video of mine where there's a friend playing blood and me playing the harmonica?

>> No.4979959

Don't let them get the drop on you, darling.

>> No.4979960

How about literally just LOOKING IN THE FUCKING OPTIONS???

>> No.4979962

am asking because I don't see any option

>> No.4979972
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the optionals should also be off by default
if all else fails you can check your ini file for the ch_ cvars

>> No.4979973

ok, I dungoofed my gzdoom somehow

>> No.4979975

I updated my gzdoom
I think it was the ex bosses option, I don't know what that means anyway

>> No.4979981

I didnt even know colorful had extra enemies besides the Doom roster
it should be a bit of spice to add to trailblazer

>> No.4980038


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>> No.4980053

I don't know.

>> No.4980056

rev up the brightness so it's not so obscure

>> No.4980060

Ask again later.

>> No.4980098
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How can I take screenshots on Quake Spasm?
I tried the console 'screenshot' and took one but with the console visible and it was .tga

>> No.4980102

That's a mighty handsome rifle.

>> No.4980103

probably want to bind screenshot to a key

>> No.4980106

Welcome to open GL, peon.

Bind a key to screenshot


>> No.4980107

I could bind console commands to keys?
Pretty cool.

>> No.4980109

It's pretty neat. At least as a curiosity.
Looks badass, and has a lot of perplexing features.

If you're interested in mechanics and history, here's a video going over it:

>> No.4980116

it was already there by default, F12 .

>> No.4980126
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you ruined a potential malcolm combo
by the way i am the original creator of this picture. the masking sucks but i was too high when i did it. i love to talk with you guys abot those games that only leaves me with sperm in the body.

>> No.4980129

This video is wonderful, thank you.

>> No.4980132
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no man, thank you. i really appreciate it

>> No.4980135

it looks like some other dude in the room playing something else, do you guys just get together to play games? that sounds like a lot of fun

>> No.4980140
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Dr. Hayden, I'm UAC.

>> No.4980149
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Yes, when he has some times we often play games like doom, heretic, blood, strife, quake, hexen, duke nukem, shadow warrior, unreal, blake stone, rise of triads, powerslave, redneck rampage and so on. We don't mind more "recent" games like POSTAL 2, but what is essential for us is hearing the OSTs or if possible 80s dance hall, power ballads and so on, 60s/70s rock, 20s/30s and up with the blues and if there's the occasion we put on some heavy metal, vintage or recent, but for the latter we prefer experimental stuff in the sector of thrash metal, armonic and more. So yes, fundamentally what we do is playing old games. I wanted to be on theme FPS but we've played tons and tons of hours on games like Crash Bash, Crash Team Racing and other PS1/PS2 games.

>> No.4980157

that sounds like a blast, man. none of my irl friends give a shit about retro shooters. if they do play games it's recent stuff for xbox 1 or ps4. what country are you from? also if you arent already in, would you like an invite to the blood discord?

>> No.4980167
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yeah, i know that feel. it's very rare to find someone who plays the same games as you do, and often even if they do play them they're douchebags. that's not the case with the guy i've registered that video, though. i'm a pizza spaghetti faggot, unluckily. But of course you can add me on the discord; i don't give a damn leaving my current discord ID here if i'm being honest, so here it is: BigSmegma#9088

>> No.4980201

Not /vr/ but is Wolfenstein 2: TNC good? What are some of the issues the game has?

>> No.4980207


the first half is decent.
the second half, nooot so much.

the upgrades come a little bit too late into the game, they make you feel like you're playing doom 2016 but without everything that makes doom 2016 good.

the most lackluster ending of all wolfenstein games so far.

>> No.4980210

try beautiful doom, you will love it

>> No.4980219

it's not great. combat is tedious and involves a lot of hiding and leaning out of cover. story sucks compared to wolf TNO. levels are mostly pretty dull and doesn't do much with the setting (where the the insanely oversized public works projects?) overall it's skippable.

>> No.4980223

It's good but not great IMO. The ending isn't all that good (aside from one specific part in the final cinematic). The story is great and I love all the old and new characters but the level design in particular falls flat compared to TNO and TOB.

If you like the New Wolf games, I recommend it, but it's nothing to write home about, which is a real shame.

>> No.4980224

>starts list of classic WADs with a terrywad from 2008
ok buddy

>> No.4980225

I didn't start playing 1993 Doom until a couple of years ago. I honestly prefer it over 2016 Doom

>> No.4980227

someone else said F12 is bound to screenshot but in the future, "bind [key] [action]" is the syntax you use for binding actions to keys. Keep in mind [action] can be any console command, though you'll want to encapsule it in quotation marks if you're executing a console command with arguments.

>> No.4980229 [DELETED] 

Sup retro neighbors. Let's talk about retro raibus


honk /llsifg/!: >>>/vg/224664603

>> No.4980232

You are filth, sir.

>> No.4980234

>a sticking point for me on these things is that id never publicly released their authoring tools for Doom. Everything was reverse-engineered by hackers. The very first custom WAD was created by hand in a hex editor in 1994.
>Decades later someone found DoomEd and idBSP on a NeXTcube someone found in a dumpster but id never publicly released it.
id Software released the source code to their internal node builder tool in May 1994.

>> No.4980235

why this

>> No.4980237

ahhhh shit I meant Doomsday of UAC

>> No.4980241

Okay, but not WAD authoring tools.

>> No.4980242

>his waifu is a raibu
Poor taste.

>> No.4980258

great fucking WAD

>> No.4980271

I'd love to see a Transformers TC WAD for either DOOM1 or DOOM2.

>> No.4980306

It's pretty, but it descends into mindless slaughtershit. Boring.

>> No.4980312

That's kind of Skillsaw to you, he's fond of quantity over quality when it comes to enemy placement, IMO.

>> No.4980338

Trailblazer is my favorite pillow mod, and it's almost necessary to play it with colorful hell.

>> No.4980387

Yeah, it's funny how Doom ended up being the most modded retro FPS when it didn't even come with a level editor like many others did.

>> No.4980398
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They basically gave people the tools to make their own tools. It was a great decision all around. Low effort on id's part as they didn't have to develop or support anything, and users got the features they wanted because they were the people making the editors in the first place.

>> No.4980402

You really don't understand. Some claim it changes too much. It would be on the same line as trying to midi aphex twin's "come to daddy"

>> No.4980421
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>opengl renderer on latest GZDoom, enemy + decoration sprites missing
>try same settings with GZDoom v1.9, everything's fine

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Im having some issues with gzdoom,for some reason any wad that i play crashes when i push the next level button(it works fine on the old doom2 wad)im running out of patience here.Im thinking i just delete everything and play doom1 and doom2 forever on chocolate doom

>> No.4980445

Truly Graf needs to be dumped.

>> No.4980448

Delete gzdoom and never play it again.

>> No.4980458

Never had that issue before. Crazy. Don't think I can help you, sorry.

Do you have an ATI card?

>> No.4980468

I heard it's because a driver update was bugged.

>> No.4980524
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say you get a Wand of Impossible Doom Wishes, what do toy wish for?

>a third character for La Tailor Girl, this time a buff lady
>speaking of buff ladies: playable Basilissa in HND
>BURL TUMD returning from the dead
>proper fucking mod tools for Doom Eternal and not snapmap 2.0
>Goind Down 2: GOING UP

>> No.4980535

>>proper fucking mod tools for Doom Eternal and not snapmap 2.0
Snapmap definitely aint coming back, thats confirmed. But we don't know if actual mod tools are coming either. They said that mod support is a "long-term" goal and the engine is more ready for them, but didn't specify whether it'd happen for DE.

