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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4789434

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1523/93/1523936193601.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

BUILD ENGINE LAUNCHERS
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.4794809

=== NEWS ===

[05-22] 20th Anniversary of Unreal, Gold Edition available for free on both Steam and GOG for a limited time

[05-22] ZScript tutorial: handling user input by creating a speed booster button
https://www.bitchute.com/video/h7CpDhKwp1bX/

[05-19] Demon Counter Strike 0.05c
http://static.allfearthesentinel.net/wads/demoncounterstrike-v0.05c.pk3

[05-18] More QCDE stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYu4jTqbf8

[05-18] Champions v2.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456&p=1052735#p1052735

[05-14] ZScript tutorial: create a monster duplication addon
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zuz0EZxygDuU/

[05-13] Datanon's extension of his first ZScript tutorial, an advanced example of turning DECORATE into more ZS style code
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4765556/#4769745

[05-13] Colorful Hell update to 0.931; a new optional hard tier and filling up more
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=615#p1053912

[05-11] Datanon's ZScript Tutorials
https://www.bitchute.com/profile/ObFVcYVZSoSQ/

[05-11] AMC TC Episode 3 Trailer
https://youtu.be/zjEbwtg2luo

[05-10] TTS sound effects, available through a download
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4F9tQWKOU

[05-08] Deep learning AI generating Doom maps
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611072/ai-generates-new-doom-levels-for-humans-to-play/

[05-04] Champions, a compatibility-friendly monster variant mod, now 1.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[05-03] Anon's ZScript video tutorials
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4744020/#4748086

[04-30] PROJECT ILE version 0.23 released
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4741726
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e52z704ui56acjm/Project%20ILE.rar

[04-27] Powerslave EX Revival "not far" according to lead developer
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/989945964831105024

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>> No.4794812

Unreal is a great game and I'm glad to see it free for people.
Happy birthday, Unreal.

>> No.4794816

>>4794812
I'm glad I got it for free.
I didn't even know this game existed to honest.
I thought there was just Unreal Tournament.

>> No.4794830
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>>4794816
If I remember right, UT was supposed to be an expansion but ended up as a standalone game.

>> No.4794832

>>4794816
At least you knew there was an Unreal game and not just the engine.

>> No.4794841

>>4794632
Realistic shooters have their place (however not all of them are good, and not all of them are actually that realistic), but if one never plays the fantastical and less realistic shooters like Doom or Quake, they're missing out.

>> No.4794889
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Posting a random wallpaper that I found for no real reason.

>> No.4794893
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Also found this and thought it was amusing. Anybody remember this game?

>> No.4794895
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Is Blood 2 worth playing?

>> No.4794896

Why GZDoom is so poorly optimized. There are FPS drops to 10 on my GTX 1070.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAPVRPEJ2wM

>> No.4794904

>>4794895
No. Bad weapon/enemies balance, poor level design, clunky gunplay and movement. Better play first one.

>> No.4794913

>>4794896
gross.

>> No.4794921

>>4794896
Why are you still doing this? Dragging the joke for too long is just pathetic

>> No.4794938

>>4794921
Where it is joke? It is Doom Remastered Edition.

>> No.4794945
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>>4794896
Look man,you have talent but don't waste it on making a 3D version of Doom.
It hurts the aesthetic,it just doesn't fit at all.

>> No.4794946
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>>4794938
Teбe eщё нe нaдoeлo тoлcтить?

>> No.4794951

>>4794945
Doom is already made in 3D. If you play Hell on the Earth Remastered, all 3D models actually fit in. I'm only waiting when all textures with PBR materials will be available, maybe I'll try making some by myself.

>> No.4794952

Who /heretic&hexen/ here? I love these games. I tried that Heretic high res textures pack on moddb and it looked awful though, I got rid of that pretty quick. Could anyone tell me how to install the Legend: Farewell Edition mod for Hexen on the Doomsday engine? It says add Legend83FW.wad to the Doomsday wads menu, then add Legend83FW.ded to the definitions menu. I can't find a definitions menu anywhere. I feel like such an idiot. I'm a goddamn moron. Two simple steps and I just cannot figure it out. I've never used Doomsday before but I love Hexen and this looks like a lot of fun.

>> No.4794965

>>4794952
Try "masters of chaos", excellent pwad for heretic

>> No.4794971

>>4794965
I just downloaded that earlier but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I'll play it later today though, sounds like a good time. I also got one called Call of the Apostate.

