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NEW DOOM THREAD
ALSO SAY HELLO TO CACOMACK

=====
Please READ this FAQ before posting, some stuff here is very important!
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3
=====
Doom setup tutorial for newfags:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QyGyUmwh8
PRO DOOM STRATS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

Discuss wads, stories, projects, servers, ask for recommendations, suggest ideas, etc; don't be shy, we're here to help!

We have many projects going, and if you want to share your maps or join in whatever thing you may want feel free to do it.

Remember, to join the /vr/ servers, you should get Zandronum
http://zandronum.com/download
Standard passwords for /vr/ servers: vidya, vidyagaems, videojuegos
If these do not work, ctrl+f the server name.

We have an IRC channel too

irc.zandronum.com #vr
password: vrtroopers

For singleplayer, use GZDoom SVN builds. vid_renderer can switch between software and OpenGL so you don't have to install zdoom as well.
http://svn.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

This is a begginer's pack someone kindly put up for everyone
IWAD Pack (40 MB) (Contains Doom/Doom2/Plutonia/TNT/Strife/HeXen/Heretic/etc)
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdl2pbv0vfv0b6n
Doom Pack (200 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwhkju5l5d8mo9v
MEGA PACK (1 GB) (w/mirrors)
http://filewinds.com/ka0r1kpttoow/DOOM_Megapack.zip.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!Q5JD1QyB!UbMB9lwxtTsHFJW5FNU0emKXvqEpptZPKs_kVB8P_jc
http://www.mediafire.com/?a01dhq1jk7i3p

Let's get Dooming!

>> No.488742

first for the HELL of it

>> No.488764
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>> No.488775
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>mfw renamed cacodemon mascot

>> No.488779

http://poll.pollcode.com/h2kju
NEW POLL.

>> No.488780
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488780

So what if there was a wad that replaced all art assets (characters, enemies, items, etc) with Doombro-styled ones instead?

>> No.488785
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488785

>making a map
>picking out textures

This is way harder than I thought it would be....

With more detailed environments you want more textures to choose from.

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>>488742

>> No.488794
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488794

Oooh, that's gotta hurt.

>> No.488795

>>488775
>homestuck
how about no

>> No.488796

>>488780
That would be amazing.
BUT FOR NOW, WE HAVE BLOOD
LOTS OF BLOOD
>>488785
cc4tex.wad

>> No.488801
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>>488775
>mfw I've never seen Hissy mentioned before so why did we bother with this shit

>> No.488802

>>488794
Server fucking when?

>> No.488813

>>488802
Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4v1qnm1i14q6v8k

>> No.488805
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488805

TELL US

>mapping tips
>how you do it
>how you come up with ideas
>anything else relevant

This thread can stay for a day or 2 so dont think as the thread goes on your post will go unread!

>> No.488806
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488806

>>488785
I like to take photos of walls and crap to get nice textures. Scaling them down actually doesn't look half bad in the doom engine.
Case and point: A tile floor.

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>>488802
>>488813
I'm not the guy that made that, this is my own miniature doom that I probably started earlier

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>>488796
Already got it but thanks, they're alright.
I like the ''Dusk's Texture Pack" on Realm667 as well, there are some really good edits in there too.

>> No.488839
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488839

Free-look is acceptable because it makes Doom more difficult.
Jumping makes the game too easy.
Only autists care.
Both are great in multi-player though.

What's /vr/'s preferred sound synth?
OPL, GUS, Timidity/SF2, MS Wavetable?

>> No.488842

>>488806
It's case in point nigger.
Also, my steam since doctoramazing asked for it
steamcommunity.com/id/Marrub/

>> No.488848

>>488842
Why do people put parts of their urls in spoilers?

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>>488856
>>488857
Oh ok, makes sense.

>> No.488856

>>488848
To avoid the spam detector from throwing a fit, I'd guess.

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>>488848
It detects it as spam otherwise.
sage for offtopic

>> No.488878

>>488839
>Free-look is acceptable because it makes Doom more difficult.

>able to hit switches you weren't allowed too
>hard

>> No.488867

V3 of the Doom images folder:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bc9p0na6i9399qg

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>>488839
>Free-look is acceptable because it makes Doom more difficult.
>Jumping makes the game too easy.
Only autists care.