>> No.4980536

Terminus Samsara with all term mods beingh completed standalone and Hdoom compatible with monster mods (by that i mean you can have female variations of every mosnter) alternatively, final doomer classes for more megawads!

>> No.4980545

A full and complete H-Doom, also including lolis, tentacles and a genderswapped mode, so I can watch a cute Doomgirl tomboy get gangbanged by Barons.

>> No.4980547
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Good thing I have nvidia

>> No.4980549

Post it on the ZDoom tech support forum.

Here's a demo of map01 on GZ

As someone who plays almost exclusively vanilla or vanilla-like mods, I have to admit I was a bit overwhelmed by this. It's certainly purty, though I started out not realizing that I picked up a second pistol, nor could I immediately tell where the keycard was supposed to go (or that it was a keycard at all, actually). Also, by virtue of it being a GZDoom map, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be jumping/crouching. It's nice, just a little much for someone like me. I don't know if that's meaningful criticism because you may not be making a mod for someone like me. I can record some more demos of the later levels if you want them.

>> No.4980554

>a third character for La Tailor Girl, this time a buff lady
what about a cute boi?

>> No.4980562
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a trap would be welcome but I imagine the LTG dev is straight
a buff girl or a tomboy as the other anon suggested would be more approachable

>> No.4980571

Why is there no Quakebuilder, nor a worthy Build engine equivalent?

>> No.4980587

>Why is there no Quakebuilder
Is Trenchbroom not good enough for you? It can even make Hexen 2 maps.
>nor a worthy Build engine equivalent
Because most Build engine games did not release any source code, making developing editors for them very difficult (and many have significantly different map formats so eg. you can't just open a Blood map in Duke's Mapster).

>> No.4980591


the lion is yaldabaoth

>> No.4980595

A boy character for La Tailor Girl. With most costumes themed after various superheroes and shounen characters.
> Obvious comic book costumes: Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, etc.
> Shonen: Naruto, Luffy, Goku, etc.
> Some other anime genres, probably harem.
> Tokusatsu!
> > Ultraman, atleast one costume
> > Super Sentai/ Power Rangers outfits, probably only red ones?
> > Kamen Rider! Ichigo, Decade, Ex-Aid, etc.

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Honestly a cute enough trap I dont mind tho I'm not into it as much, a buff girl is also alright as long as its not over muscular
loli or shota character is out of question tho, but character that is petite overall and/or tomboyish would be okay.

However the thing is; It'd be third character, that would be way too much work

If I were to make third one, in most likely case it would be tomboyish not too shapey girl character that is shorter than both, and looks a bit androgynous and has some visible muscularity in the arms and abs, a short sporty girl.

but once more, third character is too much work with all the outfits in so far
Unless she'd get no outfit bonuses and was completely boring

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How the fuck do I play the Doom 2 Master Levels in Doomsday Engine/Jdoom?

>> No.4980649

Why would you want to use those source ports anyway?

>> No.4980671

I absolutely loved this game. Only thing I wish is that it had more enemies to fight but the four weapon limit didn't even bother me much at all. In fact it probably works well to the games benefit to have kept it to 4 weapons. Maybe 5 or 6 could have worked but the game was definitely balanced around each character not having a huge arsenal so anymore than 6 would have been redundant. Perhaps more characters to play as would have worked well though. I liked the necromancer and hunter in the wrath of cronos mod.

>> No.4980674

what're some good doom wads to play at 320x200 with keyboard only controls? getting bored of rekkr

>> No.4980678

Has anyone made a mod, where you can have all weapons with one hybrid class? Of course it should have more different kinds of ammo than just green and blue mana.

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>in most likely case it would be tomboyish not too shapey girl character that is shorter than both, and looks a bit androgynous and has some visible muscularity in the arms and abs, a short sporty girl.
I would be perfectly happy with that, if the day ever comes thats it, I just recently realized you even made made 3rd person models for every outfit when I was playing, that must be an insane amount of work

maybe you could do summons instead like Basilissa, but then again, its lot of work, its understandable
also milf

>> No.4980683

Some 90s wads maybe? https://www.doomworld.com/10years/bestwads/. Many people played with keyboard only back then.

>> No.4980691

Or even better, cute Doomgirl getting fingered and licked by demon girls.

>> No.4980694

I don't know actually since I haven't been playing it or many games at all lately. That would be a fun mod to play. You know if there are any wads for it where it has Doom style key hunts with levels instead of hub worlds and not switch pulling?

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>> No.4980702

Don't know about that either. Haven't actually played any Hexen mods at all. Just the original game and it's expansion as they are.

>> No.4980703

It's my favorite one.

>> No.4980707

Doesn't GZdoom have all their features nowadays?

>> No.4980714

What's your beef with it? I just like how its pure vanilla with nice dynamic lighting and color.

>> No.4980719

It's got this apparently.

>> No.4980720

That works too, let's make something for all the boys and girls, loli/shota or grown.

Boners for everyone!

>> No.4980721

>speaking of buff ladies: playable Basilissa in HND

What sort of playstyle would be good for her?

>> No.4980730

>the animations on those ettins
Jesus christ, that's awful, the Sapphire wand and serpent staff look great at least. Those torches look pretty good too.

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>The ettin model

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>> No.4980754

it sits at an even pace with the originals in regards to combat, maybe a bit faster. I didn't really feel any slower in it than I do on classic even though you're nowhere near as fast as og doomguy, but then again not everyone has the same playstyle.

>> No.4980758

You can find a better example of fast classic doom gameplay than that.

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>> No.4980772

did you uh, misquote?

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>> No.4980785

wow cool thanks for bringing up about the game outside of context for no reason whatsoever so as to make folk who like it look bad.

>> No.4980786

If you think I was saying doom 4 is classic doom then you might be retarded and desperately lacking in reading comprehension.

>> No.4980795

Those weapon models actually look pretty cool. But the enemies... Yeesh. It's hard to make good-looking character models in the first place, but then they get slapped into these rudimentary animations because of the engine's limitations. It's just going to look terrible no matter what.

>> No.4980819

you misposted this link twice lmao i was in that thread anon

>> No.4980821

So sorry I didn't get your out-of-context misquoted reply there buddy.

>> No.4980824


>classic doom rewritten from scratch to modern engine standards
>.bsp support
>16 rotations + up and down rotations
>improved ai (under water movement, ladders, etc)
>an unreal like mutator system to be able to load a gorillion mods at the same time without dividing the universe by zero

>> No.4980831

use trenchbroom you piece of niggu

>> No.4980832

>Out of context
It was in response to a chain about doom 4's speed vs doom I+II. I wasn't even saying Doom 4 was fast, I was saying you can find faster gameplay from the old games than the video I posted. Fucking retard.

>> No.4980848

In Doom 4 you can shoot 2 imps with a shotgun in the time it takes you to shoot one in the original. 3 if you count the burst fire upgrade. You can send yourself flying crazy fast by blasting your behind with the gauss cannon. It's so much faster it's not even funny. Your own video makes you a disservice. To claim the original is faster because of, I don't know, straferunning, is the most shallow possible viewpoint you could have.

Also, people are confused because you replied to a post talking about 3d hexen models instead of the reply chain you're talking about.

>> No.4980854

Don't talk shit, you accidentally replied to my Hexen post instead the relevant chain.

