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Well, I did it. I shelled out the ~$500 over the last few years pretty lackadaisically in order to try and recover my childhood. So, I have an n64, the newest and best flash cart to play every game, and even got my friend to solder-in the HDMI board. It is officially the pinnacle of N64 technology and

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meh. The nostalgia-tinted glasses were too high a prescription. Mario 64 is one of the greatest games of all time, but after that it's just lacking. Goldeneye aged like milk. Mario Kart doesn't have the fucking music playing if you're 3 players or up. Honestly, the only thing good is Mario Party 3 with friends, but 20 turn minimum is fucking nuts when you just want to play for half an hour.

In retrospect, it's like all emulator business, in that it's fun to set up and max out everything you're doing, but the games at the end of the day just aren't that fun. Just buy a Nintendo Switch.

>> No.4952017 [DELETED] 

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why 5th gen ought to be banned from /vr/. Along with everything else afterward in perpetuity.
>w-when will muh childhood become retro!
And they don't even like it.

>> No.4952023

There just aren't that many great N64 games. I don't regret getting my Genesis everdrive or my modded PS1 at all.

>> No.4952030

>>4951998
OP, you're a massive faggot.
Just stick to Fortnite.

>> No.4952038

>>4952030
read the file name.

>> No.4952041

oh look, is the "let's shit on the n64" season again.

>> No.4952043

>>4952038
When you come to Los Angeles you can suck my cock

>> No.4952046

>>4952023
I think that might be the case. I've already played the first party games to death, so pretty much the only ones I still play on there are Mario Party 3 and Super Mario 64. The 3rd party lineup I used to rent from Blockbuster are mostly lackluster playing them again.

>>4952017
>>4952030
Thanks for the input.

>> No.4952048
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I play N64 with composhit and use pic related.

>> No.4952057

>>4952048
Honestly, I kind of with I took out the old 36" CRT and hooked it up, but this is more for convenience and I'm running it on a projector screen with the Ultra HDMI set for scanlines and full gamma with bars on the sides.

>> No.4952183

>>4951998
It's really not that good of a console. Once you venture outside its handful of ultra-famous games, it's all trash. Should've gone with an SNES instead.

>> No.4952223

>>4952183
Yeah, but I could probably just get that rerlease with the HDMI out if I really wanted.

>> No.4952243
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>>4951998
>Goldeneye aged like milk

If you age milk long enough it becomes a fine cheese, friendo

>> No.4952251

>>4952243
That's not how video games or cheese work.

>> No.4952253

>>4952243
GoldenEye: Source plays almost exactly the same and most of the servers are empty. It was fun when it was new but now there's better shooters.

>> No.4952259

>>4952243
>>4952251
Did you find all the cheese in Perfect Dark which makes GoldenEye redundant after you unlock all the GoldenEye weapons and enable classic crosshair?

>> No.4952267

>>4951998

Maybe you just don't like video games very much? I just picked up Top Gear Rally for N64 for about $3, and I've been having a blast.

>> No.4952274

>>4952223
do it

>> No.4952280

>>4952259
Well, they also made a Perfect Dark total conversion mod for Goldeneye, as well as a fan-made Goldfinger based on the Perfect Dark engine.

>> No.4952281

>>4952259
Goldeneye would be redundant if Perfect Dark didnt run like ass on an n64 or the 360 sticks were more sensitive.

>> No.4952284

>>4952280
Goldfinger is a mod of goldeneye not perfect dark.

>> No.4952303

>>4952243
Is that a fucking Videlectrix picture?

>> No.4952307

>>4952267
Actually, I'm fucking loving Splatoon 2. At this point the N64 is kind of a thing I boot up with friends, but we're pretty much just switching off Mario Party 3 and Super Mario 64. Maybe we'll try out some Diddy Kong Racing, NBA Hangtime, NFL Blitz, or some fighting game. Another thing is that the Everdrive does have a custom dashboard update with several working emulators (not working very well) and we could revisit some Gameboy games. I know the N64's hardware is shit architecture for emulation, but it's still something worth looking into to maximize what I can get out of it.

