/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.493110]

ITT: things that turn you off immediately from games

>cards, dice, or roulette based battles in an RPG

[Anonymous No.493128]

isometric games with a dpad, especially with platforming

jesus christ

[Anonymous No.493132]

>>493128

Landstalker was a nightmare to play.

[Anonymous No.493151]

Overly long games with password systems

I really just can't be arsed to right down a new one every time I play

[Anonymous No.493152]

>>493128
I am still shocked that people ever recommended this turd.

[Anonymous No.493160]

>forced wagglin

refuse to even play this game, and the DKC series is one of my favorites. thankfully it's coming to 3ds with waggle removed

[Anonymous No.493168]

>>493160
One, this is /vr/ and that's not retro
Two, it's really not bad to jiggle the controller to roll or pound the ground, it still should have supported other controllers though.

Definitely not as bad as Metal Slug on the Wii. good fucking god

[Anonymous No.493186]

>>493160
>wagglin
the fuck is wagglin?

[Anonymous No.493191]

>>493110
Unlimited Saga...all of my hate

[Anonymous No.493202]

>>493186
What happens when a game is ported to the wii without support for the classic controller.

[Anonymous No.493219]

>>493160
That's because it's not designed around waggle. NMH on the other hand, was fun as hell to waggle in.

[Anonymous No.493236]

>>493168
>that's not retro

sorry. I related it to my love of the DKC series, just so autistics like you would be happy

[Anonymous No.493286]

>>493110
I don't know why but i've come across this many times. Boardgamers in particular seem to be divided between normal people and the "refuses to play anything that is the least bit random" crowd.
But then again as long as you admit it's a preference and not argue that it's "more realistic" then you're probably not like some unbearable people i've dealt with.

[Anonymous No.493339]

>>493128
DISGUSTING

[Anonymous No.493358]

>>493128
I really have to try this game again sometime just to confirm what I remember about the game. Controls were a bit of it, but I also remember getting stuck in a village when I was younger.

>>493160
If you don't care about having to use codes to make it better, there are codes that allow you to switch wagglan to B instead.

>>493168
The Japanese version of the anthology actually has Classic Controller support. It sucks that it wasn't in the US release for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.493536]

>>493191
Do you even reel? Landing on the techniques or success spots is skill based.

[Anonymous No.493574]

>>493110
Jumps like this one.

[Anonymous No.493576]

Infinite lives / continues

[Anonymous No.493589]

>>493574
>That's not frame perfect, there is a large margin of error.

[Anonymous No.493594]

>>493574
but that guy's head isn't even touching the ceiling

[Anonymous No.493596]

>>493589
Satisfied?

[Anonymous No.493627]

>>493191
>Unlimited Saga...all of my hate
I'm with you. And SaGa Frontier is one of my favorite games.

>>493536
Nah man, fuck that, it was bad enough having to use it for every actionon the map, but using it in the battle system was just lame and felt unfair. I wanted to like the game.

>>493110
Dialogue/text that I can't skip or scroll faster with a button. Looking at you, Xenogears.

[Anonymous No.493628]

>>493596
Yes

I can understand why you would hate that bullshit, but what game has more than 1 or 2 of these?

[Anonymous No.493641]

>>493110
>preferring a hidden RNG to an explicit one you can plan around

[Anonymous No.493680]

unskippable cutscenes

[Anonymous No.493692]

>>493628
Solomon's Key. Later levels are full of one-pixel precision jumps. But if you have the skill to get that far you've gotten the technique down.

Hoo boy, those later levels are total dildos. Love that game though.

[Anonymous No.493695]

>>493680
>unskippable cutscene
>die immediately after
>watch cutscene again
Good times.

[Anonymous No.493717]

>>493627
>but using it in the battle system was just lame and felt unfair
It is only as unfair as Legend of Dragoon, Vagrant Story, or any Mario RPG to be honest.

