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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4822846

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1528/27/1528276019025.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

BUILD ENGINE LAUNCHERS
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.4829347

=== ONGOING ====

Recent interest in a possible /vr/ mapping project, making a neighborhood of mappers' houses
-https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4814363/#4820547

=== NEWS ===

[06-10] QZDoom updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60838

[06-09] La Tailor Girl update, featuring a new character
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=255#p1058181

[06-08] Mr. Friendly updated
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[06-07] GZDoom 3.4.0 released
https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/post/174643966924/link#notes

[06-03] Doom Tournament pre-release; backports UT99 weapons to GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60759

[06-03] Golf proof-of-concept mod for Zandronum and (G)ZDoom
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4814363/#4815315

[06-02] Colorful Hell test build release, notably overhauling ammo and pickup drops
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=645#p1056959

[06-02] BloodGDX to get multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlfBetb4QCI

[05-29] Anon-modified version of Steve's Flashlight for custom light offset
https://my.mixtape.moe/pkuika.pk3

[05-25] Champions 2.2 released, more performance friendly on large maps
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[05-22] 20th Anniversary of Unreal

[05-22] ZScript tutorial: handling user input by creating a speed booster button
https://www.bitchute.com/video/h7CpDhKwp1bX/

[05-19] Demon Counter Strike 0.05c
http://static.allfearthesentinel.net/wads/demoncounterstrike-v0.05c.pk3

[05-18] More QCDE stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYu4jTqbf8

[05-18] Champions v2.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456&p=1052735#p1052735

[05-14] ZScript tutorial: create a monster duplication addon
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zuz0EZxygDuU/

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply to this post.

>> No.4829354

>>4829347
Fourth 100-brush mapping competition for Quake released (requires Quoth):
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61587

>> No.4829357

Is no one concerned that there is a naked guy on the stand?

>> No.4829360

https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/post/174590201804/name-doom-tournament-author-marisa-kirisame
>A gameplay mod recreating the Unreal Tournament levels to an obsessive degree of detail
Wh-where are the levels

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>> No.4829423

>>4829360

Fuck, I meant to write weapons. Fuck. I'm a retard. Fuck. Fuck. Shit. Ass. Cock. Bum. Dick.

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>> No.4829429

>>4829423
you know, don't say s-swears.

>> No.4829432

Repeating my question from earlier, what are recent, wide open maps?

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4829435

>>4829429
COCKS

>> No.4829456

>>4829429
Gosh, sorry.

>> No.4829463

How can I change bobbing style in GZDoom? I use 3D models of weapons, but weapons still swaying like sprites. I want to set points for angle rotation.

>> No.4829465

whens going down 2

>> No.4829490

>>4829429
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

>> No.4829558
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Shooting a stealth enemy with arrows is funny.

>> No.4829570
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>>4829435
?

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>>4829347
whether or not this is newsworthy, the development build of metadoom finally includes the codex
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1005417809914966016
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1305#p1058266

>> No.4829578

has anyone ever wondered why the d64 cacodemon has chains on his arms?

>> No.4829579

>>4829578
cause it was supposed to be a pain elemental at first before they decided to make that two-mouthed abomination it instead.

>> No.4829581

>>4829579
i know about the arms, but i'm talking more about the chains on those arms
where they imprisoned?

>> No.4829587
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4829587

To continue the discussion on software mode from previous thread:
I find it pretty ironic that back in the day, people were jumping onto 3D acceleration because software Quake ran like shit, but now I consistently get higher performance in software mode than any modern renderer, whether OpenGL or Direct3D. I assume it has something to do with my shitty integrated laptop videocard, but anyway, I play everything I can on software, and I've fallen in love with the lo-poly chunky look. Fancy engines make Quake look like a mediocre 2001 shooter, software has a gritty personality of its own.

>> No.4829612

>>4829587
I agree. In Quake especially, the software render was carefully crafted with levels of autism never seen before, so much autism in face that the whole video card industry combined still struggle to reproduce it to this day.
The visuals are also good enough and 100% no-nonsense due to the limited resouce of time and that's also something I like.

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4829614

Which one do you prefer?

>> No.4829617

>>4829614
1.6

>> No.4829641

>>4829575
>Operation: Imp Encounter
Kek

>> No.4829651

does the metadoom ssg alt-fire do anything different than the primary?

>> No.4829658

>>4829612
>I agree. In Quake especially, the software render was carefully crafted with levels of autism never seen before, so much autism in face that the whole video card industry combined still struggle to reproduce it to this day.
I'm curious, where can I read more about this?

>> No.4829660

>>4829651
Kinsie said he thought the "one barrel at the time" shot felt weird, so no
That could have helped to make the weapon more interesting

>> No.4829673

>>4829614
1.9, still don't get the spritefix guy's logic that he's "fixing" the sprite by going back to the symmetrical-face version.

>> No.4829690

>>4829658
http://www.jagregory.com/abrash-black-book/
Michael Abrash is the guy who worked with John Carmack since Doom. There are parts of that book that aren't really relevant anymore like optimizing in assembly for the Pentium, but there's also an implementation of the scanline sorting software renderer and the surface cache mechanism.

>> No.4829704

>>4829575
Finally!

>> No.4829707

I'm annoyed that quakespasm runs better than gzdoom (on my craptop)

>> No.4829715

>>4829707
You could swap quakespasm for darkplaces, so they would both run and look bad and you wouldn't be annoyed anymore.

>> No.4829765

>>4829707
use prboom+

>> No.4829772

>>4829765
prboom+ is nice but zdoom (without the G) also supports many good mods including Brutal Doom and heretic/hexen/strife/chex. Ignore the fact that the G people try to discourage you from using it and ignore the fact that it's unmaintained. It's good.

>> No.4829783

I hate that newer gzdoom runs like ass on shitty computers, doom&mods are supposed to be good toaster games

>> No.4829785

>>4829783
Use software mode

>> No.4829794

What are some neat Blood map packs that run on BloodGDX
I've tried Deathwish and found 0 health items, level design is cool though
Hostile Takeover didn't take me over
I'll smoke some more French Meat but so far seems like there's 0 ammo in the fucking thing

>> No.4829810

>>4829783
This. GZDoom was fine a while ago, but I had to update it so it could run with a mod, and now it runs like shit. It's infuriating. Soon I won't be able to enjoy my favorite mods...

>> No.4829831

>>4829810
>>4829783
How bad is your computer?
I'm not trying to ask in an asshole way, I'm genuinely curious how "high" the minimum requirements for GZDoom is now.

>> No.4829851

>>4829614
1.9, easy.
1.6 looks like someone hit him with a shovel.

>> No.4829860
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Been really enjoying vanilla Doom 2 on nightmare mode.

>> No.4829865

>>4829860
Hmm, something looks off about that palette.

>> No.4829878

>>4829772
Play vanilla mods with Chocolate/Crispy, boom mods with Prboom+, and modern shit with ZDoom.

>> No.4829932

So where do you guys consider good points to save in a level, if at all?

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>>4829570

>> No.4829943

The Revenant in Doom was unique because of his homing rocks, yet they were replaced with a stream of missiles in Doom '16 and i wondered if he could have worked as a potential Arachnotron replacement where said missile stream could somewhat resemble a stream of plasma balls
Except the spiderbrains work when they're used like sentries certain places, while the new Revenants are put in closed arenas and the fact that they could fly could help to make them better, if not for those closed arenas
inb4 Doom 5 gives Arachnotrons homing plasma balls

>> No.4829948

>>4829575
Lithium will always have my favorite codex.

>> No.4829953

>>4829932
After picking up keys.

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Would you guys change anything on this?

>> No.4829979

>>4829967
Divide Final doom with Plutonia and TNT
Also maybe divide doom 3 with resurrection of evil.

>> No.4829981

>>4829967
Yeah.

>> No.4829994

>>4829979
Both are annoying as shit, Plutonia on the enemy placement department and TNT on the level progression where it's not as intuitive as most wads. It's almost Hexen-tier.

>> No.4830007 [DELETED] 

>>4829967
big picture of poo in doom 2016

>> No.4830010
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>>4829794
Send help

>> No.4830029 [DELETED] 

>>4830007
dont say that, youll sperg out the "rip n tear" retards

>> No.4830031

>>4829932
start of level only otherwise its cheating.
although it might get annoying to repeat the same 10 minutes just to die again and again,
but in that case it could be argued that you shouldn't be playing if you aren't enjoying the grind of getting gud

>> No.4830059

>>4829465
when cyriak jacks off to his furry porn collection

>> No.4830071 [DELETED] 

>>4830029
>>4830007
Wait, do people in this thread not like 2016 Doom?

>> No.4830074 [DELETED] 

>>4830071
it has its critics here, but those two posts seem like some shitposter begging for attention.

>> No.4830080

>>4829967
Am I the only one who enjoyed the Doom movie? Especially that scene where Dr. Carmack dies or something and there's that woman who screams DR. CARMACK!!! And then the protagonist does drugs and becomes super powerful and beats The Rock. To me, that's a good movie.

>> No.4830083 [DELETED] 

>>4830071
nobody likes doom 2016 except literal children

>> No.4830085 [DELETED] 

r&i

>> No.4830096

>>4829932
Do not listen to this guy. >>4830031

>> No.4830101

>>4830083
>muh extremes

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>>4829346
>>4829347
>>4829062
>>4828016

The color changing zombies are here, you can get the sprites at this download. Its not a functioning mod, the graphics are simply provided as-is. If you want to use them with the original zombie color look some sample translations are provided in the .pk3 notes.
- Zombieman
- Chaingunner
- (no Shotgun Sergeant yet)

These are smooth doom sprite edits so credit goes there, took me a couple afternoons of boredom to do it.

https://mega.nz/#!3gJmWAba!jddg5DAg0Pzobs8R9U6k0zflKkZZXLugOHs9einKbtE

Also provided here in the zdoom forum Smooth Doom thread (as a reminder my projectile upgrade is located on page 99 in the thread):
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=45550&start=1485

>> No.4830112

>>4830071
Doom 2016 is okay.
Original's still better.

>> No.4830114

>>4830083
quality post.

>> No.4830115
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>>4830010
You have to press the USE key repeatedly to shake it off. Hopefully you're also playing with BloodGDX port, I heard the original executable might have a bug in it that prevents doing this.

I found out the hard way after getting it recently that the Blood game is also very much tailored to difficulty level, if you're playing on difficulty 4 like you would in doom you ass will be handed to you quickly (mostly due to bot-like precision from the cultists and the lack of item drops). There's no shame in playing on difficulty 2 or 3.

>> No.4830119

>>4830115
read the post I'm replying to

>> No.4830127

>>4830112
Please, you only say that because you've grown emotionally attached to the game and like more the modding community than anything. If you had no idea about Doom and then played the original and Doom 2016 for the first time today, you'd undoubtedly say the latter one is better because of its far more complex gameplay, like the upgrade system. The original Doom's levels were already paling in comparison to later megawads like HR.

>> No.4830131

>>4829772
there are other sourceports that support other doom engine games

>> No.4830134

>>4830115
The original unpatched game also is totally fucked up on all difficulty levels, the hitscanning enemies are godlike aimbotters with instant reaction times.

>> No.4830135

>>4830127
Don't make us 2016 fans sound like Brutaltards.

>> No.4830139

>>4830115
>I heard the original executable might have a bug in it that prevents doing this.
What I read is that it's tied to the cycles of your computer, so you need to adjust the cycles in DOSBox or else they'll be way too fast for you to shake off.

>> No.4830142

>>4830083
>>4830127
>>>/v/
I found this new place for you to go to.

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>>4830127
>Hell Revealed
>better than Doom 1
Fuck no. People always like to say that the community surpassed id's level design, but relatively very few have actually made levels as tight, memorable, and fun as the original Doom levels. Let alone entire megawads.

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>>4830112
>>4830127
>>4830071
Not that guy, ive Never Played it
- No access to gaming rig
- No access to a console

But from what ive seen in some playthrough clips its shit for a couple reasons - firstly as Doomguy you're already ready for the demon invasion and you yourself are kinda like a borderline demon with a special demonic suit of armor. In terms of a game being like porn when it comes to storyline this is tantamount to the plot in an interracial porn clip.

Second:
Monsters drop items all over the damn place like a fucking pinata. Health and armor or experience points shit like 2 or 3 percent at a time.

As a player of games I want Survival Horror, straining resources and having to make my items count. Not only does this run counter to what I want as a consumer its Just Plain Silly and even less realistic than the demonic invasion is
> if you want to reward the player just vampirically give the player those little item buffs automatically, dont spew little health icons all over the floor
> even Blood did this better by having a bleeding heart dropped on the floor as a +20 medikit

No actually I would like Doom without the Medikits at all. Just give me Soulspheres, Megaspheres, and Berserk Packs.


