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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4856013

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1528/27/1528276019025.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/









>> No.4860760

=== NEWS ===

[06-24] nuts.wad ported to PSX Doom

[06-24] PSX Doom modification possible, ongoing project to put more IWAD maps back into the game

[06-24] New Arcane Dimensions map: Grendel's Blade

[06-22] Quake's 22nd birthday!

[06-22] BloodGDX co-op play test preview

[06-21] GZDoom 3.4.1 released, fixing bugs

[06-21] Quake2XP receives an update

[06-20] v0.2 of 'Zrift-Chasm' released, a partial GZDoom conversion of Chasm: The Rift

[06-20] LegenDoom 2.1 released, adding 30 weapon effects per tier

[06-18] Hellshots Golf updated, now with seven maps

[06-17] PSX Doom SFX remaster project in the works

[06-17] Cola 3 now with HacX 1.2 support

[06-16] Zombie Jam 2 released for Quake

[06-11] F2P 'trial' week of Quake Champions extended until the 25th

[06-11] E3: Bethesda announces Doom Eternal, a direct sequel to the 2016 game

[06-10] Colorful Hell's second beta

=== PREVIOUS ===


=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply to this post.

>> No.4860769
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First for crying Imptan.

>> No.4860772

Oh, where'd this come from?

>> No.4860786

Got it from the /vr/doom booru.

>> No.4860856

so I'm trying to get into thief, bought the gold version off steam some time ago and it seems really cool, but the controls and the interface are fucking horrid.

is there a sourceport or something I can try to smooth it out a little bit? not that it's unplayable but it feels clunky and there's a bug with sprinting that gets really tiring really quickly.

>> No.4860901

When does the full version of Brutal Doom v21 come out?

>> No.4860904

who knows

>> No.4860906

somebody needs to put the doomguy mugshot on this

>> No.4860913

Whats the worst thing about your favorite wad?

What's the best thing about your least favorite wad?

>> No.4860917

What's the difference between the full version and the beta version?

>> No.4860918
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Golden Souls 2 releases in 3 days

>> No.4860919

What would have happened if Romero stayed at Id after Quake 1?

>> No.4860920

Fuck map10 of Plutonia. Seriously, how am I supposed to pass that trap at the end when pistolstarting?

>> No.4860930

Id would be sold to Eidos and wouldn't exist by early 2000s.

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>> No.4860950

Who cares?

>> No.4860953

He does, else he would not have asked.

>> No.4860957
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I swear to myself that if i finish this map within this week, this will be the map that i made in the least time ever.

>> No.4860960
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I meant BESIDES him! DUH!

>> No.4860961

That looks dope as fuck.

>> No.4860963

That statue on the left got a thicc ass. I want to slam that braphog.

>> No.4860964

That's Crash.

>> No.4860989

You know, anywhere i got but here people usually wonder if there was a Doomgirl or something because Crash is completely unknown to them, unlike here that everyone want to smash her.

>> No.4860998

>unlike here that everyone want to smash her
except for sorfags :^)

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>> No.4861021

>HD Textures

>> No.4861024

yeah, that's pretty much my reaction

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Like this?

>> No.4861045

I want to get some fireblu in a bowl and eat it like Trix yogurt. It looks delicious.

>> No.4861048

tastes like hell

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>> No.4861106

when it's done™

>> No.4861121

What's the diffrence betwen q1 advanved movement and hl/gs advanced movement?

>> No.4861125

Different math, some things are fixed, some things work differently.

>> No.4861130
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What are some good DooM2 Mods that utilize weapons, monsters and taunting from Duke Nukem? I tried DukeItOut for 3DGE, but the darned program kept crashing on my puny Win 10!

>> No.4861136
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Okay spent these last 3 hours finishing up the roof and stuff for the base so now i can focus in making the lanes.

>> No.4861146

Carmack would have quit for Epic eventually

>> No.4861150

Samsara has Duke spouting one liners, Duke HUD, and the weapons but no monsters from Duke.

>> No.4861158
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Downloaded Quake and first time playing it.Having a blast with it!What are you anons playing/modding?

>> No.4861159

Alfonzone is the shit. 'Cept for the third episode, fuck that gay shit.

>> No.4861169

I'm playing through the Hellebarde wad with the Dakka weapons mod. I love that weapon mod, that shit is so dope.

>> No.4861172 [SPOILER] 
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more and more sprites for her with outfits progressing

>> No.4861180

There is also this:

>> No.4861181

Struggle: Anteresian Legacy RC1 released

Guncaster updated to 3.0

>> No.4861186

Was the context behind FIREBLU ever explained?
I want Crash to return so badly.

>> No.4861193

> end of the video
i need someone to post that pic titled 'bootyblaster'

>> No.4861195
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It's snowing imps!

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Its summer in Hell!

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lets talk about some blood

Am i the only one who fucking hate post mortem episode?

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Have this one too

>> No.4861206

I played Grendel's Blade yesterday, that shit was amazing. sock isn't known for making frenetic encounters but this map showed that he's really good at it.

My current top 3 for sock's maps, in no order:
Grendel's Blade
Metal Monstrosity
Fallen from Grace

>> No.4861207

So who is the canon route?

>> No.4861212

why did bad dragon become black dragon

>> No.4861214
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So what do you think of the latest Guncaster update?Personally I loved it.

>> No.4861226

looking fantastic, keep up the great work

>> No.4861232
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I uh... it might be hard to see the golf ball on this map, oops. also I think the map-wide snow is going to kill toasters, crap

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Sorry, I had to

>> No.4861236

Should a really weak toaster run GZDoom in OpenGL or software mode? Also in software mode I had this weird problem with the skies where everything had that smear effect, hard to explain. Like those memes where they used paint to stretch out someone's face like it's long.

>> No.4861240

It's horrible, thank you

>> No.4861241

i'm really liking barrel throwing so far
it's a simple and effective addition

>> No.4861245

So that golf wad is being expanded? Fantastic!

>> No.4861247

Term's letting people make maps for it so I wanted to give it a shot!

>> No.4861251 [DELETED] 

>hiding the doom general just right

>> No.4861253

She's crying because her husband was the victim of a brutal arsefucking known as impse.

>> No.4861259
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>> No.4861261

software mode is very taxing on a CPU and opengl is very light on GPU so you should stick to opengl on a toaster if it supports it

you can also configure hardware renderer so it doesn't filter texture and doesn't bend enemy textures when you look at them from higher ground, just like software renderer

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>> No.4861272

Thanks man. I thought software was for weak computers. I'll use openGL in that case. I can't quite get the really rough and grainy look I like even with texture filtering off so I'll try out that retroshade mod.

>> No.4861287
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How do you get better performance on AD maps like the Forgotten Sepulcher? My computer can max out [insert modern game here] and still becomes a stuttery mess when playing maps like that.

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>> No.4861306

Only level of Blood I remember hating is that shitty mountain one in Cryptic Passage.
It's been a while since I played Post Mortem though. What about it pissed you off?

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>lets talk about some blood
Ah blood the game that i cant run on my pc without the music rapping my ears

>> No.4861334

Finally managed to reach the Pharaoh level by my own for the first time in TNT
And even finished it, without facing that bug

>> No.4861335

This mod is literally more overpowered than Russian Overkill. Which mod to use it with?

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>> No.4861338

Colorfull Hell?

>> No.4861340

the update added sliders for player and enemy damage
and there SHOULD be an update for DRLA monsters, which the mod is going to support, going by the forum post

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>> No.4861358

I must have missed a lot of updates, weren't they still accepting levels for the wad only a month ago?

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>> No.4861362
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playing that hellebarde map some anon mentioned with the shades of doom mod set to sword & board forced theme and it feels pretty good

>> No.4861369

scalesona isn't a word

>> No.4861372

I'm not recognizing fursona as a real word either, but here we are.

>> No.4861375

What's the best program for making maps? I need something to do in between job applications

>> No.4861378

How big do you think Guncaster's "gun" is?

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post enemies who are you

>> No.4861383
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>> No.4861398

yes... YES
i can't fucking wait

>> No.4861406

damn yall are some thirsty bastards

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>> No.4861417

Individuals don't decide what are and aren't words.

>> No.4861421
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How do I make winquake play music? Tried to tutorial posted on GoG forums to no avail.

>> No.4861428

sorlag should be changed to slash and it's accurate

>> No.4861431

No. Sorlag is the best waifu in the game.

>> No.4861434

yeah but slash and nyx are sluts and ranger is a married man

>> No.4861448

Yes, and?

>> No.4861462

Hey, anyone know of any good or bad zdoom wads that have like fucktons of weapons? I'm looking for stuff like AEoD, HXRTC, Insanity Doom (The old skulltag mod) and so on.

>> No.4861470

russian overkill.

>> No.4861473

I have a toaster and prboom+ runs miles better but no mods

>> No.4861475

Played the fuck out of that for like a year. It's fun.

>> No.4861480

I also discovered secrets i never even expected to find in TNT

>> No.4861502

For some reason prboom+ like to stutter for me. glboom+ works fine for some reason, but I prefer the look of prboom's software rendering.

>> No.4861521

> there is actual porn of it on FA
and it's of the newly dark mode thing, but the pics are months old

>> No.4861530

How do you all feel about a wad where instead of healing items scattered around there's carefully placed healing stations throughout the map kinda like the Marathon games? I kinda want to give it a try. Are there any wads out there that do that?

>> No.4861539

I think it depends on the type of wad. If it's a linear level, it wouldn't have much of a place besides the obligatory pre-boss rest area. If it's an area with shittons of backtracking though, like Thunpeak, it'd be great.

>> No.4861542

There is no such an update, sadly. And I doubt there ever will be. Not until Zandro gets eventually merged with GZDoom.

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>> No.4861552

All I could find was just 2 images that were porn.
But imagine how deep it is:
Porn of an OC from a Doom mod.