That's what I was trying to say.
The only place where freelook clearly makes it much easier from a gameplay point is the icon of sin and maybe the cyberdemon because fighting him with just a keyboard in 98' was tough.

>> No.488871

>>488805
Too bad I am new at it, I wish I had tips of my own.

Right now I just made a senario and what areas you'd go through level by level. That helps me think of what could be in the areas, after that I think of what could be part of that theme. When it comes to making the map I have found myself getting slightly wilder and wilder, or at least I think so.

I really don't plan anything out, I just make section by section at a time, and think of what would be neat to have to that section of the map in hopes that each part would at least be somewhat memorable through a small skirmish that is triggered or how the room looks aesthetically (or to the best of my current ability with it).

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>>488842
No it's not you shit.
You're presenting a case, and also the point of your argument.
AKA Case and point.

Also, here it is in-game.

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>>488764
that looks fucking great, excellent composition

>> No.488898

>>488878
But that's assuming you do that.

I use freelook, but I don't sequence break with it.

I will say that freelook does allow you to get shots off in some cases that auto-aim would not have allowed, like just barely looking over a ledge and shooting straight down.

I think the monster can still retaliate, however.

>> No.488890

>>488867
Nice.

>> No.488904

>>488880
>No it's not you shit.
>You're presenting a case, and also the point of your argument.
>AKA Case and point.
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3067

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488917

Any servers besides survival and shotgun frenzy or something

>> No.488910
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>>488878
it makes the game easier from an accessibility point of view, after years of playing quake 3 arena i like to mouselook

besides, mouselook *was* around in the 90's

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>>488801
>not knowing who Hissy is

>> No.488926

>>488910
>mouselook *was* around in the 90's
This.
The only reason people didn't use mouselook is that most people didn't have mice.

>> No.488929

>>488880
>Case and point.
>tripfags in charge of speaking English
filtered

>> No.488920

>>488898
>I use freelook, but I don't sequence break with it.

Same, if I know it's not what the map intended I dont do it. Though I have used jump to move through areas I've already cleared to save time.

>> No.488931

>>488910
>besides, mouselook *was* around in the 90's
Mouselook was not around in the original Doom engine.

>> No.488932

>>488910
I think that it is more fun using keyboard controls

Or if you're crazy play it with a trackball with mouse mode

>> No.488941

>>488931
mouselook was
freelook wasn't

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488935

don't tell me you're bored of the same people kicking your shit in while being gased!

server: /vr/tual bois solve a murder mystery
ip: 108.61.83.66:15044
pass: vidya

running WDI

>> No.488943

>>488912
No, no, I knew Hissy, but I never really saw Hissy mentioned in these threads. I just thought it was pointless to make a new mascot/rename the old one.

>> No.488945
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>>488935
Yes, just what I needed

>> No.488946

>>488941
Sorry, I call vertical aiming "mouselook" because of the Quake console command for it, +mlook.

Carry on.

>> No.488948

>>488931
Uh, it was dude.

>> No.488951

>>488948
Horizontal only.

>> No.488954

>>488931
yes, it was

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Zedek is pretty damn sexy

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>> No.488962

>>488904
>the pronunciation of the two phrases is essentially identical in normal American speech
Thanks.

>> No.488975

>>488962
>pronunciation
Try not to be so illiterate.

>> No.488969

>>488954
See:
>>488951

>> No.488983

>>488943
Well, when we were playing Cyberrunner the other day, we kept worshiping Hissy when we found him.

>> No.488984

>>488242
Orangestar !l87ciV3Dhk
>Are we sure he/she's not Hissy?
>http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Hissy

>>488262
Hardmode !J8nI9/58sE
>Lets be hipster and pretend its not.

>> No.488989

>>488969
see: doom games that came out then

I've got it on my old macintosh and I assure you it had mouselook.
Tell us what version you are using.
I've got a build of final doom as well.

>> No.488990

>>488986
Doom95 officially supported 640x480.

>> No.488986

lel, whats next, resolution over 320x200 considered cheating?

>> No.488987

>>488962
Many words and phrases share pronunciation but mean completely different things. I'm sure you wouldn't want to mix up other words. So now that you know the correct way to pronounce it, do it right next time.