[Anonymous No.493718]

>>493692
and that image right there is why Solomon's Key allowed you to pause the game and kill yourself.

Seriously.

[Anonymous No.493727]

>>493110
But muh Judgement Ring!

[Anonymous No.493756]

>>493717
I played and beat all of those. The timing of the reels in Unlimited SaGa is much more difficult. I'm not a bad gamer or have no sense of rhythm. I bought it on day one, got disappointed and shelved it.

Picked it back up a few years later and tried, in earnest, to complete a scenario. Gave up after about ten hours. I can handle it on the map, but it just makes the fights really not fun. Again, I really like Frontier 1 and Unlimited was, to me, a let down.

[Anonymous No.493780]

>>493756
The timing is somewhat difficult, but the reels always repeat, and depending upon the skill level (like level three spears while using a spear skill) you will have more areas to land on to perform skills thus you'll see a pattern since each reel has a pattern of its own.

By the end game you pretty much have to be able to land on tier five constantly techniques to beat the bosses since they do the most life point damage. All I want to get across is that landing on a skill you want isn't random. With enough practice it will be easy, and since the reel doesn't stop until you say it stops makes it a bit more forgiving despite its speed.

[Anonymous No.493792]

>Low health
>BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP

I'd gladly take strawberry jam heartbeats in modern games over this crap. Any game that has this I simply cannot play with sound

[Anonymous No.493823]

>>493110
Super annoying tinny music which is the same on every fucking stage.

Still beat it.

[Anonymous No.493824]

>>493823
You... beat... Athena??
Maybe you mean the first stage. I've done that, myself. ONCE.

[Anonymous No.493831]

>>493792
>Pokemon B&W
>the low health beep-beep was integrated into the battle music

Definitely made it tolerable. But yeah, shit like that is horrible.

[Anonymous No.493848]

>>493831
I don't even care too much about it in BW, but it's the lesser of two evils.
I want it gone altogether

[Anonymous No.494154]

>>493824
There's that trick on the first stage where you sit on a mushroom for 5 seconds and get the best armor and weapon in the game. If you're good you can plow through the game then. Not a great game, though.

HOLY SHIT. I just realized something. SNK reused those green slime blob enemies in >>493823 for Crystalis.

[Anonymous No.494167]

>>494154
Forgot my pic. Same sprite. Hmmm, wonder if there's more.

[Anonymous No.494168]

>>493792
B-but Metroid...

[Anonymous No.494192]

Oh hey, a new RPG. This looks interesting, maybe I should...
>CARD-BASED
INTEREST LOST

[Anonymous No.494196]

>>493110
Anime art style.

[Anonymous No.494227]

No save/password system + limited continues.

[Anonymous No.494236]

>>494196

[Anonymous No.494263]

>>494236

Anime is terrible, nerd.

[Anonymous No.494275]

>>494196
If you're being serious, I'd like to ask why. That's probably the single most bullshit, close-minded reason to dismiss a game before you've even played it. Especially given the fact that probably well over half the video games ever created, nearly all of the hardware ever developed to play them were created by the Japanese. Not to mention a Japanese company is the only reason we even have video games post-industry crash.

[Anonymous No.494310]

Anything heavily based around hand-eye coordination. I know most games require some, and most retro games require a bit more, but anything from fighting games with long button combos and moves like Shoryuken to falling platforms while dodging spikes and enemies. Even if it's like Mega Man and I use Gravity Hold or a similar weapon, it's hard to focus on jumping while shooting and dodging spikes.
I also xXx420B1AZ3xXx all the fucking time so who knows.

[Anonymous No.494323]

>>494236
>>494275
Who cares why he doesn't like it. This isn't a "What makes a bad game" thread.

[Anonymous No.494339]

>>494263
Take a vacation.

[Anonymous No.494374]

>>494339
>implying I ever asked for this
>implying i ever asked for any of these things
>implying I would ever think of these things

[Anonymous No.494375]

>>494339

It's still terrible.

