/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4913342]

Are there games every JRPG fan MUST have played? Post them in this thread

[Anonymous No.4913347]

I have never played Earthbound and my life is just fine.

[Anonymous No.4913349]

>>4913347

[Anonymous No.4913350]

>>4913342
https://kotaku.com/the-20-jrpgs-you-must-play-1222229344

[Anonymous No.4913354]

>>4913347
Yeah sure

[Anonymous No.4913356]

>>4913350
>unironically linking clickbait garbage

[Anonymous No.4913357]

>>4913350
Isn't kotaku a normie onions publication?

[Anonymous No.4913360]

FF 6,7,9
Dragon Quest 3
Chrono Trigger
Phantasy Star 4
Earthbound
Suikoden 2
Lufia 2
Pokemon
Grandia
Xenogears

[Anonymous No.4913363]

>>4913347
I played Earthbound for the first time recently and it broaded my mind so much, I finally understood all the le epic references people had been making to it all these years

[Anonymous No.4913364]

Oh geez...all of them? Most of them, at least. I've always been a fan of JRPGs.

If I had to list a few in no particular order:
Suikoden 2
Final Fantasy 6/7/8/10/12 (crucify me)
Final Fantasy Tactics PS1 and Advance
Breath of Fire 2/3/4
Lufia 2
Lunar 1/2
Grandia 1/2
Koudelka
Arc the Lad 3
Dragon Warrior 7/8 (haven't played others)
Jade Cocoon
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Not sure if Legend of Mana counts as JRPG but I liked it
Secret of Mana
Star Ocean 2nd Story
Wild Arms 1/2/3
Xenogears
Vagrant Story

That's off the top of my head. I know I'm an uncultured faggot but I plays what I likes.

[Anonymous No.4913365]

>>4913360
HAHAHAHAHAHHA DIDNT EVEN INCLUDE FF8 WHICH IS THE BEST FF GAME KEK JEJ DISCARED FOR SHIT TASTE

[Anonymous No.4913367]

>>4913342
I don't know. Nah. Maybe. Probably not. I like Chrono Trigger and Phantasy Star IV, but someone who loves Wild Arms and FFIV and never played CT/PS IV is still having a good time.

[Anonymous No.4913370]

>>4913347
It's pretty good if you're not too jaded by the hype

[Anonymous No.4913372]

>>4913363
it's such a brilliant parody of the JRPG genre, I think everybody who has played one in their life should give it a try

[Anonymous No.4913376]

You MUST play these:
FF7
FFT
Suikoden II
CT

You probably should also play these:
FF series
DQ series
BOF series
WA series
Tactics Ogre/Ogre Battle
Valkyrie Profile
Legend of Mana
SaGa Frontier

[Anonymous No.4913382]

>>4913342
No, there are not.
I will abstain from posting what I believe to be the best JRPGs because they deserve a better thread than this.

[Anonymous No.4913409]

I never hear people from Lufia.>>4913360


Its such a frigging awesome game, the music still sends deep chills to ny spine,

[Anonymous No.4913436]

Terranigma is nice and unique

[Anonymous No.4913440]

>>4913342
Saga Frontier 1 is the most underrated JRPG tbqhwyf. Listening to its soundtrack right now.

[Anonymous No.4913441]

I don't think every game is for every person. Some games might be loved by some, and disliked by others. I think it has to do with how your "taste" has evolved over the course of your life.

One should also be at the "right state" mentally to be able to absorb and enjoy a game. e.g. Don't start a story heavy game if you don't feel like reading and investing in the story/characters. Come back to it later.

Having said that, I am not going to recommend a popular one like FF8 (which is a masterpiece in every way, and it has SOUL, if you disagree get out of my face )

I am going to recommend
>Lost Odyssey
I heart this game so much.It's a nice tragic story, great memorable music. Nice combat, and more importantly the game has SOUL. So try it out.
>It's for the 360, so I guess it's not that accessible for everyone :-/

[Anonymous No.4913448]

>>4913441
>>Lost Odyssey
not retro

[Anonymous No.4913450]

>>4913448
OP didn't specify.