That or I'll mod my Wii which I've never gotten around to, and finally play some of the classics I missed out on like Super Mario Galaxy 2.

>> No.4952309

>>4952284
I stand corrected.

>> No.4952431

>>4952307
Forgot to say, Gauntlet Legends is also badass. And I have the expansion pack/four controller save packs to make it work.

>> No.4952442
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>>4951998
it's probably the most overrated library out there, coming from somebody who usually likes nintendo consoles. the prices are also seriously inflated too because it's the hot nostalgia item these days. it's worth playing mario 64 and mario party, but the rest of the library is underwhelming or better on other platforms. you're better off with a NES or SNES if you want nintendo stuff or a
Saturn or PS1 if you want 32 bit stuff.

>> No.4952465

>>4952442
The Saturn is just as bad. It has two or three really good games, some iffy arcade ports, and not a whole lot else.

>> No.4952485

>>4951998
Perfect Dark is like Goldeneye but better, Duke Nukem 64, while having censorship and lacking music (just put it on in the background), offers a fair bit of new content, Doom 64 is has all original levels and all new graphics and sound, Mario Party 2 is really fun, etc.

The N64s library was slim, indeed, but there's some genuinely good stuff there too.

>>4952243
Cheese isn't just milk, and it's made under controlled circumstances, and most importantly with rennet, or a suitable substitute.
If you leave a carton of milk on the counter for a month, it stops being milk, and becomes some kind of disgusting mush, that's more like the early term abortion to cheese, rather than an actual, proper cheese, and it really wont ever be a real cheese, because you did nothing with it.
The analogy is stupid.

I am generally of the opinion that if someone says a game has aged badly, what's really the case was that the game maybe wasn't actually that good to begin with, and you liked it before due to a lack of better options, and or you were a kid and didn't know better.
Some games can sort of be a bit obsoleted by followers and competitors though, like how say, Wolfenstein 3D isn't bad, but if you have Doom or even Rise Of The Triad, they are just so much better, and Wolf3D is almost bland in comparison.
Or Heroes Of Might & Magic 3 almost killing any reason to play the first two.
Like, if I have Sim City 2000 or 3000, how would I convince myself to play the first one? It's not a bad game, but the other two are much much better.

>> No.4952496

>>4951998
>i spent $500 to recover my childhood
lmao dude

>> No.4952507
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Sometimes I wish this board had age verification technology

>> No.4952927

>>4952465
>some iffy arcade ports,
Say what you will about the quality level of it's games, but it's arcade port game is undeniable. No other system of that era could touch it, on just about any game where they were on both systems PSX ports were shit in comparison (or at the very least they were even without a RAM cart on the Saturn, something the PSX never had as an option). It didn't matter much at the time sure, but you can't make a statement like that without some rebuttal.

Back on topic, N64 is basically 3D Platformer: The Console. Everything that comes to mind and isn't first party is one of those or Tetrisphere.

>> No.4952935

>>4952927
If anything, the N64 is a racing game machine, maybe add some sports games too.

>> No.4952942

>>4952935
The racing games kind of felt samey to me after a while, but I don't think I can argue it didn't have some great ones. Beetle Adventure, DKC, and my favorite Mario Kart, plus games I probably didn't end up playing. I don't think any system of the time can compete with PS1 in the sports department, though, as much as I like the mario sports games and Snowboard Kids 1+2.

>> No.4952979

>>4951998
>Mario 64 is one of the greatest games of all time
genz/10

>> No.4952989

>>4952927
The Saturn's arcade ports were better than contemporary consoles, yes, but a lot of them were far from perfect. Nowadays there are better options for playing arcade games.

>> No.4952992

>>4952989
I think that's unfair when criticizing a console, there's better ways of playing most games from back then, but that doesn't mean it wasn't the best option available at the time. I think it's an agree to disagree situation, though, since we see it from two different angles.