[Junes !CoRdettXZY No.494393]

>>494375
what is terrible?

[Anonymous No.494398]

>>494393
He's that faggot from /q/ that calls people weeaboos like a guy walking into a Klan meeting calls people racists.

[Junes !CoRdettXZY No.494412]

>>494398
Who?

[Anonymous No.494415]

>>494275
I'm not that guy but I am a bit put off by games looking a bit too "weaboo", certain tropes in more anime style games annoy me. I wouldn't dismiss a game outright for it though, that's just stupid

[Anonymous No.494416]

>>494339
I bet maybe 12 people on 4chan even know what row 19, column 4 is about.

[Anonymous No.494426]

>>494393
opinions about anime.

I can understand >>494196, without being snarky. While older games are fine, I really don't like the transition in anime art style from the late 90s and early 00s to what most of it looks like today. Like the Tales RPGs, I think they look terrible visually. No way could I play it.

Pic related, it's the style of many 8 and 16 bit games. Actually I'd love an anime retro board.

[Anonymous No.494441]

>>493727
OP here. This was the only good game in the series. Shadow Hearts 1 was so good...why did SH2 have to go in the wacky direction?

[Anonymous No.494469]

>>494426
An anime retro board would be awesome. There's definitely an audience for it.

Like /vr/ is /v/ without the kiddies, /ar/ would be /a/ without waifus and contemporary shounen shitting it up.

Have you ever noticed /m/ sometimes takes up this role and discusses retro non-/m/ anime?

[Anonymous No.494479]

>>494441
Are you thinking more about Shadow Hearts 3? That was the fucking wacky one. 2 had some bits but 3 went over the top.

>>494469
Yeah, I would like that too. I've tried a few times to start threads but the only thing that ever gets discussed is Hokuto, and then it's just manly tears etc etc.

[Anonymous No.494485]

>>494469
>Like /vr/ is /v/ without the kiddies

>he thinks this board is free of /v/

[Anonymous No.494489]

>>494426

The Tales games look fine though. Each and every single character has a completely distinctive appearance

[Anonymous No.494498]

>>494426
Most late 90s anime looks like shit. Very early 90s/late 80s is probably what you're thinking about.

[Anonymous No.494510]

>>494469
If we have a board for old video games and one for old anime, should we split /o/ into /oc/ (Classic Autos)? Maybe make a separate music board to discuss dadrock? Just how far do you want to take this?

[Anonymous No.494530]

>>494441
i thought both 1 and 2 were amazing. Some characters are weird but you just don't use them. Getting the amon fusions for yuri was always fun as hell. I will agree that 3 is far too bizarre though. I have yet to beat it after owning it for seven years.

[Anonymous No.494541]

What exactly is wrong with modern anime? I don't get the Voltron and Gundam nutriders.

[Anonymous No.494554]

Any 4th gen platform game that used "realistic" sprites, not even talking about licensed shit.

Fucking why.

>>494310

Not retro but
>That one ridicolously long ryu move in DoA4
>Kinda shit at Fightan gaems, manage to perform about half of it at best iirc
>Then even the easiest com pulls that shit
>Every
>Single
>Match

[Anonymous No.494558]

>>494498
Yeah, you're right. Mid 90s is really when the styles started changing.

Love me some 80s anime. Just watched Arcadia Of My Youth last night.

Anyways I emailed Moot and asked for an /ar/ board. Who knows.

>>494530
2 is definitely the best if you've played the first game. 3 is fun but pretty silly. I do like that "Indian" girl's magical girl transformation scene, though.

[Anonymous No.494559]

>>494275

I'm not against anime art style per se, but some games really shouldn't go all kawaii. It's the reason why I can't play newer Castlevania games. The series always lived from its gothic-ish atmosphere yet they deliberately destroyed it.

Not the guy you've asked.