>> No.4794978

>>4794952
Nevermind, I got the mod working but it's super laggy and I don't know why. Hexen runs perfectly in GZ Doom but this mod is only compatible with Doomsday.

>> No.4794981

>>4794938
You mean "Doom: krivorukiy Vasyan edition"?

>> No.4794985

can someone give me a quick rundown on how Doom isn't actually 3D, I'm new to the series

>> No.4794991

>>4794896
>high res normal and spec mapped textures
>bloom and other 'cinematic' post processing effects
>godawful 3d models

Why do people think this shit looks better?

It doesn't.

>> No.4794994

>>4794981
Doom Remastered 2018 Dark Edition Repack by vasyan777

>> No.4794998

>>4794896
How's your CPU? Might have to do with that

>> No.4795006

>>4794994
Doom Retarded: Beyond Zhoporukiy Vasyan 2k18

>> No.4795007

>>4794985
It's 2d with the illusion that it's 3d. Quake is real 3D.

>> No.4795008

>>4794978
Silky smooth 5-13 FPS playing this on Doomsday. I just don't understand it. I'm playing on a crappy laptop but the requirements for this should be so low that any toaster should run it fine. It makes no sense, I don't know what the problem is. I set rend-model to 0, set rend-light-decor to 0, then turned off dynamic lights and everything else in the performance options. Set resolution to 640x480 and this 5-13 FPS is the best I can get. Yet I can run F.E.A.R. at medium settings on the laptop. I'm totally baffled. I'll quit replying to myself and shitting up the thread now though.

>> No.4795009

>>4794994
Makes me wish Putin added 4chan to his list of banned sites.

>> No.4795010

>>4794985
It is 2d with an additional height variable.

>> No.4795012
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>>4794808

>> No.4795021

>>4795009
We're really sorry, please forgive his stupidity. His mother drank too much vodka during her pregnancy.

>> No.4795032

>>4794896

>no weapon bob

>> No.4795035

How do I get ideas for maps? All my usual methods of watching scifi shows aren't working anymore.

>> No.4795039

>>4795032
There is but 2D bobbing, I need to make 3D bobbing somehow.

>> No.4795043

>>4795012
>Very few companies can afford the extreme cost of turning someone into a Necris
>let's just do it on a nali cow

>> No.4795048

>>4794896

this is what blender + unity does

oh, wait

>> No.4795060
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>>4795043
Why didn't they just use the Respawner on Laura when she died?

>> No.4795063 [SPOILER] 
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>>4795060

>FLaGs

>> No.4795065

>The slots are rolling...
>4...
>4...
>pukename rigslots 4 4 5

No regrets

>> No.4795069

>>4794985
the player view is rendered in 3d with certain restrictions such as at most one floor/ceiling height at a given point - no floor-over-floor makes the automap possible.

on the other hand, the game world, monster movement, collision detection etc. is mostly modelled using only two dimensions, again with certain exceptions such as checking bullet traces or missiles actually hit instead of going over your head.

>> No.4795070

>>4795039
P sure you can have it run an animation when you're moving.

>> No.4795072

>>4794938
Зaeбaл, иди двoщepoв тpaлиpoвaть.

>> No.4795094
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>>4794985

>> No.4795096

>>4794998
Xeon X5690, 6 cores 3.5 ghz. Running 32bit GZDoom, maybe I should try 64 bit. I'm running 32 bit coz Reshade effects don't work with 64 bit.

>> No.4795097
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>>4794896
reminds me of this wonderful thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCigiEuRvrA

>> No.4795101

>>4794985
Autism and pedantry.

>> No.4795109
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>>4795101

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>>4794985
all of the assets are 2D, monsters, weapons, levels, everything were just 2D assets rendered in 3d. As a result you cannot have multi floored levels without trickery like the Build Engine and later doom engine titles.
Quake's monsters, weapons and levels were all real 3D models. This allows level design to be completely unrestricted and the designers are free to do whatever the hardware can reliably run.

>> No.4795137
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So I'm replaying AVP 2000.It'sI've finished the third mission of the marine.
The facehuggers are the absolute worst.
Here they're placed in the shadows and they're so small,they can one shot you too.
This mission "Invasion" is pretty good but look at this bullshit at 5:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5okUzZwkRi4

How are you supposed to figure that out?

