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Previous thread: >>4863550

>Try to keep it /vr/-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+ Dreamcast). Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright! (maybe)
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Discussion of video processing and scaling devices is okay, but try to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories

CRT Pastebin (WIP) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
General Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdf
S-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
BKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

/crt/ Discord Server : https://discord.gg/EFWPCYE

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Collaborative Consumer CRT Project Survey : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd3_OraDPRRN_OzQ4r_-CqoNPR9J0r2KtFrpV6iuXdxM3DDJg/viewform

>> No.4906371

Any devices out there which can take a PC's 31kHz VGA output and convert it to 480i Component YPbPr?
Or maybe just S-Video?
I wanna connect my PC to my CRT with Component but I'm not sure if it actually supports 480p (unlikely but possible) or not.

>> No.4906428

>>4906371
>(unlikely but possible)
What model?


Also, an Extron VSC would do what you're looking for; Input from a PC(range depends on specific model) scales it down to 480i (or a few simply lower VGA resolutions) over RGB, Component, S-Video, and/or Composite.

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4906649

>>4906371
>Any devices out there which can take a PC's 31kHz VGA output and convert it to 480i Component YPbPr?Or maybe just S-Video?I wanna connect my PC to my CRT with Component but I'm not sure if it actually supports 480p (unlikely but possible) or not.


jrok will do it

http://www.jrok.com/hardware/RGB.html

>> No.4906656

>>4906649
as an arcade dude JROK makes the best shit.

his multi-williams boards have saved many a joust, robotron and defender from becoming 60-n-1's

>> No.4906661

>>4906656
im a brainlet, what happened and what did you do to fix them? Also do you use a vga cord converter or do you make your own cable?

>> No.4906904

After troubleshooting about a dozen or so fucking things I finally got rid of those lines by.. Slightly turning the contrast up more. Boy do I feel dumb. At least I don't have to throw this set out now.

>> No.4906932

>>4906904
nice context

>> No.4906962
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4906962

Yo guys, reposting this from the last thread. So I got this monitor (pic) the other day for Melee netplay, but now that I have it I want to see what else I can use it for. I have a Dreamcast VGA cable (though I need a connector since the monitor only has a male VGA cable running out lol) and a retro PC build is an option too. Another guy also mentioned that I could buy some arcade boards that do VGA out, like the NAOMI, Atomiswave, or System 246; are there any other boards that do native VGA out? I've been interested in buying some PCBs for a while now, and this seems like the easiest way to set them up and play. And of course I'm glad to hear any recommendations of how to put this thing to use. Thanks guys!

>> No.4906993

tried adjusting geometry
holy fuck everything makes it worse
even if I stop it from being aligned to the left edge, I feel like it's not as good
and I can't tell if squares are square or rectangle

>> No.4906996

is there anything wrong with using composite crts?

>> No.4907053

>>4906371
most decent gpus with tv out came with din to component adapters and would do exactly that, just not well. 480i is all you'll be getting though, and it scales everything to that.

>> No.4907057

>>4906996
absolutely nothing wrong
the most important thing on a CRT is that the geometry is good and that it's not a model that has lag
dot crawl can also be a problem but it depends on the console and the tv

>> No.4907080

>>4906993
did you replace the capacitors first?

>> No.4907086

>>4906996
a nice toshiba theaterviewSD will look awesome over composite.

>> No.4907129

>>4906996
Of course composite is an inferior video signal, but it can still look pretty good, especially on smaller CRTs where dot crawl is less noticable

>> No.4907207
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4907207

My 1989 13’ Zenith Space Command! With my NES and Genesis hooked up to the RF through an RF splitter. With matching wood grain Zenith VCR.

I’m seriously considering passing this setup onto my kids. Things will be so different by the mid 2020’s to the 2030’s. I would want my kids to have some kind of frame of reference to the amazing time they will live in, and learn to appreciate what they have compared to generations before.

>> No.4907230

>>4907207
My dad wanted to leave me his baseball cards and starting lineup action figures but I didn't care. I still wouldn't want that junk around, Chances are your kids won't care about your stuff.

>> No.4907232

>>4907207
>Things will be so different by the mid 2020’s to the 2030’s. I would want my kids to have some kind of frame of reference to the amazing time they will live in, and learn to appreciate what they have compared to generations before.
More like, they'll see how far we've fallen

>> No.4907236

>>4906348
absolutely disgusting

>> No.4907257

>>4907207
the tube or flyback will be too far gone by then. also, hi r/crt/!

>> No.4907374

>>4906649
It won't go 31kHz down to 480i 15kHz, you still need to set the video card to output the resolution you want.

>> No.4907396

>>4907207
https://www.theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981
Your kids won't give a shit unless you start them at a very young age, and then you're just setting them up to be made fun of at school for liking gay old video games.
Your time is your time and you child's time will be your child's time. The reaper takes us all, don't waste time trying to make your kids like the shit that you like.

>> No.4907397

>>4906371
Yeah a transcoder + crt emudriver + amd card.
>>4906996
Yes you're getting rubbish image quality.

>> No.4907432

>>4907396
>>4907230
oh yeah, who would ever want their parent's old stuff?
you should totally just take anything old and put it directly into the trash, go out and buy only ikea furniture and electronics from walmart. Then just rent everything else for your whole life to make sure your kids don't have the burden of your stuff.
Actually, don't even have kids. That way nobody will ever even know you existed. How dare you even consider leaving a legacy.

>> No.4907504

>>4907374
yeah just use crt emudriver

>> No.4907505
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>>4907396
Lol must be nice not having a hereditary gift from your parents, or having parents that don’t bother showing their kid something cool they used to enjoy, or gaining a frame of reference on the past and learning to value and appreciate what they have now, compared to what their parents had.
You sound like a blast to hang out with pal. Take your black pill elsewhere.
And yes I already plan on starting them young. That tv/vcr and those two consoles will be in their bedroom by 6. I can’t think of a better bonding experience for two boys then over video games
>>4907432
Lmao, the only people with that worldview are those who came from shitty households.

>> No.4907587

>>4907432
Why would I want anything that reminds me of my parents?

>> No.4907606

>>4907587

Were your parents assholes or something?

>> No.4907607

>>4907587

t. nigger

>> No.4907626

Is it common for a CRT monitor to drop down in refresh rate during games? I have mine set at 120hz at 1024x768, but when I bring up the display information screen during a game, it's running a 75hz (same resolution).

>> No.4907630

>>4907626
Some games can't handle high refresh rate. Many games have logic tied to FPS and won't go past a certain point. It's less an issue in older games and you'll frequently find games from the mid 2000's and back that'll run at more CRT tier refresh rates.

>> No.4907648

>>4907129
is it good for n64 games?

>> No.4907656

>>4907648
yes, N64 is blurry to begin with
doing an RGB and de-blur mod is like polishing a turd

>> No.4907662

>>4907587
News flash, not everybody has shitty parents. Some of use actually like, sometimes even love out parents, and want something to remember them by.

Sorry your parents are such failures in raising you.

>> No.4907663

>>4907656
It brings the unfortunate baggage that a lot of N64 games just weren't meant to be seen without the blur or in a high quality signal. Don't get me wrong, it helps, but the difference between a Saturn or PS1 3D game is jarring still. Something like Bulk Slash or Panzer Dragoon or Vagrant Story or Mega Man Legends 2 will still blow away what the N64 does.

>> No.4907684

>>4907207
>>4907257
>crossposting from reddit
FUCK OFF

>> No.4907905

>>4907257
>makes a retard statement
>reddit

Christ this place used to be so nice

>> No.4907941

>>4906348
>that show
I used to have a crush on ZD, but 500 Days of Summer killed it. I think if I'd seen New Girl when I was still smitten it wouldn't be nearly as funny.

>> No.4907943

>>4907505
How crushed will you be if they don't give a shit and just want to play Marvel vs Minecraft on their phone?

>> No.4908008

When I play my SNES the brightness of the whites kinda 'oscilates' really quickly, or vibrates. It's like a constant blinking of sorts, losing a bit of brightness and then coming back in an instant.

Does this mean something in my SNES is broken? I've tried and it seems to happen both on RF and AV (my trinitron doesn't have SVIDEO or anything past that sadly). Can I fix this or do I just buy a new SNES and try to sell this one away?

>> No.4908032

>>4908008
try a different power supply
official nintendo if possible

>> No.4908352

What's the cheapest, crappiest GPU I can use over PCI-E so I can use CRT_Emudriver with RetroArch/GroovyMAME?

>> No.4908361
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>>4907663
so how does this look?

>> No.4908450

>>4906348
Some modern HD shows do look good on a CRT but they are almost always better on a CRT if the signal is also good.
The dude who posted that was probably a poorfag who had to stick with RF, and had no DVDs of New Girl lying around.
However, some modern shows are meant to be viewed on an HDTV.
But some HD remastered shows (usually anime) still look amazing on a CRT even in their remastered form.

Gundam Wing is a great example of an old TV series which had a remaster that looks amazing on a CRT.