>> No.4980862

So nobody knows? I've scoured the entire fucking internet and haven't found a thing. This is driving me insane.

>> No.4980865

So you've identified who anonymous is, huh?

>> No.4980875

this anon is replying to the dude that killed 15 enemies in 23 microseconds

>> No.4980879

models should be the lowest poly possible and those animations sucks but not because engine limitations

>> No.4980896

Those giant tentacles in the sky in the city levels of Eternal. Are we going into Sandy's City?

>> No.4980898


>> No.4980901

Thoughts of an encounter vs multiple Mancubus where you're forced to pick up a blur sphere before entering their arena?

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You're a bad person if you do this.

>> No.4980905

incredibly rude
I'd wait out the blursphere if at all possible

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The actual arena has yet to be realized, but this is the basic idea. Running across stepping stones while invisible and having a gang of big guys shooting at you.

>> No.4980918

How did they fuck up so badly that a powerup is actually detrimental to the player?

>> No.4980920

It's great against hitscanners. Bad against projectiles

>> No.4980921

>Bad against projectiles
So most enemies then.

And they actually give you 4 of them in a level where there's no hitscanners at all.

>> No.4980923

I think at that point they're doing it intentionally to fuck with you.

>> No.4980924

I wonder, could D44M and, by extension, Eternal be a covert attempt at providing a thorough redpill on the entirety of the extent of HL1's influence over the FPS genre? To completely refute the corresponding ideology of FPS design, not leaving a single stone unturned?

>> No.4980934

I doubt that, they most certainly legitimately thought it was helpful. Because it CAN possibly help you and they most likely thought the barrage of 4 mancubi and later on arachnotron might be too much for the player, but more often than not you're better off not using it.

>> No.4980936

those aren't microseconds

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>> No.4980946

this is devilish

>> No.4980948

you are right anon, those are not microseconds and I suck cyberdemon cock

>> No.4980950

Bad against projectiles, but great against one of the most annoying enemies in the game.
Also people didn't really master the concept of both moving and shooting back in the 90s.

>> No.4980953

how would you call your retro fps?

>> No.4980954

>but great against one of the most annoying enemies in the game.
But, again, they're less common than regular projectile enemies and they even give you blurspheres around said enemies. It just reeks of lack of testing.

>> No.4980958

>I suck cyberdemon cock

>> No.4980964

well uh, I guess that's a way to take it. you do you.

>> No.4980982

Zandronum being updated, rising over GZDoom and ending Graf's reign.

>> No.4980983

what I meant to say was that the footage was a bit longer than the nudoom one

it mainly has to do with the fact that enemies soak up more damage, particularly the zombies. also the game doesn't throw many enemies your way in that specific portion

>> No.4980994

There's plans to have Zandronum be absorbed with GZDoom, actually. Graf will be forever in charge

>> No.4980995

The wttina are from another mod iirc. The animations have nothing to do with engine limitations, they're just shit.

The weapons look nice as hell, but a bit out of place. The animations on them could be a bit better too.

>> No.4980996

Fucking phone, what even is that.

>> No.4981034
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>colorful hell doesn't work properly with ancient aliens
Anyone know why this would be? It does the same thing with Sunlust as well.

>> No.4981037

AA and Sunlust change the color palette to achieve their visuals. BTSX does it too.

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>> No.4981045

looks brutal

>> No.4981074
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Just finished TNTR with Trailblazer and Colorful Hell
It was a wild ride, it started alright, by the middle it was a fucking joyful riot, and it kinda mellowed out at the end, I didnt like the last row of maps as much and I became way too powerful even playing at max difficulty and enabling shit like abyssal monsters, I got Bellenus spawning in one map and I just abused the slowmo elephant gun on his ass
I ended up drowning in scrap and ammo, and most of the weapons became kinda useless because the upgraded minigun is god, along with the elephant gun

still, it was great, now I wonder what else I should take for a spin

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>> No.4981085

>Just finished TNTR with Trailblazer and Colorful Hell
I once did that two times

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>> No.4981095

Yeah, whenever I try Trailblazer and Colorful Hell with anything I always end up just relying heavily on the shotgun that uses the yellow/orange ammo pickups since that ammo is just lying everywhere and it kills basically anything once it is fully upgraded. I still like it, but it usually ends up the same.

>> No.4981131

what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.4981137

I think they're off their face on something, since Doom 4 pulls the same shit of locking you in a room to shower you in exposition.

>> No.4981139

>the colorful hell patch doesnt work with the new guncaster update
am I the only one? fugg

>> No.4981162

Imagine being this butthurt about hl1 20 years later

>> No.4981171

don't encourage him

>> No.4981181

this is a doom thread, not a whatever the fuck bullshit you're talking about thread
there are other boards for your shit, notably /v/, where you can discuss new games to your heart's content

>> No.4981185

>colorful hell server
>progress grinds to a halt for like 10 minutes as a high level monster appears and keeps killing us

>> No.4981191

I guess I should just stick to 90s wads, shit made for keyboard+mouse is just 2fast4me when playing with arrow keys+ctrl. I was hoping there were some more throwbacky mods like REKKR but I guess the number of people playing doom without a mouse now is pretty low. Shame, since I'm on a laptop and the trackpad can suck all the shit straight out of my asshole.

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Would probably be at least pretty fun. MAP27 of Scythe forces you to take a blursphere and throws you into a fight with 3 cyberdemons, and it was cool.

>> No.4981204

he's an idiot but he's talking HL1.

>> No.4981205

Goddamn this QCDE shit is good, all this shit is so good, I fucking love this community to death, other shit can't hold a candle, I just wish it was bigger
Hopefully Eternal will bring more people in and they'll stick around

>> No.4981206

Why cant you just buy a mouse

>> No.4981208

>Goddamn this QCDE shit is good
first time I've seen /doom/ say something that isn't negative about that.

>> No.4981210

Precisely four seconds after I made this post everyone in the server called me gay and disconnected
you can't win em all folks

>> No.4981215

It just fucking blows my mind it even exists in the first place
You don't see the Elder Scrolls community porting Skyrim features over to Daggerfall do you?

>> No.4981218

ur gay

>> No.4981221

My desktop has a mouse, I don't disconnect it and take it with me when i'm on the go, but I do still want to play doom.

>> No.4981228

>Also people didn't really master the concept of both moving and shooting back in the 90s.

It's this. If you aren't good at moving and shooting, partial invisibility can help you because it'll be more likely than an enemy will miss you. Because you're good enough to be able to predict enemy attacks and move around them while shooting, it's a powerdown. Romero acknowledged it being a powerdown in one of the episodes of the LeBreton Devs Play of Doom.

>> No.4981234

You are a newfag, then.

>> No.4981249

ever since the first teaser trailer was posted all I've heard is complaints. when it came out people complained about how DBT is taking liberties, how he's wrong for not keeping it exclusive to id charactes, how anything he adds is worse by default because it's bloating no matter what it actually is.

>> No.4981253

>links to post specifically calling it cool

>> No.4981254

DMCA soon

>> No.4981257

check the replies, honey.

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>> No.4981259

That exact post you linked says it's cool.

Do you only care if it's 100% positive feedback or something?

>> No.4981262

so the fact that other people have criticized it means that positive posts don't exist





you fucking faggot

>> No.4981268

must have missed all that riveting amount of positivity all this time somehow then.

>> No.4981271

>This is the first time I have ever seen /doom/ say something not negative
>links a positive post

Some people like it, other people don't like it. I haven't played it, so I just don't post about it.
If you like it, then be the change you want to be, rather than making sweeping generalizations that you promptly disprove.

