/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4928764]

What do you think about the strider games?

[Anonymous No.4928816]

>>4928764
I think that 1 is really a product of its time and kind of pointless. 2 was really cool, but suuper short. I really wish they had expanded his story a little more and used a different villain than the Grand Master again.

[Anonymous No.4928945]

>>4928764
I like them, but 2 is sort and doesn't let you save that I'm aware of.

[Anonymous No.4928961]

I've only played the NES one, and maybe it's the nostalgia talking since it was a childhood game, but I like it. It's not great, but it's good enough.

[Anonymous No.4928965]

2 has fucking insanely awesome gameplay and style.

[Anonymous No.4929000]

>>4928965
>unlimited continues
Nah, it's trash and you're a faggot pleb.

[Anonymous No.4929015]

>>4929000
>games must be hard so I can compare myself to others!

[Anonymous No.4929017]

>>4929015
>games must be casual to cater to my talentless lazy ass!

[Anonymous No.4929019]

>>4929017
>I put all my effort into being good at games and neglect my real life!

[Anonymous No.4929020]

Remake is best in the series. They butchered the PC version and never fixed it though.

[Anonymous No.4929023]

>>4929000
He didn't even talk about the game's difficult, autismo.

[Anonymous No.4929032]

>>4928945
You can save in 2, only between levels though.

[Anonymous No.4929036]

>>4928764
I have only played 1&2 on PS1, but really liked them, had a good time. The fast paced hack and slash felt good. Dunno about the story though as my copy is Japanese.

[Anonymous No.4929038]

>>4929020
The remake had some really fun platforming, the character moved really well.

I kind of wished it didn't all take place in the same location, though. They tried to mix up the environments a bit but it didn't feel like it had as much variety as some of the previous games did. Something like the NES game with the remake's gameplay would be perfect.

[Anonymous No.4929039]

>>4929019
>I put zero effort in either games or my life aside from shitposting!

[Anonymous No.4929046]

Strider 2 rocks.

[Anonymous No.4929131]

>>4928764
1 is a game I've always wanted to like but just couldn't get into. I like 2 and the reboot a lot though.

[Anonymous No.4929164]

The first game is extremely overrated. 2 is good but i wish there was more techniques and a few more levels.

[Anonymous No.4929168]

Osman's better.

[Anonymous No.4929493]

1 is amazing. 2 looks and sounds good but it's easy as fuck and really short. All style, no substance.

[Anonymous No.4929529]

People put 2 in some kind of pedestal, but it's very short and also way fucking easier than it should be.

[Anonymous No.4930085]

>>4929019
>a person can only learn one thing at a time

[Anonymous No.4930131]

I think the original arcade was the best. It captured a sensation of momentum like nothing else I played at the time.

Strider 2 was competent, but the stage transitions were really jarring. Compare that to Strider 1 where you'd be in control through the entirety of stage 2 (mountain, cliff, base, air-transport thingies, aircraft).

I was never into the more "adventure" Striders (NES, reboot).

I couldn't get into Osman. The levels were too bizarrely designed.

[Anonymous No.4930142]

>>4930085
My point is that a games difficulty shouldn't come into play when deciding how good it is. If a game is fun to play but easy, that isn't a mark against it. If a game is fun and difficult, that's cool too.

[Anonymous No.4930258]

>>4928764
The first game is a “cinematic” game done right

Second game doesn’t have the same appeal

[Anonymous No.4930287]

>>4928764
I liked the first and metroidvania one made several years ago. This title, i don't acknowledge.

[Anonymous No.4930291]

>>4928764
Holy fucking shit, are you a Wizard OP? I am playing the Strider 2014 reboot and just finished the horrible NES game this morning (and now i'm trying to apply the recent Strider 1&2 patch but to no success)

As of right now, I'm fucking LOVING the games. Another classic game from capcom that I come to love now although these new reboots are muuuuch better in every aspect compared to the classic games from the NES days. (Strider arcade is still awesome, though)

[Anonymous No.4930293]

>>4930131
Agree with all.
Strider 1 was Capcom's CPS-1 in full form showing amazing set-pieces unlike any other game at the moment. Strider 2 was a 1999 game running on a hardware based on a console from 1994. Yes, the game was fine, but couldn't had the same impact.

Also, I still don't know If I prefer the new Hiryu's design. At least his redesign was better than the awful attempt of Sega with Joe Mushashi.

