Romancing saga

[Anonymous No.4939987]

romancing saga 2: this shit is hard.

I have no idea what im doing or where I'm going I was making good progress for a while there now I unlocked subier and cant find the asshole.

[Anonymous No.4939995]

>>4939987
the subject was really just supposed to be saga series sorry fellas. as much as I love the stateside release of RS2 feel free to talk about any of them. I was hoping by now there might be some more details or guides on all the secret goofy shit in romancing saga 2 every time I play is surprise confusion frustration and fun. Also I can't spark for shit.

[Anonymous No.4940089]

After a couple of hours playing Alberts Story in Romancing SaGa 1 I've decided to restart now that I know more about the game. Even though I didn't make all that much progress in the grand scheme of things I already feel much more equipped and knowledgeable about the game.

This time around I'm writing down what all the shops are selling, where the magic shops are located and I'm writing down all the quest information I get.

My first time playing I made the mistake that this could be played like the Final Fantasy Legend Games. This was an incorrect presumption on my part, this game seems much more demanding and requires a lot more effort to get into and succeed at. It's less Final Fantasy and more Ultima if that makes sense. Originally I thought a lot of its mechanics and world design was poorly made and admittedly it IS a pretty clunky game. However I'm really warming up to it and all the weird idiosyncrasies it contains.

I think in total I've played about 16 hours I wanna say, the fact that I felt the immediate urge to restart and keep playing says a lot about the games unique style

[Anonymous No.4940279]

>>4940089
Thats the thing about the franchise, really. Its base gameplay is just so fun and satisfying that restarting doesn't feel too bad.
Personally, I think RS2 is as close to perfect as a JRPG can get. My only beef with it is having to set up a new team after a timeskip takes a little longer than I would personally like.

[Anonymous No.4940290]

Play Romancing Saga 3 instead. It is easier than 2.

[Anonymous No.4940596]

>>4940279
my biggest complaint as well. Magic learning in particular is extremely clunky with a dialogue you have to mash through for every spell, and it's in the opposite direction of the other castle facilities so you run around Avalon a lot.

[Anonymous No.4940910]

>>4939987
Actually I think RS2's progression is pretty intuitive, I didn't get lost in it unlike other games. You say you've unlocked Subier; do you mean you finished the pirate ship quest? If so, and you didn't encounter him there, the ocean diver lady would have told you Subier is in the frozen sea. Now you just need to commandeer a ship and go after him. Do you remember another time you (had the option to) commandeer a ship?

What sort of details and guides are you looking for? There are some japanese websites and the anons on /vr/ know everything about the game. Also if this is your first playthrough it's best to hold off on the guides for now.

[Anonymous No.4941346]

>>4940089
>It's less Final Fantasy and more Ultima if that makes sense.
You're not wrong, SaGa games are definitely influenced by Ultima in terms of structure and general progression.
What I like about the series though is that while you can definitely see how much Ultima influenced it it also goes beyond that to become its own thing, especially from Romancing SaGa 2 onwards, but it still keeps the same Ultima feeling and to this day I consider SaGa the only series which picked up the classic Ultima's legacy and expanded upon it.

It does help to know that Kawazu's favorite game of all time is indeed Ultima 4.
>However I'm really warming up to it and all the weird idiosyncrasies it contains.
You're on the right path then, and yes, a lot of the design decisions in RS1 are admittedly poor and clunky, though with that first hand experience you'll appreciate the huge step in quality with Romancing SaGa 2 even more.

[Anonymous No.4941508]

>found the kid and the mu calf in a cave
>battling my way through there, got turned around a few times
>pretty low on wp/JP
>suddenly fucking Dantarg out of nowhere stomps my team into the ground

Not really sure what to do yet since I think I completed most of the other sidequests for now besides ones that pertain to the seven heroes.
>Bokhohn is kill
>Found Rocbouquet but she doesn't do anything when I talk to her, I tell her I won't help her and she's like "oh..."
>No idea where Subier and Noel are
>Some far east kingdom mentioned Wagnas but haven't heard anything else yet

I feel like I do need to grind to beat some of these bosses because of how hard they hit, but then I heard it makes the game harder, so I'm not sure what to do

[Anonymous No.4941543]

literally any SaGa game without a lot of Tomomi Kobayashi art isn't worth playing
Imagine a Silmarillion inspired game with her art

[Anonymous No.4941571]

>>4941508
Rocboquet will ignore you if you choose not to help her as a female emperor, you either have to kill the golem yourself or play as a male one

[Anonymous No.4941574]

>>4941508
>I feel like I do need to grind
You don't really need to unless you've been neglecting your magic, just focus on your equipment, plenty of great stuff to hoard from dungeons that will also help you out managing money.

