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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4860758

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1528/27/1528276019025.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/









>> No.4865284

=== NEWS ===

[06-26] Struggle: Anteresian Legacy RC1 released

[06-26] Guncaster updated to 3.0

[06-24] nuts.wad ported to PSX Doom

[06-24] PSX Doom modification possible, ongoing project to put more IWAD maps back into the game

[06-24] New Arcane Dimensions map: Grendel's Blade

[06-22] Quake's 22nd birthday!

[06-22] BloodGDX co-op play test preview

[06-21] GZDoom 3.4.1 released, fixing bugs

[06-21] Quake2XP receives an update

[06-20] v0.2 of 'Zrift-Chasm' released, a partial GZDoom conversion of Chasm: The Rift

[06-20] LegenDoom 2.1 released, adding 30 weapon effects per tier

[06-18] Hellshots Golf updated, now with seven maps

[06-17] PSX Doom SFX remaster project in the works

[06-17] Cola 3 now with HacX 1.2 support

[06-16] Zombie Jam 2 released for Quake

=== PREVIOUS ===


=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply to this post.

>> No.4865296

>calarts doom

Jesus christ how agitating.

>> No.4865301

I like the demon in the corner
They're such a smile little bud!

>> No.4865302
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>> No.4865305

Is this the worst Doom port?

>> No.4865310
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>> No.4865319

>That cross in the ceiling of Plutonia map 13's first room made of blood and flesh
Shit like this is why i love classic Doom's aesthetic

>> No.4865323
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That's more of a demake than a port. However, this is a full port. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_BsVfrKWiE

>> No.4865324

I don't like the implications of that, I hope they're just gonna pet him, and nothing else.

>> No.4865354

OP no

>> No.4865359
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Not going to lie, I'm sort of running out of unique images to use.

>> No.4865375
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why are you doing this

>> No.4865386

That's not a port. That is "something vaguely doom-themed"

>> No.4865390

now redo all the sprites textures and effects in this style

>> No.4865407
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>> No.4865421

>Calarts STARTAN

>> No.4865427

Time to make some OC then.

>> No.4865452

is PrBoom+ development ded? It's my favorite port, and it would be a shame if it stagnated.
I would throw a few bucks towards the dev(s) if it was possible

>> No.4865458

I'd rather say it is "complete". It is super stable, very well optimized, and there are no more features to add that would not be considered "overdoing it"
The only time I think would warrant an update is when it would stop working on a by-then modern OS.

>> No.4865459
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Hey, /doom/, it's my birthday today. Can you guys recommend any neat gameplay mods? Map-sets too, if you just recommend vanilla gameplay.

>> No.4865460

High Noon Drifter
Final Doomer

>> No.4865461

I know that it's not exactly a MP-focused port, but 4-player splitscreen is always something I wanted in a port. The existing 4-player split screen features in some ports are horribly buggy or outdated

>> No.4865469

That's because there's a grand total of 3.5 people who would use it
nobody has irl friends that play doom these days

>> No.4865473

Am I the only one who think Romero’s two 2016 maps, Phobos Mission Control and Tech Gone Bad are the best maps ever made for Doom?

Circle of Death and The Living End held the previous record of the best Doom maps ever, but Romero was fantastic with his new levels.

>> No.4865475

true. I'm 21, and my friends play
>golf sims
>battle royal stuff

>> No.4865478
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This telefrag, anon, was epic.

>> No.4865483

prboom+ needs portals

>> No.4865484

Portals are not a Boom feature, so prBoom+ does not need them.

>> No.4865489

what are portals?

>> No.4865491

worst op image yet

>> No.4865496

>golf sims
At least they don't play FIFA shit. Golf translates well into a videogame though I prefer Miniature golf myself.

>> No.4865507

The way I see it, Tech Gone Bad is derivative of Mt.Erebus (which was the precursor to Sandy's citymaps), and Phobos Mission Control is derivative of HeXen (monster closets within monster closets, locations generally morphing, etc). Both smell quite a bit of an attempt at revisionism to me, to be quite honest. In any case, they offer, strangely enough, despite aiming to be way bigger and better, way less novelty than their arguable originals did.

>> No.4865514

Also, structurally, both are clusterfucks, but Phobos plays way tighter, hence I like it more.

>> No.4865520



>> No.4865523

MetaDoom sort of works in a way where it proves that Doom is a lot more interesting, because of how it isn't afraid to bring up something obscure and adding it into the game or how it even has that much stuff into it
I also realized that with the gender based mugshots, the mod might have reached almost, if not, everything Kinsie wanted to put in the mod

>> No.4865526

Not him but why do I have such shit performance using Lithium? I can play Guncaster, Psychic, and other stuff just fine but when I load up Lithium it runs like shit.

>> No.4865540

Happy birthday man. Have you played Freedoom? It's good and uses different assets than normal Doom. It has a very surreal style to it and it's fun to play. Your character portrait looks like Bud Bundy from Married With Children though. I definitely recommend giving it a go. I overlooked it at first thinking it would be some shoddy knock off crap but it's really not at all. It's well made.

>> No.4865541

It's only after all this time that I started craving nuDoom multiplayer.

Shit's great!

>> No.4865543
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>Doom 64: Retribution

>> No.4865550
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>Slope builds differently in-editor and in-game

>> No.4865552

>Try Final Doomer+
>BTSXGuy feels horrible to play.

What a shame. He was the only one I was looking forward to playing.

>> No.4865557

use a set of stairs like all regular folk does

>> No.4865558
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>MetaDoom sort of works in a way where it proves that Doom is a lot more interesting, because of how it isn't afraid to bring up something obscure and adding it into the game or how it even has that much stuff into it

>> No.4865559

> stairs
> for golf

>> No.4865565

Stairs are "fuck you" zones that knock the golf ball away.

>> No.4865568

If someone else were to make a mod about mixing every Doom game, i don't think they'd include the holy water pistol or name different versions of the monsters after Doom RPG monsters
Doom also feels like a series that a lot of people look at it at face value, which is why they think how the series go its name is an obscure fact or they forget Doom 64 exists

>> No.4865569

are you gonna mod it so the golf ball is the mother penguin's baby?

>> No.4865570

Any way to disable Tac-HUD while using the Dead Marine mod?

>> No.4865573

I fail to see any similarities between Erebus and Tech. Erebus is indeed the prototype for Sandy’s horrid city levels, but Romero’s map is totally different, the inside areas are more detailed and felt more cinematic, while Erebus or the likes of Suburbs buildings are just random shit to screw you around.

>> No.4865576

Wouldn't call them the best ever but they're pretty damn great. I liked Tech's awesome ending and Mission Control's morphing level geometry gimmick.
>The Living End
I never get why people like this map. Not only is it totally linear, but it has a bunch of stupid platforming / catwalk shit. It's one of the worst Doom 2 maps.

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>> No.4865579

While hilarious I don't think that's possible without editing the mod itself. would be cool if maps could have their own custom golf balls, though! Like a Blood themed map that uses a zombie's head.

>> No.4865580


Lithium uses some kind of alternate compiler for all of its code for C, which GZDoom can't handle very well.

>> No.4865581

Oh, you mean Doom has a lot of varied stuff over the different games and their development, which MetaDoom makes use of. Or something.

>> No.4865583


I'd like to include the ability to edit the player's golf-ball so that people can select something unique for themselves.
The problem is that the ball is kind of spread across multiple actors, the actual ball and the landed-in-place actor that lingers there.
If this was GZDoom, it'd be as simple as overriding the tick property of the actor to read a cvar and change spriteset accordingly. But this is Zandronum-compat, so.

>> No.4865598

Is this picture from High Hell?

>> No.4865601

How does one go about making cutscenes like this?


>> No.4865602

>I fail to see any similarities between Erebus and Tech.
Everything on outside.
>the inside areas are more detailed and felt more cinematic
They don't offer anything Romero's levels (including his Quake ones and Daikatana's godawful ep1, which he heavily tinkered with) haven't already had. What novelty tech has is on the outside, since Romero hasn't actually ever had a similarly styled "open" map before. However, that novelty very much seems to me to have come from outside. There seems to be a reason for that as well. Mt.Erebus is objectively a historically significant map, not only as the citymaps prototype, but as the first open level in Doom, not to mention as the map that featured rocketjump. It did expend mappers' entire mapping "lexicon", so to speak. Quite a bit. And Romero didn't happen to have anything whatsoever to do with it. However, it appeared only in the final version of Doom, shareware one, naturally, didn't have it. Now, John offers us to pretend for a bit as if ep1 actually contained a similarly styled, from the outside, open map, only without anything that made that openness highly interesting gameplay-wise in Mt.Erebus. That just looks kind of iffy to me, to be quite honest, that's all. What made incompatibly more sense in the original got copied as an empty gimmick. And the same goes for phobos/hexen.

>> No.4865607


Lots of ACS.

>> No.4865608

Oh, okay, thanks man. I'll try a different source port to run it on.

>> No.4865612

>Now, John offers us to pretend for a bit as if ep1 actually contained a similarly styled, from the outside, open map, only without anything that made that openness highly interesting gameplay-wise in Mt.Erebus
Oh boy, it's that one anon who always projects motivations that were never there onto level designers

>> No.4865613

Even if I got carried away somewhat with my speculations, that doesn't necessarily devalue the ENTIRETY of my posts above.

>> No.4865614

I think he has a point, even though it isn't necessarily as 'sinister' as he suggest is possible.

Could be that Romero did this subconsciously, maybe.

>> No.4865616

Well that's the main point of your post. There's no criticism of the actual level design, only its alleged motivations. And it's nonsense. Why exactly does making a level in the gameplay style of Erebus but aesthetic of ep. 1 imply any "revisionism"? Level design styles are not limited by visual theme.