>> No.4861563

>rapping my ears

>> No.4861572
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dont bully me

>> No.4861575

there's also that alien moth lady from booty that robotjoe made

porn of an oc from a doom tc/standalone game that's only in early stages of development

we'll bully you like you were a cacodemon and we had super shotguns

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>> No.4861603

>huhuhuhu ghuhuhuhu

>> No.4861628

...Doomguy is fisting a Caco.

>> No.4861634


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Be honest, do you think Pillowblaster's work is good?

>> No.4861659

>"Quake 1.1 community patch"
>start game
>the fucking thing somehow replaced my winquake with darkplaces
the levels' lighting is actually pretty darn atmospheric

>> No.4861662
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you can do this with Quakespasm and Reshade

>> No.4861665

God no.

>> No.4861669
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Yes and no. I appreciate a big flying dragon shooting big guns but designing mods around (((fun))) over gameplay will always lead into gameplay that that is fun as a novelty but won't carry in the long run.

This flawed attitude has been a major crux over almost every major Doom gameplay overhaul.

>> No.4861670

Is this supposed to look good?

>> No.4861685

They're fun to plow through slaughterwads

>> No.4861709

some kinda viewdistance cvar that caps the distance that things will be drawn, I have to use it and set it real damn close (like 800 units) to be able to run almost anything in AD but I plod along with it like that okay enough (read: almost never sees the skies in maps). At the viewdistance it turns into a gray background. So you might wanna try that out.

>> No.4861727 [DELETED] 

Do you know what the cvar is, exactly?

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Lately ive only been playing Blood because I never played it before. I killed Tcernobog and now im on another episode, so that doesnt make too much sense. Ive got too much ammo for everything and im still killing everything, and infighting isnt even a meme in this game really.

Ive got a doom mod thats took apart like something smashed on a workbench and im not really interested in playing doom stuff until I get it in some shade of working order, and I havent even touched it in a couple weeks.

Arcane Dimensions has gotten real old for me even though I havent beaten all the levels (especially that snow level). Somehow with their being a catastrophic number of secrets in some of the maps I think this was to help with replayability but it had the exact opposite effect on me - with them being so hard to find I dont even want to bother with the rest and id just want to see some Wiki page with screenshots showing me where they all are.
> I tried QUMP and it basically sucked, the only map that really surprised me was Manchester's Leftovers.

Right now isnt a good time for games on my end pretty much. I should spend more time working on my p&p RPG system but mainly it seems im occupying myself with /pol/ while occasionally checking to see what gets plopped into doom general.

>> No.4861754

I only played TrailBlazer with CH

>> No.4861785

gl_farclip? I tried that, the frames don't change a bit on Forgotten Sepulcher.

>> No.4861786


I respect the amount of work he puts into things, and on a technical scale it's all quite pretty and well coded with lots of features and etc, etc.
But they're just not fun for me to play. If there's no challenge, it's boring. The beauty of Doom's gameplay isn't just with the weapons, it's how the enemies come together to form interesting encounters and dangers to the player. Being able to blow through it all in just a couple clicks is neat at first but gets very boring very quickly.

>> No.4861796

why am i getting some unfortunate implications from the new guncaster?
what with the dark mode thing looking like a rubber skin suit and an upgrade that lets you possess enemies

seems a little something something fuel

>> No.4861801


I think you're looking far too much into something.

>> No.4861806 [SPOILER] 
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Hmm... There's something strange about this post...

>> No.4861813

Maybe better. Romero must've really brought some magic because after he left all of id's games sucked until Doom 2016

>> No.4861816

Well you are playing a hunky dragondude

>> No.4861817

>I killed Tcernobog and now im on another episode, so that doesnt make too much sense. Ive got too much ammo for everything and im still killing everything, and infighting isnt even a meme in this game really.
How did that happen? It's supposed to end after the battle against Tchernoborg. Did it go straight to one of the expansion packs? They're supposed to be played separately.

>> No.4861818

Quake 2, 3, 4 and Rage are fantastic though. Meanwhile Romero went on to make Daikatana.

>> No.4861820

looks smeared in oil

>> No.4861826

Rage is shit. It is only half of a game and there are like 3 enemy archetypes total (aside from DLC). Car shit only serves as means of getting from one linear level to the next. Levels circle in on themselves Bethesda-style.

>> No.4861829

and we learned that he did that because Carmack gave him idtech2, and we all know how the old idtech2 sucked it

it depends of what you want on Reshade, id be glad if someone could do a grimy preset

>> No.4861847

Yeah the mission ended and I had to start a new game. Was saying that I started a new game on the mission following that.

>> No.4861858

I’ve played through Doom 1 and Doom 2after like 15 years.

Boy, the leveldesign in this game is so bad. Atrociously bad. Sandy Petersen is a fucking joke, all his level are awful.

Romero is ok, but the maps use very little variety. KDITD is just one long level with different map names.

>> No.4861862

I know right? Fans have made infinitely better levels than the creators themselves before the new millenium even hit.

>> No.4861864

let's see you do better champ

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>> No.4861871

i hate when people say this
because they arent even accomplished level designers
yet theyre patting themselves on the back for being part of the "community" that has allegedly far surpassed id's work
when in reality id's work still holds up today and only a small percentage of level designers have surpassed it

>> No.4861873

>38 Arch-viles
>52 Revenants
>30 Barons of Hell
>9 Cyberdemons
>on the lowest skill

Yea, “better” levels.

>> No.4861889

>because they arent even accomplished level designers
I didn't say I was nor is it required.
>yet theyre patting themselves on the back for being part of the "community"
No I'm not, way to be an aggressive jackass assuming things that aren't there at all. What's wrong with you? Is it because I said a mean thing about id that you have to make things up to argue about and attempt to discredit someone?
>when in reality id's work still holds up today and only a small percentage of level designers have surpassed it
Oh please, this general shits on Doom 2 every day of the week, do you honestly think only a few people have surpassed that? When people talk about playing a Doom map here it's almost always a fanmade wad, rarely do they play the originals.
Number of monsters doesn't magically make a level bad nor does your scenario apply to most fanmade maps ever. Most famous wads aren't even considered particularly hard, just harder than the originals but nothing even remotely impossible. Even Hell Revealed which was considered hard back then is now a walk in the park.

>> No.4861891

does anyone use freedoom as their default iwad?

>> No.4861894

Sunlust has plenty more than that and it's still one of the best megawads in recent years.

>> No.4861917

>best megawad in years
>some generic slaughtershit with Unreal-tier nonsense aesthetics

>> No.4861919

>generic slaughtershit

Confirmed for not having played Sunlust.

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>> No.4861932

I actually use glboom+

>> No.4861938
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Man, I've never seen this complaint about doom 2 before

>> No.4861947

There is no challenge, unless you really, REALLY try. And that's just no good.

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she summer ready now

>> No.4861954

ment to quote >>4861172


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Maybe we have different definitions for "generic slaughtershit". Having big central areas for trial and erroring the correct sequences isn't fun and most time even properly challenging. It's just a tiresome timesink that ignores entirely the game's exploration aspects.

Also tedious pixelhunt secrets that are harder to find than glitching/falling outside the playable areas in the maps.

Shit taste: the post

>> No.4861959

Looks like Kathy Griffin's been hitting the weights pretty hard.

>> No.4861960

I do not come to /doom/ for boners

>> No.4861961

the speed at which you are able to churn out these new sprites is continuously impressive.

>> No.4861963

>Unreal-tier nonsense aesthetics
What did he mean by this?

>> No.4861964

>No I'm not, way to be an aggressive jackass assuming things that aren't there at all. What's wrong with you? Is it because I said a mean thing about id that you have to make things up to argue about and attempt to discredit someone?
It's the subtext
>Oh please, this general shits on Doom 2 every day of the week, do you honestly think only a few people have surpassed that? When people talk about playing a Doom map here it's almost always a fanmade wad, rarely do they play the originals.
I was referring to doom 1
And yes, few people have made levels as fun to play
And VERY few have made entire megawads of comparable quality

>> No.4861967
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No. The boners come for you.

>> No.4861969
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Levels that look like generic scifi mixed with overdesigned aesthetics for aesthetics' sake.

>> No.4861970

We have different preferences then. I find Sunlust and pretty much the entire output of Ribbiks and Danne to be very interesting. I unironically love Italo Doom for how stupid it looks at a first glance, but most of the map are actually pretty clever and require some devious strategies to succeed. Generic slaughtershit to me is 99% of slaughterfest maps or crap like Chillax or Holy Hell that are completely mindless and don't try to be creative at all.

>> No.4861971
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>spending time on silly decorative stuff instead of working on map geometry

>> No.4861972

So, in other words, fucking amazing?

>> No.4861973

don't bully the penguin

>> No.4861976

What wad is that?

>> No.4861978

I don't see how Unreal is overdesigned at all. Or generic scifi.

>> No.4861985

map geometry is for nerds

>> No.4861986

>aesthetics for aesthetics' sake
as opposed to what?
i've seen a lot of nigger-tier complaints but "it looks too pretty!" is probably the niggest

>> No.4861995

you're the cancer killing modern graphic design

>> No.4861997

No penguins were harmed in the making of this map so far
It's a map I'm working on for Term's Golf mod thing.

>> No.4862005

For one, I can't wait for that day.
Those fucking penguins deserve it. I can't count how many times those fuckers made me go in a pit.
I hope no one makes a Plutonia slaughterfest megawad.

>> No.4862010
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>> No.4862014

It's a valid complaint when the only thing your map has for it is pretty visuals. Thankfully it's not the case for Sunlust.

>> No.4862015

In terms of sprites,gunplay and content,yes absolutely. They're mainly mindless fun.
In terms of gameplay,they tend to get boring because you're way too OP.

>> No.4862019

okay in scenarios like that, yeah, i can see it
a lot of torm's shit falls under that umbrella

>> No.4862020
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I can actually feel myself getting better at mapping, after so many long and tedious years.
Shame that it's only really showing through with golf, but improvement is improvement so I'm happy either way.

>> No.4862021

I play Doom for Brutalism aesthetic

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>> No.4862026
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'Nother shot.

>> No.4862030

You could literally take any part of original Unreal and slap it into any other generic scifi action game and nobody would know better.