[Anonymous No.4913480]

>>4913450
Read the rules.

[Anonymous No.4913491]

Are there any RPGs on the N64? I don't think I've seen a single one before.

[Anonymous No.4913494]

DUAL ORB 2
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2 BRO LUAD

[Anonymous No.4913496]

secret of evermore is underrated

[Anonymous No.4913501]

[Anonymous No.4913504]

>>4913441
It has a PC port anon.

[Anonymous No.4913512]

>>4913356
>>4913357
That makes it exactly the kind of thing OP is looking for. It's what he gets for being a lazy ass who doesn't even bother to do some research himself for looking for some popular RPGs.

[Anonymous No.4913516]

DUAL ORB 2. It has sniper rifles and monster trucks

[Anonymous No.4913532]

>>4913450
>>4913480
Yeah it's one thing to make reference to a non-retro game in an otherwise retro conversation (for example, mentioning that FFX does away with the real-time aspect of Final Fantasy battle system might be appropriate to a particular discussion). But answers to "hey recommend me games" should be limited to retro.

[Anonymous No.4913549]

Xenoblade 1, 2 and X
Chrono Trigger
FF4, 6, 7, and 9
Tales of Vesperia, Berseria and Graces F
Skies of Arcadia
Octopath Traveler

[Anonymous No.4913615]

>>4913516
this but ironically

[Anonymous No.4913709]

Retro only
Dragon Quest 3
Pokemon RBY and then GSC
EarthBound
DUAL ORB 2

[Anonymous No.4913710]

>>4913364
>Wild Arms 1/2/3
5 as well. If for no other reason than the kickin' soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.4913767]

>>4913347
You're sorely missing out, enjoy those cool internet hipster points for now though.

[Anonymous No.4913795]

>>4913494
>>4913516
>>4913709
>Not Tecmo's Secret of the Stars

[Anonymous No.4913819]

>>4913767
But Earthbound is the first game in the Cool Internet Gaming Hipster Starter Pack™

[Anonymous No.4913843]

Dua Lorb 2

[Anonymous No.4913897]

>>4913347
I tried, it's not good.

[Anonymous No.4914461]

Final Fantasy 5

[Anonymous No.4914476]

Dragon Quest 5. Best in the series.

[Anonymous No.4914490]

>>4913549
>missing the best Tales game

What a weird list. Phantasia is miles ahead of the other Tales games (although Vesperia and Graces f are both pretty good). Skies of Arcadia is the best JRPG though, no other game has satisfied me in the same way.

>>4913347
I've heard many people say that they don't need a girl because they've got their 2D waifus, their sex robots, or whatever else they claim is superior, but what they all have in common is that they've never actually experienced being together with a woman. So, although you may be satisfied with how your life is now, it may still be better once you play Earthbound. It may not be the best JRPG but it's a relatively unique experience none the less.

>>4913350
Don't link to Kotaku even ironically because it earns them money.

>>4913357
They're more of an SJW opinions magazine. They mostly complain about how there's not enough women in new game X or how there's too many scantily clad women in game Y.

[Anonymous No.4914498]

I liked legend of mana. please play that anons.

[Anonymous No.4914594]

>>4913350
I met Jason Schreier some years ago. He was tiny, like 5'1" or something, and really pale and clammy. There was sweat all over his body. He looked someone with the flu, except he didn't have it and that's just how he always looked. He talked in this horrid nasally, lispy voice, but also had all these neurotic Jewish vocal ticks; that, "hrnnn" noise they sometimes make after completing a sentence. Really bizarre. There was a woman with him who looked deeply uncomfortable.

That's my Jason Schreier story. Hope you guys like it.

[Anonymous No.4914597]

Depends if you include strategy games a well. Anyway going from personal experience
Treasure of the Rudras
Chrono Trigger
Earthbound
Shining Force II
Tactics Ogre (all of them)
Various FF (any remake of I, VI, VII, VIII, X

[Anonymous No.4914612]

>>4914594
Anyway, here's a list of video games for you to read, digest, mull over, and masturbate over. Pull out your dicks and snap some pics for these games.

