Diablo & Diablo II General 7

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Diablo & Diablo II General 7 Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:28:24 2018 No.4928647 [Reply] [Original]

Figurines Edition aka "I hope I don't fuck this general pasta up" Edition

> Best D2 wiki out there
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Main_Page
> > RESET WHEN
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73916272
> Guide to rune hunting in LK current to 1.13+
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/1-13-lk-patterns.764531/
> Unified Guides and builds on jsp
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69506039
> D2 drop calculator
http://dropcalc.silospen.com/item.php
> > incl. classic
http://mfb.bplaced.net/dropcalc/index.php
Cool D2 promo, concept artworks, monster renderers and more
http://www.mobygames.com/game/diablo-ii/promo

> Version 1.13d, for running off-realm, third-party mods and utils including plugy
http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/diablo2exp/patches/PC/LODPatch_113d.exe
> PlugY injector for improving your SP experience
http://plugy.free.fr/en/index.html
> 3dfx-voodoo glide wrapper, for lighting the way it was meant to be seen
http://www.svenswrapper.de/english/
> Median XL mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/medianxl
> Back to the Hellfire mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/back-to-hellfire
DIABLO1
> Last semi active D1 community
http://tristr.am/
> Jarulf's Guide (every game mechanic & stat for D1)
http://www.bigd-online.com/JG/JGFrame.html
> D1 game engine engineered
https://github.com/dgengin/DGEngine
> Ironman challenge
http://www.realmsbeyond.net/diablo/vironman.html
> Unofficial patch for Hellfire + convenient optional features
http://lurkerlounge.com/belix/HellfireProject/Help&Info.htm
> Bnet-compatible, unofficial Diablo patch for modern systems
http://diablopat.ch/index.php
> HD Belzebub mod
https://mod.diablo.noktis.pl/
> Diablo The Hell mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/diablo-the-hell
> D1 being reversed engineered
https://github.com/diasurgical/devilution

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:32:19 2018 No.4928651

>>4927890
>use automatically generated TP after killing Andariel
Wrong.
>don't do anything except talking to Warriv and going West
Wronger.
>once in Lut Gholein do nothing, quit the game
Wrongest.

Stop spreading horseshit from botnet and the forums.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QytBWQEBS4

Literally ALL you need to do is talk to Warriv after you killed her, BEFORE you safe and exit. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:33:41 2018 No.4928653 Previous thread: >>4895856

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:49:20 2018 No.4928680

>>4928651
Thanks for the help. Chill out a little, friend, I think people mostly always got extremely careful around the Andy bug and would rather do all of those silly measures to try and 100000% ensure it happening because it'd be pretty awful to lock yourself out of it somehow.

Also, don't you just have to talk to *any* NPC in Act 1 after killing Andy but before you save & exit?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:51:38 2018 No.4928684

>>4928680
>Also, don't you just have to talk to *any* NPC in Act 1 after killing Andy but before you save & exit?

Haven't heard anything about that, but I'll probably test it later. Fortunately it takes like 20 seconds to blast through act 1 with a fire druid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:15:50 2018 No.4928725 >>4928647 Dayum, the left Diablo sum got tiddies and child bearing hips

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:20:04 2018 No.4928729 File: 403 KB, 1080x1417, leah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4928725 >tfw you will never have cute babies with diablo in a females body

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 06:16:20 2018 No.4929505 File: 23 KB, 640x430, 1487584712435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw two soj rings in one day

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:52:27 2018 No.4929682 >>4929505 proof?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:10:25 2018 No.4929710 Did you guys watch the speedrun at ESA yesterday? Was it good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:27:50 2018 No.4929743 >>4928729 I like when western artists know how to draw feet properly

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:34:40 2018 No.4929749 >>4929710 No, I missed it, and speedruns are really boring anyways.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:30:57 2018 No.4929940

>>4928651
I've heard things like 'it has to be the first time you've ever talked to warriv that game' and shit like that and I've never seen someone properly investigate it. I'm not going to be convinced we really know how it works until someone is posting disassembly.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:05:04 2018 No.4930504

>>4929940
Sure thing Thomas. In fact, just to be on the safe side, make sure to close and restart the game directly after killing the boss. It simply won't do activating the bug if you haven't seen the code for yourself. Someday, someone will post it, and then you can start using it.

All the rest of us need to do is this: head east in the same game. That's it. People sitting in town getting rushed get the bug too. The only way you won't get bugged is if your game crashes or you exit after killing the boss but before going east.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:21:47 2018 No.4930545 Ten years ago this month I bought Diablo on psx. I've never made a friend or had anyone accept my invitation to play(I've asked) in that ten years.. I'm a sad panda. Any one in michigan want to play diablo?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 17:45:27 2018 No.4930723 >>4930545 You mean co-op at your place?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 20:06:51 2018 No.4931081 >>4930723 Or the other parties really, solo psx diablo the only guy to play as is the knight, I can get to the 4th level, bu tI didn't buy the game for solo play. I'm sure coop.diablo is fun as shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 22:16:59 2018 No.4931331 I got the gull dagger. It has 100% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items. I have other items that give better chance of getting magic items. If I use those items along with Gull would I get more than 100% Chance of Getting Magic Items

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 22:23:44 2018 No.4931345 Is there a mod to share items in diablo 1 single player?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 22:28:31 2018 No.4931354 >>4931331 This might be interesting for you: https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Magic_Find#What_exactly_does_.2BMF_do.3F

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 22:31:40 2018 No.4931359 >>4931331 Yeah but have you considered not being a retard? >chance to drop x item is 2% from y monster >2 + 100% >4% >>4931345 Diablo Torch. http://tristr.am/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=88&sid=b1401ce2ab6ffa177ad47300bd1215ec

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 23:44:45 2018 No.4931484 This is probably heresy, but is there a mod in diablo 1 that gives me all of the unique items in new game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 23:57:19 2018 No.4931524 >>4931484 >mod Don't be silly, just download an item pack and use a character editor to import them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 00:02:51 2018 No.4931532 >>4931524 Thanks for showing the way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 03:13:42 2018 No.4931798 Haven't played a sorc in a long time, forgot about all the mana pot chugging. That can't be healthy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 03:22:55 2018 No.4931814 File: 61 KB, 960x540, 2475.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4931798 I wonder what they taste like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 04:33:16 2018 No.4931898 >>4931814 Ink maybe?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 10:42:12 2018 No.4932303 File: 1.98 MB, 360x323, 1389989488431.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw took me around 4 hours to realize it's the actual word ink and not a retarded abbreviation like tfw/mfw/desu/etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 12:45:50 2018 No.4932547 >>4931798 >not just tossing tir runes into every piece of equipment you have Mana potions are for suckers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 12:49:12 2018 No.4932552 >>4932303 Let Nathan Know ...what it tastes like

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 12:54:03 2018 No.4932567 >>4932552 But it's an I, not an L.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 15:10:46 2018 No.4932821 >>4932547 this is really not a bad idea at all for early game except i'm busy throwing topaz in all those slots bro...

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 15:15:02 2018 No.4932831

so i'm going to attempt a single pass clear for my next run. i don't want to do a sorc because that seems easy, since with synergies and a halfway decent orb you can do fine with shit gear as long as you hybridize a little bit. but on the other hand, i want to do a build that can run with a variety of gear and still perform. i've cleared the game recently with a zeal paladin (tesladin, I think), an MAsin, and a sorc. A barb seems like an obvious choice for a not-so-gear-dependent option, but i've never finished the game entirely with a barb, I get kind of sick of slow kill speed early on. I was thinking of trying out a shapeshifter druid. you guys think i'd have a shitty time with that? anyone have any feedback on single pass runs in d2?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 16:06:30 2018 No.4932912 >>4932831 I think, wind druid (fire until mid NM) and trapsin can be good choices; they are very strong in single player.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:37:07 2018 No.4933117 File: 15 KB, 292x153, 2829resmara-02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many amulets and rings design are there? And is the image representing the amulet/ring an indication of it's rank/value?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:40:20 2018 No.4933126 >>4933117 3 no

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:40:50 2018 No.4933128 >>4933117 Three amulets and five rings...and no, the image is just random flavor. In my grail I am quite close to getting every amulet looking like the one you've highlighted there and every ring as the blue square one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:45:31 2018 No.4933147 >>4933128 That's sad, because the best looking amulet is the pentagram one. How unlucky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:47:38 2018 No.4933151 >>4933147 That's some shit taste you have there. Pentagram one is clearly the worst.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:50:48 2018 No.4933156 >>4933151 >he doesn't know opposite day isn't today

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:54:33 2018 No.4933167 File: 97 KB, 1567x688, wbt346nw34b634n7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933156 Your Jewish tricks don't work on me, Chaim.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:58:19 2018 No.4933176 >>4933167 Good think you googled it, and now you know, because you thought it was today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:59:35 2018 No.4933181 >>4933176 Ain't my fault you have objectively wrong taste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:17:23 2018 No.4933224 >>4933181 >said anon in the mirror

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:20:38 2018 No.4933226 >>4933224 >yet he still responded

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:38:59 2018 No.4933265 >>4933226 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:54:00 2018 No.4933298 >>4933265 >Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:55:26 2018 No.4933303 >>4933298 ???

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:57:09 2018 No.4933307 File: 24 KB, 317x432, 1429792247835.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933303 Don't worry, anon. One day you'll figure out it's not just used for quoting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 18:58:12 2018 No.4933312 >>4933307 What is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:02:36 2018 No.4933323 File: 194 KB, 1024x1557, 1525822800438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933312 >he still hasn't realized See, like that. Now fuck off. You've obviously super new.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:03:22 2018 No.4933325 >>4933323 What are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:04:17 2018 No.4933326 File: 31 KB, 323x323, 1531948166290.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933325

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:05:46 2018 No.4933330 >>4933326 Sick reaction image, /b/ro!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:06:52 2018 No.4933332 File: 259 KB, 800x600, lel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933330 >still mad over reaction images Will never not be funny

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:10:22 2018 No.4933336 >>4933332 Who's mad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:11:08 2018 No.4933338 This is so boring.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:12:29 2018 No.4933341 >>4933338 Are you still running NM LK? You should stop already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:13:30 2018 No.4933345 >>4933338 It'd be a lot better around here if >>4933341 that guy left.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:17:37 2018 No.4933352 >>4933345 It'd be a lot better around here if you stopped shitposting and spamming stupid shit, and stuck to lurking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:26:51 2018 No.4933356 >>4933352 Coming from the one who started it with that opposite day shit. Fucking rich.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:27:50 2018 No.4933358 >>4933356 Coming from the one who got triggered and went on a shitposting spree over an amulet icon.

>>	Private Server Thu Jul 26 20:41:28 2018 No.4933481 Name: SRoVQ Zone: 6 IP: 192.223.31.204 Warden: Off Mod: Konkey Dong http://www.mediafire.com/?nyc122n77lok2cl

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 22:10:02 2018 No.4933628 >>4932831 >A barb seems like an obvious choice for a not-so-gear-dependent option >stuck on a single weapon type >really bad unless you have good gear I can't think of a character that is more reliant on gear.

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 22:41:03 2018 No.4933675

>>4933628
why is barb stuck on a single weapon type? do you mean because of masteries? if i was doing single player i'd think it was implied that i'd hold off on the weapon mastery until i found a neat weapon that i thought i could run with. plus there are respecs now. i just meant that with natural resistance, iron skin, high life, and the ability to invest in masteries to do a lot of damage with multiple weapons, a barb can definitely make better use of an average drop than most other classes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 22:44:53 2018 No.4933679 >>4933675 Sorc is by far the least reliant. You can just teleport away when shit gets rough. Everyone else has to run away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 22:46:52 2018 No.4933683 >>4933679 well yeah, i know sorc is the least reliant, i mentioned it and said i didn't want to do one, but i have a feeling you are the plugy autist who is going to tell me to use a sorc anyway because it's optimal

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 01:45:35 2018 No.4933928 >>4933683 Imagine having paranoia this bad to the point where you think everyone on an anonymous imageboard is one very specific person out there trying to get you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 01:49:10 2018 No.4933930 File: 70 KB, 900x900, 1532124271921.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933928 >he was right top kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:07:29 2018 No.4933950 >>4933930 Who are you quoting?

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 03:31:46 2018 No.4934029

>>4933675
>a barb can definitely make better use of an average drop than most other classes
Alright, that is an entirely different matter, and which I would agree with. The only items that don't make sense for a barbarian are bows and crossbows. Even wands, daggers and other spellcaster gear can be useful if you are playing a war cry barb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 06:41:25 2018 No.4934210 >>4934029 yeah, and i actually see what you are saying as well. a barb is so reliant on weapon damage and stuff that if you don't find SOME good beatstick at some point before late NM/Hell you're probably going to be in some trouble on single pass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:22:37 2018 No.4934514 File: 526 KB, 800x600, Screenshot004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >changing just two columns can make frozen orb shoot a row of meteors like an airstrike It amazes me how easy it is to make fun new skills.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:26:55 2018 No.4934525 >>4934514 webm?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 14:39:25 2018 No.4935146 File: 593 KB, 1767x890, spooky.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4933928 > 20 posters It's probably 3 people larping as 12 and effectively posting as 1

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 16:16:16 2018 No.4935369 >>4935146 What are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 17:43:05 2018 No.4935572 I understand and have used cold, fire, lightning, physical, and poison. But what the hell is magic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 17:50:35 2018 No.4935591 >>4935572 paladin's blessed hammer, foh necro's bone spear/rit barb's berserk others

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 20:15:47 2018 No.4935957 File: 38 KB, 593x600, paskapuhetta-mutta-uskon-p38r7v.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4929505

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:35:16 2018 No.4936618 Me (Barbarian) and my archer merc (rouge) Just keeps dying in the Tal Rasha's Tombs whenever there's a unique monster around. Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:42:02 2018 No.4936628 >>4936618 Get rid of the rogue and get an A2 defensive merc. Or get some better gear for more survivability. Or do a few runs to go up a few levels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 06:50:30 2018 No.4937236 >>4936628 used high defense and high attack magic equipment, instead of the rare and unique. It works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 07:24:55 2018 No.4937294 I died again. Is there a mod in diablo 2 that signals to the player low on health, visual or sound cues?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 07:51:44 2018 No.4937330 >>4937294 plugy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 07:56:37 2018 No.4937335 >>4937294 Jesus christ there's a large, red orb on the screen. Can you not just look at that? It's pretty big.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:53:45 2018 No.4937706

>>4937294
There are a bunch of ways you can approach that.