[Anonymous No.494553]

>>494541
>>>/q/

[Anonymous No.494571]

>>494541
oh I don't know. maybe the fact that...EVERY GODDAMN ANIME NOW IS MOESHIT

[Anonymous No.494578]

>>494559
That's fine, because the newer Castlevania games are shit anyway.

[Anonymous No.494585]

>>494571
Please. Don't make me start cherrypicking and in return cause you to start cherrypicking.

[Anonymous No.494581]

>>494541
>I don't get the Voltron and Gundam nutriders.
I'm not one of those guys, there's modern stuff I like. I thought Madoka was great, there's been some other stuff. I just think most modern shounen and harem shit and absolute perfect moe waifu shows are tedious and not interesting to me, personally.

There was plenty of crap in the 80s and 90s too, of course. It's like retro games, I just like retro anime. I actually don't like most of the mecha stuff.

[Anonymous No.494584]

>>494571

Watch JoJo

[Anonymous No.494591]

>>494571
not same guy but

>disliking moe
you don't belong on 4chan

[Anonymous No.494587]

>>494558
>>494559
>>494581
And this is exactly why Persona 3 & 4 completely turn me off. I loved the first two and these newer ones are just hideous to me.

[Anonymous No.494595]

>horrible pallete and generally atrocious sense of design
nope nope

[Anonymous No.494602]

>>494585
How come Japanese kids could see nekkid lolis and fat dudes getting a boner after school, but we couldn't?

[Anonymous No.494603]

BOY I SURE AM GLAD THIS THREAD DID WELL. KEEP UP THE IMPRESSIVE WORK, /vr/. THIS BOARD GETS BETTER BY THE DAY.
this is why we can't have nice threads.

[Anonymous No.494607]

>>494584
It's "modern" but it's based on an early 80s manga, dude.

[Anonymous No.494608]

>>494602
because Hurp mah Christfag morals

Please enter the 21st century, America

[Anonymous No.494609]

>>494591

Muh pandering!

[Anonymous No.494620]

>>494614
And don't forget about /doom/

[Anonymous No.494621]

>>494614
Where you seriously expecting something else?

[Anonymous No.494612]

>>494602
>>494608
Pretty much. Fuck Christianity.

[Anonymous No.494614]

>>494603
/vr/ was shit from the start, don't delude yourself

clueless idiots who don't know anything about older games asking for recommendations all day combined with obnoxious nostalgiafags

[Anonymous No.494616]

I hate moe and it sure irks me to have those fucking pedo-themed loli banners staring at me whenever I press F5

[Anonymous No.494617]

Any game with no punishment for death.

I don't mean save abuse, I mean games with unlimited lives and/or continues.

[Anonymous No.494623]

Does somebody in this thread really haet loli... ?

[Anonymous No.494629]

My favourite anime is the 3 part mini series...

Cybercity Oedo 808

Also 3x3 eyes, fist of north star, doomed megalopolis, wicked city, ghost in the shell and AKIRA...

Alternate animation including a svanner darkly and the animatrix

[Anonymous No.494625]

>>494612
>>494608
here in Italy we saw uncensored anime and we're the freaking home of the Catholic church

[Anonymous No.494626]

>>494416
If you're still here, I've always been curious. Do you know?

[Anonymous No.494627]

>>494603
"I hate Anime" isn't even a new way to derail threads, yet it still works on /vr/ for some reason.

[Anonymous No.494635]

>>494614
The only board Moot added that's been truly good and worthy of life is /out/ simply because the subject matter has almost no possibility of inducing shitposting.

[Anonymous No.494637]

>>494625
Catholic is the key word in that sentence.
The catholics have nothing on US protestants on fundamentalism.

[Anonymous No.494638]

>>494625
Catholics don't care, it's Protestants.

[Anonymous No.494640]

Remember that time someone had an opinion in an opinions thread and 4chan didn't take it like a cock up their butt and de-rail the decent thread? Yeah me neither..