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VI
Suikoden III

Wow, I'm tired of making this dumb ass list!

[Anonymous No.4914617]

>>4914612
The more I think about JRPGs you MUST PLAY, the more I think there really aren't any, and you should just exercise instead.

[Anonymous No.4914675]

>>4913710
This!

[Anonymous No.4914683]

>>4913342
star ocean 1/2/3

the psp version is the best English version of 2

[Anonymous No.4914686]

>>4913440

I love you, Anon. I am the White Rose to your Asellus.

[Anonymous No.4914693]

I only saw one tally for Terranigma...

And I will be the first to suggest Chrono Cross.

[Anonymous No.4914790]

>>4914617
I can't kill dragons and rescue damsels in distress when I exercise though (at best homos will admire me)

[Anonymous No.4914807]

>>4913436
>>4914693
As much as I adore the game, is it objectively one of the must-play JRPGs (leaving aside that it's an ARPG, since Secret of Mana and Tales etc. had also been mentioned)?
The story and setting are very unique at least in the first half.
I was going to say "if you don't love the story and leave it out of your assessment of the game, your verdict might be 'no'", but I guess that must be true for at least some of the other games mentioned here.
Either way, I wish the game was simply more well-known. It not being released in the US hurt its recognition, internet or no.

[Anonymous No.4914837]

>>4913360
>Grandia

is it better on saturn or ps1 someone tell me

[Anonymous No.4914849]

>>4914837
Hearsay, but I once heard the Saturn version is better. No English version for that (not even a patch, but you'd have to check), so you'd need to know moon.

[Anonymous No.4914895]

>>4913342
True JRPGs only - no pseudo, "pretty-close-to" JRPGs.

(SNES)
FFIV, FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Lufia II, Terranigma, Earthbound, Breath of Fire (I & II)

(PSX)
FFVII, FFVIII, Xenogears, Suikoden (I & II), Alundra

The above are, IMO, "can not miss" classic JRPGs. You might consider some better than others, or some have flaws you don't like, but overall these are giants.

When I think of the "golden age" of JRPGs, I think of these two systems, pretty much exclusively.

Of course, other RPG-esque games exist, for these and other platforms, but I think that this list speaks for itself.

>"Why isn't FFIX on the list?"
Because it's alright, not 'the best'.
>"Why isn't FFT on the list?"
Because it's not a true JRPG. It's also slow & grindy.
>"Why isn't XXX on the list?"
Because I personally don't consider them 'the best'. Make your own list if you disagree.

[Anonymous No.4914906]

>>4913491

Well, If you discount OoT and MM as not JRPGs, then there's 'Hybrid Heaven' (not really a JRPG), and 'Ogre Battle 64 - Person of Lordly Calibre' (not really a JRPG, either)

[Anonymous No.4914908]

>>4914906
Well what makes a JRPG a JRPG?

[Anonymous No.4914909]

>>4914895
>FFVIII
You mean IX

[Anonymous No.4914923]

>>4914908

Most JRPGs would be
>turn-based combat
>linear plot, usually involving beating a world-threatening "evil" big bad
>Big bad has multiple 'forms'
>child/teen protagonists
>some form of overly-cute animals (e.g. moogles, chocobos, cat hybrids, etc)
>over-arching "good vs evil" theme; no ambiguous heroes or villians
>redemptive story archs
>Made by a software company in Japan, by Japanese programmers

Just off the top of my head.

>"Well, what *don't* you consider a JRPG, then?

>Romance of the 3 Kingdoms - Wall of Fire (SNES)
>Shadowrun (SNES)
>Front Mission (SNES)
>Pokemon series (GB/GBA/DS/others)
>Parasite Eve (PSX)
>Vagrant Story (PSX)
>Castlevania: SotN (PSX)

[Anonymous No.4914934]

>>4914923
I'm mostly on board with you, but how the hell are the core pokemon game not JRPGs? They literally meet all of your own criteria.

