PS1=The Ghost of Nintendo's Anti RPG Policy Getting Its Revenge?

[Anonymous No.4895101]

Considering how much the JRPG genre contributed to SONY's success, and how little Nintendo did to cultivate the genre during the NES and SNES era (and especially Nintendo's own CEO having negative opinions on RPGs at the time), was the N64's lack of JRPGs truly to blame on cartridges?

Let's remove the cartridge from the equation, because the SNES proved you can make great JRPGs with cartridges. Is it more likely that companies just didn't want to put up with Nintendo's bullshit because they knew what the company was like when it came to RPGs?

Imagine creating a JRPG for the N64 and getting absolutely NO coverage from Nintendo. That would be absolutely dire. I think more companies would have tried putting out JRPGs (or even stripped down PS1 ports) on the N64 if they knew they had Nintendo in their corner.

[Anonymous No.4895108]

>>4895101
Based Yamauchi knew RPGs are for beta fags. The N64 is for Chads.

[Anonymous No.4895110]

There wasn't an "anti-RPG policy." That's just retarded. Take that shit to reddit or something. RPG creators wanted a format which would help them explore more grandiose story telling and make their games feel more cinematic. CD offered it more inexpensively and allowed more opportunities to do more experimental things. Cartridges didn't.

[Anonymous No.4895114]

Tinfoil hat much?

[Anonymous No.4895116]

It's not that they were anti-RPG, it's that Square games made after the SNES era were incredibly gay

[Anonymous No.4895119]

>>4895101
>Considering how much the JRPG genre contributed to SONY's success
This is merely a persistent myth. There were no "blockbuster level success" JRPGs on the PS1 other than the three Final Fantasy games. And those sold to normies mostly on the back of flashy cinematics.

The real there were barely any JRPGs on N64 is easy. No flashy cinematics = no sales to justify the cartridge format and royalty fees. If you're gonna make a niche game with SNES style graphics, you may as release it on the PS1 where the costs were low.

[Anonymous No.4895135]

>>4895101
>Let's remove the cartridge from the equation, because the SNES proved you can make great JRPGs with cartridges.
Not by the fifth gen you couldn't, the hit PS1 JRPGs were all ~100MB of game and 2GB+ of FMV

[Anonymous No.4895142]

>>4895101
problem with n64 was that it wasn't as easy to do decent 3d or 2d like people were able to do with ps1/ps2 (without building custom microcode for the n64's graphics processor). n64 devs had their hands tied, especially when nintendo REFUSED to share their custom microcode to make developers lives easier. nintendo made it harder for everyone except themselves. another prime factor is licensing costs. it was far cheaper to develop for sony and far better tools were provided to their developers. these games need a lot of room, and n64s limiting cart sizes made such game development on n64 totally unappealing. sony had plenty of storage space to play with.

[Anonymous No.4895443]

we've already had this thread a summer ago

[Anonymous No.4895519]

>>/vr/thread/S4601884#p4605298
http://4chanarchives.com/board/v/thread/339115329
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/323686782/

[Anonymous No.4895536]

>>4895142
>especially when nintendo REFUSED to share their custom microcode to make developers lives easier.

What is that?

[Anonymous No.4895559]

>>4895443
>a board about a set period of time rehashes old content
gee, whoda thunk it

[Anonymous No.4895743]

>>4895101
How often will you post this same exact fucking thread?

[Anonymous No.4895917]

>reposted bait threads from a year ago
>TOTALLY NOT /Overrated Games General/, just using the exact same image that always gets used for that spam
>IF EMULATION OF OLD GAMES ON NEW CONSOLES IS ALLOWED THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T HAVE A THREAD JUST ABOUT EMULATING ON A NEW CONSOLE EVEN IF IT CAN'T DO SO
>this game gives me feels, enjoy my blogpost!
>I'm a lazy cunt, spoonfeed me!

Remember back when the board wasn't full of meme-spewing /v/irgins who cared more about spamming memes and playing rules-lawyer to try and change the board rules? Remember how we had non-stop threads about lesser known and obscure games that fall off the board now? Remember how we had non-stop B/S/T and Gauntlet threads?

Gee, it's almost like the meme-spewing board-culture faggots ruin everything they touch.

[Anonymous No.4895940]

>>4895101
>The Ghost of Nintendo's Anti RPG Policy

Nintendo never had an anti-RPG policy - SCEA actually did for a time and wanted to focus on action and racing games and 3d graphics.

Beyond the Beyond was the first roleplaying game released stateside for the psx a full year offer the console's NA release and the game's japanese release. The fact that American execs wanted to focus on 3d graphics eventually led to ff7s release on the playstation (instead of the n64 which it was first developed on)because it was so graphically impressive (Square for their part obviously resented Nintendo over their short sighted and expensive cartridge based strategy). Nintendo never had an anti-rpg policy - developers just hated them as their policies were restrictive and their QA was intense.