Third:
I saw a limited amount of the Cyberdemon battle and from what someone posted about the Revenant my mental image of what it does has kinda been ruined.

According to the Wiki the Revenant jumps in the air with a jetpack then fires Actual Rockets down on your position. However if its firing a stream of rockets then these are like weak ass devastator rockets from duke.

I was expecting FULL Damage player rocket launcher rockets that will blast you to pieces if you're too close.

Same with the Cyberdemon battle. Its a wear-you-down kind of boss battle. As opposed to Sudden Death boss battle.

The design of the Cyberdemon is also shit too, he looks thick and bulky but not the alpha-male kind of Stronk that he had in the original games.

>> No.4830153

>>4830148
how do you manage to write all that text about a game you've never played?

>> No.4830156

>>4830148
>I've Never Played it
honestly there's a lot more to pick the game at for than you're letting out in your complaints here. it's very different from the original games tone and gameplay wise, and those two factors alone don't necessarily turn it into a bad game.

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>>4830106
Is there only supposed to be green zombiemen and green chaingunguy's with blue boots? Because that's the only two variants that show up.

>> No.4830167

>>4830148
>Not that guy, ive Never Played it
Why would you invalidate anything you have to say so suddenly like that? You keep that part for near the end.

>> No.4830169 [DELETED] 

Just so you know, this is what happens when you give shitters attnetion.

>> No.4830170

>>4829932
I don't save in vanilla levels, I consider them perfect for pistolstart challenges.
When it comes to wads I do whatever I feel like, many are clearly not designed for repeatable gameplay, which is particular a virtue of all the doom1 maps.

>> No.4830174 [DELETED] 

>>4830167
Just report.

>> No.4830175

>>4830096
but you didn't provide a differing opinion or even what you don't like about it

are you a casual lol

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>>4830148
>The design of the Cyberdemon is also shit too, he looks thick and bulky but not the alpha-male kind of Stronk that he had in the original games.
Agreed. I wish they hadn't moved away from the traditional Satanic imagery instead of going with "chitin, chitin everywhere".

>> No.4830180

>>4830175
Yes, I am.

>> No.4830181
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>>4830148
Im not even talking about wanting Doom 2016 to be like the originals.

If the Revenant has a jetpack so he can jump up and rocket-bomb the player he needs to be able to do that really effectively just like in multiplayer matches. Make him jump up and fire 1 Rocket from each shoulder launcher then come down again. Each rocket causing as much damage as the Player's RL does, since it should be shooting the same ammunition.
It would make this enemy as terrifying as it was in the original game and serve as a cause for players to get-gud. Since they will not be treated any more fairly by other players in deathmatch.

Im all for the Cyberdemon being expanded to have other capabilities but it should still be a Sudden Death fight and I dont like how its pinned into some single hangar bay room. Since the Cyber is the big badass of the game I think it should probably have monster summoning capabilities. Which would compliment a larger battlefield, especially if the Cyber was up on a podium or would jump between platforms because then it can fire Player RL rockets down on the player's position, while spawned monsters flank as the player takes cover.

Could've even taken a chapter out of the book from Quake 2 (Jorg) and had it start shooting BFG blasts when its rocket launcher appendage gets blown off. Heck the cyberdemon could've been given a random weapon each time you encounter it since he's cyber-ized and all, there's no spider mastermind in the game so putting a heavy chaingun on his arm that you actually have to worry about would be just fine.

>>4830167
>>4830153
game design insight

>>4830158
Thats all that's there. But they are smooth versions so I think its a dramatic upgrade compared to the green-uniformed versions ive seen out on the internet.

It takes alot of work to do this kind of thing. I havent even done the shotguy yet, much less other versions of the zombieman or chaingunner.

The chaingunner blue boots remap is the blue range + 4 dark blue shades

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>>4830175
>lol

>> No.4830185

>>4830181
>game design insight for a game i've never played

>> No.4830186

>>4830174
The fuck? I mean, I don't agree with his opinions, but that's hardly a reason to report someone.

>> No.4830189

>>4830181
>game design insight
QUAKE
TO DOOM
DAMAGE CONVERSIONS

>> No.4830190

>>4830186
He dropped his spaghetti right in the first sentence and even if he was legit it still wouldn't be retro.

>> No.4830198 [DELETED] 

I don't care about Doom 2016 and/or any other modern game. They're garbage bags filled with politics and SJW concepts. And they're expensive, closed source, the visuals are confusing due to all the shaders and the useless scenario parts. And they're not even that fun to play. And they're generally kind of depressing. And most often they're about zombies.

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>>4830175
>I take old videogames seriously

>> No.4830208 [DELETED] 

>>4830198
>and SJW concepts
Oh hi /pol/.

>> No.4830213

>>4830198
>politics and SJW concepts
Name one single thing about Doom 2016 that's SJW in any way.

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>>4830208
You don't have to be /pol/ to dislike that kind of stuff. That being said, that guy's comments are still dumb for overgeneralizing like that (how in the fuck does 2016 count here?) and in any case they shouldn't really go in this thread.

>> No.4830221 [DELETED] 

>>4830208
But it's true. I don't want to get too deep into this but the 2016 helmet and suit have been... shaped like a black person. I call it Wakanda 2016.

>> No.4830226

>>4830201
not an argument

>> No.4830227

I smell falseflagging. Or maybe just ol' shitposting.

>> No.4830229

>>4830213
One major thing is that in the '90 horror movies were never about torture. The character get taken by the demon and it dies quickly, the movie goes on. Original Doom is like that. Doom 2016 (and many other morn things) instead put the accent on the suffering you inflict on the poor monters via elaborate, long, repetitive and boring animations. But there's much more I won't disscuss.

>> No.4830236

Doom'16 feels more of a painkiller game than a doom game.
Combat would've been alright... if you could have more than 12 monsters at once that is, but you cant - for instance if you engage the zombies ina cave and appearing imps down further after the first encounter on the Mars surface, but dont kill them and proceed past upgrade bot to the next encounter, they will disappear entirely because next encouner spawns 12 demons and have to despawn whatever you activated prior.
At least graphics are good, but that is not a main merit to me obviously. So overall it is meh.

but dont get me started on nuWolfenstein...
RTCW was 95% a game about shooting nazis, and 5% plot stuff like cutscenes and letters
nuWolf is 60% shooting nazis and 40% is show'n'tell about how nazis are bad and why should you be shooting them (ithout letting you to)
nuWolf2 is 40% about shooting nazis and 60% of cringy "nazi kicked mah puppy" level show'n'tell shit.

>>4830198
shit opinion

>>4830208
sjws are real (look at any non-anonymous social platform) and, sadly, they do have influence over mass media (you have to be really blind not to see it) which unfortunately includes games nowadays. his opinion is shit for other reasons

>> No.4830238 [DELETED] 

>>4830229
>calling something SJW while complaining about the "suffering you inflict on the poor monsters"

>> No.4830239 [DELETED] 

>>4830198
>>4830236
>>4830217

Literally kill yourself, death cultists.

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>>4830239
>death cultists

>> No.4830245 [DELETED] 

>>4830238
The mandatory torture animations you have to watch over and over are intended to traumatize you and make you more sensitive to other people's suffering. It's like watching CNN, but instead you do it voluntarily and even pay for it. That's the magic of modern video games.

>> No.4830247

>>4830239
>says guy in a thread about a game that was in the center of the first violence in videogames scandals

>> No.4830251

>>4830115
Blood's highest difficulty level is intended for co-op play, they never expected you to take it on solo, so it isn't even remotely balanced with that thought.

>> No.4830253

>>4830148
>>4830181
>>4830189
You know, I actually liked some of your Quake-to-Doom conversion ideas and would gladly discuss them again if you want to.

>> No.4830254
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>>4830245

>> No.4830257

the game will still be discussed normally once this absolute shitfest is done with. just a reminder, you earn nothing by shitting your panties in anonimity.

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>>4830189
>>4830253
its quite a leap to believe that I was that guy
but it is correct because I was that guy who was suggesting the doom/quake damage conversion ratios

damaging stuff is a really complex thing to balance, but I have my own take on how things ought to be approached

I made up a concept design years ago for an xcom clone and after doing a fair amount of research I learned some things. For that design I approached the subject of damage in a kinda realistic manner and I wanted to make sure that the weapons were as much reality based as possible rather than giving them arbitrary numbers. The way I chose to Balance the game, ie- the unrealistic aspects of what makes a game compared to a simulation - was to focus on the Armor and its damage reduction values as being the lifeline that the soldiers would have since their vital stats wouldnt be anything more than you might expect someone to actually have.

So I tend to side on the realism and equivalency aspect of things, and apply the actual Balance in another way that might not be immediately apparent. Long time ago that dude suggested what if the RL actually just fired explosive fireballs, having played Blood for the first time recently he must have been describing the Napalm Launcher as an example. But even that could be assessed for its effectiveness against targets and how much area it covers, it was a bad example for him to have used since its a different damage type and thats comparing apples to oranges.

But if you can figure out how effective a Molotov Cocktail is then something like the Napalm Launcher from Blood could be assessed accurately by scaling up a Molotov. It may do more with what it has available but even the higher efficiency of it is an factor that can be tracked.

> Two similarly matched characters, Doomguy and Ranger, can both carry 100 rockets. With a slew of other weapons and ammo. Its fair to see that those rockets are likely comparable to each other.

>> No.4830286

>>4830181
>there's no spider mastermind
The spidermind is literally the final boss of the game.

>> No.4830303

>>4830245
>brutally killing literal inhuman monsters as a gameplay implementation of "RIP AND TEAR" is totally meant to make you feel empathy for women and minorites you guys!

>> No.4830306

>>4829865
It's Chocolate Doom, so I guess it's not technically vanilla

>> No.4830313
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>>4830265
take for example another /vr game Resident Evil 1...

So whats the difference between a 9mm Beretta and a .357 magnum Revolver and why the hell is it doing so much more damage when the difference in firepower is in some cases less than 2x?
So that I can kill a Hunter with maybe 2 or 3 shots from the Magnum but it takes a full 15 round magazine to kill it with the standard pistol (I tested this by catching a hunter separated by a set of stairs in the upper hallway above the clock room, it had to circle around that to reach me and by the time it did I killed it, took 15 shots with the standard pistol).

Well a .357 has maybe 3 things going for it that the 9mm doesnt in that game and one of them is sorta glossed over. The character may explicitly be doing headshots with the magnum while not caring to do so with the 9mm, since none of the zombies ever get their head blown off by the standard pistol.

Also there are practical real life issues that come into play between the two calibers that might make Just Enough difference to place these two weapons so far apart. One factor is Bullet Penetration through meat and the ability to destroy internal structures like the spine, being able to penetrate through to reach them is one thing but the 357 would retain enough force to cause dramatic damage where it matters instead of just nicking it. Another factor is the muzzle energy and the hydrostatic shock effect, shoot a zombie in the head with a 9mm and it might jostle the brains but not destroy them or the primitive part of the brain that the T-Virus is still using to control the body. But the .357 has enough energy it will cavitate the head, just like the shotgun, and in doing so it will destroy every part of the brain blowing its head off even though several 9mm shots to the head weren't enough to cause that.
With the Hunters it could be much like it is with Bears and other wildlife, where the skull is just too thick to penetrate with the 9mm.

>> No.4830314

>>4830245
I seriously doubt the projection of anyone's beliefs was on the agenda when Doom was being made.

is just bideo game
don't read too deep into it

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Glossy BFG made by Apple. So it's now iBFG

>> No.4830325

Thanks for remindind me to update my filter, slavnig!

>> No.4830336 [DELETED] 

>>4830236
Not really, you're just immersed in your special narrative derived from alt-right websites and see muh suuhuujuw everywhere. I'm more tired of pseudo-conservative reactionary retards online, personally.

>> No.4830337

its like the worst parts of tormentor667 detiling teachings condensed into one image
look at that overdetailed ceiling lol

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Can anyone tell me why multiplayer deathmatch maps tend to have exits in them? Like a switch hidden behind a little door that ends the level. It seems common so it must do something useful, but I can't imagine why you'd want to just run there and end the match mid-game, instead of just leaving the game or something.

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>>4830179
"I.. I don't have much time left.."

>> No.4830343 [DELETED] 

>>4830336
okay, recent, freshest example: Miss Universe swimsuit competition removal
explain that

>> No.4830345

>>4830320
Where are the tits?

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>>4830336
Please stop feeding him.

