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4818521 No.4818521 [Reply] [Original]

There are peope RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW
Thant doesnt like pic related.
I know, scary, huh?

>> No.4818525

Game is pretty complex plus feeling unfinished. It's easy to see why it rubs a fair amount of people the wrong way.

>> No.4818538

Some people here don't like RPGs. Well, that may not last long, but still.

>> No.4818539
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4818539

>>4818521
I cannot like it if I dont know what the fuck is that shit

>> No.4818541

>>4818539
Leave.

>> No.4818553

>>4818521
I like it, but I never beat it. Cuz I suck. Couldn't get past some parts, they were too difficult for me. At least I still got the OST.

>> No.4818560

>>4818521
>100 maxHP
>waiting for command

I remember seeing this same pic in a gaming magazine when I was a kid and it puzzled me back then because you start out with 250 HP and there is no "waiting for command"

>> No.4818568

>>4818560
It wasn't uncommon for gaming magazines to showcase beta pre-production screenshots.

>> No.4818569

I need to get gud, I am stuck at 60% fighting some dragon and I don't have weapons that are good against dragons. I'm gonna have to start over.

Needs a remake with upgraded graphics and full voices, would be almost perfect then.

>> No.4818574

>>4818569
>I am stuck at 60%
>I'm gonna have to start over.
dude, use raging ache if you're desperate
what dragon are you fighting?

>> No.4818575

>>4818521
>turn-based gameplay
Into the fucking trash it goes.

>> No.4818583

>>4818575
lol ur dum

>> No.4818595

>>4818541
NOOOOOO

>> No.4818596

>>4818575
So you haven't played it. Maybe you should be what's going into the trash.

>> No.4818606

>>4818569
>Needs a remake with upgraded graphics and full voices, would be almost perfect then.
So /v/iggers can meme about how it's a Dark Souls ripoff? No thanks.

>> No.4818607

>>4818596
Just because it's not menu-driven doesn't mean that you still don't take turns with having to wait while your RISK lowers and doing QTE turns during your attack.

>> No.4818610

>>4818521
Shittiest combat of any game I've ever played. Should've made it a Souls-like instead.

>> No.4818613

>>4818606
If it had voices I'd already have called it the metal gear solid of rpgs.

>> No.4818618

>>4818521
I'm one of them. It's not my fault the game is shit.

>> No.4818619

>>4818610
>Shittiest combat of any game I've ever played. Should've made it worse instead.

>> No.4818623

>>4818521
all these fucking trolls in this thread, someone take over this site and start purging these shites.

>> No.4818624

>>4818574
Check this thread tomorrow for a reply from me, and I appreciate the help.

>> No.4818628

>>4818521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p16aVlzBOro

*thread music*

>> No.4818631

>>4818607
>oh shit better google how to win back some face uhh uhh
Yeah, you called it turn-based, it isn't, you suck, move on with your life.

>> No.4818634

>>4818521
Picture could be smaller

>> No.4818635

>>4818623
>People who don't like what I like MUST be trolling.

>> No.4818641

>>4818635
>People who don't like what I like MUST be trolling
no you stupid fuck, you know perfectly its not that.

>> No.4818643

>>4818631
I just explained how it is, go fuck yourself, cunt.

>> No.4818645
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4818645

>>4818521
Plot: Makes no sense until the end, at which point it deliberately makes even less sense.
Localization: Literally makes up text to be edgy and fancy like FFT, making up lines of text in the process. The kind of shit that would have people raging in /v/ threads today. Thank god the english language has centuries of top notch literature so we don't have to read some uneducated localizers trying to make some chink's writing read like shakespeare.
Art: Gorgeous, some of the best on PS1. Too bad you spend the vast majority of the game getting lost in the same ugly basement.
Gameplay: Literally box pushing simulator 2000. That's like a third of the gameplay. The rest is navigating through horrible menus. Most people will get too bored to get past that during their first playthrough. The second attempt is usually thwarted by realizing you'll hit enemies for 1 damage unless you figure out the autistic customization system, or changing weapons every battle to level up their attributes correctly, or, having mastered the attribute system, finding out many enemies have random arbitrary resistances that can only be found through trial and error. Oh, you like that you can damage enemy parts individually? And you damaged an enemy's dominant hand to 0 hp? Well, fuck you, it does nothing. That was for marketing only, stupid gaijin.
Overall: cinematic/10

>> No.4818649

>>4818607
This. Secret of Mana is also a turn-based game disguised as an action game, because you have to wait for a bar to fill just to do anything.

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4818781

>>4818575
go mash ur buttons babby

>> No.4818817

The biggest problem with this game is that it's just not fun. I've always really wanted to enjoy it and still own a copy, but I've never been able to have much fun with it.