>make an aura that gives negative light radius inversely proportional to percentage of maximum life
>making a sanctuary aura that has rapidly increasing/decreasing radius as you approach death
>give your character a passive 100% cast when struck that creates a projectile when hit that is increasingly flashy with lower amounts of life
>change the in-game UI so that the life orb covers the entire bottom of the screen
>make an invisible, intangible, passive blood golem with infinite leash range and 100% of damage taken from player
>turn the stamina bar and mana orb into additional life orbs
>install one of those maphack programs which always come with life warnings

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:10:30 2018 No.4937739 File: 110 KB, 895x597, 5931950068_81e70a4a86_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how hard is beating the game with a zealot on hardcore

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:27:07 2018 No.4937779 >>4937739 One of the easiest to do it with.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:23:40 2018 No.4937938

>>4937739
paladin is op as fuck, that entire fucking game is unbalanced as fuck

>how hard is beating the game with a zealot on hardcore

>lawbringer in phase blade
>treachery armor
>4 perfect diamonds in pala all res shield
>get max block
>get crushing blow from items
ez pz

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:35:40 2018 No.4937964 >>4937779 >>4937938 >no escapes >no way to get out when surrounded >has to kill mobs one at a time >damage isn't all that good Zealots suck ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:39:44 2018 No.4937975 >>4937964 >no escapes save and exit rest is just shitty game balance, any caster can faceroll to hell with crap equipement while melee chars need solid gear for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:44:09 2018 No.4937985 >>4937975 >save and exit Stopped reading right there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:05:25 2018 No.4938036 is diablo 1 as boring as i remember? im debating downloading it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:20:53 2018 No.4938071 >>4938036 it is good for a playthru or two every decade but that is about it i honestly don't know how I spent hours and hours playing it as a kid, hell same with d2 really

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:30:48 2018 No.4938094 >>4938071 For me it was the aesthetics of the games, and trying to find cool uniques, because I was too dumb to google a list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:32:42 2018 No.4938101 File: 550 KB, 800x600, TOOMS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4937779 >>4937938 >>4937964 Wish me luck lads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:34:00 2018 No.4938105 >>4938101 go holy fire untill hell

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:34:22 2018 No.4938106 >>4938101 Just respec to hammers when you get to hell or late nightmare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:40:05 2018 No.4938134 >>4938106 he wants to play zeal

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:47:39 2018 No.4938150 >>4938134 He wants to beat the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:53:17 2018 No.4938162 File: 531 KB, 800x600, tooms2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4938105 >>4938106 >>4938134 currently going holy fire for now, lvl 7 from the blood moor, i'm going to try to never repeat an area twice is that possible to do & beat the game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:54:35 2018 No.4938169 >>4938162 Everything is possible, just be yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:57:30 2018 No.4938178 >>4938162 >i'm going to try to never repeat an area twice >is that possible to do & beat the game No, it's hack&slash game. You will have to grind same area countless times over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:58:39 2018 No.4938184 >>4938178 Not true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:00:46 2018 No.4938192 >>4938184 show me how you reach level 40 before going nightmare without repeating same area

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:02:14 2018 No.4938195 >>4938192 Google "Diablo 2 single pass"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:03:57 2018 No.4938202 >>4938195 >Google "Diablo 2 single pass" >"his assumes that the player will play at /p8" yea, p8 for first playthrough is a great idea

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:04:38 2018 No.4938203 >>4938202 Did he say first playthrough? I thought he sad single pass.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:31:57 2018 No.4938257
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>>4938169
>>4938178
>>4938184

My bad I should have said, I have played before but never beaten the game, i've set the players to 8

These are my stats just entering stony field after doing cold plain + burial ground

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:35:05 2018 No.4938263 >>4938257 >not using scimitar

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:37:19 2018 No.4938264 >>4938192 >>4938202 What now, bitch? >>4938257

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:38:42 2018 No.4938270 >>4938264 that's not a normal playthrough you dumb faggot, it's literally using cheats

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:42:49 2018 No.4938280 >>4938270 What's that got to do with me, autist? He can play how ever he wants to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:57:11 2018 No.4938328 File: 555 KB, 800x600, tooms4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4938263 scimitar better for speed? almost died in underground passage to a combined pack of lightning orb spitting guys, skeleton archers and fallen camp

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:58:39 2018 No.4938334 >>4938328 >almost died in underground passage to a combined pack of lightning orb spitting guys, skeleton archers and fallen camp And it's only normal. Can't wait for you to get to hell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:34:42 2018 No.4938396 File: 571 KB, 800x600, tooms5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4938334 Yeah I think it's going to be pretty rough, i'm not going to save and quit the level either if I'm in a bad patch. found this decent ring off griswold

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:48:26 2018 No.4938426

Never played any of the Diablo games, but I knew a bunch of Seniors in high school that spent all their free time on II and they'd do this thing where they summon like a million skeletons and nearly break the school computers. There any good videos of this kind of character build?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:56:54 2018 No.4938441 >>4938426 summoner necro is the shittiest build and it still relies only on ce

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:40:44 2018 No.4938630

>>4938178
>>4938184
>>4938192
I've posted it before but if you go /p1 and never revisit areas and fullclear every level, you end Normal at level 36, it was based on my own experience and a dude who blogged a lot of HC /p1 single pass. Unfortunately it was shouted down by a dude who claimed nobody ever plays that way, but yeah, single pass full game is possible, just more difficult. It's certainly possible in Normal and Nightmare, in Hell you need to be good with maximizing your resource use (crafting, gemming, getting multiple damage sources) or simply patient about your weaknesses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:41:53 2018 No.4938632 What's the difference between helms and circlet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:46:07 2018 No.4938638 >>4938632 different affix pool, different qlvls, magic_lvl basically they have a wider range of mods (and better ones) for the same ilvl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:49:12 2018 No.4938648 >>4938630 >it was shouted down by a dude who claimed nobody ever plays that way Not true, stop being so self obsessed and autistic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:52:46 2018 No.4938658 >>4938638 I'm guessing what you're saying is - circlets are helms that has better magic but less defense in the same requirement.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:23:41 2018 No.4938720

>>4938426
>>4938441
Summon Necro can literally beat the game naked because it only needs to pump +skill to be effective, and any character will get to at least around 90~ skill points before the game ends. You have an endless wall of skeletons and a golem who slows bosses down, a curse gives you an answer to every challenge - it's very safe. Many people say it's boring, but it's certainly unique in a way.
All Necro builds generally want to invest a lot of hard points into Corpse Explosion as its the most efficient screen clear. The basic philosophy of Necro is "generate a corpse, use CE to generate more corpses, destroy everything on the screen". Summon Necro can be a bit slowpaced at times, particularly while levelling, but it is extremely self-reliant (curses, CE, and ridiculous amounts of survivability) and a good candidate for your first ever Hardcore attempt, or for a casual high level area farmer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:32:52 2018 No.4938742 >>4937964 >he plans his gear so poorly that he actually needs an escape Got us a sorc player here boys, methinks. Pally is dogshit easy to clear HC with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:34:10 2018 No.4938746 >>4938742 >plans >in a game where you get your gear randomly You're pretty stupid my guy lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:35:10 2018 No.4938748 >>4938441 >relies only on ce But that's bullshit. Best =/= only viable option. Stop being a dumbcunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:38:58 2018 No.4938757 >>4938746 If you really think you have no control over gear choices through a normal game, you're even more brainless than I realized.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:42:53 2018 No.4938764 >>4938757 Non enough that a zealer would be easy to beat Hell with. Stop talking, you're clearly used to playing an overleveled and geared build. Compared to how much easier hammers are, a zeal build sucks for beating Hell.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:48:53 2018 No.4938774

>>4938746
Of course you can make plans. If you drop a 2 socket Very Fast one-hander in Act 1, that right there is your best option for a Steel in the early game and you should probably stash it until you get the Tirel (which should not be far away). You can scum vendors without breaking any rules (including single-pass) to get a Plated Belt or a solid armor that grants some nice +life, or a Bone Shield of Deflection from Drognan to help against Duriel. My untwinked/ladder starter meleers save some chippies to reroll elite magic weapons (particularly Polearms) until I can get a Cruel one, as a backup plan in case nothing ever drops. Keeping a PMH javelin around from a vendor is a nice way of speeding up against bosses. You can collect fairly mundane items to guarantee a really nice beatstick for your A2 merc in the form of a Savage Polearm cube recipe.

And of course, grinding until you find a particular item is also a form of plan, e.g. "I really just want to play a Ribcracker build". In fact, a lot of the ladder starter rush comes down to just executing a plan - starting with an MF sorc to establish a budget from Hell Meph uniques, farming up for other efficient characters, usually culminating in an Enigma and/or HotO for your cookie-cutter Hammerdin. Come on, it's not that hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:50:09 2018 No.4938776 >>4938774 tl;dr

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:51:59 2018 No.4938780

>>4938764
>you're clearly used to playing an overleveled and geared build.
>looks at my 3 self found HC zealers who I took through HC hell no problem

Whatever you say, chief.

>Compared to
...aaaaand there it is. You can never stop comparing everything to the top build, can you? Just play your theorycrafted 100% min maxed sorc build and leave everyone else alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:56:31 2018 No.4938793 >>4938780 How's your paranoia going, schizo?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:57:16 2018 No.4938794

>>4938764
>a zeal build
Which one?
Fanaticism Zealots have it the hardest, yes, but there are ways to help them out:
>in SC, you can even use two-handers for increased damage output and forsake a shield
>there are some really cheap items you can get at a bargain price for pgems or, if single, often find yourself without much hassle, like the Angelic set for all AR woes
>when your weapons are shit you can just craft elite weapons (Blood Nagas can be pretty decent), or save a Charsi imbue, or reroll with chippies, or vendorscum, until you finally get a blue weapon with high ED%
>upgrading decent Normal and Exceptional weapons is available too
>mercs are not too hard to make survivable and efficient (Smoke armor, Obedience thresher, rare helmet) and they can help out with shortcomings (Blessed Aim, Defiance, Holy Freeze, Might)

Holy Shock Zealots are traditionally pretty strong and fast at all stages of the game (they only really care about IAS% for max elemental damage, and they have plenty of ways to enhance their defense so they're safe) and are rather fun to play, too.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:02:02 2018 No.4938806

>>4938794
>>in SC, you can even use two-handers for increased damage output and forsake a shield
>literally mentioned difficulty in clearing
>he suggests to drop the shield and lose free defense stats
>on a melee paladin no less

Didn't read the rest, you have brain damage.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:04:23 2018 No.4938809
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>>4938263
Switched to scimitar and it doubled my damage probably, also found death's sash and hand on my way to andariel and the set mods are unreal. I'm starting act 2 now at level 21

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:08:56 2018 No.4938820 >>4938809 >he already found the belt and the gloves in like 3 minutes of gameplay >I still don't have them for my grail after a month Umm, hello?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:09:52 2018 No.4938821

>>4938806
Why do you bother on focusing and cherrypicking the shit out of one out of the many suggestions? What is the point of doing so? How is it even constructive? Most people's problem with playing melee is that it's harder to find a powerful beatstick than it is to just pump +skills and drink mana potions.
Ribcracker zealots are very fast killers (so are Ribcracker furywolfs), if you find a really good twohander it's not the end of the world to use it, especially as I disclaimed that I mean Softcore, where you don't necessarily need to max out on defense (and you can often make up for it by positioning and care).
>literally mentioned difficulty in clearing
If Hell is your roadblock then most melee builds generally erase Nightmare well enough that you can simply stay there for a little longer.

Anon wants to play a Paladin as a knight who swings a sword and is on the frontline. It's dishonest to say that there's only one build that matters and it's equally dishonest to say that there won't be any problems, but I, at least, provided some solutions to those problems instead of bitching.

All you do is sit in this thread and tell people, regardless of their intent, care, need for challenge, class fantasy, or whatever else, is that they should just give up and play cookie cutter shit and in that case these threads are fucking pointless. We're here to have a discussion instead of not even attempting to refute claims.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:12:19 2018 No.4938825 >>4938820 They drop much more frequently in normal. also >Umm, hello? Fuck off, reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:13:59 2018 No.4938828 >>4938820 i was pretty astonished to find them both, part of me was disappointed because I'm sure I won't replace either of those slots potentially ever

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:16:38 2018 No.4938831 >>4938821 tl;dr

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 23:02:09 2018 No.4939165 File: 97 KB, 640x480, screen00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time playing Diablo 1. Feelsgoodman.jpg Any tips/tricks that may not be well known?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 23:05:10 2018 No.4939171 >>4939165 those shrines you've been touching can permanently change your character

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 23:11:12 2018 No.4939183

>>4939165
Some monster i.e. yellow zombies and maybe some others, will permanently drop your hp when they hit you. You can leave shit on the ground in town and it will never despawn unless you start again with the same character, so pick up what you really want before you kill diablo/reset. You can also buy potions of +1 stat every time you go to town from pippin, for 5K gold from memory. Super useful.

Also you should probably add the Hellfire expac if you haven't already. It gives you some more stuff to find/do as well as unlocks nightmare and hell difficulties in singleplayer.

Oh and open a wiki on the shrine page, it'll tell ya what some do. Good idea to save scum them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 23:11:54 2018 No.4939185 >>4939171 Fuck, I opened like 50 goat shrines. Should've read up on that beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 23:12:59 2018 No.4939187 >>4939183 Oh and you can get really good gear upgrades from gris/adria if you look at what they sell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 23:15:49 2018 No.4939191 File: 416 KB, 500x383, PastColorlessBoubou.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4939183 >>4939187 Thanks. I actually stumbled upon a very decent headpiece from a blind gamble with Wirt.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 00:27:29 2018 No.4939323

>>4938178
No you don't. Someone beat the entire game on /players 8 only going through areas once as an amazon using only white javelins, throwing potions and valkyrie. Pretty much any spellcaster, summoner and elemental damage dealer can beat the game under single clear rules.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:11:03 2018 No.4939504
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Just realized Frenzy is not an attack but a buff.

Anyone here uses macros? I have a strix pro keyboard and mouse. What macros are useful for the barbarian?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:48:06 2018 No.4939823 >>4938809 kill cow king in normal like 25 times and you'll get death's sash

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:51:51 2018 No.4939826 File: 237 KB, 898x886, 1475304637792.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw just dropped Sur and Mal at LK at the same time

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:23:21 2018 No.4939869

>>4938720
>Summon Necro can literally beat the game naked
FUCKING BULLSHIT

you will have hard time killing diablo on normal because skeletons deal piss poor damage and have no hp

>Many people say it's boring
because no one want to spend 5 minutes killing one fucking trash mob

Summoner is the worst fucking build for necro.