>> No.4865628

Shadow Warrior run on GDQ right ow if people are interested

>> No.4865632

You forget the 32X version.
>electron-ic farts

>> No.4865636

Just curious cause I don't think the runner is mentioning it. Are there any glitches or exploits exclusive to the Redux version?

i'm secretly asking how good is General Arcade at porting, and will Full Metal Chaos be a good port?

>> No.4865640
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summer update can soon go up

>> No.4865641

When's the white Cyberdemon in CH?

>> No.4865657

>Portals are not a Boom feature, so prBoom+ does not need them.
neither is video output but people seem to like that

>> No.4865667

The music is ass and it's missing a bunch of levels, but it plays well, with a six button controller you move alright, and the framerate always stays pretty good.

>> No.4865673

I've been looking for some randomizer wads with lots of weapons. I've already played djbmod, alandoguns, insanity doom, AEoD, and garbage like Doomguy's Warzone. I'm fucking addicted to these kinds of wads for some reason. Does anyone know of any more? They don't have to be good, they just need lots of guns and monsters.

>> No.4865678
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there's a cheat to summon black or white monsters on CH?
kinda tired of smash the "new game"

>> No.4865680

MetaDoom is one that was meant to be ballanced, but if you turn off Content Locust, you may get some of its weirder weapons sooner

>> No.4865683

Portals don't fit into Boom format, they require either UDMF, or another separate format, and implementing support of that would be a metric fuckton of work nobody is willing to do. It's one of those "small features" that require hundreds of other "small features" to work.

>> No.4865687

I can't get into metadoom personally. I just find the gameplay really tacked on and none of the weapons feel fun to shoot.

>> No.4865690

eternity has doom-format portals tho
not saying that it should be added to prboom (it has no reason to support anything beyond the standard boom stuff), but you can do it with doom format

>> No.4865698

How many bikinis are in LTG at this point?

>> No.4865715
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Still working on this, prolly gonna record a video by the next weekend

>> No.4865717

what are good wads what force you to manage your ammo? practically every big-name megawad has oodles of ammo lying around, even if you do maps from pistol starts

>> No.4865719
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thank you for brightening up my day

>> No.4865736

>"Ow my fucking arm"

>> No.4865737

Mt Erebus might be historical, but it still looks ugly and gameplay is nonsensical. Tech Gone Bad and most of Romero’s maps felt like true cinematic journeys even with their flaws like the clusterfuck start to Perfect Hatred or the catwalk areas in Living End. They are still memorable and pleasant to look at.

I also think it was a good idea to make an open level for episode 1 to add a different angle for it. What I don’t like is Romero stopped here and didn’t remake the other maps. Honestly if you play through the entire thing the two new maps will stand out like a sore thumb both aesthetically or gameplay wise.

A new Romero episode with these two new maps would be totally awesome.

>> No.4865748

It has same kind of "silent teleporters" boom already has.

>> No.4865757

Are you supposed to be able to jump in Strife? GZDoom has it bound and enabled by default

>> No.4865758

no, actual portals, sector and line, usable with doom format

>> No.4865765

strife supported jumping, but not crouching

>> No.4865767

I thought it was widely agreed on that 3DO Doom was the worst port, with it's only redeeming factor being the music.

>> No.4865791
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Colorful Hell with Universal Gibs is a spectacle.
I also didn't expect to like Cola 3 so much

>> No.4865795
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Geez that hitsound is loud

>> No.4865808
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Makes me wonder,how a Doom show made by CalArts would be.

>> No.4865812
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Imagine a mod where all the enemies are dressed like Satania,that would be hilarious.

>> No.4865816
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What's your favourite Quake 3 model?
Custom ones also count.
Mine are Ranger,Doom,Sorlag and Visor.

Custom ones I like the Xenomorphs,Astartes and the Revenant.

>> No.4865820

ranger, visor, hunter and slash
also orbb i guess

>> No.4865824

Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

>> No.4865826
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>enter area with several perched Arch-Viles
>unload a shitton of ammo to wipe them out so I can safely continue
>touch unseen teleporter lindef and start teleporting around to where they were standing


>> No.4865829

What maps are you playing right now? With what mods?

>> No.4865830
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BFG is an inanimate love interest that is only fired once or twice while the joke is run to the ground by the third episode

>> No.4865831

The adventures of square

>> No.4865834
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>> No.4865836

why do they have mario's voice

>> No.4865840
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I can dig it

>> No.4865842

that's insulting to square

>> No.4865843

nobody puts square in the corner

>> No.4865846

I thought it would be funny. Well, it was for me at least. If it bothers people I can remove it I guess.

>> No.4865851

what if doomguy threw mario off the cliff

>> No.4865862

just pitch shift it it'll be fiiiiiiiiine

>> No.4865876

I picture Square being on the old 90s Kids WB lineup back to back with Earthworm Jim

>> No.4865893

Doom with the Phobos skin was nice.

Also that Quake 4 Gladiator skin.

>> No.4865895

>with both of them holding down Bubsy and giving him nuggies

>> No.4865935

Been playing the first Marathon game for the first time, meaning i've played every game represented in Samsara
Still just at the beginning but i got the machine grenade gun

>> No.4866105
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Doom Marine aka Doom 3 Guy

>> No.4866127

I'm gonna host that dakka server again after I take a shower. anyone in?

>> No.4866132

I mean sure but I hope you have a shower big enough for two people.

>> No.4866162

doomguy will always be my go to for player models

>> No.4866190
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>> No.4866195

nigga das G A Y
anyway the server's up

>server name: [jinotra.in] the ultimate demon clicking simulator
>mods: resurge.wad and dakka
>password: >clip

>> No.4866208

okay seriously what the fuck is wrong with classic doomguy's hair

>> No.4866210

realistic messy hair is hard to do in 3d

>> No.4866219

actually, I just found a bug with respawning; I'll fix that then throw it back up

>> No.4866226

his hair looks like dryer lint

>> No.4866227

it's back up

>> No.4866242
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Why's his ear so fucking tiny
QC's Doomguy head is wrong in general to me anyway

>> No.4866282

Well, that is true, but what bothers me more is that his hair color is too damn bright.

Compare with >>4866242, for example. It should be more brown.

>> No.4866294
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post enemies who are you

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>> No.4866320

Does that really count as an enemy, though?

>> No.4866321

it's less that it's bothering and more that it's not very suitable at all

also it'll be very easy for people to spam by just knocking it off again and again

>> No.4866326
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the bb hood ripoff steals your july presents

>> No.4866329

Guncasters a lot better if you modify the amount of damage you do so you don't clear out a hallway with a single blast from your shotgun

>> No.4866331 [SPOILER] 
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Custom HDoom mods when
HDoom section of R667 when
HeXXXen when

>> No.4866343

body's great but face is awful

>> No.4866345


>> No.4866363

Jesus christ her face just looks like an creepy bald dude

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It can't get worse than this, can it?

>> No.4866402
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I saw these pictures and got inspired to do this.

>> No.4866405

That Korax looks too good. 6/10.

>> No.4866406
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top kek
i nominate this for next op pic

>> No.4866412

> fem!esiarch
i would

>> No.4866416

Why the fuck would you give her a human face?

>> No.4866418

i like it

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>> No.4866443

How accurate is Blood GDX right now?

>> No.4866453
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>> No.4866456

Pretty damn accurate

>> No.4866458

someone post the giant mountain that has a tiny tiny chaingunner hidden in it

>> No.4866461

i like the screenshot of gravity.wad (i think it was) where the chaingunner is literally 3 pixels on the screen

>> No.4866470
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swan fox redrawn by me

>> No.4866478

probably something to do with textures being ported over. his hair isn't that bleached out in the actual game.

>> No.4866481

The tower chaingunners in the second map, right?

>> No.4866482

kill me

>> No.4866485
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The big hell room is the best part of Deus Vult, T/F?

>> No.4866486

thanks for another md5

>> No.4866490


You better capitalize that next time

>> No.4866491
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>interested in participating in the new HUMP
>"No more slots left,we have achieved getting 9 mappers for this project!Due to this project filling up so early i decided that the project will be enlarged if we get more than 4 mappers in the "interested mappers" list (which is highly unlikely) untill 02/07 and if only one mapper emerges untill that time i shall open my slot up for them. (i will still be making a map because i like mapping and because it can act as a replacement map for if a member decides to randomly quit in the middle of the session)"
Well I sure fucking hope they enlargen it. That was extremely fast.

>> No.4866503

Tell the dude you're interested and hope 3 other people decide they want to join as well.

>> No.4866507

Whats your top 3 fps levels. /vr/?
>dark carnival - blood
>pain maze - quake
>in sword - thief : TDP

>> No.4866514

People can just spam the weapon change sound at any time, and it's instant switch.

>> No.4866521

sauce please?

>> No.4866525

They're gonna milk him for some FIREBLU

>> No.4866535

I enjoy Quake more than Doom.

>> No.4866540

Why not use one of those screenshots of "lowpoly doom mod" by Vasyan?
The thread title could be "THE WAY DOOM MEANT TO BE PLAYED"

>> No.4866541

how about no?

>> No.4866542

That's the consensus here, since Quake is a lot more advanced, with much better level design, enemies, weapons, mechanics and less limitations.

>> No.4866543

>That's the consensus here
oh really? how many people here have claimed it that you feel it's the average opinion?

>> No.4866546

I think you summon specific colored enemies by just typing the color with the usual monster summon name, like:
> summon bluecacodemon
or something like that.

>> No.4866547

Why must Lore armors be so hard to unlock

>> No.4866548

Don't forget better soundtrack, sound design, story, atmosphere, and aesthetic.

>> No.4866551

is someone still making that Keen conversion?

>> No.4866556
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>not HQuake
i wanna see sexy low poly horrorterrors

>> No.4866557

that's why doom 2016 > quake as well

>> No.4866558


And that's a LocalAmbientSound, so nobody else can hear it.

>> No.4866559

is the mouse look settings horrid to anyone else? no matter how i change them up they still feel too uneven and shitty

>> No.4866563

>That's the consensus here
not really

>> No.4866564

Hey, this thread uses the "CalArts Doom" as an OP pic
It's already pretty low.
Come on, it'll be ironic.