>> No.4953004

how is this thread still up when it’s an obvious bad faith shitpost

>> No.4953023

>>4952992
Well, this whole thread is about criticizing consoles from a modern perspective. For example, it's unfair to the N64 to dismiss games like Goldeneye yet praise the Saturn's arcade ports. Neither console holds up all that well today, frankly.

>> No.4953027

>>4953023
That's true, I guess. I'd still say the non-ports on Saturn hold up really well, just like the games the 64 are known for do, but those are fair criticisms in that perspective.

>> No.4953298

>>4951998
>trying to recover your childhood
>over the last few years
>age 10-13
lel

>> No.4954068

>Custom Robo
>Bangaio
>Magical Tetris
>Blast Corps
>Bomberman Arcade
>Mischief Makers
>Fzero DD
>Doshin
>Sim City DD
>Jet Force Gemini
>Wonder Project J2
>Goemon's Adventure
>Puzzle League
>Stadium w transfer pak
>Jikkyu pro 6
>NFL
>doom 64
>Rakuga kids
>animal forest translation
>hm64
>re2
>hybrid heaven
>dkr adventure mode
>fighters destiny
>tooie 100%
>majora

worth it for starfox 64 alone imo, but thats what ive been playing and my childhood has returned. If you whine about the visuals you havent immersed yourself in the system or you never played it during its time. In comparison my switch collects dust after i 100%ed odyssey

>> No.4954645

>>4951998
and at last you finally know why nintendo 64 emulation has stagnated, it can play all the good games rather accurately. you will be able to play mario 64, ocarina of time, majoras mask, paper mario, star fox 64 and fzero x. everything else is average and has been replaced by games after it. games like banjo kazooie for example, they are subpar platformer and subpar adventure. just play fallout 3 (not retro but just an example)

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>>4952183
>should've gone with an snes instead
there are equally as few good games, what kind of suggestion is this?

>> No.4954714

>>4951998
>Goldeneye aged like milk.

No it didn't. You're basing that on what others posted and meme youtubers and the fact that you suck at it now.

>Mario Kart doesn't have the fucking music playing if you're 3 players or up.

What kind of ridiculous assessment is that?!

>Honestly, the only thing good is Mario Party 3 with friends, but 20 turn minimum is fucking nuts when you just want to play for half an hour.

Mario Party games are fun but pretty casual games so it doesn't surprise me they're the only ones you like.

>In retrospect, it's like all emulator business,

-Triggering intensifies-.... That is not emulation, that's hardware. Just because you have the flashcart doesn't make it emulation, it's hardware.

>in that it's fun to set up and max out everything you're doing, but the games at the end of the day just aren't that fun. Just buy a Nintendo Switch.

The fact that you don't like retro videogames anymore doesn't mean you should come to the retro board acting like you are the only one who has explored the world of retro and suggests that either 1) you're a massive and cancerous premeditated troll or 2) you have massive problems of perspective and to the point of mental disability.

>> No.4954739

>>4952251
But it is how nintendrones and yogurt work.

>> No.4954743

>>4954068
How many of these dont play in an emulator?

>> No.4954829

>>4951998
>In retrospect, it's like all emulator business, in that it's fun to set up and max out everything you're doing, but the games at the end of the day just aren't that fun.
No, I actually like old games, and play them. Not N64 though, it kinda sucks mostly

>> No.4955043

>>4954068
Pretty good list here.

Honestly ED64 is my least used everdrive. It's an OK system but I find myself playing more 2D stuff or ps1 than anything.

I'm not shitting on the console, it's alright but I just don't get the enjoyment as I do with other consoles.

>> No.4955050

>>4951998
I want to eat that cartridge.

>> No.4955062

>>4951998
Is this a false flag to mock people who buy everdrives as being complete retards or something? If so then bravo OP you really convinced me.

