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4834861 No.4834861 [Reply] [Original]

What retro games have the best water effects?

>> No.4834863

Far Cry?

Not sure if that is retro yet

>> No.4834868

Is that fucking Miiverse? I thought they took it down in November.
Also NAWT WETWO

>> No.4834879

>>4834861
wave race 64

>> No.4834882

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2NEB-my_fo

And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi-Kz4Y-8Lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45k5-c2LXdg

>> No.4834887

>>4834861
Trespasser.

>> No.4835006
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>>4834861
Panzer Dragoon

>> No.4835009

>>4834861
Wave Race 64 is the very obvious answer.

>> No.4835015 [DELETED] 

>>4834861
Mario Sunshine

>> No.4835017

Ocarina of Time. Particularly the Water Temple.

>> No.4835038 [DELETED] 

>>4834863
It will be sooner than later. Most people already consider ps2/cube/xbox retro. While almost everyone except /vr/ autists.

>> No.4835039 [DELETED] 

>>4835038
Fuck off.
>>>/v/

>> No.4835042 [DELETED] 

>>4835038
>retro
A period in time, not a period of time.

>> No.4835043

>>4834879
>>4835009
This, by a longshot.

>> No.4835075

I've definitely seen a picture very similar to OP's before but it was months ago, and those posts are all from like yesterday. Has this dude just been posting this shit forever? That's hilarious

>> No.4835076 [DELETED] 

>>4835039
>>4835042
>With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.
It's only a matter of time until the rules change.

>> No.4835078 [DELETED] 

>>4835076
You guys have been saying that for years now. It's never ever gonna happen.

>> No.4835079 [DELETED] 

>>4835078
Read the statement "with the release of...". It says right there when it's going to change.

>> No.4835084 [DELETED] 

>>4835079
Dreamcast was still released before 1999 though.
Send an e-mail to hiro asking for /v2k/ like everyone else.
Remember, /vr/ is not your childhood.

>> No.4835085 [DELETED] 

>>4835079
It was just a half assed excuse to allow the Dreamcast here after the board was swarmed with threads demanding it. It's not gonna happen with any other consoles just give up this is not the hill you wanna die on.

>> No.4835107

>>4834861
Crash 2 and 3

>> No.4835110 [DELETED] 

>>4834868
It's a meme you dip

>> No.4835157 [DELETED] 

>>4835015
Not retro.

>> No.4835169 [DELETED] 

>>4835085
So you're saying you need to beg harder?

>> No.4836136

The parallax in Sonic 3 and DKC2 still impresses me today.

>> No.4836235
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>>4834868
It's an edit of some dude saying GBA and Wii U games had really good water for some reason.

Not sure why it's an OP for a thread on /vr/, guess his shitposting wasn't seen on /v/ or something.

>> No.4836241

Wetrix? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDdxAl47Hi4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcPZ9aEshbs

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>>4836235
Oh, thought that Miiverse had come back from the dead.

>> No.4836256

>>4836235
SANIC has the best waterfalls.

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>>4834879
/thread

>> No.4836363 [DELETED] 

>>4836235
>Not sure why it’s an OP for a thread on /vr/, guess his shitposting wasn’t seen on /v/ or something.
I’m noticing this is happening here a lot more recently. I seriously don’t get the appeal of /v/ anymore, such an unpleasant place

>> No.4836368 [DELETED] 

>>4836363
I blame the constant console war faggotry and shitposting though that's always been a part of /v/

>> No.4836630

"Be like water." -Bruce Lee

>> No.4836651 [DELETED] 

>>4836368
>constant console war faggotry and shitposting
And /vr/ isn't like this, how?

>> No.4836653 [DELETED] 

>>4836651
He's delusional.

>> No.4836658 [DELETED] 

>>4836651
Console war shit is here, but it isn't as obnoxious as it is at /v/ where people you see the same numale wojak variations spammed over and over again.

>> No.4836671 [DELETED] 

>>4836651
Some people really want /vr/ to not be part of 4chan. Even though they could go to another retro board that actually isn't 4chan, they still insist on coming here and then whining like babies that it's not what they want. Pretty funny if you ask me.

>> No.4836676 [DELETED] 

>>4836651
>>4836658
Consolewar faggotry on /vr/ is fueled by the need of many people to defend their own childhoods on one hand, and on the other hand younger impressionable people get into it due to books with very doubtful sources, like that one Console War book by Steven L. Kent. Not saying young people read books, but they watch youtubers who parrot memes from that book a lot. Also dedicated younger console warriors from /v/ might get into retro console wars just for the heck of it.
But yeah, it's not comparable to actual modern console wars on /v/ where people actually battle it out as if they were employees of the companies they are defending.
On /vr/ is mostly just defending the childhood, on /v/ it's a war on a daily basis, and everyday they have something new to use as ammo.

>> No.4836689 [DELETED] 

>>4836676
Pretty much this, the Console war shit that happens here feels more like kids on the playground or in the cafeteria arguing about Blast Processing or Mode 7, the shit you see on /v/ feels like shills/hardcore fanboys screeching at each other.

>> No.4836701 [DELETED] 

>>4836671
Not sure what you're implying, /vr/ is pretty typical for a 4chan board. I think you must be pretty narrow in your board browsing habits to think that boards are supposed to be more like /v/ than they are /vr/. The super-duper shitpost boards, despite being the majority of posts due to their popularity, are actually in the minority overall. Those mega-popular boards collect most of the riff-raff in one place and the other boards are much less affected. If anything, the only problem with /vr/ is that it's one letter away from /v/, meaning it's an easy second jumping point for shitposters on their daily log.