>> No.4866567

Two wrongs don't make a right.

>> No.4866570

>That's the consensus here
No lol

You don't need to bait like that we can discuss why we prefer one over the other without that kind of prompt

>> No.4866572

What tells you that it's a LocalAmbientSound?

>> No.4866575
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How come nobody followed "Scythe 3 & Knuckles" with "Scythe CD" or "Scythe Adventure DX: Director's Cut"?

>> No.4866578

It's here.


>> No.4866585
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Fuck yeah

>> No.4866590

Mario, Castlevania, Mario again...
I wonder what game franchise is he gonna Doomify next?
If he is going to make more mods that is
Maybe Megaman? Kirby?
I would really like a Kirby-based Doom wad.

>> No.4866593

the only character I want to see naked is the guncaster guy

>> No.4866594

>I would really like a Kirby-based Doom wad.
I remember there was a guy who posted here working on a gameboy kirby themed mod. It's sad because I think he gave up on it.

>> No.4866595


>> No.4866596
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What was Id thinking when they made Doom 3? Didn't they know that Doom was a fast paced FPS with loads of B-movie violence, not "sluggeshly stumble around in the dark for a dozen hours" simulator?

>> No.4866605

quake and doom 2016 are good games, but you're both faggots.

>> No.4866609

He already has 4

>> No.4866616

That's just mostly weapons
I want like an actual full-on Kirby mod, with Kirby-like enemies and graphics. Just like Golden Souls.

Yes, I know about 8-bit Deathmatch, but come on, it doesn't count. It's just a multiplayer mod. I want an actual single player megaman experience in Doom.

>> No.4866621

Doom 3 id hadn't been the id of 1993 or even 1996 for years, Carmack just wanted to show off his fancy new engine that barely anything used

>> No.4866623
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>> No.4866624

mm8bdm does have a single player mode. It's mostly bot matches but it has interesting bosses as well.

>> No.4866626

It was Carmack's vanity project.


>> No.4866634


The Golden Souls 2 is finally OUT!


>> No.4866638

Literally who and why do you keep posting this character? What does he have to do with doom? Is it Autism?

>> No.4866639

It pretty much is.

>> No.4866640

>being new

>> No.4866641

another what

>> No.4866643

Can You atleast bother to quickly look the thread before posting?
This was already posted, come on!!!

>> No.4866648

Waifuposting finally infiltrated the general

>> No.4866649
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he's a character from a doom wad called "Doom Rady's." which feature him and a bunch of characters and i thought he was interesting enough to draw. Is it bad to draw OCs now? Cannot I not draw characters like Demonsteele or that dragon everyone keeps talking about? i'm sorry i offended you with my drawings

>> No.4866659

Unique code that identifies archives.
Basically he's saying he's filtering that picture now.
>i'm sorry i offended you with my drawings
Not him but fuck off with that.

Drawing and posting's fine, whatever. However you can't deny it seems like noone really cares and the only attention you are getting is negative, so.

>> No.4866664
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Play zdcmp2 anon, and stop shitposting!

>> No.4866667

>missing hex tiles
every time...
where do they go?

>> No.4866670

>missing hex tiles
Ahah, don't know.
Just playing the hell out of this wad anon. It's amazing. So far, the best tbqh

>> No.4866672
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>> No.4866673

so whats wrong with missing tiles?

>> No.4866676

This, just stop posting your drawings. Nobody asks for them.

>> No.4866678

>However you can't deny it seems like noone really cares and the only attention you are getting is negative, so.

>> No.4866679

What mods are you playing?

>> No.4866684

And another thing, loomis. You should look into it.

>> No.4866690

they're all nicked by the marisa for ABORT

>> No.4866695

it's just drawings.

>> No.4866696

>what's the DEAL with missing tiles??

>> No.4866708

Bad drawings.

>> No.4866724

Fuck off with that too.

>> No.4866725

Why do you have to be such a crybaby over this harmless shit?

>> No.4866732

Calm down.

>> No.4866736

That if noone cares and the ones who notice don't like them at all there's really not much reason to keep posting them. Other than spite I guess

>> No.4866739

You're really making this a bigger issue than it really is.


>> No.4866742

It's totally fine to post your drawings, but that's a pretty obscure mod and you just post them randomly without context. So people can easily be confused.

>> No.4866754


I coded it to be one, dude.

>> No.4866759

well what is it? I would like to know

>> No.4866770

You're not on /ic/, dude. And even if you were, 'bad drawings' is not constructive critique.

>> No.4866771

I keep falling back to Final Doomer.

>> No.4866772

duly noted, people are only allowed to post content within the confines of established parameters and new ideas and screenshots are not allowed without approval beforehand. beep boop. faggotry engaged.

>> No.4866779

i hate mods. i only play mapsets/megawads

>> No.4866780

How do I make the sound blocking linedef work? Monsters keep getting alerted by gunfire.

>> No.4866781

What if the megawad comes with custom weapons and/or enemies included?

>> No.4866783

Always liked Klesk
Especially his taunt

>> No.4866784

i'd play it anyway, cuz it's intended to be played like that

>> No.4866785

fanmade mapsets are mods.

>> No.4866787 [DELETED] 


>> No.4866791

how in the fuck is that edgy

>> No.4866792

Good point. What about stuff like Smooth Doom?

>> No.4866794

Too many vertices.

>> No.4866795

smooth doom is quite different and i like it but is not necessary for my play experience

>> No.4866802

I really value that all these bored faggots choose the ever growing, kind hearted doom threads as their vent outlet/bait pond. speaks volumes of our community here on /vr/.

>> No.4866803

What are you babbling about?

>> No.4866804

Maybe you should draw better.

>> No.4866805

He drunk too many health bonus.

>> No.4866806

Buttsex episode 3 when
Was 2 any good? I barely remember it, played it to the halfway point.
Wut. Noone's stoping you, but noone likes it either so what's the point.

>> No.4866808

Man, just stop.

>> No.4866818

It's true, I don't mind it though.
But sure.

>> No.4866820

Don't like what?

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>> No.4866824

How about you stop.

>> No.4866826

I'm sorry for your loss.

>> No.4866827

>so what's the point.
since when did community approval ever be a reason to do something?

>> No.4866828
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Make me.

>> No.4866829

Like? I didn't say like.
I was just saying I don't mind the drawposting. It just seems a bit weird, that's all.

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>> No.4866832

>It just seems a bit weird, that's all.
It does. It's also kind of harmless and inconsequential, especially when compared to the other shit that sometimes happens here.

>> No.4866840

Like what?

>> No.4866842

How do I spruce up caves so that they don't look like just a serious of boring rocky corridors?

>> No.4866847

*a series
Man do I need some sleep.

>> No.4866849

Use the randomizer in GZDoom Builder

>> No.4866850

since forever
this is a forum, you share shit, talk about it, that's the point
everyone ignores your shit, why keep posting

>> No.4866851

Add some mining equipment/machinery/tracks/what have you

add an underground river with a fake bridge

put in a few scenes of bloody torture and some prison cells

Add a few unholy altars for good measure

>> No.4866853

Add lots of torches of different colors and corpses or something. There's not really a lot you can do to spruce up a cave.

>> No.4866856

I agree, I don't mind. It is very strange though.
Actual, non hellish caves?

>> No.4866859

>everyone ignores your shit, why keep posting
Is that bad? I thought the saying was. "Do what you like not for others"

>> No.4866860

get bmouse.exe

>> No.4866863

I thought the drawing looked kinda cute, but didn't really have anything to comment on it.

>> No.4866869

In original, Mouse can only read either vertical or horizontal input in a single frame which leads to horrible mouse look. BMouse custom input device solves that issue.

However at this point, there's no reason to play blood in Dosbox over BloodGDX, unless you are playing some custom maps that bug out.

>> No.4866870

Sure I got a bunch of things to recommend! I'll try to share with you things that are perhaps less talked about and hopefully you don't know about.

For gameplay mods:
Gross Deutschland weapon pack I highly recommend, I only found out about this from a discord but basically it lets you play as Hitler guiding his army and it has rts elements which are pretty fun for a fps. It's incredibly fun and can be used in combination with almost any map to my knowledge.

Doom rady- class based Japanese mod, very fun and I only found out about it 2 days ago thanks to these threads.

Doom zone- another class based mod but this one was inspired by killzone so expect alot of realistic weaponry combined with sci fi here and there.
Combined arms.

For map packs:doom2reloaded, TNT: Revilution, thunderpeak, shorefight, doomed space wars, lunatic and uacultra.

>> No.4866871

not really partaking in the conversation, just dropping by to rightfully call you a faggot.

I'm sorry for your cerebral palsy.

you can throw some techbase portions in there for good measure. UAC is all over that excavation shit.
I would unironically sprinkle FIREBLU about the walls to make it seem like they had stumbled upon some unspoken horror the world was not ready for.

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>> No.4866875

that's for personal choices and shit
notice how no anon told him to stop drawing, the farthest they got was telling him to stop posting

if what he likes is posting the drawings here it's like >>4866832 says, weird but harmless

>> No.4866876

Git a flashlight mod, then cheat yourself the chainsaw at the beginning, and make the point to use it as much as possible, even challenge yourself to use it in situations you otherwise wouldn't.

It becomes surprisingly fun and intense.

>> No.4866879

man Doom 2 reloaded is so underrated. its early maps are so comfy
musics top fucking notch too

>> No.4866881

bang bang bang

>> No.4866883

This is giving me a Scourge of Armagon vibe, I like it.

>> No.4866884

I take them sometimes.

Nothing really, but missing floor tiles in Doom is kind of a "baby's first map detail", so to say.
I kind of like it myself, but it's also rather prevalent.