>>4954645
>it can play all the good games rather accurately.
I know you are just baiting but in case someone new is reading this is unfortunately not true as games like Paper Mario are still kind of fucked. We still have a ways to go.

>> No.4955067

>>4952442
>it's probably the most overrated library out there,
That's the Saturn though. In fact, it's pretty obvious that most N64 haters are just butthurt Saturnfags. The fact that you unironically recommend a saturn over a N64 is proof of this.

>> No.4955071

>>4952927
>but it's arcade port game is undeniable.
>b-but it's g-got a-arcade p-ports
"No!"

>> No.4955086

>>4955043
This pretty much sums up my feelings. There's a few cool expensive games that I never got to experience that I enjoyed. I'd say it's worth getting the cheaper of the everdrives and just buying Pokemon Stadium 2 if you really love it.

>> No.4955118

>>4955043
idk man N64 is like endless fun to me

>> No.4955719

>>4954668
Not even remotely true.

>> No.4956079

I'm surprised you're even allowed to handle your money, Jesus Christ OP

>> No.4956115

>>4951998
ehhhhh I am still considering getting one. The big games I want to play are Bomberman 1+2, Super Smash Brothers and Diddy Kong Racing. Buying them individually ends up being similar in price, maybe a little cheaper, but then i have the option to play other games as well. I already own a few good games like Paper Mario and Mario Kart. And I can't get a fucking N64 emulator to work on my computer for some reason. It's not worth fucking around with.

>> No.4957576

>>4953004
Here after the weekend, it was my genuine opinion, friend. Also to that guy up there calling me Generation Z? That's a first, you'd think gen z would be Sunshine or Galaxy.

By the way, thank God I had 4 controller save packs, because Gauntlet Legends is awesome, if not demanding in the hardware department (also need the expansion pack to play 4 player).

>> No.4957605

>>4954714
Woah, get that thumb out of your ass Jethro. I grew up with the N64, and going back from dual analog to Goldeneye is indeed shit. I can go back to Duke Nukem with the mouse and keyboard, and its just as playable. You don't have to measure your e-pen0r size with a retro "git gud fgt."

Maybe you didn't notice, but I stated Mario Party because I'm playing with three other people, just like Gauntlet Legends. Your 'tism is equally as abhorrent as your perceived notion of what you think I am.

>> No.4957626

when i first got an n64 back in the day the hype made it sound like it would just make the ps1 look like shit so i was a bit dissapointed but I'm now discovering games i had little idea about. I'm having a lot of fun playing megaman legends, it has beautiful graphics and good framerate and i was also surprised to find snowboarding kids and twisted edge snowboarding run at 60 fps.

>> No.4958926

>>4951998
I'd pay 500$ for F-Zero X with the Japan-exclusive Disk Drive expansion pack on original hardware.

Project 64 and N64 emulation in general sucks ass.

>> No.4958940

>>4951998
Mario party 2 is better nigga
also Paper Mario 64 is great and both legend of zelda games are still fun
Quest 64 is good and also really hard

>> No.4958942

>>4957605
Mfw dual analog goldeneye

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>>4957605
OP you are a tremendous faggot, end of discussion.

>> No.4959867

>>4957605
I never really liked goldeneye. Even with dual analog. The irony of your underage stupidity isn't lost on me. Or apparently a few others ITT chuckling in disgust at your god tier retardation.

>> No.4959895

>>4951998
N64 has an awesome library, but you need to spend some time with each game before its genius will present itself to you.

It was still of a time when games were supposed to have playability; games were designed to be played for dozens of hours. So that initial 5 minutes might be shit, even the firstcouple of hours might seem meh. But you have to go deeper.

>> No.4960045

>>4951998
>Sm64
>Majora's Mask
>Star fox 64
>Paper Mario
>F-zero
>Goemon
>Mischief Makers
N64 library really is barren as a desert, but whats in the oasis is so fucking good.

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>>4952253
>GoldenEye: Source plays almost exactly the same
confirmed to have never played goldeneye on n64

>> No.4960416

>>4951998
>Goldeneye aged like milk
Games don't age. Goldeneye was and always will be shit.