Just to give you a few pointers though:
-You should never be low on WP/JP, check your treasury for all the recovery herbs that get restocked on each generation,
-Formations/Magic/Equipment>>>>>>>>raw stats
-The game has more content than you think, explore and explore some more
-Swap your classes around often, don't underestimate the beastmen classes, they can be very powerful if used right
-Talk to people, visit places you've already visited, sometimes there's new stuff to see or do
>>4941543
As much as I like Tomomi's art this is wrong, the GB SaGa are good and so is Unlimited.
>Imagine a Silmarillion inspired game with her art
I'd wonder what kind of rockstar she'd sneak into.
Iirc she did some covers for the prints of some Michael Moorcock's books some time ago though, Gloriana I think?

[Anonymous No.4941609]

>>4941574
>and so is Unlimited
dude, that game is really broken and the battle system is a slot machine. I wanted to like it but it's just bad.

Tomomi's art looks a lot prettier than half of the illustrations for Tolkien books. Tolkien's own illustrations were very colorful watercolor and not this brown and grey stuff his work constantly gets associated with, which the crappy movies are at fault for.

[Anonymous No.4941613]

>>4941609
>dude, that game is really broken and the battle system is a slot machine.
What are you talking about?
Have you even played that game?

[Anonymous No.4941618]

>>4941613
I'm talking about Unlimited Saga's battle system. It's luck based RNG hell, probably made for the pachinko crown.

[Anonymous No.4941624]

>>4941618
>It's luck based RNG hell
Anon, Battle reels have no RNG.

[Anonymous No.4941628]

What are the absolute definite SaGa games to play? I don't want to make myself too crazy with these series.

[Anonymous No.4941638]

>>4941624
Yes they do

[Anonymous No.4941660]

>>4941628
>What are the absolute definite SaGa games to play?
All of them bar GB SaGa 3(Play the DS remake) and maybe Romancing SaGa 1 because it's a product of its time and a huge experiment where many things went right but a lot of other things went absolutely wrong, so you can forget about it if you aren't a diehard fan and play the PS2 remake.

SaGa's an exceptional series with each game being pretty much its own thing, there's no absolute definite list because it's hard to compare games that are so vastly different in design.
However, you should definitely start with these and see if you like what you're playing:
>SaGa 2, either GB or the DS remake are fine
>SaGa Frontier, which is the most popular game in the series
>Romancing SaGa 3 has almost the same status as SaGa Frontier in terms of popularity
>Romancing SaGa 2 is the last of the holy trifecta but it's a tougher game than the other 2
>Minstrel Song, the Romancing SaGa 1 remake for the PS2 and kind of a super compilation remake
>>4941638
Only field reels have RNG slips, Battle reels are all about timing.

[Anonymous No.4941745]

>>4941508
>Found Rocbouquet but she doesn't do anything when I talk to her, I tell her I won't help her and she's like "oh..."

If you got stomped by Dantarg go do some other quests and come back. Grinding making the game harder is a myth (you fight stronger enemies but you'll overpower them anyway). However it's not recommended to grind because grinding isn't fun and making the game easier isn't fun.

There's probably more for you to do in the desert and in the eastern land. Have you heard of the wandering minstrel?

[Anonymous No.4941778]

>>4941609
For me Unlimited is hit and miss. Some of the character scenarios are really all around fun to play and enjoy like Ruby and Ventus, but others are more of a pain in the ass that I dread having to go through, like the early part of Kurt, Judy, and Armic

Being able to abuse the panel system to make some strong characters is really fun though

[Anonymous No.4941789]

>>4941638
They don't have any rng to them, in fact if you have good timing you can hit the same reel in the same spot every single time in battle.

The ones on the field, like dodging traps or picking locks, have some luck to them, but the panels are all the same as well, and there are ways to minimize risk by aiming for a group of greens in case the reel does slip a few spots

[Anonymous No.4941802]

>>4941778
Unlimited would have benefitted from having a more open structure and multiple ways to solve quests.
Battle, dungeon and character building wise it's probably the best game in the series for me, but the game is really hampered by having so so quest and scenario design most of the times, it's the same exact mistake they kept on repeating since SaGa Frontier and only really got out of with Minstrel Song.