>> No.4866885

>I would unironically sprinkle FIREBLU about the walls to make it seem like they had stumbled upon some unspoken horror the world was not ready for.
that's legit fucking genius

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>> No.4866890

how'd you get different coloured blood?! I can't think of any demons that have yellow blood

>> No.4866891

Are you on dial-up?

>> No.4866901

>no sauce
Ramsay's gonna freak.

>> No.4866904

I've always thought megawads are less than 100mb sizewise.

>> No.4866905

Colourful Hell.

>> No.4866907

Oh, guess my version of the mod is outdated then, since it's just a Weapon.UpSound.

>> No.4866908


That's just a thing some people pass around about how mapsets/mods that exceed 100mb are almost always shitty.
There are some exceptions, mind, but they're extremely rare. And TCs are exempt from this, for obvious reasons.

>> No.4866910
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Does it even needed to be asked? bomberman of course! if nobody does it ..then maybe just maybe oneday I might learn to mod just to create a bomberman gameplay mod.

>> No.4866912

since when did colourful hell add colourful blood?!

>> No.4866915


>> No.4866921
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What's your favorite mod(s) boys? For me it's Dead Marine with Smooth Doom monsters only. I like those loud ass guns. The shotgun feels amazing with Dead Marine.

>> No.4866924

>HeXXXen when
when I have a whole lot more time on my hands and feel comfortable dreaming up a setting where everyone is naked and lots of sehks stuff happens. Also all the time needed to draw the sprites and actually get gud at drawing fleshy body parts.

>> No.4866925

since always, but the blood splatter effect is through UG

>> No.4866929

Calm down dude, i'm sorry, I'm the mod creator. I just didn't expect someone to beat me posting it.

>> No.4866930

Lots of floor & ceiling height variation
Natural-looking room shapes (ie circles & ovals)
Openings to the surface (ie holes with sky textures)
Decorative/impassible tunnels in the walls (can double as functional sound tunnels)
Stalactites & stalagmites

>> No.4866932
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That's pretty funny.

>> No.4866935

I really like the shyguy skin in this...is there a chance you could make it a player skin? I really like it alot. Seeing a shyguy at human height makes them seem more sinister especially with the gasmask.

>> No.4866938

His head is too short because they modeled it on a straight sprite rip instead of stretching the facepic vertically first.

>> No.4866939

now do a quake one

>> No.4866941

Okay yeah wow, there's so many amazing maps in the mod already, puts my silly vertical Mario 64 level to shame.

>> No.4866943

wait, shit, batandy, is that actually you?
shit, fuck, i'm blinded with stardom

it's good to fucking see you, dude, pardon me while i drop my spaghetti
fucking loving GS2 so far, fantastic work

>> No.4866947
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>> No.4866959
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is this foreshadowing a Doom port on Switch?

>> No.4866962

Don't worry man, it's okay, i should've introduced myself, thank you for the support!

>> No.4866969



sun also confirmed for flat

>> No.4866975

I will give you a $10 donation if you make the shyguy enemy in your mod a playerskin.

>> No.4866980

Hey, thanks for asking, i have no plans for making a player skin with that, but if you want you could do it yourself, it's really easy and just a matter of basically renaming files.

>> No.4866993

Boo. Oh well, I'll get on it later this week, then.
Good mod so far desu

>> No.4866994 [DELETED] 

I've never modded before what do I need to do? I would be able to use this skin in other mods if i did this?

>> No.4867007

I want to seriously do this, if you could point me in the direction to what programs to use then I will try to do it. I have never made any mods in my life but I like this skin alot and you make it sound easy so I want to try.

>> No.4867015

SLADE is all you need for every modding purpose (except mapping, you want to use Gzdoom Builder for that).

Now, the thing is, do you want to make your skin a skin for Zandronum or just a skin for the mod? because if it's the latter you basically copy the sprites and rename them to PLAYXX (XX being the only part you don't change). If it's zandronum, i honestly don't know because i don't work with that, but if you download another zandro skin and try to imitate what they did it shouldn't be hard.

>> No.4867020

I want to make a skin that I can use across all mods on gzdoom. I play with my nephew on LAN alot and he usually uses a pikachu skin but I just know he'd love this one too so I want to add it for him.

>> No.4867021

how do I copy the sprites? do I need to rip them from golden souls 2 somehow?

>> No.4867024


Not Batandy but if you can't make it by tomorrow, I'll toss it together for you.

>> No.4867026

Thank you for the offer! I'm going to try and read up on things and hopefully I can figure it out. I always wanted to edit the player hands to reflect the skin they were but with no experience in art it could be harder done then said.

>> No.4867036

Oh, um, sorry.
I autistically overreacted.

So, uh, here: >>4866590

>> No.4867047


At the moment I have no plans for future projects. It's been really exhausting to make this one and i really need a break. I've been working on some golf maps for TerminusEst's golf mod these days, which are kinda easy and relaxing to make. At some point i'd possibly want to try and make a commercial project, possibly a platformer. Other stuff that's on the table for now would be finishing Beneath The Oaks, which was a narrative-driven horror mod i've released two years ago but never managed to complete. But anyway, for now let's enjoy this GS2 ;)

>> No.4867101
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>when you shoot the imp with the shotgun just right

>> No.4867106
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>when the mancubus doesn't die in three rockets

>> No.4867119

anyone recommend me a short and sweet mapset please?
for doom 2 preferably. I want to test my new hideous destructor button layout.

>> No.4867124

Mini Level Megawad.

>> No.4867134 [DELETED] 

I tried using this as a guide but I just can't figure out how to do what this guy is saying. Maybe it's straight forward to the rest of you folks and it seems to be to people replying to this guide in thanks ..but I have no idea what I'm doing and this seems to be the only guide.
I tried using the zombie shotgunner from here https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=60573
as a simple starting point but I just can't make sense of these instructions for the player skin creation guide.

>> No.4867146

I tried using this as a guide but I just can't figure out how to do what this guy is saying. Maybe it's straight forward to the rest of you folks and it seems to be to the people replying to this guide ..but I have no idea what I'm doing and this seems to be the only guide.
I tried using the zombie shotgunner from here https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=60573
as a simple starting point but I just can't make sense of these instructions.

>> No.4867173

>inb4 it was a spriterip from ultimecia

>> No.4867210

Golden Souls 2 changes are so great, finally we can hold more than 999 coins and coins heal 1 hp. It's exactly my biggest issues with the first one, you are a master.

>> No.4867215

>coins heal 1 hp
What difficulty are you playing on? I'm running Galactic veteran and they don't heal

>> No.4867220

Galactic Veteran

>> No.4867223

maybe I accidentally retarted my save in normal actually oh well time to restart, at least I was only at the second spider house

>> No.4867237

welp after replaying a bit I don't know what caused the 1 heal per coin but it's not doing it anymore, I was on the desert level with ~10hp and I ran over coins and my hp went up to ~70hp, maybe it only works under certain conditions? also I am definitely in Galactic Veteran

>> No.4867246

Coins give 1 hp when you're at max amount of coins

>> No.4867247


Coins heal if you reach the coin cap, aka 1999 Coins. If you spend any of the coins, you have to reach the cap again to have the healing effect work

>> No.4867251

Oh so there is a 1999 cap, well its still far better than 999. I ended golden souls with 999 coins and 10 med kits, I really like how the stores are done now

>> No.4867316

it will come sooner or later, Nintendo kinda wants to mend their wounds with Id at this rate, though the port will probably be doom64.

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Why don't you have mouselook on, Anon?

>> No.4867351

because you're a dumb animeposter :^)

>> No.4867357
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*appears behind you in the shadows*

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more than enough

girl and hear spear

>> No.4867396

Foreshadowing Doomguy in Smash Ultimate please have 64guy and Crash cosutmes

>> No.4867417 [DELETED] 

Fuck off and die, Soriel

>> No.4867420

Fuck. Off. Seriously.

>> No.4867421

Doom isn't popular enough in Japan for them to consider it.
Good thing, too. One of the last things I want to see is him ending up in that piece of shit.

>> No.4867425

>buttfrustrated meleeshitter detect4ed

>> No.4867428 [DELETED] 

It's literally a single poster from another board who's been harassing him and other content creators for years.

>> No.4867442

I hate Nintendo as a whole, these days.
Smash 4 was one of the last games I bought from them, and it was the least amount of fun I ever had playing a video game.
Even Brawl was more enjoyable. Fucking BRAWL.

>> No.4867443

See you in December

>> No.4867449

You have greatly insulted me with your summerfag implications, sir.
This will not stand. I challenge you to a duel. Pistols at dawn.

>> No.4867451
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Hey, buddy if you're still interested, someone decided to drop out. Now's your chance to join.

>> No.4867456

I remember Sakurai name dropping Carmack once as a noticeable developer and the Doom twitter account posting some Kirby/Doom fanart but that's it

>> No.4867459

Not retro but can any of you recommend me Painkiller singleplayer maps? I loved the original+Battle Out Of Hell but all the officially released expansions/map packs have reviews ranging from okayish to dogshit. Most of the maps I'm finding online are DM/CTF but I'm really only interested in singleplayer.

>> No.4867539

after OG painkiller the series starts going downhill in parabolic shape, what you may enjoy is Painkiller: Hell and Damnation (or in case you didnt catch that, Painkiller: HD)
its not a full Painkiller remake, its closer to being "best of" album of a band, you get most memorable and unique levels, often with bit different progression, and dlcs have shitload more levels from other games in series. unless its price is good enough for you on sale (with all dlcs of course) get it on steam, otherwise just pirate complete thing.

>> No.4867543

I was pretty immediately turned off it after learning that several of the original game's levels were DLC. Does it have any totally original levels? Would you consider the "different progression" found in some of the levels to be an improvement or just simply different?

>> No.4867545

is there something similar to ziggurat vertigo but for doom?