>> No.4960419

>>4960409
I did, in the 90s, four players, you only live twice :-)

>> No.4960461

>>4952183
>once you play all the good games there's no good games left
really made me think

>> No.4960713

If you want good games OP, list the ones you’ve tried and we can make some recommendations.

For example, have you tried mischief makers? The first level is slow and dialogue heavy but after that it’s just a really fun 2D platformer.

>> No.4960718

>>4960416
Yeah, pretty much.

>> No.4960738

>>4959895
sounds like such an excuse but this has honestly been my experience. Now I enjoy almost every game, even sports games. DKR starts off so easy and stale until it picks up and you see the stellar design of the bosses and coin placements.

But with goldeneye i truly never understood the meme. How can anyone bitch about the controls when the game does everything for you with autoaim. Just enemy reactions alone makes it hold up compared to modern games. Do people not like quake 64's controls either? Never had a problem.

>> No.4961327

>no love for Pilotwings 64 in the entire thread

I must be in the minority or something. Fucking love me some Pilotwings

>> No.4961335

>>4952927
>No other system of that era could touch it, on just about any game where they were on both systems PSX ports were shit in comparison

It wasn't a stark contrast like Genesis vs Turbografx

ports were usually 95% similar, except some games like Xmen vs Street Fighter

some games were actually worse on Saturn, such as In the Hunt and Donpachi

>> No.4961337

>>4961335
>Ports were similar except the games that people wanted to play
I won't doubt that some games were worse, because that seems absurd even to me, but by and large it always seemed to be that if you wanted arcade-perfect ports you went to Saturn. Of course, by then nobody wanted that which is why PS1 won, but still.

>> No.4961341

>>4961337
>Ports were similar except the games that people wanted to play

There's a constant circlejerk over how Alpha 3 is better on Saturn even compared to Dreamcast, but it looks the same on ps1 apart from the character select animations being cut

>> No.4961343

>>4961341
>looks
>Not plays, but looks
>Not frame perfect, but it kind of looks okay if you squint a bit

>> No.4961348

>>4961343
explain to the class why it's not worth playing, then?

>> No.4961352

>>4961348
Because there's a better version available to home consumers?

>> No.4961358

>>4951998
N64's best value is the legendary multiplayer. If you don't have friends around you aren't gonna be using it as often

There's still about 20 incredible n64 games, and then out of the total about 60 are good or better.

There are some overlooked games that aren't Body Harvest or SSSV. Turok 3 is criminally overlooked compared to 1 or 2

>> No.4961361

>>4961352
so is it only 1% better, or actually worth shelling out the cash for a saturn and ram cart then?

saturn fanboys talk in buzzwords constantly

>> No.4961409

>>4961361
Many Capcom fighters had major differences, I remember reading several places that PS1 versions had only 75% of the frames that the Saturn + Ramcart version did., and that was contemporary information. I'm sure there's arcade ports to PS1 that were better than Saturn, but by and large if you want Arcade quality from games that matter you'll invest in a Saturn.

>> No.4961580

>>4961327
I fell in love with it when I first played it and played it for many hours. However I think over time it loses its charm a bit. It's not because it "aged" or that garbage, because by the time I finally played Pilotwings 64 I had already been playing the sixth gen of consoles for years. Maybe I'm also a little bitter at having never gotten a perfect score.... and another thing I hate is that it's a game where if you didn't play it in a long time you tend to lose all your skill.

>> No.4961590

>>4961580
Perfect score* I mean 100% everything, obviously I got the Perfect score in many of the courses. I wanted to get a perfect score, I set out to get it, so it left me kind of bitter when I didn't, I just gave the cart back to my friend with the slightly legitimate excuse that might controller was too worn.

>> No.4962265

>>4952243
The only reason a person would say a game aged bad is because it doesn't play like modern triple A twin stick bullshit.