>>4939504
>Just realized Frenzy is not an attack but a buff.
you're dumb. Frenzy is an attack and it has way more damage and attack rating than double swing

>What macros are useful for the barbarian?
there are no macros for any class in this game. I was using ahk to spamclick charge while playing PoD but in normal D2 there is no use for it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:43:15 2018 No.4939893 >>4938105 >holy fire until hell what? i would go until mid NM at the most. monsters in a4 hell have way better fire resistance than lightning. i respecced around act 4 NM and the increase in damage was ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:48:32 2018 No.4939903 >>4938793 >different guy was right will you just accept that everyone can pick your fucking autism up out of hundreds of posts and leave already

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:54:01 2018 No.4939909 >>4939893 until hell means you respec when you go to hell difficulty or at the end of nightmare >i respecced around act 4 NM this is what it means exactly

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:54:29 2018 No.4939910

>>4939165
Played through D1 for the first time this year as well. Such a beautiful game. I never thought about how minimalist it is before but I think that's easily its biggest strength. Straight forward, no nonsense, feels like the logical conclusion to the original Rogue in a lot of ways. Absolutely incredible atmosphere. The one thing keeping me from calling it a masterpiece is the way the end game revolves too much around potion spam.

Looking forward to playing D2 but I know they're much different games. But D1 is art.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:19:03 2018 No.4939958

>>4939869
>you will have hard time killing diablo on normal
It's certainly not as easy as other classes, but that's the price you pay for such a safe class.
I still wouldn't knock the summonmancer off as a bad class, because clearing the game is very much doable, from personal experience.
You can beat the game with pretty much everyone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:32:01 2018 No.4939981 >>4939903 Literally who are you quoting, schizo? Take your medicine.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:44:13 2018 No.4940002

>>4936618
UPDATE:
I did it /vr/, me and my merc rogue survived the six fake Tal Rasha's Tomb without dying.

I feel I need to do this before progressing in the story. I think I did the right thing because I've developed some strategies in dealing with some situations (those electric bugs, giant mummies with poison that lasts forever and unholy bolt, monsters that release poison when they die)

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:45:53 2018 No.4940005

>>4939958
>such a safe class
show me how this shit is safe. Skeletons are fucking glass and they deal no damage. You need a lot of +skills to do anything

If you want real damage, real safety and have fun, go with bonemancer. Leveling with teeth is super easy, you get bone armor for physical damage reduce, bone wall + bone prison for maximum safety and you can actually deal damage and solo everything

>1 point in skeletons/revive (+skill bonuses from items) to get some cannon fodder
>pop bone shield
>lock any boss in place with bone prison
>cast decrep on that faggot
>summon clay golem for extra slow
>pierce his asshole with bone spear until he dies

This is fucking fun build, not literally standing still fot 57 minutes waiting for your skeletons to kill 5 trash mobs

>>4940002
read this:
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Mercenaries#Act_II:_Desert_Mercenaries
and get desert merc

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:08:41 2018 No.4940053 >>4940005 Not him but isn't bone spirit better than bone spear later on? I had a boner necro back then and also remember him to be rather expensive when it comes to gear.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:08:54 2018 No.4940054

>>4939869
>you will have hard time killing diablo on normal because skeletons deal piss poor damage and have no hp
Use decrepify, clay golems and cold damage. Diablo will be so slow and incapable of doing anything that he might as well be a Fallen One. A summonmancer that makes proper use of all of his skills is virtually unstoppable in PvM, even without equipment.

>because no one want to spend 5 minutes killing one fucking trash mob
Bullshit. Skeletons easily do around 120 damage just at normal max, and skeletons scale massively since the numbers, base damage and % damage all increase with levels. Just with 40 skill points, they'll be doing 760 DPS, which is fine for killing trash even in Hell difficulty since you need just one corpse and then everything else dies instantly. Now factor in revives, which by hell difficulty become absurdly strong, and you'll be stomping content effortlessly.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:24:08 2018 No.4940090
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>>4940053
>isn't bone spirit better
it's shit and it doesn't pierce

>>4940054
skeletons are fucking dog shit, get that through your fucking head

>skeleton attacks 3 times per 4 fucking seconds
>raise skeleton level 50 + skeleton mastery level 52 will give 990 damage to one skeleton
>highest possible skill level is 57 for summon skeleton and 59 for skeleton mastery and it requires literally perfect rare items

At the same time level 80 necro with NO GEAR AT ALL has ~1000 damage from bone spear which pierces everything in sight

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:38:31 2018 No.4940107 >>4940090 >it's shit and it doesn't pierce Also slow as fuck IIRC. Didn't posion necros become fun in some recent patch?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:40:32 2018 No.4940110 >>4940107 poison necros require tip top gear with perfect poison facets in every socket and they are still crap

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:49:36 2018 No.4940121

>>4940090
Yes, bone spear does do more in damage in the most unfair scenario possible. Remember that skeletons are capping out at 760 DPS at level 36 with 4 extra skill points, and you are comparing it to a level 80 character with 12 extra skill points. Now also consider that gear is far more important to a skelemancer than it is to a bonemancer, with bone spear damage increasing linearly with +skills, while raise skeleton increases exponentially. Also, unlike bone spear, curses massively increase the damage of raise skeleton. Raise skeleton is not shit by any means, it is the safest and easiest way to beat all content trivially, and becomes a quick killer when corpse explosion starts getting to higher levels.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:56:29 2018 No.4940134 >>4940110 poison necros need basically nothing to rape p1 they never, ever do well at p8

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:03:15 2018 No.4940145

>>4940121
>level 80 character with 12 extra skill points
no extra skill points in my pic, just a quick char made in open battle net server so in theory you've got 12 extra points to put into synergies

I don't know what is your point here because i literally proved you wrong.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:29:44 2018 No.4940195
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>>4940090
>>4940121
>>4940145
here is a comparsion between bone necro and skelly necro. Same char, level 80 (+12 extra skillspoint, +15 stat points), no gear, no merc, hell difficulty

Bone:
https://streamable.com/dmw7l

Summoner:
https://streamable.com/hzyau

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:34:48 2018 No.4940210 >>4940195 Why'd you die on purpose bro? You have to redo these.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:39:26 2018 No.4940219 I've never, ever played Diablo. Could you guys give me a tl;dr on what I need / what I should do / know to get started? I'm feeling like playing D2 solo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:43:45 2018 No.4940228 >>4940219 Watch some youtubers like dbrunski, or better yet, get plugy and go in blind, and have a blast.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:44:55 2018 No.4940229

>>4940210
>Why'd you die on purpose bro?
i knew im going to get shit for that but i didn't feel like trying again. It took me couple tries because skeletons were dying super fast to ranged mobs.

Important thing is that in the same amount of time the area is cleared with boner while summoner got zero corpses to explode.

Having crap gear will make it super fast on boner while it won't change much on summoner because skeletons attack very slow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:45:57 2018 No.4940234 >>4940229 >>4940210 also it wasn't on purpose, i was kiting light charges and got hit by javelin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:47:10 2018 No.4940239 Why couldn't a different team of artists make Diablo 3 look like a Diablo game?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:48:07 2018 No.4940240

>>4940145
>level 18 (17+2 skill points)
>bone spear: 72.5 DPS
>raise skeleton: 192.5 DPS

>level 24 (23+2)
>bone spear: 247.5 DPS
>raise skeleton: 365 DPS

>level 30 (29+4)
>bone spear: 469 DPS
>raise skeleton: 577 DPS

>level 38 (37+4)
>bone spear: 791 DPS
>raise skeleton: 763 DPS (~1526 with amplify damage)

>level 50 (49+6)
>bone spear: 1114 DPS
>raise skeleton: 763 DPS (~1526 with amplify damage)

>level 60 (59+8)
>bone spear: 1368 DPS
>raise skeleton: 763 DPS (1251 with might) (~2502 with amplify damage)

>level 70 (69+9)
>bone spear: 1623 DPS
>raise skeleton: 763 DPS (1251 with might) (~1980 with amplify damage)

>level 80 (79+12)
>bone spear: 1923 DPS
>raise skeleton: 763 DPS (1425 with might) (~2138 with amplify damage)

When you factor in a might mercenary and amplify damage, skeletons are doing more damage ungeared even at level 80.

>>4940195
Add in revives and a might mercenary. The much larger area of effect of corpse explosion will allow you to clear that pack much faster than you would with bone spear. The survivability of that is complete bullshit too, in your bone video you are only getting hit by archers, while in the skeleton video you are facing slingers, which have piercing attacks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:50:51 2018 No.4940248 >>4940234 Come on bro, you clearly stood there taking arrows to the knees (haha get it) to try and make bone spear look better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:58:10 2018 No.4940263 >>4940239 Because Warcraft III Blizzard has been all about that bright, cartoony design and nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:15:59 2018 No.4940292 >>4940263 Do you think it's because of early LCDs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:21:43 2018 No.4940302 >>4940263 Warcraft 3 was alright for the most part, but WoW really started messing with the art style. Blizzard North, who made Diablo what it was, is now practically defunct. Most of the original staff just left. Hence the differences between D2 & D3.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 16:52:58 2018 No.4941053

>>4940219
you don't need to know anything, for real. leave the general and play. you'll have the most fun exploring characters by yourself for a little while. once you've played through a bit come here for new build advice or search for some good build ideas you think you'd enjoy, but it's the most fun to just play and explore. the possibilities look pretty endless when you're just getting used to the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:23:40 2018 No.4941130 >>4941053 >the possibilities look pretty endless And then you realize you only need a sorc and a smiter. ;_;

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:29:20 2018 No.4941404
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alright lads i'm entering act 3 at level 26

resistances at 60-60-75-75 still running with holy fire and zeal, using a rare scimitar with 10% IAS, is it worth respeccing to holy shock or is the damage pretty much equivalent

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:30:52 2018 No.4941413 >>4941404 I wouldn't at 26, but holy shock is overall a stronger build. But since you're playing plugy you can respec at will anyways and try it out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:31:03 2018 No.4941416 All this bonemancer talk made me start one after many years. Totally forgot how fun Teeth is, especially with big Fallen camps.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:03:45 2018 No.4941476

>>4940195
as other anons pointed out, bad summoner gameplay isn't representative of the class
>no points in Dim Vision, Attract or Decrepify when you need more defense than just spamming Amp Damage
>mentioning that ranged packs rape your skeletons in a different post when Dim Vision in particular would entirely shut down the ranged packs while the skeletons close the gap, and if your build can afford 18 points into Amp Damage (wtf) it can afford to put them in a curse that actually needs the points
>standing in place while pretending to dodge javelins when your Defense is reduced to 0 while running (not that it matters much at this point because you have no health and don't even attempt to try and LoS the enemies so that they don't attack you), not putting yourself in a spot where you simply won't get hit because the AI will prioritize something else
>not recasting Golem immediately upon his death, instead pretending you're doing something by constantly recasting Amp that is still on the mobs
>taking free hits when you can just stay out of LoS entirely
>bone necro quaffs mana potions to sustain constant bone spam, summon necro isn't outfitted with any life potions when he really doesn't need to drink nearly as much
>no Attract + Amplify Damage combo for bonus crowd control (less damage to troops, faster corpse generation); Attract isn't removed by Amp Damage
the fact that you can't effectively pilot seemingly the most safe, "boring and braindead" build in the game is beyond me
back to the drawing board, the one you left at NM Lower Kurast

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:21:02 2018 No.4941501 >>4941476 Actually I was joking with him, summoner necro is trash.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:25:21 2018 No.4941507

>>4940195
>>4941476
and also
>no Revives
the only reason Bone looks good here is because you actually made a fully synergized build (everything synergizes Bone Spear) and put some effort in whereas your Summoner has 18 points in Amplify Damage for some godforsaken reason, not even a single Skeleton Mage just for a bonus body, some possible token cold damage, and making actual use of the 20 Skeleton Mastery
and then you slam 10 points into Golem Mastery but then don't bother recasting your Golem, and if you're going naked-challenge then I can't believe you can't afford to make an Iron Golem for bonus damage and survivability (Clay really doesn't do anything for you in this fight, Clay is primarily for bosses) from any of the items you do find since they're all personally useless to you
this fight would look much different with some Dark Rogues or whatever else you find while collecting your mobs (assumedly in Act 1 Cold Plains or Blood Moor) was in the backline shooting at Eldritch's pack, or if you had a few points in some different curses (DV or Attract to fuck up the slingers), or if you didn't play like shit
>>4941501
of course Summoner Necro is trash if you play it with your fucking feet and make shit +skill choices

would you consider it valid if I made a "Bone" showcase video where I initiate the fight by walking into the mobs (later explaining that I was "trying to cover them more with my Teeth"), focus on casting Bone Spirit, and use Bone Prison to lock myself in place so that I can't run away when the Slingers start shooting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:26:06 2018 No.4941510 dammit I wanna play diablo I but I just can't even tried to dosbox it yet to no avail now what

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:41:57 2018 No.4941546 File: 102 KB, 155x151, Duriel_(Diablo_II).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4940002 >UPDATE Duriel kills me in seconds. Any tips to beat him using a Barbarian. None of that 'run to the portal "strategy"' please. That just feels wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:50:59 2018 No.4941570 >>4941546 Thawing potions, health potions, lifesteal. That's as good as you're going to get if you refuse to portal out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:55:45 2018 No.4941582 >>4941507 No, it's still ass.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:56:45 2018 No.4941585

>>4941546
>Duriel kills me in seconds.
We all been there, done that. Don't worry, Duriel is a notorious roadblock to Diablo beginners.
>Any tips to beat him using a Barbarian
Buy a whole bunch of Thawing Potions, drink 5-6 before the fight, and keep a few around to unthaw yourself - Thawing Potion does two things, unfreezes you and gives you a temporary Cold Resistance. Thawing Potions stack duration length if you drink a whole bunch of them at once.
Get a whole bunch of healing potions, this is an endurance match.
Equip a Shield with as much block as possible (Drognan sells Bone Shields of Deflecting, you can keep rerolling his stock by running out of town and back in) if you're still taking too much damage.
Crushing Blow really helps if you have any.
You are probably level >18 while facing Duriel, so I hope you picked up a point in Battle Cry in the War Cries tree, it's a solid debuff in any fight. You can keep refreshing it no problem occasionally between swings, because at this point of the game you're likely using either Double Swing or Concentrate to fight, and neither of those costs (much) mana, you have plenty to keep shouting. And on the topic of shouts, of course make sure you're refreshing your Shout and possible Battle Orders (you might be clvl>=24 at this point) whenever they run out.
When all above precautions are met, you pretty much just have to whack Duriel until he dies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:47:58 2018 No.4941702 File: 133 KB, 479x262, spiritedaway.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4941546 post your weapon and level

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:01:29 2018 No.4941727

>>4941702
level 26
two military pick (magical, one leech MP, the other one leech HP)

>>4941585
>Equip a Shield
I like these tips, but is there a dual wielding option? I can't role-play properly if I'm not dual wielding axes with my female archer rogue merc.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:17:32 2018 No.4941753
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>>4941727
are you on players 8? my advice would be to go gamble on or just buy some better axes

if you have a tir + el you can make two steel runewords maybe duriel will bleed to death

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:31:05 2018 No.4941779

>>4941753
>players 8
Is this some sort of setting?
I'm on single player. That's all I know.

>gamble
I don't have much money because I keep dying in the six fake tombs.

>buy
That's the best axes I can buy in this act.