>> No.4867546

I don't remember but I think the painkiller remake has an obliterated ost

>> No.4867548

changes in levels range from barely noticeable to significant route changes, pretty ok imo, I dont know if all levels are originals, but there are levels I dont remember from painkiller black and another one of games I played, most likely these are improved versions from shitty painkiller games, I recommend pirating if price isnt good for you, full package is 12 british pounds in my area, so about 15-20 dollar/euro range if you are from elsewhere, more painkiller is always good, just pick if you want legit or pirate. also P:HD has a demo if you are unsure, but it will likely just have OG Painkiller maps that you already know

>> No.4867550

>get frame drops on golden souls 1

>> No.4867551

UMDF lets you lower a sector's gravity. I'm sure some maps have taken advantage of it, but I've never seen it used throughout the whole level like in ziggurat vertigo. It also feels janky when compared to quake's zero g.

>> No.4867558

Appreciate the rundown.

>> No.4867562
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How is that possible?

>> No.4867563

note regarding this anon >>4867546
OST is really a mater of your taste, I find new one really good, some tracks have vocals now, maybe it will be up your alley

>> No.4867571

Just in some places on the second level. It's not a big deal but it made me realize how bad my 9 year old computer is.

>> No.4867602

well, that one sleepless night payed off.

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>> No.4867613

GZDoom is surprisingly resource intensive, but it's also not really easy to optimize it without tearing every piece of code out and doing everything over from scratch, so it only gets so much better with a stronger computer.

Having plenty of memory helps, but doesn't make performance issues disappear in certain situations. I went from like 8gb on my old shitass worn out laptop to 12gb, and a much better processor and graphics card, and there's definitely better performance across the board running similar graphical settings, but there's certain things the engine is just going to chug with, such as many monsters doing line of sight checks over a lot of linedefs (so, a VERY detailed map with a lot of monsters).

There's some things which GZDoom actually does stupid though, such as voxels, literally rendering them as individual 1x1x1 polygon cubes, for each individual 'voxel', this eating away dramatically at framerate. There's little reason to use voxels the way the engine handles it, as you could just as well just make a fake voxel model and load that instead, with far less taxing on performance.
I'm not sure if this is the case because Graf is lazy, or because implementing true voxel support would somehow be extremely bothersome and require more work than it's arguably worth, but I'd flip a coin on this one.

>> No.4867615

That's a good point actually, why was Doom 3's engine ignored?

>> No.4867619

I guess it didn't impress people enough, either by the game itself or the engine.

Maybe a bit of a disappointment considering Wolfenstein 3D and Doom both licensed their engines a bit, and how Quake had its engine not just licensed, but that license also being used to create one of the the most critically and commercially acclaimed FPS of the decade, next to Doom itself; Half-Life, and the engine made from Quake's creating a monumental legacy (which is still going).

>> No.4867627

oh my god pain maze is so fucking trash, as well as most of e4, that fucking section with the blobs makes me want to commander keen myself

>> No.4867634

>literally rendering them as individual 1x1x1 polygon cubes

god damn it every time i see this done it makes me mad that i can't just reach through the internet and shake a dumb nerd by the throat

>> No.4867647

Prey 2006 uses it extremely well. Let's face it: that engine was pretty much made for derelict/spooky space stations.

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>> No.4867653

I find it weird that Doom 3 and 64 had more focus on horror and spookyness yet it was the first two main games where hell had more fucked up shit like the walls of faces and the flesh and bone stuff

>> No.4867661

Doom 3's Hell was alright, wasn't it? More otherworldy, as I remember

>> No.4867663
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Painkiller - Town (2-5)

Doom - Slough of Despair (E3M2)
Quake: Scourge of Armagon - Tur torment (E3M1)

>> No.4867671 [DELETED] 

Why do boomers hate BrutalDOOM so much? It's an objective over vanilla.

>> No.4867675

are there any star trek wads that are actually good?

>> No.4867704

>metadoom hasn't been update in over a week

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>> No.4867717

>GZDoom is surprisingly resource intensive
Did converting everything to ZScript affect that?

>> No.4867718

is it compatible with mods, specially enemy based ones?

>> No.4867729

can't hurt to try yourself, after all, one monster mod may work while another won't.

>> No.4867732

Doom 2: Circle of Death
Duke Nukem 3D: Dark Side
Blood: Overlooked Hotel

>> No.4867737

Top 3 in this order

Door To Cthon, E1M6 of Quake
Toxin Refinery, E1M3 of Doom
Advanced Research Complex, Level 8 of Doom 2016

Honorable mentions:

Lunar Base, Chapter 13 of Wolfenstein: The New Order
X Labs, from Mission 5 of RTCW
Enpro Plant, from Doom 3

>> No.4867749

I wanna see Ape Escape meets Doom

>> No.4867764

That's hard... Maybe
>Doom - Sever The Wicked
>Blood - Dark Carnival (not copying I swear)
>Scythe - Subverted Base

>> No.4867773

>Quake: Scourge of Armagon - Tur torment (E3M1)
I tried playing it and the level spawned in a bunch of these fucking mines after I tried climbing the rocks looking for more secrets. Good map.

>> No.4867785
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>> No.4867787

Here's a concept: BFG

>> No.4867802

What's wrong with that?

>> No.4867806

I don't think so.

>> No.4867808

Since some of Doom 4's OST had some melody from the classic Doom games, i'm surprised nobody made "remasters"/remixes of the classic soundtrack that had those melody bits in them, so they'd be remastered soundtrack with D4 sounds.
It would end up being bad, though.

>> No.4867813

s i x s h e l l s

>> No.4867816


You know what ? Why not.

>> No.4867817

I wish D44M had an instrumental option for the music or something, it sounds like a dot matrix printer half the time

>> No.4867819

What if we applied that to Vanilla Doom?

>> No.4867820

>remove RNG
>balance is perfect

>> No.4867823


I believe it's been done. Dont remember which mod though.

>> No.4867835

Good idea.

>> No.4867839
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Because some huehue knows more about game design than the creators of one of the best FPS games ever made
Can't have RNG, then the autists won't be able to perfectly predict everything

>> No.4867841

So it's going to be like Quake there? Doesn't sound too bad, frankly I'm interested to see how it turns out.

Please try to remember, I'm really interested in this.

>> No.4867843

In no particular order:
>E4L9 Derelict - Duke Nukem 3D : Atomic Edition
>E2M2 Containment Area - Doom
>E2M7 Spawning Vats - Doom

I'm supremely terrible at picking favorites and ranking them against each other, in truth this list would be a mile long if it was unrestricted, and they'd all be listed in alphabetical order, because I can't weigh favorites easily against each other.

>> No.4867850
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Sorry to post more of this crap, but... this is coming from the man that made the "Map Enhancement Script".

>> No.4867861
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Brazilian Robbie Rotten couldn't point out Game Balance in a suspect lineup if it gangraped him in a lockerroom together with Sound Design and Clean Coding, with Behaving Like An Adult masturbating loudly in the corner and filming it with his phone.

Removing RNG isn't going to change how fucking upside down the gameplay balance is in BD, you still have fucking S I X S H E L L S, that shit isn't the fault of RNG, that's a deliberate design choice, and a very bad one.
Low tier enemies are made harder, fair enough, that's something I like, but high tier enemies are often made much easier, and that's something I dislike. There's no circumstance where you should be able to one-shot a Baron Of Hell with anything but a BFG9000 tier weapon.

>> No.4867864

Why did those AMAZING game creators create the abomination that is Doom 2's mapset then?

>> No.4867865
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First Encounter Assault Recon - Armacham Headquarters (id consider it one huge level really, though primarily starting at the point where you reach the construction zone until the labs)

Quake 2 The Reckoning - Unit 1 Sewers/Waste Sieve

Halo Reach - New Alexandria, or maybe the later parts of Winter Contingency

> oh you meant Doom right?
TNT Evilution - Mill
Memento Mori (1 or 2?) - Kings Of Metal
Plutonia 2 - The Bloodwall

>> No.4867867
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i literally cannot comprehend your first paragraph

>> No.4867868

>Quake 2 The Reckoning

>> No.4867870

Most of the bad levels in Doom 2 were designed by Sandy Peterson, who AFAIK wasn't involved in coding / game mechanics design.

>> No.4867873

Carmack best designer amirite

>> No.4867876 [DELETED] 
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If I've to be perfectly honest I don't know.
I've found it in a thread on /aco/ . I don't know who made it.Just search "Sorlag hentai" on Google images and you find it

>> No.4867878
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I think he meant that Robbie Rotten doesnt understand Game Balance at all.

And he thinks that removing the random damage values is going to hurt the game balance in Brutal Doom since monsters are already easy to kill. Presumably that means they will also be reliably easy to kill too.

Yeah and thats not even the point where you get the boomerang launcher or the assraping big blaster gun yet.

There's some area similar to this part in Ground Zero too I believe which is an escape from a prison and that's actually my favorite part. But this area in Reckoning has nice tunnels to explore, its cozy and cramped and will choke you and has plenty of little hidden items, and the areas are designed well.

Forget which one of these expansions has the Green Passkey but, it has a water tube area later on in the expansion, some kind of water treatment plant chock full of gladiators. And that too is also one of my favorite FPS areas.
> As you may tell from my choices, I really love duct work and being shoved through narrow water pipes.
> I like COZY, dark, places id like to explore in real life.

>> No.4867879

It's a roundabout way of me saying he wouldn't recognize gameplay balance if it punched him in the face.

>> No.4867881

Wasn't he part of the art direction, though?

>> No.4867884

He actually did have some input, on the account that half of everyone at iD at that time would pull varying degrees of duty as Ideas Guy, as they were just these couple of dudes making this game together.
Romero was the main ideas guy, but Tom, Cloud, Adrian and Sandy, all contributed something here and there. Even Carmack made some minor note every now and then.

The Arch-Vile was partially Sandy's idea, for instance, him and Adrian worked him out (with Punchatz making the latex model, of course), and he also pushed for some of the vaguely Lovecraftian things (to Romero's delight).

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If I've to be perfectly honest I don't know.I've found it in a random /aco/ thread.You can find it by searching "Sorlag hentai" on Google images if you want.