>> No.488998

I am playing the '1024' wad using the brutal doom enhancement

I have never had this much fun playing doom (except the first time I ran into the cyberdemon nearly 20 years ago!)

I owe you guys!!!! <3

>> No.488996

>>488986
It's fucks like you who shit up these threads

>> No.488997

>>488962
Your getting kind a mad, bro. Theirs something wrong with U.

>> No.489006

>>488983
Haven't played Cyberrunner yet. In fact I rarely play on /vr/ servers; I get my ass kicked by FUCKING ERIC on those deathmatches
>>488984
Okayyy, I'll just sit back and watch this shiny new mascot fade into obscurity

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>>488935
>>488935
>>488935
>>488935
>>488935
Stop arguing, losers, let's play

>> No.489010

>>488989
The Doom games published by ID Software did not support looking up and down using the mouse or any other method.

I have played every DOS version from 1.0 onwards, right up to 1.9 Ultimate.

>> No.489014

>>488990
>>488986
probably, actually say that to purists

do they play in 320x200 as well?
fuckheads

>> No.489023

>>489014
I play in 640x400 because it's the lowest resolution my monitor supports. Also, proper 70hz retrace.

>> No.489025

>>489014
Someone seems to be a little angry

>> No.489021

>>488935
Server location?

>> No.489027

>>488935
No Doomseeker?

>> No.489028
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489028

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS MOTHERFUCKING SHITPOSTING IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING THREAD

EVERYBODY STRAP IN
I'M ABOUT TO TEAR SOME FUCKING GUTS

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>>489010
>I have played every DOS version from 1.0 onwards, right up to 1.9 Ultimate.

Well bully for you.
Do you play in a tiny resolution as well?

>> No.489046

Yes, let's senselessly argue about shit that doesn't matter when we could just be RIPPING and TEARING GUTS!
It's like we're becoming /v/

>> No.489047

>>489029
He's bringing up potential differences between patch levels.

I grabbed Doom as soon as it hit my local board. I stayed up with the patches right through the last one. It never supported any form of vertical look.

>> No.489034

>>488984
>>488829

>> No.489036

>>489025
tomorrow i'll be calm
purists will still be morons

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>>489021

New York

>> No.489050

>>489036
>>489029

You fags are worse than fucking /pol/

>> No.489065

>>489037
>not wearing the mask with the fedora with the Naruto band around the top of the fedora

>> No.489073
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489073

>purists

You know dudebro yoloswag retards look at all of us.....*ALL* of us as the same guys, right?
The least purists can do is learn to agree to disagree and realize they wont like every doom level.

And no, dont walk away from it with the passive aggressive remark of "oh ok, I *gueessss* if you want to be wrong thats ok" like a retard teenage sister.

>> No.489087

>>489047
mine did

>> No.489092

>>489037
I'll probably have like 300 ping or some shit

Thank you anyway though

>> No.489096

>>489087
Who published it? What medium, and what date?

>> No.489104

Added this to the DON'T FUCKIN RESPOND TO THIS SHIT
* Freelook/jumping/highres is for pussies! Stop using that shit you corrupt impure niggerfaggots!
due to the fact that we just had a huge argument for 2 hours about shit that doesn't even matter

>> No.489128

MODS PLEASE DELETE THIS SHITTY THREAD.

>> No.489131

>>489104
One person said that shit and now 60 niggers are yelling about "PURISTS!!!!@"

>> No.489143

>>489134
Fuck off retard.

>> No.489134

>>489128
MODS PLEASE BAN THIS SHITTY USER.

>> No.489150

Oh god this thread.

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>>489096
GT interactive on the mac, got doom 2 in 99.
I was able to look awkwardly look around with the mouse.

This entire discussion is so pointless.

>> No.489148

>>489134
MODS BAN THIS USER SHITTY PLEASE

>> No.489149

>>489087
I'm very interested in hearing more about this, then. It would be the first I've heard of an official Doom port (outside of Doom64, I think) that supports vertical look.

Or you're just "that kid", in which case kindly fuck off.