[Anonymous No.4930335]

>>4930293
>Also, I still don't know If I prefer the new Hiryu's design

Are you talking about his plasma scarf? I think it was a pretty neat idea, changing colors according to the cypher type you're using.

[Anonymous No.4930341]

>>4930293
>>4930335

I wasn't too sure if I'd like the design myself either but 4~5 hours into the game I can tell that they got it damn right. My only complaint is his hair for the in-game model when you get an upgrade, the close on his face makes it look like he has a bush on his head lol.

Also I never cared much for concept arts of any kind but the ones in this game are SICK

[Anonymous No.4930384]

>>4930335
Mmmmm, Im not too keen on the plasma scarf idea of the newer Strider. Too futuristic for a series that started being more steampunk like

I was talking about the 1998s Hiryu redesign that was first featured in Marvel vs Capcom. Even though I like that redesign, I also love Hiryu showing his face in the first game. It even looks more badass to me that way.

[Anonymous No.4930404]

>>4930384
>a series that started being more steampunk like
>Strider

He has a Saber-tooth panther robot and a mechanical eagle as partners, his sword can cut anything almost like paper, and there are androids with jetpacks in the games. WTF are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.4930528]

>>4930142
That's nonsense. I understand saying that difficulty shouldn't be the only thing determining game quality but saying it doesn't matter is absurd. You can't divorce fun from difficulty because to many (I would argue most) easy games get boring quickly. Games are about challenge optimized for a fun experience after all.

[Anonymous No.4930613]

>>4930404
I didn't say it was full 100% steampunk, but it has some touches like how a lot of enemies appear to be have joints or use wood like some old steampunk robots.

The point is that later games used a more cyberpunk setting, while the first game had more of a colorful science fiction and fantasy mix in the levels. There is not a single computer in the first game, but plenty of bizarre things like dinosaurs, kung fu masters, pirates, and of course, Meio who is basically a dark mage.

[Anonymous No.4930654]

So, is Strider a licensed game of the manga, or is the manga a tie-in that happened to be released before the game?

[Anonymous No.4930767]

>>4928764
Fun as fuck, but short. At least pic related, haven't played the first. Fucking awesome gameplay mechanics tho.

[Anonymous No.4930801]

>>4930528
>too many games get boring easily
That's subjective
>games are about challenge
That is also subjective

[Anonymous No.4930812]

>>4929020
>They butchered the PC version
How so? I have it on steam but haven't played it yet.

[Anonymous No.4931120]

>>4930812
Controller support is completely messed up and they never bothered to fix it. I think the only one that works fine is an XBox 360 gamepad. That's something everyone's pissed off about in the community hub of the game. I remember I was trying to use my PS2 controller, but it just wouldn't recognize it properly. I think your only option in that situation is to use the JoyToKey third party program and bind everything manually, but I gave up at this point and just played Strider 2014 using the keyboard with custom binds that someone on the capcom-unity forums made(because you can't rebind those in the game either...).
It's a great game, but the PC port feels like an afterthought.

>>4930654
I'd like to know this too. Thought it was the former, but they feature Hiryu in their games a lot for a licensed character.

[Anonymous No.4931185]

>>4929032
I couldn't find the option when I played, though.

[Anonymous No.4931340]

>>4930801
Yeah that's why I said "to many/most" instead of saying "to all". You are the one making absolute statements with "difficulty shouldn't come into play when deciding how good a game is".

[Anonymous No.4931378]

>>4931120
>I think the only one that works fine is an XBox 360 gamepad.

And this is a problem how? Literally every damn game uses Xinput nowadays, and you even have xinput wrappers in case you use some shitty console pad converter.

[Anonymous No.4931626]

>>4930654
As far as I know, It was a joint venture between Capcom and Moto Kikaku to release like a multimedia experience about these characters and settings (mangas, games, etc). It wasn't as successful as expected, so the project kinda died in the early 90s until it was brought back in 1998.

[Anonymous No.4931796]

>>4931626
>until it was brought back in 1998.

It was brought back because Strider was one of the most popular characters in Marvel vs Capcom, so they gave him a new game.

[Anonymous No.4932504]

>>4931796
Yep, That's why I have said 1998 (Marvel vs Capcom year), because the sequel is from 1999.
MVC was the game that gave him his second chance.

It's a shame very few people (if any) from the original game were still at Capcom.