You are stupid fucking mongrel to think that Unreal had good aesthetics or that it wasn't one of the original instigators of the garbage scifi design singularity.

>> No.4862031
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I can tolerate a slaughterfest only if the map tries to be fair.
Like give me the right amount of ammo.
Don't abuse of high tier enemies on the early maps,save them for later.
Put as many monster closets as possible whenever you get a key.

>> No.4862034
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don't you know this? c.kid of doom d-radys

>> No.4862035

You are a stupid fucking mongrel to think that Unreal had terrible aesthetics or that Doom wasn't one of the original instigators of the garbage scifi design singularity.

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>> No.4862040

Oh damn, the map looks moody and cool with that slight lighting change. it also looks gorier than I remember.

>> No.4862041

Can't say I've heard of it.

>> No.4862052
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It... it's too generic scifi... I can't...handle it

>> No.4862062

>52 flares
I know I find flares useless, but geez.

>> No.4862080
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show me in the doomguy where unreal touched you

>> No.4862101

I'm having a hard time understanding his argument. The only parts of the game that could seem generic sci-fi are the Terraniux and the ISV-Kran, and these are not even 10% of the game.

>> No.4862107

UAC Ultra
Map 6 (?) "Skagway"
The slaughtermap part of it takes place in a damage environment so you have to move along sorta like a rail shooter since you got to reach the next rad suit. Alot of BFG action is required. Some mancubes and viles make sure that you cant simply run past everything.

>> No.4862109

I think he's bitter because for Unreal 20th anniversary they didn't do shit.So now he gets angry to the game because of it.

>> No.4862110
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>talking shit about Unreal
Carmack, what are you doing on 4chan?

>> No.4862113
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You just reminded me that I didn't finish UAC Ultra yet.

>> No.4862115

>poor little demon girl

>> No.4862119

Trailblazer is pretty fun once you heavily tone down the damage the guns do to a more reasonable level.

>> No.4862124
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Lithium in the Japanese community project maps, This map is particularly nice, I didn't realize it was a comic until I randomly hit tab during a fight. It also has a bathroom jumpscare that is really well constructed with the walls peeling down and revealing the hellish textures before releasing monsters previously locked into a mirror.

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>> No.4862131
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We all love Crash, but the true Id waifu is Slash

Probably because she moans sexually whenever she takes damage.

Ah yes, manchild videogame character design has a real effect on you when youre an actual child playing Q3

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>> No.4862140

So BB Hood but bad?

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very. both of them.

>> No.4862146

No explosives? damn

>> No.4862148
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>true Id waifu is Slash

>> No.4862153

I liked Huntress more
I need her on QC yesterday
Also great pic

>> No.4862168
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The bumpties now bounce.

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most likely she hasnt been added in because the new engine cant handle this level of booty

>> No.4862176

you're a monster

>> No.4862195

you sick fuck

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>> No.4862202

I can't make mxao work with this shit apparently

>> No.4862204

>not fighting against the bumpty menace
Do you guys not recall how those murderous little bastards happily push you off ledges in SMW2?

Now THIS? This is cold blooded.

>> No.4862214

Q3's Hunter and Mortal Kombat's Jade gave me the strongest boners.

>> No.4862218

why jade in particular

>> No.4862219
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Mxao and some effects doesn't work it, but then i think that is QSpam itself who doesn't support it

meanwhile, this game here recognized every shit from Reshade dx11 itself

>> No.4862221

Is Final Doom worth playing? What about master levels for Doom 2?

>> No.4862223

When the series went 3D, she got the best/sexiest outfits.

>> No.4862226

>Do you guys not recall how those murderous little bastards happily push you off ledges in SMW2?
They also steal and try to run off with Mario if you lose him.

>> No.4862228

Yes. No.

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>> No.4862237

>Habitat expected you to go through a wall in a room to get the blue key

>> No.4862245

what a fraud

>> No.4862256


>> No.4862257
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>actors bouncing on a 3d sector use the angle of any slope below it

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anon even fighters anthology works with Dgvoodoo2 + reshade

>> No.4862262
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You can bring Any old DDraw game back to life with DgVoodoo2 and Resahde if they support modern windows compatibility modes

Minus Mechwarrior 2 Pentium and 3dFX versions, that game is Bonkers and hates Windows

>> No.4862263

No 3D-floor golf for you.

At least not without some fuckery.

>> No.4862269

>or that it wasn't one of the original instigators of the garbage scifi design singularity.

Unreal wasn't a greeble orgy until UT3, so...?

>> No.4862273

>chromatic aberration filter

I see everyone is mimicking Shadman in one way or another now.

>> No.4862276

It's pretty damn upsetting how much this mod shows how archaic and buggy (G)ZDoom's physics code is.
Devs have made so much progress implementing new things yet stupid crap like that still exists.

>> No.4862283

that is because Doom source port devs HATES each other, unlike quake community devs.

>> No.4862286

What a shit artist to mimic. The state of /ic/ is in decline, but i cant say much better about /vr/.

>> No.4862287

I want to see Satania get gangbanged by big muscled doomguys.

>> No.4862289

You might be able to get around it by having the upper level of the map built elsewhere, and then linking the two halves with a sector set floor/ceiling portal.

Test on something small for proof of concept.

>> No.4862294
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So long as you have A) an edgy image or B) a connection to fairly popular youtubers you can be a popular lewd artist regardless of ability or attitudes. Who cares if you're a literal pedophile or a fencewalker who keeps drawing porn of people's characters after their owner is declared missing.

>> No.4862301

Final Doom is pretty good, TNT gets a little weak by the end, but overall is actually kinda good.
Master Levels is a mixed bag of mediocrity, I don't think they're especially worthwhile.

>> No.4862308

Baron's Den/Lair I think did that too.

As much as I love TNT for its music and atmosphere, many of the later maps are just abysmal. Habitat is by far the worst of the set, it looks like it was downloaded off some BBS on random.

>> No.4862309
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don't call him bad

>> No.4862314

That's actually a pretty cool idea, I'll have to read up and learn how to make stacked sectors. I sure hope it's Zandro compatible!

>> No.4862332

Am I the only one who think Revenants and Arch Viles shouldn't exist? Terrible aesthetics and not fit to the rest of the game, both play terrible and unfun to fight with.

>> No.4862339

That's why I love them so much, having a single archvile in a fight can change the entire dynamic of it, and revenants, when used correctly, can add a lot to an encounter, they just suck when people spam them

>> No.4862341


Take a rest and play DOOM tomorrow.

>> No.4862343

>Terrible aesthetics
Hell in Doom works better when its an abstract clusterfuck of elements, from a technical point to the amount of textures and sprites to the story surrounding it
A tall skeleton with shoulder rockets and alienoid wizard with tubes in his mouth only makes this vision of hell even better
>both play terrible and unfun to fight with.
They still have specific rolls to fit in, gameplay wise

>> No.4862345

They're my favourite enemies and especially the vile spices things up, they're not as generic and straightforward as the first Doom enemies.

>> No.4862347
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I think Archviles should be Revenants, they have the stature to deliver the swings and if they fired homing fireballs like the nitrogolems from heretic they would fit the role of revenants perfectly. Their white skin aesthetic would also be creepy to encounter in large numbers like this.

Meanwhile the Revenants should be Archviles, just remove the armor jacket and give them more reddish/black necromancy style power effects. Run around raising monsters from the dead and blinking-red-fire cursing the player.

>> No.4862358
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I just bought Douk World Tour and I have some questions:

Besides >GEARBOX and LOLNOEXPANSIONS, what's the difference between this and Megaton Edition?

How do I upload custom maps with custom music to the workshop? I uploaded the Roch Saga and some custom maps, but with no custom music

Can I mod this version with DN64 skins like Megaton Edition?

Is the new episode good or bad?

>> No.4862361

Just a bunch of ugly post processing effects and dook lines

>> No.4862362


I've seen this artist's works and they look different from this one. It just happens to resemble mr nazi skeleton.

>> No.4862368

I could have sex with B.B Hood.

>> No.4862369

Duke says "Bazinga" in that version.
That's all you need to know to stay the hell away.

>> No.4862370

with zscript you can solve all those slope physics/3d floors issues easily.

>> No.4862374
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Who was the guy who was posting the screens with the blurred out HUD face everyone was getting mad at? What was that all about anyway?

>> No.4862375

A repeat offender.

>> No.4862383

Aaaaand it seems Interactive floor/ceiling portals aren't in Zandronum yet.

>> No.4862390
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They're absolutely unconventional compared to the rest of the monsters, and completely fucking change any battle they're added in, because you have to account for their unique behaviors. The Arch-Vile especially, as he makes himself among the highest priority of your targets, as he's so fast and dangerous on his own, and also because he can undo any killing you've done nearby, killing him can be a race against time, to avoid getting fucked.

I love the challenge and complexity they add to the game, and I love their spooky aesthetics. The Arch-Vile STILL scares the shit out of me and makes me break out in sweat, he's just really effective; a dangerous monster that's really uncanny and disturbing, you just hear him laughing somewhere in the dark, and you know it's just a matter of time before you have to face him, dreading getting stuck in a bad place with him.

>> No.4862391

What if you make the 3d floor a 3d slope? Even if it doesn't actually slope

>> No.4862393

>Make modders have to gross-hack workaround what's inherently wrong with the engine
Please, no!

>> No.4862397

I never played PSX Doom. is that actual PSX Doom music?

>> No.4862403

Honestly, that doesn't actually detract enough from the new episode, they got Blum and Levellord to make the maps for it, and they're honestly really good.

Pirate them if you want, I think they're worth playing.

>> No.4862405
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>I tried QUMP and it basically sucked, the only map that really surprised me was Manchester's Leftovers.

>> No.4862406

Which one, the nuts video? That's from the super secret Club Doom level.
The rest of the Playstation version's soundtrack is pretty much all extremely samey atmospheric tracks with no melody or variation.