>> No.4867887

>most of the bad levels
That's partially because he was rushed and picking up Romero's slack, because Sandy was their most prolific mapper and the only guy there who could actually have done that (doing just about half of all of iD's levels in Doom 1 and 2).

People who shit on his bad maps in Doom 2 are quick to forget that he also worked on some really good maps, too.

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I feel like you had too much fun with that first paragraph

>> No.4867892
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I'm having so much fun with Guncaster.The sprites,the gunplay are excellent.
Of course the problem is you are Overpowered,so I decided to play it with Maps of Chaos on high difficulty.

>> No.4867894

>People who shit on his bad maps in Doom 2 are quick to forget that he also worked on some really good maps, too.
I think he made some really good maps in Quake.

>> No.4867897

and remember, there's two sliders to adjust the damage you take and inflict
incase you want mutual glasccannoning or bulletsponging

>> No.4867906 [DELETED] 

DUDE dragon penis LMAO

>> No.4867907

Quake was some of his best fucking level work ever. I think he had gained a lot of experience by then, and he also suddenly had three real dimensions, along with a more restricted theme for colors, forcing him to be more consistent with visuals.

>> No.4867908

daily dose

>> No.4867910

hmm? you want dragon penis?

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>> No.4867920

/co/ get out of here

>> No.4867923

Doom 3 is a fine game that chose to focus on the horror elements of the franchise rather than the action elements. Not what the community wanted maybe, but nothing wrong with it on its own. Also it had the best imp design

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>> No.4867929

don't you mean best hellknight design because it wasn't just a recolored baron AND it carried to later games

>> No.4867936

I think it's a good game if you have a flashlight mod.
It's not terrible without it, but that gimmick is such a drawback for the game.

>> No.4867938

What horror elements? Monster closets every now and then that scared nobody? Using the flashlight every now and then? Hundreds of ammo pickups so that you'd be hard pressed to ever run out and ruin whatever possible horror element there was? It was still more action than anything else and as such it was extremely mediocre due to the barely existing level design, slow gameplay and underwhelming combat. Boy did Hell disappoint people.

>> No.4867940
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The combat is super exciting if you focus on using the chainsaw as much as possible.

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>> No.4867942

There are almost no truly scary games. It's all fake, lmao, it can't harm you.

>> No.4867951

>what is immersion

>> No.4867957 [DELETED] 

a buzzword

>> No.4867959
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No I think ill just focus on using the Plasma Rifle and Machinegun as much as possible and practically ignore all the other weapons, because plasma cells grow on trees and between the two weapons id never run out of ammo.
> no reason to even use the rocket launcher, which feels dreadfully underpowered
And practically cant use shotgun shells that you've got saved up. Its like tossing a handful of sand.

Silent Hill was only partially scary, mostly the parts that make you run because you absolutely cant stand your ground (after the twinfeeler battle, running on the catwalks above the darkness... or just before the lighthouse, all those fucking dogs).

Resident Evil 1 and 2 are pretty damn scary in terms of how close you have to cut it though, just how close it forces your face against the grinding wheel.
> Returning back to the mansion you get chased by the Hunter, if you react fast you can take it out. But wait there's more, now they're behind every fucking nook and cranny in the house too.
> The first time you fought the giant snake was bad enough. The 2nd time when it comes out of the fireplace its fucking MURDER.
And playing as Claire in Res2 is pretty goddamn harsh. No shotgun... AND she has to deal with Mister.X along with the hardest boss battle in that game.

Its scary because shit will literally jump out from a corner and fuck your ass up without a warning sometimes. And you dont want to use your best resources on it because you're hoping to use that on something else later on. Makes you use your magnum rounds because if you dont you're going to blow through a bunch of health items.
And boss battles where its right there presented fully without any skulking, and your ass is still going to be limping before the battle is half over because of the tank controls no matter what you do.

> perhaps a buzzsaw

>> No.4867960

After playing Master Levels for a few hours trying to 100% everything, I got up and took a walk outside. I saw a small service access shed surrounded with gravel on all its sides. I tried to imagine what the shed was for, because you couldn't fit much of anything inside. The answer was a staircase. I forgot that the IRL engine, unlike Doom, supported 3D floors.

>> No.4867962
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Immersion, atmosphere, sympathy and empathy due to sufficiently convincing characters, etc.
Basically shut up.

I'll buzz your word.

>No I think ill just focus on using the Plasma Rifle and Machinegun as much as possible and practically ignore all the other weapons, because plasma cells grow on trees and between the two weapons id never run out of ammo.
No, see, the point of sticking to the chainsaw is challenge.

It has a mighty DPS, but to use it, you have to get in melee range, and while this is easy for low tier mooks, for higher tier ones like hellknights and mancubodes, this is actually really hard, because they react so fast with melee and they're hard to dodge.
So using the chainsaw, you feel powerful mowing down low tier mooks, but you feel like a goddamn god when you manage to destroy a large demon with the saw and the saw alone, without being killed, especially if there were more than one of them.

>> No.4867963
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Why does this happen and how do I fix it?

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>> No.4867975

is this thing humping me!?

>> No.4867979
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>> No.4867981


Left 4 Doom...

>> No.4867982

So technically Dawn of the Dead Extreme Epidemic Edition?

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>And practically cant use shotgun shells that you've got saved up. Its like tossing a handful of sand.
try getting closer

>Resident Evil 1 & 2
>trying to pass off godawful 'early 3d game' controls as a conscious design decision to 'enhance the scaryness'

And im sure the legendarily bad writing, dialogue, and FMV cutscenes were also 'deliberate choices' that somehow improved the game is some ridiculous logical backflip sort of way. please stop

>> No.4867998

>try getting closer
The Doom 3 shotgun is inexcusably fucking bad though, especially comparing to how the classic Doom shotgun actually can pattern respectably at 'across the street' distances.
The spread is just absurdly high, you really couldn't expect to score a good hit at 20 feet.

>And im sure the legendarily bad writing, dialogue, and FMV cutscenes were also 'deliberate choices' that somehow improved the game is some ridiculous logical backflip sort of way
Actually, to me, they have a great appeal in the sense of a B horror movie. Very entertaining and charming.

There's still some suspense though, with the mysteries of the first and second games.
I won't defend tank controls though, that shit is just bad design.

>> No.4868012

goddamn I hate jockey AI.
nor only do they pull some bullshit fucking jumps everytime, they're also completely fucking silent up until the moment they pounce on you or get near you.

>> No.4868023

>they pull some bullshit fucking jumps everytime
> https://youtu.be/CzcKhPakODU?t=2m51s
thanks for reminding me of this

>> No.4868025

oh, timestamp don't work
go to 2:51

>> No.4868027
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What enemy would you like to see in Eternal?
Personally I wouldn't mind if they add the nazis from Wolfenstein.Like they did in Doom 2.
I don't know if they should made from scratch or use the models from the latest games of the series.
I also would like to see some enemy from other games like the Bruiser from Doom 3 and the Sawcubus from Doom RPG.

Oh and of course,more boss fights.I would really like to fight something like the Titan.

>> No.4868031

doom 64 style pain elementals that spit 2 lost souls instead of one.

>> No.4868032

Ticks and trites would be cool.

>> No.4868035

finally someone who knows what's up
holy shit they're so fucking irritating. not even chargers are this horrible and they're fucking annoying

>> No.4868039

I liked the paragraph

>> No.4868045
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I had completely forgotten just how creepy and amazing the first FEAR was. the lowpoly graphics and stilted animations were super fucking effective for conveying that uncanny vibe they went after.

they did themselves a real disservice the moment they started focusing more on actual combat. both sequels dwelved too far into tacticool territory, ditched the horror component entirely and swapped out the interesting premise they had going on for the blander and more generic 'lets save the world from thing' plot.

christ I'm still fucking mad.

>> No.4868046

I hope archviles haven't completely replaced summoners, they would have a hilarious dynamic

>> No.4868047
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>Low tier enemies are made harder, fair enough, that's something I like, but high tier enemies are often made much easier, and that's something I dislike. There's no circumstance where you should be able to one-shot a Baron Of Hell with anything but a BFG9000 tier weapon.
Exactly,I know it's a pain in the ass fighting a walking door,but make it a total glass cannon is ridiculous especially his size.
I've played Quake Stuff Ultra with Brutal Doom monsters only and the fact I was able to kill with vanilla gameplay from another game so easily said high tier enemies who supposed to be more challenging,was laughable.

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>I've played Quake Stuff Ultra with Brutal Doom monsters only and the fact I was able to kill with vanilla gameplay from another game so easily said high tier enemies who supposed to be more challenging,was laughable.

>> No.4868051

you wanna retry that last sentence there, bud

>> No.4868052

>I've played Quake Stuff Ultra with Brutal Doom monsters only and the fact I was able to kill with vanilla gameplay from another game so easily said high tier enemies who supposed to be more challenging,was laughable.

>> No.4868059


brink use it

also, it's a pretty lame game

>> No.4868060

But who was phone?

>> No.4868061

At least a third of Doom 2 is really good, the second third is passable, and only one third is actually really bad.

>> No.4868065


next op pic right here >>4868027

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literally laughing right now

>> No.4868071

The same creators who took RNG out of Quake?

>> No.4868072

Alright I didn't explain right,sorry.
Basically I was able to run both "Brutal Doom monsters Only" and Quake Stuff Ultra and for some reason it was easier to kill the enemies.

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commie furfag

>> No.4868078

Who is that animu at Sandy's side? I hope she is a proper Mormon girl, underwear included.

>> No.4868079

Apparently a thing that happens in Marathon are elevators that you must leave quickly before they make you hit the ceiling and hurt you

>> No.4868080

They're the OTP now.

>> No.4868081
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when you merge the "Desktop" folder of your nested "Back Up" folders of the last 5 formattings

>> No.4868085

Looks like grandpa's PC

>> No.4868086
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What was your first community-made WAD?