What pains me the most though is how I'll never see another entry with that kind of design philosophy, I'd pay good money for an Unlimited 2.0 with the open world and progression system from Scarlet Grace and Tomomi's art instead of Naora's.
I wouldn't even care that much about rebalancing weapons and the stats, just being able to have more elasticity in terms of game progression would be enough.

I can only pray that Kawazu stays defiant for the next mainlines and keeps on working and expanding on the new tabletop base instead of going back to the old "videogamey" standard, though this format is still pretty unpopular for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.4943024]

>>4940910
I spoke to the narwhal in the lake with the shell and someone in marlboro told me about icy water area. I haven't heard any news in atlanticus or toba about a bad ship and I unlocked Nuono a goodly long while ago. Do I need to do something oddly specific? I feel like I made logical visits to water based places I talked to Hiraga again and still no dice. At this point the only places I haven't gone back to are the desert jungle and volcano island. I just took a moment to go back to south nazelle too no dice. I must have missed something and the moblem boat just takes me to visit the bridge. I'm gonna go visit the narwhal again.

[Anonymous No.4943237]

>>4943024
You might just need for more time to pass. Next generation you might hear about a storm in north rongit, then the quest can proceed.

[Anonymous No.4943807]

I feel like giving Unlimited Saga another shot but it's super confusing and hard to get into.
Which character is the easiest to get into the game with?

[Anonymous No.4944240]

>>4943807
I made a pros/cons list of each route for a group of friends I tried to get into the game. its kind of a read but here

https://pastebin.com/tL2TmZZM

if its tl;dr,

Easy: Ventus or Judy
Medium: Ruby or Laura
Hard: Kurt, Mythe, or Armic

[Anonymous No.4944381]

>>4943024
Bit of a spoiler since you appear to have hit a wall will Subier, so read at your own risk.
Subier appears after different amounts of time depending on whether you made peace of forced Enrique to surrender when you first found Nuono. If you made peace with Enrique you'll need two generation skips iirc, then Gallon will appear and conquer Nuono, after having completed his quest the Ghost ship will appear near Toba and you'll need to talk to Maria, the little girl in the bar, to start the quest, this will trigger one of the two possible encounter points with Subier.
If Subier doesn't appear during the ghost ship quest then you'll need to find him in the other encounter point by using the same ship you used to travel to Nuono.
>>4944240
Good list, I agree with most of your points.
I just want to add some points regarding certain characters:
>Ruby
She has a unique problem regarding party composition, since she only gains more party members outside of the main team by doing some of the Seven Wonders, that means you have to be extra careful about the order of those depending on how you want to develop your team.
If you want Anzan as a dedicated tank/earth user then you'll need to do the Nakle Lines ASAP, which means facing Tagut and not having an exploitable Tetra Force, this could be potentially very hard, tricky characters like Grace also have a similar problem in the sense that they need more time than others to properly develop.
>Kurt
His own Gauntlet gimmick can potentially make the game unwinnable if you're not well developed and equipped by the time you get to do Edel's quest, this is because the Gauntlet will keep sucking you in extra battles based on real time timers, and while you're spending turns in those Gauntlet battles monsters keep on spawning in the city and messing up your quest to the point that it's very easy to enter an infinite loop or wear down your characters/equipment to the point of no return.

[Anonymous No.4945039]

>>4944381
Ah, thank you for the feedback! I'm glad to hear a second opinion on it.

Good points for Ruby's and Kurt's quests. You bring up a good point with Ruby especially because after looking through her team roster, I noticed that a lot of the characters need an extended amount of development time before they hit their stride. It's a point that gets overshadowed by Iskandar being strong enough to carry the team to the very end, but it's definitely one that I should address in my guide. Players should really utilize the Tetra Forces in each of the Seven Wonders. I didn't have it written down but I did mention verbally to a friend of mine to "always save Deities' Table for the sixth" so they can spend time building up characters.

Also, I completely didn't think about that part in Kurt's scenario lol. By then I do believe you have a full party (minus Hiro but hes a bench character in this quest for me :p ) but its still fairly early in for Kurt, so not having some decent setups for a couple characters can really make things dire. I do like that particular scenario for being able to raise up monster rank quickly though, it's very convenient, and Edel is my favorite character, so..