>> No.4795142

For those that somehow missed the news: Unreal Gold is free in Steam and GOG.com.

But there's less than two (2) hours left on the offer, so be goddamn sure to pick it NOW in case you haven't.

https://www.gog.com/game/unreal_gold
https://store.steampowered.com/app/13250/Unreal_Gold/

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HUUH

>> No.4795164

>>4795160
best artstyle in any game ever seriously

>> No.4795165

>>4794985
It's 2D the same way the universe is 2D.

>> No.4795187

what are some challenge ideas for quake
gonna try a no hit run this weekend

>> No.4795191

What song names would make amazing Doom maps?

>> No.4795192

>>4795187
arcane dimensions on nightmare

>> No.4795195

Since there's a lion baron enemy, are there any other variants for the baron based off other creatures like one of those egyptian black cats, an oni or a gorilla?

>> No.4795201

Does anyone have the link to monster-only version of Babel?

>> No.4795218

>>4794985
All the other answers in this thread are wrong. The engine itself is 3D. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to walk up and down stairs. However the data structure that the levels are stored in doesn't factor in Z values, which is why you can't have room over room.

>> No.4795221
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4795221

Damn, Chasm: The Rift's gritty yet slightly cartoony art style works REALLY well in Doom.
(seen in the WIP thread on ZDoom forums)

>> No.4795228

>>4795218

have you realized that you can't look up or down because the engine is missing a vanishing point in the z axis? (because is 2d)

>> No.4795234

>>4795009
He's just a notorious shitposter who found his way out of the containment board

>> No.4795239

>>4795201
https://mega.nz/#!HgEE1JxA!FVh89dkIoyZtOdFTRYRWxsfM0_Qt9ovcRhsR05qHkK0
Apparently this is just a preliminary version and one with better balance is being worked on.

>> No.4795251

Idea for death animation: Doomguy burns to ashes and his eyeballs are seen in the HUD, floating for a while and still, before falling, with the camera gown down respectively

>> No.4795269

>>4795228
Yes, the vanilla renderer is 2D raycasted, but GL-enabled source ports fix that issue. The engine is still 3D, because it technically does have a Z axis.

>> No.4795273
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Why does Corrupted Dreams' DeHackEd break so hard? I wanted to see Xaser's mod.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/corupt_x
Not shown in video: Chainsaw weapon that can't be picked up, zombiemen dropping rocketlaunchers, the fuckhuge chaingun pickup

>> No.4795276
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>>4795273
>the fuckhuge chaingun pickup
Seen here.

>> No.4795282

>>4795273
Damn, that's some shitty animation. I'd close the game and delete the mod the very moment I saw that garbage. Unacceptable.

>> No.4795284

>>4795276
lol

>> No.4795293

>>4795221
Holy shit, that looks... Really, really great. What thread?

>> No.4795295

>>4795221
I hope I can remember to keep up with this, it does look good/promising

>> No.4795296

>>4795035
To watch non-sci-fi shows, and try recreate interiors in doom or futuristic style?

>> No.4795301

>>4795293
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1055289#p1055289

>> No.4795341

>>4795191
Kings Of Metal (its in memento mori 2)
one of the best maps ever made

>> No.4795349

>>4795276
>literal BFG

>> No.4795374

>>4795191
I think there's a lot of metal songs that would work well as doom maps. There a pretty nice vanilla map pack called Somewhere in Time after the Iron Maiden album that uses a bunch of old school metal midis, which I found to be pretty charming.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/intime

>> No.4795376

>>4795191

Damnation For The Weak

>> No.4795397

>>4795221
You're... not wrong.

First time I'ver ever seen 3D models in doom that didn't look like shit.

>> No.4795429
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Could someone hook me up with status bar packs? Wanna go through as many of them as possible to find the one right for me.

>> No.4795439

>>4795191
Puritania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urdv-CTuEpo

>> No.4795454

I'm looking for a good weapon mod. Preferably one that doesn't change anything but the weapons so it won't break monster mods. High Noon Drifter is the one I like most so far. Nice loud weapons, shotgun is very satisfying to shoot, good animations, everything fits well. I just want something different.