[Anonymous No.4932525]

>>4928764
Strider 2 would have been awesome, if not for unlimited continues making it way too easy.

[Anonymous No.4932531]

>>4932525
Then 1cc it and go for S rank like you're meant to. What's the probem?

[Anonymous No.4933316]

I was 11 the first time I saw a Strider arcade machine and I was shocked (but also amazed) at how violent it was: having you kill animals and people (even women) with a freaking sword, a dinosaur exploding, etc. I'm surprised the game came to America practically uncensored.

[Anonymous No.4933337]

>>4933316

[Anonymous No.4933549]

>>4929168
It's a damn good game. It's the best Strider 1.5 you could ask for. Not sure if it's actually better.
god damn though, nothing really gets past how fucking cool Strider 1 looks though, Osman just doesn't compete quite as well

>>4930613
Eh, the first game takes place something like 2000 years before Strider 2. There's loads of computerized looking shit everywhere, too, I dunno what you're going on about there.

[Anonymous No.4934002]

>>4933549
I think it's pretty obvious Strider 2 is a much darker game and more cyberpunk in its style than the first game. Could have been just a change in tastes between the decades though, as the original 80s Shinobi was also much more colorful and less "technological", but Shinobi III became full cyberpunk too in 1993.

[Anonymous No.4934024]

>>4933549
>Osman just doesn't compete quite as well
man i thought osman was much prettier than strider desu.

[Anonymous No.4934206]

>>4934024
Well, one it's a 1989 game and the other from 1996, so it's easy to look "prettier". Nevertheless, I agree with the anon who said Osman is too messy and baroque. Also, their character and setpiece designs are not as memorable, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.4934241]

>>4928764
I thi- SHING SHING SHING SHING SHING SHING SHI-SHI-SHI-SH-SH-SH-SHING.

[Anonymous No.4935163]

>>4934024
Osman is a more recent game and will naturally look prettier... but Strider is way more stylish.

[Anonymous No.4935184]

>>4931120
>Controller support is completely messed up and they never bothered to fix it. I think the only one that works fine is an XBox 360 gamepad.

and it works flawlessly, bub

[Anonymous No.4935549]

>>4931120
To be fair, there are tons of games that barely support or simply don't support other controllers. Even relatively big modern games like Cuphead have spotty controller support.

[Anonymous No.4937006]

>>4935163
Yes, you can't compete with Capcom coolness: Hiryu, Captain Commando, Dante, Demitri, Ruy and Ken, etc. Hell, even Sir Arthur is cool in his own cartoony-but-serious way

[Anonymous No.4938240]

>>4928764

Is this even playable? I tried emulating it with the latest ePSXe version and I was barraged with lag and stuttering everywhere. Is it my fault or is the emulation not good enough yet?

[Anonymous No.4938465]

>>4938240
>Is it my fault
Is your fault. You could also try another PS1 emulator that you don't need to configure.

[Anonymous No.4938707]

Why did all the Strider ports made by Tiertex end with the whole mission not being real?

[Anonymous No.4939649]

>>4931120
>plays games on PC
>doesn't have a 360 controller

[Anonymous No.4939717]

I've been playing Strider 1 on MAME and I just can't play it longer than 10 minutes. The sound of the sword is such an unpleasant piiiiiing, it's ear raping. The romset is supposed to be 100% fine. It sounded great on Amiga.

[Anonymous No.4939721]

>>4939717
In an actual arcade, the sword sound helps it stand out against all the noise of games around it.

[Anonymous No.4939723]

>>4938707
Not to piss off the Russians because the iron curtain was gone and noone knew where it was going.

[Anonymous No.4939725]

>>4939721
Oh shit. That sounds plausible. Time to get some background noise in my living room then.

[Anonymous No.4940735]

>>4939725
Yes, he's right. That's why a lot of arcade games from that era have certain sounds or voice clips at a much higher level than the music or other less important sounds. It was to help you notice it from all the noise of the arcades. I remember games like Bad Dudes having voice and hit samples so high that you couldn't even hear any of the game's soundtrack.

Nevertheless, the Genesis version of Strider has better audio, in my opinion (as long as it's on real hardware).

[Anonymous No.4941928]

>>4938240
I can play it on my five-year-old phone with no lag, you just suck, man.

[Anonymous No.4942190]

>>4931120
>I think the only one that works fine is an XBox 360 gamepad.
Unfortunately that's slowly been the norm for PC games with controller support for like the last six or seven years.