Mine was Deus Vult

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>> No.4868089

I can see your zelda lewds

>> No.4868091

TNT Evilution

>> No.4868093

Are you the anon who recommended caustics generator to me a good while back? Cause that stuff is dope.

>> No.4868095

I think Scythe.

>> No.4868098
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200 minutes of /vr/ because you guys had just finished it when I started browsing these threads a few years back.

>> No.4868101
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it's worst than it seems


those are not lewds, zelda is pure PURE



>> No.4868107

stop stealing wifi, you faggot

>> No.4868113

just wipe the disk at this point

>> No.4868123

Slough of Despair is embarassing. How Petersen managed to come up with this abomination and wasn’t fired immediately?

>> No.4868124
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Why is Blood, Hexen and Heretic so underrated in this thread? Btw the last i mentioned has a very vaporwavesque, nostalgic/comfy first level imho.

>> No.4868128

Did you sunbathe already? (if you don't understand this question, you will, eventually)

>> No.4868132

As someone stuck there, you just reminded me how much I want to die.

>> No.4868137

That secret with the arrow pointing at it (the one below the fourth finger) is a genuine "Oh shit" moment though.

>> No.4868140

There will be much more fitting opportunities to really want to die further on.

>> No.4868146

After recovering my xbox hueg collection of wads, a power outage has made my hard drive shit itself, leaving me back to square one.

Fuck everything.

>> No.4868148

That was a fun map, what was wrong with it?

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>> No.4868160

>That would need a very complicated script to do what you are saying
what is A_JumpIfCloser

fucking retarded spic

>> No.4868162
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all those new folders all over the place

Random is okay as long as its not all over the place. Something like 1d6+Intended Damage is decent, get a different result and health remaining almost always looks different, but its not wild like that 10-80 damage from a revenant.

Memento Mori and that was way back in the day.

>> No.4868165


Okay back home. Will work on this for you, anon.


Heretic is cool, IMO. Hexen I like a lot but could be improved.
There's just not really much to say because there's rarely a lot of new content for the games.

>> No.4868167

You're probably waiting for someone to remark upon "Naked Cacodemon Pictures".

>> No.4868168

I was with you until "vaporwavesque"

>> No.4868173

Lack of ammo.

>> No.4868187

Hm, fair point I suppose, but I like that it does challenge in that way.
I play continuously, so generally I'll have whatever scraps from the previous map (and granted, things are a bit sparse in E3M1, too).

Other maps which deprive you on ammo is E4M1 and E4M2, both of them really challenging, but also pretty fun (E4M1 in particular).

>> No.4868190

there's plenty of ammo...?

>> No.4868192

there isn't though...?

>> No.4868193

who dat qt

>> No.4868197
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Yeah me too i think Hexen could be better, but it's still a great fps. The 2nd one on Steam sucks, at least the commands. It's weird, because it doesn't run on dosbox (that sometimes is even worse)... I'll try to make it work somehow on my PC, for now the one that gave me the most problems was Blood, but damn if that's a good game.

>> No.4868205

Use the hammer of thyrion sourceport for Hexen II. Give a chance, it's a good game.

>> No.4868206

I was just mentioning something i've seen in the game

>> No.4868208

Try Hexen 2 with the Hammer Of Thyrion sourceport, it's good.
And don't play as the Assassin. Terrible class. I know the Crusader is fun though.

>> No.4868209

not him but it would be their fault for not setting a password.

>> No.4868213
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I still have several much more boring WADS and gameplay mods to play with/through. I'll need to put this on the back burner.

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All of those games are great, but they don't have a steady stream of maps and mods coming out for them like doom, so there's not as much to discuss.

>> No.4868226 [DELETED] 

It's the fursona of video game YouTuber Hbomberguy

>> No.4868235
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>them weapons in Golden Souls 2
God damn these are so much better than the weapons in GS1, and I haven't even gotten the trumpetbuss yet, I've been flooring monsters with super charged uppercuts and shotgun blasts.
The pistol you start with and the blaster you can find are really good too

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Thank you very much for letting me know. i hope it's compatible with Steam, but i'll surely use it. Don't worry, i don't think it's a bad game, just a bad optimization (like almost everything that said platform has to offer regarding this stuff)

>> No.4868242 [DELETED] 

Didn't he cover up a literal rapist in his company of friends?

>> No.4868245


I was stealing the hospital wifi, my wife was hospitalized 3 weeks

>> No.4868248 [DELETED] 


In fact, I think I know who you are talking about, and THAT guy didn't do it either.

>> No.4868272

>duke3d: the abyss
>duke3d: Duke Burger
>Heretic: E1M5 - The citadel

>> No.4868302

Does anyone know the source of this pic? I know its the frog girl from MHA, but Ive only ever seen it as a cropped pic like here or a vibrating gif

>> No.4868310

There's a Berserk Pack. Your opinion is invalid.

>> No.4868313


Enjoy, mate. It's a super bare-bones skin, doesn't have proper palette-coloring or extra frames or things like that, but the sounds are cute.

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here ya go.

>> No.4868317

Ah yes, a berserk pack makes a map's difficulty just disappear.

>> No.4868320

I want that frog to sit on my face

>> No.4868324

No, but with some skillfull punching you won't have nearly as much trouble managing ammo. You are a good puncher, right anon?

>> No.4868329

I love hexen 2, but god damn is the first hubworld bleak. I wish they went with the same color scheme as hexen/heretic, like just changing the sky into a deep blue or red would improve the world a lot, compared to that overcast gray shit.

>> No.4868330

what difficulty? the original three episodes are fucking easy, e3m2 is no exception

>> No.4868334

that's not a fucking frog
fuck anime!

>> No.4868337

She's more like a frog person. She's a nice girl.

>> No.4868340

the lever action is BEAST
and the stargun has a ripper altfire
spam it in confined areas with mancs and arachnotrons for maximum cheese

>> No.4868358

>maximum cheese
oh god

>> No.4868359

I don't love this guy but his LISA vid was exemplary

>> No.4868382
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There was plenty of ammo, I remember seeing 2 boxes of shotgun shells (2800 damage), and if you can get those shotgunner platforms to lower you get a bunch more shells from that. Plasma rifle with 40 cells and maybe even more cells I dont remember.
Lost Souls can practically be ignored, but with the berserk they just die.
Most dangerous part about e3m2 was the shotgunners and the cacos (close action means possible caco bites). Also except for spikes getting in the way the map was close combat so berserk really destroys monsters in that map. There's also an ambush which could get dicey but the only real danger there is the pinkies.

>> No.4868383 [DELETED] 

has /v/ reee'd about him yet

>> No.4868391
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I hate PRCP

>Why are you playing PRCP then anon?

Because I hate me

>> No.4868392

I played RE 2 for the first time a few months ago and i thought it was fine. The enemies were to clunky to be a challenge, even if the controls sucked. If have a hard time with it you just suck.

>> No.4868393

For real?
If so, thanks for everything man.

>> No.4868410

When you get to the point when you'll suddenly understand, what I was talking about, in regards to this game, by all means, please, post your impressions here.

>> No.4868451

according to my timeline folder, it's pokemon doom. but i remember playing kama sutra zpack or dwitd

>> No.4868461

>He didn't get used to the tank controls within ten minutes of playing
>It's a bad game because of this

Love this meme desu

>> No.4868464

>you didn't eat the shit sandwich this means that you have no taste for shit

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>> No.4868467

> jetpack revenants
you madman

>> No.4868469

I never thought they were good, even back in the day.
Some argue that it's the only physically possible way to have third person controls with a fixed camera, but I don't think that's true.

I'm glad they're not a thing anymore.

>> No.4868480

what crawled up your ass and pitched a barbed tent there?

>> No.4868489


>> No.4868495

Is the pistol ever useful after you get the chaingun?

>> No.4868503


>> No.4868521

Same, I never feel any nostalgia for tank controls. I didn't care for them. Anyone can learn them but it doesn't make them a good control scheme. Fatal Frame 1 is one of my most favorite games so I had to deal with the controls and it won't stop me from playing it but I prefer better controls.

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>> No.4868547

You'll need some cream for that.

>> No.4868548

Shooting switches.

>> No.4868551

tank controls are an objectively terrible, clunky way to handle 3d movement. The fact that your favorite childhood game used them doesnt change this.

>> No.4868562

I only got peanut butter and jelly.

>> No.4868563

for what exactly... ?

>> No.4868570
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Pre-cyberization revenants and arachnotrons. Like seriously, what was that thing before they strapped robot parts to it?

The return of hitscan, gun wielding zombies

Cyberdemons as regular enemies

>> No.4868586

>The return of hitscan, gun wielding zombies
I would like that.
Including both the dull, slow, and dimwitted kind, the guy with a blank stare who's just barely supporting his pistol with his arm, and pointing it vaguely at you, just rattling off rounds in your direction, and then the more fast and alert kind, think the Doom 3 Z-Sec troopers.

>> No.4868589
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im waiting for earthbound doom to be finished

>> No.4868590

in doom 2016 Pre-cyberization revenants are just normal humans and in the original games are probably imps

>Cyberdemons as regular enemies
fuck you
i hated it when doom 2 did that, now, a non cyber cyberdemon, like the regular demon, that i would like to see

>> No.4868601

Revs were formerly humans in nuDoom. A lot of them voluntary iirc, if you can believe that
Don't really want hitscanners back, the one we had is quite enough
>i hated it when doom 2 did that, now, a non cyber cyberdemon, like the regular demon, that i would like to see
Yeaaa that would be dope
IIRC that sort of demon is kind of extinct but I hope we get to fight a few

Yes I read the logs I'm a nerd

>> No.4868603

well the cybie is called a "balgaar demon"
and the barons seem to have the same arm blades
> map08 scenario with a room full of arm blade barons + one organic balgaar demon

>> No.4868616

Is there a list of all community projects?

>> No.4868618

that would be a pretty long list my friend

>> No.4868629
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Porn when?