[Anonymous No.4914938]

Dragon Quest III
Final Fantasy VI
Chrono Trigger
Earthbound
Pokemon

[Anonymous No.4914951]

>>4914934

For me, Pokemon is difficult to classify as a JRPG. If I class Pokemon as a JRPG, I must also class Harvest Moon as a JRPG & that is a bridge too far, IMO.

Then again, having avatars fight for the protagonist(s) is not new: Shin Megumi Tensai is a very well-known JRPG (pure, people might say).

Perhaps it's just me being stubborn. I will admit that the 2nd generation of Pokemon games had far more fleshed-out JRPG elements, but in the original Blue/Red/Yellow, I feel that they're more adventure games. Beginning and an end, some problems along the way, but JRPG? IDK.

I still think that the most pure example of a JRPG would be the Final Fantasy series; they're iconic & influenced the entire industry, to the point that other JRPGs felt like imitations.

I'm sure if I typed "is Pokemon a JRPG" in Google, I'd get a lot of hits, I feel.

....tl;dr? Probably.

[Anonymous No.4914962]

>>4914934
Bizarrely, most of the Final Fantasy games also don't meet his criteria because they don't feature turn-based combat due to the ATB system.

Fact is that it's hard to define 'JRPG'. The term means more than just 'Japanese RPG' but its elements aren't amazingly clearly defined. You recognize one when you see it, though, but there's a lot of room for leeway.

[Anonymous No.4914982]

>>4914962

Yes, it's actually frustrating, because I think there are games that are clearly JRPGs (Dragon Quest), others that are just RPGs (Ultima), then there are RTS RPGs (Diablo) and adventure RPGs (A Link to the Past, River City Ransom), and RPG-esque games made in Japan (Shenmue).

>You're over-analyzing this
Probably

[Anonymous No.4915028]

only 2 people said phantasy star 4 damn

for a pokemon clone dragon quest monsters 2(gbc) is pretty impressive and highly underrated

[Anonymous No.4915091]

>>4914951
Pokemon games are JRPGs based around team building and recruiting primarily. The overworld exploration is also identical.

[Anonymous No.4915151]

>>4913372
>Haha play it because its a parody xD
I hate you

[Anonymous No.4915153]

>>4914612
why do you talk like a jrpg npc
why dont we talk like jrpg npcs

[Anonymous No.4915159]

>>4915151
Hey I never said that it wasn't good on it's own

[Anonymous No.4915163]

>>4913710
>kickin'
lmao how old is this nigga

[Anonymous No.4915423]

>>4914490
Wait so other JRPGs are just sex robots and Earthbound is like being together with a woman? Where did you go to metaphor school?

[Anonymous No.4915435]

>>4915163
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.4915504]

>>4915435
I have you one better: "Why is Gamora?"

[Anonymous No.4915514]

>>4915423
Don't you know? Earthbound is better than sex

[Anonymous No.4915597]

>>4915163
He's just jivin'.

[Anonymous No.4915631]

>>4915163
If you must know, 33.

[Anonymous No.4915637]

>>4915514
can confirm, no woman has touched me the way itoi has with this game

[Anonymous No.4915714]

>>4915631
>tfw when Jesus had lived, started a religion, was crucified and resurrected by the time he was your age and all you've accomplished is shitposts on a Zimbabwean bookbinding forum

[Anonymous No.4915771]

>>4913342

No

Every rpg is the same, contrived story, time wasting mechanics, 50+ hours of your life gone. Next month you will probably not even remember most of the story and will probably never play it again because RPGs are barely playable since they focus so heavily on the """""rpg experience"""""""""""" and huge time investments instead of engaging gameplay

"muh pokemon"

Pokemon is one of the worst RPGs ever made, the core mechanic is literally level grinding, it's only good because you were 10 years old watching the cartoon and there were a bunch of funny looking creatures

"muh action RPG"

adding a button to swing your sword in REAL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't make the action any good

"muh final fantasy 7"

nostalgia incarnate with shitty early-adopter 3D graphics

"muh chrono trigger"

final fantasy but with REAL TIME!!!!!!!! enemies on the map

[Anonymous No.4915781]

>>4915714
I'll take the long, uneventful life over the short one that ends with spikes through my hands.