Other than that, the only scenario I really haven't spent much time on is Armic's because I never enjoyed it enough to play through it more than a couple of times. It's a neat story gimmick, but I wish that you weren't handicapped a character over it, since for me the roster was kind of lackluster. So any advice on his would be great for me to throw in.

[Anonymous No.4945117]

>>4940279
>Its base gameplay is just so fun and satisfying
>fights that end under 10 seconds 80% of the time
>fun

[Anonymous No.4945342]

>>4945117
it's fun to set up this or that thing to get things that way and make large numbers show up on the screen

[Anonymous No.4945396]

>>4945039
You made a good list so I do not think there's anything to correct or add to any of those, especially for beginners.

I personally don't agree with Kurt's party being all that great because outside of Armand there's not many true easy mode characters as in Judy's scenario, that said Armand is so bullshit strong he could easily solo the game so eh.

Still, Josef, Platy and Mordeus aren't as strong as you make them out to be, Josef is at its best in Kurt's story, funnily enough, but he still needs special care since he's the frailest character in the game, Platy is a mixed specialist so while she can be a wonderful wood mage you'll need to farm tablet for her, and either Hiro or Vent outclass her as an LP attacker, Mordeus is also frail for what he is and he's kind of tacked on given how both Armand and Edel are both much better than him at being weapon users and you get Armand early on too, I really don't get why they give you Mordeus instead of say, a female character.
>>4945117
Nothing wrong with short battles.
JRPGs with battles that last longer do so because they either have:
>Longass battle animations
>Forced gameplay loops that aren't challenging and bring nothing to the battle design
>Damage sponges
Or all of the above, but if you want to say that something like FFIX is more fun than something like RS2 or Frontier because the battles last 5 minutes each at minimum, I don't know what to tell you.
And this is without considering the quality of the battle systems too.

[Anonymous No.4945549]

>>4945396
>JRPGs with battles that last longer
Basically everything else, and that's on top of the whole "hold confirm" nonsense.

[Anonymous No.4945586]

I played RS3 and it felt like you should know how everything works before playing or grind your way throught

[Anonymous No.4945595]

>>4945586
I played SaGa frontier and felt "hold OK to win" then tried RS2 and it was slightly same difference except that you had to run away from mimic chests and use magic every now and then instead of normal attack. I don't see why the combat system and the gameplay in this game gets so much praise.

[Anonymous No.4945818]

>>4945595
>I played SaGa frontier and felt "hold OK to win" then tried RS2 and it was slightly same
Sure, Anon.
>I don't see why the combat system and the gameplay in this game gets so much praise.
Maybe because you'd need to actually play them instead of shitposting about them.

[Anonymous No.4946191]

>>4945595
>I played SaGa frontier and felt "hold OK to win"
this is literally the opposite of the truth
SaGa gets praise because its one of the only JRPG series you can't do this.
Even Red's scenario, which is super easy, by the way, demands you to make decisions

[Anonymous No.4946227]

YES
https://store.steampowered.com/app/686720/_/
LOOK AT THIS SHIT
its coming in english apprantly at a later date

[Anonymous No.4946231]

>>4946227
Fuck yes, dude
Literally, a dream come true.

[Anonymous No.4946292]

>>4946227
it's indeed wishful thinking that it will be in english, but just because it's on steam will mean it will be released in english with a 100% chance.

[Anonymous No.4946338]

>>4939995
Stuff like this is the reason why I question at times if I'm straight.

[Anonymous No.4946358]

>>4946338
It's 2018, dude. You can totally be gay and straight at the same time. :)

[Anonymous No.4946374]

>>4946227
praise kawazu

[Anonymous No.4946612]

>>4946191
>>4945818

But I have for fuck's sake. I only use moves other than the default attack when it comes to "bosses"

[Anonymous No.4946619]

>>4946612
>I only use moves other than the default attack when it comes to "bosses"
Then that's not "hold OK to win"
What's even the problem here?
Was the game not hard enough? SaGa Frontier is one of the easiest entries, by the way. Maybe you're just good at RPGs

[Anonymous No.4946704]

>>4946619
No jrpg allows you to win against bosses by holding the attack button.

[Anonymous No.4946762]

>>4945595
RS2 goes out of its way to kill you for not countering monsters. Come on, at least try to be honest here.

[Anonymous No.4946787]

>>4945595
>then tried RS2 and it was slightly same difference except that you had to run away from mimic chests and use magic every now and then instead of normal attack.
You're full of shit. There is no way you are getting through standard encounters without paralyzing or stunning enemies. There are some high threat enemies you either have to outright kill right away or disable.