>>4907941
What is the exact reason in that film that killed it for you?

>> No.4908501

>>4908352
a 5th gen radeon

>> No.4908529

I see a trinitron on fb marketplace and I just wanted to know what I should ask the seller. It looks like its sitting in a garage.
I know I should ask if it works, the screen size, model number? I can't think of anything else

>> No.4908602

>>4907943
They ain’t going to have a phone or whatever equivalent they have then until their 13.

Until then, they get Pokémon on gameboy.

>> No.4908609

>>4908529
just the model number should be enough to get info on it, and if you can try it out when you get there.

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>>4906962
So after doing a little browsing online, I found out there’s a Wii/Playstation VGA cable for 480p games (I know it’s not retro, but at least it’s CRT related). Has anyone ever tried using one of these? I’m worried is won’t work with my monitor because apparently the sync on green signal can be problematic with some monitors. As always, any advice is appreciated :^)

>> No.4908628

>>4908618
the cable does component to vga conversion, so it'll work. For PS2 you might need to do 480p selection blind (hold X+/\ for games that support it) because menus are 480i (barring some FMCB custom setups)

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>>4908361
looks like N64 still, blurry but it is what it is. I don't like how the detials just aren't there for the system. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad or anything, but it's just not the impression RGB from other systems gives.

>> No.4908662

>>4908609
try it out like just turn it on or bring like a ps1 or ps2 and test my system?

>> No.4908674

>>4908662
send it a signal through composite at least, just to see how it looks. Should only take a minute so it wouldn't be a big deal.

>> No.4908702

>>4908674
sweet deal
thanks for the tips

>> No.4908703 [DELETED] 

>>4908630
it runs better than on that than an hdtv, don't think anybody can deny that

>> No.4908812
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4908812

My friend gave me his old Sony Trinitron and while testing it out I've discovered that the left side of the screen has this purple tint. It's super noticeable on bright backgrounds. Is there anything that I can do about this? Funny that my friend said there was nothing wrong with this tv. :/

>> No.4909226

>>4906962
Here’s another picture of my monitor! I got the adapter for my Dreamcast today and it looks super nice. Even better than my PVM!

>>4908628
Awesome, thanks man! I’ll try setting up my FMCB to force 480p once I get this cable

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4909236

>>4909226
>>4906962
Of course I forgot the picture

>> No.4909259

>>4907505
Good man! My 10 year old son has grown up with playing retro his whole life with me. He loves new games of his own, like stupid Fortnite, but he always loves sitting down to get as far through Sonic 2 as he can, or taking turns with one of his friends running through Mario 3.
One of my favorite memories with my son was when we beat Double Dragon 2 on NES. It was the first time in my life I ever saw the ending to that game and I've been trying to beat it since I was like 6 or 7! Was amazing to be able to do that with my son.

Crazy thing is I just gave him his first pocket knife and showed him how to whittle and now all he wants to do is sit out on the porch and whittle away sticks all day with me instead of running around with his friends. It's amazing when you know how to raise and bond with your children.

>> No.4909581

Just wondering if 20L5 guy is still around? What were the old computer there? I don't know what they are but one in the middle had some carts and the ones next to them look something like a comodore style computer. I might be interested if they are still around and you'd be willing to ship.

I'm the dude doing the rgb mod, still havent tested the sync stripper but I did make some progress on the mod. All that's left to do is wire and mount the scart port, the switch is all buttoned up.

>> No.4909586

>>4908812
have you tried degaussing it yet?

>> No.4909593

>>4906656
>his multi-williams boards have saved many a joust, robotron and defender from becoming 60-n-1's

Those boards are damn good. I used one in my joust while the boards were sent to bob roberts for repair. There is a very very very slight difference on joust. I forget what it was now, but I remember it might have been something to do with killing pterodactyls. I was playing joust back then about an hour a day, so unless you were that into it you'd never notice. I have a gutted joust cabinet I got for $20 or something that I plan on making a multi williams out of, that or a dedicated sinistar, haven't decided yet.

>> No.4909668

>>4908450
>But some HD remastered shows (usually anime) still look amazing on a CRT even in their remastered form.

I recently re-watched the dragon box edition of dragon ball on my 20" pvm. It was an almost transcendent experience. You could see the animation cels in a lot of places, really cool after growing up seeing them over the air through an rf port and watching them on that shitty orange box set.

I used to think some of the animation in dragon ball was really good but somehos cheap. I think it's more about elegance through economy of animation cels. If you watch closely, sometimes you'll see the same cels (expecially special effects/explosions) re used in different episodes. It's pretty damn cool piecing together that stuff. Sorry I kind of got rambley but it's pretty neat how much action they can get sometimes out of a minimum of animation. Lots of camera tricks too and even some LED(maybe incadescent) lights under animation cells in some instances.

>> No.4909676

>>4908529

Model would be enough, or if they can take a pic of the back inputs. If it's a flatscreen there will probably be geometry issues but usually unless you're turbo autist they won't bother you. The issues often don't mean a rats ass if you're playing old games.

I second the other anons, bring some system to check it out if the seller is ok with that.

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4909702

had a cool find recently

Sony VPH-D50Q, $50 at a yard sale B)

have spent the last two afternoons adjusting convergence and cleaning. unsure of the hours - would like to check but can't access the service mode for some reason? there's a key combo that you enter on the remote ( service manual says: enter, right, enter, right, up, right, down, right, enter ) I'm supposed to get a service mode confirmation message but I'm just seeing a blank screen. Anyone familiar with these sony projectors?

would love to upload some pics of this thing in action so any help would be appreciated!

>> No.4909728

>>4908032
Thank you I will try this!

>> No.4909734

>>4909702
Pretty familiar. Make sure you have fresh batteries in the remote or connect it directly to the projector via 3.5mm cable.

>> No.4909737

>>4909676
thank
yeah I'm just using it for old PS2/1 games but I would like to use a Wii too if I can

>> No.4909741

>>4908032
HOLY SHIT THIS WAS THE ISSUE

My power supply was at 6 for some reason

Thank you so much man

I love you

>> No.4909749

Opinions on the JVC I'Art line? Specifically the Av-27f475?

>> No.4909797

>>4908630
which games is this?

>> No.4909803

>>4908618
Doesn't do sync on green, it gives out RGBHV. The conversion itself works fine but the quality of the cabling is pretty shitty, expect a bit of audio buzz and possibly picking up interference. The green jack is luma passthrough, can hook it up to an SD TV/monitor to figure out what you're doing while setting the console to 480p mode, unplug it after.

>> No.4909813

can someone explain service modes for these tv's?

I dont have the original remote for my 1990 trinitron, and there is no button on the set for menu. If i get some cheap universal remote, could i access the service mode.

I'm assuming you guys would need the model number, ill grab it once i get home.

>> No.4909819

>>4907505
what book is that?

>> No.4909876

>>4909813
got the model

Sony KV-20EXR10

>> No.4909903

>laseractive(s) had poor video quality (looked like signal reflection)
>find a pr-8210 player
>it has the same symptoms but worse

What's with these old game-playing laserdisc players and bad video? Is it capacitors or something?

>> No.4909924

>>4909813
>>4909876
i just bought a replacement remote (original). How to a go about calibrating my t.v., if the image looks fine to me, should i even bother messing with it.

>> No.4909959

>>4909586
I dont have any degaussing tools. What do you recommend I do to try fixing it?

>> No.4909981

>>4909959
this video might help, but youll need to get a magnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOyKuQf36TI

sometimes TV's have a built in degaussing feature. check out your menus maybe?

>> No.4910065

>>4909797
Cotton 2 Magical Night Dreams

>> No.4910205

>>4909924
older sony tvs didn't have service menus, just pots and shit inside for adjustment.

>> No.4910249

>at wife's parents house
>hook up their old CRT and start playing emulators on a TV box running libreelec
>fixed so it outputs in NTSC instead of PAL, everything looks nice except for some annoying jailbars
>one hour in the screen goes black and it stops working

RIP

>> No.4910453

>>4909734
Thanks for the reply! I've got the 3.5mm cable connected, do I need batteries also? All the other functions seem to work, it's just the service mode I can't access

>> No.4910473

>>4909749
better than sony shititrons

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4910562

another week, another round of cr tvs to pick up for free

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4910645

rate this tv
>>4910562
nice, my area used to be like that but now goodwill charges fucking 40 for them

>> No.4910710

>>4910562
get that jvc if it's a d-series, which it looks like it is.

>> No.4910776

>>4910205
my thing does have picture adjustments that can be done with a remote. is that good enough

>> No.4910782

>>4910645
shit my goodwill as like the princess version of this

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4911424

Not exactly a CRT question, but am I am able to pair a universal remote with this?

>> No.4911461

>>4911424
>universal remote

hmmmmmmm

>> No.4911473

>>4911461
:(

>> No.4911476

>>4911473
Don't be sad mate, yes itll pair. look up the model of the vcr so you can get the right code.

