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Why did retro games had such detailed bathrooms?
Like in all retro games mirrors had reflections, you could flush the toilet, turn showers on, etc.

Now in modern games you rarely have reflection in the mirrors.

Here is exmaples of SOME good bathrooms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UA5Ly5Sf08

>> No.4911602

>>4911596
>Why did retro games had such detailed bathrooms?
It was a novelty, you had to do something like that to show off.

>> No.4911650
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>>4911602
so absolutely no excuse to go back.
Modern games need to keep same level of interactivity and add more.

Mostly i care about showers and bathrooms.
Though horror games actually never forget to implement a bathroom in to a game

>> No.4911670

>>4911650
>so absolutely no excuse to go back.
But who gives a shit, you still are going to buy the game no matter what.

>> No.4911695
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>>4911670
No, i always wait for reviews first and specifically check for bathroom/washroom interactivity level.

I don't want to play hours in to the game to find out you can't even flush the toilet.

As an example here is a list of games that actually passed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5uTe3y44Gk

But i want to make a retro list, of all the best retro bathrooms.
Talking Deus Ex, Duke Nukem, Half Life, and more. And it's pisses me of that good modern games a so hard to find.

>> No.4911698

>Game from 1996 has functioning mirrors
>Games in 2018 don't

>> No.4911719

>>4911695
Well, one customer less, ten customers more, because these ten customers don't do such things.

>> No.4911745

>>4911596
because the devs knew their games were shit

>> No.4911758

There was somthing about the duke nukem bathrooms that every game after they where bathrooms were present I’d always go In hoping for porno/hookers present lol

>> No.4911759
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4911759

Hitman games always had and have good looking and detailed bathrooms.

>> No.4911797
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Max Payne 1, every toilet is flushable.

>> No.4911810

>>4911759
I mean, that's because it's important for the gameplay. Bathrooms are always best places to kill people, stash the body and take their clothes. That's also why side alleys with dumpsters are also extremely detailed in Hitman games.

>> No.4911813

>>4911596

>playing with those disgusting 3dpd models.

your thread sucks.

>> No.4911881

It's not a bathroom if it doesn't have a bath in it, crazy Americans.

>> No.4911883

>>4911698
As I recall, there's more trickery to getting mirrors to work properly with models.

>> No.4911942
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>>4911883
it's funny but HALF LIFE BETA had functional mirrors, but when the game came out, they were just grey panels

Half life + half life remake bathrooms: https://youtu.be/Jp33L6JOPBg?t=2m37s

>> No.4911979

>>4911883
there is no excuse, it's just a way of keep fps at bay
blame consoles

>> No.4911982
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4911982

Bathrooms are just funny. Remember this asshole who turned every room in Rocko's house into a bathroom? That shit was funny.

>> No.4911986

>>4911982
Whoa, haven't seen that shit in like, 20 years.

>> No.4912008

>>4911979
how do mirrors affect FPS?

>> No.4912027

>>4911942
>had functional mirrors
They were copied brushes and entities viewed through a semi-transparent func_wall brush entity
Not a true mirror but a level design trick which later resurfaced in Blue Shift with "reflective" floors.

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4912086

Retro Point n Click games always had exploitable bathrooms.

>> No.4912097
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4912097

I wouldn't consider it retro, but iconic all the same

>> No.4912108
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4912108

Washrooms, specially women washrooms are always the scariest in horror games.

I prefer more cozy showers of Hitman 47

>> No.4912123

>>4912008
To render a reflection the system literally has to render everything in view of the mirror twice. so if it's rendering a guy, if there's a mirror it has to render that guy twice. Scale that up to a big complicated game and it gets expensive quickly.

>> No.4912143

>>4912123
desu since static meshes where implemented, instancing the same model is not memory expensive, also, actual reflections are made with shaders, it's a post process effect and they are no to gpu expensive depending if the algorithm
yet, they are not used

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>> No.4912176
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I never even thought how complicated can a mirror be in a video game.

I actually have a new level of respect for games with working mirrors. And of course, functional toilets.

>> No.4912205

>>4911596
coding reflections successfully was a way devs willy waved to game journos during the gfx wars

its actually quite hard to program reflections.

in duke 3d build if you put a mirror facing a mirror you get all sorts of problems from what i vaguely remember from being a kid.

some devs cheat and make a mirror room with a mirror NPC moving when you move exactly giving the illusion of a reflection but infact its just a copy of your player you see,this is how the ps2 silent hill did it.

doing this used much less resources

also in sonic R the loading screen had the shiny metal sonic head they put that in soley cause they could they even came up with a new technique in coding just to pull it off.

now though? most games just leave a frosted effect on the glass and dont bother coding reflections, cause everything in games looks nice now so its not worth the effort.

>> No.4912210

>>4912143
Not retro, but Uncharted 4 did this really well. That's about all it has going for it.

>> No.4912219

prey had a nice native american bathroom

>> No.4912227

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJZi_xlGMCk

Embassy level in Mission: Impossible

>> No.4912278

>>4912219

What do Native American turds smell like do you think? Haha, asking for a friend.