>> No.4981272

no, but it sure as hell is the majority, and that's just the teaser trailer. the actual complaints I listed in my posts are post-release, too, when people got to actually play it.

>> No.4981283

This goes along with the modern interpretation of Doom as something that should be played moving as fast as possible all the time because thats how it looks like when they see footage of people whoved played the game for decades and memorized everything. These same people are also playing with mouselook and not using the autoaim

>> No.4981285

>no, but it sure as hell is the majority
So? "A bunch of anonymous people say they don't like it" is probably one of the least damning problems I have ever heard on 4chan.

>> No.4981286

uh nevermind then i guess
i take back what i said it sucks dick

>> No.4981287

>>links a positive post
of a teaser trailer, one post, out of all the replies which are negative, why are you so keen on that one post?
when people say "americans are x", do you think they mean literally every single american? no, and when I say "/doom/" it doesn't mean every single person here, but rather specifically the people I've seen talk about the game and their complaints after playing it. if you haven't played it then naturally it doesn't apply to you.

>> No.4981291

When people say "X is Y", they generally mean "X is Y", I see no reason to try and look for a doublemeanings or hidden implications that they might not actually be saying, especially in this day and age.

>> No.4981293

I don't recall calling it a problem.

>> No.4981294

>why are you so keen on that one post?
because when you say "nobody does this" and then proceed to show an example of someone doing it, you're kind of undermining your own argument

>> No.4981305

Fair enough, that's a misread on my part.

>> No.4981306

>When people say "X is Y", they generally mean "X is Y",
but in this case x is a large group of people, whereupon your example doesn't exactly apply because when people talk about those they don't tend to mean literally everyone.

people say "americans are dumb" a lot, do you think they mean literally every single american is dumb?
I addressed this point in the very post you're reading.

>> No.4981309

Ignore that guy, he's just a racist

>> No.4981313

>they don't tend to mean literally everyone
>do you think they mean
No, but I think it means they're a person I don't care for talking to much. I don't want to talk to someone who doesn't actually mean what they say and backpedals after the fact.

Mind, that's just me.

>> No.4981314

I'm not a racist, I just think demons should be gunned down that's all.

>> No.4981316

nah m87 you cocked up and now are trying to bury it

just accept it my dude

>> No.4981332

but there was no backpedalling, this is just you for some reason thinking that when people talk about a large group of people they mean literally everyone in it and not just the people it applies to. it's basic knowledge. by your logic people cannot say "/doom/ likes doom" because there have been a few people around here who say they don't like it, and according to you, any mention of a group must be about every single member no matter how large it is instead of applying common sense and realizing that what I said naturally doesn't apply to people who don't even have an opinion on what QCDE plays like.

>> No.4981335

okay, ignore my posts then and keep covering your ears.

>> No.4981336

>by your logic people cannot say "/doom/ likes doom"
considering that there are a majority of people in here who don't like vanilla and play with wildly-changing gameplay mods, or prefer quake or build...

>> No.4981337

Need to remember that one

>> No.4981341 [DELETED] 

>this is just you for some reason thinking that when people talk about a large group of people they mean literally everyone in it and not just the people it applies to.

Fucking niggers being useless pieces of shit, right?

>> No.4981348

>by your logic people cannot say "/doom/ likes doom"
Keep in mind with this template this could also mean "/v/ likes vidya", which is in fact a blatant falsehood.

>> No.4981385

I don't think playing with mods means they don't like the original game by any means. This isn't Skyrim. People play with mods to spice things up and get new experiences.

People love the Ace Attorney series but it isn't exactly something known for its replay value. Instead people who want more play Ace Attorney Online.

>> No.4981405

yeah, that's true

at this point we're starting to post about posting about posting, though

>> No.4981418

Can we post revenants instead?

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>> No.4981471

Public info if anyone wants to know how it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qoljltPED8

>> No.4981575

Too bad Bethidsda had to design QC entirely around strafe jumping

>> No.4981583

i don't get it

>> No.4981597

Why don't you use alephone?
people still play the mp for it and I host games almost everyday

>> No.4981602

Just a random match to show that the game is not dead even after Quake Live and Champions, also, no maximum limit of 5x5 in a match.

>> No.4981631

I think he's referring precisely to that one.

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>> No.4981640

>not going full Shinobi Chileno on your foes

>> No.4981664

Thanks Skelegant. I never knew I needed this until now.


>> No.4981673

>doomguy isn't listening to AC/DC
it's like you aren't even a boomer

>> No.4981693

Just get a wireless one to bring with your laptop.

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>*cracks open a health bonus*
>Big gun, number one!

>> No.4981712

remember skulltag's runes?

any post-skulltag mod that uses them?

>> No.4981718

I remember Skulltag. Good times.

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is the doomsday engine any good?

>> No.4981765

is there any gameplay mods for the first Quake
preferably one that makes it more like Arcane Dimensions

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>> No.4981820

I wonder what became of the beta copies of the PSX port of Quake1?

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Zan is cute! CUTE!

>> No.4981827

>no body hair
who drew this, it ain't right

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>> No.4981837

where is the hair
did the artist sell out?

>> No.4981838
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>tries making a wad inspired by doom 1 maps but it's way too short
>tries making a wad that's open and has lots of puzzles but it's too boring and too long

>> No.4981840

he did h-doom stuff to begin with so...

>> No.4981851

dont you see the pink fluffy hair she has?
are you blind or retarded?

>> No.4981852


>> No.4981861

Boomguy is just Doomguy with extra features.

>> No.4981862

>but it's way too short
How short?

>> No.4981870
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>[08-13] Half-Life: Echoes released, a mod about experiencing Black Mesa from another perspective

Is it possible to play this with the non-steam version of hl?

>> No.4981891

that isn't the hair i want to see

>> No.4981897
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How is everyone going?

>> No.4981910


No, not at all. At the core, they are very different games that stand up on their own, for entirely different reasons.

>> No.4981913

thingken of quake

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>> No.4981934

he means chest hair you coon

>> No.4981943

pit hair, you mean
and happy trail

>> No.4981949

Use Champions then.

>> No.4981952

The horrific GUI put me off of it. Also the fact that it for some reason attracts universally terrible mods.

>> No.4981956

It's funny how I see more positive opinions about nuDOOM on /vr/ than /v/.

>> No.4981959

Newfags trying to act like oldfags (both in relation to 4chan and in their actual age and experience) while not having a single original or informed criticism of what they're shitposting about.
Nothing really that new or surprising.

>> No.4981965
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Thinking of GMOTA, eager to get working on this guy

>> No.4981968


I'm going well. Playing some visual novels.

>> No.4981978

>visual novels

>> No.4981986

Probably because as /doom/ as shooter lovers, mostly recognize nuDoom as not-shit, some love it, some think it's good but flawed, and some think it's just ok.
Not everyone loves it, but few people here outright hate it.

I think it partially stems from people having extremely limited expectations on Doom 4 and didn't expect it to be any good at all. Few people expected anything great, many expected it to be really bad, so people were kind of pleasantly surprised that it's not bad.
There's legit criticisms to levy at the game, a few serious ones (the lock-in arena combat is the big one), but if you consider the drawn out development and the restarts, it came out surprisingly good, many other shooters with troubled development and having essentially their whole progress reset multiple times, have not been nearly as lucky, Duke Nukem Forever being the horror example (though in fairness, Doom 4 was mostly developed in quiet, while DNF was hyped for over a decade, meaning there were a LOT of expectations to fail to live up).