They say this was one of my most purchased PS1 games, but you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who knows about Vagrant Story who isn't or wasn't a Square fan.

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>>4818618
you're the turd ur mom shat

>> No.4818829

>>4818781
>implying turn-based gameplay isn't even more button-mashy than real-time gameplay
Spam A while Attack is selected to win!

>> No.4818831

This board has a huge hard-on for Squaresoft, holy shit

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4818834

>>4818645
How about actually playing it first before spreading ur broken asshole like the faggot machine u are?
80% of your post is blatant lies.
If game is too complex for your piece of shit inferior IQ dont blame it, its YOUR fault.
Now go back and get me a burrito CARLOS.

>> No.4818835

>>4818831
Should just rename it to /jrpg/ desu.

>> No.4818839 [DELETED] 

>>4818829
>mommy dis to hard it scahri ;( i want flashy colors mommy!
go back to /v/ underage basedfag

>> No.4818852

It's a bit of a tedious slog with a lot of very interesting ideas. Great gear customization and indepth weakness system are awesome. Though I honestly can't be bothered dealing with the menus anymore. This can be alleviated by running around at low HP and comboing everything to death but that doesn't make for a terribly exciting combat system.

>> No.4818865

>>4818834
Nice projecting, i live in the highest IQ area of Europe, baby. Sorry your favorite game objectively sucks. Chumps like you who bought the marketing made Square's bank even when they released their experimental games that no one managed to sit through long enough to actually finish and see how garbage they were.

>> No.4818870

>>4818539
Vagrant Story dude

>> No.4818883

>>4818839
>to hard
Pretty much every JRPG is casual as fuck.

>flashy colors
You mean like what most JRPGs have?

If any genre should be used for babysitting autistic retards, it's those.

>> No.4818884

what the fuck is wrong with this thread, what holes did you harlequin babies crawl out of? /vg/? /v/?
Actually I don't care, just go back, holy shit 5th gen was a mistake

>> No.4818901

>>4818852
>This can be alleviated by
Upgrading the starting sword and never bothering to fuck around in menus outside of workshops. Wow, see I just knocked like 5 hours of time off your playstyle right there.

>> No.4818903

>>4818901
Literally what I did, a lot of enemy types are resistent to its damage so you have to compensate by running around at low health for extra damage during combos which is exactly what I did for the majority of the game and found it pretty uninteresting that way

>> No.4818905 [DELETED] 

>>4818619
Woah so now shitting on Souls is the hot maymay. Just epic my friend :^)

>> No.4818906

>>4818865
>live in the highest IQ area of Europe,
And that immediately means you're smart, too, because we all know that smart people never ever spawn kids with developmental issues, yes this is known.
>Chumps like you who bought the marketing
What marketing? Post three ads.
>no one managed to sit through long enough to actually finish and see how garbage they were.
>nice projecting
The irony.

>> No.4818908 [DELETED] 

>>4818883
xD

>> No.4818909

>>4818903
Or you could play properly and use buffs/debuffs.

>> No.4818912

>>4818884
5th gen and RPGs almost single handedly shit up the board for everyone else
When both elements meet together, this is the usual result

>> No.4818915

>>4818817
>They say this was one of my most purchased PS1 games
Where, in Japan? Like you said, hardly anyone remembers it today.

>> No.4818916

>>4818909
Why did you even bother replying if you didn't read my original post? Playing properly requires crawling through menus for gear switching, magic and items to lower risk and such which is a tedious playstyle. You can either have a nice amount of strategy and variety but deal with the game's terribly made time wasting menus or you could go for a mostly mindless combo timing playstyle which gets boring

>> No.4818923

>>4818916
>gear switching, magic and items to lower risk
No don't do this. You're not reading what I'm saying. One or two buffs and you're good to go. Scan if you can't figure out weaknesses, break arts on the off chance your damage type is resisted highly. That's it. No need for risk boosting unnecessarily, no gear switching, no items for lowering risk, none of that shit.
One sword, two buffs. Easy peasy. I beat the game annually doing exactly this. Why you idiots insist on making things harder for yourselves and getting your pringles tingled and blaming the game, I will never understand.

>> No.4818926

>>4818915
It's in the greatest hits collection and in the small amount of ps1 games available on PSN. Isn't that proof enough?

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4818929

>>4818926
forget it, he discharges his anal sexual frustrations talking trash in 4chan, lets hope he finally dies in peace.
Or brutally gangraped ;)

>> No.4818936

What is it?

>> No.4818937

>there are people who don't like a game where two thirds of the gameplay is pushing boxes and wading through menus.

Shocker.

Yes, it's one of the most graphically impressive games on the system, yes, the character models are best you will see in any PS1 game, but the actual fun part of the game is walled behind hours and hours of tedious shit.

