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4934113 No.4934113 [Reply] [Original]

Why no other retrogame had a visual representation like DQ VII? Looks like a 2D jrpg but at the same time you can turn the camera.

>> No.4934115

There were like 30 of them that gen alone

go play grandia and shining force iii you baby

>> No.4934223

>>4934115
name the other 28

>> No.4934249

>>4934113
Final Fantasy Tactics

>> No.4934304

>>4934113
Wild ARMs 2
Xenogears

>> No.4934336

>>4934113
>>4934113
Sure looks like polygons to me.

>> No.4934340

>>4934336
Yes but it does a good work maintaining the aesthetic.

>> No.4934341

>>4934113
Valkyria Chronicles has gud cell shading :-)

>> No.4934445

>>4934113
It always looked like super shitty polygons. The DS remakes do look like that a little though.

>> No.4934450

>>4934113
Some of the Shining Force Saturn games looked like that.

>> No.4934456

>>4934113
>kids actually believe this
Play more games before your time, timothy.

>> No.4934460

>>4934113
Torneko
Azure Dreams
Arc the Lad 1 and 2
Breath of Fire 3 and 4

>> No.4934601

>>4934340
No it doesn't. It looks hideous.

>> No.4934745

custom robo

>> No.4935239

>>4934601
It does in my opinion a better job at being respectful with previous entries while at the same time taking advantage of its 3D capabilities.
Is not as cinematic as FF prerendered background, but for that reason exploration is still an option.

>> No.4935251

I really hate that aesthetic to be honest.

>> No.4935342

>>4935239
That's cool, I just think it looks terrible. BoF4 did that but so much better

>> No.4935630
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4935630

>>4934113
2d sprites in a 3d enviornment wasn't that uncommon anon.

>> No.4935720

Persona 2

>> No.4935808

>>4935630
Damn that game is beautiful

>> No.4935827
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4935827

>>4935630
Literally the only game which did it right. Unfortunately, the shit style is what survived.

>> No.4935907
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4935907

>>4935630
No 3d environment there, it's 2D on 2D. Pic related is its 3D. You can just see a superior skill and care in the art direction compared to this ridiculous mess >>4935827

>> No.4935975

>>4934113
Heaps of RPG's from that generation have that style of graphics.
>>4935630
There's no 3d in that pic at all.

>> No.4936114

>>4935630
>>4935808
>>4935827
>>4935907
Why do all the other breath of fire games look so gross?

>> No.4936493

>>4935827
It's amazing that even today they can't make 2D that looks better than the average Saturn game.

>> No.4936549

>>4934445
>The DS remakes do look like that a little though
The official spanish translations added different international accents to every kingdom, making Torneko a Jew
>That gag with the Argentinian cats
>"Este... ¡miau!
> "¡La pucha! ¡Miau, che!"

>> No.4936589

>>4935907
>he can't afford a new videogame so he criticizes it on an effete message board for autists

>> No.4936606

A lot of people in the late 90s conflated 3D with realistic graphics and smooth animation. It's why DKC managed to fool so many, and it's also why 3D characters on prerendered backgrounds was considered more impressive than 2D characters in a 3D world. So DQVII's graphics were considered dated at the time.

>> No.4936617

>>4936606
Have you seen what god looks like in DQVII? Toriyama really lost it for a while after the cell saga, the heroes are alright design wise but god that whole game looks like shit otherwise, even Beyond the Beyond looks better.

>> No.4938615
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4938615

>>4934113

>> No.4938618

>>4936606
Toriyama doesn't personally design every single enemy. And you can't argue Orgodimier design wise isn't fucking great, both forms too.

>> No.4938624

>>4938615
Gamu?

>> No.4938656

>>4938624
I got you bro, it's grandia

>> No.4938663

>>4934113
The best aesthetic in my opinion. I absolutely love how the playstation fucks up the rendering so the 3d looks jittery as it moves. There's nothing really like it in any other art style. The second best thing is software rendering on early 3d games like thief or something.

>> No.4939554

It does solve the problem of buildings and perspective looking like ass in 2D JRPGs, I'll give it that.
But it still looks like blurry PS1 textures pasted on simplistic PS1 polygons, and the sprites look like cardboard cutouts. Just doesn't match the potential beauty of drawn sprites or the immersion of a fully 3D game.
All it really works for is giving a nostalgic aesthetic on newer hardware, like in Octopath.

>> No.4939701

>>4934223
Vandal Hearts 2?

>> No.4939758

>>4939554
post-processing ruins it entirely, though.

>> No.4939840

Star Ocean 2 on the PS1? I loved that game

>> No.4941719

>>4936493
Imagine having nostalgia goggles on so tight that you think Shining the Holy Ark looks even remotely that good.

>> No.4941749

>>4934113
Xenogears

>> No.4941972

>>4934113
>character sprites with low poly 3D environments

I always found that to be such an odd combination. I wonder why these developers did these hybrid sort of games. I always figured people would want one or the other. Never a combination of the two.

Is there anything that does 3D character models with sprite backgrounds?

>> No.4942051

>>4936549
>making Torneko a Jew
But anon he's supposed to be a merchant.

>> No.4942073

>>4941972
>Is there anything that does 3D character models with sprite backgrounds?
Resident Evil, Grim Fandango, Alone in the Dark, Final Fantasy, pre-rendered backgrounds are a very common thing in 90s games.

>> No.4942081
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4942081

>>4942051

>> No.4942412

Is OP trolling or just uninformed?

>> No.4942521

>>4936114
Because you are retarded. BoF2 looks better than FF6 and came in the same year.

>> No.4942534

>>4935907
>>4935975
The rocks are obviously a texture pasted over a 3d model?

>> No.4943509

>>4934601
lol so does dq7

>> No.4943590

>>4943509
That's the game I was talking about, genius.

>> No.4943863

>>4934113
BoF3
SaGa Frontier in battles
FFT
Wild Arms 2
BoF4