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4911480

rearranged my room

>> No.4911490

yo not necessarily crt, but i got no other place to talk about this. Just picked up a 32 inch sony XBR9 LCD TV. Cost my 45 bucks and its one of the higher end sony's

Its got VGA, S-Video, Composite,Component, and of course HDMI

>> No.4911513

>>4909702
G90 owner here, service mode on it is enter, enter, up, down, enter. It should be the one in your manual, but it's worth a try. I don't know why the D50 would have a more complex sequence. Do you have a printed manual or a download?

>> No.4911532

>>4911513
>>4909702

I just checked for the D50, and it is in fact enter, enter, up, down, enter, as on page 38 (EN) of the installation manual

>> No.4911537

>>4911490
did i do good?

>> No.4911547

>>4911513
I downloaded the one from manualslib, I believe it says the code for the VPH-D50Q is enter, right, enter, right, up, right, down, right, enter, which I've had no luck with. I've also tried the one you mentioned and enter, enter, left, right, enter, neither of which seem to work :( I'm sure there's something out there. was told the curtpalme.com forums are a good place to start, so I think I'll try there as well. ty :~)

>> No.4911549

>>4911480
like the Mitsubishi, is that a diamondtron

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4911553

>>4911532
here's what I'm seeing

>> No.4911556

>>4911547
You might need to clean your remote, the contacts might be oxidized. Anyway,

http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/SonyD50_Install.pdf

>> No.4911561

>>4911549
it's a megaview, XC-3717c if you're curious
I love it for mame stuff

>> No.4911567

>>4911553
You're only supposed to enter the first sequence, and wait for the menu to appear. you have like 2 seconds between button presses, so press firmly each time.

>> No.4911579

>>4911561
cool

>> No.4911587

I apologize, I don't know which sequence you mean. I'll try the one in the manual again with extra-firm button presses and report back

>> No.4911597

thanks projector gang for all your help I honestly didn't expect a response

>> No.4911604

>>4911587
Just the one in step 6.

>>4911597
There aren't many of us here that I know of, all I remember right now is one other guy with an NEC or something, and it sounded like he was gonna get rid of it anyway. I think most people here are intimidated by the setup for them, but many people including myself seem to think they're worth the trouble.

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>>4911480
>>4911561
are you a wizard?

>> No.4911624

>>4911618
it's a vertical panorama you goof

>> No.4911630

>>4911624
I know I was just joshin ya lql

>> No.4911660

>>4911480
Three questions:
1. What monitor do you use with the Wii U?
2. Do those smaller PVMs see any use?
3. What kind of turntable do you have?

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4911702

>>4911660
1. I use the PVM 8045Q ( the smallest one ) with the Wii U, mostly to emulate gameboy color games. the best I can get from the Wii U is 480i but the interlacing doesn't really bother me on the small screen.
2. I use most of them regularly - I've taken the PVM 14M2U ( the one above the records ) to a friend's place for retro gaming, it was cool. the Ikegami TM 14-17R ( the vertical one ) doesn't see much use because I need to adjust the pots but I don't know how to do it safely when powered on. It will be a tiny tate setup soon. PVM 1954Q ( the one on the bottom ) is currently connected to my PS2. The big Mitsu is my general purpose raspberry pi emulation setup
3. It was a shitty one from goodwill and I trashed it. I'm in the market for a new one

>> No.4912009

>>4911702
if you wanna buy new

Audio Technica LP120 is the way to go

>> No.4912014

>>4911702
hey quick question about mitsubishis

Are they sort of like sony trinitrons where even the worst ones tend to be above average.

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>>4912014
I can't really speak for other Mitsubishi monitors but I love mine. It's a shadow mask monitor, which I guess is pretty divisive, but I think everything I throw at it looks great. I wouldn't get a big mitsu unless it's one of their presentation monitors - one with RGB inputs and the like. A 200lb TV is a big commitment

>> No.4912358

>>4912175
Keep them alive Lui

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>>4912320
But at least you can't yank it off the stand/shelf by accident.
I broke a 40" Samsung 4K last year by getting tripped up by an HDMI cable in the dark(don't ask). Damn thing only weighs like 20lbs. Flew off the stand like a cardboard box would. Smashed the panel. $450 bucks gone.

...Don't ask.

>> No.4912367

what can i do about a tv that makes buzzing/static sounds? the geometry is so good id hate the dump it out.

>> No.4912378

>>4912367
1. sit further back
2. turn up the volume
3. wear headphones

>> No.4912382

>>4912378
the tv (sony fs120) actually does have a headphone port, and the buzzing sound still persists even with headphones connected

>> No.4912386

>>4912367
Is your mains properly grounded?

>> No.4912387

>>4912386
I assume it is? Is there any way to check? I have connected 2 other crts in this room and they dont exhibit this problem

>> No.4912395

>>4912382
sounds like an issue somewhere on the audio board. I would recommend by passing the audio through the tv using some form of a amp and just hook up all your cables there and than video to the tv

>> No.4912428

>>4909236
Monitor sellers at computer shows on in my area used to hook a DC running Soul Calibur up to a multiplexer. Motherfuckers would just walk up and gape

>> No.4912432

>>4912359
damb my condolences. I don't like living in the future

>> No.4912436

>>4912175
keep them alive yui

>> No.4912459

>>4912432
Here's the thing too. Because of the EU and US gov's war on "carbon footprints", you'll rarely if ever find a flatscreen anymore with a good aluminum or steel skeleton. Even my old Samsung 1680x1050 monitors have an aluminum skeleton for support, but they were made before enviros started bitching about things they have no clue about. You see, in order to cut their "carbon footprint", companies have opted to cut out packaging(that's why modern game boxes are so flimsy) or metal from their goods. Plastic manufacture/processing outputs less CO2 than metal smelting/forging/pressing/etc. So now, those screens are very light. And very much more fragile.

Also, it's very unlikely that CRTs could be sold on the consumer level, at least not in any good quality, because modern environmental laws make it nearly impossible. That's one of the reasons we have LCD screens completely replacing CRTs.

>> No.4912583

>>4912395
Would you have an idea of what type of audio equipment i would need? All my life ive just stuck to tv speakers.

>> No.4912604

>>4912583
Anything that accepts audio in, most likely rca cables to any stereo system made in the last 20 years.

>> No.4912606

>>4912583
you need an amplifier and speakers
the cheapest thing would be computer speakers. they have an amp built in. but you will likely need an rca to 3.5mm stereo adapter to plug your consoles into them

>> No.4913018

>>4912583
and amp and some speakers

i recommend heading down to a local thrift chop, and pickup a cheap used receiver. Usually older ones will have more composite/component inputs along with maybe some s video inputs.

Speaker wise, you might be able to pick up cheap speakers at the thrift store, but if dot know what you are doing, id just recommend cheaper new speakers
These micas are and small and compact and relatively affordable

https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1531931318&sr=1-2&refinements=p_36%3A1253504011

>> No.4913241

What is a good way to connect my Wii to my pvm which doesn't have component support? Is there someone that makes a component to rgbs converter?

>> No.4913270

>>4913241
wii are only softlocked, you can get RGBS out of any wii

>> No.4913381
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I want to connect RGBHV cables to my PVM which is RGBS. Will using a T-splitter (like in this pic) to put the H and V cables into the Csync port work ok, or will it damage the monitor?

If the latter, what should I be using instead to convert the signal safely?

>> No.4913412

>>4913381
2nd this, I have one pvm that is rgbhv and another that is rgbs and would like to know what to do

>> No.4913414

>>4913381
I did that and it worked fine, idk how it would damage the monitor but maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in. Nothing bad happened to mine but I probably only used it like that for a few hours tops since I had to uninstall crt emudriver in order to play some non retro games with anticheat

>> No.4913547

I know a sony kv-24fs100 is good for ps1/ps2 but how about a wii?
i need progressive scan?

>> No.4913676

While I know that this thread is mostly about CRT TVs, I've got a new (old stock) CRT computer monitor. Was wondering if anyone knew of a reliable NTSC composite to VGA adapter out there. Was looking to also use the monitor for my Commodore 64 and a few other composite things if possible.

>> No.4914079

>>4913676
I was gonna recommend something but it looks like it's component only, however, KYA may be able to help you.

>> No.4914114

>>4913676
Consider the RetroTINK2X coming soon. Does Composite, S-video and component in to 480p HDMI out with proper 240p and 480i as well as PAL equivalents support, can get to VGA with an HDMI to VGA adapter attached to its output. Can do scanny loins if you like or do regular line doubling. No fancy deinterlacing so not ideal for 480i video stuff. http://www.retrotink.com/

For C64 use S-video.

If you don't care too much about scaling artifacts and a bit of lag the generic cheapo composite/s-video scalers are okayish, https://www.amazon.com/S-Video-Converter-Computer-Monitor-Adapter/dp/B071HPG793/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1531969976&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=s-video+vga&psc=1 for example

>>4913381
Very unlikely to harm the monitor, but could potentially harm your source device. What you're doing is shorting the horizontal and vertical sync output drivers together and hoping the average looks something close to a proper sync signal, for PVMs it's often close enough, but not always, BVMs seem to be much more picky and won't accept it.
The proper solution is an Extron RGB interface or similar that can produce proper combined sync out.