>> No.4830350

>>4830343
Literally who cares

>> No.4830357 [DELETED] 

>>4830336
It's normal for people under heavy mind control to react like you just did, trying to ridicule and insult the person who pointed that out. But don't worry, in time you too will be able to break the conditioning. The fact that you're on /vr/ is a good sign that at least instinctively you know that modern video games are laced with political poison.

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>>4830345
Maybe next time I'll change all doom monsters to anime monsterwaifus with tits.

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>>4830358
There is a not particularly funny joke that the BFG has tits. I guess you didn't get it or have not heard it before. Never mind.

>> No.4830368 [DELETED] 

>>4830357
Uhh, no, I just like old games, please don't associate your retarded beliefs with me. I'm very left-wing economically.

>> No.4830376 [DELETED] 

>>4830368
I was thinking about making a mod where insted of the Bersek Pack, you have the Bernie Pack. When you get it, health becomes socialized and if you shoot a monster, all the other monsters and you lose health. And if you find a med kit, you have to share it with the monsters. I haven't worked out the details yet.

>> No.4830391

>all these people feeding false info on blood's difficulty levels
they're inverted

>> No.4830393

>>4830346
The mods aren't going to take out one of their own, anon.

>> No.4830397

>>4830179
>chitin everywhere
for fuck sakes they're demons
there's no reason to pander to the xenofag's fetish

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>>4830313
>since none of the zombies ever get their head blown off by the standard pistol
Sure about that? I definitely remember popping some tops with the Beretta pistol.
Or maybe it only does that in REmake.

I think the Magnum revolver also had the ability to throw enemies on their asses, hence why when you're running your ass off at the end, it's good for just knocking hunters and shit out of the way without bothering with killing them, because you're just running for it.

>One factor is Bullet Penetration through meat and the ability to destroy internal structures like the spine, being able to penetrate through to reach them is one thing but the 357 would retain enough force to cause dramatic damage where it matters instead of just nicking it.
Honestly, with both 9mm Luger and .357 Magnum, if you hit the spine, that's going to have some kind of paralyzing effect, if not total, quite possibly everything below, and if not permanent, then for well long enough that you could either just execute them or leave them and not worry.
Zombie fiction seriously underrates, often even ignoring, the ability for gunshot wounds to seriously cripple, regardless of killing.

It doesn't matter if you don't feel pain, or if you don't even bleed out, if someone shoots your hip with a 7.62mm rifle, you're NEVER walking with that leg again.

>hydrostatic shock
Hydrostatic shock is an utter meme. Penetration depth, cavitation, and shot placement, is entirely what matters.

>shoot a zombie in the head with a 9mm and it might jostle the brains but not destroy them or the primitive part of the brain that the T-Virus is still using to control the body.
True, probably, they aren't exactly using the speech center or pineal gland or anything, they're mindless eating machines.

>> No.4830403

>>4830393
This. sorry anon, they're going to ban us both for saying this, and me for warning you.

>> No.4830404

test

>> No.4830405

>>4830265
>its quite a leap to believe that I was that guy
Your way of greentexting gives you up, man.

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>>4830313
>But the .357 has enough energy it will cavitate the head, just like the shotgun, and in doing so it will destroy every part of the brain blowing its head off even though several 9mm shots to the head weren't enough to cause that.
I don't know about that, you hit the right spot with even .22 caliber pistol, or even use birdshot at muzzle contact distance, you'd do the trick. Failing that, putting one in his neck, he'll lose the use of his body no matter how technically alive he is.

Also there's lots of good loads for 9mm Luger, there's +P 147gr hollowpoints, Swedish m/39b, all kinds of fun stuff that would definitely improve terminal ballistics.
There's more than 115gr and 124gr generic ball ammo.

>With the Hunters it could be much like it is with Bears and other wildlife, where the skull is just too thick to penetrate with the 9mm.
Well, yes, but you don't aim for a bear's skull when he charges you, it's really thick, sloped and has a double layer with a large sinus cavity going in it. The chance for even something powerful like .300WinMag or .270 Winchester has a serious chance to deflect against the angle of the skull, or fail to penetrate both layers.
You aim for his chest/'torso', hoping to hit his hearts, lungs, or to cause so much bloodloss so fast that he just keels over.

>> No.4830413 [DELETED] 

Forgot a few.

>> No.4830420 [DELETED] 

>>4830376
Not a bad idea, but call it the Jezza Pack instead, Bernie was always just a succdem opportunist. Corbyn's the one craftily accelerating us to socialism right now.

>> No.4830423 [DELETED] 

>>4830336
>>4830343
>>4830346
>>4830350
>>4830357
>>4830368
>>4830376
>>4830393
>>4830403
Please don't. Faggots from both ends of the spectrum are insufferable and their self righteous speeches have no place in this thread.

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>>4830365
it definitely has a cervix though

>>4830402
Yeah in Res Evil 3 you get an M4 carbine and you can plug away at zombies, but because of ninja-fu trope it really just doesnt do much damage to them compared to single shots with something smaller. Even though its got just as much physical capability to damage as a magnum.
Though in silent hill 1&2 at least the part of using a hunting rifle is accurate since that is the strongest weapon of the set. The slow fire rate and low capacity are also believable since its not a PTR-91 or FAL, its just a standard bolt like you'd find in any sporting goods section, or a 4 shot browning semi-auto at best.

>>4830405
My reasoning still stands, and if the 2:1 ratio on damage is to be understood then it implies that Ranger is at least twice as strong as Doomguy because his 100 health is equal to Doomguy at 200. And with a mega health and red armor he's practically unstoppable since the red armor absorbs 80%.

So I dont know why people were pissing all over me for that. Mostly I was suggesting that Ranger's shotguns are 20 gauge due to damage differentials but all this does is allows him to fire them faster because of the lower recoil.
And suggesting that the nailguns especially the SNG are even more dangerous than the plasma rifle (partly because plasma clips too many objects).

Rockets really seem to be the key to that exchange ratio. Because they arent piss-tiny rockets like the ones the Mod-3 shoots in FEAR. When the blast pattern is so close in size as demonstrated in the two games it suggests they have a similar strength too.

>> No.4830451

>>4830201
wow, funny seeing that pic here

>> No.4830459 [DELETED] 

>>4830245
>This game is more PC because it's even more graphic than other games in the series.

>> No.4830460

>>4829967
>Would you guys change anything on this?

Yes, everything.

>> No.4830474

>>4830391
Damage scaling is inverted.

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Super super super super early WIP but I thought putting in Ride Armors would be super cool. The Ride Armors in MMX were awesome but didn't get a lot of love.
The invulnerability basically gives you free reign to kick ass for about 30 seconds, so it'd be easy to just make it some kind of energy field or something, but I played through X1 and X3 recently and I was suuuper in love with roaming around in Ride Armors. So I thought it'd be awesome if you could get one of your own.

https://my.mixtape.moe/xpkpdl.webm

>> No.4830483

>>4829967
>>4830460 (me)

And just for the sake of not looking like an asshole, here are my suggestions (I'm not around my PC)

>Doom 2
A screenshot of John Wick reloading his gun.

>TFC
A GIF of that guy sitting in front of his computer going "OH FUCK NOT AGAIN", and then going "it's okay". Because that's how Episode 4 feels in general.

Also, changing the file format to GIF might be beneficial for the sake of making Plutonia and Chaingunner jokes

I would also include Doom RPG and make it a picture of a flip phone with the same exact picture in Doom 3

>> No.4830492 [DELETED] 

prolly old news and bs but

>rumors going around that a sequal to doom 2016 will be announced at bethesdas e3 conference tonight

thoughts?

>> No.4830493

>>4830492
not retro

>> No.4830494 [DELETED] 

>>4830492
Hopeful, but not expecting it because of Rage 2.

>> No.4830498 [DELETED] 

>>4830492
please dont rape us again bethesDURR

>> No.4830513 [DELETED] 

>>4830494
So we're gonna get the second half of that half-game after all these years?

>> No.4830514 [DELETED] 

>>4830492
Maybe they'll tease it, but it's not gonna be getting a trailer until next year.
Also some people are calling it "Doom 2", which makes me angry.

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Do cacodemons look cool with PBR materials? I used CrazyBump generator.

>> No.4830535 [DELETED] 

>>4830513
What I'm really hoping for is that they take what's good about Rage, and keep it, and then they look at all that wasn't good, and figure out how to fix it, to finally make Rage the game it should have been.

I'm afraid though, that maybe they won't, and maybe Rage 2 will be even more flawed than Rage.

>> No.4830536

>>4830529
That is an *obscenely* ugly screenshot.

>> No.4830545

>>4830529
blur and chromatic aberration hurt my eyes so much that im not willing to look at the picture longer than 3 seconds

>> No.4830548

>>4830148
>>4830179
>>4830397
How would describe the design evolution for demons over the course of the franchise? OG Doom is definitely traditionally Satanic mixed with cyborg tech, and Doom 2016 is more chitinous, less traditionally Satanic. How would Doom 3 demon aesthetics be described?

>> No.4830556

>>4830548
They wouldn't because nobody can fucking see them

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What's your opinion on 10-Years-Younger Betruger?

>> No.4830563

>>4830338
Vanilla Doom multiplayer didn't actually have a score keeping system (in the sense that the game automatically ends when X score is reached) implemented so the exits were there so players could decide on "first to X wins" then leave the map when that was finished.

Modern multiplayer ports (zandronum and the like) have since implemented those systems so now when you hit those exits in deathmatch it frags you instead.

>> No.4830564 [DELETED] 

>>4830561
who

>> No.4830579 [DELETED] 

>>4830564
dr. malcom betruger but not as old as in doom 3.
10 years is a long time so him balding, losing an eye, and putting on weight isn't unlikely.
Also demons.

>> No.4830582 [DELETED] 

>>4830561
Could just be a reference rather than the actual character (like "Dr Carmack" from doom movie 1)

>> No.4830587 [DELETED] 

>>4830582
Honestly it's doubtful considering a lot of the material has him in varying states of decay.
One of them has a lot more wrinkles in the face, and the unkempt, balding hair makes him look more stressed

>> No.4830593 [DELETED] 

Well that was fairly rude.

>> No.4830596 [DELETED] 

Based jannie deleting posts about the movie based on the retro game this general is dedicated to

>> No.4830605 [DELETED] 

>>4830596
This isn't /tv/ and all those spinoff medias are stupid as shit.

>> No.4830606 [DELETED] 

>>4830593
It's understandable though, given the current events going on, this is prime time for people to post shit to get other people really, really angry.
I personally don't mind the talk of other stuff like that, but there's always a few people that lose their fucking minds over it and then the thread derails after they have a fit. So I can understand janitors just snipping that shit before it even starts

>> No.4830613 [DELETED] 

>>4830593
>>4830596
Your asses are literally fucking gaping because you can't get away with literally everything you want to say here unlike on /v/

>> No.4830617 [DELETED] 

>>4830613
And thank you based backseat jannie. It's definitely me that's pissed off and taking things too seriously lol.

>> No.4830621
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>>4830536
Maybe the map is shit. Here's a screenshot from original doom 1 level.

>> No.4830627

>>4830605
besides the perfect actor for that character would be
Stacy Keach
But he may be getting too old now. He looks alot like him and he does a good job of being a menacing actor.

>>4830410
By Cavitate the head I mean pop it like a water balloon. That is "blow his head off". Thats where hydrostatic shock comes into play because it would cause enough intra-cranial hydraulic pressure to fracture the skull, split the scalp and cause it all to pop under pressure. Even a .40sw can sorta do this and I believe a .45acp can because of causing a big enough entrance hole.
Ive literally never heard of a 9mm causing it though. And a .380, .32acp, or .22 will just get lodged in the brain.

Ive never heard of a 5.56mm popping someone's head off either but according to the massive hydrostatic shock from it I dont see how it couldn't. I know for a fact a 7.62mm will.

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>>4830479
Nice.

>> No.4830641 [DELETED] 

>>4830613
Remind us why you're so angry, then?

>> No.4830645 [DELETED] 

>>4830641
I was making an observation.

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>>4830621
>ShotgunFix

>> No.4830672

>>4830251
bloodGDX has a custom difficulty, crank up that enemy count slider and leave the rest on lightly broiled ('medium')

that one blood autist (you know the guy) always plays on extra crispy but he has all the enemy placements in every level memorized

>> No.4830685

>>4830548
More on the Giger-esque bizarre end, I suppose?

>> No.4830710

>>4830685
So more overtly biomechanical? Do you think id would've gone that route in the original Doom if the tech of the time would've allowed it? They clearly weren't strangers to the Giger biomechanical aesthetic since they did want to do an Aliens game prior to Doom. Or do you think it was because Adrian Carmack wanted to stick to traditional Satanic demon imagery?