The armory is interesting, but god, they should've made that menu move as faster with the amount of time you'll spend in it.

Box puzzles are fine but... this many of them? Really?

If I wanted to play fucking sokoban I'd go play fucking sokoban.

>> No.4818941

>>4818937
My problem with the game was how esoteric the mechanics were. You pretty much needed a guide to begin to figure out just what the hell you were doing. That's not a bad thing, per say, just wish the mechanics were more spelled out through gameplay.

I didn't get to beat it until years later when I could access gamefaqs, and by then my interest in the story had waned.

>> No.4818942 [DELETED] 

>>4818937
A shame you were too poor, or didnt even learned to speak yet to play the game back in the day :/
No one cares about your opinion, forget about anyone reading all you wrote bruh, go back to /v/

>> No.4818943

>>4818610
Play Planescape: Torment. You don't know what shitty combat is.

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>>4818926
It had a lot of press at the time, but it's no different than FFXIII today in that regard. People were upset it didn't have voice acting for example, because it was marketed as looking just like Metal Gear Solid, but that game had voices. It ended up being a disappointment for the gameplay too and people quickly stopped talking about it, but the big fuss about the art and writing is what remains. Some people are obsessed with claiming it was always this big masterpiece everyone played like mainline FFs, while it only got popular in small pockets of hipsters here and there, and remains a deeply flawed game. I bet in 15 years people will claim FFXV was a big success too, with lots of data to claim it sold lots and is in whatever "greatest hits" and "history of Square Enix" collections, even though everyone stopped giving a shit after it released and it simply wasn't very fun to begin with.

>> No.4818946 [DELETED] 

>>4818645
I bet you eat out of dumpster.

>> No.4818950

>>4818865
Are you frustrated?
https://www.gamerankings.com/ps/914326-vagrant-story/index.html

>> No.4818953

mods this thread requires your attention, half the posts are low effort shitposts that should be deleted

>> No.4818954

>>4818525
>unfinished
That about sums up Vagrant Story.

>> No.4818956

>>4818942
>>4818929
Let's see, whose opinion am i going to pay attention to in this thread? People criticizing aspects of the game or one very angry and ill-mannered autist wishing for people to die and worse?

>> No.4818957

>>4818945
Any sources to back your claims?

>> No.4818960

>>4818957
Many of the indepth reviews from the time are still online.

>> No.4818963
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4818963

>>4818956
>seething this hard
Calm down kid, its just a game

>> No.4818965

>>4818960
Like these spouting rave reviews?
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/vagrant-story

>> No.4818967 [DELETED] 

>>4818963
You'r'e the one seething, and it's quite entertaining. How many boxes did you push today?

>> No.4818969

ITT: one turbo autist spamming "no u" against posters with constructive criticism of a mediocre game.

>> No.4818970

>>4818965
>lowest score is an 80 from Spank
Spank?

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>>4818967
>he talks about games he never played because he was too poor to play them back in the day.
Game was awesome when you were a kid, sorry u had such a sad childhood tyrone :(

>> No.4818973 [DELETED] 

>>4818970
Spank ur penis to Merlose, haha.

>> No.4818974

>>4818957
Fuck you. There's your source.

>> No.4818975

>>4818953
That's why the report function exists. God how I wish more people would use it. This place would clean up so fast.

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4818978

Of course 90% of the old games are unplayabe now that most of you are like 45, back in the day it was fucking amazing, deal with it, tyrones and pedros!
;)

>> No.4818981

>>4818965
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/final-fantasy-xiii

>Look at those critics rave-reviewing the game! All the links are dead! It must be a masterpiece!
Or were you talking about those 39 reviews you left in the user section? Luckily there was no metacritic back in the day, and actual players knew what the turd was about.

>> No.4818983

RIP /vr/

>> No.4818989 [DELETED] 

>>4818972
>le poorfag strawman meme
You realize it was easy as fuck to pirate games for the PSX, right? Even poorfags could enjoy the games on that system.

>> No.4818990 [DELETED] 

>>4818983
report all the shitposts, mods are slow but they do their job

>> No.4818993 [DELETED] 

>>4818989
stop responding to obvious and weak bait, just report and ignore

>> No.4818995

>>4818541
A completely forgettable game that feels half baked. Don't be upset people didn't care about it.

>> No.4819008

>>4818923
Did all of that especially for bosses, does not change the fact that the game lacks strategy this way and comes down to combos

>> No.4819328

>>4818974
I like this response.

>> No.4819336

Vagrant Story is a weird specimen in that the learning curve is actually rough on both sides of the graph. In the beginning, it's way too hard to figure out, but once you hit a certain knowledge and experience level, it suddenly becomes really easy and not that fun anymore.

>> No.4819362

I played it for a while and found the mechanics very interesting, but the game is quite tedious.