>> No.4914121

>>4913547
Having progressive 480p support is nice for Wii/Gamecube games (and PS2 where supported) but not absolutely essential. Getting 480p support on a North American TV usually means an HD model, which have their own set of issues since they're generally scaling everything to 540p/1080i adding a bit of lag and possibly artifacts.

>> No.4914130

>>4914114
>RetroTINK2X
Wont be able to do what I was aiming for since the monitor is VGA only. That said that still does look like an interesting piece of hardware that I may end up picking up for another use. Thank for the info all the same anon.

>generic cheapo composite/s-video scalers
Yeah, I was eyeballing one of those on amazon but the chance of latency being an issue is what was making me hesitant. Tried to find some additional info on that exact model you linked but came up short.

>> No.4914134

>>4914121
ok thanks
I got the tv and if need be I'll just us my flat screen for ps2/gc/wii games

>> No.4914135

>>4914130
https://www.startech.com/AV/Converters/Video/Composite-and-S-Video-to-VGA-Video-Converter~VID2VGATV2

>> No.4914136

>>4914130
RetroTINK2X + HDMI to VGA converter attached to its output.

>> No.4914137

>>4914135
>$207

hell naw.

>> No.4914140

>>4914137
there are some way cheaper on ebay, search for "VID2VGATV2"

>> No.4914210

>>4908450
Her character in it was both very believable as well as irritating. Irritating is how she is in New Girl as well but there it's played for comedy so I like it. I wouldn't find it as funny if I still thought she was cute though.

>> No.4914219

>>4914210
Funnily enough, I still think she is cute.
In (500) Days of Summer, I related to her character more than Tom.

>> No.4914304
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If you're blessed enough to own a JVC/Ikegami/Panasonic variant of this monitor, you've got one of the best around.

>> No.4914306

>>4909668
Too bad the quality of the dragon box isn't as clean as most anime. The film grain is pretty bad in the early parts

>> No.4914320

>>4914134
most ps2 games would be better on the SDTV because they are 480i

>> No.4914347

>>4910710
Seconding this. JVC D-series is excellent.
Also get the cute little Toshiba.

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So what does /CRT/ think about RetroArch's CRTSwitchRes feature? It's getting 31KHZ support now, might try and track down a VGA monitor for it since tracking down a P/BVM or anything similar in the wild is almost impossible for me at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZNmxTGmZBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGmLRuHFvRM

>> No.4914430

>>4914320
oh
well then i'll be jumping back and forth anyway since I want the wii to play most older nintendo games on the sdtv

>> No.4914858

>>4914375
What is this, exactly? The emulator detects when it's being used on a CRT and changes output settings appropriately or something?

>> No.4914865

>>4914375
240p games on a 31kHz monitor aren't worth it unless it has a super bright mode. Black frame insertion causes the image to dim too much on most monitors, and the motion blur is terrible without it.

>> No.4914993

>>4914865
Use a superwide resolution then.

>> No.4915003

Shadow mask vs aperture grille PC monitors? I've only been able to find a Syncmaster 997DF which is shadow mask. Coming from 3 Trinitron TVs, it seems a bit dark at times. It's my understanding these are the type of CRTs used in arcades, so some people prefer them on that basis.

Guess I will hold onto it until I can find a Trinitron type monitor (never)

>> No.4915015

>>4915003
PC monitors are nothing like arcade monitors, even if they both use shadow mask.
PC masks are much much finer (barring some super coarse super rare super old 13" monitors)

>> No.4915119

>>4914304
what monitor would that be?

>> No.4915207

>>4915119
A DT-V I imagine

>> No.4915258

>>4915003
Crank up the color values in the OSD. The default values are way lower than a consumer CRT.

>> No.4915339

>>4915258
Are there any tools to assist with improving them or is it done mostly going by eye?

>> No.4915384

>>4915339
Any tools would only serve to make them correct to broadcast spec, which is where they already are (or close).

Just make them as dayglo as you personally feel comfortable with. It won't be "right" but should satisfy your sense of "nostalgia" or other nebulous craving.

>> No.4915390

>>4914865
>240p games on a 31kHz monitor aren't worth it unless it has a super bright mode. Black frame insertion causes the image to dim too much on most monitors, and the motion blur is terrible without it.


why is that? refresh rate too high? I don't understand

>> No.4915405

>>4915390
Anon believes the only way to display a nominally 15khz resolution (224p/240p/288p being prime examples) on a 31khz monitor is to double the framerate.

You can however simply increase the horizontal resolution to a point where it becomes displayable at the original framerate, avoiding any frame interpolation nasties.

>> No.4915414

>>4915405
does doubling the framerate really mess shit up or something? if the game is nominally 60 hz is the crt just double spamming every frame or what?

>> No.4915536

>>4915414
The CRT isn't doubling anything, it just displays what it's fed. "60hz" games aren't exactly 60hz in any case, NTSC standard is 60/1.001 (~59.94hz) and many systems output further variations on this.

Therefore applying a blanket 120hz frame double is never going to work out cleanly. Best to output original framerate and rely on the display to sort things out.

>> No.4915578

>>4915414
Scanning the same image twice means hitting the phosphors twice which means the image stays on screen a bit longer than usual which will fuck with you

>> No.4915621
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Is $300 for an Ikegami TM20-17RA a good deal?

>> No.4915948

>>4915405
>You can however simply increase the horizontal resolution to a point where it becomes displayable at the original framerate, avoiding any frame interpolation nasties.

how is this done? crt emudriver? groovymame?

>> No.4916474

>>4915405
Increasing horizontal resolution doesn't change the horizontal refresh rate, it's the vertical resolution that needs to be doubled.

Can use GroovyMAME, or just set the resolution you want manually.

>> No.4916480

>>4915948
Any graphics card utility which allows custom resolutions to be set. I have an Nvidia Quadro so it's easy peasy.

Set the horizontal to 3840 to minimize/hide scaling artefacts.

>> No.4916484

>>4916474
It increases the horizontal scan frequency, which is what we need to achieve to run 15khz content on a 31khz+ display.

>> No.4916498

>>4916484
>It increases the horizontal scan frequency
Except it doesn't; Even at widths in excess of 4k, if it's still 240px vertical at 60hz, you're still going to be at ~15.7khz.

>> No.4916591

>>4916498
so is the electron gun just going thru the motion of tryin filing in the blank space on either side of the screen if the resolution is set to 3840?

>> No.4916616

>>4916498
Well, whenever I've used this setup both Nvidia Control Panel and my Lacie EBIV have reported compliant Hori scan frequencies. Point is, it works beautifully.

>>4916591
No. The image just gets compressed horizontally to fit the display's aspect ratio. A bit like anamorphic widescreen but in reverse. So long as there's a sync pulse at the end of each line the CRT does the rest.

>> No.4916683

>>4916616
since you mentioned anamorphic widescreen;
what would ever use this? what would the widescreen button on my PVM ever be good for?

>> No.4916698

>>4916616
Your GPU is futzing with timings somewhere, since the digital width of the line has no effect on how quickly the beam moves, only how quickly it switches. It's still moving at the same speed as it would with a 320x240, 640x240, etc signal.

>>4916683
>what would the widescreen button on my PVM ever be good for?
If you're feeding it a source that is outputting a widescreen only picture. It's preferable over baking in letterboxing, as the latter reduces the vertical resolution you're actually able to use. The vertical compression that the widescreen button applies still makes use of the full 480 vertical lines that would make up a full frame, versus ~360 of active video if you bake in letterboxing to a 4:3 image instead.

>> No.4916818

>>4916484
Changing *vertical* resolution is what changes horizontal scan frequency.

>> No.4916881

>>4915536
>"60hz" games aren't exactly 60hz in any case, NTSC standard is 60/1.001 (~59.94hz)
wow it's a 0.1% error
you might actually get a single frame microstutter every 16 hours
imagine the horror

>> No.4916889

>>4916881
Could fuck up a good wavedash

>> No.4917016

>>4915536
1/0.06Hz = a duped frame every 16 seconds. Or for example SNES does about 60.098 = a dropped frame every 10.2 seconds.

>> No.4917029
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>find out about /crt/
>chillin in bed browsin it for the first time
>discover bvmemes
>read the hunting guide
>five minute later i'm lookin at local listings
>see a listing from a tv studio getting rid of their stuff, including a bvm 20F1E
>am actually the first to contact the guy
>get it on the cheap with controller, cables, and a sony DSR alongside because good resell value might as well take it
>bvm is in great shape and has a decent 38K hours

Thanks /crt/, says a lot about luck, my hunt took less than 10 minutes.

Now i gotta get terminators, and was thinking about replacing the capacitors before making any real use of it. Has anyone here done it themselves ? Are those capacitor kits on ebay a meme ?

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>>4917029
>return image search
>no other results

people actually think this is decor.

