/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4852028]

Do half A presses really exist?

[Anonymous No.4852031]

>>4852028
No, an A press is an A press, you can't say it's half.

[Anonymous No.4852047]

Did you push the button? Yes? Then you pushed it, I don't give a shit how long you held it down. Every time that button goes down, that's how many times it was pushed.
This is probably the most retarded "debate" to ever come from gaming and colour me so fucking surprised that it's because of speedrunning.

[Anonymous No.4852050]

>>4852047
>because of speedrunning
Huh? This stuff is just glitches.

[Anonymous No.4852051]

>>4852050
No, it is very specifically from Mario 64 speedruns.

[Anonymous No.4852052]

Dumb meme

[Anonymous No.4852069]

>>4852052
no, a dumb meme is DUAL ORB 2

[Anonymous No.4852414]

>>4852051
Those "speedruns" would take weeks or years to do in real time. The no A press stuff is more of a "what if" run.

[Anonymous No.4852434]

>>4852028
That's pretty much a philosophical question...

Also, no

[Anonymous No.4852447]

>>4852028
Anybody who has ever programmed using a joypad as input knows that input isn't as simple as just pushing a button. Input is often processed to detect edges (transitions from up to down and down to up), and pulsing is imposed if needed, among other things. In many ways, releasing a button is just as important as pressing a button.

That being said, in the context of Mario 64 challenge runs that are the source of the terminology, the distinction between the number of button presses needed to beat all the levels in isolation, and the number to beat the game played as a whole, aren't equal (the former is greater) because of taking advantage of how Mario 64 processes it's input. It's possible to beat the game with fewer button presses by holding down the button in certain cases during the full playthrough, rather than assuming every level starts with the A button up.

Even if you think the name is stupid, you can't argue with what the name is drawing attention to. One way or another, the input of a game can't be described as a series of events where the button only went down (pressed), you gotta also keep track of when the button went up.

[Anonymous No.4852452]

>>4852047
It's used in the context of pressing it, holding it down through a segment, then letting go. Counting "2 A presses" for one level and then saying ".5" for the next just means he pressed it twice during one level & didn't let go until the next one. It's dumb, but it doesn't ever end the game on a fraction of a press.

[Anonymous No.4852469]

>>4852069
That one was fun... for like three days. Then everyone went overboard with it like a 5 year-old.

[Anonymous No.4852819]

>>4852047
If you pull the trigger on a semi-automatic pistol and hold it down you will only fire once. You only need to push it once to fire a round, but you can not fire another round until you release the trigger. You need a full motion to fire a round.

Similarly, you can jump with only half of one motion, but you can not initiate a new jump until you complete your initial motion.

[Anonymous No.4852845]

>>4852028
If the game classifies a button press as a 3-stroke movement (engage, hold, and release), then yes.

If it classifies it as a 2-stroke (Engaged and Not Engaged), then no.

[Anonymous No.4852862]

It's a stupid name

[Anonymous No.4852874]

>>4852047
How to be angry and stupid all rolled up together!

[Anonymous No.4852876]

>>4852047
Thanks, """""""henry"""""""

[Anonymous No.4853410]

>>4852845
I'm hard pressed to think of even a single console game that won't register an action until you release the button. I feel that kind of thing didn't show up until the DS touch screen.

[Anonymous No.4853594]

>>4852028
Yes, on the PlayStation 2.
It's one reason why some people prefer the control scheme of the fucking 3DS version. It's a pain to emulate without the real DualShock.

[Anonymous No.4853612]

>>4852028
Henry??
The Ace Attorney 3 fan-translation from before Capcom did it?
Funny how Godot was about the only character in that case who didn't get a name change in the official port.

[Anonymous No.4853773]

>>4853612
Do you seriously not know about that meme?

[Anonymous No.4853782]

>>4852447
>>4852452
>>4852819
Button count runs are for fags anyway.

[Anonymous No.4853796]

>>4853773
his QPU's are way too misaligned

[Anonymous No.4853804]

A thread died for this shit.

[Anonymous No.4853813]

>>4853410
It's pretty common in games that have some kind of charging attack. Immediately releasing the button performs a basic move, and holding it for a while does something stronger.

[Anonymous No.4853817]

>>4852028
In the context of the challenge, yes.

[Anonymous No.4855632]

>>4852047
I think it's legit.
Aren't the press and release of a button counted as separate inputs in many cases?

[Anonymous No.4856036]

>>4853804
There's a Sonic thread on the way out, so if anything we need more shitposts

[Anonymous No.4856040]

>>4852047
Sure thing """""""Henry""""""""

[Anonymous No.4856052]

>>4856036
Why didn't anyone in this guy's life force him into a physics career so he could use his autism to advance us to a Kardashev type III galactic civilization?

[Anonymous No.4856056]

>>4855632

From a hardware perspective? No. But from a software perspective, perhaps.

[Anonymous No.4856126]

To think I'm sitting here jerking myself off when I could be playing Mario instead

[Anonymous No.4856148]

>>4852447

[Anonymous No.4856197]

>>4852028
They're just as real as the voices in the heads of the crazies who say they do