I think what can be said is that Doom 4 is objectively "Not Bad", and then beyond that it's very subjective, nothing appeals to everyone, and some things are particularly liked by many, but not all.
Meanwhile, /v/ is densely populated by underageb&s, so of course they have fucking horrible opinions and tastes.

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Waiting for ~3,600 sprites to process so I can finish a stupid mod.

>> No.4981990


Yes, that is what I wrote.

>> No.4982006
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Testing some stuff for a potential new project.

>> No.4982010

>Few people expected anything great, many expected it to be really bad, so people were kind of pleasantly surprised that it's not bad.
You can blame the marketing and terrible multiplayer beta for that

>> No.4982014
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I recognize that stained glass.

>> No.4982016

Got a cold, the second time this summer, barely got over the first.

Yay fucking me.

>> No.4982018

looks spooky
i am very intrigued

>> No.4982024

I'm making my very first mod, and I'm at a point where I either have no time or I just procrastinate and make no progress

>> No.4982025

Been feeling particularly creative these past few days, making a vanilla map. Hopefully it's done so I can release it in time for my birthday today.

>> No.4982039

so how many people prefer playing a vanilla style map, or prefer playing something that uses a ton of GZDoom effects?

personally I can't really get into those latter maps, I like the short, sweet, and to the point maps where you run in, gun shit down, solve some puzzles for the keys to the exit, all that classic doom goodness that doesn't involve a huge open map that focuses on being pretty and trying to be a whole new game that doom wasn't meant to be. or anything like doom 2's middle part.

>> No.4982046

I prefer Boom maps the most, they let you do a bit more than Vanilla, but doesn't get too bogged down in complexity, for the most of it.

>> No.4982047

Happy Birthday, Anonymous.

>> No.4982050 [DELETED] 

why did i get a ban for asking a question about a wad?

>> No.4982123


>> No.4982125 [DELETED] 

mods are faggots
prove me wrong

>> No.4982126

>DRLA 2.0 finally being released
>Zandro 4.0, with final ZDoom support and 2.2-2.3 GZDoom support AND with actually properly working netcode.
>Odamex is actually alive, and not dead
>Competitive scene will finally become alive once again and such modes as DM, TDM, CTF, LMS, TLMS, DOM, POS, TPOS and all other modes, besides PvE modes will finally get played as often as PvE modes.
>Graf will finally get competent and stop being so fucking autistic
>Doom Eternal is actually eternally good and not eternally shitty
Dunno what else I'd wish for

>> No.4982130

I'm mostly fine. Though right leg hurts for no reason
Reading Silver Age DC Comics.

>> No.4982165

complex doom clusterfuck

>> No.4982169

What happened

>> No.4982175

think caleb walking out from his grave except he's a faggot.

>> No.4982181


>> No.4982204

> SUPERnatural gets full release in time for halloween
> insanity edged too

>> No.4982239 [DELETED] 

they banned me for asking why do people form these threads hate brutal doom

>> No.4982241

This is all true. Even if the only thing Carmack gave to gaming was flexible, extensive modding, we would still be forever indebted to him.

>> No.4982257

Several reasons.

1. Anybody who's aware of the Doom modding scene outside of the scene itself is mostly just aware of Brutal Doom. In terms of visibility, it's all but saturated the environment. It's a real shame because there's plenty of great mods out there that are just as good as, if not better than, Brutal Doom, that don't get the attention they deserve.

2. Plenty of people coming into the scene through Brutal Doom only know about Brutal Doom. While this isn't every Brutal Doom Neophyte, there are plenty that will demand up and down that your own gzdoom mod, megawad, whatever be compatible with Brutal Doom, even if it makes no sense to put the two together. Demonsteele protested against this by shitting out golden tiny revenants everywhere if you have both loaded at the same time.

3. Sgt Mark IV, the mod's creator, is an enormous asshole who's gotten himself banned from every Doom community haven you can get banned from. A lot of people in the Doom modding scene have personal grudges against him because of how he's behaved.

I'm probably missing some but number 1 is the big one IMO.

>> No.4982258

Honestly, by this point, posts like that are just spam.

>> No.4982263

but i just want to know why did i get banned

>> No.4982264

I can absolutely guarantee you that anon is not posting in good faith, "buh wuh suh bad buh muh brudal" is such a generic and transparent bait attempt it's just sad.

>> No.4982265


>> No.4982269
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Like this guy >>4982258 said, we have someone ask this every so often and we provide the same answers time and time again. Sometimes it's people genuinely wondering why, most of the time it's just some jackass trying to start more shit.
It gets pretty fucking tiresome.

>> No.4982272

well i genuinely asked

>> No.4982276

I'd really like to go back to bed and not being a fucking wageslave

>> No.4982278

You've got your answer then.

>> No.4982283


>> No.4982285

thanks,now i know why everyone hates him

>> No.4982291

has anyone tried the horror conversion wad?

>> No.4982293
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>i can't take this anymore

>> No.4982294

There was also that one time he wanted to use actual irl gore in his mod, even saying how great it looks.

>> No.4982298
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I don't hate him. I hate his crappy attitude and his blind, overzealous, retarded fanbase. I hate how he's just spinning his wheels with Brutal Doom just tacking on random features rather than finishing it for good and moving on. But I guess at this point he's damned himself to work on it for pretty much forever, he's now just known as "The Brutal Doom guy" and I'm pretty sure his fanbase would drop him if he worked on something else that wasn't Brutal ______
In a way I pity him because he's backed himself into a creative corner, where he will stay there and stagnate, maybe he's complacent where he's at, which would make this even more pitiable.
Complacency is a fate worse than death for anyone that makes stuff.

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I'm done. Play it and tell me about it.

>> No.4982346

on prboom+ complevel9:
-the two pinkies in the first monster closet are stuck
-HOM in the chaingun secret
-the furthermost-back revenant in the slime doesn't get activated
-you can get on top of the slime via the ledge. It doesn't hurt you, and then you get stuck if you go down to shoot at the mancubi
-after killing all the mancubi the exit door doesn't open(?)
-return-to-start teleport has backwards linedef tag thingy (you reverse over it to activate it)

>> No.4982350
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Latey i been playing "nun with a gun" and it's pretty fun and all but i need other kind of music to set the tone correctly, something like the music on "Preacher"
any suggestions? please help

>> No.4982352

and for the map itself, it's bretty gud for a vanilla-style map. but...
-Too much ammo. it's ezpz on UV
-which, is partly due to how most of the encounters are 'optional'. you can run past most of the enemies (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)
-that RL secret is neato
-needs more varied lighting! texturework is good, but most stuff is lit the same-ish

>> No.4982362

ignore that part about lighting, I had my contrast cranked up playing CSGO

>> No.4982389

does gameplay in black mesa feel like complete total ass or is it just me?

the guns all feel awful, the enemies are irritating to fight and everything just feels off. half the time I'd rather just boot up xash3d to get my HL fix.

>> No.4982423

I went through and fixed the glitches while tweaking a few things like ammo placement.

>> No.4982434

That may be the case but I think it's good to address these points for those who may be actually wondering why, but didn't ask.

>> No.4982573

Doom Movies based on the novels, I want Flynn Taggart on the big screen god dammit

>> No.4982581
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I want Chickentard to be assassinated. And then I want for either Zandronum to update with all of GZDoom's current features and be worked on from there, or for GZDoom's C/S implementation to be finished as well as Chickentard's disgusting mess to be thoroughly cleansed from the source port. Either way, if the ball was in my court, I would count how many suggestions received a [No], and the final sum would equate to how many stabs that old cranky chickenshit would be getting from me. And believe me, I'd venture to say that number would easily be a triple-digit one, and therefore he will perish.