>> No.4836712 [DELETED] 

>>4836689
Ok, I haven't been on /v/ since /vr/ came around so I'll take your word for it.
It's just that the console war shitflinging here wasn't always this bad and really does resemble the same sort of shitflinging /v/ had back when /vr/ was new.

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4836714

Outcast

>> No.4836762 [DELETED] 

>>4836651
Just be happy PS2 isn't retro yet, once that happens /vr/ is done for.

>> No.4836768 [DELETED] 

>>4836762
I doubt that Hiro will ever make /v2k/ for the shitposters who keep begging for 6th gen to be allowed here

>> No.4836784 [DELETED] 

>>4836762
>MUH HALO BOGEYMAN
Get raped, this board has been the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over for years.

>> No.4836825

>>4835006
I think the reflections would look better if you're playing in the original resolution.

>> No.4836946
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4836946

zero the kamakaze squirl looks good to me

also
turok waterfalls
ecco dreamcast
joe and mac level 2 on amiga
comanche

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>>4834861
>hardware
>slimy gooey shit because muh tech demo
>software
>sharp Source-like refractions in 1998

>> No.4837026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2a8Q5vdcRs

>> No.4837030

>>4836971
Holy shit is that real? Unmodified HL running in software looks like THAT?

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>>4837030
Yes software is beautiful, if anything hardware has a ton of bugs and unintended results

>> No.4837081

>>4836971
>>4837036
How come the software mode getting THIS quality effects?

>> No.4837083

>>4836971
You can do way more in software than in hardware, it's just really slow.

>> No.4837094

Aqua Jack

>> No.4837118

>>4837081
3D acceleration was an after thought clearly

>> No.4837216

>>4836247
>sekiro almost was a tenchu game

worst timeline

>> No.4837221

>>4836971
i don't get it

isn't left the intended look for the game, difficulty seeing the bottom and all?

what's software refering to?

>> No.4837275

>>4837221
Software rendering uses CPU and its the most accurate and literally what the developers intended.

Hardware acceleration like Direct3D and OpenGL modes are just effects thrown in for the sake of demoing tech at the time and looks crappy. The software water refraction looks 1000x more realistic and appealing than the slimy goopy shader they put in. Hardware rendering also created some unintended rendering bugs.

>> No.4837289

>>4837275
It's not "demoing tech", it's taking shortcuts so it could be rendered using the simplistic GPUs that were available at the time. Programmable shaders weren't even a thing on consumer graphics cards yet.

>> No.4837291

post examples of good water

>> No.4837301

>>4837275
>and literally what the developers intended.

then why does it work with those modes by default

>> No.4837313

>>4837301
Because software rendering is slooooowww. In the days before shaders, a lot of effects could only be rendered using software, but you'd be stuck with very low resolutions and frame rates; not a great experience unless you had no other choice. Of course, it doesn't matter now because CPUs are so monstrously overpowered compared to what was available back then.

>> No.4837315

>>4837313
yeah but i mean, if that's what happened, why do you assume the devs intended for software rendering and didn't build the game around it looking good on hardware?

>> No.4837327

>>4837315
I'm not the guy you were replying to before, but I'd say they intended you to use whatever was available to you. They obviously expected anyone with the option to use hardware rendering, because it was a much better experience at the time. But they had more freedom to implement various effects in software, so it could be argued that software version is closer to their vision of how they wanted the game to look, even if it couldn't be done on the 3D accelerators of the day.

>> No.4837329

>>4837327
How they wanted it to look is a contentious point.. Gaben in fact has gone on record that lots of compromises are made when designing games and that includes choosing the best possible graphics without exceeding budget or pc capabilities.

I think they decided the murky graphics were the best path and build the game around making the best out of their use. Not even saying software rendering doesn't look better, but claiming that it was the intended way it was meant to be played is just pretentious.

>> No.4837331

>>4836971
doesn't software HL not have weapon models?

>> No.4837449

>>4837331
The hell does that even mean

>> No.4837450

>>4837449
How did he even think that when that webm shows the grenade?

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4838857

In super metroid when you come out from a wet area your feet splash for awhile when you walk and I think that's really cool.

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4838865

I always found the Oasis level of Serious Sam to be comfy.

>> No.4839246

>>4836971
The one on the right doesn't have refraction, it's just an animated texture on top of the water plane, just like the one on the left.

Look at the ground beneath the water: it isn't being distorted.

To create this effect they probably just got some footage of a rippling water surface, lowered the resolution, reduced the colours then looped it and added it as a tiled animation with 95% transparency to the water plane.

>> No.4839469

>>4839246
You didn't need to type all that out I think we all know it's baked in as a fake effect

>> No.4839515

>>4836714
This cracka know what's up

>> No.4839891
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4839891

2003 so not very retro, but it looks pretty good.

>> No.4839904

>>4837036
Xash3D works completely fine and you can enable those textures with gl_texture_nearest 1

>> No.4840226

>>4836241
Best post right here.

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>>4834861
ecco has good water effex

>> No.4841359

>>4839891
Severance came out earlier (in 2001) and had not only that, but also full reflections and dynamic shadows.

>> No.4841453

>>4836235
There's nothing wrong with being impressed by water effects.

>> No.4842826

>>4834861
Is he blind?

>> No.4842831

>>4834879
/thread. Anything else belongs on /v/