>runewords
I guess it's time to use my runes. I'm saving it up for a better gear later in the game.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:57:02 2018 No.4941818

>>4941779
the runes he's suggesting you use (tir and el) will drop literally hundreds of times by the time you're making good runewords, don't worry. you'll be ignoring them completely soon enough. he is right about steel, find two socket weapons or gamble. magical military picks will not do the trick. also, you shouldn't really need mana leech. ditch it for something better. this is the biggest roadblock you'll have for a while, stick it out. duriel is tough.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:59:01 2018 No.4941823

>>4941779
Players 8 is a setting, I was wondering because I also just hit duriel and I'm level 26 on players8.

usually I pick up wands and staves, scepters because they sell for a lot of gold, I gambled on some nice stuff. I guess barb is just hardest class in the game for single player

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:02:49 2018 No.4941826 >>4941823 barb is slow going because most skills are single target and also basically require having a good weapon to get 'great' early on, where most other classes can be 'great' early on by just investing heavily in a skill or two.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:20:36 2018 No.4941848
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>>4941826
i think if he found two two ethereal military picks with savage, slaughter, and solider modifiers he would still die to duriel

that would put their damage at around 15-50

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:40:31 2018 No.4941876 >>4941546 does leap stun-lock act bosses like it does everything else?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 00:21:14 2018 No.4941934 >>4941848 >ethereal I didn't know that these gears have 2x stats. I've been completely ignoring them throughout my play-through.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 00:22:25 2018 No.4941935
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>>4941876
Almost no boolean disables work on act bosses. None of these work:

>stun
>attract
>conversion
>knockback
>confusion
>freeze
>blind
>terror

The only exception is dragon talon knockback, which I think works against everything in the game, although with worse odds of working against stronger monster types.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:17:36 2018 No.4942093

>>4941507
>your Summoner has 18 points in Amplify Damage for some godforsaken reason
to increase the curse area because there were no other skills to pump points in

>not even a single Skeleton Mage
because mages deal no damage, they are absolutely useless. They deal ~400 max damage while maxed out with mastery and your average trash mob in hell has over 10k hp

>I can't believe you can't afford to make an Iron Golem for bonus damage and survivability
iron golem is even more useless than mages for damage, he is only good for insight aura (until he dissapears for no reason 3 minutes after sprawning)

>DV or Attract to fuck up the slingers
that's a fucking hack and slash game, you don't stand and wait for hours until the mobs die. You blast everything on your screen as fast as you can and move on. This is my point. Why would anyone waste his time having trouble witht trash mobs knowing that he stands no chance agains unique bosses?

If you want to level up as a summoner and have decent damage go and play path of diablo. You can even do mages only as elemental summoner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:21:59 2018 No.4942097 >>4940210 >>4940240 >>4941476 >>4941507 >all that talk and no one made a video to prove how great summoner is

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:15:42 2018 No.4942145 >>4942097 The worst things about them are having to spawn your army every time you start and handling them properly without teleport, their AI in general isn't that much fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:21:04 2018 No.4942148 >>4942145 shit, i actually forgot about most important thing which is their fucked up ai >mobs in front of you >skeletons rush in other direction to kill door YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT PLAYING SUMMONER WITHOUT TELEPORT

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:58:00 2018 No.4942179
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>>4941546
UPDATE:
Killed Duriel
I think I over did it.
Now he died in less than a minute.
I think I've only used around seven health potions.
I even forgot to use the thawing potion.
>upgrade my rouge's gear (topaz to armor and helmet) and rare bow.
>Put all the stats in vitality
>barb skills - battle order, double swing, frenzy, axe mastery
> rings, pendant, charms, belt, boots, gloves that help against cold, raises attack rating and basic stats
> put diamond gems on armor and helm
> put malice on the two military pick.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:01:36 2018 No.4942184

>>4942093
>You blast everything on your screen as fast as you can and move on
This is exactly what you do as a summonmancer. Your minions+merc kills a single enemy, your multiple screenwide corpse explosion then kills everything in a few casts. Just because you purposely play summonmancer wrong doesn't mean it is bad. The main initial damage dealer of the summonmancer is not skeletons, it is your mercenary + revives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:02:05 2018 No.4942185 >>4942148 Or when you leave them behind and suddenly they spawn about 10 yards in front of you, causing you a heart attack because you just see some weird skeleton with an aura running at you in the dark at Mach 5 speed.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:19:16 2018 No.4942197

>>4942184
>Your minions+merc kills a single enemy, your multiple screenwide corpse explosion then kills everything in a few casts.
Right, so what is the point of playing as a gay summoner with shit damage when you can play bonemancer and actually deal damage? What is the point of playing a class that requires shit ton of specific gear when other build can do it way better?

>main initial damage dealer of the summonmancer is not skeletons, it is your mercenary + revives
FUCKING EXACTLY, a skeleton build where your main damage comes from a fucking merc

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:24:22 2018 No.4942202

>>4942197
Yes, but your mercenary is going to be completely fucking worthless without the wall of revives and skeletons tanking damage. Either you are going to be spamming bone walls, which prevents him from dealing damage, or you will let him tank and be paying 50000 gold every minute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:28:39 2018 No.4942205 >>4942202 >your mercenary is going to be completely fucking worthless without the wall of revives and skeletons tanking damage are you trolling or being a retard for real? how do you think other classes play with merc?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:31:33 2018 No.4942207

>>4942093
>to increase the curse area because there were no other skills to pump points in
I mentioned no less than 3 other curses you need to properly manage situations and fucking Revive. You are wilfully ignoring them, or you can't read. Hell, the core of RS/SM/CE/a point in each curse is so flexible and self-sustaining you could even slap Bone Spear and some synergies into it, enjoying a decent Bone Armor and your favourite skill to help you with making a corpse. Instead, you made a shit build with 10 Golem Mastery (which you then promptly failed to resummon when it died) and 18 Amplify Damage, supposedly for AoE range and duration - but then you still kept spamming it on mobs instead of doing something useful
>because mages deal no damage, they are absolutely useless
None of the reasons I stated for putting mages into your army mention damage. Mage is a bonus dummy and a possible cold-tagger for chill effect. No reason not to have one unless you're worried about him aggroing mobs you don't want (which was not the case here), esp. since it's a prereq to Revive, which, again, would have made all the difference.
>iron golem is even more useless than mages for damage
You can make him out of relatively cheap items that won't be of any use to the necro himself, like IK maul or Hwanin's Justice, or just any sort of item with decent stats. Iron Golem is the weakest suggestion here, I admit, but having one would still have shown some fucking effort, especially since you weren't keen on resummoning Clayton.
>that's a fucking hack and slash game, you don't stand and wait for hours until the mobs die
Not an answer. You stood there and recast Amplify uselessly on a group of mobs that was already entirely tagged and sat in range of shooters. What you SHOULD have done is Dim Visioned the Slingers, Attracted one of the mobs and then cast Amp. Damage so that the mobs focus him down and not your army (Amp Damage DOES NOT cancel Attract, so there is NO reason not to do it).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:32:36 2018 No.4942208 >>4942205 They have stupidly overpriced gear that is so good that the mercenary could literally solo the entire game, while you are specifically talking about a case where we are naked, and I'm assuming the mercenary would be too.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:37:49 2018 No.4942212

>>4942093
>Why would anyone waste his time having trouble witht trash mobs knowing that he stands no chance agains unique bosses?
Except Summonmancer has absolutely no fucking problems with bosses. Decrepify and Clay Golem spam causes bosses to be rendered absolutely inert, and they die. You can Revive monsters that have Crushing Blow or just a lot of decent damage ability and simply pound the boss until he dies. Summonmancer is actually pretty fast against bosses.

You are so fucking painfully misleading it's a fucking disgrace. Every 50 posts there's a new player asking for advice and all you fucking do is spread this retarded and poisonous filth, full of misinformation and bias for absolutely no fucking reason. Fact is, Summonmancer is the safest HC build in the game and has always been one. There's literal years of data on this. Summonmancer has been recommended as far as d2jsp as a starter HC character for people fresh to HC. If you actually play Summonmancer properly, the only way you can die is negligence because you can often fight without being on the screen with the mobs.

I'd like to see your Bonemancer stand his ground against fucking Gloams or any other remotely threatening pack when you don't know how curses work and refuse to utilize them for crowd control.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:29:49 2018 No.4942218

>>4942207
Do the video with NAKED summoner to prove how great the build is

>>4942208
My entire point from the very beginning is that bone necro is a way better build than summoner when it comes to fucking everything. Every class can do sort of well with perfect gear.

>>4942212
>Except Summonmancer has absolutely no fucking problems with bosses.
> Revive monsters that have Crushing Blow
no problems but you need very good gear and look for specific mobs to revive in order to kill a fucking act boss

>Summonmancer is actually pretty fast against bosses.
only in the best case scenario with good gear and specific revives. If the build can't do shit without specific gear it's not a good build

>new player asking for advice
that's my point with this shit

>new player will ask for advice
>faggot like you will tell him that summoner is great (while you have in mind fully geared lvl 99 char)
>he will start playing as summoner
>he will give up before blood raven because clearing speed is atrocious

>I'd like to see your Bonemancer stand his ground against fucking Gloams or any other remotely threatening pack when you don't know how curses work and refuse to utilize them for crowd control.
like you can't use fucking curses as a bonemancer

>remotely threatening pack
bone prison the fuck out of them, problem solved

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:36:04 2018 No.4942220

>>4942179
nah dude, you're doing fine. this is the fun way to play d2. experimenting and killing bosses the ways you can. you are a little overleveled, but that's normal for a first playthrough. the next act should be pretty easy on you, just move forward slowly or you'll get fucking mobbed by flayers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:39:13 2018 No.4942226 >>4942220 >you are a little overleveled >reaching lvl 26 before killing duriel that's fucking overkill i just hope he wasn't doing it on players1 because it seems like a lot of grining to get that high in act 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:52:25 2018 No.4942251 File: 765 KB, 1001x1001, 1475137360125.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4942179 good job anon

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:18:16 2018 No.4942290

>>4942226
>>4942220
i mean, yeah, it's overkill, but playing on your own for your first time as a barbarian means duriel will shit on you, probably a lot, so it makes sense. it probably did take a lot of playing to grind that much, but if he did tombing it probably wasn't THAT bad. plus he'll be able to get through 3 and 4 more easily without having to worry about levels. by the time he hits act 5 he'll probably be caught up level-wise (or caught down). survivability will fly up big time once he gets a few points in natural resistance along with his monster vitality he currently has.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:27:53 2018 No.4942312 >>4942290 i guess he doesn't know what he is doing BUT having the ability to reset stats/skills at any point is a HUGE advantage and he should be able to fuck up duriel at level 14

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:40:06 2018 No.4942338 >applying your long-developed knowledge of autistically playing this game for years to a situation when the player in question is literally just starting the game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:57:54 2018 No.4942369 >>4942338 >player in question is literally just starting the game player asked for advice and he is getting it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:04:54 2018 No.4942382 >>4928647 lol those figures make me so sad. how diablo fell from being ultimate badass monster to this pretty fucktoy bitch with long legs that looks like kill la kill enemy

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:48:13 2018 No.4942448
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>playing a shitty Diablo 2 mod
>been running through various characters for around 50 hours
>decide to roll a new character since my current ones all turned out terribly
>change my save file to hacked characters so I can see how the new character's skills will end up scaling into the late game
>change the save files back after I'm done, while Diablo 2 is still open
>all my real characters are there, plus one hacked character I still had open in-game
>quit and go to one of my real characters
>entire shared stash was replaced with the hacked character's shared stash, which had nothing in it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:20:15 2018 No.4942764 >>4942448 >I'm a big fat idiot All I read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:48:52 2018 No.4942826 >>4942448 what's the shitty mod

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 18:39:52 2018 No.4943073

>>4942218
>Do the video with NAKED summoner to prove how great the build is
there is no point, your gameplay was shit, called out on being shit, and you don't need to make a counter video to prove that, your level of play was on the level of a gaming journalist
>no problems but you need very good gear
no, summoner literally works off scraps, doesn't even need fcr like a boner does, skellies are easily replenished and you're by far at the least risk of dying, this has been shown and proven constantly
>If the build can't do shit without specific gear it's not a good build
this is on the level of "javazon can't do her job if she doesn't get a javelin, shit build, 2/10"
fishyzons have been valid MFers and full game clearers since forever
>faggot like you will tell him that summoner is great (while you have in mind fully geared lvl 99 char)
no, literally only you assume that
>like you can't use fucking curses as a bonemancer
no, it's just you who shows you can't use curses at all
>bone prison the fuck out of them, problem solved
stop posting already, problem solved

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:14:45 2018 No.4943152 you are both retarded because the best option is to invest in both

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:17:02 2018 No.4943159

>>4943152
we talked about this all along
every necro build gets corpse explosion anyway
nothing says you can't slam 20 points into something like Revives or a golem on Boner either, you have plenty of points after maxing out the synergies
some guy even posited that the summoner core is so lax that you can hybridize with bone
necro is perhaps the most flexible character

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:28:11 2018 No.4943974 >>4943073 so far all you do is cry and you showed nothing. How about you show how you kill diablo, mephisto or council with crap gear? oh wait, you won't because the video would took hours

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:13:51 2018 No.4944036

You guys left me no opportunities...

I'm starting a new char this year, single mod, with plugy this time. But i'm tired of starting every year with a MF Sorc to get some stuff.