>> No.4982590

Open your Half Life autoexec.cfg and add
GL_texturemode GL_Nearest

>> No.4982596

Noone should use those filters unironically either

>> No.4982659

Fucking chicken man and his filters.

>> No.4982665

I'm doing okay, just playing Legendoom with Colorful Hell on 'Maps of Chaos'
How about you, anon, how are you going?

>> No.4982667

You won't ever do it and you won't ever have the balls or skill to fork GZDoom either.

>> No.4982668

You forgot Champions, Demon Counterstrike, and the sc55 music pack for Doom 2.

>> No.4982674

do these all work together?

>> No.4982679


>> No.4982685
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When and where did I say I'd fork GZDoom?
When and where did I say that I would be the one assassinating the chickenscum?
You're quite the confusing one, Anon.

>> No.4982692

>Either way, if the ball was in my court, I would count how many suggestions received a [No], and the final sum would equate to how many stabs that old cranky chickenshit would be getting from me. And believe me, I'd venture to say that number would easily be a triple-digit one, and therefore he will perish.

>> No.4982697

It's not nice to wish death upon another person.

>> No.4982705

The keyword here is "if." That last part is admittedly just a pipe dream, anyhow.
That's your opinion.

>> No.4982709

Just wish away his autism
unless that's what makes him able to be a programmer in the first place, in which case, get rid of the bad part of his auts

>> No.4982714

well what's he gonna do, [No] away the assassin's knife? :^)

>> No.4982724

Horrible atmosphere.

>> No.4982726

someone recc me a difficult megawad

I haven't played doom in two months

>> No.4982728

Maps of Chaos-Overkill Edition

>> No.4982732


>> No.4982737

I want Hecatomb: Beyond Hexen.

>> No.4982750

Were the doom novels any good in spite of it derailing hard from original doom?

>> No.4982751
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Can we get a shader like this?
I wanna play some doom while high

>> No.4982756

I've only read the first one and it was pretty accurate, right down to the swastika in e1m4

>> No.4982765

>2000 youtube wad
also try this

>> No.4982776

Anon is working on a Deep Dream mod.

>> No.4982779
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what is a good weapons/character/inventory/gameplay mod that doesnt touch the enemies so it can be played with brutal doom monsters only?
I have already played doom incarnate, trailblazer and furry barney dragon shit mod
I want something with a good fucking arsenal

>> No.4982787

High noon drifter.

>> No.4982792

Is the infographic broken for anyone else?

>> No.4982793

I dont really play online
Whats an accepable ping?
Most servers are in the 200 range and I dont want to shit up the matches

>> No.4982798

Inventing a story from where the original plot and narrative basically is like the fine trim on the edges, I think the first one does a pretty decent job.

>> No.4982805

Russian overkill is extremely stupid, silly, and amazing

>> No.4982819

already played both of those
I just want something really simple and straightforward with weapons that have a lot of kick and satisfying shooting

>> No.4982823

does final doomer or samsara work?

>> No.4982828
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Legendoom is pretty good. But Brutal Doom's "quality" coding might get in the way.

>> No.4982859


thought I was the only one.

>> No.4982867

I don't code, can someone explain why this is bad?

>> No.4982890

Just look how the code Indentation is, a.k.a none.

>TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIf on first frame
>Engine ignores every action defined in the very first frame of Spawn state unless NoDelay keyword is used
Gud code.

>> No.4982894

I can enjoy either. I don't think using GZDoom effects inherently means having bad level design. And often times vanilla maps are just boring because they're too standard and don't have especially good level design.

>> No.4982898

1: +CLIENTSIDEONLY actors ignore the first frame when they spawn. His A_JumpIf never happens.
2: All of the defined sprites are 0-duration, i.e. nothing ever appears.
3: Multiple completely unnecessary flags, like +CORPSE.
4: Multiple completely unnecessary parameters, like defining "game Doom".
5: This is really just the icing on the shit cake but holy shit that indentation.

So what we've got is an actor in which half of it doesn't work, the other half doesn't appear, bloated with needless parameters and flags, arranged in a barely-readable format.

>> No.4982902

What is it called?

>> No.4982914

it loops at least, but there's a bunch of other shit
>is set up to be a projectile (+MISSILE, +NOBLOCKMAP, +NOTELEPORT), but also has monster properties (health, +CORPSE)
>has +THRUACTORS so it won't ever hit anything, but still specifies damage, damagetype, +NODAMAGETHRUST, and +BLOODLESSIMPACT
>has +FORCEXYBILLBOARD, scale 1.1, renderstyle translucent, and alpha 0.7, but the only frame with any duration is TNT1 A 1, which is completely invisible
>"game Doom' for an actor which is never going to be placed on the map, and can't be even if you wanted to for some reason
>"XDT1 EFGHIJK 0" literally does nothing but waste time

in other words, 80% of this thing is pointless and is indicative of someone who has no idea what they're doing

1 is misleading; it's not that the first state in Spawn won't ever run, it's that the action tied to their starting state is ignored when it's first spawned (which applies to all actors, not just +CLIENTSIDEONLY). it'll run when it loops.

>> No.4982919

Don't all actors skip the first line of code in their spawn definition when they initially spawn? And wouldnt it call the check when it loops?

>> No.4982920 [SPOILER] 
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what am I doing

>> No.4982923


>> No.4982924

>it'll run when it loops
Ah, yes, my mistake. I completely missed that.

>> No.4982928

Trying to get people's attention by acting aloof.

>> No.4982931


>> No.4982937

as an aside: if you override BeginPlay in zscript and have it do a state jump, that *will* run immediately unless you set the second argument (nofunction) to true
it'd probably be wise to do that, because some ACS scripts will spawn an item to read things off of it (size data, speed, etc), then immediately delete it, and if you start messing with the game immediately in BeginPlay, that could lead to some very, very weird problems

>> No.4982940

>it'd probably be wise to do that
brutal doom is zandro-compat, he couldn't do that even if he wanted to (and he wouldn't, his code is perf and critics are jelly!!!!!)

>> No.4982946

horror conversion

>> No.4982953

Finally someone stepped in to the challenge
Hope more peoply try their own spin, the puns fucking write themselves

>> No.4982959

gimme some puns i'm turning up dry

>> No.4982979
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for starters DOOM=BUN

now lets have some fun and think difficulty options, I recall we did this last time


>> No.4982982


My mod's not gonna look like that, but I may be able to replicate those images via

>a postprocess shader that adjusts the hue based on height
>a custom shader applied to all textures that changes the hue based on w coordinates (depth)
>the above, but instead of being done in GZDoom it's done through a shader injector like Reshade.

No promises though.

>> No.4983003

Are you actually trying to make furry doom?

>> No.4983008


Pillowblaster already did that

>> No.4983013

Im not the same poster so I dont really know what hes trying to do

>> No.4983020

Then why the fuck did you even reply?