>> No.4795456

So, Scourge of Armagon.
Start map and HIP1M1 - crap. Never touching anything from Mustaine again.
HIP1M2 - okayish, but, eh. besides, it's the only level by that dude (Jim Dose) in the addon.
HIP1M3 - typical "Muh subtlety!" Levelord, plays like his Duke maps. More like plays SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE his Duke maps considering Quake has vastly different mechanics and enemies. Yes, I am SUBTLY hinting upon him being a one-trick pony. Still, this map is heads and shoulders above three previous ones, so it's doesn't feel right sort of badmouthing him. Nonstop-decryption of """subtle""" hints telegraphing the traps, coupled with "just oh so" enemy and item placements, that is basically any Levelord map ever is really, really old by this point.
HIP3DM (Edge of Oblivion) - eh? whu? what? the actual fuck? Okay, I am aware of the tremendous historical significance of this map. I am also aware Levelord considers it pretty much the work he is still most proud of. And I don't mean the level is bad. It's a fucking beauty. What I mean is that it's extremely out of character. It doesn't even fucking flow the way his other levels do. There is a sharp divide between HIP1M3 which is pretty much "Levelord's Duke level reskinned for Quake" and this. It simply defies any sort of explanation.

I guess, I'll play other Levelord's levels from Scourge after all. Maybe they will ultimately provide a link.

>> No.4795459

>>4795456
>HIPDM1

>> No.4795473
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>>4794952
Right here. Love the Serpent Rider series and Hexen is my all time favorite game.

>> No.4795482

Any levelsets that have a map that takes place on a large moving vehicle/train, like that map from Strange Aeons?

>> No.4795516

>>4795008
did you try changing the renderer from software to hardware?

>> No.4795518

>>4795021
That's not a result of vodka, his mother clearly drank Listerine during her pregnancy.

>>4794985
It's technically two dimensional, but the two dimensions are used to make what's effectively three dimensional spaces.

>> No.4795531

>>4795473
interested in giving hexen a try sometime soon.

>> No.4795540

>>4795516
Where are the options for that in Doomsday engine? I can't find any for it at the main menu and when I launch the game from it there's no option for it in that menu either.

>> No.4795548

>>4795531
Just don't go into it expecting Doom; it ain't Doom. By that I mean the level structure and whatnot.

>> No.4795554
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>>4795540
I dont know, i only use chocolate, zandronum, and gzdoom. Its a really common setting across ports so you should be able to find it by googling.

>> No.4795564

>>4795554
The option just isn't there anywhere. It uses OpenGL so I don't know why it performs so terribly running Hexen when GZ Doom performs perfectly.

>> No.4795572

>>4795564
Just run it on chocolate, it runs flawlessly on chocolate.

>> No.4795585

So I wanna replay Doom and Doom II, and I've been on a bit of a cyberpunk/sythwave binge. What are some fun little weapon/visual/music mods I could play?

>> No.4795593

>>4795531
there's only 3 weapons and youll only be wanting to use maybe 2 of them, it kinda sucks
> and the puzzles are worse than zelda level frustrating

>> No.4795597

>>4794895
I want to add that Caleb to my Samsara.

>> No.4795598

>>4795585
Just listen to Megadrive while playing it.
And that volume 3 retrowave horror compilation.

>> No.4795602

>>4795585
There's a cool little mapset called Violence which you might be into.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/84829-violence-4-map-ep/
Dunno about mods though.

>> No.4795603

>>4795572
Oh, I can run and play Hexen perfectly on GZ Doom. The trouble is that I want to play this mod here and it can only run properly on Doomsday. You can load it with GZ Doom or whatever but it'll crash randomly. I suffered through the first level at 10 FPS on Doomsday and it was pretty nice, it's a total remake of it with the levels remade ans all. I'll just hope my PC can run it fine when I can get enough space here to hook it up. https://www.moddb.com/mods/legend-farewell-edition/downloads/legend-farewell-edition-83

>> No.4795608

>>4795593
4 weapons per class, 12 total.

>> No.4795614

>>4795597
If the issue was his movement, couldn't they just leave that and focus on his arsenal, since most characters aren't always that accurate?

>> No.4795615

>>4795585
Ancient Aliens wad is perfect for you. Also grab the Final Doomer weapons mod and use the Ancient Aliens weapon set it has when you play it.

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>>4795608
>>4795593
>>4795531
Yeahh actually you only want to play the Fighter class because the other two are shit. Fighter has the most health and their weapons do as good a job as the other two classes.