I want to try this time a Javazon, will that be hard to succeed in hell mode, without any stuff provided by the MF Sorc ? I hope i will get some lucky drop by the time i will get there.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:09:05 2018 No.4944153

>>4943974
>you showed nothing
you showed less than nothing, that summoner gameplay you proposed made you out into a quadriplegic playing with his nose
>diablo, mephisto or council
again: just because you can't cast decrepify and recast clay golem (yes, there is tangible proof you yourself posted that says you don't know to recast clay golem) doesn't mean everyone else has learning deficiencies
stop posting
>>4944036
>I want to try this time a Javazon, will that be hard to succeed in hell mode, without any stuff provided by the MF Sorc
not at all
javas are plenty strong, zoom through the game like a full caster, get a spammable tank and later are always welcome for farming cows for runes and white items and maybe for Shenk/Eldritch/Pindle
either go full lightning and simply rely on merc to kill immunes (or run away from them) while causing murder to everything else, or hybridize with Frozen Arrow (can be easily made competitive with a +skill bow), Strafe (if you get a nice dmg bow, like Witchwild String or Harmony in elite ama bow) or Plague Javelin (my least favourite option, it never went efficient for me).
also get a couple of hard points in Pierce

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:51:44 2018 No.4944221

>>4944153
>you showed less than nothing
>area cleared in 40 seconds with bone
>skeletons start dying in 40 seconds and still zero dead bodies to explode

>cast decrepify and recast clay golem
do you understand that my point is that summoner is dog shit because of his killing speed you fucking retarded faggot? make a video of you killing any boss

inb4 more excuses because you know it will take forever and you will only prove my point

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:47:42 2018 No.4944271

>>4944221
>do you understand that my point is that summoner is dog shit because
because you don't know how to manage your minions, set up crowd control (which doesn't override amp damage) to help your skeletons survive and you don't know how to use your golem
if you made a video specifically made to show how a downie would play summoner then you succeeded at that, congratulations
stop posting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:13:09 2018 No.4944307 Are there no socketed armor, helmets, and axes on sale in hell?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:18:21 2018 No.4944312

>>4944307
nah, i'm fairly positive at a certain point you'll only see magical quality items at vendors (and i think it's actually earlier than hell). if you're in hell and looking for things to socket you should be running areas like the mausoleum or the pit with no MF and socket that stuff via the cube (or larzuk if you're desperate).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:37:19 2018 No.4944332 >>4944271 cry more faggot, i already told you what to do

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:48:30 2018 No.4944343 >>4944332 3 posters in this thread also told you what to do you will make a bullshit reason to refute anything anyway, there is no point stop posting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 07:56:36 2018 No.4944358 File: 581 KB, 800x600, Screenshot087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4942826 Zephyrus. The drop rates are insane, but the content is quite a bit stronger.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:21:15 2018 No.4944386

>>4944343
can you get off my dick you faggot? i said my opinion about summoner, made a quick video and this is it. You got fucking butthurt for whatever reason, you're telling me im doing everything wrong and want me to redo the video like im fucking trying to sell you something. Get off the internet you sensitive bitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:26:26 2018 No.4944395 does these drop normal(white) in hell? crown anceint armor full plate gothic plate plate mail field plate light plate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:30:13 2018 No.4944402 >>4944395 how hard it is to use google?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:30:34 2018 No.4944404 >>4944395 also avenger guard (barbarian helm), does these drop in hell (act IV)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:30:40 2018 No.4944405 >>4944386 stop posting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:31:42 2018 No.4944406 >>4944402 the three wiki's don't say anything about that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:33:32 2018 No.4944413 >>4944406 Just use the drop calculator.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:35:30 2018 No.4944415 File: 77 KB, 600x600, 1482443083662.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4944395 https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Area_Level

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:42:29 2018 No.4944430 >>4944405 post some more to show me that you're not butthurt at all and how much you don't care

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:43:21 2018 No.4944432 >>4944395 you'd have way better luck in normal, no idea why you'd go to hell for this stuff. zero MF normal, go to bonus areas and clear quickly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:45:42 2018 No.4944438 >>4944432 i actually think ancient armor is the except, which you'd be best off finding running like NM cows or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:49:37 2018 No.4944454 >>4944395 When I say Hell, I meant act IV not difficulty. Sorry, I'm not used to the diablo lingo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:54:59 2018 No.4944469 >>4944454 Doesn't take much knowledge to figure out that you don't name an act after a difficulty level.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:59:47 2018 No.4944479

>>4944395
>>4944454
Let me rephrase. I'm playing as Barbarian in single player normal with a rogue merc.

I would like to have avenger guard helm, ancient armor, and two war axes. And I'd like them to be socketed.

If it's impossible, what's the next best thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:01:44 2018 No.4944484 >>4944454 Well, act IV is in hell. Like I said, I'm not used to this.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:17:22 2018 No.4944507

>>4944395
use the tools linked in the fucking op

Monstertype: normal Monster
Difficulty: Hell
Magic Find: 0%
Player Bonus: 4
Item: base Ancient Armor (qlvl 40)

Council Member (act3) 1:586
Brute 1:2851
Carver 1:2851
Dark Hunter 1:2851
Fallen 1:2851
Gargantuan Beast 1:2851
Hungry Dead 1:2851
Skeleton 1:2851
Vile Hunter 1:2851
Zombie 1:2851
Hell Bovine 1:2891

et al.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:22:37 2018 No.4944516 >>4944507 >1:586 Does this mean, 'one in every 586'? I guess, I'll go look for something more realistic.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:22:37 2018 No.4944517

>>4944479
ah, barb guy. how did act III go? Basically, at your stage (low clear speed, early game) I wouldn't really recommend farming for "ideal" gear - in this case, specific equipment with a specific number of sockets. You're probably better off killing bosses a couple of times (if you didn't have too much trouble with mephisto, he might be able to drop some decent stuff for you) for some nice rares/uniques. If you're dead set on that equipment, just know it will take a while for you to find it with the appropriate sockets.

War axe: best bet is the bloody foothills or the river of flame.
Avenger Guard: Odds on this one are a little more rough, but I'd go with the river of flame just so you can also find war axes while you're there.
You won't find ancient armor or full plate mail where you are, but the river of flame will also be a decent shot at a gothic plate.

Again, this isn't really the way I'd go about it, but it's all up to you. I used this, for the record. http://dropcalc.silospen.com/item.php

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:29:29 2018 No.4944532 >>4944469 Diablo 1 did it, that's why it's sometimes confusing when people mention that the de facto "final" act of D1 is Hell/Hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:32:06 2018 No.4944539 >>4944517 Act 3 was okay. As someone had predicted, with my level, Act 3 would be easy. Mephisto and his gang had me used most of my health potions, but they didn't give as much punch as Duriel, so I didn't really panicked.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:32:06 2018 No.4944540

>>4944516
I missed your thing about hell being act4 normal. But yes, those are odds. Bear in mind that in d2 you kill tons of normal monsters so that 1:600 are not very long odds. By the time you get to Breastplates (1:150 for many monsters) the floor will just be littered with them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:36:32 2018 No.4944552 >>4944540 1:500 is still realistic? Less than 1 hour, would you say?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:59:48 2018 No.4944604 Do you all play on /players 8 or is there some kind of rule for using the different settings?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:06:22 2018 No.4944629

>>4944552
1:500 would be considered great odds when compared to finding many specific uniques. but also keep in mind those are odds are considered great to people who are farming for gear. they'll typically have a way, way higher kill speed than a character like yours, playing for the first time, alone, in an act roughly corresponding to your character's level.

>>4944604
/players 8 makes the difficulty higher, the drops better, and the experience better. there are a few circumstances in which you don't want to use a higher player count. i think, for example, if you're farming for base items (white/grey), you're better off on players 1 because you don't care about MF. someone please correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not super well versed in d2 mechanics.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:11:29 2018 No.4944642

>>4944629
You want /players 1 setting against Countess because with /p8 Countess has a higher chance for *item* drops which diminishes her unique rune drop
You don't also really need a high player setting when bossrunning, just adjust it so that you retain a healthy balance of drop and killing speed
Also the quality of drops isn't necessarily better per se, it's just that you get more drops, so therefore you have a higher chance of getting something decent

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:46:21 2018 No.4944739
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>>4940195
In recent moons I've become a fan of the spear spam! Such utility!

You also might want to learn how to build and play a summoner properly. It's not hard. They are the reigning champions of Pvm necking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:11:18 2018 No.4944946 File: 63 KB, 500x411, 1423774150972.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw some kid knocks on my door to ask me if I've seen his lost cat around, stuttering and holding his tears

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:39:14 2018 No.4945140 Tfw no one to play diablo co-op with still.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:59:32 2018 No.4945173 >>4945140 >playing Diablo co-op Enjoy only playing warriors unless you want to constantly kill your comrades.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 16:14:06 2018 No.4945482
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>>4945173
Use the Shotgun Formation and just try to have the Rogue work as a flanker, and it's not a problem. I just completed a Warr/Rogue playthrough with a buddy and it worked well. You can also honestly just go dual-ranged comp if you're this worried about accidental PvP because you generally won't be standing in front of one another.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 17:01:20 2018 No.4945596 >>4945173 >>4945482 don't you have to toggle friendly fire

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 19:10:08 2018 No.4945856 >>4945596 yeah but any projectiles that you're on the path of hurt you. toggling friendly fire just makes it so that clicking a player doesn't cause you to attack him. if he is in the middle of an arrow or fireball's path, he's taking it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 22:48:08 2018 No.4946342 Is the PSX port of Diablo worthwhile? I'd imagine it's a bit harder without a mouse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 22:50:33 2018 No.4946349 >>4946342 No game that's made for PC is worthwhile on a console. Unless you absolutely can't play it on a PC.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 23:02:13 2018 No.4946371 So does anyone even still play this game on ladder east/west? I haven't played in close to 5+ years but seeing these threads bring back so many meph runs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 23:05:44 2018 No.4946378 >>4946371 >ladder No, plugy is the way to go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 23:05:52 2018 No.4946380 I played D3 and really enjoyed it. Would I enjoy D2 also?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 23:11:23 2018 No.4946393 >>4946380 No, D3 is trash and not a real Diablo game. Literally nothing in common.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 00:26:39 2018 No.4946472 >>4940005 you are dumb this isn't 2000 where you summon 20 glass skeletons now you have 8+ skeletons + 1 golem + 1 merc (ideally might) you use amp and CE liberally you beat the game EZ

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 00:47:50 2018 No.4946503 >>4946472 actually wait after reading the other replies to the guy who hates summoners, he's clearly terrible at playing diablo

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 00:53:07 2018 No.4946507 >>4946378 So, battle.net is essentially dead, and everyone plays single player shit now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 03:38:49 2018 No.4946683 >>4928647 what exactly in the op should i install for single player d1 off a fresh disc?

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 07:07:24 2018 No.4946905

>>4946683
in my personal opinion, start with just the base game (with the LoD expansion). play through with a character or two, mess around with skills and see what you like doing, then add in some QoL stuff once you see what you like (this will probably be plugY).

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 07:40:11 2018 No.4946945 >>4946507 It's not necessarily dead, but it's laggy, buggy, filled with bots, ruined economy because of d2jsp, and played out. Plugy is the best and realest nigha way to experience Diablo 2 now.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 08:50:35 2018 No.4947017
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>>4946683
The hellfire expansion was not made by blizzard and is very optional, so I would suggest unmodded for starters

there is a plugin, Torch, available at tristr.am in the OP that enables you to hold down alt to see items like in d2

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 09:00:29 2018 No.4947034 >>4946905 holy shit, i'm retarded, I read d2 not d1, go ahead and ignore this one

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:07:35 2018 No.4947231 >>4946945 I wonder if people still complain about the Ondal staff in runs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:20:40 2018 No.4947242 >>4947231 Was that ever a thing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:26:49 2018 No.4947254 >>4947242 I remember hiding behind one of those pillars in Baals throne room just so nobody could see my Ondal and throw a fit. They'd go as far as not inviting you to the party for the next runs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:27:51 2018 No.4947256 >>4947242 People were retarded and thought +experience gain% leeched experience from other players.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:23:40 2018 No.4947320 >>4947256 I also remember that "stand right there and don't move a muscle" rule from Ubertristram runs. Some barbarian was running and jumping around, everybody was losing their shit over it.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:33:41 2018 No.4947340

>>4947320
that one makes sense though
having minions spawn in the wrong place can be really annoying to deal with and it increases the chance the game will crash (losing probably the last few hours of effort)
all because you have adhd and can't follow instructions and sit in a corner and alt-tab?

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 14:31:44 2018 No.4947524

>>4947340
I always stood still because, like you said, it makes sense. What use is it to run around when all you're supposed to do is gain experience?

>increases the chance the game will crash
That can happen? In all those years I think I never encountered a crash or game breaking bug.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 14:46:58 2018 No.4947537 What do you guys think about Torchlight?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 15:15:41 2018 No.4947571 >>4947537 Garbage and not /vr/.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 15:19:35 2018 No.4947576
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Just started playing the beezlebub mod and im impressed. There are apparently four difficulties, I'm wondering if it's like Diablo 2 where they're unlocked subsequently after each clear -- if anyone knows it would be appreciated, can't find a clear answer on google

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 16:03:03 2018 No.4947653

Goddamn I forgot how fucking annoying the challenges are in Median XL.
>finish off Diablo, head back to Act 2 for the Elemental Prism challenge
>get Prism, go to kill a Priestess for the Sunstone
>kill her, get nailed by some ricochet arrow that does 2000 damage, die instantly
>run back, get Sunstone, attempt to cube
>NOPE, LOL, 30 SECONDS ALREADY PASSED
>game saved right as I died, so the Sunstone was already spawned, can't undo
>now character will be permanently crippled going forward, might as well delete and start over
What even is the point of the time limit besides to fuck you over if you get unlucky? Retarded design. Don't get me started on the absolute bullshit that is the Blacksmith fight in Tristam.
>Hey, you know what players would love?
>What if we made a boss fight where the boss was invincible UNLESS he was standing on a small area that only appears 1/5 times when hitting him and lasts for about 5 seconds?
>Give him regenerating health and it's a deal!
Is there a D2 mod that overhauls classes and skill trees like Median XL but doesn't have the bad design choices of Median XL? I haven't even gotten one character to Hell yet and I'm already sick of dealing with the random bullshit that keeps happening. They also managed to fuck up the colorfix, so while playing after about 30 minutes the game randomly goes rainbow and unplayable. I can play base D2 with the colorfix and never have that issue, how did they fuck up that badly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 16:05:37 2018 No.4947656 >>4947576 sorry i only played tchernobog, but in that they are gated by level

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 16:08:07 2018 No.4947661 >>4947653 I've never heard of that, so what you're saying is basically if you fuck up one time your whole character is fucked and you can't redo it?