[Anonymous No.4895961]

>>4895917
>Gee, it's almost like the meme-spewing board-culture faggots ruin everything they touch.

they do ruin it. but there's been an influx lately to these boards by retards from other sites thinking it's funny to 'raid' this site, such as the femanon cancer that went to /v/ to try and shutdown any thread talking about the sheer incompetence of jessica price that got her fired.

sooner we get fucking IDs on all these boards, the better. the same fagging, shitposting and people talking to themselves will disappear. this bullshit needs to stop and the shilling faggots need to be exposed.

[Anonymous No.4895967]

>>4895961
>sooner we get fucking IDs on all these boards, the better.
Dedicated shitposters use VPN.
The situation is bad, but when you compare /vr/ to other boards, it's not that bad.
/vr/ doesn't have hordes of shitposters like /v/, /tv/, /mu, etc, just a small number of (very dedicated) shitposters.

[Anonymous No.4895992]

>this desperate logic to justify n64's failure

It's an objectively terrible console. PS1 was BETTER, that's why it WON.

[Anonymous No.4896043]

>>4895992
honestly 5th gen only had 7 good games total.
3 were in saturn, 3 on n64, and 1 on ps.

[Anonymous No.4896054]

The only person who had an Anti-RPG policy was Bernie Stolar. Who actually started out in charge of Playstation. Which makes me wonder what would've happened to the popularity of JRPGs in the west if he had stayed there instead of jumping ship to SEGA and had blocked Final Fantasy VII from being released.

[Anonymous No.4896124]

>>4895101
nintendo was right - those mute metrosexual penis puffers square unleashed upon the public lead to the downfall of japan

[Anonymous No.4896143]

>>4895917
>Remember back when the board wasn't full of meme-spewing /v/irgins who cared more about spamming memes and playing rules-lawyer to try and change the board rules?
I don't remember that at all and I've been here since the beginning. You know what I do remember?

>not retro
>dreamcast is 5.5 gen, not 6th gen
>GBA is retro it's a portable SNES
>there was a fifa game released for PS2 in 2012, so therefore PS2 will never be retro

[Anonymous No.4896185]

>>4895110
aka "FMV"
If your game needs animated cutscenes to tell its story, it's not good.

[Anonymous No.4896228]

You made this thread already.

[Anonymous No.4896342]

>>4896185

Huh? Vs text?

Jrpgs have always been mostly interactive stories with some grindy shit. Makes total sense they would do fmv cutscenes to make it more like a movie.

Nothing wrong with that. Nintendo had just said fuck you to third parties since the snes. Everyone went to the competition and if it wasn't for the massive success of the Wii Nintendo would be like Sega.

[Anonymous No.4896408]

>>4896043
w-what were they?

[Anonymous No.4896957]

>>4896124
>lead to the downfall of japan

In what way?

[Anonymous No.4896959]

>>4896342
the intro of FF7 then the scene where u bomb the reactor was FUCKING LIT

[Anonymous No.4897146]

>>4896342
>if it wasn't for the massive success of the Wii Nintendo would be like Sega.


I know this is way out the retro time period to discuss but a lot of people forget how close Nintendo was to dropping out then. They're still close to the edge, 2bh

[Anonymous No.4897320]

>>4897146
Not Nintendo fan but couldn’t they rely on handhelds?

[Anonymous No.4898402]

>>4897146

Nah Nintendo is doing fine. I doubt they could survive selling hardware at a loss but they seem to sell a reasonable number of units before they roll out the next thing.

>>4897320

For a bit sure, but realistically handhelds are on their way out in favour of phones. Despite the long term success the original ds was pretty fucking unappeling combined with the really weird ad campaign they ran.

Nintendo really lucked out back then on the Wii.

[Anonymous No.4898478]

JRPG developers, back at the snes era, were fond of being able to tell a long story within their games.

Imagine being a dev at that time and suddenly being able to make games with 100's of hours of content, bosses, items, plus better animation, orchestral music and cutscenes.

Who would give all that up for, quite literally, less content in all those fields?

[Anonymous No.4898523]

If N64 had a Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and a Fire Emblem it'd be hailed as the best console ever made

[Anonymous No.4898841]

>>4895992
¿What did exactly won?
Ps1 was just sales and tons of 7/10.
It wasnt groundbreaking by any means. It was just a glorified super nintendo rip off with muh rpg movies and arcade ports for the poor.

>>4895101
You already made this thread months ago.

[Anonymous No.4898894]

Imagine if the Nintendo Ultra had CD technology and FFVII, RIP the competition

[Anonymous No.4898983]

>>4898523
>FE
nah, what it needed was a non-cancelled Mother game

[Anonymous No.4901419]

/vr/ is only for CRT and SHMUP threads, every other threads should be pruned

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