>> No.4830716

>>4830710
An actual aliens+doom crossover would logistically work.
Prove me wrong without making it shit on purpose

>> No.4830728

>>4830710
I honestly don't think so. Part of my distaste for Banned-Doom is that it fails to capture the original "Realistic-Cartoon"-esque artstyle

>> No.4830756

>>4830728
I don't think they were trying to strictly ape a pre-existing style more than they were using it as a point of reference. they obviously took a lot of liberties with their enemy designs.

>> No.4830758

tim willits on stream.

>> No.4830760

>>4830728
doom 2016 gets discussed here at random
the shitflinging /v/ crossboarders not being welcome anywhere is a different thing

>> No.4830761

>>4830758
la calvicie...

>> No.4830775

HELL ON EARTH BABYYYYYY

>> No.4830778

CONFIRMED

>> No.4830779

>pain elemental
>archville
get hype

>> No.4830782

that's a lame name, should've been Doom Hell on Earth.

>> No.4830783

I M G O N N A C U M B O I S

>> No.4830784

>>4830779
Hell knights with some blade shit and arachnotrons too
Dang
>>4830782
I was expecting that too

>> No.4830786

D55M

>> No.4830791

>>4830782
that's doom 2 name tho

>> No.4830794

>>4830791
obviously, d44m also had the same name as doom 1, and nobody calls doom 2 hell on earth outside of wiki articles anyway, nor does d55m have the 2 in the title.

>> No.4830801

Oh, fuck, Doom 5's coming?
Good shit.

shame it's not retro

>> No.4830802

I'm actually slightly warming up on the name. Doom Eternal. It sounds sorta cool in a way, like a bible passage or an album name.

Maybe I'm just lame

>> No.4830804

it's just eternal doom but backwards

i like it

>> No.4830809

doomslayer is eternal
he cannot be stopped

>> No.4830813

So, when do we get to kill that cyborg fucker, Hayden?

>> No.4830816

>>4830813
I hope we get to use the big ass energy sword

>> No.4830817

>uniform resembles the classic color scheme a lot more
>sleeveless doomguy
yes.

yes thank you very much.

>> No.4830819

>>4830529
Crazybump is okay, but kinda pointless. There are a million and one free normal map/bumpmap generators out there.

>> No.4830824

>>4830817
Was he really sleeveless? Suit musta gotten fucked

>> No.4830829

>>4830824
well it's actually just his biceps.
but at least he looks more like in his original incarnation.

also holy shit, inb4 doom eternal comments on eternal doom gameplay videos.

>> No.4830831

>>4830529
For what it's worth, that Cacodemon doesn't look too bad.
Probably looks like shit in motion, though.

>> No.4830837

>>4830775
>>4830778
>>4830779
>>4830782
>>4830783
>>4830784
>>4830786
>>4830791
>>4830794
>>4830801
>>4830802
>>4830804
>>4830809
>>4830813
>>4830817
...what?
The heck are you talking about?

>> No.4830840

>>4830837
E3's on, my dude.
They announced the new Doom.

>> No.4830841

>>4830837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oVwrpfo_QA

>> No.4830842

>>4830837
New Doom game just got announced at E3.

>> No.4830850

I wonder what the doom eternal namesake is for. If it's PWAD compatability I'm loose my shit in joy

>> No.4830854

>>4830841
heyy the arachnotron is back as well as the pain elemental and archville

>> No.4830858

>>4830850
That's almost definitely never going to happen.
Fun idea, but never going to happen.

>> No.4830862

>>4830850
it's just cause doom is eternal

>> No.4830869

For those of you wondering, they said there would be Doom Eternal gameplay and more info at Quakecon in August.

>> No.4830873

>>4830840
>>4830841
>>4830842
Huh, neat.

>> No.4830874

I wonder if the Archvile will actually revive demons or will just do the fire fuckery
>>4830869
As expected
Wonder if we're gonna have to wait until after next E3 for release

>> No.4830875

>Doom Eternal is technically Doom 64 3.
I ain't even mad.

>> No.4830876
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4830876

>>4830850
>yfw it actually is compatible with the old WAD/PK3 formatting and completely phases out GZDoom

>> No.4830881

So I take it will be impossible to find videos of Eternal Doom from now?

>> No.4830883

>>4830881
it's ass anyways

>> No.4830884

>>4830874
It's probably a year out at best, unless they're building it on D44M beta assets.

>> No.4830890

Not retro.

...but who gives a fuck? DOOM ETERNAL, BABY!

>> No.4830891

There better be an Entryway remix

>> No.4830898
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4830898

>> No.4830905

Apparently Sargento Marquitos is liking it so far.

>> No.4830906

>>4830898
Did the Archvile get a promotion?

>> No.4830907

>>4830898
HOLY KEK
jokes aside
>classic looking imps
>arachnotrons
>pain elementals
MY FUCKING DICK

>> No.4830909

>>4830874
Imagine how badass it would look to see the gibs of an enemy reform though

>> No.4830913
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4830913

>>4830898
Took me a while. Kek, nice job. Original pic pls?

>> No.4830915

>>4830898
the arms on that pain elemental are disturbing, looking forward to seeing more of it

>>4830913
it's just a cap from the trailer that's already been posted

>> No.4830929

>>4830898
kek
Helmet looks different now
>>4830907
>>classic looking imps
I didn't even realize, what
DESU I liked both the e3 and the fruity imps but these look nice

>> No.4830935

>>4830898
I'm digging the PE's Predator-mouth though.

>>4830929
The whole suit looks a lot different. It's bare-armed like classic Doomguy. Makes me wonder if this is some kind of prequel.

>> No.4830945
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4830945

>>4830898
Kek

>> No.4830946

>>4830905
i can't possibly see why, considering literally nothing has been shown in terms of gameplay

so mark is probably either faking it, or he liked it the whole time and was just trying to start a hate train to bring more attention to himself

>> No.4830947

>>4830915
>disturbing
CUTE
>>4830935
I doubt it, I think dg's shit just got wrecked
Maybe it ends with a "this has happened before and it will happen again" sort of deal, which is a lot of people's headcanons

>> No.4830948

>>4830935
i dont think it makes sense for this to be a prequel
i mean hell got unleashed in the previous one, now it's come to earth i assume

>> No.4830954
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4830954

So what kind of gameplay can you see the new Archie and Pain Elemental having?

>> No.4830958

>>4830946
From the YT comments:
>Arch-Vile, Pain Elemental, Arachnotron, imps looking more similar to the original ones... seems like Doomguy uses the original armor from the classic games, Earth setting (which hints at bigger maps, and hopefully faster player movement than D2016)... I like where this is going.

>> No.4830959

>>4830954
Hopefully less annoying ones than in vanilla

>> No.4830967

>The demonic invasion is still in progress. Announced at the 2018 Bethesda E3 Showcase, DOOM Eternal is the direct sequel to the award-winning and best-selling DOOM (2016). Developed by id Software, DOOM Eternal will deliver the ultimate combination of speed and power, along with the next leap in push-forward, first-person combat.
>As the DOOM Slayer, you’ll return to take your vengeance against the forces of Hell. Set to an all-new pulse-pounding soundtrack composed by Mick Gordon, you’ll fight across dimensions as you slay new and classic demons with powerful new weapons and abilities

>> No.4830968

>>4830958
Sorta doubt they would go for bigger maps, but I would be ok with that
And faster... I don't know man. I liked the pace

>> No.4830969

>>4830841
>those destroyed skyscrapers at the end
So it really is D44M 2: Hell On Earth
Hype as fuck

>> No.4830971

>>4830959
Considering the fact that Rage 2 now, and Doom 4 had, wave based combat arenas, I'm suspecting that the Archie would/could only respawn the enemies that were most recent. If the summoner is still there, that means we could have continually respawning and spawning enemies at the same time, with Pain elementals that spawn lost souls.

So, it could be fucked real fast, but I think they've got their head wrapped around how arena combat should feel. I think they nailed it with Doom 4.

>> No.4830972

>>4830841
I wonder if those tentacles are also going to be new enemies.

>> No.4830973

>>4830968
I'm hoping for more big, interconnected, multi-tiered levels like the foundry. The latter half of D44M was way too linear.

>> No.4830974

>>4830969
>>4830972
Dude I'm a fucking sucker for that shit, I love it
It would be cool as a bossfight maybe like Quake's ending but good but as scenery alone I love it

>> No.4830975
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4830975

>>4830967

>> No.4830976

>>4830968
yeah I could see them being conscious of this though and trying to do some larger spaces to improve upon the original, i imagine they've be trying to incorporate some of the feedback they've gotten where possible
and yeah they aren't gonna arbitrarily increase your movement speed, you move faster than most other FPS games today anyway

>> No.4830979

>>4830898
Well, Hellrazers were not nearly as bad as the Chaingunners they (presumably) replaced, and the new Revenants were a lot more tolerable. Hopefully they can make the remaining two Doom II enemies less cancerous as well.

>> No.4830980

>>4830975
new wallpaper

>> No.4830982
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4830982

>>4830975
logo

>> No.4830983

>>4830973
I agree. Also they locked you out of backtracking way too much.

Foundry is definitely a great level
>>4830975
Yesss

>> No.4830984

>>4830801
Maybe it isn't retro itself, but I can replay Doom 4 some, also it gets me pumped to mod harder again!

>> No.4830985

>>4830972
>>4830974
I suppose they represent the fleshy textures used for corruption in classic Doom, right? I'm liking them a lot.

>>4830975
Fucking awesome.

>> No.4830990
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4830990

>>4830979
>enemies being unique & challenging is "cancerous"
gg

>> No.4830991

>>4830782
>>4830791
And Doom (2016) should have been named Doom 4.

What about Doom: Infernal Earth?

>> No.4830993
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4830993

>>4830804
Oh no, not switch hunting!

>> No.4830997
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4830997

>>4830972

>> No.4830998
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4830998

guys

if its called doom eternal, then the "eternal" could play into a lot of of what features/mechanics itll have. maybe a bigger/open world, more complex snap or maybe, just maybe.......


proper mod tools?

>> No.4831001

>>4830982
Sorta lame
>>4830979
Hellrazers were so bad on every respect lol
>remaining two Doom II enemies
three

>> No.4831006

>>4830998
man i fucking hate this,
now we gotta wait for fucking months and we'll just be left speculating on shit for ages that'll probably never happen

>> No.4831008

>>4831006
>now we gotta wait for fucking months
Not really, we're getting gameplay this Quakecon.

>> No.4831010

>>4830991
that's even lamer.

>> No.4831012

>>4830958
so all he cares about is graphics shit

ok

>> No.4831013

>>4830909
>spend a precious fuel unit to split a hellknight from the skull down to the torso
>watch archie do his mojo, hellknight reversing the split with a gross, almost sexual sound

>> No.4831014

>>4831008
That's still months away. But who knows, maybe they'll tell some stuff about the game before that, maybe during the rest of E3

>> No.4831015
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4831015

>>4831001
Why is everyone forgetting the Arachnotron?

>> No.4831016

>>4831008
...which is months from now.

>> No.4831017

>>4831014
see>>4830967

>> No.4831018

>>4831016
Barely!

>> No.4831020

>>4831013
hmmm... yeah I reckon they may tweak the arch a bit, too many people these days would get pissed off with that
they might make him just res weaker enemies?

>> No.4831023

>>4830990
Fuck you hitscanners suck ass, archviles suck dick, and pain elementals are as tedious and awful as the lost souls they shit out.

>>4831001
Yeah, they hurt if they hit you but their aim was shit so it kinda killed the threat. Same with the new Revenants.
>three
Oops. Well, Arachnotrons are pretty fun to fight since they use projectiles, won't mind them coming back.

>> No.4831024

>>4831020
Just make it so bigger guys take longer and that resurrect can be interrupted if you're fast enough.

>> No.4831025

>>4831015
Poor lil guy.
Seems like he doesn't shoot plasma from his nether regions anymore

>> No.4831026

>>4831024
that's a good solution

>> No.4831027
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4831027

>>4831023

>> No.4831028

>>4831023
Considering what they did to the former humans, I think it's safe to assume that they probably won't want to turn the archie into a hitscan monster again.

>> No.4831030

>>4831023
>Fuck you hitscanners suck ass,
We proved that they're objectively good a while back, it was a massive 24-or-so paragraph argument.

>> No.4831031

I'm actually feeling it now, SpongeBob.

>> No.4831032

>>4831023
nope hitscanners compliment the doom bestiary wonderfully

>> No.4831036

>>4831028
True, true. Shotgunners still exist, but...

>> No.4831037

>>4831028
Archie's gimmick is perfect, it forces you to take cover beyond everything else, there's so many fucking possibilities for encounters that it's insane.