>> No.4983032
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no. I just love worlds with anthropomorphized animals like lugaru or redwall but it's a shame 99% of the content out there gives them fat asses and big tiddies and shit. I just love the idea of a violent herbivore shooting down wolves and rats with an AK

health bonuses = flowers
stimpaks = carrots
medikits = heads of lettuce

>> No.4983036

you seem to misunderstand
think it over a little

>> No.4983047
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I feel you, I have a thing for furshit but I really appreciate when something good comes around that does not rely at all in that stuff
have you read Mouse Guard? if you like Redwall you will love it its fucking amazing

>berserk pack lets you jump on enemies mario style

>> No.4983050

> anthropomorphized animals
What the fuck do you think furry means?

>> No.4983057

What about soulspheres?

>> No.4983060

You are not in control of the conversation, faggot, anyone can respond to anything they want.

>> No.4983061
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I am working on something and I want my custom imp to be able to walk on small solid decorations, like this placeholder stalagmite that has low height, but even with +canpass and +actlikebridge flags, imp refuses to go through them, even if closed off in his very own playpen.
are there any other flags I can use to make that obstacle solid, but walkable for monsters, or if I could tell imp to disregard them and walk over?

>> No.4983069

>Goldeneye Bunker 2
>Remember that I had trouble with this level back when I first played it
>Watch a guy playing the level by mostly using knives
>Try the same but fail every time
>Watch Vinny simply shooting everyone in sight.
>Do the same thing,wasn't that difficult at all.

Why the knives suck so much? They basically bounce on the enemies.

Some of the objectives are not really clear.Like the later level Statue.
You're supposed to meet Janus, it says objective failed despite not doing anything wrong.
In the end it turns out that you don't have to wield any weapon when you meet him.
How are you supposed to figure that out?

>> No.4983070

i think it's safe to say that furry animals are mostly shaped like humans with animal features like noses or tails or that sort of thing. i'm talking like watership down anthropomorphism where they're more animal than human.

i have not, thanks very much for the recommendation friend. i still have to read watership down, i actually read the book "the private life of the rabbit" which is what richard adams used to model his rabbit behavior off of

>> No.4983072

fuck you this is my general now
first rule of order, cacodemons are banned

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>> No.4983089

That doesn't mean I can't be annoyed when someone replies for the sake of replying.

>> No.4983094

> ignores the top tier map design of the original

>> No.4983095

soulspheres and megaspheres can be... apples? oranges? pears? can rabbits eat fruit? whatever. there can he hedges around the maps that the player can munch on over time to restore health like duke nukem's water fountains

>> No.4983106
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the soulsphere could be heart locket with a photo of your murdered pet doomguy
megasphere can be...his collar?

>> No.4983128

What about a lucky human foot

>> No.4983167

New thread when?
Make OP and Pic bunny related

>> No.4983169

I think so? Im pretty sure the author answered that question somewhere in the comments on moddb

>> No.4983172


>> No.4983175
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Almost there boys.
I love the swaying bridge effect btw. Looks even better in low-res.

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yes please

>> No.4983185

>new guncaster wont work with patched colorful hell
>wont work with champions either
dammit pillow

>> No.4983190
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Wow, the Korax battle was 10x easier than I remembered it being. Didn't even have time to get a screenshot of the ugly fucker.
Also, I don't understand why Chocolate Hexen renders in 320x200 and upscales to 1360x768 for my screen, but saves screenshots as 1600x1200.

>> No.4983219
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Now to replay its sequel. What a beautiful-looking game.

>> No.4983237

I'm so sick of furries, can we NOT, for once?

>> No.4983238

the chocolate setup has an option to save all screenshots at that resolution in order to preserve the aspect ratio

>> No.4983242 [DELETED] 

Still reeling from a few days ago? I understand, I've suffered heavily from emotional problems in the past. Every time I don't flip out somehow is a major step, however minor.

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>> No.4983254

As long is not porn,what's the problem?

>> No.4983259 [DELETED] 

don't enable him, he'll just derail the thread with his buttblast like he did last week.

>> No.4983270
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this one had me chuckle

>> No.4983272

Maybe there's more than one person who doesn't like it.

There's always a pornographic angle with furries.

>> No.4983276
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well the original poster didnt say anything about using a literal furry pic
Daisy is very much Doom related so a real bunny would be no issue

>> No.4983297

I ain't gonna throw a big fit like the other guy and make several dozens of posts, I'm just voicing my displeasure at furry stuff being flaunted around here openly, recently.
If next OP pic is another anthro pic, you can be sure, I'll just resent it in quiet.

>> No.4983303 [DELETED] 

backseat moderator doing his hardest again, one day he'll be accepted......

>> No.4983306 [DELETED] 

>i posted it again!

>> No.4983307 [DELETED] 

yes you did! good for you! one day, the jannies might evne listen to your "forgot a few". :)

>> No.4983316

Still, what I don't understand is why HL's release seemingly coincided with a very sharp cutoff point for "Doom-style" shooters, moreover, why it was Doom-style shooters specifically, that were affected.

Like, it isn't about cinematography, Craig Hubbard's Monolith games existed quite independently of HL (as proven by Shogo which couldn't have possibly been affected by HL in any major way), were quite distinct from it in containing little to no puzzle elements and humongous attempts at "show, don't tell" - and they pretty much didn't affect jack shit in the genre. So did (or rather didn't) Goldeneye007, the extent of influence of which ended with the first two Medal of Honor-s (as well as the in-house "spiritual sequel"). Jedi Knight was, well, it was probably quite big AND cinematic AND pre-HL, but it didn't affect jack either.

Halo, which was a part of a completely alternate FPS design branch, founded with Pathways into Darkness (with the omission of Marathons which WERE explicitly influenced by Doom), again, pretty much regarded HL1 as if it didn't ever exist, did its own thing and basically carved its own largely HL-independent niche in the genre.

It was specifically Doom-style shooters that were affected the most with HL1's release and explosive success. Even the shooters explicitly stating to be "return to the roots" were, on a closer inspection, changed in radical ways, arena focus and such. The only, and I mean, ONLY places preserving the 90s spirit through all this time seemed to be the usermap communities.

Like, I'd even argue this had nothing to do with Daikatana enormous "success" either, the subgenre was a rotting corpse by that time already.

Why and what the fuck happened? Doesn't anyone just find that whole thing (as well as the specificity of what it affected) excessively weird?

>> No.4983332

>There's always a pornographic angle with furries
Sure,but as I said,everything related with Daisy or anthro rabbits in Doomguy's armor were far from being pornographic and are meant to be cute.

>> No.4983365

I guess because cinematic games looked extremely impressive then, Half-Life doing a particularly good job compared to most others, while still being fast paced action.
Looking at Half-Life 2, it was far more cinematic, and while I think it's a good game, I don't think it's nearly as strong as the first one, just because how much more linear and less explorative it became. It wowed the shit out of me at the time, the graphics were mind blowing (and still don't look awful), along with physics, and a gun to use them, a feature unbelievably novel to me.
With a more mature perspective though, I find I look back at the first one and find its levels much more interesting and fun, even if some of the graphics actually look really crude (though I think the HD models look very nice still).

Some of it can also be traced to 'realistic' WW2 shooters getting rolling, many of those aped the style of Saving Private Ryan and Band Of Brothers, both extremely popular at the time, and was part of the public's increased fascination in the war.
This was a pretty significant factor, and you could see its effect in WW2 artifacts and memorabilia, surplus guns began climbing price, as much more people realized a lot of them were really nice or cool, for instance, a transferable MG42 machinegun could go for as little as a few thousand dollars (today, easily over $20000), a lot of people looked at German stuff, thinking "Eww, Nazi", and it wasn't always easy to sell one to just any collector or shooter, or American M1 Carbines, nice condition, just a few hundred dollars, but eeeh, maybe some other time; today a nice condition one can easily be $1000
You also had people like the Aryan Brotherhood counterfeiting Nazi memorabilia to sell at gunshows (one of the many reasons they stopped being allowed to set up shop there as time went).
It isn't even getting into The History Channel transforming into The Hitler Channel, lord knows that warped people's perception of the war.