[Anonymous No.4915786]

>>4915771
Into the pasta folder it goes.

[Anonymous No.4915797]

>>4915786

disprove it loser

[Anonymous No.4915804]

>>4915797
>Disprove my firmly held opinions that I clearly arrived to with pure objectivity

The extent of my caring is that it's a funny post, and will serve me well when shit posting in the future.

[Anonymous No.4915808]

>>4915804

what did CT do that FF didn't do beyond superficial

[Anonymous No.4915827]

>>4915808
Define what you mean by superficial, just so we're on the same page.

[Anonymous No.4915832]

>>4915808
>>4915827
That would be a good idea to do before starting, I can already see everything being deflected as
>superficial

[Anonymous No.4915897]

>>4915804
It's not even funny. It reads like babbys first troll and is painfully try hard.

[Anonymous No.4915915]

>>4915827

>real time enemy
>cross tag moves
>time travel
>mini games
>some shitty tutorial

[Anonymous No.4915924]

>>4915915
So non-random encounters and abilities that are unique to certain combinations of party members are superficial differences to you? Anything else?

[Anonymous No.4915930]

>>4915714
Jesus probably died at the age of 40

[Anonymous No.4915957]

>>4915924

it's just a menu selection like every menu selection in combat

[Anonymous No.4916017]

>>4913819
liking something critically acclaimed isn't Hipster you fucking inbred

[Anonymous No.4916038]

>>4916017
earthbound was unpopular with most people when it was new, and that acclaim comes from its cool hipster cred cult following

It really was the first hipster game

[Anonymous No.4916074]

Here's the deal folks, if anyone in this thread has listed any of these then you have yet to put on your big boy pants.They might have been fun when you were 9 years old but it's time to be an adult now and re-examine games you once loved with an adult and critical mind. It's ok to admit things you once loved are actually shitty. It helps you appreciate new games even more and makes you a better person.
The sad thing is i know they are listed by multiple people in this thread, and i haven't even read it.

Xenogears - Unfinished clusterfuck.
Suikoden 2 - Embarassing Shounen trash, terrible music... i mean really really awful stuff, rubbish level design, full of bugs and glitches, unfinished translation (some conversations look like this "*(&U()(*@JJ*^&*&%)". But hey the sprites are alright aren't they?
Breath of Fire series - B grade, generic to the core and incredibly poorly written. Capcom and Konami needed to stick to what they knew - really cool action games with no plot.
Any of the Mana games - Incredible music and graphics but shit level design and combat and writing. Collision detection in boss battles is non existent. Don't try and present me an action real time game when it's not and i can take damage from the other side of the screen when it's the enemy's turn to attack.
Legend of Dragoon - Pathetic attempt to cash in on FF7's popularity, everyone even magazines could see this upon release, why can't you see it today? are you still 9 years old? It's coz you haven't played it in 20 years isn't it - go on you can admit it.
Golden Sun series - more silly shounen crap but it looks really nice.

You should probably play these ones at least:
Chrono Trigger
Panzer Saga
Mother 3 (way better than earthbound)
Earlier gamearts stuff like Lunar and Grandia 1
Vagrant Story
Skies of Arcadia
Paper Marios
Probably one of those Tales games, Symphonia or Vesperia (ps3)

PS - Terranigma is incredibly overrated. It's a 7/10 at best, Quintet have done far better.

[Anonymous No.4916090]

>>4916074
>Mother 3
>Better than Earthbound
You better be shitposting, Mother 3 is very inferior to both Earthbound and Mother 1, Gameplay and Story wise

[Anonymous No.4916142]

>>4916074
You probably should have shut up about your "must" play after criticizing those choices (not that any of those were must play either but some yours aren't too)


>Paper Mario
literally tuned down SMrpg except for Spm which is completely different, Keep in mind that SMrpg is not even a "Must" so why would a tuned down version be one?


>Mother 3 better than EB
Only in story, It's worse in everything else unless you like the rhythmic battles.
I would rather play Mother 1 or 2 again rather than suffering the tedious first 3 chapters on M3, Way too fucking linear too

[Anonymous No.4916276]

>>4916074
>You might have liked Ninja Turtles and Transformers when you were nine years old, but when you put on your big boy pants and play with them as an adult you'll realize they're gay as shit. This shit isn't fun for adults! What were they thinking!?