>> No.4862410

>post processing
It has normal maps and dynamic lights, that's not post processing.
The rerecorded lines aren't great (mostly because the original are so perfect), but you can turn them off on the original episodes.

The new episode forces the rerecorded lines, but that's to be consistent with the new lines in that episode.

>> No.4862415

>The Special Edition of Quake Champions will have a statue but it's from a literal who which is also a newcomer
>Not even Ranger can get its own memorabilia statue in one of his own games.

Goddamn Ranger had a hard life.

>> No.4862417

>>The Special Edition of Quake Champions will have a statue but it's from a literal who which is also a newcomer

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>> I tried QUMP and it basically sucked, the only map that really surprised me was Manchester's Leftovers.

what did you fucking expected?, it's a map pack made for first timers

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>> No.4862424
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As far as bounce physics are concerned, 3D sectors don't exist.

>> No.4862425


Scalebearer, some biglarge mchuge dude

>> No.4862427
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It's called the Quake Upstart Mapping Project for a reason anon. They were fun maps regardless, but that's just my opinion.

>> No.4862428

Not even Not-Mynx?

>> No.4862429

Anon, the engine gives actors access to all the level geometry data they need for this. The only thing that isn't updated is how the projectiles use that data. My zscript bouncy projectiles are also orders of magnitude more efficient than the base projectile code.

>> No.4862430

I didn't know about this. That's amazing, even better than Serious Sam's TSE secret club or whatever that is in the first level

>> No.4862435

is there a "remastered" quake 1 campaing?

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holy fuck

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>> No.4862443

Freedoom any good? I watched some gameplay and the status bar portrait looked like Bud Bundy from Married With Children.

>> No.4862445

the tracks do have some variation to them or different degrees of horror they're going for. there's computer warbling, buzzing, and a myriad of other sounds. dark ambient isn't supposed to be exactly diverse anyways, there's only so many spooky sounds you can cram into a track to spice it up. the PSX OST works perfectly.

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>> No.4862456

But will it ever get an implementation to the actual engine? Otherwise people have to mod in the fixes like it was some Bethesda game.
Doesn't matter in this case anyway as it's not Zandro compat

>> No.4862457

Basically there's a program called ReShade, which allows you to apply all sorts of interesting graphical enhancements and filters to old games that usually don't support it.

>> No.4862459

But he is

>> No.4862465

If you're loading up Trailblazer with a megaWAD like Momento Mori then you got the wrong idea

>> No.4862469

You know FastProjectile right? In GZDoom, their movement isn't "in the actual engine" at all. It's all zscript, as defined in gzdoom.pk3. You're talking about hard coded stuff, which isn't something you should even desire!

Now a native FancyProjectile class could be a worthwhile thing. I think you might eventually see one as modders working on projectile physics work out better and better solutions - all it'd take is for one to be included in the base pk3 as an actor to inherit from.

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>> No.4862474

I still think the slow tracks from the original game are much better.

>> No.4862475

I meant as a native class, yes.

>> No.4862476

They don't have melody but they do have variation. I can remember tracks based on what spooky sounds are sampled.

>> No.4862514

There are only a few remix maps, but no full campaign or episode.

>> No.4862523
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>> No.4862532

Is this a creepypasta?

>> No.4862538

Why would it need to be remastered?

>> No.4862540

more like its a certain someone trying to post filtered shit again

>> No.4862543

stop vagueposting and explain, faggot

>> No.4862557 [DELETED] 

S'arias, the real hero of the doom threads is making maps again

>> No.4862561


WTF? I hate Duke now!

>> No.4862575

yeah, pirate them. Randy doesn't deserve your money.

>> No.4862576

because it's the current year

>> No.4862583


>> No.4862585

I don't know if it's the right thread but might as well:

I'm playing through Powerslave on PC (DOS version), and I like the game very much.
I want to know the best way to avoid taking damage from fireballs that come out of the walls because they are raping my anus. I just died 5 or 6 times in a row after almost making it to the end of the level to run out of lives because of that. I quit in frustration.
Any help or advice would be appreciated

>> No.4862593

There's some fan addons for Samsara that add monsters from multiple represented games. Duke is one of them.

>> No.4862601

>Duke says "Bazinga" in that version.
No, he doesn't.

>> No.4862604

I thought people said this jokingly before it even came out.

>> No.4862610

there's quite literally a line in the game.

>> No.4862612

He does, anon.

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>no one has posted this yet

>> No.4862616

it's time to kick ass and fucking kill myself
and i'm all out of rope

>> No.4862623

>it's time to kick ass and not kill myself

>and i'm all out of hope

>> No.4862629

Regar4dless how good the new maps are or how bad the rerecorded lines are, we must settle this. The guy obviously recorded Bazinga but was it actually used? What part of what level is it, if not a random occurence. We must put this to rest

>> No.4862634

This insinuates that it's very unlikely anyone here bought the World Tour to begin with, which is very likely and really says something about Duke's reputation in this day and age.

>> No.4862657

somebody's gonna freakin pay for poofing up my tumblr meetup

>> No.4862668

This is really inaccurate. You should've said "hecking" instead of "freakin."

>> No.4862669

>somebody's gonna freakin pay
if you say so, carl

>> No.4862679

The level design is pretty damn good. Tough maps. I thoroughly enjoyed playing through it.

>> No.4862682

it don't matter.

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>> No.4862684

I've been playing it and I like it. The enemies are so surreal. Speaking of tough, I tried that Struggle: Antaresian Legacy and got my ass kicked. I dropped it down to the easiest difficulty and it's still tough. So much hit scan everywhere and it took me forever to figure out how to progress in the first level.

>> No.4862686

Nice. I played in crispy doom with no saves and it was a blast. Although in one of the later, longer maps I used a save right before a very cunty area

>> No.4862710

Petty shitflinging shouldn't prevent fixes to something. What childish bullshit.

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what, you DON'T have an over-the-shoulder floating stimpack that constantly spews a torrent of blood?

> a screaming skull is your only companion

the shit that comes out of testing is truly miraculous

>> No.4862735
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>all these secrets in KDITD

It almost feels like it's cheating when they give you multiple backpacks in 1 level with the biggest threat being imps.

>> No.4862740 [DELETED] 


Fucking stop holy shit. Your cryptic bullshit isn't spooking anyone, you're just pissing everyone off. Explanation or GTFO.

>> No.4862745

... you okay there?

>> No.4862756
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take ur meds

>> No.4862757


Are you all right, anon?

>> No.4862764

This HACX is some weird shit. I like it.

>> No.4862765
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need more c kid aka BB HOOD RIPOFF

>> No.4862767

who hurt you

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>Quake Champions has a giant robot mech character
>its an OC
>instead of tank jr

>> No.4862774
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>> No.4862778

> 5$ to shoot me in the face

>> No.4862779

What IS the deal with these weird blurry screenshots?

>> No.4862782


>I'll give you 50$ to fuck off

>> No.4862783

>the brand new nothing character gets a statue instead of doom, ranger, crash, BJ, or any character someone might care about

im really stressing myself to try and think of why the hell this choice was made

>> No.4862785

I always hold out backpacks for mid-episode to end levels. Maybe a harder secret before then.
They're criminally underrated. Too many wads just toss them at you.

>> No.4862803

brown bricks

>> No.4862806

male prostitution mod when?

term get on it

>> No.4862807


I can sorta understand if it's meant to be pistol started but even then having more than 1 per level without high tier enemies strutting about is just excessive. Double ammo and some of each is a lot better than people give it credit for.

>> No.4862815

If there's anything worth playing out of those, it's Plutonia.

>> No.4862846

Why is Thy Flesh Consumed so much worse than the first three episodes?

>> No.4862850

It's a line that was recorded, but it's not actually used anywhere in the game itself.

>> No.4862857

Because it was made in a rush?

>> No.4862861

I think he says it in like the first level of AWO.

>> No.4862864

Why is it the second best episode in doom?
A couple of really tight memorable maps a couple of eh ones is better than mostly eh ones and one or two good ones.

>> No.4862870

I think Ancient Aliens is the most "aesthetic for aesthetic's sake" megaWAD I know. God that was such babby's first psychdelic trip

>> No.4862890

Do you have to be so mean?

>> No.4862891

I enjoyed playing it. It had good gameplay and the visuals were refreshing and vibrant.

>> No.4862908
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Are there any mods that have ever provided a reasonable incentive for the player to use the pistol every once in awhile? Are there even any old shcool shooters that do that? I cant think of one where you dont pretty much abandon your starter weapon after the first quarter of the game

>> No.4862912

half life

>> No.4862914

Dakka's pistols are really good and are totally viable. Not the shitty peashooters you generally get in most mods. High Noon Drifter's revolver is also good.

>> No.4862917

Honestly, despite everything I make offering an infinite ammo starter weapon, I don't really provide a good reason to use it other than having infinite ammo.
I guess the real question is what sorta incentive could be offered to make using a starting weapon better? Restore HP? Give ammo for other weapons? Stun dudes?

>> No.4862923

only when under water really, unless youre counting the revolver which is basically a primary

I always felt that it would have made more sense in doom 4 for pistol kills to give ammo and health rather than glory/ chainsaw kills. I mean, I definitely dont need any additional reasons to use the chainsaw

>> No.4862927
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The Final Doomer page at the zdoom forum has a couple of the status bars from it as standalone downloads but there isn't one on there for the Ancient Aliens bar. If that exists does anyone have it?

>> No.4862930

a slow firing, accurate, high power revolver that needs reloading and isn't fast at doing so
make the automatic incapable of sniping
now you can slam early enemies with a single shot, but it struggles against larger groups and it doesn't get outclassed in sniping by the other weapons

>> No.4862934

So would it still use bullets, or have its own ammo supply?

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>> No.4862987

Backpacks are the most overpowered item in the game, if you ask me. Doubling the player's carrying capacity annihilates ammo balance in continuous playthroughs.