>> No.4917102

>>4917074

What's your fuss with 70's european art & design ?
To stay on topic unlike you i'll say the BVM almost fits the stuff from that era, the white models look space age as fuck i wish i had one.

>> No.4917107

>>4917029
>Are those capacitor kits on ebay a meme ?
Mostly. Its nice if you just want exactly what you need, but you're likely getting cheap electrolytic caps and being way over charged (caps are dirt fucking cheap, some are only pennies each)
And if you're going to go though the effort of replacing them, spend the extra $2 and get solid caps, they'll last longer then the tube it self.

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>>4917102
>The gumball machine with the billard balls.
>The buttplug lamp

Maximum hipster cred, there, Bucko.
I can certainly say that a store mannequin with what appears to be a leash attached to it's neck was not something to see in the 70s, anywhere.

Pic related, it's the topic of the thread.

>> No.4917156

>>4917029
Doesn't it bother you that everything about this setup other than the monitor and the SNES is kitschy as fuck?

>> No.4917165

>>4917156

Not at all, i don't expect most people to understand 20th century decorative arts save for some movements like Art deco which is pretty popular with americans.
My whole home is decorated with pieces ranging from the 50's to the late 70's, ceramics, lamps, paintings, mirrors, clocks, rugs, hifi setup, everything.
I'm an antique dealer and i'm used to some people just seeing the "kitsch" of this time period. It's rich in vibrant colors, plenty of materials that aren't used anymore like Formica, space age designs that are out of this world... So yeah, it might look kitsch to the untrained eye. For example that yellow transparent sphere is a Fractal resin by François Godebski, it's worth a few bvms by itself. That's how i make and keep money. Almost everything in this picture has a good market value.

>> No.4917309

>>4916616
>No. The image just gets compressed horizontally to fit the display's aspect ratio. A bit like anamorphic widescreen but in reverse. So long as there's a sync pulse at the end of each line the CRT does the rest.

Having a hard time wrappin my head around this onee, if the beam is usually only goin 320 across and then you switch the resolution to 3840, shouldnt it take a lot longer to do its job?

>> No.4917313

For emulation purposes and CRT_Emudriver, I was thinking of buying a cheap GPU.

There's a 5450 with 2 DVI ports for cheap, and a 6350 for cheaper with a DMS-59 port that includes a DMS to VGA cable. Which one should I get?

>> No.4917319

>>4917313
do the dvi ports allow for one of those vga converters on the 5450?

>> No.4917323

>>4917319
Yep. It's just 5 bucks more expensive.

>> No.4917327

>>4917323
jew him down!

>> No.4917358

>>4917327
Not possible.

Is there any disadvantage to DMS-59?

>> No.4917381

>>4917358
I had never even heard of it until just now, maybe ask KYA?

>> No.4917382

>>4917165
but it looks dumb as fuck. why do you have pool balls in a gumball machine. Get some real furniture

>> No.4917384

>>4917358
No. It's just DVA and VGA squashed together on a big ass connector. If you use the same pins as VGA it's completely identical

>> No.4917403

>>4917382
ur mom looks dumb as af

>> No.4917406

>>4917165
I can see individual elements of your setup there being visually interesting on their own or somewhere else, but they're all clashing and making this really ugly look. Reminds me of my grandmother's house.
If you really like it, alright, but man does it look ugly.

>> No.4918652

>>4917309
can anyone shed light on this?

>> No.4918668

>>4917358
Works fine, just need the adapter cable to 2xVGA or to 2xDVI-I + a DVI-A to VGA adapter

>> No.4918753

>>4917403
People like you don't belong here; >>>/v/ ...or better yet, I even think /v/ wouldn't want you. >>>/b/ -this is where you belong.

>> No.4918772

>>4915621
Fairly expensive for an SD monitor. I'd pay that much for one with no serious issues. Send it a signal and see what it does.

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>>4909924
>if the image looks fine to me, should i even bother messing with it.

No. It's a rabbit hole. If it looks good, just use it. It's easy to fuck things up, so if you do, make sure your write down all settings that came from the factory.

>>4912009
>Audio Technica LP120 is the way to go
This is sound advice. Honestly it's a great unit for the price. I got a different stylus for mine, shure brand but I forgot the model.

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what would happen if I got one of these:

http://www.laaudiofile.com/iscanv2.html

and hooked an NES up to it through composite then use the vga out to connect to an slg 3000 or other scanline generator and then hooked the vga output cable into something like this (pic related):

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8668

would I be able to force scanlines onto an hdcrt or lcd or any hd television this way by way of component cables? Or would they get lost somewhere along the way?

>> No.4919448

>>4906348
I am also a fan of New Girl and it looks pretty good on a CRT.
Even if it looks better on an OLED 4K TV.
But, to be honest, New Girl is probably not the kind of a show that I would actively watch on a CRT.
I've heard rumours of New Girl being originally shot in 720p rather than 1080p but I can't confirm this.
And 720p looks pretty good on a BVM, even if most of the time, it looks better upscaled in 4K.

My first answer on which TV series would look best on a CRT would be the Extended Cuts of Friends on DVD, Seinfeld (since it's uncropped on DVD), and most especially, the unaltered TV broadcast versions of Neon Genesis Evangelion (the Blu-Rei version is altered, even if it looks really nice).

>> No.4919487

>>4906348

Next CRT general should be a cell block 6 edition with a clear institutional crt as the image.

>> No.4919491

>>4919092
>what would happen if I got one of these:

muh lag would happen.

>> No.4920174
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Finally got a component cable for my Wii, testing in a Sony Trinitron.

>> No.4920210

>>4920174
nice
let me know the results my bro gave me a wii with some component cables but idk the quality of cables
do you use the wii as an emulation machine?

>> No.4920394

>>4908812
Sounds like a yoke adjustment.
Had an old monitor with a similar issue, decided it was too much trouble and gave it to a friend.

>>4915621
NO

>> No.4920589

>>4920210
Yeah, I emulate NES, SNES, MS and MD without issues and it looks great, the jump to component makes colors look better but I think I need to adjust some stuff
My trinitron doesn't support 480p tho, so GC and Wii games don't look that good but I use a regular LCD TV for that (but I usually just emulate GC and Wii in a laptop with far better results)

>> No.4920606

>>4920589
I think most gc games look better on a crt using rca/composite. Most early 3d games look better with the extra blur from the shitty signal. Ill do a test on and post results with a ps1, saturn, dreamcast and n64.

>> No.4920626

>>4920606
And i guess gc too. But its not retro, so ill use resident evil remake.

>> No.4920813

>>4907230
That's an odd comparison because baseball cards have nothing to do with with games. I still have my dads hand me downs like his Texas Instruments TI-99 and all the games he had on it, but I like electronics too.

>> No.4921923

>>4917358
DMS-59 cards are actually from a generation earlier, and they aren't well tested. So it's really a 5450 with a funky port on it. I'd go the real 5450, DESU.

>>4916616
>whenever I've used this setup both Nvidia Control Panel and my Lacie EBIV have reported compliant Hori scan frequencies.
Because your system has decided not to output 15kHz at all, so it switches back to 640x480, mb? As a few ppl have already noted in words:

Scan rate = (lines per frame) x (frames per second)

Horizontal resolution is not relevant to that equation because it's not fucking there.

>> No.4921928

>>4915621
FUCK YES. Ikegami made the best 15kHz monitors the planet ever saw. If it's in good condition that's a good deal. Great would have been three years ago when it went for $50. A bad deal is paying $800 for a 20" BVM that won't even look as good.

>> No.4921930

>>4921923
Prolepsis: total lines per frame, including blanking interval. So 240p has 240 visible lines + ~22 blanking lines = 262 total.

>> No.4922586

I can't believe Sony didn't fix the DVD problem from the ps2 and let the PS3 convert DVDs to rgb.

>> No.4923972

>>4921928
Ikegami's monitors are some of the best in class, with the image the technology they use being a dot-trio shadow mask which is more akin to something you'd see on PC displays. The result is a finer dot pitch and a far more organic feel to the image that something like aperture grilles can't quite touch.

That said I would try to pay 10 bucks per inch, Sony is the brand with the pedigree of being expensive, I'd haggle personally. If I did end up having to pay 300 for it, I wouldn't be entirely happy but I'd like to get a set like that if I didn't already have the superior HTM-2050RA1.

>> No.4924197

>>4912175
Keep them alive Lui

>> No.4924229

>>4917029
Anon, this decor...does it have any particular meaning to you? Are these sentimental childhood objects? If not I'd recommend a new look, because this isn't very appealing. Especially that mannequin, it screams creepy.

>> No.4924309
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4924309

/crt/ newfriend here. I bought time crisis 1 and 2 recently and I wanted to aquire a crt to use my guncon. What would be an acceptable tv size to play time crisis on? Also, should I buy pic related. I'm willing to put 40 euros maximum on a crt.

>> No.4924312

>>4924309
32 to 40 inch is what i played on as a kid. Should be fine, but for guncon games you will want a place to set the television a bit higher than normal.