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4912284

>>4911695
wew lad

>> No.4912369
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4912369

In original Deus ex you could use hand blowers, flush toilets, open shower booth, get in and turn the water on.

>> No.4912616

>>4912369
>Healed 1 hit point

>> No.4912640

When Prey demo came out i was impressed with the bathroom interactivity

>> No.4912782

>>4912640
Oh yes! Prey was a great example!
Also every game from Quantic Dreams.

>> No.4912796
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>>4911602
Touché, this thing perpetrated even to that questionable game that is Duke Nukem Forever. I mean, the very first 5 minutes or so you are fucking with all sorts of shits, literally.

>> No.4912801

>>4911596
Duke HRP is so disgusting. Life sentence to all who were involved.

>> No.4913282

How can you forget Soldiers of fortune

>> No.4913384

>>4911881
Yes because calling it a water closet doesnt sound like a caveman trying to describe what a toilet is

>> No.4913387

>>4911596
Because dumbass they aren't reflections of light they are literally a copy of the room.

>> No.4913575

>>4913387
So because of that, new games can't have them? What is your retarded brain trying to think?

>> No.4913582

>>4911695
>i always wait for reviews first and specifically check for bathroom/washroom interactivity level.
>I don't want to play hours in to the game to find out you can't even flush the toilet.

I didn't know /vr/ had YLYL threads. I lost. Someone screencap this guy.

>> No.4913602

>>4911883
No there isn't, it's just performances considerations due to consoles

>> No.4913721

>>4913582
I can't stop laughing. I am going to use this as my signature for business emails.

People need to know that i do my research.

>> No.4913750 [DELETED] 

>>4911695
absolutely based.

>> No.4913773

>>4911670
>buying games
lol

>> No.4913775

>>4913773
based

>> No.4913782

>>4913775
>based
lol fuck off queer don't reply to my posts

>> No.4913785

>>4913782
cringe

>> No.4914065
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OP's video.
What did i just see

>> No.4914345

>>4912284
What game is that?

>> No.4914351

>>4911695
this is better than anything from blue check reviewers

entertainingly thorough, and the European accent makes it even better

>> No.4914352

>>4912160
My favorite game bathroom. So many hours in multiplayer rigging proximity mines in there.

>> No.4914353

>>4914345
FF7!

>> No.4914363

>>4911650
not true, modern horror games just model the bathroom like every other room, just with a commode/shower and mirror. no interactibles
outlast 2 didn't have them. res evil 7 didn't have any interaction. evil within 2 didn't have any interaction either
compare that to silent hill P.T. where the commode even had a jump scare and the sink had an interaction element
hell even fucking prey doesn't let you do anything in the bathroom and neither does fallout.
does ruin immersion a bit

>> No.4914364

>>4911982
How did you remember that?

>> No.4914365

>>4914363
Fallout games usually let you drink water out of the toilet

>> No.4914369

>>4914365
>drinking from toilet is same as drinking from the sink w/ a shitty animation attached to it instead of an actual flush or water effects. can't even wash your face in fallout
atleast fallout 3 had some diseases as consequences, fallout 4 even got rid of those(or made them super low probability idk i only played it for 60 hours and then dropped it coz it was so boring)

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>>4911695
>i always wait for reviews first and specifically check for bathroom/washroom interactivity level.
Never change.

>> No.4914590
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OP is this your blog?
https://videogametoiletmuseum.tumblr.com

>> No.4914596

>>4911759
>when you see it you'll shit brix

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4914904

SWAT 3 always had cozy bathrooms

>> No.4915585

>>4912160
Anyone ever play Russian Toilette? One player gets the golden gun and hides in a toilet, the others have to open doors one by one

>> No.4915625

>>4915585
based, sure i have but that sounds fun

>> No.4915647

>>4911797
>mfw.jpg

>> No.4915734

>>4911650
>>4911596
Those 3D models and extra high res textures look so goddamn fucking bad.

>> No.4915759

>>4914369
That must have been a mod you played, Fallout 3 had no diseases besides radiation exposure.
Did they remove that in 4?

>> No.4916269

>>4915585
Possibly
Did do king of the bathroom though
One player with the golden gun tries to hold the bathroom against the horde of other players
Things would get intense, especially when someone spawned in the vent

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4916584

>being a fucking wageslave
I just want the week to end so I can stay at home and post retro bathrooms screenshots

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>> No.4917484

>>4911596
it's not a real reflection, it's literally just the second floor that is flipped and shows copies of characters from the real room

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4917485

>>4916584
>when your job sucks so much of your soul out that you cant relax anymore and enjoy old school stuff

>> No.4917496

>>4911596
>all retro games mirrors had reflections, you could flush the toilet, turn showers on, etc.

If by 'all retro games' you mean 3D Realms games and Warren Spector games.

>> No.4917501

>>4917484
>it's not a real reflection

Of course not, it's in a video game.

>> No.4917534

>>4911695
It's a shame 8-bit Pwny Club doesn't exist anymore, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=capDUGdxo2U

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>>4911596
>>4917484
>>4917501

>> No.4919326

>>4911982
You can never have too many bathrooms.