The Hammer is kinda like a low grade rocket launcher and the Sword is the best weapon in the game (alibet expensive to use).

Also Slot 0 weapons dont count as weapons.

>> No.4795634

>>4795585
Try the Synthdoom jukebox, breddy gud.

>> No.4795635
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>> No.4795647
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>>4794889
Who /Blood/ here

>> No.4795650

So in Dehacked is it possible to prevent the SS Nazi from dropping clips?

>> No.4795658

>>4795650
Yeah, that can be a problem if you want to replace them with more traditional monsters, a problem we had with the chainsaw zombies for the Halloween wad.

>> No.4795670

>>4795631
Cleric and Mage are both great, what are you one about? Every class has the same health, you're thinking of their Armor Class, which Fighter has the most. Quietus is the worst, albeit the cheapest, of the three final weapons, especially compared to Wraithverge.

>Also Slot 0 weapons dont count as weapons.
Say that to the Sapphire Wand.

>> No.4795675

>>4795615
So I installed Final Doomer and right off the bat I'm noticing massive slowdown in player movement to the point where I can't access secrets. Is there a toggle for that?

>> No.4795682

>>4795454
After going through some of the weapon mods I've download, I think you might be looking for Complex Doom and Eriguns 1. Things you might look into but not sure if they fit your criteria are: Doom RL Arsenal (DRLA), Weapons of Saturn, Accessories to Murder (doomnukem), and Psychic. I know you said you wanted something different but SmoothDoom really does have some great animations as well. All of these should work well with enemy replaces.

>> No.4795685

>>4795675
Oh yeah, I forgot about that shit. I got used to playing with always run on while using Final Doomer because they fucked the movement speed. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. There's no option to change it in the mod. I read about people opening up the mod and fixing it themselves but I don't know how to do that. I just use the mods, I don't know anything about changing them.

>> No.4795686

>>4795670
>Say that to the Sapphire Wand.
Yeah, mage is just facerolling through both the game and its addon on any difficulty due to how unbelievably broken that weapon is.

>> No.4795694

>>4795686
It's so good I had to force myself to use his other spells. Then I learned that Frost Shards has a melee effect that's really strong and I began to use that a lot; really spiced up the gameplay.

>> No.4795697

>>4795670
The fighters 3rd and 4th weapons are inferior to the cleric and mage's, but the fighter's first 2 are way better than the others' first 2. The cleric's first is absolutely horrible and his second is just okay (its basically the wand but slightly better), while the mage's first is okay (useful but tedious & unsatisfying) and his second is bad (not very powerful and makes enemies freeze in your path). The fighter can kill a centaur in a few punches or a couple swings, while the others will spend all day shooting gay little magic missiles at him (and occasionally getting hit by the reflections).

>> No.4795705

How imperative the 227 patch for Unreal Gold is?

>> No.4795712

>>4795647
Ive never played it. I couldnt get it to work.

>> No.4795721

>>4795712
Well nowadays its pretty simple to download BloodGDX, place it in the same folder as Blood, and run it. Very accurate, besides the OpenGL rendering.

>> No.4795735

>>4795697
>useful but tedious & unsatisfying
You know, what's unsatisying? Dealing with Doom's melee, which magnetizes you to opponent for the duration of the hit thus restricting your freedom of movement. As a mage you never, ever have to go through this, you can dance around all you want without controls ever being wrought out of you even if for a second.

>> No.4795736

>>4795697
Centaurs can't reflect the Sapphire Wand or Arc of Death, not to mention Arc is the strongest tool in the game against Centaurs. Hell, Arc of Death is one of the strongest weapons in the game. Frost Shards are great if you're good at being in melee and dodging attacks. It's no Timon's Axe but it gets the job done.

>> No.4795737

>>4795735
Hexen doesn't do that with its melee combat.

>> No.4795741

FUCK YOU UAC!

If you're dumb enough to download a WAD this weekend, you're a big enough schmuck to download Hell Revealed!

Hard levels! Cacos! Barons!

If you think you're gonna have a deal with Hell Revealed, YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!

It's our belief you're such a slow straferunner that you'll get creamed by this Arch-Vile! GUARANTEED!

If you find a harder WAD, you can SHOVE ITS DEMOS UP YOUR UGLY ASS! You heard us right! SHOVE ITS DEMOS UP YOUR UGLY ASS!