[Anonymous No.494641]

>>494635
>almost no possibility of inducing shitposting.
You're saying that "bring an assault rifle to your short day hike" is good conversation?

[Anonymous No.494645]

>>494640
>Yeah me neither..
It's like people expect this to happen.

[Anonymous No.494643]

>>494637
>>494638
Britain has never had a problem with toplessness on TV either and we're generally perceived as having stricter Anglo-Saxon morals.

[Anonymous No.494647]

>>494640
tfw forget to sage

[Anonymous No.494648]

>>494638

In Europe it's the opposite. Most protestants are Lutheran and pretty laid-back, the Catholics are always nagging.

[Anonymous No.494649]

>>494643
You guys are Anglican, you're actually closer to Catholicism than most protestants.

[Anonymous No.494651]

>>494647
You know sage isn't a downvote, right?

[Anonymous No.494652]

>>494648
yeah consider that Northern Europe are some of the most socially liberal societies on earth and they're all traditionally Protestants.

[Anonymous No.494657]

>that easy derailment

You fucking guys, this thread isn't even about bad things in video games, just things that turn you off personally. You weren't going to convince that guy that his preference was wrong.


Anyway, while I don't like it when a game doesn't punish you for dying like >>494617
was saying, I also don't like it when a game excessively and arbitrarily punishes you for it either. I'm playing Zelda II and there's no reason that it should make you go all the way back to the starting area every time you get a game over. It doesn't add to the difficulty, it just makes it tedious. It should just make you go back to the beginning of the dungeon like the first game.

[Anonymous No.494660]

>>494648
There's a divide between Latin Catholics and Irish Catholics. The latter are traditionally ultra-strict while the former aren't

[Anonymous No.494665]

>>494571
>implying
>what is Psycho-Pass
>what is One Piece
>what is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Don't believe everything /v/ tells you.

[Anonymous No.494668]

>>494649
Ah yes, the COE is just the RCC but with the British monarch as its head instead of the Pope

[Anonymous No.494673]

>>494635
I thought /out/ was only added to make it easier to make posts like this
>>>/g/
>>>/e/
>>>/t/

>>>/o/
>>>/u/
>>>/t/

or to make some other jokes.

[Anonymous No.494678]

>>494645
I don't expect it, but you'd think a board that was created within the past couple months wouldn't be 99% off-topic quite yet. I mean I've seen some shit but this is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.494679]

>>494614
You forgot the nonstop age wars between 30 yos and /v/eenagers

[Anonymous No.494681]

>>494607

Now now, you said nothing about the origins of the animes in question, dude.

Also
>Rubberbanding

[Anonymous No.494684]

QuickTimeEvents

[Anonymous No.494686]

>>494678
Most of the people on /vr/ used to post on /v/ and carried that shithole's culture into here. It's not at critical mass yet because the board is slow enough that our janitor can usually contain shitposting while /v/ is just too big to handle.

[sage No.494687]

>>494651
Obviously.
Disliked.

[Anonymous No.494690]

>>494640
Yes, I remember, it was many years ago

[Anonymous No.494691]

>>494684
Asura's Wrath was pretty cool

[sage No.494693]

sage

[Anonymous No.494703]

>>494668
Pretty much only little old ladies attend church in the UK excepts weddings and funerals, but COE clergy are usually bros who'll head down to the local pub and join the lads for a drink so who can hate them?

Besides that, the COE has great fall rummage sales.

[Anonymous No.494704]

>>494665

[Anonymous No.494713]

>>494686
If it's not cross contamination from /v/ that makes this board unreadable, it will be the development of religious wedge issues regarding CRTs, emulation, game versions, and the fight-picking shitposts that propagate them.

Every board becomes an autistic holy war battleground over a long enough timeline.

[Anonymous No.494718]

>>494693
It's pronounced saw gay

[Anonymous No.494724]

>>494554
Thats like in SF4 when C. Viper spams the flame kick, Zangief spams the pile driver and Sagat spams Tiger Shot

[Anonymous No.494749]

Good job, janitors.