>> No.4862994
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>play doom
>go to options menu
>scroll down to double ammo pickups

>> No.4862996
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I think they're ultimately a novelty, seemingly suffer from the same feature creep other mods fall victim to, simply being full of many little things you'll likely never bother with because you can murder just fine with the one option you've committed to, which I think holds back these kinds of mods to simpler ones. You can definitely try and balance the table with other monster packs but then it ends up being something like the Doom equivalent of MH Frontier with ridiculous power creep on both ends. At least with something like DRLA, all that player power is something you have to figure out how to get and the player has some imposed limitations.

While RO is rather inconsistent with visual design between weapons, the overall production value of Guncaster and Trailblazer is really what sets them apart from the other clusterfuck mods that throw a lot of things at you, overall looking a lot more consistent graphically and technically impressive. But both also feel like that they should have their own total conversion and set of enemies designed around them.

I would personally like to see more toned-down versions of the two with the power more reigned-in, still keeping in core features but trimming the fat. There's no keeping it to Doom levels of power with the concept behind Pillowblaster stuff, but with some tweaking there's plenty of monster mods around now to keep close to.

Final Doomer has a few sets with a decent pistol on each, infinite ammo is optional. Plutoniaguy's revolver is nice, and JPCP's guy silenced pistol can be used to cheese on some maps while standing as his only real hitscan weapon.

>> No.4863010

Make the starting weapon weak but great for sniping (and the chaingun less accurate to compensate)

>> No.4863032

I think it's ok for a starter weapon to be sorta ass
>I always felt that it would have made more sense in doom 4 for pistol kills to give ammo and health rather than glory/ chainsaw kills.
That makes no sense though

>> No.4863040

I didin't buy it because Pitchford removed Megaton from Steam, which I already had, and shut down development of Duke collection TerminX was working on.

I did play it, however, and it is mediocre
I don't remember hearing him say "bazinga" at any point, however the re-recorded lines sound tired and uninspired. You can switch to the old voice, but obviously that does not work in case of World-Tour specific lines which makes the inconsistency of the voice rather grating.

Mods: DAKKA pistols are good. HND revolver isn't that strong, but can be rapidfired to kill a couple of imps quick, also special attack. I don't play all that many mods recently so I don't remember much else.

Unreal's Dispersion pistol is done very well in that regard: It's a bit stronger than pistol, but fires projectiles instead of hitscan - good for short range. Can be charged for more burst damage for ambush or dealingwith turret enemies, ammo aren't infinite but regenerates, and the less you have the faster they regen. Can be upgraded to the point where it rivals the power of rocket launcher, at the expense of increased ammo drain and slower projectile speed.

Blood : flare gun (especially its altfire) works well for putting down zombies for good - no chance of them rising back after being burned.

Hexen, wizards wand is useful in case of centaurs due to its piercing capabilities.

Quake: some people use shotgun for snipinig due to relatively low spread and fast fire rate.

>> No.4863042

nuDoom's HP/Ammo pinatas make no sense either

>> No.4863043

hideous destructor (lets be honest though you will resort to anything playing HD)

>> No.4863045

>some people
Q1's shotgun is always useful because aside from the Thunderbolt (whose ammo is often in real short supply and whose parent gun often isn't even in the map), the shotguns are your only hitscan damage dealers and the SSG's spread becomes near unusable past just a couple feet.

>> No.4863047

It's just a dumb idea gameplay wise. Constantly switching to this dinky ass weapon for drops. Glory kills complement the dance, so does the chainsaw. The pistol shit would just feel bad.

>> No.4863049

they keep you in the fight and enforce targeting on weaker targets for supplies in the heat of battle.

>> No.4863050

You just perfectly described High Noon Drifter.

>> No.4863068

Why so angry?

>> No.4863069

Are there any fan maps like Ziggurat Vertigo with cool gravity shit?

>> No.4863073

HND also has that sick ass whip.

>> No.4863080

>Glory kills complement the dance
more like they interrupt the dance so you can run over to that enemy before he stops glowing. Not all of doom 4s combat takes place at close range and theres no way to predict when a stagger state will be triggered

>> No.4863081

you don't have to go for it every time y'know

>> No.4863085

I said that about enemy pinatas in general, no matter pistol based or melee-based. This shows nu-ids non-commitment to the oldschool FPS design they boasted at conferences.
Sure they do place ammo and weapons on the fighting arena, but what if you run out of ammo/medkits?
Oldschool FPS: tough tits, should've been better at using your resources
nuDoom: here dude, melee an enemy and get refills

>> No.4863090

No light pass yet, right? Will look great once that's done.

>> No.4863096

That's whatever, not the original thing I wanted to point out. Pistol "glory kills" would just be terrible design.

>> No.4863097
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Anyone has a link to the yank that was streaming project brutality?

>> No.4863117

what is this mod? is she your assistant?

>> No.4863120

>c kid
what is mod?

>> No.4863123

I've seen you post the same screenshots of this guy before. And you didn't care to explain exactly what it was last time either. Just say the name of your mod if you want to post about it so much.

>> No.4863124

Doom Radys, it's an old mod and the creator is in the process of updating it.
It's fucking weird.

>> No.4863129

>find forum post about it on zdoom forums
>first reply is "Huh... so autism is a thing in Japan, too, I guess."

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I shouldn't have laughed.
But I did.

>> No.4863135

wildweasel didn't laugh- that's for sure!

>> No.4863136

What are the good sourceports for Quake 2?

>> No.4863143
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I don't undeerstand how to download this, I tried clicking anything and I can't seem to download it

>> No.4863145

weasels an obnoxious powertripping cunt. no wonder his handle is weasel.

>> No.4863147

just kiss already

>> No.4863149

yamagi q2

>> No.4863150

please tell me how to download doom randy.

>> No.4863154
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It's the button just under what you've got selected, my dude.

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thank you I never would've figure that out if it were not for you.

>> No.4863180

>Are there even any old shcool shooters that do that?
I think they all mostly use pistols, young and old.

>> No.4863185

it's almost like they're not literally remaking the exact same game 20 years later.

>> No.4863187
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>switch hunt becomes such a chore in a map that you no clip to the exit

I need to grab that eternal switch hunt image.

>> No.4863194

>every fps that had finite resources scattered around the map is exact same game

>> No.4863201
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32in24-15 is a treasure.

>> No.4863206

It's literally some of the best maps released by id, you fucking mongrel.
>inb4 "buh is so haaaaard ;_;"

>> No.4863214

Thanks for the image. I was playing Freedoom and was on mission 4 or 5 of episode 1. Maybe I'm just too tired to be playing but that switch hunt started getting on my nerves. I couldn't tolerate it anymore. Noclipped and strolled right on through to the exit.

>> No.4863221

If youre playing on nightmare you do

>> No.4863228

you have a hard time reading this often?

>> No.4863230

have you tried not getting hit
pretty sure I just ended up using a siege mode + remote det rocket combo on everything, worked out fine

>> No.4863234

Duke's pistol was great too before mouselook became the norm. If you turn on the autoaim, it's the best weapon for accurate long range shooting, especially against turrets.

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This Castlevania: Simon's Destiny is pretty cool. I'd never heard of this before.

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>I guess the real question is what sorta incentive could be offered to make using a starting weapon better? Restore HP? Give ammo for other weapons? Stun dudes?

this is the answer im liking best so far, possibly in addition reducing health and ammo drops in order to further incentivize the player to use his sidearm when possible. But then i would become concerned with the player just using the pistol to print as many drops as he needs. With regular health pickups, theres only so much in a level, and that puts a good incentive on the player to not take hits.

>> No.4863240

I would kick everyone in the nose who come up with this Bazinga stuff as a reason to shit on World Tour.

Not just it didn't happen, but even if it had happened, it would have been just one fucking line. In a game that had many new maps, new music, new features (good or bad), rating the game by one line is just virginal retardation at level 11.

>> No.4863241

Building up something similar to Red Dead Revolver's dead eye stuff would be cool. Build up enough using it and get a quickdraw fast firing barrage at everything on your screen for a short time. I guess you'd build it up by using other weapons. Then activate it by switching to the pistol when you're ready for it.

>> No.4863242

eyy term i wanna whack demons with clubs while listening to jazz. lemme at that beta file boi

>> No.4863243

The sound design took it hard in the ass though seeing as Duke's new voice clips are higher quality than everything else, plus John really didn't give it his all for them. The old Atomic Edition was better, seeing as the extra crap they added in World Tour are all pretty halfassed.

>> No.4863246

when will people recognize
1: people bait here often
2: people have shit taste, especially here

>> No.4863247

Never, we have some people that can't resist and we have a steady supply of newfriends that don't know any better and take the bait.

>> No.4863254

Not him, but the terrible leveldesign in Petersen levels is universally accepted by everybody but a few diehard fans. And Petersen did the 2/3 of both Doom 1 and 2, so stating that the game had bad leveldesign isn't necessarily a shit taste.

>> No.4863284

turn on the pallete tone map bro

>> No.4863290

It is ypu who suffer from reading comprehension issues. I was talking abotu the formula of Oldschool FPS in general.
You compared it to them
>remaking the exact same game 20 years later
which is not what I was saying at all

>> No.4863297

I turned that on and I like it, thanks. I tried out that Hejl Dawson tonemap too. Not sure which one I like better. The Hejl Dawson one is rough and vibrant, it's not the way Doom is meant to look but I kind of like it.

>> No.4863301


Yes, but it was more of a heads up for those who were interested in making a map, the mod never depended on levels made by other people.

>> No.4863306

Any way to stop the screen shade effects from berserk or hazmat suits? Or a mod that makes only the edges of the screen change color?

>> No.4863347

Do people make good maps in these speedmapping events? Reading about it it seems like it'd make a bunch of rushed crap.

>> No.4863353

Thanks for making me aware of Power Bomberman. Now I want to have a wad where you play as Bomberman in Doom.

>> No.4863368

There were some good maps in 300 minutes of /vr/ but overall I didn't like most of them.