>> No.4924324

>>4924312
>for guncon games you will want a place to set the television a bit higher than normal.
np for that
the tv on >>4924309 is 21 inches tho. would this be enough? Would it be good enought to play other casual games like famicom, ps1/2, xbox classic, snes?

>> No.4924348

>>4907505
One of the coolest moments was when I hooked up my NES to a CRT TV up at my family's cottage and me, my older cousins and our kids all took turns playing Duck Hunt.

>> No.4924372
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4924372

Found this in my area. They are trying to get 120 for this, seems a little excessive.

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/ele/d/sony-trinitron-tv/6640297859.html

>> No.4924393

I tend to browse occasionally some offers here in Poland and I found this:
https://allegro.pl/video-monitor-pvm-95e-firmy-sony-i7455204604.html
120 pln is around 33 dollars.

Should I bother?

>> No.4924397

>>4924372

>33 dollars.

Why not? It's a cute little PVM and it doesn't cost that much. You would be hard pressed to find that in America for that price range.

>> No.4924408

>>4924324
Yeah for the most part, it should be fine. Im not sure why you are so worried. Its a tv, if you want a bigger one, get one.

>> No.4924416
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4924416

is it a fetish for sellers to do this kind of shit or something?

it's $10 so I might take them up on the offer

>> No.4924497

>>4907396
>not wanting something to remember your parents with
literal subhuman nigger.

>> No.4924687

>>4924416
It actually is. It's some obscure form of voyeurism that I can't remember the name of, but basically it's really easy to find TVs on Craigslist or Ebay with nekkid sellers in the reflection because they get off to the thought of someone seeing them naked without 100% noticing it.

>> No.4924802

>>4924416
I think some people just walk around naked and don't think about it when photographing a reflective surface

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>>4924802
You're extremely naive, anon.

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4924840

>>4924824
no I know about the other kinds of people, I just mean that it's probably not always a pervert.

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4924987

>>4924687
Interesting. I told him I wanted to take a look at the tv anyway.

>> No.4924990

>>4924987

I'm not so sure that's a "him," anon

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4925008

>>4924990
As long as the tv isn't one of those early, cheap flat screens from the mid 2000s I'll buy it. I also might ask them about the pic they posted just so see where it goes/if they get uncomfortable.

>> No.4925014

>>4925008
it's a sony fs120, probably a 27" by the look of it. I'll be praying for you that it's a horny single woman who wants a lay.

>> No.4925062

>>4925014
Thanks anon. I looked up the 27" fs 120 and it looks very similar to the tv in the pic, and it may have all the inputs I want.

It would be pretty sick getting that for $10 and a quickie. Just saiyan.

>> No.4925542
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4925542

>>4925062
keep us updated

>> No.4925562

total crt noob, posting for my vidya hertz
i found a samsung syncmaster 957df for 5 yuroshekels, is it gud

it does 1440*1920*64hz= 176947200pixelHz
divided by (1024*1280) = 135hz
can it do 1024*1280@135hz? am i retarded?

what do you guys look for in a crt?

>> No.4925596

>>4925562
it's not super terrible, the pitch is good but it's still just a 96khz 19" but it could probably push 1920x1440@60hz. also, I personally just look for the highest horizontal frequency while still having at least .25mm dot pitch but preferably .24mm. 110khz is the least I consider to be worth picking up.

>> No.4925669

>>4925596
well the spec sheet says it does 1920*1440@64 so it definitely should do that
but crts flicker sub 80hz and i wanna see how high it goes
will halving the resolution double the refresh rate?

>> No.4925673

>>4925669
>well the spec sheet says it does 1920*1440@64 so it definitely should do that
it can run it, but the tube still needs to be fine enough to resolve it.
>but crts flicker sub 80hz
topkek
>will halving the resolution double the refresh rate?
only the horizontal affects this

>> No.4925692

>>4925673
>topkek
do you not want to scoop your eyes out looking at a 60hz crt?
especially in a darkened room

also please explain more about the horizontal frequency, i have no clue

>> No.4925703

>>4925692
No, I have zero issues staring at a 60hz crt even if it's the only light source. I've done it for extended periods too, like 6+ hours. Even having it in my periphery vision doesn't bother me.

Horizontal frequency is the spec that determines what you can get out of a monitor. It takes into account the resolution and refresh rate, I don't know the exact numbers off the back of my hand but you can google this stuff I'm sure.

>> No.4925721

>>4925703
wait so all that matters is the image height and horizontal frequency?
why dont they make 800*10000 super quad ultrawides at 200hz?

>> No.4925961

>>4906348
>Someone Posted 153 Photos of New Girl Playing on a Samsung CRT on Facebook Edition
link

>> No.4926171

Have a Sony trintron with Barrel distortion, what do?

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4926696

>>4924416
I wonder if that's a girl or a fat boy

>> No.4926698

>>4926696
Knowing the luck of the guy that replied to the ad, a fat guy.

>> No.4927692

how to find high horizontal frequency monitors?
why didn't they make crt's wider if all that determines refresh rate is horizontal freq and image height?
did making it wider result in lower horizontal frequency?
why is google useless on this topic?

>> No.4927781

>>4927692
>if all that determines refresh rate is horizontal freq and image height?
I didn't really explain that correctly to you, which is my fault cause I'm a fucking retard. You should do some googling cause I really can't explain shit like this very well evidently.

>> No.4928069

>>4927692
Bandwidth, and actual use cases.

4:3 was perfectly fine for most use cases, which is the reason there are essentially no wide PC CRTs out there: Just not a high enough demand to make going through the hassle of spinning up and dealing with designing a quality wide tube a decent investment. That's why there are only 3 or 4 actual wide PC CRT tubes out there.

While making a wider image with the same refresh and vertical resolution doesn't actively increase the horizontal frequency requirements, it does however increase the required bandwidth to fit that additional information into each line of video. This increase requires high quality components all around, first of all the tube actually being able to resolve that information, but also the circuitry that drives the monitor, the cabling that connects the monitor to your source, and the source itself. Increase the refresh, and the require bandwidth goes higher still.

For a few random examples;

1600x1200p60 requires ~74khz h freq and ~173mhz of bandwidth.
Stretch this to 1920x1200 and you need 208mhz.

Move these up to 96p, and now 4:3 needs 118khz and 276mhz, but 16:10 now needs 332mhz.

To go even higher, 1920x1440p80 requires the same h freq as above (118) but a bandwidth of 332mhz; 16:10 in turn moves up to just under 400mhz, which is right at the edge of what the most modern (relatively speaking) GPUs are even able to push without artifacting and heavy interference cropping up.

>> No.4928328

>>4928069
how to even display resolutions that high on a crt? arent most vga only?

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4928390

>>4928328
>vga only
and ?
and yes, I know, vga is originally the resolution and not the connector

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4928421

>>4928069
>That's why there are only 3 or 4 actual wide PC CRT tubes out there.
That technology was never really meant for consumers. They were professional products that were generally priced out of the range of most.

>>4928328
>how to even display resolutions that high on a crt? arent most vga only?
My CRT PC monitor (Sony GDM-Fw900) handles 2560x1600 over VGA cable or via 5-bnc via DVI-I. At that resolution, it is 60hz. HOWEVER, as you reduce the resolution you increase the refresh rate(Hz). At 1920x1200 I am at 85hz. 1680x1050 @ 100. 1280x800 @ 140hz.

>>4928390
>and ?
I always love seeing other's with their GDM. Keep up keeping it nice!

>> No.4928424

>>4926696
>I wonder if that's a girl or a fat boy
In this day and age, the answer could be simply
"Yes"

>> No.4928476

>>4928328
Every resolution I named is capable of being pushed over VGA from an appropriate GPU. Admittedly, some of the DACs on certain cards may have issues with those requiring higher bandwidth.

The highest base resolution you'll see most GPUs allow for a CRT(assuming it is itself capable of handling it) is 2048x1536, needing a 96khz h frequency and bandwidth of ~285mhz. Essentially nothing out there is actually going to be able to resolve all of that, but it is still able to be fed. 1600x1200/UXGA is very common for somewhat larger PC CRTs(19''+).

The wideboi resolutions are relegated to the FW900 and it's rebadges, with that 2304x1440 res not being a standard, but the highest specifically addressable resolution that the monitors are quote to support. You can technically go higher, especially considering there are a number of 4:3 monitors that are higher spec'd than the FW, but you're really hanging your ass out at that point in regards to what all various pieces will actually support.

Once you reach the point of >>4928390 , it's really coming down to pure screen real estate rather than actually resolving everything being drawn. That point was passed considerably before you hit either that or the above 2304 res.

>>4928421
That doesn't change what I said. It was still a niche market, and one that couldn't support a terribly large number of different sets/manufacturers jumping in on it.
More wide PC CRTs would be great, but I can understand why there aren't many.

>> No.4928489

>>4925542
>>4926696
It was a guy who lives alone, he was very doughy with bitch tits and had a weird look on his face. I didn't want to talk to him more than I needed to. Pretty disappointed it wasn't a chick desperate for a lay.