>>4831032
Exactly. It's like people forget that shotgunners and chaingunners are super volatile in how prone they are for friendly fire and starting bitchfits.
Trick them into firing into some imps or that baron of hell over there, the fight now changes radically.

>> No.4831039

>>4831023
>Fuck you hitscanners suck ass, archviles suck dick, and pain elementals are as tedious and awful as the lost souls they shit out.
Why are you in the Doom general if you hate most of the enemies in Doom?

>> No.4831043

>>4831030
>>4831032
>>4831037
While I do agree with that, it's also worth noting that guys at id decided to nerf the shit out of hitscan monsters for the following games.

>> No.4831045

i'll only buy eternal if it's basically DRLA

>> No.4831048

>>4830479
fuckin nice

>> No.4831049

>>4831045
In which way? Rogue-like randomization? Difficulty based monsters? Classes? Weapon crafting?

>> No.4831052

>>4831037
>how prone they are for friendly fire and starting bitchfits.
They'll most certainly shoot you before that, especially if they aren't placed in a way that they can be manipulated to hit each other, like the extremely common window-on-building-sniper and balconies. Plus even if they're grouped in a way that you can make them infight, it doesn't by any means guarantee that you'll leave unscathed, because the guy closest to you can still hit you first if he's not interrupted by his mates, more so if there's lots of hitscanners.

>> No.4831054

>>4831049
All of the above.
Especially if it's a case of "do thing, get new gun in future/current playthrough"
i love that gay shit

>> No.4831057

>>4831045
>>4830967
>you’ll fight across dimensions
Oh boy

>> No.4831058

>>4831054
But what kind of classes could we have other than the Doomslayer himself?

>> No.4831059

>>4831045
not happening, so

>> No.4831061

So I guess I can't jump in vanilla Doom II, but there's a bunch of weapons and powerups in places I have to jump to to get? what gives? why did they put that stuff there if you couldn't originally jump?

>> No.4831062

>>4831061

You can get there without jumping.

>> No.4831063

>>4831061
What do you mean? There's always routes to take to get to the good stuff.

>> No.4831067
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4831067

caco has a pupil now.

>> No.4831069

>>4831062
How do I get on that ledge in the first part of Doom II without jumping or cheating? I'm curious because I'm trying to beat the PS1 version of Doom on nightmare mode and it really helps to have the chainsaw in the first level.

>> No.4831071

>>4831069
Do you mean the ledge you start on...?

>> No.4831073

>>4831067
nice catch.

>> No.4831075

>>4831045
>>4831054
well it's not going to be anything like that so just keep waiting for 1.1

>> No.4831079

>>4831069
You fucking start on that ledge!!!

>> No.4831080

>>4831069
Like the spot that opens up the rocket launcher spot? Just run off the lift and land on it.

>> No.4831081

>>4831058
crash, phobos and chubbs obviously

>> No.4831082

>>4831057
yeah so I get we won't just be stuck on earth and we'll get to see more than hell?

>> No.4831083

>>4831075
>keep waiting for 1.1
That's a myth.

>> No.4831086

>>4831069
is this a troll or

>> No.4831095

Doom Eternal was the only good thing about Bethesda today (but I'm happy for the Elder Scroll fans). Even the devs. All the other devs had a long speech, but the Doom boys were just
>hey you like that?
>see you in August

>> No.4831101

>>4831095
I was so happy to see Hugo up there, but I hope people don't get the wrong impression of him

>> No.4831103

>>4831052
>They'll most certainly shoot you before that
No way, fag, back behind some cover to break their line of sight, then rush out and place yourself so your target is between them and you.

I do it all the time and it works like a charm.

>> No.4831104
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4831104

inb4 Doom Eternal has checkpoints instead of quicksaves

I still havent finished Doom 2016 because I stopped playing after missing a secret in a level and had to start the level over because I hit a checkpoint and couldn't go back.

>> No.4831105

>>4831045
>randomized monsters
>randomized levels
>randomized everything
No thanks, that's garbage, I don't want another Shadow Warrior 2.

>> No.4831109

>>4831067
>imp looks more classic

>> No.4831112

>>4831039
I can still like a game despite having criticisms of it.

>>4831037
>take cover
This is literally why I hate modern shooters and why DOOM 4 was a breath of fresh air. I like the idea of using mobility to survive and an enemy that pins you into a tiny box pisses me off. It's one thing to use the environment to separate the enemy encounters so they're easy to deal with, but you have to straight-up hide from the Archvile.
I've played WADs that use Archviles in a way that didn't suck but the fact that Archvile encounters can turn so shitty when you don't know what you're doing with your level design I think speaks to some issues with the monster.

>> No.4831113

>>4831079
>>4831071
oh...........................oh yeah

>> No.4831114

>>4831082
I think it just means we're gonna go back to hell, and then back again repeat?
>>4831045
>>4831105
Seems that's the deal with the Prey thing, isn't it?

>> No.4831116

I'm making a Quake map for the first time and I keep trying to make neat shapes by moving around vertices, but most of the time they just refuse to move where I want them to. Are there strict limits on what shapes / how complex individual brushes can be?

>> No.4831121

>>4831112
>This is literally why I hate modern shooters and why DOOM 4 was a breath of fresh air.
Why is taking cover bad? I never suggested you had to run for cover, and then go stay there, that's not what you do in Doom, because enemies will try to advance to where you are at all times.

You run, strafe and dodge, then dive in and out of cover briefly.

>I like the idea of using mobility to survive and an enemy that pins you into a tiny box pisses me off.
Don't stay pinned?

>It's one thing to use the environment to separate the enemy encounters so they're easy to deal with, but you have to straight-up hide from the Archvile.
I don't think that's a bad thing, if you combine that with other monsters, that can make for really intense and nervewracking fights where you have to deal with the other monsters while desperately staying out of his line of sight.

It's so intense, I love it.

>> No.4831140

>download winquake from http://psn.quake.net/software.html
>wonder why it doesn't work
lmao

>> No.4831145

>>4831121
So maybe I'm getting a little overly pissed here from shitty megaWAD experiences (especially when used in traps). Still, I don't like Archviles, they make me salty and I find them a pain and they are the number one cause of death for me. I'd rather fight a cyberdemon in a small room.

>because enemies will try to advance to where you are at all times
Now that you mention this, I realize they can't make the Archvile in Doom 5 the same as Doom 2 since Pinkies are way faster and both knights and barons are a LOT more deliberate about rushing you down and smashing your face in.

>> No.4831147

>>4831140
make who needs quakespasm, winquake looks dope at 320x200

>> No.4831174
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4831174

funny to think this stupid little mockup I spruced up of Doomguy's design two years ago ended up becoming an official thing.

holy shit, I think I called it.

>> No.4831213

>>4831147
>make who needs quakespasm
anyone who wants to play maps released in the past 10 years that exceed vanilla map limits, presumably

>> No.4831223

I suppose the Icon of Sin is going to be the final boss, but I wonder what other bosses will they toss at us before that? I'm hoping for one of those huge titan monsters.

>inb4 it's just cybies and masterminds again

>> No.4831226
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4831226

>>4830898
Looking at the Barons with their wrist blades reminds me that when DOOM's beta was datamined all that time ago, there was code reference to the Hell Knights and Barons possessing some kind of scythe weapon thing similar to the Cyberdemon. Really makes the noggin joggin...

>> No.4831229

Is it possible to make certain textures )Like magma, or those dark metallic ones with something like a lamp on the top) into light sources?
I imagine lightmaps could be used for any texture, but I'm not sure they can do that.

>> No.4831230 [DELETED] 

>>4831213
>maps released in the past 10 years
NOT RETRO

>> No.4831231

>>4831223
Wasn't the Icon's remains shown in 2016 though?

>> No.4831232
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4831232

>>4831230

>> No.4831234

>>4831231
Yeah, but I think the game codex hinted at its return or something.

>> No.4831243

>>4831230
Obviously a joke, there must be a blanket ban on accusing things of not being retro now?
Weird, but guess that's a good thing, it's usually just pointless shit-flinging and the mods will sort it out if it's against the rules anyway.

>> No.4831270

>>4830841
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60759
Hope it isn't only arena fights this time around.

>> No.4831273

>>4831270
what's that link about

>> No.4831278

>>4831270
It was the last page I was browsing, I must of accidentally hit crtl+v without realizing it. Sometimes I just type away without really paying attention to anything.

>> No.4831290

>>4831278
I appreciate the link anyway, I'd been too lazy to look this mod up

>> No.4831308

>>4830975
reminds me of the Hell levels of Ghostbusters

>> No.4831312

>>4831229
Not actual emission maps, but brightmaps absolutely.

>> No.4831379

NIGGA IT'S FUCKING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.4831383

>>4831379
You're late.

>> No.4831392

>>4830854
>Arachno's design influenced by D64

>> No.4831394

>>4831383
NIGGA I'M STILL HYPED

>> No.4831404

>>4831308
more like the pentagrams in Winnie the Pooh right

>> No.4831405

Public notice: The most recent Quake 100 brush contest is quality.

>> No.4831407

I wonder what Doom Eternal's effect on mods like MetaDoom or D4D will be.
Also, the SSG had blades on it.

>> No.4831413

>>4831404
ebin shitpost

>> No.4831415

>>4831413
I was mocking your post, not the pic lmao

>> No.4831419

>>4831407

D4D is already confirmed to be nicking stuff, apparently.

>> No.4831421

>>4831407
Will we ever get a DED

>> No.4831425
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4831425

>>4831405
Can confirm, is quality, playing through right now but also just died to a Gug doing its shockwave what I thought was half a map away but was apparently right underneath me and the teleport just made it look further so that's really infuriating.

>> No.4831426

>>4831421
detachable electro dick? why would you need one of those?

>> No.4831438

>>4831392
Shame they didn't give the PE three mouths tho

>> No.4831459

>>4831415
ebin shitpost

>> No.4831469

>>4831459
same, tbqh!

>> No.4831490
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4831490

I MADE THIS FOR YOU!

>> No.4831492

>>4831490
This feels like a YTMND. I love it.

>> No.4831502
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4831502

>>4831405
Dumptruck's map is cute.
Shame it's ranked lower.

>> No.4831505

>>4831490
>dat cacodemon
Lost it so bad. Should use that in a YLYL thread someday.

>> No.4831509

>>4830975
>Worms
We FreeDoom now

>> No.4831512

>>4831490
Excellent.

>> No.4831523
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4831523

Can we all agree that DOOM Eternal is kind of a lousy name, it's honestly so forgettable that it almost slipped my mind already.

At least they weren't mad enough to call it DOOM 2, that would've been so much worse.

>> No.4831525

>>4831523
Nope

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4831527

>>4831525
Fine

>> No.4831528

>>4831523
Yep

>> No.4831543

>>4831523
> we shall doom eternal, shiny and chrome

>> No.4831549

Doom 2 Remastered

https://youtu.be/ULt42ahwUII

>> No.4831575

>>4831502
>playing quake
>jumping a lot
>girlfriend asks what that terrible sound is
:^)

>> No.4831579
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4831579

>> No.4831610

>>4831575
>HUUHN OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS

>> No.4831613

Riddle me this. If Spider Mastermind is bigger and higher up the totem pole than Arachnotrons, why does the former fire a more primitive weapon?

>> No.4831616

>>4831613
Budgetary constraints

>> No.4831618

>>4831579
I wish this was less blurry
for reasons

>> No.4831623

>>4831613
It was the first to assemble the spider platform to finally become mobile. And while inferior, the mastermind's prideful nature refuses to let it replace its trophy

>> No.4831624

>>4831502
Rankings are bullshit vomited together by ancient Quake dads who are only relevant in the depths of old IRC logs and Quaddicted uploads, to hell with 'em. Can't say I agree with some of the map rankings myself or the reasoning given for the scores they received.

>> No.4831631

quake champions is free on steam to keep it

>> No.4831634

>>4831631
ew.

>> No.4831639
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>>4831631

forgot pic as always

>> No.4831648

>>4831634
its fun
>>4831639
I want to FUCK Nyx

>> No.4831652
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>>4831648
it's held back hard by technical and balance issues
nyx is garbo
get you a real girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKJmlrhSr5U

>> No.4831654 [DELETED] 

>>4831634
>literally wonders why arena shooters aren't having the renaissance that they desparately wish they had

>> No.4831660
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>>4831631
I thought QC was going to have a model where
the game was F2P but Ranger was the only free guy and that you have to pay for the rest. Or did that change?

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>>4831634
Early Access is 4 EVER if you play this week, also you will get all champions for free even after it was relased

Quake Death Knight is next, and he's a ugly Mofo

>> No.4831667

>>4831425
Nice filename

>> No.4831668

>>4831663
>also you will get all champions for free even after it was relased
Only if you pay for it by buying the champions pack, stupid.