>> No.4863401
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>tfw no smooth doom weapons only

>> No.4863405

i don't mind feature creep so long as you can realistically finish the mod/game. and i like it when there's alot of goodies to play around with.

it's what usually keeps me coming back to certain mods

>> No.4863412
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>mfw smooth doom hasn't added black gloves back yet
Quit farting around

>> No.4863416
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I wanna see armor plated gloves

>> No.4863423

I want some silly shit with octopus tentacles holding the weapons.

>> No.4863425


>> No.4863426

WinQuake-X, it's a modified WQ that supports mp3s.

>> No.4863427

perfect dark adds a silencer and a scope to the pistol

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>> No.4863440

> tentacles
> guns
"the darkness 2" quad wield mod


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>> No.4863447

Does smooth doom have proper glowmaps yet?

>> No.4863449

Speedmaps are usually fun to play, but they tend to be pretty short and lack the polish of regular maps.

>> No.4863459

Anyone got Burl Tumd they could toss up on mixtape.moe? All the links are dead on its forum page and in the reupload request topic some guy linked to it on the wayback machine. Problem is I get some error about something couldn't be saved in appdata or some such when I open the link and I can't download it.

>> No.4863471

Here you go. Dunno why the website decided to change the filename I had for it, but whatever.


>> No.4863474

Thanks man, I really appreciate you helping me out with that.

>> No.4863478

32in24 has some good installments.

>> No.4863513

Supplice release when? I want it now. Right now goddammit.

>> No.4863521

I don't mind a quake remaster with the arcane dimensions graphical quality, style consistency through the episodes and the missing bosses

>> No.4863532
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So whats the deal with Duke Nukem anyway, whats special about him that allows him to be a badass supersoldier. We know doomguy is basically a demon and has an argent powered suit of body armor. And Caleb from blood is half undead and feeds on life force.

So what makes Duke such a badass besides the literal manifested power of ego? Im gonna guess based on the name he's got some kind of plutonium based biochemistry.

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Someone needs to fund this, like KDiZD but not fucking it up with cringe.

>> No.4863557

There was a project called Remake Quake. It's dead now.

>> No.4863563

>We know doomguy is basically a demon and has an argent powered suit of body armor
only recently. He used to be nothing more than a very strong marine.

Anyway, Duke is supposed to run on Action Movie logic. His strenght is based on how cool it would be for him to be.

>> No.4863567

Remake Quake wasn't a remaster, it was, like its name implies, a full remake. And it also sucked balls. Like, really fucking sucked.

>> No.4863568

Seems like there's gonna be another HUMP:

>> No.4863570
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wait a minute there was one before?
heretic is one of my go-to games but there's no content out there for it...

>> No.4863575

Yeah nigga

>> No.4863579

i wouldn't mind a copy of quake that runs on modern hardware right out of the box

>> No.4863580

Was it really that bad? I recall trying out one of it's demos but I don't remember much about it.

>> No.4863583

The gameplay was radically different and much closer to Quake 2. It had a lot of really stupid changes. The sounds were terrible and the enemies, like Enforcers, actively taunted you. The maps were the only positive aspect of it, and even then they were very far removed from the originals, to the point of being nothing like them for some (like e2m1).

>> No.4863592
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I've got you (again). https://my.mixtape.moe/gjluab.pk3

>> No.4863617
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I found the truth...

>> No.4863621

wau spoilers

>> No.4863624

When i played TNT with MetaDoom, Pharaoh had its yellow key in its area.
Does that mean the mod had its own patch for the level?

>> No.4863636 [SPOILER] 
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I spoilered it this time

>> No.4863680

I love you man, you've got all the dopest shit. Is it just me or does this weapons only version have improved weapon sounds? They sound better I think. Louder and punchier. I also like that we can switch glove color to black and pick and choose whether we want classic or 64 skin for each weapon individually, plus muzzle flash style.

>> No.4863708

Duke Nukem 3d, because ammo is generally generously available, meaning you'll build up a full supply kind of quick, so if you ever find yourself short on ammo for better ammo, often you'll find yourself with your pistol and its frequently full ammo pool (as it shares it with nothing else).
Further, it's rapid, and if you combine it with quick kicking, it's easy to stunlock certain enemies like the octabrain.

It's still pretty good with freelook.

>> No.4863731

Pistol is also pin-point accurate with the default autoaim and is the best weapon by far to take out flying liz troopers and turrets in the distance.

>> No.4863754

Quake 2 would have been very different.

I think Romero quitting was inevitable though. Id couldn't meet his ambitions. He'd try and get them to make Daikatana and it would get him driven off or burnt out.

>> No.4863761
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JCMP is the best weaponset of Final Doomer; none of the other sets can compare.

>> No.4863763
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Whoops I had a stroke, I meant JPCP

>> No.4863810

>the most aesthetic for aesthetic sake mod
>ancient aliens

You know nothing

>> No.4863838
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license plate finally arrived.

>> No.4863845

> considering where he lives he's going to need that cheat code eventually
> pyroclastic flows from the north
...not IDKFA... :(

>> No.4863862

Is it me or ever since Doom 3, we no longer had zombiemen in hell levels?
Also, i wonder if a glory kill in Eternal will involve stabbing the Arachnotron with his scorpion tail lke weapon on top of his head/body

>> No.4863872

I'm a TNT Evilution man. I like that SPAS-12 shotgun.

>> No.4863879

>Plutonia Revisit Community Project
Sounds like hell

>> No.4863880

Petersen would've left anyway, and without him, Romero would have noone to ape anymore (except for shitmappers like McGee, Green and Willits).

>> No.4863890

What gameplay mod was this?

>> No.4863927

It is, but it's also fun.

>> No.4863942

and a remake of a 20 year old game isn't going to have the exact the same design conventions as its original counterpart.

you criticizing it because of item distribution not being the exact same as it was back then is fucking meaningless.

>> No.4863979

There's a lot more to it than that. But yes, new Doom isn't as much about scrappy survival as it is about swingy action. Look at the imp for example, it can take off half your health with a single fireball in nuDoom, but you can mostly get it back if you play well

>> No.4864102 [DELETED] 

No, you're just a faggot.

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>> No.4864116

Any good Quake maps/mapsets with a difficulty similar to the original campaign on skill 2? Almost everything I've played has been way harder

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>> No.4864124

Was replying to

>> No.4864130

ferd green is best green

>> No.4864131

what mod?

>> No.4864145

Highway to Hell

>> No.4864156
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Doom mod where the objective is to find all the secrets and take pictures of them when?

>> No.4864162

wrong filename anon

>> No.4864170

>Is it me or ever since Doom 3, we no longer had zombiemen in hell levels?
a casualty of increased graphical fidelity. cartoon zombiemen wandering around in a lo-fi "hell" was fine. when you are in a realistic barren landscape and you come across a zombie dude in a UAC jumpsuit or whatever it's too jarring

>> No.4864171

>Doom mod where the objective is to find all the secrets and take pictures of them when?
Mr. Friendly is almost exactly this https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

>> No.4864180

what's the right filename?

>> No.4864182

"let go of my camera you son of a bitch"

>> No.4864185


>> No.4864193

Going straight to Doomguy's Phobos & Deimos collection.

>> No.4864197

One of the hands is wrong, hence. I think Kegan made it, then after correcting it kept the other original one

>> No.4864202

Yep. This one's going in my screenshot folder.

>> No.4864212

>when you are in a realistic barren landscape and you come across a zombie dude in a UAC jumpsuit or whatever it's too jarring
I don't agree, he could have been some poor UAC dude who just ended up in hell somehow and became possessed there.

>> No.4864217
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It may be a kind of mediocre shotgun in real life, but goddamn, if it isn't one of the coolest guns ever made.

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Here you go, mate. Enjoy.
I'm a little annoyed with it right now because, for some reason in Zandronum, it'll randomly crash to a fatal error for no discernable or identifiable reason.
There's no identifying pattern or connection between the crashes, aside from that it's when a map/game begins.

>> No.4864234

>Let go of the camera, Carl!

>> No.4864240

You could also take account in how older versions of Doom portrayed demons with their own corrupted tech or sucking in tech bases and cities, then merging them with hell

>> No.4864248
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>slope bounce collision fucks up at the edges of each individual triangle
Oh, I hate this

>> No.4864250

Are they referring to their ambiguous gender?

>> No.4864254

awww. bummer. what exactly makes it a mediocre or lackluster gun?

>> No.4864260
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>what makes Duke such a badass besides the literal manifested power of ego?
why would he require anything else

>> No.4864261

Hey Term, is software mode compatibility a requirement for maps made for this mod?

>> No.4864263
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It's true, here's the fixed version for anyone that wants it

>> No.4864270


Yes, please.
From my experience with Push, a not-insignificant amount of players play on Software.

>> No.4864286

Bulky and heavy.
Pump action not the smoothest to operate.
Folding stock uncomfortable to shoot with.

>> No.4864292
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yee, it's a sufficiently 90's car for a 90's game as well

if IDSPISPOPD was within the character limits I'd use it, but alas

>> No.4864308

why is this fun to play

i don't even like golf but trying to get each stroke number down lower is fun

>> No.4864313

a station wagon like that ought to allow you to pack everything you need to evacuate the area, when it happens, if you know what im talking about.

Love that car too.

>> No.4864317


I have an answer for your problem term

do a football mod, no triangles, no portals, no 3d floor, no slope problems

>> No.4864324
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wew, we actually talked about the supervolcano in my environmental systems class. It's a big ol' meme that no one should lose sleep over. I have wanted to do a volcano based wad for a while though.

I've seen the 2-door coupe and sedan version of this gen taurus in my town (in the same green), so being the one with the thicc wagon makes me feel superior. Seats eight!

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from someone who knows something just be ready but I think that goes for these days in general - youd probably have ample time to panic and toss stuff you need in the car anyway

I wonder if people think this pistol/combo looks good, its the duke desert eagle resized with the doom hand. Except I dont want to give it different gloves and people like black glove, so I went dark brown leather glove instead. Good aesthetic here?

>> No.4864348
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I never really liked gun skins that aren't straight-on like the doom ones. But the texture looks fine, maybe a tad too detailed? like if you crank the blurriness up a tad it'll be great

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>> No.4864359

centered... ?