[Anonymous No.4946832]

>>4946787
to be fair most late game encounters can be flowcharted
>small enemies: GALAXY
>large enemy: air wave then galaxy
probably not the most efficient way, but it felt that only bosses are challenging.

[Anonymous No.4946853]

>>4946227
Now I was looking at this when it was added to steam but realistically what are the odds of this game getting translated? Officially or otherwise?

[Anonymous No.4946915]

>>4946853
They are putting it on Steam because they have the intention to translate it into English.

[Anonymous No.4946967]

>>4946832
In late game you're so powerful coming from all the bullshit you had to deal with that it's no surprise most battles are just spamming Galaxy or mass waza, and even so there's formations, party composition and all the stuff that lead you there in the first place, because I'm preeetty sure you can't get something like Galaxy by spamming basic attacks and "sometimes" using magic like anon said, let alone with most encounters by using the basic attack command.
But I'd be really curious to see anon win against things like Termite Fighters, Kaiser Ants or Chariots on Free Fight by spamming normal attacks like he said he does, let alone fighting something like the Spriggan with that mindset, this is without considering Frontier.

Then again, I guess spamming attacks and healing loops against HP sponges is a much better battle design than what SaGa does in his eyes so more power to him I guess, though I wonder why he's even here at this point.
>>4946853
>what are the odds of this game getting translated?
Very high, Kawazu wants to and being put on Steam is basically telling you that the game is coming to the west, hardly anyone in Japan plays on PC, this is evidently aimed at the foreign markets.

[Anonymous No.4947464]

Did scarlet grace released?
torrentwwhere

[Anonymous No.4947626]

I need some RS2 help, guys. I'm doing the second volcano scenario where I have to destroy some lava flow. I just can't beat it, I don't deal any damage. Is there a trick to it? I thought the hammer the Salamanders give would have some sort of special effect, but it doesn't really do anything, and it's not even a particularly strong weapon.

[Anonymous No.4947639]

>>4946227
Is anyone here planning to buy this right now? I'd buy it, but right now it's unavailable outside Japan and I'd like to hear the new music.

[Anonymous No.4947748]

>>4947639
why they did they even bother adding this to steam

[Anonymous No.4947771]

>>4947748
It's an updated version of SG, it's on a new platform (granted steam isn't as popular in Japan as other consoles), and it's a possibility of a step in the direction of SG being brought to western shores sooner rather than later q

[Anonymous No.4947786]

>>4947771
You cant even buy it because blahblah its not available in your region and japs dont give a fuck about pc games outside eroge
Not even diehard weeaboos can buy it so who is this release aimed at?

[Anonymous No.4947821]

>>4947786
As stated in my last response, it's directed at the Japanese market, hence the game being available in jpn only region, as well as the game being in Japanese. It's an update from the first rendition of Scarlet Grace, and it's being released on more consoles to increase it's aim at a larger playerbase.

Should this be a success in the eyes of the studio, we could see a western release within a reasonable timeframe

[Anonymous No.4947947]

>>4947626
>I thought the hammer the Salamanders give would have some sort of special effect
Well, it is a blunt weapon, which is effective in that fight. If you've learned grand slam that will be particularly useful for crowd control. Martial arts will also work well for dealing damage. If all else fails, you don't actually have to win. There is a route split which will yield different results, and there is merit to both routes.

[Anonymous No.4947978]

>>4947821
Whatever i just wanted to play since etrianx leak is not out yet as well

japan should be nuked again

[Anonymous No.4948230]

>>4947786
>You cant even buy it because blahblah its not available in your region
You can make a JP steam account if you want to buy that, not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.4948315]

>>4948230
Not buying games in language i dont speak sir

[Anonymous No.4948340]

>>4947947
Yeah, thanks! Martial Arts did the trick (spamming Meia Lua Concerto). I was spending too much SP on the adds instead of saving it on Martial Arts skills for the lava, because I didn't expect the damage difference to be so big.