>> No.489158

>>489104
>doom purists type like retards and get called out on it
>lose arguments
>"oh fuck off guys it doesnt matter! it doesnt matter!"

ok.jpg

>> No.489162

>>489047
Didn't Heretic/Hexen have vertical look?

>> No.489164

>>489148
BAN THIS MODS USER PLEASE SHITTY

>> No.489165

>>489162
yes, but dont let him know that

>> No.489170

>>489162
Those are not Doom.

>> No.489180

>>489170
They're games running on the same engine with nearly identical gameplay.

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489183

>>489147
This one?

I can fire it up right now and check.

>> No.489187

>>489170
You just keep going, don't ya?

>> No.489175

This thread is crap.

>CACOMACK
>Homestuck
>case or point
>purists

>> No.489176

>>489158
oh okay pointless arguments now are the entire thread thanks for informing me
guess i cant play doom anymore

>> No.489178

>>489170
it's the doom engine, mastermind

>> No.489195

>>489175
I actually have to agree. This is the worst Doom General I've been in.

>> No.489202

>>489187
I do.

I'm not going to let little kids fuck up Doom threads with misinformation.

>> No.489189

>>489178
>>489180
They're not Doom, though.

No official port of Doom ever supported vertical mouselook.

>> No.489191

>>489176
yeah, sorry mate
if you're not using the keyboard and playing in a tiny resolution and booting off a disk you're not playing doom right

even that nice hud you worked on yesterday, purists hate that too

>> No.489192

>>489175

I think doom generals are starting to run there course.

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>>489183
if you're going to go to the trouble, be my guest

>mfw if it turns out it never did

>> No.489207

>>489191
actually I like going pure sometimes (booting it up from a cd on an actual dos machine keyboard only) but I'd rather play with my ~~fancy hud~~ and stuff, just cause I like it

>> No.489217

>>489175
>>489192
>>489195
I have to agree.
I'm going to drink myself into a depressed stupor because of seeing people I thought were cool are actually worthless shits.

>> No.489212

>>489206
It never did. It supports essentially the same featureset as the original DOS version.

>> No.489214

>>489175
>CACOMACK
its in the OP and thats it.
Clearly its shitting up the thread.

>> No.489229

DoctorAmazing thanks for shitting the thread.

>> No.489223
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>>489195
>>489202
>>489192
Yep, purist retards who are like "YOU ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME RIGHT, FUCK YOU THIS DOESNT MATTER" have ruined it.
Said it a million times, if anything fucks doom it'll be purist fucktards demoralizing everybody.

Dr Amazing, delete the thread and start over.

>> No.489224

>>489104
Who cares let people play the way that they want to play, I personally don't like free-look and jumping but I like high-res, but I don't care how others play.

>> No.489230

>>489223
I don't care how you play Doom.

Don't come in here and spread lies about the featureset of the original game.

>> No.489231

>>489217
oh lighten up, there are bad days
depending on time you can get an entirely different batch of users as well

>> No.489232

>>489224
Read the FAQ, I don't mind if people have a point and are arguing without being total cunts but this entire thread saddens me

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489235

time for dancing marines.

>> No.489241

>>489214
>>489217
Maybe we should just make a new thread and start over on a new slate

>> No.489243

>>489230
Dont come in here and whine that some players like mouselook and make passive aggresive remarks about them not playing the right way.

Then wear your ways of playing doom like retard scout badges. Nobody cares in a good way, nobody.

>> No.489253

>>489241
Sure, but thats only temporary until the "purist" decide to leave.

>> No.489254

>>489243
You're mistaking me for someone else, apparently.

I'm only here talking about what the original ID-published DOOM.EXE engines (and the official Doom95 port by the DirectX team) supported. Those haven't been relevant in over a decade, though. Play however you like.

>> No.489257

>>489241
Yep.

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489258

Well I finally got somewhere with map creation today. Going on little by little, mostly because I have no clue what to put to occupy rooms and such, it is what I have the hardest time with, though creating the room itself and all of those stairs and such is fairly fun.

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489259

it was purists that made the maker of unloved not want to make unloved 2

thanks retards, looking forward to playing whatever it is that you make

purists are like the kid in preschool who does not like the game so he smashes the toy and stomps off

>> No.489260

>>488935
Links to the wads?