>> No.4864365

>crank up the blurriness
for what reason

>> No.4864367
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I actually figured it out. I never tried remaking my cfg files until now. Runs like a dream!

>> No.4864368


Golf's one of those things I always found a lot more fun in video games than in real life.
Like fishing, racing, poker, open-heart surgery, and backstreet fighting.

>> No.4864384

Sorry if its a dumb question, but what do you mean by remaking your cfg files? Did you just delete them and copy the info to a new one?

>> No.4864394

I just deleted them and put in certain options like turning off texture filtering and sndspeed. No idea what was causing the low FPS in the cfg but it's gone now.

>> No.4864405

angled weapons are fine as long as they are consistent across the entire weapon set
and have some proper animations

>> No.4864406

you mean video games can give you the enjoyment of an activity without the chore and stress that normally comes with them?
who knew

>> No.4864409

I always found racing games to be utterly boring.
Crash CTR was and still stands as the only one I actually enjoyed playing.

>> No.4864413

hell ye

the one game where the sewer level is actually good
halfpipes and jump boosts for DAYS
also the secret super shortcut you need SHAZBOT levels of speed to reach

game also had good music
hell, skulldash uses a midi from it in the first level

>> No.4864417

reminds me, where can one find the original image for that one green demon face they use for like, ep2 and 3 textures, the staring ones

>> No.4864418

You've led an interesting life

The few times I've gone street fighting were actually fun as edgy as it sounds but throwing hadokens hurts your hand less so

>> No.4864419

our ford taurus really shit the bed with the engine cooling, and worst of all, it was blue. good luck with that thing.

>> No.4864423

Will we ever be able to play blood 2 without it being a crashing mess? (windows 10 here)

>> No.4864429

I've never played quake or unreal, which game should I play, or are these mostly multiplayer focused now?

>> No.4864450

>which game should I play
fucking both

>or are these mostly multiplayer focused now
after the first few installments, yes

OG unreal and quake are two different beasts though
unreal for large maps, enemies in less quantities but more sophisticated ai and overall power, exploration and environmental storytelling
quake for distilled, high octane, pure focus on combining 3d level design with fps action

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Quake is pretty good. Enemies are a bit spongy and some levels are a bit generic and tedious. But it has great atmosphere and when the game flows it flows well. I recommend making sure you have the musics playing, you are playing on hard (increases the amount of enemies) and you don't autism over 100% ing the maps on your first run. Also, know that the big white guys that shoot lightning are resistant to explosives.

Unreal has good soundtrack but the gameplay is kinda arse. Pretty much everything it might be legitly praised for were done better in the console shooter hit Halo less than two years after. Expect boring level design, generic aesthetics, dated scripted sequences, and guns that don't feel strong.

>> No.4864498

work on your english

>> No.4864508

3 1/2 years later
also, halo sucks

>> No.4864510

>and you don't autism over 100% ing the maps on your first run
I would definitely recommend that he find the secret maps though.

>> No.4864524

I play vanilla doom almost exclusively. What mods/wads should I try out?

>> No.4864527

Smooth Doom.

>> No.4864534

project brutality

>> No.4864535
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>> No.4864536

shotafags leave

>> No.4864537

damn, thats good

>> No.4864538

Memento Mori
Back to Saturn X
Alien Vendetta
Plutonia 2

>> No.4864539
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>Pretty much everything it might be legitly praised for were done better in the console shooter hit Halo
...Is it opposite day?

>Expect boring level design, generic aesthetics, dated scripted sequences, and guns that don't feel strong.
yeah no youre describing halo

>> No.4864543
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What makes a good opening map?

>> No.4864545
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okay he's legit cute in that.

>> No.4864546

sauce? Love me some low poly work

>> No.4864547
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nabbed them off tumblr
fightbeast @ DA apparently

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>> No.4864553

Short, sweet, and action packed without using more than a few high-tier monsters. Bonus points for cool music to fit with the action.

>> No.4864570

It needs to introduce the essence of the game/mod and the mechanics of the game
Like how playing E1M1 the level design conveys to you that the essence is run & gun action, and introduces the mechanics of doors & secrets
Or how Winnowing Hall it conveys that the essence is more slow-paced, thoughtful action, and introduces the puzzle aspect with the bell

>> No.4864572
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>loading up nordhell map02 just to sit there at the start and listen to the music loop over and over

>> No.4864579

Looks like he'd fit in in Jet Set Radio

>> No.4864602
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>> No.4864604

Is that guy on the right ok?

>> No.4864605

he's just hanging in there

>> No.4864627

nigga are you trippin?
Unreal has great level design and aestethics, at least the first 2/3 of the game, next to no scripted sequences - I play Unreal regularily and the only 3 I can remember are "Skaarj killing people behind locked door while you listening", but that's hardly a sequence, "A soldier getting thrown at the wall" in second level and "Skaarj introduction" though those are same level of complexity as HL's "elevator kills scientists" sequence. That's literally all I could remember.
And if 6-barreled rocket launcher that can shoot all 6 rockets at once does not feel powerful to you, I don't know what can.

>> No.4864639

I tried to play Unreal, I played for like 2 hours and I got so fucking lost and the level design was esoteric unclear shit. It was like a mix between Halo and Doom except snooze friendly.

>> No.4864659

There is no Halo in Unreal, you halo-babby
And the first levels before the Nali temple are a fairly linear, how the fuck can you get lost in a linear level
If that is "esoteric unclear shit" to you I wonder how the fuck are you even able to play anything remotely non-linear, like may of the Arcane Dimension maps.

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>> No.4864668

>It was like a mix between Halo and Doom
What did he mean by this?

>> No.4864669


That looks very nice.

>> No.4864678


Power of action movies and their respective tropes

>> No.4864682
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this general has done a lot of things to me but I would have never imagined
not even in my wildest dreams
that I would be lusting after commander fucking keen one day

>> No.4864684


Map has to be short, but give an impression of the wad and what to expect. Mid-tier monsters at most, and use sparingly if so. Plenty of action so the player can feel enticed to keep going. Weapons have to be basic and only a chance for a more powerful weapon/boost in the secret but little ammo so that it won't be too much of an advantage for the next map.

>> No.4864693

Are there any pretty maps like Sunlust, Deus Vult 2, Swim With The Whales, and Stardate 20X6/7 that don't have a lot of enemies and aren't hard? I'll be honest, I suck and I can't handle that sort of gameplay but the maps are really quite beautiful.

>> No.4864717
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>heretic has EIGHTY-SEVEN textures excluding animation frames & skies

>> No.4864719

The lack of hitscan firepower really hurts it, though. At least BTSXguy's projectiles are fairly fast.

>> No.4864724

It's the THICC handguard, makes it look like a mighty mix of a shotty and an M60.

>> No.4864734

>Enemies are a bit spongy
No. Especially when compared to Doom.

>> No.4864737

Dead Marine
Perkristian sounds
Sprite fix project

>> No.4864751

>No. Especially when compared to Doom.
Compare the lowest-tier enemies. Former Humans you can easily kill with a single single-barrel shotgun blast. Knights on the other hand take multiple double-barrel blasts. Chaingunners take on double-barrel, Death Knights take multiple rockets. The only enemies with comparable health & damage are the Caco and Scrag. But besides that the enemies in Quake without a doubt have more health than Doom's. And this was a conscious, necessary choice. Computers couldn't handle many 3D models on-screen at once, so the individual enemies were beefed up to compensate.

>> No.4864753
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>planets align and a heretic project pops up
>project leader wants to only use stock textures

>> No.4864760

Bad enemy and weapon comparisons. Shotgun in Quake is the equivalent of the Doom pistol. Double barrel is equivalent to the regular Doom shotty. Rockets are meant to be used more frequently in Quake, you get the grenade launcher earlier on and ammo is a lot more abundant.

>> No.4864761

>Former Humans you can easily kill with a single single-barrel shotgun blast.
They go down from two shots of your starting weapon... just like in Quake.

>> No.4864770

first off, stop thinking of the weapons in quake as directly equivalent to their doom versions. the quake shotgun is not the doom shotgun, the quake shotgun is your pistol. the double barrel shotgun is your workhorse shotgun, the one that kills grunts, rotties, and rotfish in one blast and does enough damage to enforcers and knights that a second close range ssg blast will not only kill them but gib them as well. death knights die in two direct rockets and some splash damage from a third, with three direct rockets turning them into giblets; that isn't a very long time at all, as your rocket and grenade launchers are the real workhorse weapons of quake given how much ammo you get for them and their extremely fast fire rate compared to doom's RL.

even the more common tanky enemies like ogres die to two direct rockets, an intentional design decision as they also drop two rockets on death, and those two rockets aren't enough to gib them and make them not drop their backpack- a zero-sum enemy where you can either kill them more slowly to use their ammo for other enemies, or take out your own grenade launcher and kill them very quickly but not gain any ammo from the encounter. also, NOTHING in quake is as durable as a baron and nothing comes even close to a cyberdemon or spider, so any discrepancy in lower-tier enemies is made up for by the toughest standard enemy (the shambler) still dying in just a couple seconds of nailgun fire and/or a reasonable amount of shells.

>> No.4864776


How many does doom have?

>> No.4864781

286 according to gzdoombuilder

>> No.4864784

barons die in five rockets (2.85s), shamblers die in 34 super nails (3.4s) or 20 zaps (2s)

they're pretty close

>> No.4864786
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oh shit it's evaxephon

>> No.4864789


>> No.4864790

99 textures, 66 flats
Yeah less if you remove the animated frames and skies.

>> No.4864808
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>can't talk my friends into taking a break from mobas and overwatch to play doom with me

>> No.4864810

I'll play doom with you, anon

>> No.4864814


Its okay anon, they would just be scrubs anyway. We will be your friends.

>> No.4864819

I have a friend like that. We both love Doom but I can't ever get him to Co-op or deathmatch, spending most of his time playing Smite instead.

>> No.4864825

Eh it's a hard sell, the game's only ok coop, DM is a mess. There are games that do each better I think.