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:54:21 2018 No.4947886

>>4947661
MedianXL gets rid of charms, so you can't get any bonuses that aren't part of your gear. Except the Elemental Prism, which grants a small bonus. It grants a larger bonus when cubed with the three Sunstones you get by killing some specific elite monsters in an area off of the Hall of the Dead. Though not something that matters on Normal, you'll be needing that bonus in NM and Hell. But when the Sunstones drop, you get 30 seconds to cube them with the Prism or you can't cube it period. So if you die as it drops or just fail to notice it dropping, you've basically crippled your character. There is no way to re-do, so you are fucked for NM and Hell.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:54:53 2018 No.4947889

How do you get this fucking game to work, I got the newest patch, the glide wrapper, the -3dfx at the end of the shortcut and I still get access violation when I start the game and when I run it with "-w" only then does it work but no sound is produced and the sound options are greyed out. I don't get this shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:55:48 2018 No.4947891 >>4947886 What a garbage feature.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 18:00:08 2018 No.4947901

>>4947891
Median XL does do some things that are neat. Larger stash, larger cube, those things you can cube with your gear to add bonuses directly, and the overhauls of the skill trees to be entirely new is pretty cool. But the bullshit like the Prism just make it more annoying than worthwhile. I really don't wanna play vanilla D2 AGAIN, but I dunno if any of the D2 mods are even worth touching at this point. If Median XL is the most popular and it's this bad, it doesn't look good for the others.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 18:02:53 2018 No.4947910

>>4947886
You have no idea what you are talking about. It is called the LEVEL challenge because you are limited by your LEVEL. The number of attempts or failed attempts has nothing to do with it. If you can't do it after you've already failed, then that just means you were never within the level limit in the first place.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 18:39:33 2018 No.4947993

>>4947910
You have until you are level 50 to pull it off. I'm level 45. But now the stone has dropped, I CAN'T CUBE IT, because the 30 second window passed. I attempted to exit and come back in to re-do, but it won't allow it, since the stone already spawned and the 30 second window is up.
>You have no idea what you are talking about
Look in a mirror first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 21:53:50 2018 No.4948429 Anyone actually purchase diablo 2 via bnet? Does it work without much hiccups and problems? I have such little faith in Blizzard that the game they sell on their own platform will actually function correctly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 21:55:57 2018 No.4948436 >>4948429 >Anyone actually purchase diablo 2 via bnet? Yes. >Does it work without much hiccups and problems? Not since the last ladder. They fucked it up. But you should be playing SP plugy anyways.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:00:28 2018 No.4948449 >>4948436 So do you mean that I can run into the same problems of diablo 2 not working from the discs on the bnet launcher? I am wholly unfamiliar with blizzard games and I just want to try diablo 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:03:04 2018 No.4948456 >>4948449 >diablo 2 not working from the discs It works fine, you're just installing it wrong or too lazy to google for solutions. You don't have to buy the game twice.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:14:43 2018 No.4948485

Yes my major problem is that I don't get sound from the disc version, I've downloaded all the fucking patches and whatnot from the OP and it plays but no sound and it's greyed out when I go to options. I've googled for solutions to this 18 year old game but I'm at a loss because I am unfamiliar with this era of pc gaming and the problem solving that comes with it. So I just fucking wanted to know if the bnet version just works, or if you know a solution to the sound issue that would be great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:17:26 2018 No.4948489 >>4948485 It's the same thing, idiot. Just the patch is different. You can try and get the installer from somewhere else, and use your keys on that, instead of installing from the disc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:19:24 2018 No.4948490 >>4948489 Okay, thanks for nothing you boomer faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:20:27 2018 No.4948491 >>4948490 >too stupid to even apply the free advice he got to fix his issue Who am I kidding, you can't even click "next" a few times on an installer to play a game. Fucking pathetic.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:22:13 2018 No.4948494
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>>4947256
>People were retarded and thought +experience gain% leeched experience from other players.

Not even. People seeing it just get overcome with jealousy knowing the other guy is getting 5% more experience for the run than they are.

"Ondal's Wisdom" is nothing more or less than reconciling yourself to the fact that you are an animal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:25:24 2018 No.4948497 >>4948494 Anon you can't post tits on a blue board.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 23:19:45 2018 No.4948591

I noticed that hell speedruns takes more than six hours. I didn't watch one, but I'm expecting that in that difficulty, using town portal during boss fights are required.
Is this true, or you can beat Baal in Nightmare and Hell difficulty without using town portals?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 23:26:23 2018 No.4948605 >>4948591 you can absolutely beat any boss in d2 without using town portals, with any class. the hell speedrun times you're seeing are for all three difficulties, not just hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 01:33:41 2018 No.4948776 >>4948591 i can imagine trying to do bosses in hell on a barbarian speedrun would be pretty gruesome, you might have to return to town just to refill another 50 potions

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 04:18:18 2018 No.4948943

>>4938178
It is possible to single clear the game, actually, if you play as a Hammerdin, even on "/players 8". Expect to get stuck for a while at some points, however, because chances are you won't get all of the best equipment and will have to improvise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 05:00:22 2018 No.4948987 >>4948776 How about in Nightmare, does the barbarian still need town portals when fighting Baal?

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 05:08:04 2018 No.4949000

>playing Eastern Sun
>disable shared stash
>roll a melee Barb
>takes forever to get off the ground even with an extra 10000 gold to start with thanks to lucky coupon drops
>blood raven's area took like 15 minutes to clear out
>have to bust my ass with crafting and spend a ton of resources just getting to the point where I can deal with enemies at all and it's still slow as shit
>roll summoner Druid after getting to Nightmare and getting tired of the tedium
>after getting that first level it's completely effortless except for when the AI shits itself
Why?

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 05:36:37 2018 No.4949031

>>4947993
Listen kiddo, I've been playing Diablo 2 mods since 2002 and modding since 2003. The first Median I played was in 2005 called Median 2. Never in the entire history of Median has the level challenge EVER BEEN ATTEMPT LIMITED, even back when it wasn't the Tran Athulua challenge and was somewhere else entirely. Even the official website itself disagrees with you, literally saying "Keep trying until you succeed!" and "You now have 30 seconds to perform the cube recipe. If you are too slow and the red overlay vanishes, you have to do it again!". You are using the wrong sunstone with the wrong lady or doing something else that is equally dumb. I've personally died numerous times in my attempts and never have I permanently lost my chance to cube it. Not only are you wrong, but it would be incredibly difficult to implement an attempt-limited system in Diablo 2, you'd have to hardcode in a bunch of shit because there are no inherent functions in Diablo 2 cubemain.txt that support it. Cubemain.txt can only be limited by:

>stats
>states
>player level
>item level
>difficulty
>ingredients
>number of ingredients
>character
>your system time

None of these would allow you to make an attempt limited system. You might want to say that stats could do that, by giving the player a stat when he kills the boss, but then you wouldn't ever be able to cube the stone and crystal together in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 09:56:26 2018 No.4949339 >>4949000 I've seen this exact same post before. What are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:03:32 2018 No.4949348 >>4948605 >you can absolutely beat any boss in d2 without using town portals Sure, just throw enough potions on the ground in preparation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:25:39 2018 No.4949391 Sup boiz just started a game of d2, a couple hours ago with a hc skelemancer, already got to the inner cloister. Haven't played this in a while. Does anyone know of a mulling program that's not plugy? I'm on 1.14 so that doesn't work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:28:37 2018 No.4949401 >>4949391 Just get plugy and start over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:31:14 2018 No.4949409 >>4949391 >skelemancer That build literally doesn't work. I proved it. Delete the character, get plugy and read up in the thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:34:17 2018 No.4949420 >>4949391 >Does anyone know of a mulling program that's not plugy? Get ATMA, it's lightweight and, if you really care, it's not nearly as autistically contested (in terms of being a "cheat") as PlugY is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:36:27 2018 No.4949428 >>4949420 What do you mean contested?

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:39:17 2018 No.4949434

>>4949428
This general had a few discussions on whether PlugY is cheating or not, but it's mostly irrelevant as it's mostly just preference vs preference, though some people actually go as far as to consider it a cheat. Diabloii.net has some friendly contests from time to time that often apply some restrictions, but they don't allow you to use PlugY. Overall, it's nothing to worry about, it's just the kinda thing that for some reason causes people to form camps for no reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:48:18 2018 No.4949452 >>4949434 It's just single player though, who cares?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:51:09 2018 No.4949454 >>4949452 Some people come from heavily purist backgrounds It's okay, people argue a lot because they just love the game.

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:52:30 2018 No.4949458

>>4949401
>>4949420
>>4949434
I'd use plugy but

1) it doesn't work with 1.14
2) I downloaded Diablo off bnet and it won't let me downgrade

I'm playing on Linux so I had enough issue troubleshooting

>>4949409
Oh fuck you're that autist who made the retarded skelemancer video and spewed shitty talking points?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:54:21 2018 No.4949464 >>4949458 >Oh fuck you're that autist who made the retarded skelemancer video I proved everyone in this thread wrong faggot. Where is your naked necro video?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:57:53 2018 No.4949471 >>4949458 You don't need to use 1.14. Just reinstall the game again with 1.13.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:12:57 2018 No.4949498 >>4949464 >>4949401 >>4949409 so the plugy shilling mega-autist who shits over the way other people play any class and jerks off sorcs is actually just not good enough to play other builds like a skelemancer? interesting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:14:41 2018 No.4949506 >>4949498 More like I don't enjoy spending 6 hours in Normal on a game that you can beat the entirety of in 6 hours. Skelemancer doesn't do dick without highly specialized gear unless you're that jobless autist with a shitty diablo blog, end of topic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:15:45 2018 No.4949507 File: 7 KB, 1177x139, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4949498 You are literally both autistic and a schizo. As expected from a NM LK runner that grinds to 75 to kill hell Mephisto, and gets to 99 before killing the ancients.

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:19:36 2018 No.4949512

>>4949464
Fuck off plenty of people have already told you that your skills were fucked up and you weren't even playing well. >>4949471
I'm installing directly from bnet, it automatically gives me 1.14
>>4949498
Wew it's the same guy?
>>4949506
You're a fucking moron

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:20:36 2018 No.4949515 >>4949512 Don't install from bnet then, braindead retard. Is this your first time touching a computer? Holy shit you are so stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:21:48 2018 No.4949517 >>4949507 you out yourself every time you make a post like this mate

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:21:54 2018 No.4949518 >>4949515 I don't have the fucking cds anymore faggot. Why wouldnt I install from those if I had them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:23:16 2018 No.4949519 >>4949517 No, that's just you being a literal schizo, thinking everyone who doesn't agree with your autism is one single person trying to get you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:24:18 2018 No.4949523 >>4949518 I never said to install from cds you illiterate mongoloid. How are you even able to breathe, you are so stupid. You better be joking with this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:25:30 2018 No.4949527 >>4949519 Skelemancers are a good build. Why do you have such a fucking hard on for bonemancers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:26:34 2018 No.4949528 >>4949523 Fuck off kike I'm not torrenting on this shitty internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:27:37 2018 No.4949531 >>4949527 I have literally never ever mentioned or talked about or referenced or said anything at all about skelemancers. What's wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:28:12 2018 No.4949534 >>4949531 you don't have to lie lad

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:28:42 2018 No.4949537 >>4949528 You don't need to torrent anything you literal single digit IQ subhuman. Go search up a guide holy fucking shit how are you this dumb? I don't get it, you better be baiting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:29:43 2018 No.4949540 >>4949534 Please take your medicine. I've also never played a bonemancer in my entire life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 11:57:51 2018 No.4949583 >>4949537 >>4949540 All you guys are proving is that there are multiple autists in this general.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 12:07:39 2018 No.4949603 >>4949583 Leave if you don't like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 03:11:06 2018 No.4951042 Does anyone here play with one of those drop mods?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 05:55:34 2018 No.4951195 >>4949339 I find that pretty unlikely because I just rolled that Barbarian like 4 days ago.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 08:14:00 2018 No.4951317

>>4951042
I've played with some drop mods before. A lot of them are shitty and are way, way too generous with uniques and sets. The happiest one I found was Sebish's drop mod - IIRC the main problem with that was that it made all runes buyable. But if you just make it a rule to not buy runes, then it was the best one I've found. you could also try enjoy-SP, which I haven't tried out and people seem to like, and might be better than the one i mentioned. don't do the perfect drop mod. it's fucking garbage and really removes any reward from finding good items, plus the guy makes a ton of quality of life changes that trivialize the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:05:48 2018 No.4951367 >>4951195 Stop trolling bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:23:29 2018 No.4951387 >>4947653 holy fuck get good you filthy pleb the sunstone challenge is easy as fuck I bet you're such a retard that you're always running there is no way in hell you can get oneshot'd at that high of a lv most people clear that shit by lv 35

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 10:31:20 2018 No.4951469 >>4951387 you are really adamant about defending this median XL mod, did you make it or something? it seemed really unbalanced and didn't have a d2 feel when i played it

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 10:59:35 2018 No.4951524 >>4951469 t. paranoia anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:13:16 2018 No.4951562 >>4951524 I'm paranoid because I don't like Median XL?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:40:23 2018 No.4951623 >>4951562 You're paranoid because you keep implying random things to random people for no reason.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:43:41 2018 No.4951630 >>4951623 I think your autism might be making it difficult to comprehend this one, but there was nothing random about what was just posted

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:45:38 2018 No.4951632 >>4951630 You're sadly also autistic, on top of being a paranoid schizo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:48:21 2018 No.4951638 >>4951630 protip anon its more than one person you have been replying to its at least 3

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:51:01 2018 No.4951643 >>4951638 >at least 3 Try at least 50.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:52:42 2018 No.4951650 >>4951632 >>4951638 i've literally posted in this thread in responses to you guys and to some guy about item levels. i have no idea what you guys are talking about. is this general always this autistic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 11:54:59 2018 No.4951657 >>4951650 >damage control

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 15:25:10 2018 No.4952121 >>4951317 Thanks mate, I'll try that Enjoy-SP mod and see what it's like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 16:25:12 2018 No.4952234 >>4952121 let us know what your experience is man, i'm curious myself

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:04:21 2018 No.4952338 >>4952234 No problem, I'll start tomorrow I think, still don't know what character to take.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:15:20 2018 No.4952370 >>4952338 Sorc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:44:02 2018 No.4952421 File: 112 KB, 782x1022, 198745346354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4952370 I was kinda set on a WW leechbarb, but the sorc has that sweet teleport and I never really played one. So why not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:57:50 2018 No.4952440 >>4952421 WW barb as a first character is usually a terrible idea, unless you absolutely want one. It's very gear dependent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 18:16:44 2018 No.4952469 >>4952440 I guess I'll see how far I get with the barb, maybe the loot is good enough to keep him going.

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 04:12:32 2018 No.4953278

I just started playing again recently with a lightning Javazon and now I literally can't kill anything in A1 Hell. I've only ever really played a Sorc in the past and have been blitzing through the entire game with the Java only to be completely cockblocked. I found a Magewrath to use as a secondary for lightning immunes but even that does fuck all damage.. Do I have to respec into bows completely?

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 06:30:29 2018 No.4953387

>>4953278
No. Respec into a Fishyzon. This is a Lightning Fury Javazon with Frozen Arrow or Strafe support, depending on what bow you find (+skills [Melody, for instance] = FA, high phys damage [elite bow Harmony, WWS] = Strafe) as a backup attack. Frozen Arrow gives you a nice bunch of crowd control, too.
Also I'm currently running a Javazon with a friend and we compensate one another well, and my Java generally wipes the floor with non-LIs while he erases the LI immunes, so we actually went to Hell at a pretty low level (around 53). What you can do is:
>stay in Nightmare Baalruns a little longer
more levels absolutely can't hurt anyone, and route to NM Baal can drop something nice ((I once found a Mal during a baalrun)
>get something for your merc
With some patience you can make them an Obedience polearm and a Smoke armor, which should boost their survivability
>get some points in Valk
Valk is a good tank with a couple points in.
>get a wand with Lower Resist charges
It won't break all immunes and you will still have to deal with a hefty resistance to LI, but it's a method.
>simply skip the LI packs
this is also often done. Put a Decoy on the other side of the LIs and run the other way. You can compensate for the lost XP and items by running around areas with few LIs. Might be tricky in Maggot Lair though.
This one chick did a casual Javazon Hardcore walkthrough and here's the moment when she hit Hell difficulty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKxPTf7Uhds
You can maybe compare stats, skills and see what you have going differently, since she seems to have gone through Hell fairly swimmingly.