[Anonymous No.4916396]

>>4913342

Fuck Xenogears.

[Anonymous No.4916403]

>>4916074
>Xenogears - Unfinished clusterfuck.
True but when it's good, it's really good. Legit good not just teenager with no taste good. Too bad the combat wasn't better.

[Anonymous No.4916436]

>>4916074
>recommending modern Tales AKA weebanese CoD.

You almost had me going there.

[Anonymous No.4916542]

>>4914895
>Because it's alright, not 'the best'.
it's better than VI and VII

[Anonymous No.4916554]

>>4914962
atb combat is turn based with a time gimmick

[Anonymous No.4916717]

what makes dq3 stand out?

also i assume the dual orb 2 posters are being ironic

[Anonymous No.4916846]

>>4916074
>Terranigma is incredibly overrated. It's a 7/10 at best, Quintet have done far better.
Like? If you say Soul Blazer, I might accept that, but IoG shitters need not apply.

[Anonymous No.4917417]

>>4916717
it has the best world of the series, the games after are too railroaded in exploration

[Anonymous No.4917445]

>>4913342
Anachronox

[Anonymous No.4917451]

>>4914895
By what metric do you consider JRPGs good or bad? If you can't answer this your opinion is worthless.

[Anonymous No.4918165]

>>4917451
If it's a JRPG, it's good. It may be very good or merely good, that's the difference.

[Anonymous No.4919028]

>>4913342
These are several i can remember off the top of my head

Pokemon Crystal
Lufia 2
Live A Live
Final Fantasy 6
Suikoden II
SMT: Nocturne
SMT: Persona IS and EP
Oblivion
Earthbound
Phantasy Star IV
Dual Orb 2
Dragon Quest Monster: Joker
Romancing SaGa Minstrel's Song
Fire Emblem 7

[Anonymous No.4919645]

>>4916074
breath of fire 2 is better written than panzer saga, stupid hipster

[Anonymous No.4922078]

>>4913365
It's the worst of the PS games, and I include Tactics in that

[Anonymous No.4922083]

>>4922078
>badmouthing tactics
Lift your shirt, you're getting it in the bellybutton.

[Anonymous No.4922087]

Played a couple of hours of Albert Odyssey. So far it is VERY boring and the RE rate is pretty high. Will it ever become better or I can skip it and nothing of value will be lost?

[Anonymous No.4922106]

>>4913347
It's fine I have never ever played FF7. 4 and 5 are my favorites though.

[Anonymous No.4922114]

>>4916074
>Suikoden II
>bad
>Skies of Faglandia
>good
shit taste confirmed

[Anonymous No.4922120]

>>4922114
I had it on dreamcast and understood the praise. Finished it only two years ago on gcn emulator. Still not good.

[Anonymous No.4922125]

>>4922120
>never understood

[Anonymous No.4922180]

No one ever mentions Threads of Fate. Bummer.

[Anonymous No.4922213]

>>4922180
I'm fairly certain that game was exclusive to the Target Store Kiosks and you couldn't actually find it anywhere

[Anonymous No.4923635]

>>4922213
Seriously? Damn shame if so. Honestly, it's one of my favourite RPGs. I try to squeeze in two playthroughs (Rue and Mint) at least once a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_w5xhx46bg

This fucking jam alone blows most OST out of the water.

[Anonymous No.4923679]

[Anonymous No.4924892]

Why RPG's fans have to deal with an eternal (literally since the 90's) and nauseating debate about what's an RPG and what's not. You don't see shmup or racing games fans arguing about any stupid game being a true something or whatever.

[Anonymous No.4924910]

>>4924892
racing games
>you race

shmup
>you shoot em up

RPG
>you role-play?

no one can seem to find a definition on role-playing since it's such a vague and easily twisted term, as opposed to virtually anything else, so no shit there's going to be debates

[Anonymous No.4924986]

>>4924910
After 40 years of genre history it should be at least a little clear.