>> No.4868632
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Earth military forces that will fight alongside you at certain points, that regard you with a sort of respect and fear at the same time

all the doom 2016 multiplayer weapons, in singleplayer

Bringing back the legacy weapons like the original plasma rifle, and the doom 3 version of it as well. Each one could have slightly altered stats, a different secondary fire, and a unique upgrade line

a semi auto/ auto shotgun

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I want it back, along with its distinct VOIPVOIPVOIPVOIPVOIPVOIPVOIPVOIP

>> No.4868642

your opinions are terrible

>> No.4868645

>Earth military forces that will fight alongside you at certain points, that regard you with a sort of respect and fear at the same time
Sounds like the game becoming even more of a fast halo game, not that that's necessarily a bad thing.

>> No.4868683

>all the doom 2016 multiplayer weapons, in singleplayer
Kind of want this, mostly for the grenade launcher and that demonic gun that spits red lightning.

>> No.4868684

i fucking hated that shit in D4T and wish there was a way to turn it off

>> No.4868697

no u

I dont really understand, considering doom 2016 and halo are so incredibly different in every aspect of their execution. If doom is 'fast halo' then theif is 'sneaky halo'

>> No.4868707

and in it's actual tier
not "slightly above the mg"

>> No.4868712

Which is better, Tech Gone Bad or Phobos Mission Control?

>> No.4868718

>That mazmon caco thing is in GS2

>> No.4868728

Any mapping tips? My main trouble is simply continuing a map once I've finished the starting room and if I manage to get past that, the problem becomes making things flow nicely.

>> No.4868737

What's the best Doom 64 source port? Right now I have Doom 64 EX, Doom 64 Retribution, and Brutal Doom 64. I like the lighting effects in the last one, that's all I have to say about it. I haven't gotten around to trying the other two for comparison yet. Are there any I'm missing? I never got to play Doom 64 back in the day and I always just assumed it was the same game we had on the computer. I didn't know at the time it was a full different game.

>> No.4868739

>My main trouble is simply continuing a map once I've finished the starting room
Start a new map but start all of the rooms at the same time.

>> No.4868742

play them and decide for yourself, what others may think of something may not be shared by you.

>> No.4868771

Don't detail a single room until you have flow figured out. Don't have things that look like you should be able to jump on them (or walk up, in vanilla Doom's case) but can't. Invisible walls are almost always annoying. Multiple floor heights in a single room in real life is annoying, but adds interest in vidya games. Back tracking is usually annoying unless you produce more gameplay. Switch hunts (threw a switch - what did it do!?) suck... You should usually see the door before you see the key, and it's often good to add a new route to get back to it once you get the key. Realistic environments suck in Doom.

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I hate switch hunts so much I cannot stand it. I want switch hunt to be a demon so I can shoot it.

>> No.4868796

co-op campaign, a horde mode, backwards compatibility with DOOM 4 snapmap & mod support (hell, i wouldn't even mind it leading to a creation club for doom if it meant that we can have mods back)

>all the doom 2016 multiplayer weapons, in singleplayer
we did get most of them in snapmap but yeah i'd like to see them make a return for the singleplayer proper

>Bringing back the legacy weapons like the original plasma rifle, and the doom 3 version of it as well. Each one could have slightly altered stats, a different secondary fire, and a unique upgrade line
unless we're getting competitive multiplayer back this seems more like a thing for quake champions to do down the road.

>> No.4868801

> a token ambush monster behind the door/path opened by a remote switch
> small monster closets open up with more ambush monsters and a few normal ones to guide the player to the right direction
> health/armor bonuses leading to/ piled infront of progression critical switch

i hate when boss monsters are placed to permanently guard switches
the blood splatters always end up covering it entirely and i don't even realize there was a switch behind them

lighting and textures go a long way for guiding/ detailing in place of excessive geometry

>> No.4868805
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So /doom/ what's your favorite song to accompany a wad? Mine is probably Voids.

>> No.4868806

start with a center area and work in two directions (progress wise) and then decide which makes a better start and exit
keep it basic and leave room for larger changes until you have a complete, if vague general layout
changing detailed/complete areas is a pain in the dick and will kill your will to continue

> wrap arounds to repopulated old areas that open up to new ones

>> No.4868808

Beyond Reality has some really great tunes.

>> No.4868812

what's the one before plutonia & the one after freedoom phase 2?

>> No.4868829
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Re-enactment of my first encounter with Golden Soul's gargoyle boss. Wow, though.

>> No.4868839

> the music in that level, boss theme including
still doesn't compare to the orchestral version
hell, i'll fight anything to that boss theme

>> No.4868861

there's a level in golden souls 2 that uses a SOTN song

>> No.4868884

How do you make touch controls not terrible when playing Doom on your phone? I'm working night shift at this place and my whole job is walking around every 30 minutes and logging meter readings in different rooms. That's it. I'm trying to play Freedoom on my phone and the controls through touch are so awful even easy difficulty is tough as nails. The controls are the most difficult enemy.

>> No.4868886

get a gamepad

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>Archviles can now resurrect each other if left to their own devices with corpses of their kin.

>> No.4868897

Next time put the spoiler, kiddo.

>> No.4868956

What are you talking about, Anon?

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>he doesn't know how to put a spoiler

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>> No.4868968

or you can, you know, not click on the webm.

>> No.4868971
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It's a boss from an earlier level of a wad from years ago. It's not that big of a deal.

>> No.4868975

oh wow?! you did it ! you really really did it! that's ..impressive ..I didn't expect you to do that at all. I actually figured out how to make skins but I just couldn't figure out how to make Snifit one, his animation was weird when i made him a skin as if he was getting hurt alot.
I'd love to know how you did this. A1-D1 is supposed to be a walk cycle right? in the Snifit animation his C1 looks like he is doing a attack and the d1 a attack slightly to the side. You even went to the effort of adding sounds, my nephew is going to love this thanks alot ..I mean it.

I'm going to take a look at your skin in slade3 later and see how you did it, hope you don't mind.

>> No.4868980

is this for a mod that's already out? looks great

>> No.4868981

Search circus666 on /idgames

>> No.4868992

they are both pretty bad

>> No.4868994

I've got a gamepad man, I just can't bring it with me here. My main problem with the touch is that when trying to aim it doesn't register holding. So if I want to look to the right I have to keep swiping right and can't just slide right and hold to keep turning.

>> No.4868996

touch screen is ass for FPS gaming my dude, you're better off with casual shitty games for your phone. you just ain't gonna get anything better from it.

trust me it fucking sucks.

>> No.4869001

stop playing at work dumbero

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>> No.4869071

Out of all those only one is a port

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>> No.4869098

Hi, Batandy here, Please spread the word to anyone who's playing GS2: The third coin in silhouette sunset is glitched, you can't get back on the main platform once you get it, please noclip out of it. It will be patched. https://i.imgur.com/TpePIr5.png

>> No.4869102

i was wondering about that

good to know, thanks for the update

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Wake up goddammit. There are more demons to shoot than you can shake a shotgun at and they were all laughing at you while you were asleep. They said your super shotgun is small. Time to get started.

>> No.4869123

I'm shooting them with my pistol though.

>> No.4869124

why you lie on the internet?

>> No.4869126

I also punch pinky demons.

>> No.4869135

But I shot them in my dream though. At least I think those were demons.

>> No.4869168

nigger I kept up the entire night playing left 4 dead 2 with friends.
fuck you demons you ain't shit. you're all too cute to be menacing or scary.

>> No.4869189

Playing Blood for the first time, tried to set it up using DOOM controls but that didn't work quite right due to having to aim up down.

Tried to use mouse and the aiming feels off when strafing. What do?

>> No.4869195

You can try bmouse.
http://swisscm.duke4.net/ (not a joke, that's the legit download site.)
Or you can use BloodGDX, closest thing to a port we have at the moment.

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I tried with BMouse and BloodGDX but i wasn't so lucky, perhaps you'll have some with those. In the end, i just edited the keys from the game itself, and then i pressed ' U ' in-game, that is the shortcut for mouse look. Hope it helps, if not try with this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286998267

>> No.4869201

Does nuts.wad count?

>> No.4869206

Thanks brehs, bmouse alone was enough.

>> No.4869210
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No one reported about this juicy bundle... What do you think about it? https://store.steampowered.com/app/238050/The_Apogee_Throwback_Pack/

>> No.4869227

Not a bad deal, Rise Of The Triad is great fun.
Extreme Rise Of The Triad is cruel, however, don't expect much enjoyment out of it.

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This is scary.

>> No.4869278

How often do you save? I feel like I abuse the system too much.

>> No.4869339

The platforming is waaaay too much, especially with GZDoom's slippery physics, coupled with insta-death pits. Another thing is that some times stuff that looks like it should not result in instant death does. In canyon levels there are "dark void" pits that are obvious instadeath, but then there is a river that does not look like it, but is.

It was much better handled in Strange Eons and other such maps, where a platforming error would just send you to the beginning of the challenge.

If you want to punish the player, maybe make them take 5 or 10 damage before teleporting them off to the beginning of the section.
Instadeath is so frustrating it just incites player to savescum and makes them feel frustration both at the mapper and at their own savescum.
This on the whole completely devalues the challenge of the platforming making it tedious instead of enjoyable.

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>maybe there's some secret down below

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This just isn't fun.

GS1 didnt have such bullshit.

>> No.4869359

Acquire proficiency

>> No.4869364

New thread.


Sorry about this thread's OP pic, won't happen again like the Shambler crop.

>> No.4869529

shovelad.wad The Shovelware Adventure comes to mind

>> No.4869840

>then theif is 'sneaky halo'
I'm tempted to call it like that from now on just for shit and giggles.

>> No.4869932

you have literally nothing to apologize for

don't feel the need to bow down to handwringers terrified of memes

>> No.4870518

does that mean "people who choose to abstain from being part of the cancer killing not just /co/ but all discussion of western animation, and for good reason?"

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