For $10 though it was still a good find.

>> No.4928498

>>4928476
>it's really coming down to pure screen real estate rather than actually resolving everything being drawn
I have no trouble gaming at 2560x1600 @ 60 hz. I don't know what you are talking about honestly.

There are a few current titles (console ports) that ONLY run at 60hz. None have given me any troubles at all.

Also, running a GTX titan, so resolution is irrelevant.

However, titles that allow for various refresh rates I use 1920x1200 @ 85hz...because 60hz looks terrible on a PC monitor. To date I have NEVER had a 60hz only monitor. Over the years I have had many 20"+ crt monitors. I really like the IBM p75 was one of the best 4:3....also a trinitron. And you are correct, it would run 2048x1536 w/out issue.

>>4928476
>Once you reach the point of >>4928390

I have that EXACT monitor, so I have reached that point.


>>4928476
>The highest base resolution you'll see most GPUs allow for a CRT(assuming it is itself capable of handling it) is 2048x1536

I have had this monitor for over a decade, and have used many GPUs from base model all the way up to professional grade, and not once have I encountered a single GPU that could not provide 2560x1600. Granted I have had perhaps 15 nvidia cards in the last decade, so my experience is only limited to OWNING a FW-900 AND using it daily as my primary display. Most people don't get the opportunity to own such an amazing relic, let alone can comprehend how awesome it is without actually owning one themselves.

>> No.4928519

>>4928498
I'm not saying that the monitor is unusable at that point, only that you exceeding the tube's ability to fully resolve the finest of details past the 1200p point, which is admittedly isn't a concern for most video and gaming content. Only more productivity aimed tasks would be impacted.

And what I mean "reaching that point" is that going for resolutions such as 2560x1600 is more for the game's part in rendering detail than the monitor's ability to resolve it. I'm sure games and the like do look better being rendered at that higher resolution, only you're not gaining any real sharpness from the monitor itself at that point.

>and not once have I encountered a single GPU that could not provide 2560x1600
That isn't what that statement was being directed at, rather one of what if you check the specs of a given GPU, the maximum supported analog resolution you're going to see listed for many of them and the one that tends to get listed as the highest (by default) in the control software for said GPU is going to be 2048x1536. This isn't to say it and many other resolutions aren't capable of being done, only that their support is unofficial, particularly at the high end of that.

A vaguely comparable example would be the ability to get 240p out of a GPU. It's capable of being done by loads of them, especially if you're getting into doing so at 120hz, but the lowest officially supported resolution is going to be 640x480.

>> No.4928571

Has anyone even ever got a good find at a recycling plant? I feel like everything there would be in such bad shape or flat out broken.

>> No.4928583

>>4928519
>in the control software for said GPU is going to be 2048x1536
I have never owned a GPU that was rated for any higher then 2048x1536 (not even my current nvidia titan) via VGA. However, that does not change the fact that 100% of the graphic cards I have used over the last 13 years have worked splendid at 2560x1600....Some do not give adequate frame rates for 3d games. Which is why it is great to have a CRT, because it can simply run at whatever made up resolution that I want, and will have none of the "non-native resolution" issues that LCDs have.

Off the top of my head:

6300 gs
7900 gs
7950 gx2 (Quad sli)
8800 GT (SLI)
GTX 260 (Tri sli)
Gtx 660ti
Gtx 960
Gtx Titan
OS ranges from windows 2k all the way through windows 7


I know that there are some I am forgetting. Not a single one gave me any issues. Some I even did a dual monitor output to my IBM crt before it died. Imagine for a moment, a 4:3 CRT running at 2048x1536 sitting beside a 16:10 crt running at 2560x1600. My desk was custom made to support the hundreds of pounds of pure awesome.

>>4928519
>A vaguely comparable example
It is not vague at all. It is a great example. Sure it is unsupported per the manufacturer. Does that stop anyone from doing it and making it work? My car's owner manual SPECIFICALLY calls for 93 octane gasoline. Does that mean my car will not drive if I use 89, or that the manufacturer will simply not have an opinion on my misuse of my own property?

>>4928571
>Has anyone even ever got a good find at a recycling plant?
It would not be on my list of places to check. I would figure that would be the last stop for broken and unloved hardware.

>> No.4928604

>>4928583
>However, that does not change the fact that 100% of the graphic cards I have used over the last 13 years have worked splendid at 2560x1600
Again, I never said otherwise. The original post was simply stating what most GPUs had listed as their max in marketing, not that they couldn't support resolutions other than this.

If you were to address the sentence previous regarding the DAC, that is more a matter of image quality and would be more of a worry with subpar equipment all around. If you're running this sort of equipment, that really shouldn't be an issue though.

And I say vaguely comparable because it's on the opposite end of the spectrum; How low can something go rather than how high it can go. If anything, it was more in support of your argument of the ability to push non-standard stuff and the hardware be a-ok with it.

>>4928571
A Dell P991 I picked up some months back apparently came from an electronics recycler before it got into my hands. Sadly it develop some fault I haven't had a chance to diagnose, leaving it unusable in it's current state, but before it cropped up, it was honestly one of the nicer PC CRTs I've had the chance to use. Very bright and sharp.

>> No.4929640

So I recall asking this question but never getting an answer for it, maybe you guys could help.

What determines the amount of time taken to switch between resolutions on emulators like RetroArch and GroovyMAME?

For instance, using original hardware is pretty much instant, there's no black screens, nothing. You play something like Chrono Cross and while you notice the resolution switching when you go to the menu it isn't slow to do so. On emulation software like RA and GroovyMAME, it is. However, I also noticed that a Mednafen fork (emu4crt Mednafen) does support this resolution switching, but it is even slower. Is it just a software issue, or maybe the drivers?

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>>4929640
piggy backing off of this post

can anyone redpill me on custom resolutions / hdmi_timings via retropie? I get one standard 240p resolution across the board, it doesn't switch resolutions between cores. I know custom modelines 'on the fly' are possible but I can't figure it out. Would really like for these games to be the correct resolution / aspect ratio :(

>> No.4930276

>>4928489
keks all around. Better luck next time anon.

>> No.4930515
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4930515

Hell yes

>> No.4931106
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4931106

>>4906348
Crt royale on a dlp projector

>> No.4931283

CRT newfag here.

What screen size is best for 240p games? When do the sizes start to become too big and make the picture look worse?

>> No.4931347

>>4931283
smaller crts around 14" are fine for 2d but a bit too small for 3d
27 inches is where they start to become too heavy

>> No.4931427

>>4931283

I think the sweet spot is about a 27. At this point you might have lost some sharpness, but it won't make n64 and up look like shit.

19/20" is pretty good, but it's too small to honestly play much multiplayer or anything.

I'd say if you can find a curved screen 27" with component and s-video, that is one of the best combinations. Honestly brand doesn't matter much.

>> No.4931435
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4931435

I'm about to go pick up this Sharp Linytron on craigslist.
What am I in for?
What does Linytron mean and how does it compare to Trinnytron tech?

>> No.4931475

>>4931435
It means it has a shadow mask tube with an in-line electron gun as opposed to delta configuration. Nothing special.

It's just a run of the mill basic set really.

>> No.4931558

>>4931475
What would be the point of in-line guns when you are not using an aperture grille?
How does it affect the picture quality?

>> No.4931629

>>4931435
Sharp are usually quality sets. Should be great for retro.

>> No.4931929

Anyone else have a G225F, because I need help finding the sharpness options so either I'm retarded or I'm unable to access it

>> No.4932264
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4932264

I went dumpster diving recently and found myself a Sony KV-25F1U. The geometry is far from the worst but the image is cut off at the left a little. I've tried using the service menu to adjust it but it was already as far right as it can go. Is this going to need some sort of physical internal adjustment or am I just fucked and should leave it as it is?

>> No.4932278

Are 20" and smaller sets with component inputs just rare in general or does my area just suck. Nothing but 27"+ 100lbs+ monsters.

>> No.4932291

>>4932264
make the horizontal size bigger and then see if you can center it better.

>> No.4932293

>>4932278
Most 27" CRTs only weigh like 60-80 pounds. If you can't lift that kys

>> No.4932297

>>4932293
Literally all the 27" models around me are 100lbs minimum. I just like smaller sets personally.

>> No.4932312

>>4932291
I can make the image wider, but can't shift it to the right at all since the H position setting is already at 0 and can't go any lower.

>> No.4932339

>>4931106
gross

>> No.4932590
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4932590

Any idea what's happening here? Some TVs and monitors give this weird ghost image when I play NTSC games on my PAL N64. I used the neon64 NES emulator for this example because it's easier to see what I'm talking about this way. It happens with N64 games too. The monitor is PVM-9042QM.

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4932929

>>4915621
Update: Ended up asking around a little more, and managed to find a PVM-1954Q for half the price of the Ikegami.