Bring your SSG, bring your RL, bring your BFG, WE'LL TANK THEM! THAT'S RIGHT! WE'LL TANK YOUR BFG!

Because in Hell Revealed you're about six saves from passing! Try a pistol start in Hell Revealed!

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Don't wait, don't delay, DON'T FUCK WITH US! Or we will lock your cells off! Only at Hell Revealed, the only WAD whose intermission screen tells you to FUCK OFF! HURRY UP, ASSHOLE!

This ambush starts the minute you cross the first linedef, and you better not skip it or you're a crushed motherfucker! GO TO DIS.

Hell Revealed, Doom community's ugliest WAD and exclusively by to the meanest sons of bitches in the forums of Doomworld! GUARANTEED!

>> No.4795749
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4795749

Welp, I guess the custom weapons in Cyan-Doom just refuse to work because I only get vanilla weapons with pickups.

>> No.4795750

>>4795736
I know centaurs cant reflect all ranged shots, but they can reflect the serpent staff and frost shards, which you will be using for quite a bit of the game as a cleric or mage. And yes the arc of death is great, but I was talking about how bad their first two weapons are.
Frost shards are okay in terms of damage output but it freezes enemies in place, which is a serious bitch in Hexen's often cramped levels, forcing you to switch back to the wand to shatter them.
>>4795735
To me running up to the enemy and bashing them is a lot more satisfying than shooting weak pellets from afar, even if it's more difficult.

>> No.4795751

>>4795647
It was really fun. I hope that port gets finished soon.

>> No.4795752
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4795752

>>4795694
>>4795735
>>4795697
The only thing redeeming about the Cleric is his flechettes which release the poison cloud, I mean these stunlock the hell out of centaurs, but you can be hit by it too. His flaming glove shit sucks, the wraithverge is overrated (and expensive), and the mace is like the fighter's punch. The poison staff is okay but at some point you will run out of that blue mana and be forced to use that stupid fucking glove.

Mage stuff is okay but the Bloodscourge is underpowered and sad. It has seeker projectiles which is the only thing good about it. And like someone mentioned the Centaurs will deflect most of his projectiles.

His flechettes are awful too, practically useless. At least the fighter can toss a bunch of them and they explode, the mage just drops them on the ground and they're timebombs.

The fighter's hammer can at least hit fuckers up close even if its out of mana. And the Quietus does 500 damage per attack, not my problem if you're not able to land all of them.

The Axe can hit without mana too for that fact, it just does more if it has mana. The Axe is about the only weak point in his arsenal because its more dakka of what his fist already is, it doesnt do anything else like toss spectral throwing axes (it woulda been great to duplicate that from the axe knights in heretic). However the effect this has is when you finally see that Hammer you suddenly cream in your pants.
> Altogether the lack of ranged doesnt break the fighter though, its a different way of playing, but the other two classes are kinda worse for wear because of their dependence on them.

MFW if Ranger was in Hexen he would be a Fighter. He already knows how to use an Axe, and is proficient with grenade (flechette) use.

>> No.4795753

>>4795191
The well of souls
The sorcerer's pledge
Demon's gate

>> No.4795770
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4795770

>>4795191
>>4795753
Down In A Hole
Heaven Beside You
Would (or Wood)
Hollow
> okay yeah im just going down alice in chains songs

Which just reminded me of something I thought of this morning when I was half asleep.

We need to do...

RAVEN
KINGS
OF
THE
DOOM
CITADEL

>> No.4795775

>>4795705
It's an unofficial patch made by fans with the support from devs. I can't think of any any reason to avoid using it.

>> No.4795781

>>4794809
Champions 2.2 is here with much needed boosts in performance in larger maps:

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

>> No.4795785

>>4795752
>the wraithverge is overrated
Opinion discarded. It can literally clear rooms that you haven't even been in yet.

>> No.4795787

>>4795749
how did you get those reflective floors

>> No.4795790

>>4795752
>And like someone mentioned the Centaurs will deflect most of his projectiles
Centaurs won't deflect anything because you'd have to be stupid to fire a projectile at them after already hitting them. The reflect only occurs after they've been struck. Bloodscourge is good if you aim at the enemy's feet, obliterating anything around the impact area.