[Anonymous No.4925001]

>>4924910
>no one can seem to find a definition on role-playing since it's such a vague and easily twisted term
It's a sub-genre of strategy. Most RPGs are tactical squad-based games, and even those that aren't put an emphasis on decision making elsewhere like dialogue choices or divergent quests. You could really chuck out the term RPG altogether. I prefer to categorize games into one or more of the following:
>Action
physical challenge
>Adventure
exploration
>Strategy
decision-making

And further analyze them from there. All games fall into those categories. For example, Racing and Shmup would be action games. Sub-Genres are largely buzzwords for marketing and if you start deconstructing games to take a really good objective look at them you will find they are useless for actual categorization.

[Anonymous No.4925032]

>>4924892
because weebs are fixated on rpgs and nintendo. the end.

[Anonymous No.4925092]

>>4924892
Please categorize the following games as Action, Adventure, Action/Adventure or Action RPG:
>Zelda 2
>Zelda LTTP
>Soulblazer
>Illusion of Gaia
>Beyond Oasis
>Secret of Mana
>Super Metroid

[Anonymous No.4925151]

>>4913356
>>4913357
>>4914490
nothing wrong with the kotaku list and this site makes money too.
It's pretty much a stupid list anyway: nobody in this whole thread has even alluded to the ps2 remake of phantasy star.

[Anonymous No.4925480]

>>4925092
I haven't played all of them but it's mostly Zelda-like games, then Metroid (it's own genre too), and Secret of Mana as the only RPG?

[Anonymous No.4926690]

>>4916074
>Legend of Dragoon - Pathetic attempt to cash in on FF7's popularity
>everyone even magazines could see this upon release
citation needed
>why can't you see it today? are you still 9 years old? It's coz you haven't played it in 20 years isn't it - go on you can admit it.
How shit were you at additions?

[Anonymous No.4926737]

>>4924892
Because the genre was poorly thought out and implemented from its inception. It tried to recreate some elements of tabletop roleplaying in games by adapting the systems that only exist to simulate things that all games already do in their code. From the beginning it was this confused attempt to mix two different mediums without caring about the strengths of each, that's why you have people with such vastly different ideas of what makes an RPG. Above you see an anon considering them a subset of strategy games which is perfectly valid if you look at their mechanics by themselves. Others put more value on what those mechanics are attempting to be in service of - the roleplaying, and base their idea of what the genre is on that. Others are even more confused as a result of what I talked about and think roleplaying in games doesn't exist without stats.

[Anonymous No.4926898]

>>4913364
>Vagrant Story
this

[Anonymous No.4927059]

>>4925092

Action/Adventure
>Zelda 2
>Zelda LTTP
>Beyond Oasis
>Super Metroid

Action RPG
>Soulblazer
>Illusion of Gaia
>Secret of Mana

None of those games are straight Action or Adventure.

[Anonymous No.4927063]

>>4927059
What's an example of a straight adventure game on console?

[Anonymous No.4927115]

>>4927059
Zelda 2 it's an rpg, you level up, ffs it eveb has a jrpg overworld

[Anonymous No.4927126]

>>4913347
Nope, your life is already ruined. If you don't play Earthbound between the ages of 7 and 11 your life becomes a living hell and you end up dying from a smack overdose in a gutter.

[Anonymous No.4927309]

>>4915771
Tell me her name, anon. Did it hurt so much?

[Anonymous No.4927323]

>>4927115
You also level up in Call of Duty. This doesn't make it an RPG.

[Anonymous No.4927417]

>>4916074
>It's ok to admit things you once loved are actually shitty
What if I can accept it can be kinda shitty but still love it eg. FFVIII

[Anonymous No.4927462]

Stop liking what I don't like: The Thread

[Anonymous No.4927538]

>>4926737
You just need to see what the vast majority of games labeled as RPG's have in common, and there's your definition. Problem is people consider "RPG" as some sort of quality elitist concept and not a genre, so they try to exclude 95% of RPG's from their definition so they can keep thinking to be smarter for playing some particular sub-genre.