[Anonymous No.4948671]

>>4941346
>It does help to know that Kawazu's favorite game of all time is indeed Ultima 4.
is this the one where you have to show mercy to slimes and sort of just watch other people fight or try to talk them out of it to beat the game

[Anonymous No.4948678]

>>4941609
>battle system is a slot machine
it seems like that, but then you realize that the reel only overspins 1-5 tiles and 50% of the time stops where you hit it. 50% of the time it doesn't move, and 10% of the time it will hit one of the 5 tiles in front

the reel has a looping pattern, do you aim for the widest target zone or the area with the most safe spots after the stop?

the reel is the field, a rolling roulette wheel, and when you stop it, a die rolls on it's surface

shit is DnD as fuck man

[Anonymous No.4948682]

>>4941638
the battle reels actually start at different spin locations depending on how fast you press the button to link the next reel, and how the techniques relate to each other as combos, it is 100% based on timing and factors which are fixed and predetermined before the event occurs.

[Anonymous No.4948685]

>>4946612
to be fair this about how hard the game is if you force your way through the intro with luck and then immediately abuse the scrap and gold trick to buy the best equipment.

You can just get 5 swordguys and stomp through everything with your zero swords and powered suits

[Anonymous No.4948687]

>>4948678
not only that, the reel only slips when youre doing field stuff, like lockpicking, dodging traps, diplomacy, etc. in battle the reel never slips, with good timing you can hit the tiles you want 100% of time in battle

[Anonymous No.4948693]

>>4947947
>really need to raise the hp of my emperor
>end up finding a brawler I actually like
>his name is DYNAMITE
>can't bring myself to kill him
>ends up punching out the termite queen
>can't find that dick subier still
>go to volcano finally
>oh shit it's gonna explode
>but dynamite is here
>get some kind of hammer thing
>go to fight a fucking volcano
>end up punching out a force of nature with a fucking corkscrew punch
>dynamite just knocked out a fucking volcano

later
>kill dantarg and save a child
>still no generation shift
>"lets go fight wagnas"
>"it'll be easy"
>PSYCHO SHOT
>PSYCHO SHOT
>PSYCHO SHOT

[Anonymous No.4949191]

>>4948315
Well, if that's the case of course you shouldn't.
Though I really hate this region locking thing in online services, free market my ass, I shouldn't be forced to make a specific region's account and order some steam cards just because they want to control pricing and suck my wallet dry, I shouldn't go through all kind of hoops just to buy a fucking game.

I'm actually still pondering whether to buy the JP version or wait it out for the western version just to show there's people here who want SaGa localized.
>>4948671
Yeah, that's the one.
Still wonder why he never did something like that, though who knows, maybe he will.
>>4948693
Punching a volcano with fantasy Thomas Billington is always something.

[Anonymous No.4949290]

>>4949191
Pc version doesn't sell because japs there is no point in making it english whelp

[Anonymous No.4949319]

>>4949191
>Still wonder why he never did something like that
Because if you're not a friend to justice you're an enemy to humanity.

[Anonymous No.4949374]

So, the Vita version of Scarlet Grace is eventually getting an upgrade, didn't think Kawazu managed to pull it off.

https://twitter.com/SaGa25kawazu/status/1025013279565856769

It probably will keep the shitty lighting, FPS issues from the original version given the Vita's specs unless they really work on it, still amazing that it's even getting an upgrade given how garbage Squenix has been, I'm honestly surprised.
>>4949319
Well, they don't call him an evil god for nothing I guess.

[Anonymous No.4949657]

>>So the Vita version was just a beta?
>I've been releasing beta versions of games since FF1
Absolute madman.

https://twitter.com/SaGa25kawazu/status/1025028822385668096

[Anonymous No.4949690]

>>4949657
I want an updated unlimited saga on psn then

[Anonymous No.4949704]

>>4949657
Maddest of lads

[Anonymous No.4949804]

>beat all the memories in the maze of memories
>unlock the final area
>fight the boss there, play conservatively with revive
>god damn that was hard thank goodness it's over
>2nd form
>fuck it, I earned my stripes on the first fight, lemme just speed up time and call it a day
>mfw it doesn't work

Long story short they proceeded to smack me. Seems they use blunt attacks and hypnosis which I can defend against but I don't have the dodge for pheromone and I'm on my final emperor. I wanna try looking for something to fight to dodge it but idk if it's worth the time. Does getting a black screen add wazas to your bank or does it need to be a true gen skip? I still have 1 more hero to fight so I know I can force at least 1 more black screen.

Also does anyone know a good place to spark at endgame? I'm fighting light dragons but haven't gotten much yet. My sword wazas are shit (my best single target is slice) so I really wanna get something better before I go back.