>>494691
Yeah it was, but I still hate mashing buttons and shit. It's annoying and I have ongoing carpal tunnel type shit.

On topic: I fucking hate games that make you lose your power ups when you take a single hit from an enemy.

[Anonymous No.494774]

>>494643
>Britain has never had a problem with toplessness on TV either

i wish i was as young as you lot, and not be able to remember this old dyke-in-denial

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse

got on famously with the recently departed arch she-devil to get what she didnt agree with banned.

captcha : england wiezi
yes, yes it is, wheezing a sigh of relief those two are now been permentantly censored from life

[Anonymous No.494798]

>Jump is up and it's not a fighting game

[Anonymous No.494803]

>>494724
Those are all easily counterable if you have a good understanding of the game mechanics and put some time into practicing though.

It's like you guys are willing to be hardcore as fuck when it comes to singleplayer games, but when a human player is the one beating you instead of an AI, you give up.

[Anonymous No.494807]

>>494774
>i wish i was as young as you lot, and not be able to remember this old dyke-in-denia

Married and had 5 kids, so I would assume she was straight

[Anonymous No.494817]

>>494774
>got on famously with the recently departed arch she-devil

Put down that cannabis and that copy of the Guardian. It's affecting your mind.

[Anonymous No.494819]

>>494749
>Good job, janitors

this entire thread should just be killed. it's already ruined.

[Anonymous No.494827]

>>494819
I thought so too.

[Anonymous No.494832]

>>494819
Besides, people are going to look at all the dead links and wonder what the fuck is going on.

[Anonymous No.494838]

>>494832
Archive.

[Anonymous No.494843]

Roulettes that are supposed to be based on your timing are generally a pain in the ass.

Cards I'm okay with. Deck building is awesome.

The existence of dice just means they're making the random element that already exists in numbers calculations in almost every RPG more apparent. Not a big deal there, and it's a great mechanic in Crimson Shroud.

[Anonymous No.494850]

>>494838
good point. If you don't properly stake the vampire, he'll rise from the dead.

[Anonymous No.494853]

>>494819
>>494827
Hey, at least the janitors are trying to save OP's thread. Good on them, because it's an interesting topic.

>>494798
YES. I thought of this earlier, but I couldn't actually think of a game that did this.

Also: games with sliding ice levels.

Also: games where your character is constantly sliding, i.e. Adventure Island on the NES.

[Anonymous No.494902]

>>494803
Sounds like a thread

[Anonymous No.494921]

>co-op games with friendly fire
>co-op games that has a system where both players SHARE LIVES

Battletoads made learn to hate these kinds of things early in my lifetime.

[Anonymous No.494928]

>>494807
you dont go on tirades about homosexuality with that much zeal unless your trying to convince yourself, see ted haggard or any of the myraid of antigay preachers getting caught gargling the cock.

to salvage some relevance to the topic, i get instantly turned off when characters sexual orientation gets brought up when its virtually never relevant to a game, part of the reason i cant stand what used to be my favourite genre anymore.

[Anonymous No.494939]

>>494928
oh well what do you know, Ted Haggard also had a wife and 5 kids

[Anonymous No.494946]

>>494921
OH god, Double Dragon 2..

[Anonymous No.496265]

>>493110
Baten Kaitos
Not even once.

[Anonymous No.496276]

Framerate lower than 60fps, except in turn based games (eg. roguelikes) where it's tolerable.

[Anonymous No.499763]

bizzump

[Anonymous No.499809]

>>496276
I guess you never played Pokemon Pearl

that shit is horrible

fucking 20 frames on a fucking static battle images

[Anonymous No.499853]

Any type of escort mission, god damn.

[Anonymous No.499893]

Random encounters.
Sometimes I ignored them, but overall I cannot play anymore any game with them, I simply cannot stand them.