>> No.4864828

Let your friends enjoy what they want, don't force them into sharing your opinions.

>> No.4864829
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If you could only recommend one must play megawad in your life, what would you choose?

>> No.4864830


>> No.4864837

At least you have friends

>> No.4864838

You just made me realize my memory of every wad I played has sorta faded, been gone a long time.
I should replay everything

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Ah yes, the pretty wrapper containing a fetid mass of slaughter shit.

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>> No.4864847

sunder is better

>> No.4864852

Calm down now, there's no need to cry because someone doesn't like your favorite toy.

>> No.4864854
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Well instead of being a turd about it, what would you consider a must play instead?

>> No.4864863

Ultimate Doom

>> No.4864868

>everything it might be legitly praised for were done better in the console shooter hit Halo
Show me where Halo has complex non-linear levels that combine recognisability (you can figure what everything is supposed to be) with oldschool abstractness that allows it to get creative with level design for a better gameplay.

Unreal and Quake 2 were the last games that could get away with being a bit abstract without breaking the aestethic balance and Q2 didn't utilise it as well as it should've.

>> No.4864887


>> No.4864918

Scythe 2.

>> No.4864925

Scythe 3 & Knuckles.

>> No.4864929

Scythe 4: The Road Virus Heads North

>> No.4864934

Scythe 5: The Empire Strikes Back

>> No.4864940

Halo's progenitor (in terms of being checkpoint-based arena/sandbox semi-tactical FPS game) is Pathways into Darkness, not Doom/Quake. It's a legitimately alternate take on the entire genre. Whereas Unreal is just a prettyfied Quake with muh art and integrated botmatch.

>> No.4864942

Scythe X

>> No.4864943


>> No.4864947

What exactly that means in the context of PiD and Halo is that you are meant to constantly question, what the intended way to proceed is, in order to get to the next checkpoint in one piece. In that sense each arena serves as a puzzle of sorts (although that only really comes into play in Halo on Heroic and Legendary).

Among similar games, though, I vastly prefer Far Cry 1 to both PiD and Halo 1.

>> No.4864961
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In all seriousness, I'm enjoying Guncaster 3.0 a lot

>> No.4864989
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3D floors were a mistake

>> No.4864994

Is this the dummy sector farm? Because that looks like a dummy sector farm

>> No.4864995


You making some Hexen stuff there lad? I like me some Hexen.

>> No.4864998

Guncaster's weapons are so powerful it's not even fun for me. I'll have to give it another shot with Custom Doom and try to fiddle around with the damage scaler and weaken myself down some. I don't want to be so strong I gib everything I kill. I mean it was fun at first but then it faded and it kind of feels like how the game isn't fun anymore if you turn on god mode.

>> No.4865000
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*blocks ur path*

>> No.4865001

>*plays with hexercise which removes block ability from them but makes all centaurs into slaughtaurs that can shoot*

>> No.4865008

guys I told the icon of sin to spawn a cyberdemon and he actually did it ahaha the absolute madman

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Halo is vastly superior to Unreal in reality, though.

Or the shitty Skaarj introduction scene where the lights go off in that one corridor just to show off that the engine can do things other engines do as well.

>Halo didn't utilize abstract level design
Nice way of revealing that you never fucking played it. Halo gets way more creative than Q2 with its level geometry but in return tends to recycle segments.

>> No.4865043
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Why aren't there any good gameplay mods for Quake 2 god damn this game sucks

>> No.4865045

Play it on harder difficulty.

>> No.4865046
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Guncaster has built in damage scaler.

>> No.4865047

I'm playing it on Nightmare. It's plenty hard, but the difficulty doesn't make the guns not feel like garbage. It feels like I'm just shooting air bubbles at things and they're falling over dead from sheer embarrassment.

>> No.4865048
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Heavy and bulky, the folding stock isn't particularly comfortable.
The semi automatic mode doesn't like anything that isn't regular powered buckshot, which is what the pump-mode is for; low powered loads, but in pump-mode you also literally pump against the spring of the gas piston.

The semi-auto mode needs its recoil buffer, a piece of neoprene in the back of the receiver, for the bolt to hit against, without this buffer (either absent or dried and cracked out), the bolt will batter, and gradually stretch the receiver.
Also, the older lever safeties have been known to actually discharge the gun when accentuated, so either don't touch that safety at all, or get the safety upgraded to a cross button safety that doesn't do this.

But, as long as the gun hasn't been sitting in a shed for a decade and the buffer hasn't disintegrated over time (in which case, just run it in pump-mode), and you then just run decently powered 00 buck loads, the gun should work fine.

>> No.4865051

>Also, the older lever safeties have been known to actually discharge the gun when accentuated, so either don't touch that safety at all, or get the safety upgraded to a cross button safety that doesn't do this.
Wasn't there just a recall about a similar issue on the newest Ruger Mark series?

>> No.4865052


>> No.4865053 [DELETED] 

Oh, yeah. The booring and bland "abstract alien hallways with just 3 textures #31".
I replayed all Halos just recently, you little twat.
Halo is anthitesis of "creative"

>> No.4865057

I'm positively sure it's bait my dudes

>> No.4865058

Watch him reply with essentially ">Opinions are bait now"

>> No.4865061

Void and Rainbow is beautiful and dope but goddamn this platforming is ass. It's be twice as good if it just had those sparkly platforms as a road to everywhere instead of this jumping. Or just use the jumping for secrets or optional pick ups.

>> No.4865063

Oh yeah, I forgot all about that.

>> No.4865071

turn the goddamn filter off

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If you think Unreal is creative, then you just ain't familiar with the sources it's ripping off. Plenty of old pulpy scifi literature with the tone they went towards with Unreal, while Halo is taking cues from slightly fresher military scifi. Halo's environment however feels a lot more natural and immersive due to having some sort of visual cohesion. Unreal reeks of having some newage weed-smoker director's initial "vision" and then bunch of juvenile directors cramming it full of random shit they thought looks cool.

While it's true that Halo's aesthetic finesse and level design got worse as the series progressed, the first game is indubitably a masterpiece, one of the few truly good singleplayer fps games between Quake 1 and FEAR.

>> No.4865081

Double yep

>> No.4865085

*meant "juvenile designers cramming it full of random shit"

Any suggestions for good settings?

>> No.4865087

And yet McGee gets treated as a professional level-designer and even happens to have his own fanbase here. I mean, the whole "cube plastered with a single repeating texture connected to another cube plastered with a single repeating texture via axis-aligned corridor" thing.

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>Zandronum doesn't have A_ResetHealth, A_SetHealth, or A_DamageSelf
Do I really need to use ACS just to get my monster to heal itself?

>> No.4865091

or you could just use HealThing

>> No.4865095

I'm just disappointed they feel the need to shit on Unreal and put Halo on a pedestal, instead of just appreciating both games.

>> No.4865096

Oh, that works. I wasn't aware of that special, thank you!

>> No.4865097

try adjusting the noose.

>> No.4865098

a) He manages to make them look interesting
and b) the gameplay is good

Anyway, no matter how you look at it, Halo is a boring slog that could only be enjoyed by console plebs that didn't know any better

>> No.4865102 [DELETED] 

People were initially shitting on Halo to keep Unreal on the unrealisticly high pedal it has been put on, m'bruv.

>> No.4865104

McGee is okay. Focus is a legitly good map even if it doesn't particularly stand out in the big picture.

>> No.4865115 [DELETED] 

I like the way you arrange and your words to procure your bait. it really makes your posts look more substantial than they actually are.
>Halo is good, unreal is bad. if you consider it good you have no taste
>Halo takes after newer stuff therefore it is better. unreal looks bad because no cohesion
and of course the undercover bait piece for last. an opinion that you believe should at best be perceived as 'controversial'. except nobody really cares enough to argue over it, because it's not a genuine thought, and because this is the retro videogames board.
>Halo 1 is one of the few truly good singleplayer fps games between Quake 1 and FEAR.

>> No.4865135

Late reply, but:





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>> No.4865172

Have you brought up Samsara or QCDE?

>> No.4865183

I know i'll never get into Keen, either because i don't find him that visually appealing to be or because of how wrong it is to lust for BJ Blazkowicz' grandson
Then again, i'm the kind of guy who likes to picture Ape Escape's main protagonist fucking Kat from Gravity Rush

>> No.4865190

Is there a good megawad with not too rough difficulty designed around pistol starts? I need one I can just pick a random map and jump right into without feeling like I'm gimping myself because it wasn't designed for pistol start. Nice visuals are a plus, colorful maps with purples and such are a favorite of mine. I liked Stardate 20X6 and 7 visually but they were too hard for me.

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I remember there was a recall for some safety issue for the Ruger Mk.IV, but I don't remember exactly what. They're still selling them, so I'm assuming it was an identified error in a batch.
For the SPAS12, this has only been observed on *some* guns, not all guns with the older lever safety exhibit this problem, though some guns which didn't use to, then did. The crossbolt safety (which Franchi would offer for free, for a time after the lever safety issue was discovered) never does it.

Goes to show that you shouldn't trust *only* the safety on a firearm, always keep it pointed in the direction you rather would want it to be if it would ever fire (as in, somewhere where nobody gets hurt, or optionally, always against the enemy).
Guns don't suddenly fire by themselves, but a defective safety could possibly make the sear trip. Generally only exhibited on either not so well thought out guns, or not so well manufactured guns, or guns which are both.

I don't think any of this makes the SPAS12 a terrible shotgun though. It works fine. Assuming it was the only shotgun I had to work with, I could deal with it. If the buffer is new, I can feed it buck and slug, and if the buffer is worn out or missing, I could still run it manually, even if it wouldn't be as fast as I'd want.
It's dated and quirky, but it's still a 12 Gauge shotgun, and it certainly has unrivaled aesthetics.

>> No.4865262

Falling asleep to megawad speedrunning is a weird kind of comfy

>> No.4865285

New thread.


>> No.4865482

listen son

and besides, quake2 doesnt have a nightmare difficulty (easy normal hard are the only options available on the menu)

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