>>4831660
That is how it's set up, yes. Keys given away and the version you can get free on Steam right now is basically the F2P version- Ranger for free, Scalebearer by doing the tutorial, and everyone else is buyable with ingame creds or real ca$$$h moneys and IIRC there's a weekly rotation now for playable free champs. Don't know if the renting system still exists at all hidden in a menu somewhere.

>> No.4831669

>>4831663
Couldn't care less.

>> No.4831672

>>4831669
okay thanks for your input

>>4831663
okay thanks for trying
why the fuck would you expect /doom/ to care about any multiplayer arena FPS much less a modern one

>> No.4831673

>>4831631
Still lacks Crash

>> No.4831675

>>4831669
cared enough to post
liar

>>4831672
i would if it was actually good
but then again there's TF2

>> No.4831676

>>4831669
>loud monkey noises intensify

>> No.4831681

>>4831672
we care for every single id related fps game, since we discuss about nu doom or Doom 3, if you see shitposters at most like >>4831669 >>4831675 on this general, its mostly crossboarding /v/irgins

>> No.4831682

>>4831675
>cared enough to post
Yes, it's called posting an opinion in this discussion board.
>>4831676
Does it really bother you that much that someone dares to not be interested in a game that you have to resort to childish insults?
>>4831681
>how dare you not be hyped for this! you must be a shitposter!

What's wrong with you? Seriously?

>> No.4831683

>>4831681
i don't think anyone really cares about catacomb

>> No.4831685
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4831685

>>4831668
Oh, neat. How is the playerbase in Oceania

>> No.4831686 [DELETED] 

>>4831682
Why are you suddenly overdefensive?

>> No.4831690

>>4831685
I have no idea, I'm US East.

>> No.4831691

>>4831686
Overdefensive how? By pointing out how ridiculous other people sound just because I don't agree with them?

>> No.4831693

>>4831686
ignore the faggot

>> No.4831696

>>4831672
>would you expect /doom/ to care about any multiplayer arena FPS
Is that a trick question?

>> No.4831701 [DELETED] 

>>4831691
>says "ew" when the game is even mentioned like a redditor
>go "couldn't care less" whenever someone says the game is f2p
>doesn't sound faggy itself

>> No.4831705

>>4831701
>even mentioned like a redditor
Yeah because reddit invented that word and this site has never used it before, way to make yourself into a /v/ stereotype by blaming your overused boogeyman for no reason.
>>go "couldn't care less" whenever someone says the game is f2p
Is there a problem with daring to not like something?
>doesn't sound faggy itself
Great insult.

>> No.4831708

>>4831693
Seconding this guy at this point, ignore the faggot. He just wants to engage in internet sissy slapfights, and this is all gonna get flushed in a bit anyway.

>> No.4831709 [DELETED] 

>>4831705
>boogeyman

There are people on this website who think Filthy Frank is funny. It's not a boogeyman if it's a legitimate concern.

>> No.4831712

>>4831708
Yeah, I just realized who this fucker is, and judging from their continued behavior in /rhg/, the sooner they're gone, the better.

>> No.4831714

>>4831708
>He just wants to engage in internet sissy slapfight
Hey I'm not the one getting butthurt that someone's not interested in a game and calling that person a shitposter for daring to think that way. If anything this makes QC's fanbase look extremely sensitive and aggressive.
>>4831712
What the hell is /rhg/?

>> No.4831719

>>4831685
sup fellow oceania-kun

>> No.4831721
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>>4831719
Goodnight

>> No.4831726

>>4831721
i have study leave so i'm gonna stay up and play Mayhem 2016
sweet dreams

>> No.4831730

>>4831631
Been playing it, the game feels like it's empty/missing something, like character voice commands/taunts and good music. The way the characters just awkwardly and silently stand around when a round ends doesn't help.
The levels all feel samey due to low contrast and a desaturation filter over everything. The latter reminds me of Unreal Tournament 3, and that's not a good thing.
Also it takes wayyy too long to earn favor for a champion unlock.

>> No.4831750
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4831750

EGA Hexen/Heretic clone, anyone?

>> No.4831760

>>4831730
There are some tracks I like. Blood Covenant reminds me a lot of Quake 1's mix of industrial and occult ambient. But yeah, voice commands would be good. Especially since everything Ranger and Galena say is solid gold.

>> No.4831764
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People complain about custom maps that just use D_RUNNIN.

Well, I've found something even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAY1MXcpTTw

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>>4830563
That's interesting, thanks.

>> No.4831780

'x, but it's y' has made for a lotta good shit

>> No.4831801

I just remembered about that highway to hell wad some people were working on. Did it get finished or...?

>> No.4831807

>>4831801
the map set?
i want to know about that too

>> No.4831816

>>4831801
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57522

>> No.4831824

>>4831816

since we are here, what happened with that pack where doomguy traveled by car and had to load gas in every map
?, I remember a car model crashed in a second floor

>> No.4831828

>>4831052
>>4831103
> shoots Doomguy
> provokes infighting and gets shot
original

>> No.4831830

>>4831523
2OOM

>> No.4831832

>>4831523
maybe, i don't get it yet, i'll like it more if turns out to tie in with something cool in the game

>> No.4831834

>>4831830
DOOOOM (DOOM x2)

>> No.4831836

>>4831834
DDOooOMM

>> No.4831839
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>>4831613
Because the smaller ones dont have the frame for such a large minigun. Like the cyberdemon the mastermind just teleports its belted ammunition into its magazine from some huge stockpile somewhere. But the arachnotrons dont have that capability. Plasma tech is really logistical in terms of ammo so it just werks for the arachnotrons.

>>4831750
its not ega, what it reminds me of is one of those downsampled 256 color palettes like 64 colors or such

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I think I got arrows in a spot I'm happy with. Headshots force pain and do three times impact damage, but are a pain in the arse to land on moving targets, and can make you lose arrows in unreachable places from aiming too high.
Now I just need an ammo pickup of some sort.

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>>4831839
its a shity russian Heretic knockoff made in unity
level design is absolute shit, and there's only 6 or so levels. They promise 30 and they are adding them in 1 at a time via patches, but at the pace they are going it'll take them 3 or 4 years,

>> No.4831850

Got any of them chaingunner edits?

>> No.4831854

>>4831840
good shit!

>> No.4831859

>>4831840
saw somewhere a mod with arrows/spears pinning enemies to the walls, do you think you can do that? would be cool.

>> No.4831860

>>4831840
Name? And do you have a devblog? Looks awesome.

>> No.4831864

>>4831848

I played the alpha, is really bad...

>> No.4831867

>>4831848
The good Heretic Clone that is ZIGGURAT is free for 48 hours on GoG

>> No.4831871

>>4831764
How about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbTzjE9MFh4

>> No.4831879

>>4831864
Amid Evil is better, but for some reason they did not implement any kind of mipmapping or anisotropy so coupled with the gloss mapping the game looks like shimmering mess at all times and details further than 20m away are hard to distinguish due to them not having a fake contrast like Doom had. The engine supports the feature natively, but there is no way to engage it as the option was removed by the devs.
The only way to fix that is through AA, but that also blurs everything to high heaven, and the developers are dismissive of this problem because a shitty 'just use AA" solution exists.

>>4831867
Ziggurat is a random gen rogue-ultralite with very basic room design. Level design is what i find most interesting in the oldschool shooters, and Ziggurat not only underdelivers on that with its random generation, but further messes that up with really boring rooms.
Only proc-gen game like that with good rooms I played was Immortal Redneck, but that game has a whole lot problems on other fronts (gunplay being awfuly bland for one).

>> No.4831889

>>4831854
Thanks!

>>4831859
It's a cool idea but I have no idea how to do it at all, especially working with pre-existing monsters! Can you remember what the mod was?

>>4831860
Uh, just making sure, you're aware that the monsters and map are from Strange Aeons, right? My stuff is just the weapons/items.
Either way I've just been using "Unrok" as a placeholder name for the mod, but I can't really think of anything better. It's intended to mix the gameplay of Unreal and Turok games into the one Doom mod. I don't have a devblog, no.

>> No.4831895

>>4831889
Sadly, no. Just saw it in a video of an unreleased Doom mod. I think it was done with sticking projectiles and monster thrust plus special effect that locks monster in a pain state (like Ultimate Doomer's AA stun bow does, iirc. by making a special powerup then giving it to monster), then disables gravity on them once they hit the wall.

>> No.4831935

>>4831226
The SSG has a bayonet like alpha doom as well

>> No.4831942

>>4831935
> ssg bayonet
> close range weapon with an extra weapon for even closer range
the only way to get closer is to telefrag

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>>4831871
If all the custom maps that used D_RUNNIN used this, I would be totally ok with it.

>> No.4831986

>>4831801
>>4831824

Still workin' on it. Progress is torturously slow, but it's a-comin'.

>> No.4832004

Guys, help me out!

I've played (and loved) quake1 for the last time in 1996 and since my little brother is showing interest in the series, I'd like to replay it with him, even though we're miles away from each other

what's the best, easiest engine we could use to play it together?

>> No.4832012

>>4831984
whoa what do the green robe cultists do?

>> No.4832014

>>4829347
Colourful Hell beta build #2:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1058613#p1058613

>> No.4832015

>>4832004
QuakeSpasm is the standard go to engine these days. It's basically GLQuake but with years of maintenance.

http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/

You'll need pak0.pak and pak1.pak from the original Quake installation and (optionally) the CD soundtrack ripped to either MP3, OGG or FLAC.

>> No.4832018

>>4832004
check the op

>> No.4832026
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>>4831871
This is really neat

>> No.4832027

>>4832015
Someone needs to fuse tenebrae with QSPASM, so we can kill Darkplaces

>> No.4832034

>>4832027
So what does Darkplaces do, and why is it controversial? It's just a texture pack, right?

>> No.4832037
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>mfw if the next OP isn't Doom Eternal

>> No.4832047

>>4832034
DarkPlaces is another Quake source port that incorporates a lot of code from Doom 3. If you're into mid-2000's graphics effects, you can give it a try. But it breaks a lot of maps and its graphics are considered cringy nowadays. It's also mostly abandoned now.

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>>4832037
>mfw the return of pain elementals and archviles

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>>4832037
>mfw Doom Eternal looks epic as fuck

>> No.4832079

>>4832034
Darkplaces is a complete GPL rewrite of the engine. Essentially it is its own engine that is backwards compatible with Quake, that allows any modder familiar with quake modding to develop and potentially sell their own game (there are a few on ModDB some of them quite impressive).

It is deisliked for several things:
1) All of the code is rewritten, most often ommiting the intricacies of original Auake in favour of bug fixing and universality. That means it is not 100% like quake, and experienced players feel that immediately. It is a good engine but it is not a good >Quake< engine.
It adds a lot of tools and instruments of modding that allow to make a game completely different from Quake that would have not been possible on other Quake engines like QuakeSpasm or FitzQuake (IIRC there's even an RTS made on Darkplaces).

2) Ease of use prompted development of graphical modifications by the likes of "UltraHD 3D Models With 9001 unnecesarry special effects" (you can see in this thread) modifications that miss the point of Quake and its atmosphere entirely, yet scream at every corner that they are the one true way to experience Quake in the modern days. Coupled with 1) this attitude evokes the ire of aforementioned experienced players.

>>4832047
it's abandoned since 2014 I think. Also heard Darkplaces 2 is in dev, but considering the lack of updates on thats unlikely

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>>4832037
>mfw Quake Ranger as a selectable skin.

>> No.4832102

>>4831942
>>4831935
Hey, at least they found a more useful secondary fire for the SSG than that janked ass zoom.

>> No.4832105

>>4832102
Wasn't there one where you could shoot the barrels individually?
I'm also surprised they didn't try a "quad/more barrels" upgrade

>> No.4832106

>>4832079
>it's abandoned since 2014 I think

The code is still being maintained and there are daily auto builds, but no public/stable builds since 2014, yes.

http://git.xonotic.org/?p=xonotic/darkplaces.git;a=log

https://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/files/darkplacesenginewindows64onlyautobuild.zip

>> No.4832108

>>4832048
I hope Pain Elementals don't spawn those homing kamikaze lost souls from the first game, that would suck.

>> No.4832115

>>4832106
That's Xonotic's team branch of DS that is maintained by them for their own game, idk if they'd allow to use it for someone's own game development.
Main branch dev - LordHavoc - havent been heard from for a while.

>> No.4832116

>>4832037
They said that there will be twice as many demons in this game, so i'm interested to see some original designs.