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 08:19:40 2018 No.4953495
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>>4952234
Got the Bloody Moor and the Den cleared, pic related is the stuff I found on /p3.
>293% ED (47 def) Arctic Furs
>rare amulet (+14 AR, +1 DEX, +2 ENE, +6 MAX STAM, +31% Gold)
>jewel (+6% EDmg, +15% REQ)
>ring (+1 MAX DMG, +5% cold resist)
>magic belt (+5% cold resist, +1 DURA/33s)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 08:27:00 2018 No.4953503 File: 63 KB, 267x360, 64354354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4953495 Had just enough money to gamble two clubs, not too shabby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 08:47:14 2018 No.4953512 >>4953503 To be honest anon I hardly see how these are superior to a pair of Scimitars with chipped gems in them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 13:04:07 2018 No.4953881 >>4953512 well he'll have to repair them less, scimitars break every minute

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 14:26:09 2018 No.4954002 >>4953495 >293% ED upp that shit twice into dusk shroud boi

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 14:52:05 2018 No.4954054
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>>4953512
Scimitars are gay as fuck. And I seem to keep going up the /p count, so high durability weapons are pretty cool to have.

>>4954002
Until I get the stuff to upgrade I'l probably find something better.

Anyway. First unique dropped from Blood Raven, ethereal Greyform, gave it to my rogue.
Just got out of Tristram, Griswold gave me a Stoutnail. Overall I can say there certainly are a shitload of gems dropping.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 15:35:02 2018 No.4954136 File: 276 KB, 800x600, Screenshot004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Countess drop...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 15:46:43 2018 No.4954175 File: 579 KB, 800x600, Screenshot005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And lots of gems since I stopped selling them. I also just misclicked and set this image as my desktop background

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 16:06:03 2018 No.4954220 >>4954002 you can't upgrade set items moron

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 19:50:57 2018 No.4954613 poison, frozen nova, open wounds. What's the correct term for these effects? Where is the prioritization list?

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 19:52:54 2018 No.4954617

i tried playing d1 after d2 and 3. running back to town every time i ran out of mana got old really quick. the lack of waypoints is also a huge fun killer. never got to learn the town portal spell but i feel like that should be the very first thing you're given. but old games i guess.

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 20:11:26 2018 No.4954657

>>4954617
Just get town portal scrolls. It isn't like you have to constantly reroll the witch to just get the spell book since the scrolls are still good. Diablo 1 has its differences from its sequels. It is much more of a dungeon crawler than D2. Not only that but you just can't spam your spells without reason since mana potions don't drop with the frequency in Diablo 2 and that you only regain mana naturally through level ups or potions since there is no regeneration.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 20:16:56 2018 No.4954665 It seems that Normal is designed for level 33 and below characters. At level 34 exceptional gears starts to drop, which feels weird. So, whats the best build for a level 33 barb?

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 21:58:13 2018 No.4954821

>>4954665
Frenzy. Concentrate is too slow unless you really, really insist on the safety, Berserk is good and my personal favourite but still single target, Whirlwind still does negative damage at that point, Singer doesn't do a lot of damage and runs out of mana quickly. With Frenzy you can Double Swing for free, run really fast, and probably still kill everything with just a pair of Steels, Strengths or Gemmed Very Fast weapons.

Also, exceptional/elite gear isn't really confined to difficulty level, so I wouldn't fret over it. It's a good thing, really.

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 22:58:50 2018 No.4954890
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>>4942179
>UPDATE
Malah:"You knew it would eventually come down to this. Kill Baal! Finish the game!"

Why would you say that?

Current armor can freeze enemies when I hit them, plus I'm using poison damage charms, so every time I hit an enemy it freezes and poisoned at the same time, "omae wa shindeiru", which means I only need to hit an enemy once.

Is there a more efficient way of dealing with hordes of enemies using a barbarian?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 23:34:20 2018 No.4954934 File: 42 KB, 976x603, sasasssss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this correct? I've already beaten Mephisto once.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 00:17:48 2018 No.4955014 >>4954934 if you've already killed meph (and completed his quest) you don't get his quest drops (Q)

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 00:25:25 2018 No.4955026 Who does these characters remind you of?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 00:27:28 2018 No.4955031 File: 100 KB, 920x370, Da8BYja.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who does these characters remind you of?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 00:30:08 2018 No.4955036 >>4954934 So, I get the third row, which is still good. Thanks for the info.

Anonymous Sun Aug 5 04:37:05 2018 No.4955228
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I'm starting to think Mephisto doesn't drop normal items. I've changed the players to eight, and all I'm still getting are rare and magic items.

I don't mind if it's a cracked/low quality Avenger Guard. I need to have have it to get my sense of completion before fighting Baal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 05:55:53 2018 No.4955285 File: 261 KB, 800x600, its in a chest.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4955228 Found my Avenger Guard in a random chest in Mephesto's level. A random chest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 06:18:58 2018 No.4955302 >>4955285 And it gave me just one socket. So, I guess I'll go look for one again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 06:21:49 2018 No.4955305 >>4955285 >rogue merc beyond A1 For what purpose?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 06:24:03 2018 No.4955307 >>4955305 It just werks

Anonymous Sun Aug 5 07:30:44 2018 No.4955360

>>4928647
I remember playing Diablo as a wee lad. I got up to the part where you had to fight the Butcher. I got too scared when I saw him because he'd run after you saying ''ahhh fresh meat''. I stopped playing and couldnt sleep well for a week, fucked me up real good lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 09:07:06 2018 No.4955480 >>4955305 If you don't feel like outfitting A2 merc and don't need the Normal aura then A1 merc generally stays out of trouble and provides some token pew-pew without getting stuck. It really doesn't matter that much anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 16:01:39 2018 No.4956168 Does someone know how this "X skill points on level up" feature from PlugY works? I wanted to try that and did everything I'm supposed to do but it doesn't seem to do anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 16:32:08 2018 No.4956227 >>4956168 I don't understand what you're asking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 17:39:05 2018 No.4956328 >>4955480 getting edge on an A1 merc for a skelemancer is pretty dank as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 04:24:06 2018 No.4957294 >>4956227 PlugY offers a feature where you can change the number of skill or attribute points gained on level up. I acivated everything like it said in the readme but there are no changes ingame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 06:28:10 2018 No.4957362 File: 319 KB, 800x600, ory77ou5k6ta.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4957294

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 09:39:36 2018 No.4957526 >>4957362 That's for a skill respec, I mean altering the amount of skill points you get when leveling up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 10:59:06 2018 No.4957691 Just installed Path of Diablo, what should i expect?

Anonymous Mon Aug 6 11:28:13 2018 No.4957756

>>4957691
Always online, some quality of life updates (bigger stash, easier stash sorting), class/item rebalance that has its ups and downs, permanent /players 8 for easier drops, slightly expanded end-game.

Overall it's one guy's vision of what a more polished Diablo 2 would look like and he's doing his best, I guess. Feel free to try it out for a brief spin and see if you like it, it's not too offensively bad, aside from that time where he stripped down the entire Martial Arts tree (half the skills were missing) because he deemed the MA Sin to be unplayable and it took him a ladder season to bring her a new skillset.

Also levelling is a breeze with any class because they all got bonus mobility and AoE available early.

Anonymous Mon Aug 6 11:33:02 2018 No.4957765

>>4957691
>>4957756

This was my experience as well. Generally speaking, though, you can achieve similar QoL upgrades with plugY and many other mods. I personally didn't care much for the class changes he made, and the introduced crafting system is a little lame. I'd say there are probably better "slight change" mods out there, but I haven't ventured into enough to give a better recommendation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 12:58:28 2018 No.4957905 >>4957756 >>4957765 Thanks lads, finished act 2 and it seems fine so far, better than resurgence at least

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 15:41:45 2018 No.4958187 >>4957691 A garbage reddit experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 20:50:00 2018 No.4958812 I want to get into d2 again, and probably play singleplayer, but I realize now I never really played d2 classic back in the days. Is it worth playing? Is the game a bit different?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 21:36:18 2018 No.4958907 >>4958812 It's different but not worth playing. LoD made the game better in every single aspect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 21:41:14 2018 No.4958917 >>4958907 "improvements" like: lets increase the resistance penalties, but then give a quest + charms that offset it, but it means you have a bunch of shit in your inventory oh and the quest bonus stops working if you die so much better

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 21:42:01 2018 No.4958920 >>4958917 >the quest bonus stops working if you die ?

Anonymous Mon Aug 6 22:06:42 2018 No.4958965

Started my single pass full clear druid tonight. Going with fire druid for normal .might respec in each difficulty, but will probably depend on what I manage to find. I'm at level 15 at the black marsh, still have to run through the hole and the tower. so far i've managed to get 52% mf in my gear so far between chipped topaz and finding some on a ring and an amulet. rares are dropping pretty frequently, but the only thing beyond i've found so far is hsarus' iron fist (shit). no difficulties yet, obviously, except for the frustrating lack of mana, especially since my free slots are dedicated to mf, meaning no sapphires to get me by in the meantime. hopefully kill speed starts to increase as i level up and my mana pool increases.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 06:56:33 2018 No.4959705 File: 364 KB, 800x600, finally.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4955285 Again, it's in a chest. How come nobody is saying that chests are a good place to find stuff too.

Anonymous Tue Aug 7 07:11:44 2018 No.4959712

I've played the game for fucking years way back in high school and after. Pirated copy of course, on a private server - it was a big server though.

I bought the game yesterday, started playing on battle.net for the first time. Feels so legit this time around.
Slowly leveling up a Ice bowazon. I really wanna play through the game relaxing, rather stressing for runs and leveling (for now).

I won't start with a sorc or pally lol, i feel i wanna be challenged a bit.

Will post screencaps later today.

How many people are currently actively playing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 07:29:42 2018 No.4959725 >>4959705 Chests have always been a good source of quality items.

Anonymous Tue Aug 7 07:59:43 2018 No.4959759

>>4959705
hey man, not sure if you've realized this at this point in your run but it really isn't worth spending ages trying to get an avenger guard over another barb helm, i very seriously doubt you'll notice much of a difference (unless you're putting a runeword or something in it that wasn't in your previous helm).

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 09:50:17 2018 No.4959878 >>4959712 not your blog

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 10:11:46 2018 No.4959906 >>4959759 It's just a game I'm doing. I know I can beat the game with what I got. I just feel like, if I'm going to beat the game, I might as well have get the best barb-helm for my barb. Yes. I'm going to put a runeword on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 13:45:58 2018 No.4960205 >>4959906 so you're planning on stopping with that character after normal or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 15:20:21 2018 No.4960338 >>4954136 ...and? A perfectly ordinary normal difficulty drop.

Anonymous Tue Aug 7 19:32:54 2018 No.4960834

>>4960205
>stopping with that character after normal
Yeah. Nightmare and Hell is just normal but double or triple the bothersomeness.

I'll probably visit the cow level. I'll probably try the paladin in normal. I'll probably try a normal speedrun of barb and paladin using the stuff that I've collected using plugy, but that's it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 19:42:55 2018 No.4960845 >>4960834 I just realized that I can't put sockets on a superior item using the cube. I guess, I'll go play a paladin now, and go do that "Siege On Harrogath" quest.

Anonymous Tue Aug 7 20:15:53 2018 No.4960920

>>4960834
>Nightmare and Hell is just normal but double or triple the bothersomeness.
Most of my characters enjoy Nightmare way more than Normal because by Nightmare you tend to already have a couple of points into massive AoE skills.
Like, Barbarian in particular can be arduous until you get a couple of hard points into Double Swing and a few weapons, and A5 Normal can get awful because monsters (particularly Baal himself) have higher lvl than you and thus make your chance to hit them shit. But then in Nightmare you're already a dude that's high on Frenzy/Berserk/Conc and you've probably been swimming in Exceptional beatsticks (and there's that very rare possibility of getting an Elite drop in A1 NM we found out last thread) and you get a Might merc in A2, so everything just goes swimmingly.

Personally though I just speedrun through Norm and NM because I consider Hell to be the real game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 20:59:05 2018 No.4961041 Why are idiots pretending summoners suck? It's literally 30 seconds at the river of flame wp to make an army of crushing blow urdar and you can pound whatever ass you want. If you tele you can do a full MF clear before they even expire.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 21:03:15 2018 No.4961051 >>4961041 30 seconds is more than a LK run.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 21:14:44 2018 No.4961070 >>4961041 Look up the videos I made >>4940195 >0 they literally can't work without good gear, zero killing speed

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 21:33:42 2018 No.4961116 >>4961070 see >>4940210

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 03:11:47 2018 No.4961901 File: 379 KB, 800x600, 20180808070906966.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 06:39:56 2018 No.4962210 >>4961901 that seems like an awful lot of strength for level 21 >>4961070 this is my first time watching but in everyone else's defense it does literally look like you die on purpose and i have no idea what you were doing with your skill points there

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 07:11:36 2018 No.4962242 >>4962210 make your own video then so far no one has made better proof because nobody actually plays this shitty class youre just parroting what someone else said as i said it before, if you level to 75 before going to Hell you can fuck off

Anonymous Wed Aug 8 07:46:45 2018 No.4962305
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>>4962210
yeah, i've never really played amazons too much. kinda overshot it, but i have +10 total from items so its 80 str

I also made an Edge on a shitty bow so i can try Duriel again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 09:58:30 2018 No.4962558 >>4962242 >no one has made better proof because nobody actually plays this shitty class This is true, but you dying on purpose to show how shitty is is also true.

Anonymous Wed Aug 8 10:32:45 2018 No.4962610

Game to game everything I love is nerfed. The amount of skeletons one could summon in D2 was the first thing that was taken from me. I really loved lagging people with my 89 skeletons on my superior pentium 4.

fuck nerfs.
fuck "ballance"

dont mind my rant.. just passing through

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 17:20:41 2018 No.4963396 >>4962610 skele-based builds are much stronger in the newest patches though fewer, but stronger minions allows for much less clutter in pathways and more of them can attack a boss at once plus it takes less time to farm them up

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 22:24:47 2018 No.4964216 >>4938036 Use cheat engine to increase game speed by 1.25x or so

Anonymous Wed Aug 8 22:51:50 2018 No.4964294

>tfw forgot to turn players8 off on my countess run for single pass
at least it was only normal. she dropped a lone tir so no good runes for a while. so far with my measly 52% mf I've found 2 sets (infernal helm + hsarus shield) and 1 unique (unique scimitar, would be pretty neat if i was using a shapeshifter instead of a fire druid).

