/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4891148]

ITT: Why the fuck didn't the U.S. get this? (when retro was current)

[Anonymous No.4891158]

>>4891148
Well a few reasons...
For one, since everyone was over the Playstation, I doubt many would've payed attention to what was happening on the SNES at the time. Inafune made this game as a consolation for those who couldn't play 8 (and by consolation I mean having you dick get punched). Second reason might be another case of being way too punishing. Still, would've preferred it to be on the SNES instead of godawful GBA port.

[Anonymous No.4891170]

People always say "The NES was dead by the time it came out" or "JRPGs weren't popular at the time", but I think it would have been more popular in the US because of its non-fantasy setting

[Anonymous No.4892242]

>>4891158
Weird, I find it one of the easier ones because Bass is so much more maneuverable.

[Anonymous No.4892256]

Most likely because it came too late into the console's cycle

But after two collections and multiple VC platforms including Mega Man games, to still not have the SNES version in an official locaized version, really doesn't make sense to me.

[Anonymous No.4892273]

>>4892256
I was hoping it would come as a Legacy Collection 2 paid DLC. Would certainly sell enough to pay the one intern for the couple of weeks needed to make it.

[Anonymous No.4893225]

I'm more surprised as to why it wasn't included in any collection or legacy thingy

[Anonymous No.4893236]

GBA

[Anonymous No.4893254]

>>4891148
> (when retro was current)
what

[Anonymous No.4893265]

>>4893254
the game got an international gba release, so op's asking why didn't usa get the snes version back when it was a new game

[Anonymous No.4894685]

>>4891158
but anon, the gba port is the best version.

[Anonymous No.4894769]

>>4894685
Smaller screen and bad audio quality. It's a compromise. The only thing in its favor is being portable but that's beside the point considering you should now be able to play the original version on 3DS, Switch, whatever, if it was included in the collections.

[Anonymous No.4894930]

>>4894685
With screen crunch? Fuck that. I don't care if it's portable, I'm not playing an already difficult game with screen crunch active, that's the same problem I had with the 8-bit Sonic 2 GG port.

[Anonymous No.4895038]

>>4891148
Because it came way too late into the SFC's life and so Capcom decided to not take the risk to release it outside of japan. Plus, the cart itself was quite expensive to make, which made it riskier to release outside of the local market.

[Anonymous No.4895246]

>>4894769
But some songs sound better on GBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSeM76cleUA

[Anonymous No.4895254]

>>4895246
this

[Anonymous No.4895264]

>>4891170
The game was going to be launched in 1991, coinciding with the release of the SNES. It wasn't until 1992 and onwards that the NES would officially die, as most NES releases saw an abrupt decline in effort put into them.

[Anonymous No.4895281]

Because it's a terrible game and would have killed the Mega Man franchise sooner.

[Anonymous No.4895315]

>>4891158
Maybe if the game was also released on the PS!, and within the United states, Then the game would've sold decently

[Anonymous No.4895389]

>>4895281
What did "kill" Mega Man, really?

[Anonymous No.4895541]

>>4895281
It's one of the better games in the classic series

[Anonymous No.4895556]

>>4895264
iirc it was copyrighted 1990 on the NoA prototype, which by then the NES was still kicking

[Anonymous No.4895754]

>>4895389
Meg Man 8/ Mega Man X 6.

[Anonymous No.4895769]

>>4891148
I think there is a Japanese to English patch for the rom. Or you can just play the GBA version.

[Anonymous No.4895796]

Because it would've been the last SNES game released in the US. Only game that came out in the US later than the Japanese release was a shitty Frogger port.

[Anonymous No.4896065]

>>4895754
Why those two, and how did they "kill" it? Especially since there were still Mega Man games released consistently after them?

[Anonymous No.4896071]

>>4896065
Gap between 8 and 9 was over a decade.

[Anonymous No.4896116]

>>4895246
Completely agreed. Also, the portability is fantastic for exploring the levels and getting all the CDs in short bursts.

[Anonymous No.4896125]

>>4895389
The PS2 era killed it. 2D was still coveted in the PS1 gen because the polygons on 3D games looked kinda bad and by this point 2D was almost perfected (SotN, Capcom VS, etc.). In the PS2 gen 3D had matured enough that the games now looked fantastic and also the "cinematic" meme was in full force.

[Anonymous No.4896126]

>>4895389
the autistic storyline that the X and Zero series had?