>> No.4832121

I hope the missing Doom 2 monsters still get some new moves, because i'm curious about what the Arachnotron's claw hand can do
His design reminds me of that cut Doom 3 Spiderdemon

>> No.4832124

>>4832115
Nigga, are you blind? Look at who's submitting the commits.

>> No.4832132
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A game this based.
(map = monster bait)
I absolutely cant find the switches to make this area work, the visible switch doesnt work. So I guess im actually supposed to Rocket Jump up into the catwalk.
To Solve The Map, not for a secret and not for a quick bypass... but to actually progress.

>> No.4832142

>>4832012
They throw dynamite sticks. IIRC they were added in the Plasma Pak that added one more episode with some extra enemies.

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>>4832142
no what im saying is there is no way to progress from this room without resorting to rocket jumping (using explosives, be it the dynamite or the napalm launcher). The switch does not work.

I managed to get up there without losing much health and recovered it afterwards.

Pretty based if rocket jumping was only a new thing back at that time due to Quake, and they incorporated a section in a map where you absolutely had to do it to make progress.

re: dynamite, I thought I saw individual sticks of dynamite in the sprite sheets but I cant figure out how to split a bundle of dynamite so that it will do that, ive only been able to throw bundles so far.

>> No.4832180

>>4832121
They probably will, I mean they all got new shit right?

For now claw hand (I thought of it as a scorpion tail) is for pew pew but I'm curious, yeah

>> No.4832207 [DELETED] 

>>4831750
>$20 on steam
is it worth it?

>> No.4832217
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4832217

>mfw falling into account to the fact that it's been over a decade since we've last seen arachnotrons, elementals or viles in an official doom release
where the fuck does the time go.

>> No.4832219

>>4831848
Shame. Aesthetically, that looks great.

>> No.4832224
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4832224

Hey Term? Fuck off.

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4832226

>>4830179

>> No.4832227

>>4832224
dungeddit

>> No.4832236

>>4832224
:^)

>> No.4832238

Make Samuel Haydee a playable character in Demonsteele
Or in GMOTA

>> No.4832240

>>4832224
/r/ing samuel haydee art

done extra t h i c c

>> No.4832247

>>4832224
>bringing twitter screencaps to /vr/
Hey Anon? Fuck off.

>> No.4832252

>>4832224
>Hayden
>Haydee
>both androids
>both share the exact same design sans feminine features
it can't be a mere coincidence

>> No.4832253

>>4829416
>>4829424
>those MM7 vibes
Keep it up my man

>> No.4832257

>>4831871
fuckin classy

>> No.4832268

>>4832224
they hated him because he told the truth

>> No.4832272

>>4831984
damn, nothing gets close to looking as good as Blood's character sprites. They feel like 3D models

>> No.4832278

>>4832012
biggest pain in the ass. They're like fresh cultists who have no weapon training. They allegedly have the most sanity (due to being fresh) so they employ ambush tactics and throw dynamite at you. They are also the healthiest of cultists, again because they are fresh and not as degraded as the others

>> No.4832285

>>4832224
...what is haydee?

>> No.4832301

>those popups in metadoom that happen when you find all secrets, items, or kill all monsters in the level

Why are they so satisfying lads? I need more. More of them and more often. Are there any other mods that have arcade style popups like that that'll suck my dick and tell me I'm awesome for everything I do?

>> No.4832313

>>4832285
google it

>> No.4832321

>>4832301
I know D4T and even QC:DE reward you with stuff for getting all secrets and kills
If you pick Parias in Samsara, the secret pop ups come in the form of "you've found the third of the amount of secrets in this map" or something and it ends with "you've completed the sequence of secrets"

>> No.4832348

movie memes aside has anyone made a wad where the face is a woman?

>> No.4832351

>>4829347

>Recent interest in a possible /vr/ mapping project, making a neighborhood of mappers' houses
>-https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4814363/#4820547

Someone wanna make this?, I can lot a wad, everybody can choose a lot and model there

things I need to know beforehand:

how many lots
size of the lots
organic or grid pattern

>> No.4832363

>>4831407
>tfw metadoom is now "on hold" because of doom eternal
i wonder if kinsie is gonna get back at null or jpf

>> No.4832371

>>4832348
I'm sure there's plenty

>> No.4832385

>>4832321
I'm trying out D4T and I think I like it more than D4D already. It's pretty fun, I didn't even know it existed until you mentioned it. Thanks, you're a good lad.

>> No.4832413

>>4832385
I hope D4T updates to add DE stuff or has a sequel mod of sorts

>> No.4832424

>>4832413
I feel like a seperate mod might be better, depending on how different it can be from the main game
Might be wrong, though

>> No.4832427

>>4829346
I have never seen the full pic of the subway green text story before. I know its edited but still.

>> No.4832453
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4832453

Gimme BLOOD maps you bunch of roody poo bethesda sycophants

>> No.4832459

>>4832453
how does one go about making blood maps?

>> No.4832462

>>4832459
same as one makes duke nukem 3d maps
gimme EXISTING blood maps

>> No.4832471

>try out complex doom
>4 different shotguns all on the same weapon slot

Man, come on with this shit. What's even the point of the double barrel when there's the quad barrel? Just remove the double when the quad is picked up. Same with the normal shotgun to automatic shotgun.

>> No.4832473

>>4832453
can't, too busy being hype.


scum of the earth, death wish

>> No.4832475

>>4832471
double barrel has an alt fire that lets you fire one at a time, saving ammo if you're facing weak enemies, also drop weapons you don't want.

>> No.4832479

>>4832471
>plays complex doom
>complains that it's complex

>> No.4832502

>>4832473
death wish is full of impressive looking maps with shit gaemplay

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>>4832253
Well I am trying, glad that someone recognizes that.

>> No.4832509

why is so fucking hard to find quakespasm-spike 0.93.1?, I expended like 5 minutes to find it, is not in google results

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>> No.4832535

>>4832505
izzat hexensouls

>> No.4832567

ss13 doomposter is dead, right?

>> No.4832578

>>4832567
poster is likely alive
project is likely ded

>> No.4832601

>>4832578
That's gay. I was rooting for the guy.

>> No.4832624 [DELETED] 

I know not retro, but did you guys see the Serious Sam website?

http://www.serioussam.com/


it's like they're going for a nuts.wad quantity of monsters, but that sounds really unlikely for a good looking game

no, i will not put a chaingunner in the image

>> No.4832639 [DELETED] 

>>4832624
>I know not retro
That doesn't apply here since ages ago, we talk about games whether they're retro or not, people come here for the community.

>> No.4832646

>>4832639
>That doesn't apply here since ages ago
What? No.

>> No.4832651

>>4832646
Yes? Hence us casually talking about the new Doom games, Serious Sam 4, Quake Champions, Shadow Warrior reboot 1 and 2 and Duke Nukem Forever for example.

>> No.4832657

>>4832651
all of those are related to retro franchises, serious sam and rage are not

/doom/ is not unique or special in this regard

>> No.4832661

>>4832037
But it's not retro

>> No.4832667

>>4832657
>all of those are related to retro franchises
But still not retro themselves, hence why the poster should have no issue talking about Serious Sam 4, which fits your category.

Also, we also talk about games that are separate IPs like Dusk, Painkiller and Ion Maiden.

>> No.4832669

>>4832657
>serious sam and rage
We talk about those two too though. Remember the half-thread-long argument about whether or not SS was linear a few weeks ago?

>> No.4832672

stop with the autismod

>> No.4832673 [DELETED] 

looks like SS4 is gonna be one of them open world wanderarounders

>> No.4832679

>>4832669
yes, in passing as a tangent to a related subject

just as how you can talk about other m's handling of samus in a metroid thread

/doom/ is not unique or special in this regard

>> No.4832681

>>4832667
I have never seen discussion of Dusk and Painkiller not get deleted.

>> No.4832693

>>4832639
Congrats on making a not-so-bad off-topic post even worse. at least talk about the dang enemy count the website is trying to claim SS4 will have

>>4832673
maybe bigger arenas, but no way it'll be open world.

>> No.4832796

>>4832132
There's a way, I can't remember which one tho

>> No.4832797

>>4832108
then what the hell will they do then?

>> No.4832824

The cleric for Hexen Legend Farewell Edition is finally out! Feels pretty good to play him. The mace and dagger isn't as weak as you'd think. Kills an ettin in one three hit combo. I like the cleric more than Corvus in it. Who else is playing this shit?

>> No.4832826

>>4832797
Spawn arch-viles

>> No.4832834
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4832834

>>4832037
That's a pretty fun megawad to be honest.

>> No.4832837
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>>4830997
Saved this forever

>> No.4832842
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>>4832824
>Legend:Farewell Edition is a heavily modified upgrade-remake of Hexen in a classic style, but with a darker and a much more aggressive atmosphere. Featuring almost twice the length of the game, revised and extended levels, more decorations, precision-refined gothic design,

u cant make dis shit up

>> No.4832859

>>4832842
Is it good or bad?

>> No.4832860

>>4832471
Come on, they're all different
There is the usual shotgun
The auto-shotty, which quickly shoots like 8 times in a row before reloading
The usual SSG (with a single barrel alt-fire)
And Quad-Shotgun
Also Legendary adds Hexa-Shotgun and Legendary SSG.

> What's even the point of the double barrel when there's the quad barrel?
Because you can't FIND the Quad one, duh. It can only be dropped from a Quad-Zombie. Same with Hexa.

>> No.4832882

>>4832859
It's pretty good. All of the levels have been redone and also the characters and weapons. It's challenging though. Items are more common and you'll want to use them. Porkalators, banishment devices, discs of repulsion to reflect projectiles. If you play it I recommend binding discs of repulsion to right click so you can react quickly with them.

>> No.4832889
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>>4832834
>Eternal Doom
>fun

>> No.4832893
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4832893

>>4832889
I..I mean it was...ok I guess.

>> No.4832902

>>4832882
Thanks, I'll check it out

>> No.4832906

>>4832902
Grab the version of Doomsday Engine they have on the site for the mod, newer versions of it didn't work for me.

>> No.4832925

>>4832842
I wish when they made Hexen that they never gave the slaughtaurs a shield. Those enemies are so obnoxious. I'd dump a porkolator into that crowd.

>> No.4832943

>>4832925
They should have at least made a firing animation rather than reusing the guard animation.

>> No.4832951
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>>4832842
>>4832925
>slaughterwad of slaughtaurs

>> No.4832954
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4832954

>yfw they remove glory kills but add ironsights

>> No.4832958

>>4832954
Isn't that's what altfires do already?

>> No.4832960

>>4830529
What the fuck is this mannn

>> No.4832963

>>4832951
That group would be pretty manageable from a doorway or corner but the guy playing in the image charged right into them in the open like a retard.

>> No.4832972

>>4832958
Only two, technically, and only on one of two upgrades. Scope for HAR and precision shot for Gauss cannon, SSG zooms a little, but it's s stretch to call it ADS.

>> No.4832980

>>4832954
I don't mind ADS on some guns.

While I like the glorykills in Doom 4, and I really like the chainsaw too, if they removed the glorykill function fromt he saw and then just made it like in Doom 3, where it's just a really powerful point blank DPS beast, I would settle for that, because I love Doom 3s saw.

>> No.4832987

>>4832954
Fuck that
I like glory kills desu

>> No.4833001
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>>4832954
I HIGHLY doubt they'd remove glory kills of all things. That was one of the main selling points of d44m, so I can't imagine they'd take it out in Eternal. It'd be like taking out Crash' Bandicoot's spin ability from any game after 1.


plus i hope they somehow add strafejumping in eternal, in the early d44m beta you could activate it with a console code but it doesnt seem to work in the retail release which grinds my gears to be quite frankly honest

>> No.4833015
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>>4832954
How about this
Instead of keeping you still, you can now move during glory kills. Moving during a kill changes the animation. Also, instead of simply getting a demon's health low, you have to hit a critical spot to make them stagger. Aiming at different parts of the body changes kill animations and results as it does in D2016, but this time, adding certain button combinations provides added effects. For example, you no longer just rip an unwilling's arm off, but you can throw it at where the crosshair is aimed. If landed right, it can stagger another (lesser) enemy. Different enemies now drop differing amounts of health and/or armor and/or ammo depending on their difficulty. No longer will both barons and imps drop 12 hp, but imps will drop 3 and barons will drop 10. Chaining glory kills adds exponentially to how much health/supplies can be dropped.

>> No.4833018

>>4833015
Too complicated I think. I barely aimed for the head in the new one

>> No.4833020

>>4833015
Cleave and smite! Cleave and Smite your evil! You are huge, that means you have huge evil! CLEAVE AND SMITE!

