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4862859 No.4862859 [Reply] [Original]

why does everyone bully the TRS-80 model 1?

>> No.4862875 [DELETED] 

>>>/g/66493853

The answers to all that and more can be found in here.

>> No.4862942

READY
>CLOAD
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[5 minutes later]
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>RUN
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>> No.4862976

READY
>LOAD"STAR TREK"
*brp brrrp brrppppp*

?DISK ERROR
READY

>> No.4862981

>spends an hour working on term paper in Scripsit
>ok now let's save th...
*bumps expansion interface cable*

FUUUUUU...

>> No.4862990

That thing would actually reset if an airplane flew overhead because it had no RF shielding.

>> No.4863004

>>4862859
Because people only care about games around here. And TRS-80 model 1 games existed... but that's about the best you can say for them.

But it terms of useful computers normal people could afford in the '70s, it was pretty dang good.

>> No.4863024

>>4863004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ai9jtJHYow

>> No.4863029

>>4863004
So far as retro PC games are concerned, the only platforms that matter are C64, Amiga, and PC compatibles. The rest can be ignored without you missing a thing.

>> No.4863064

>>4863029
You forgot the Japanese machines. MSX, PC-88, PC-98, and X68000 all had stuff worth looking into.

>> No.4863067

>>4863064
>weeb dating sims and Wizardry
>worth looking into

>> No.4863074

>>4863067
Yes, those and a shitload of JRPGs, shmups, and non-romance-focused adventure games.

>> No.4863086

>>4863029
LOLwhat did the Amiga have except Euro shovelware and shitty arcade ports?

>> No.4863128

>>4862859
Why do graphics on the trash have flickering black bars all over?

>> No.4863130

>>4863029
The Atari computers had more quality arcade ports than the Commodore machines did

>> No.4863146

>>4863130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtzrigEKkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCTg9k-1uKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKALWux-Zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-vq1MpCaIE

Let's not, shall we?

>> No.4863151

>>4863128
It's caused by contention between the CPU and the video circuitry--they can't both access the video RAM at the same time.

>> No.4863160

>>4863146
>st
I was talking about Commodore and Atari's 8-bit computers

>> No.4863164

>>4863151
The Apple II avoided this problem because the 6502 only accesses the RAM every other clock cycle and Steve Wozniak found that he could have the video circuitry refresh the RAM during the odd-numbered cycles. So no problems with flicker or snow like the TRS-80 or PET.

>> No.4863169

>>4863160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKkyDjpWX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKnEQ8t_0jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDoA_l-PLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOR_DX1JCMg

If you think the Atari version is better, more power to you.

>> No.4863170

>>4863169
nice cherrypicking

>> No.4863175

It is an unfair comparison anyway since the Atari 8-bits didn't have a lot of arcade ports including essentially everything from the late 80s aside from those piece of shit conversions of Gauntlet and Arkanoid I linked.

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4863181

>>4862859

>> No.4863195

>>4863164
That man really was clever. Even though the limitations of the Apple II were painfully obvious by the early 80s and Apple never really significantly expanded on the platform, there’s no denying that in 1977 no other computer even came close. A micro with color? A disk drive that didn’t cost as much as the base computer? Basically limitless expandibility?

God I sound like a bonafide shill

>> No.4863749

>>4863195

I hate apple cocksuckers so fucking much

>> No.4863760

tandy computers are garbage, strong bad anon

>> No.4863770

>>4863064
pc98 and x68000 were miles ahead of everyone in the west. both machines served as development systems for arcades. the CPS arcade system was directly based on the x68000.

>>4863067
> be you
> 12
> not knowing anything about japanese computer hardware
WHAT A SURPRISE

>> No.4863771
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4863771

>>4863067
>Wizardry
Off-topic, but is the PSX Wizardry worth playing?

>> No.4863776

>>4863086
> be you
> american
> stuck with ntsc c64 and amiga
> no demoscene
> no cracking scene after 1990
> no music scene
> USA: endless shareware software shilling broken programs and garbage
> USA: known for producing shit-tier level sims and rpg garbage nobody gave a fuck about.

WEW LAD. USA USA USA #1

>> No.4863782

>>4863130
commodore ended up with atari st ports of some arcades because programmers were so fucking lazy. so lazy in fact they didn't even bother fixing colours to look right on the amiga. st and amiga arcade conversions (all of them) were fucking terrible.

you would know this if you EVER owned an amiga or st..
> pro-tip: you have never owned anything.

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4863803

>>4863782
see >>4863160
The Atari machines had the better golden age arcade ports. Commodore machines had (much) better original titles.

> pro-tip: you have never owned anything.
sweetie you can't even greentext right

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>>4863776

>> No.4863910

>>4863782
Sometimes this was true, but the Amiga TNZS easily kills the ST port.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meDd7ZaYto

>> No.4863916

>>4863803
>The Atari machines had the better golden age arcade ports.
What's the "golden age"?

>> No.4863920

>>4863910
The NES version didn't even manage to get the intro screen where he's carrying away the kiwis.

>> No.4863934

>>4863920
The arcade game used twin Z80s at 6Mhz. You'd need a proper 16-bit CPU to match that kind of speed.

>> No.4863937

>>4863916
He probably means early 80s arcade games like Pac-Man et al.

>> No.4863939

>>4861593

This thread started out ok but it quickly turned into Youtube comments so I said fuck it.

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4864053

>>4863181
This guy sounded like a bit of a crybaby bitch.

>> No.4864312

Later TRS-80s were better, but the Model I really did earn the appellation "Trash-80".

>> No.4864818

>>4862859
There are reasons why it was called the trash-80 -- bad overall quality.
>>4863934
>You'd need a proper 16-bit CPU to match that kind of speed.
No. Only one of the two Z80 was used as the main CPU, the other was the sound CPU, only controlling the audio chips.