>> No.4932972
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4932972

Is this motherfucker any good? Its a panasonic quintrix idk goys but i have only tested my ps2 and my sega mastersystem on it, had to go antenna cable with the sega so it looked like shit but idk which cables do i need to make this look nice, i have some rgb scart thingies that i tested with the ps2 bit idk i cant see any diference pls help im noob at this

>> No.4933346

>>4932590
it's your cable. try wiggling it some

>> No.4933363

>>4932929
good deal. The Ikegami is still legendary in its own right, but I think you got the better option there.

>> No.4933368

>>4933346

I tried that and reinserting it, it didn't help. My TV and another monitor (different model) don't have this problem, so I'm sure it's just some that have this compatibility issue. Back in the day when all TVs were tube TVs I remember solving this problem by using RF.

>> No.4933570

>>4931558
easier (cheaper) to manufacture.

>> No.4933623

>>4932297
I've never seen a 27" set that weighed over 100 pounds. Do you even lift?

>> No.4933673

>>4933623
Plenty of 27" trinitrons and older sets do. It's not that unusual at all.

>> No.4933748

>>4933623
My KX-27PS1 weighs over 120lb.

It's just about manageable singlehandedly due to excellent handles but still.

>> No.4933760

>>4933673
And the 24" flat-screen BVMs are 112 pounds.

>> No.4933904

>>4931106
what are your settings and do you bother adjusting the khz with crt emudriver?

>> No.4934193

>>4931558
Guns in a triangle make getting decent convergence a lot harder, often needing electronic dynamic convergence control rather than just some magnet rings and a sensible yoke design.

>> No.4934281

>>4914375
That's cool and all, but I wish they supported that feature on a CRT connected to a secondary monitor. I have to manually switch the primary display before I open RetroArch for it not to fuck up and start switching resolutions on my LCD monitor instead, even though it's set so it shows up in the CRT (monitor index at 2).

Also, on an unrelated note, is it even worth using ATOM-15 if you barely see the BIOS?

>> No.4934468

>>4930276
Still very pleased with the TV for the price. Now to find a decent stand for it.

>> No.4934473

What kinds of CRTs should I look for if I want more ionizing radiation?

>> No.4935849

Is there anything to be done about that wavy effect you get with scrolling 2d games with lower end Trinitrons or am I just stuck with it? VLIN and SCOR basically don't do shit to the effect. Seems like it's just unavoidable.

>> No.4936739

>>4934473
>What kinds of CRTs should I look for if I want more ionizing radiation?
Instead of a just a regular cathode ray tube, you should try looking for a cancer ray tube.
I've never seen one myself but there's some guy on here who talks about them all the time.

>> No.4936742

>>4934473
>>4936739
he should get one of those old x-ray shoe fitting stands

>> No.4936751

>>4935849
all flatscreen tube tvs will do that.
get a curved screen

>> No.4936873

>>4912175
KEEP THEM ALIVE LUI

>> No.4936898

>>4935849
Get a slot mask tube.

>> No.4936904

>>4906348
This is gonna be a weird question but can BNC cables handle 144hz? Everytime I try running at 960x720 or 888x666 at 144hz the screen always looks strange, like if the sharpness was too high, am I doing anything wrong?

>> No.4937201

>>4936904
bnc cables would handle it better than vga if they're both good quality.

>> No.4937203

- CRTs are no longer produced because they have inferior picture quality versus LCDs
- CRTs emit dangerous levels of X-rays or other forms of radiation
- CRTs always have easily-visible flicker
- CRTs always cause eyestrain
- CRTs always make a high-pitched squealing noise
- CRTs contain lethal amounts of electricity, even when unplugged
- CRTs need calibration more than two to three times a year
- Overall CRT black levels are not superior to LCDs because ambient light ruins CRT black levels
- Analog CRTs have more processing time than digital LCDs due to poor RAMDAC performance
- Afterimages caused by phosphor decay are extremely annoying and are a significant downside of CRTs
- Sending an improper mode (resolution or refresh rate) to a CRT can cause permanent damage
- CRTs cannot have touchscreens
- 4:3 is so bad that nobody should use a non-widescreen CRT
- The Sony GDM-FW900 is the only CRT worth owning
- Curved CRTs have objectively inferior picture quality versus flat CRTs with otherwise equal specifications
- CRTs should not be used because they are heavier and deeper than LCDs
- CRTs have severe reflections because they do not have matte coats
- CRTs can be permanently damaged by nearby magnets
- Analog signals limit a CRT's resolutions and refresh rates and negatively effect picture quality
- Heavy metals are used in CRT glass to reduce radiation

>> No.4937230

>>4937203
>CRTs emit dangerous levels of X-rays or other forms of radiation
>A year's exposure of CRT would result in 1 uSv of exposure
>This is 1/10th of the typical background radiation FYI
>Lowest amount linked to cancer is 100mSv
>This is equal to being exposed to 1000 CRTs for 100 years
>Eating one banana a month for a year is more radioactive than a CRT
>Sleeping next to someone for three weeks is more radioactive than a CRT

>> No.4937253
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>4937203

>> No.4937254

>>4937253
You lost an arrow.
>>4937203

>> No.4937260

>4937254
>he doesn't know

>> No.4937276

I still don't understand this composite sync thing.

I use a 6350HD with a VGA to SCART RGB 15khz cable and connect it to a cheap 14'' TV. Shit seems to work fine with CRT_Emudriver and custom resolutions. How would I know if I can use composite sync (or if I even need it) and I'm not just doing shit wrong? If I enable it I get a very fucky image scrolling diagonally pretty fast, and if I generate modelines with positive hsync/vsync what I get is just vertical scrolling. Is it the cable? The GPU/drivers? The modelines set? My incompetence? Maybe I can't use it and that's that?

>> No.4937291

>>4937276
your cable is already combining sync since scart uses c-sync. so by enabling c-sync you're feeding c-sync to a cable that expects h-sync and v-sync to be able to combine them.

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4937292

>>4937203
kys.

>> No.4937298

>>4937260
I do :-)

>> No.4937319

>>4937291
Oh. Well damn, I'm pretty dumb. I don't know why I associated the whole "these modelines are using negative vsync and hsync" to "this isn't using csync". Don't know much about this shit and I just spotted that feature, thankfully my TV didn't blow up yet.

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4937362

How do I make proper pictures of a CRT?

>> No.4937381

>>4937362
https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/4gvaxe/advice_for_photographing_crts/d2lp22h/

>> No.4937509

>>4937381
Many thanks. Turns out my phone is shit and often just doesn't want to take pictures whenever I get shit right.

>> No.4937642

>>4934281
Main use for ATOM-15 is if you've got a setup where attaching a regular PC monitor for fiddling with BIOS would be annoying/impractical like in an arcade cabinet.

>> No.4937819
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4937819

just picked up my first crt for playing time crisis
Will keep you updated

>> No.4937854

>>4937819
COKE SO WHITE IT STEADY RUNS ITS OWN BUSINESS
AESTHETIC

>> No.4937906

>>4937819
Didn't think we would get anons rolling in range rovers

>> No.4937953

>>4937906
REAL RICH NIGGAS
WE ain't really had any of that OLD MONEY
GOT A WHOLE LOTTA NEW MONEY DOE

>> No.4937957

I swear this is le ultimate 30yo boomer board why don't you faggots just use an led, lcd or plasma tv with your original console?

>> No.4937959

>>4937957
28 year old boomer here
My CRT is 1 year older than me

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4937972

sony makes the best lcds

>> No.4938068

>>4937957
Personally because I might as well put something that I have owned for decades to good use, it looks pretty fucking nice and it's not that expensive (at least for me).

>> No.4938095
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4938095

>>4937906
You're quite a car enthousiast to know it's a landrover from a single pic.

Here's my first ever old games setup. Just need to buy the silver dualshock

>> No.4938097

>>4938095
>famicom
just get an american NES with decently lengthed cords

>> No.4938110

>>4938068

that's okay. I had that one tube from my childhood until it broke down in like 2008 too for my nes but getting one of these garage sale things for like 500 bucks online as some people in this thread is ridiculous.

>> No.4938115

>>4938095
How's that namco stick? I always wondered.

>> No.4938136

>>4938110
I wouldn't waste so much money for that. I don't even have that many original consoles other than the SNES, a dreamcast without the top case (a little accident there) and a Wii. I bought a 10€ GPU and a 15€ VGA to SCART RGB cable, using a few emulators and that's it.

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4938212

>>4938115
Really good quality, bought it for 15€ 5 years ago, top-tier to play soul blade. I even have a ps1->usb adapter and it works really well with mame, good feelings.
>>4938097
It's a chink knockoff, the controllers are decently lenghted and detachable.

>> No.4938217

>>4938212
>15€
Damn nice. I like how it looks, someday I will probably grab that shit.

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4938303

Anyone in the NYC/NJ area interested in picking up a PVM 1340 for $100? Has 2 composite lines, SVideo, and RGB. Pick up only.

>> No.4938342

>>4932264
Don't worry about it too much, nothing in the red areas is considered essential. In normal gameplay you won't notice it at all.

Also good score, post a better picture of the set if you can