>> No.4833025
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4833025

>>4833020
Yes

>> No.4833026

>>4833001
I could see them doing a lighter version of >>4833015 add a touch of depth to it but not to this degree, it could risk bogling things down, like MGS3's redonkylus CQC mechanic depth, it took my ages to learn the amount of pressure on a button was what changed between threatening and killing a grabbed dude.

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>>4832954
I want to say "but hey they're balanced in nightmare" but I think that's just because you die in 1-2 hits on nightmare anyway.

Maybe my opinion ain't the best because I kept getting bored with it. It was pretty, and the fights were fun but I didn't enjoy anything in-between them.

>> No.4833030
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4833030

found a doomguy collectable in the teaser.

>> No.4833031

>>4833025
We better get to use that thing, or its counterpart

>> No.4833034

>>4833030
Neat
>>4833031
>or its counterpart
Duuude, what if the angel man makes doomguy a new armor plus sword

>> No.4833047

>>4833030
what's that weird gun to the left of it?

>> No.4833048
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4833048

have some fresh fucking garbage
https://www.dropbox.com/s/970i73s25yknjpm/LOTX.wad?dl=0

nothing of value
zero (0) finished maps
textures not included with the wad
and many more.
literally only exists for others to cannibalize like the rest of my garbage

>> No.4833051

>>4833028
The Winamp skin helmet gets me every time.

>> No.4833054
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4833054

>>4833048
You weren't joking.

Oh well, into the trashbin.

>> No.4833058

>>4833054
its mostly doom 64 textures and some cc4-tex textures
https://realm667.com/index.php/en/component/docman/?task=doc_download&gid=885&Itemid=

>> No.4833061

>>4831839
>Like the cyberdemon the mastermind just teleports
No, bad headcanon!

>> No.4833068

>>4832226
I see nothing wrong here.

>> No.4833071

>>4832363
>jpf
I hope so. That shit has tons of potential but the balance is all messed up.

>> No.4833073

>>4833047
looks like a shotgun
two of them appear within the same shot

>> No.4833085

>>4833073
but it's all green and weird and techy... kind of seeing tron-like circuitry 'veins' on it.
Plasma Shotgun?

>> No.4833089
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4833089

>>4833085
>green
?

>> No.4833092

Watching the reveal again. Man I just love Hugo Martin

>> No.4833101

http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_oVwrpfo_QA&start1=10&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1XPKOVbSNew&start2=0&authorName=mute+the+trailer+you+dumb+shit

you're welcome

>> No.4833103

>>4833101
I liked it

>> No.4833104
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>>4833089

>> No.4833108

>>4832224
Has anyone made a Samuel Hayden/Sam Hyde joke yet

>> No.4833109
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4833109

>>4832954
mfw they add a GO FUCK YOURSELF taunt

>> No.4833113

>>4833103
i now realize the timing is slightly off.
damn

>> No.4833118

>>4833113
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_oVwrpfo_QA&start1=15&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1XPKOVbSNew&start2=4&authorName=mute+the+trailer+and+enable+the+music
should have the foot in time with music now

>> No.4833127

http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_oVwrpfo_QA&start1=0&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DI-LOHTCsUns&start2=&authorName=mute+the+trailer+and+enable+the+music

probably better

>> No.4833129

You think there will be any living humans this time? Or is the species already extinct?

>> No.4833131

>>4832348
new brutal doom will allow you to play as a chick

>> No.4833132

>>4833131
Who still looks like regular Doomguy during fatalities.

>> No.4833135

>>4833131
bazinga

>> No.4833136

>>4833129
If it tries to be somewhat close to the original Doom 2 story, we might end up saving a single evacuation ship in the distance at some point, but never see any living humans in person.

>> No.4833138

>>4832348
the space pirate?
does metroid dreadnaught have a mugshot face?
JPF and HD check for the player's gender option

lady in DRLA when

>> No.4833139

>>4833136
Knowing the human race is alive at all would be enough for me, some one to actually save.

Still would be somthing of a bottleneck for us

>> No.4833140

Nu-Doom 3 name:
The
Final
Ultimate Eternal

Doom

>> No.4833169 [SPOILER] 
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>>4830997
>>4832837

>> No.4833184
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4833184

>>4831839
>Plasma tech is really logistical in terms of ammo
If you just handwave it as magical super batteries that can store thousands of gigawatts to safely tap from to your heart's content, also which don't explode and release all this energy or anything, and don't weigh 12000lbs a unit, yeah.

>>4833061
I mean, teleporting in ammo seems like it'd kind of explain where it comes from. Like, there's no magazine or belt feed on the Cybie's gun, and it looks about big enough that it'd fit one of the rockets in it at a time.

Meanwhile, Spidey has a big machinegun, but seemingly no kind of ammo supply for it either. I mean the action and the feeding mechanism could probably be concealed inside the platform, but you gotta fit an engine in there too, for the mechanical legs, as well as at least some sort of huge batteries for that (which seems like it could be what explodes when he dies, actually).
Further, how is he attached to the platform? Is the upper side of the thing just flat and smooth, like they just lift him up and plop him down on top of it, and hope he doesn't slide off if he tries to climb stairs? Does he just desperately grab onto the sides with his little arms if shit starts tilting?

Like there's PROBABLY some setup under there which attaches him to the platform, and you could probably make something like that which is kind of flat and not too bulky, like it could fit in this space.
If he had a teleport receiver in there, and either had a set of servos or used telekinesis, he could just call in a new belt of ammunition and then load that into his gun.

It'd kind of solve some things, honestly, even if it's a little goofy.

>> No.4833201

>>4833184
>Further, how is he attached to the platform? Is the upper side of the thing just flat and smooth, like they just lift him up and plop him down on top of it, and hope he doesn't slide off if he tries to climb stairs? Does he just desperately grab onto the sides with his little arms if shit starts tilting?
He's bio-mechanically fused to it, like the cyber and his launcher and shit

>> No.4833230

>>4833092
Since Doomguy and some demons are getting closer to their classic counterparts, i wonder what does this mean for hell itself
>FIREBLU in HD

>> No.4833242

>>4833201
>He's bio-mechanically fused to it, like the cyber and his launcher and shit
Personally I don't like that as much, I prefer the idea that they have cybernetics grafted to their bodies to make them cyborgs.

>> No.4833243

>>4833230
> FIREBLU dimension
> all fireballs thrown your way are either, red, blue, or FIREBLU

>>4833242
isn't that the same shit tho?

>> No.4833245

>>4833140
DUDE
Le
Epic
GLORYKILLS
MEME

>> No.4833249

>>4833245
still one of my biggest d5 gripes.
"guise look we're broople doog"

>> No.4833259

>>4833230
Horrifying
>>4833249
I like them, they complement the "dance", they don't drag and unlike broodl they aren't edgy

>> No.4833262
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>>4829346
>>4829347

>> No.4833268
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4833268

>>4833140
Doom 3: "I can sota see something this time" Edition.

>> No.4833269

>>4833243
>>4833230
I unironically want this.

>> No.4833270
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>>4833268

>> No.4833273

>>4833243
If it's fused together, like flesh somehow seamlessly transitions into metal, like it just fades together, that's kind of different than just attaching and hooking up cybernetics.

>> No.4833275

>>4831030
Where is that essay? I need to be convinced.

>> No.4833278
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>>4833262
I'm not reading anything about illegal Cacodemon swording.

>> No.4833280

>>4831030
>>4833275
I want it too
>>4833278
Haven't been to the thread for years. What happened to GMOTA?

>> No.4833281
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>>4833280
I updated it. Doomslayer is a second playable character.

>> No.4833285

>>4833281
Oh hey, dope. SHOTA GUY

>> No.4833286
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4833286

>>4833285
Look, he's just short.

>> No.4833308
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4833308

>>4833278
SOMEBODY FUCKING STOP THIS MONSTER

>> No.4833310

>>4833308
>filename
>not gain elemental

>> No.4833313

>>4833308
I don't know if this becomes sadder or inspirational if you put the D44M cacodemon there

>> No.4833317

>>4833313
Definitely sadder

>> No.4833318

>>4833201
>>4833242
>>4833273
The original Spiderdemon model actually has the cannon sprouting out from the fleshy bits.

>> No.4833320

>>4833313
Depends on whether the dyel atrophied arms can get better

>> No.4833330

>>4833245
who memes about glory kills?

>> No.4833339

>>4833320
They're atrophied so obviously no.
And he's already depressed

>> No.4833341
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4833341

>>4833249
>>4833245
But the Glorykills in Doom 4 are brief and look good, unlike Brutal's dragged out bullshit.

>> No.4833349

>>4833249
Reminder that id had glory kills planned before brool tood implemented fatalities.

>> No.4833356

>>4833349
That's Bethesda propaganda, Marky had an genius idea first!

>> No.4833357

>>4833341
Also the demons act like demons and not little bitches during them

>> No.4833361

>>4831613
Mastermind was released before Arachnotrons, duh.

>> No.4833370

https://my.mixtape.moe/owbduu.webm

fucking shaders, man

Dunno why but I can't upload webms to 4chan, I keep getting connection error round 50%. Other sites are fine.

>> No.4833374

>>4830148
>ive Never Played it
Awesome, establishing right out the gate that you're talking out your ass.
>In terms of a game being like porn when it comes to storyline this is tantamount to the plot in an interracial porn clip.
You don't play Doom for an engrossing plot you fucktard, DOOM's story was intentionally threadbare so as to not become obstructive to the gameplay experience.
>As a player of games I want Survival Horror
Neat, what you want isn't what Doom is. Doom is an action game, there may be some horror elements (it is Hell after all) but first and foremost it is a fast-paced shoot-em-up.

>> No.4833378

>>4833108
someone on /v/ drawthreads drew hayden as hyde once

>> No.4833379

>>4833374
anon that post is a day old
if you're in disagreement with his points then so be it, personally I don't share his opinion either but there's no reason to be upset

>> No.4833383

>>4833379
I've been away for a few day, didn't know. Also this board in general is slow, I don't see the harm.

>> No.4833386

https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1006424338679992320
kinsie now decided that the cyborg player mugshot will be based off this thing from doom vfr
with the female one being that girl from doom 2 rpg

>> No.4833390
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4833390

I want to play doom 1, but I can't into first person. Is there a doom third person over the shoulder mod out there?

>> No.4833415

>>4832348
One of the wads from the first Joel Doom Contest had a woman as a playable char

>> No.4833430

>>4832902
How are you liking it? I think I'm one of the only ones here whose played it. I think it's great. It feels like what Hexen should have been all along.

>> No.4833448

>>4833390
There is the chasecam in (G)ZDoom/Zandronum, but it's not the greatest for what you want to do.

Some mods implement a 'fake' third-person perspective where the character is in place of the weapon sprites, there's one RE4-style mod around which I think does that.

>> No.4833470

>>4833448
>'fake' third-person
That would do. I can play third person games. In first person, my brain thinks my real body is moving, which makes me dizzy.

>> No.4833475

>>4833470
Speaking of dizziness, I wonder how Doom 1/2 is in VR when doing SR50 strats.

>> No.4833492

>>4833475
I know there is some sort of VR mod in GZDoom now.
How does it work and how does it look? I can't find the demonstration annywhere - only G3Doom which is based on 1.8.10 and is discontinued like 2 years ago.

Also what avout Quake 1 in VR? Does Quakespasm or darkplaces allow that?

>> No.4833501

>>4833448
>RE4-style
I thought I still get to play as doom guy. Playing as Leon ruins it for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPGNON8T83U

>> No.4833512

>>4833501
The only other mods I know of that are in third-person as well was some kind of melee mod and Black Warrior. I do have to wonder if ZScript is able to edit the chasecam though, maybe a universal third-person mod is possible but I'd imagine more Doomguy sprites would have to be made for it to look good in motion.

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Sorry for off topic but
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.4833528

>Those mermen tubes in Strange Aeons never actually lead to anything
Lame.

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>>4833525
Oh no my not retro cosmetics

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>>4833525

>> No.4833550
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What's your average /vr/oom? I'm slow as balls.

https://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

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>>4833550

>> No.4833568
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>>4833550
Thats all i got

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4833576

>You scored 210.0. You're currently in the top 93 percentile for this test!

>> No.4833621

I type it as DOOM instead of Doom
am I retarded

>> No.4833623

>>4833621
Maybe if you were typing it as DooM

>> No.4833624

>>4833621
no

>> No.4833650

>>4833623
dOOm

>> No.4833657

New thread.

>>4833654
>>4833654
>>4833654

>> No.4833701

>>4833621
>not DooM

>> No.4833732

>>4833386
clever

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>>4833025
Am I the only one who thought this energy sword thing looks goofy as all fuck? And not in a good way.

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>>4829346
OP's image really should've had the devil swearing on a copy of the DOOM Bible.

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>>4831490
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