The menus are frequent and slow.

>> No.4819514

>>4818981
>he actually clicked on all the links
Lol, fucking obsessive retard. Stay mad, mate.

>> No.4819527

>>4818981
Are you frustrated?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/05/23/vagrant-story

>> No.4819635

>>4818831
To be fair, Squaresoft was pretty solid during the 90s. You could pick up one of their games and count on getting your money's worth.

>> No.4819659

>>4818521
this is probably the only game i've ever 100% completed. i hope it never gets a sequel or remake, it is perfect all ready.

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4820186

>>4819659
yeah I played countless hours an yet there was still stuff to do.
You can tell a lot of dedication was put into it.

>> No.4820301

>>4818884
There's been way more /v/ posting lately, I hate it.

>> No.4822102

wew

>> No.4823562

I bought a PSX to play this and FF7

>> No.4823910

>>4819527
thanks

>> No.4823918

>>4819527
That review sickens me

>> No.4823931

>>4818521
Parasite Eve > Vagrant Shit

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4823934

>>4823931
Great game, but no.

>> No.4824426

>>4818649
100% this

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4826001

>>4823931
SEETHING
raging like this because Vagrant THE GOAT Story its too complex for your babby inferior shit intellect.
lol

>> No.4826003

>>4826001
>Story its too complex
You guys really need to get stories from stuff other than games (or anime) sometimes, Jesus.

>> No.4826007

Other aspects (such as "it's too hard for me so it sucks") aside, I've seen mediocre translators criticising the translation because they know they'd never be able to make something that's even better than the original. Sour grapes are sour.

>> No.4827224

>>4818569
Pick a weapon to use on dragon type enemies and kill a lot of lizardmen. That will bring its dragon affinity up.

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4827513

>>4823931
Vandal Hearts > wonky 2D faces.
Blood for the blood god!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Pajl8dMXE&t=54

>> No.4827851

>>4818569

Man up and chain 1hp hits to infinity

>> No.4829131

>>4827851
lol

>> No.4829207

>>4818569
Stick a dragon gem on a spear and poke it's tail

>> No.4829623

>>4829207
this

>> No.4831535

>>4829207
lol yup

>> No.4831560

>>4818645
>Plot: Makes no sense until the end, at which point it deliberately makes even less sense.

I was confused as fuck halfway through the game where it throws you into bossfight with who you assume is the villain, so I started attacking him not realizing the game wants you to team up for some reason.

>> No.4831568

>>4818521
> 259x194
incredibly scary. how about not being an autist and uploading a picture that isn't shit?

>> No.4831917
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4831917

>>4831568
>calling other autists
>sperging like a terminal retard over something no one cares about
wew

>> No.4832464

>>4818983
this lol

>> No.4832468

>>4818831
That's because their games are the stuff of legend.

>> No.4832489

>>4832468
Their most beloved games here are storyfaggy stuff with mechanics as an afterthought. So have to disagree here

>> No.4832547

>>4826003
They probably meant "convoluted."

>> No.4832613

>>4826003
Sure it's easy to read a book or watch a movie, but video games aren't passive like that. They make you work for it.

>> No.4832634

>>4829207
really wish I could ever break an enemy's bodypart before completely killing the enemy first

>> No.4832732

>>4832489
so tell me, is there any fucking game u like? You pretentious neckbeard?
go back to /poo/

>> No.4832743

>>4818521
The combat is such a slow slog, the entire dungeon you're in is various shades of gray and brown, the whole thing is dark, boring, and tedious. Was hyped for it and got it for my birthday when it came out, literally the biggest let down of my entire gaming life.

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4832759

>>4832489
There have been few publishers who have managed to deliver the quality and consistency that Squaresoft pulled off throughout the 90s.

>> No.4832760

>>4832743
k.

>> No.4833178

>>4832759
xd
>>4832732
Plenty

>> No.4833804

>>4818569
actual attack power is way more important than weapon affinity.

Fought a dragon with a two handed sword with very high dragon affinity and was stuck hitting at 1hp. Swapped it with a dagger I recently found and was doing actual damage.

Honestly, ignore affinity. it's nowhere near as important as you might think.

>> No.4834190

>>4833804
Are you sure that you just didn't swap a slashing weapon for a piercing weapon? I remember using spears for my first playthrough for most dragons, but in ng+ I was breezing through the game with a two-handed sword.

>> No.4834239

>>4834190
I beat the game multiple times, never used a shit spear

>> No.4834261

>>4834239
That's not the point, daggers can also do piercing damage.

>> No.4834274

>>4833804
damage points and phantom points also make a difference
also type > affinity > class

>> No.4834283

>>4834274
>phantom points
Literally the most important stat on a weapon. A weapon with 0 PP will do like 10% of the damage it would at max PP.