There's just way too many megaman games in general

[Anonymous No.4896138]

>>4896126
Agreed. Even stuff like Battle Network, which definitely has a beginning and end, got dragged on for three extra games that didn't need to exist AND they managed to make shitty spin-offs with no value whatsoever (like Battle Chip Challenge). Not to mention the awful anime.

The Zero subseries did manage to be properly self-contained, but it was a little too edgy and did have an autistic storyline that took itself way too seriously.

>>4894930
There's like two parts that suffer because of the screen crunch in the game, it's not that big a deal.

[Anonymous No.4896154]

>>4895389
Strike 1: Powered Up and Maverick Hunter X not selling well. There were semi-consistent releases up to this point, and suddendly stopped after this full force relaunch failed.

Nailing in the coffin: Inafune's animosity towards Capcom in his final years, leading to all the Mega Man projects he was leading getting cancelled (Legends 3, Universe. Online was also licensed during this time).

Aftermath: as they clearly said in the MM11 reveal videos, no one inside Capcom dared to take his role and his brand, specially with the animosity he created before leaving. Some loyalist probably didn't want to compete with MN9 either.

Current revival: Digital Eclypse pitching the first Legacy Collection as a cheap cash in, among other cheap cash ins; Capcom saying "sure why not"; and it selling waaay more than anyone expected, leading to Collection part 2, MMX Collections and MM11 in short succession.

Future: neither will sell as whatever crazy projection they made after Legacy 1's success, and will once again pale next to RE and MonHun. Expect another 10 year drought after this

[Anonymous No.4896401]

>>4896126
>>4896138
Having too many games is a good point, as is the X series beyond the first few having a questionable plot at best. I'm not sure I get the edginess or autisticness of the Zero series though, nor how it takes itself too seriously. I am heavily biased though, so that's probably why.

>>4896125
>>4896154
These are also good points.

[Anonymous No.4896503]

>>4896401
>I'm not sure I get the edginess or autisticness of the Zero series though, nor how it takes itself too seriously.
I mean, the Zero series opens with robot blood and Holocaust parallels and doesn't let go of trying to be edgy until it ends, and cyberelves and the Elf War retcons are pure autism both gameplay-wise and story-wise.

[Anonymous No.4896523]

>>4896503
>until it ends
Z1 specifically or all of them? Either way, considering that kind of stuff edgy is understandable, but I still don't get the autism bit. Unless you just mean that it's shit, then that's also understandable.

[Anonymous No.4896529]

>>4896523
Z1 specifically does end with Megaman turning into a Hitler Sephirot, but the rest of the series is no different either. The Dark Elf stuff was bit lighter than the Z1 plot, but after that Omega is all about clone angst and Weil is just an edgy politically oriented Wily. It permeates the entire series.

By "autism" I mean how the cyberelves were implemented. They aren't shit per se, but in order to have a high ranking in Z1 you have to play the game as a collecathon for shit you can never use unless you replay it a couple times, for example. It's the worst kind of collecting as there IS a benefit to it but the ranking system forces you to not use it.

Plus the "story" about the elves is totally bananas and really has no place in what we saw in all X games, it's just totally off. Weil too. I can maaaybe buy the story of the first game but everything else is just a weird series of retcons to justify the tone shift.

[Anonymous No.4896543]

>>4896529
>>4896523
>>4896529
At least Zero 3 had Satellite Elves to use.

[Anonymous No.4896552]

>>4896529
I will admit that arguing story stuff isn't my forte and that this kind of thing is probably best done somewhere like /m/, but I think it seeming out of place may have to do with all the leeway Inti was given with the series and them just doing what they felt like doing. Thank you for expounding on your opinions by the way, it's always good to have a different perspective on things.

[Anonymous No.4896605]

>>4891148
>selling a snes game 4 years into the playstation's lifespan
good luck

[Anonymous No.4896610]

>>4896605
what if i told you that you could port games to other systems

[Anonymous No.4896620]

>>4896610
And yet...

No one cares about that GBA port

[Anonymous No.4896792]

>>4896552
>all the leeway Inti was given with the series and them just doing what they felt like doing
It's not really an excuse because they weren't just making their own series, they were making a sequel to X (which in itself was an "edgier" sequel to the classic series) and they made one where everything's grimdark and it all revolves around things that were never mentioned before and nothing makes any sense. It's a lousy sequel both in story and tone.

If they had created something a la Battle Network, which was its own self-contained thing, it wouldn't really matter. Not that it really does because who cares about Megaman's story all that much, it's the tone that is really grating. As a side note, MMBN managed to pay homage to the classic series + X in its own way, which Inti did not do in Zero, AND the one shitty MMBN game we got on the states was made by Inti.