>> No.4983393

That is quite natural, considering that the "throw the monitor away" schtick (as well as all the EXPLICIT narrative-level subversion that branched from it) fell in place at pretty much the last possible moment. AT BEST, D44M, even if I am correct about my hunch, ended up being on "now I have the actual enemy in my sights" to-be-continued note.

Still, there was Cloud's Call of Doom. It was developed for what? 5 years? 4? 6? A shitload of time regardless. Then they basically say "What the actual fuck are we doing?", the whole thing reboots. It isn't Classic Doom either, not with the combat being explicitly adapted from Q3's deathmatches, it just tries to seem like one. The only identity there is seems to be like not to be a Call of Doom.

Somehow, the whole thing clicks together in a completely unprecedented way pretty much noone in their right mind ever expected to happen.

Like, what the actual fuck? What is happening? What am I even looking at?

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Just now noticed that the spiders have the Quake symbol on their bellies.
Also why the fuck does the Hammer Of Tyrion sourceport save screenshots as TGA files...

>> No.4983410

Fucking love necroman.

>> No.4983426

I guess it's a bit like with Quake, where the development was a sordid mess stalling for months, before they rushed to piece it together into a Doom-ish shooter, rather than the originally intended (and completely different) open world RPG.
This kind of cycle can easily make for a *heinously* awful game, but I think it speaks for the skill and dedication of the guys back then, that they pulled through and made that mess into a good game, and in spite of high tensions.

20ish years later, Doom 4's development is a mess of its own kind, but most of the people who made Quake are gone or soon leave.
That they turn it into a game that's actually pretty good (if flawed), I think speaks for the new people's talents and skills, because once a development reaches a certain point down this kind of path, it can be hard to salvage.
How it also runs so smoothly on PCs, I assume is because Carmack always took issue with so many modern programmers lacking any kind of problem solving skills and only knew how to work the Unreal engine (his words, not mine), so I figure he made sure to train up and drill these people to get real good at their job, out of pure principle.

>> No.4983453

So far he's about 1000 times better than the stupid Assassin. I couldn't even beat the game as her, got stuck in the beginning of hub 2.

>> No.4983460

I beat Hexen 2 as the Assassin, which I picked because her weapons aside from the starting one vaguely reminded me of Heretic's weapons, particularly the crossbow.
I don't remember what I thought about the whole experience afterwards.

>> No.4983494

I dont know shit about what you typed, but that picture I can get behind. fuck willits and hail hugo!

>> No.4983506

Whoever in the last thread said "don't tell them" when i mentioned how creeped out i was getting in the sunken ship level... I think i just made it to the level you were inferenceing
jesus goddamn christ

>> No.4983543

i highly doubt the price of ww2 guns went up because of films like saving private ryan. weapons like mausers and mosins just recently shot up in price simply because, uh... they're surplus guns. nobody's making any more of them. they have a very set and clear finite supply. when supply goes down, their price goes up.

>> No.4983557
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>somebody added VR support to gzdoom
>works with Heretic
This is amazing, I haven't had so much fun in a while

>> No.4983563

Yeah, and WW2 fiction accelerated that.
Stuff like Mausers, Enfields and Mosins stayed cheaper for longer, because they were some of the most plentiful guns, being the bread and butter of their nation's infantry weapons, the Mosin Nagant in particular, seeing something like 40+ million guns made, and modern 7.62x54mmR surplus being available for so cheap for such a long time.

>> No.4983564

I'll add this to my negative 999 reasons to buy a VR headset.

>> No.4983570

I dislike VR myself, as my eyes just get fucked from using it, but I think it's cool as hell that someone made it possible with Doom/Heretic.

How's it feel with VR with sprites and stuff, do they come across as more uncanny and flat, or do you quickly get used to it?

>> No.4983574

Might break out my Rift for this
does it support motion controls?

>> No.4983578

It's okay anon, that scared the hell out of me too

>> No.4983581

what wad are we talking about here
i gotta check this out

>> No.4983595

Golden Souls 2

>> No.4983597
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>How's it feel with VR with sprites and stuff, do they come across as more uncanny and flat, or do you quickly get used to it?
They're fine, I haven't really been bothered by them at all. They don't really feel any flatter than they do when playing normally. It's only strange when you're looking at them from right straight above, but then again that's not VR-specific.

Yeah, it does for aiming. That's what really makes this so much fun.

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>call it a wad
>it's actually a pk3

>> No.4983606

pk3s are essentially compressed wads.
Stop wasting time by splitting hairs.

>> No.4983610

You're forced to suffer through my bad sense of humor until you make a new thread

>> No.4983613

uh oh, something bothering you?

>> No.4983614

> supposed to be a joke
Wow, you really do have a shitty sense of humor

>> No.4983618

I still don't see a new thread, kid.

>> No.4983620

What part of stop wasting peoples time did you not get?

>> No.4983639

Well if you ever get up to a positive, I'd recommend the windows MR headsets (dell visor, or the lenovo explorer). They're pretty much just half-price rifts.

>> No.4983642

check out the absolute ruler over here. shut up.

>> No.4983645

mom and dad fighting again?

>> No.4983646

pk3s aren't compressed wads. they have folders.
wads don't have folders.

hmmm, actually... I'm writing a wad format extension that is compressed and has folders, so maybe...

>> No.4983658

literally same guy though

>> No.4983659

>pk3s are essentially compressed wads.
No. They're literally just renamed zip files. Wads are a totally different file format.

>> No.4983662


add cdn2



please, add cdn2 to the respective links

>> No.4983665

I don't really play doom online but I think 80 is the limit

>> No.4983681


>In the end it turns out that you don't have to wield any weapon when you meet him.
>How are you supposed to figure that out?

by reading what he says?, he literally tells you to put the gun away

>> No.4983684

> /pofg/
no thank you
/hmofa/ is where it's at

>> No.4983685

Im to drunk to get what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.4983713

Is it worth including lilith under level packs in the doom infographic?

>> No.4983724

Maybe under the historically notable section. Then again, maybe not.

>> No.4983734

>Then again, maybe not.

I've played too much goddamn Hexen.

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>> No.4983782

Greetings Mortal, are you ready to dial?

>> No.4983816

For a good time, call D'Sparil.

>> No.4983820

Which helped/hurt the community more - Doom 2016 or Brutal Doom?

>> No.4983829

Your mom, for not aborting you.

>> No.4983842


>> No.4983849
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Already got to the 3rd hub (of 5). This game goes pretty fast when you know exactly what to do and have a notebook of maps.

>> No.4983850

I'm going to have to go with Brutal Doom

>> No.4983857

your bullshit

>> No.4983875

and his grandma
for not aborting his mother

>> No.4983892

but did it help or hurt the community

>> No.4983893

what the fuck

>> No.4983909

jokes aside, D44M just opened to door for an improved sequel, whether or not they are going to deliver is anyones guess,Im eagerly waiting for mods with the hook shotgun

BD? I dunno, you can talk about the fanbase and its influence but at the end of the day it made a lot of people aware that Doom is still very much alive and kicking
progressively those people get funneled into the good stuff, if they dont stick to just BD

>> No.4983992

New thread.


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