[Anonymous No.4949828]

>>4949804
>He thought he could cheese the true Queen with magic
It doesn't work on the first fight either by the way

>>4949804
>Does getting a black screen add wazas to your bank or does it need to be a true gen skip?
The latter.
>Also does anyone know a good place to spark at endgame?
Albions are generally the go to, you can find them at high BR from any fish type enemy, they're those big narwhale like monsters.

[Anonymous No.4949926]

>>4949804
Getting a black screen will add wazas to the bank if you're on the final emperor.

[Anonymous No.4950032]

>>4949804
>Does getting a black screen add wazas to your bank or does it need to be a true gen skip?
I'm pretty sure black screens update spark lists IF you're on the final emperor.

>spark at endgame
Since you're using the maze of memories, you can use the top floor of the water dungeon. The albions can let you spark the best 1-h sword tech (and anything else).

Also what do you guys think of the RS2 remaster additional content? I think it's better to do a first playthrough without it and then maybe check it out on a second playthrough since it will mess up the original difficulty curve.

[Anonymous No.4950383]

>>4950032
I've been tempted to use the maze of memories in my playthrough at times from hitting a wall in terms of what to do, but I will attempt to tough it out for now.

>>4949690
>>4941802
Amen to that. I do think a bit of rebalancing would be nice to see for certain mechanics, or just some quality of life buffs for some stuff too. What kinds of things would you like to see changed in terms of gameplay?

One that jumps out at me would be having monster rank influence learning rate of tablets, higher rank monster = more points towards a spell at the end of battles. I do think something along the lines of being able to not be forced to change a panel after each successful adventure would be nice as well. That and having a chance to slightly increase a stat based on growth after each adventure would be nice to have too, sometimes when doing a bunch of side adventures, it feels like at times you're not even making progress if you're only getting mediocre level panels after being a dozen plus hours into a scenario. If they had the durability system go the way of the RS remake, where you could pay a small fee to repair everything to full between adventures, and use the smithing system for combining items to make new ones and/or increase max durability ratings would be a nice qol change, as having to go through and repair each character's weapons and gear every couple adventures can get really taxing. That, and it could be a Crown sink since after a point money starts to matter very little.

Otherwise, I really love the formulaic approach to it all and I'd kill to see a similar game try the same kinds of innovation.

[Anonymous No.4950463]

>>4950383
They should just cut out the middle man and get Araki to do the character designs for a SaGa game

[Anonymous No.4950631]

>was going to buy scarlet grace on switch
>need a japanese credit card or a japanese paypal account
>alternatively buy point codes but play-asia is out of stock
uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

[Anonymous No.4951424]

>>4950383
>What kinds of things would you like to see changed in terms of gameplay?
-Nerf SKL because it's a hilariously broken stat, either that or rebalance base LP damage multipliers
-Rebalance weapon multipliers, either globally or nerf equipment after Steel tiers
-Let people skip panel selections, having a dump panel is stupid
-Remove Tablet learning EXP and change it into an after battle spark chance, either that or severely cut the EXP needed for anything but base spells up to tier 3, Master/Forbidden tablets take ages to learn for no good reason
-Change weapon durability system to Minstrel Song's standard so stronger techs consume more DP, that way you also can't spam things like Reverse Delta mercilessly even with things like Recycle or Repair panels
-Multiple ways to solve quests with meaningful rewards for doing so, they are far too linear
-Make towns the same as dungeons(but with no turn count) so you can interact with NPCs by using new panels dedicated to NPC interaction or rework old panels like Maharaja, that way people won't complain too much about the minimalistic design too.
-Fix guns
-Allow players to choose which NG+ bonuses they want to carry over, I like things like monster ecology but Market Rank breaks the game
-Maybe give each MC a larger, non fixed cast pool instead of the same small roster each time, though that would probably be hard for thematic MCs like Mythe or Laura
-Give all MCs multiple main story branches, Only Kurt and Laura have those and they're pretty bad too
-Maybe make Jeanne, Leon, Dagul Bos, Yun, Clive and Kalandorn/Tooth recruitable in certain scenarios, Basil Galeos would be cool too
>Add more story sequences for Iskandar and the Silver Haired Girl storylines, this would greatly benefit Ruby's story since the game never points out that she's a descendant of Alice and the knife quest is directly tied to that.
-Fix all the wrong names like Armand, Mordeus or Leith.
>>4950631
It's a huge pain in the ass.