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 23:52:24 2018 No.4966956 File: 114 KB, 600x374, 600px-Barb_Skills.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does Frenzy works? Do I activate Frenzy then use Double Swing, or do I just keep using Frenzy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 00:19:10 2018 No.4966991 >>4932567 ls It?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 07:35:00 2018 No.4967504 >>4966991 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 10:16:01 2018 No.4967746 >>4966956 http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/barbarian-combatskills.shtml Berserk is a good swap, but use Frenzy 90 percent of the time, because it's a charge up with short duration. Double swing is a strictly inferior attack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 19:12:35 2018 No.4969071 File: 597 KB, 800x600, 047325460825.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doing pretty good so far, how about you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 20:01:49 2018 No.4969182 >>4969071 I think it's better to post progress images with at least more than 20 minutes of game time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 20:50:15 2018 No.4969282 >>4969071 whats the stats on that leaf staff IT IS at least +2 to three skills right anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 20:51:49 2018 No.4969286 >>4969182 How do you hit level 21 in 20 minutes? Even with /players 8 full Tristruns and Tombruns you'd still need to get rushed somewhat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 20:59:31 2018 No.4969301 >>4969182 Be glad there is a post at all. >>4969282 +1-3 to 3 random skills, IIRC. The stats are +3 fire bolt, +2 warmth, +1 shiver armor. The best result after god knows how many trader runs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 22:05:33 2018 No.4969449 >>4969286 yikes

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 22:11:00 2018 No.4969468 >>4967504 l don't thlnk you saw what he dld there.

Anonymous Fri Aug 10 23:31:13 2018 No.4969672

>>4969286
you're probably talking to a literal autist who cannot fathom not playing the game what he feels its 'efficiently.' you may only play with a sorc, immediately get rushed and powerlevel, then you may farm with your sorc. any way you play the game to enjoy it differently is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 11:26:32 2018 No.4970691 >>4969071 is that lenymo

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 13:02:25 2018 No.4970845 >>4970691 Hell yeah. I think I'm going to upgrade it to exceptional.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 15:17:47 2018 No.4971141 I built a retro pc, where can I find the original isos?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 15:18:49 2018 No.4971146 >>4971141 for diablo 2+exp I mean

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 15:19:41 2018 No.4971149 >>4971141 >>4971146 If you have the keys just go to battle.net.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 15:20:19 2018 No.4971151 >>4971149 those will work on windows 98?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 17:15:19 2018 No.4971413 >>4971151 No idea but I don't see why not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 22:30:53 2018 No.4972213 Is this the correct priority in D2? Act 1 - poison damage - magic resistance Act 2 - ice damage - lighting resistance Act 3 - lightning damage - poison resistance Act 4 - magic damage - fire resistance Act 5 - fire damage - ice resistance

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 23:22:49 2018 No.4972319 >>4972213 you're overthinking it and no, what the fuck

Anonymous Sat Aug 11 23:27:44 2018 No.4972331

>>4972213
you prioritize lightning (Lightning Enchanted characters are just annoying; anything in general that fires a lot of Charged Bolts; and especially Gloams in A5) and fire resistance, because cold resistance and poison resistance can be, in a pinch, alleviated with Thawing Potions and Antidotes, which, on top of their regular ability, also increase your resistance against cold or poison by 30 and their duration stacks. Aside from that, if you really don't want to die in HC, get used to slamming PDiamonds into your shield or running RalOrtTal or ShaelEth, or a NefLum in chest slot.

theorycrafting on this is kinda pointless

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 23:46:22 2018 No.4972354 how do i active the 3d sound in d2? it is possible?

Anonymous Sun Aug 12 09:21:18 2018 No.4972948
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>>4944036
>>4944153

Ok so here the news : I'm lvl 28 with my amazon, i started as a javazon but couldn't handle it, not fun at all .. so i switched after twenty min to a bowazon. I play most of the time only with /player 8 mode. Did well, did not die to Duriel (had to buy max cold resist potion), but i did die in the arachnid lair, my merc instant die and the spider rushed my face.

Also, i'm collecting the runes and the chipped gems to combine with the horadric cube.

I'm desesperaly looking for an AMN rune to get my runic bow. Dropped 3 uniques (one axe, one sword, and my cap). Dropped two set item (one ring and one shield).

Anonymous Sun Aug 12 13:14:25 2018 No.4973423
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>>4969071

Doing as normal I guess.

Lately in d2classic, I have been collecting and imbuing 1-handers for these zealers and because of the bigger numbers they mainly seem to be battle hammers, the exceptional war hammer. The hammers still all seem like shit. I am unaware of any viable 1 handed uniques in classic (for Phys), or any good weapons in general besides bonesnap, but I am ready to be corrected.

And I can't imagine people playing pvm zealers by hand. They use absolutely 1 skill and 1 aura, there are no tactics needed, whatsoever, and their damage output is quite bad. They just stand in front of a mob and clicky-clicky until the Bonesnap Barb finds time in his busy schedule to WW through it. But to that last point I may be missing something important regarding the weapons.

The uber 1-point smiter build for LoD is technically a zealer, though, and he is a bit more interesting to play than this. There are good 1-handers in LoD, and the auric shields do good smiting damage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 13:32:16 2018 No.4973468 File: 1.43 MB, 500x281, zCT[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone post some box art or old art? I like Blizzards old art before they got Nu-ified

Anonymous Sun Aug 12 13:33:41 2018 No.4973469
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>>4973423
another thing about classic is that the alvls scale more steeply in Hell diff, so that chaos sanctuary is pretty much the only endgame you get.

If you play this on battlenet you can join runs hosted by people who have killed D already, and you can glitch the quest drop. Classic on bnet had a pretty nice atmosphere recently when I did it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 13:39:40 2018 No.4973487 >>4973468 did you exhaust the source in the sticky > Cool D2 promo, concept artworks, monster renderers and more http://www.mobygames.com/game/diablo-ii/promo

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 16:20:29 2018 No.4973873 File: 11 KB, 440x520, we wuz paladins.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] KICK IN THE DOOR, WAVIN' THE 4'4" ALL YOU HEARD WAS "PALA DON'T HIT ME NO MORE"

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 19:27:39 2018 No.4974259 >>4973423 if you want to imbue a weapon it should be a martel the biggest problem is that way you don't get 3x dura from failed unique though

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 02:23:10 2018 No.4975026 >>4972331 Okay. Offense - poison and ice Defense - fire and lightning Magic defense and offense is not really a thing.

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 08:51:42 2018 No.4975494

>>4975026
what do you mean offense: poison and ice? stop trying to focus on specific elements to attack with. where'd you get poison from? it's one of the worst ones offensively and also one that you'll very rarely find yourself able to fit into a build unless you're playing a specific character. cold damage for the sake of slowing down enemies is nice, but the damage is usually the lowest of fire-ice-lightning on average. the type of damage you want is completely build dependent.

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 13:02:01 2018 No.4975843

>>4974259
Well these are for paladins. Are you saying they don't need a shield? I had not really considered that.

I remember cheat-imbuing a bunch of marts a long time ago, and I think I decided that that the chances of getting a rare mart that is better than bonesnap is miniscule.

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 15:43:38 2018 No.4976060

>>4972213
>magic resistance
Completely worthless against every single enemy aside from oblivion knights. Oblivion knights do not do significant magic damage either. Horror archers also deal magic damage, but only a negligible portion.
>cold resistance
Not extremely important except against Normal Duriel. Enemies don't do cold damage too often, and it is only really a threat because cold resistance affects cold duration. There are only a few cold spellcasters in the entire game, and their hits can be easily evaded. If you are good about avoiding cold enchanted explosions, you won't need to prioritize this resistance.
>lightning resistance
Important if you aren't good at controlling your character. Lightning enchanted can't hit you if you position properly and gloam shots can also be dodged. The most important resistance for the average player since getting hit at low resistance usually means a huge percentage of your life evaporating, or outright dying.
>fire resistance
The most common non-physical damage type. By far the most enemies have a bonus chance of dealing this damage type, or even always deal this. Many enemies deal hefty amounts of partial or full fire damage, e.g. corpse spitters, bigheads, balrogs, succubi, burning skeletons, fallen shamans, fetish shamans, Nihlathak, Diablo, fire enchanteds.
>poison resistance
Only time it will matter is against poisonous quill rats in hell difficulty and those aren't that common. Not even necessary against Andariel. The second least important resistance.

tl;dr Fire Resistance >= Lightning Resistance > Cold Resistance >>> Poison Resistance >>> Magic Resistance

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 15:52:25 2018 No.4976076

>>4967746
>Double swing is a strictly inferior attack.
No. Double Swing has a hidden 50% IAS bonus. Double Swing is going to be better than Frenzy for the first few levels at least, and if you are using very slow weapons with few sources of IAS, then you will always be better off using Frenzy + Double Swing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 21:05:54 2018 No.4976581 >>4975494 >where'd you get poison from I'm using melee characters (paladin and barbarian). So, gears and charms that add poison and ice damage

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 21:43:10 2018 No.4976635

>>4976581
Melee characters do not use non-physical damage unless their skills give them it. If you are just using plain non-physical damage that isn't obtained from a skill, then:

>damage won't scale with any form of enhanced damage, whether it is from strength, dexterity, skills or whatever else
>critical/deadly strike will not double your damage
>your life/mana leeching won't get any better
>poison does not help put enemies into hit recovery
>poison is especially bad since it is limited by its inherent rate, attack speed does next to nothing for it
>these damages can only be scaled with incredibly expensive and/or rare gear
>immunes are way worse for these damage types than they are for physical damage

The only exceptions I can think of are if you have very powerful runewords (you won't get these without finding something else that is much better first) or if you find Gimmershred (you can only find this near the end of the game and you will likely find a really good physical weapon before you find this).

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 22:29:39 2018 No.4976715

>>4976581
trust me, you'd be better off concentrating on physical damage and just finding decent secondary damage based on either the equipment you find (or, for a paladin, you could specialize in one of the elemental auras, holy shock paladins are pretty common and useful)

Anonymous Mon Aug 13 22:35:42 2018 No.4976726

>>4976060
mdr is incredibly effective at reducing tomb vipers bugged poison clouds, also gloams (i'm assuming you mean mdr because magic resistance isnt really a thing for characters)

>>4975026
blessed hammre
sanc
holy bolt
teeth
bone spear
bone spirit
berserk
magic arrow
idk magic offensive seems to exist to me

>>4976635
a melee character should ALWAYS have a source of cold damage (chill) and poison damage/pmh/open wounds (prevent regen)
stacking it isn't really effective though

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 22:43:02 2018 No.4976737 >>4947576 Yes it is gated like Diablo II.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 03:48:37 2018 No.4977136 >>4976726 aren't the tomb vipers countered with point damage reduction (pdr)? gladiators bane, life everlasting mod, etc. a googleable post contends that their poison cloud can be negated with around 45 pdr

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 07:16:01 2018 No.4977359 >>4976726 yes, magic offense exists, but it's really a 'thing' in that it will only exist for specific builds. getting onto a character without very specifically creating that character to do magic damage isn't really possible.

Anonymous Tue Aug 14 07:18:45 2018 No.4977363

SItting at the frozen tundra on my single pass full clear druid run. so far, I sit at level 43 (that's going through every area completely on 8 players 1 time). my conclusion: fire druids are really not very fun, but act 5 is going much more smoothly than act 4 because of less fire resistance on the monsters. fissure is a lot more effective now. killing bosses is a huge fucking drag, holy shit. volcano seems to do absolutely shit damage even when i pop it right under them, and fissure is just so slow a killer it's ridiculous. granted, my gear is not good because of single pass - haven't had any great drops yet - but i feel like it would be going much faster if i just went melee werewolf with crushing blow. i bet this would make killing regular mobs a lot slower though. I might respec to a werewolf druid for nightmare to keep things interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 17:18:15 2018 No.4978354 >>4973469 This looks too nice and clean. What else besides glide wrapper is in place?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 15:13:35 2018 No.4980368 what best mod for d2

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 15:14:22 2018 No.4980370 >>4980368 Plugy + your own personal modifications.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 22:49:39 2018 No.4981414 >>4980368 Depends on what you want out of a mod. There are too many different tastes for there to be a single best.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 23:52:27 2018 No.4981578 holy shit this thread has basically died in the past week guess I'll add some new life how bad do you think activision is going to botch D2-HD

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 06:03:17 2018 No.4982000 So, steel vs strength vs malice?

Anonymous Thu Aug 16 06:38:45 2018 No.4982029

>>4982000
strength is probably the best among the group, as the crushing blow is great for bosses. steel is solid considering how early you can get it, definitely worth using for the first act or two. malice isn't great, damage mods are pretty weak and the drain life thing isn't awful but it's obviously not good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 06:58:52 2018 No.4982053 >>4981578 They haven't confirmed they're even working on it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 11:24:20 2018 No.4982438 since when is more easy get a mid rune than a fucking EL?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 11:44:27 2018 No.4982458 >>4982438 Since never, I'm not sure you know what a mid rune is, or are exaggerating, and you also should be doing countess on normal if you want an el.

Anonymous Thu Aug 16 12:51:28 2018 No.4982542

>>4982000
>Strength
For bosses, or for everything if you have enough attack speed.
>Malice
Have it on weapon swap for guaranteed PMH/open wounds. Also great for eradicating a strong monster's defense. Just a few hits will set all act bosses in normal to 0 defense, 8-15 hits for nightmare bosses and 17-29 hits for hell bosses.
>Steel
Fastest, good for killing weak monsters quickly.

Anonymous Thu Aug 16 16:17:26 2018 No.4983048

>decide to re-run Duriel for shits and giggles
>fuck, what tomb was it again?
>go through tombs one at a time
>getting garbage from the gold chests, where the fuck is the real one?
>go from one side of the Canyon to the other
>no staff room
>did I miss something
>go back, check all seven tombs again
>none of them have an entrance to Duriel's chamber
Is this normal? I could have sworn I've done this before. Hell difficulty if it matters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 17:41:35 2018 No.4983289 >>4983048 go to the sorc tower and kill the end boss the one that is missing from the symbols near him is the one with Tal-Rasha's tomb in it

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 20:46:27 2018 No.4983708 >>4983289 Yeah, and then I went to that tomb, and STILL no staff room. They are just empty rooms with enemies in them. What the shit is this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 21:15:11 2018 No.4983759 >>4983708 try resetting the map by switching difficulties then reclear the right one

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 22:02:32 2018 No.4983841 >>4983708 Start the game with -seed and tell me what you get. I want to see if it really has no staff room.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 17 02:39:03 2018 No.4984285 >tfw spend the last 4 weeks trying to find a Lo rune fuck, i'm boutta give up

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 17 04:07:31 2018 No.4984359 >>4984285 I'm harvesting gems right now. Runes are something that I will not search for because of the probability. Try playing a new class that you haven't played before to raise your enjoyment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 17 06:03:54 2018 No.4984510 >>4984285 Just do LK (on hell) for a few hours.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 17 18:50:50 2018 No.4985915 diablo 2 is a good game, so is diablo , diablo 3 is not! :)

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