>> No.4795791

>>4795752
His mace is actually way weaker than the fighter's fists, it takes like twice as many hits to kill.
What's wrong with the firestorm and wraithverge? They look awesome and kill things dead.

>> No.4795793

>>4795752
>He doesn't know
Cleric's mace cannot be blocked by centaurs. It's complete shit other than that.

>> No.4795795

>>4795770
A megawad?

>> No.4795802

>>4795752
Serpent Staff will *never* run out of ammo, the game feeds you blue mana like air. Firestorm is good but it feels a bit inconsistent. I swear I can kill a centaur with it in two shots in one instance and then the next centaur takes six shots. Probably has something to do with the Firestorm's real strength: those little fire balls the spawn around the initial target. Those are the meat and potatoes of the spell and they don't often hit smaller enemies.

>> No.4795808
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4795808

>>4795647

>> No.4795816

>>4795752
The problem with hexen is that all the enemies have way too much HP. And also the centaurs are complete bullshit.

>> No.4795820
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4795820

>>4795635

>> No.4795823

>>4795191
Agony of the Damned
Skeletons of Society
Dam That River
Surfacing
Mouth For War

>> No.4795826

>>4795823
Nice Slayer songs in there

>> No.4795827

>>4795816
Enemies have more health than, say, Doom but your weapons hit much harder too so it balances out.

>> No.4795832

>>4795823
>Skeletons of Society
A bombed out town with a lot of revenants?

>> No.4795834

>>4795191
That's a good idea for a potential project. Making maps based around song titles.

>> No.4795840

>>4794896
>russian
>doom in 3d

>> No.4795842

>>4795826
There's only one slayer song, skeletons of society.

>Toxic Holocaust
>Slayer
>Alice In Chains
>Slipknot
>Pantera

In that order.

>>4795832
My thoughts exactly.

Mouth For War could be a map where you load up on a bunch of chainguns/rocket launchers on racks, and then go through a portal where there's a spider mastermind and dozens of rifle/chaingunners.

>> No.4795846

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KQNpQD8Ayo
I think you guys could really enjoy this GDC talk about Doom

>> No.4795847
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4795847

I wasn't expecting anything and yet I am disappointed

>> No.4795852

>>4795787
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100298-pbr-for-original-doom-textures/

>> No.4795854

>>4795191
Pretty much any track by Revenge if you wanna get edgy

>> No.4795856

>>4795847
Really? This is Doctor Betruger? I thought he was supposed to be a 60 year old bald, chubby man with a glass eye, not a fucking 50 year old with a beard, good eyes, and a full head of hair?

What on earth?

>> No.4795858
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4795858

>>4795847
>Doom 3 inspiration again
>Doesn't even look like Betruger
And to this day, the best Doom adaption to any medium is still the Doom comic

>> No.4795861

>>4795856
at least he's not Doctor Carmack or Doctor Willets this time. that made my buttocks clench.

>> No.4795862

>>4795012
>GOOD MORNING, YA BASTARDS! A BODY HAS BEEN FOUND!

>> No.4795863

>>4795840
What else would you expect from a fugitive shitposter from 2ch.hk?

>> No.4795865

>>4795858
they couldn't get Anthony Hopkins

>> No.4795867
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4795867

>>4795847
>more mutants
holy shit, I wasn't expecting this

>> No.4795872

>>4795863
I think he was chased out of there for the exact sort of thing he's doing here, they don't like him either.
So basically if we just continue to tell him to fuck off, he'll probably go somewhere else eventually, and he'll be someone else's headache.

>> No.4795881

>>4795846
Doesn't include giant visible pixels, straferunning and switch hunts, don't care

>> No.4795893
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4795893

>>4795847
I don't mind a doom 3 movie but the first doom has nothing to do with doom 3

>> No.4795896

>>4795858
>the best Doom adaption to any medium is still the Doom comic

According to fucking WHO?

>> No.4795901

>>4795896
the person you replied to, presumably.

>> No.4795903

>>4795858
>imp-lying the best doom adaptation to any medium isn't this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLu6LeUW_4

>> No.4795907

>>4795858

>Doom comic
>best anything

It doesn't even serve as good toilet paper.

The only legacy it had was a few tag lines for the new game, and even then, they could've borrowed tag lines from anywhere else.

>> No.4795914

I always thought the Doom comic was "so bad it's good."

>> No.4795915

>>4795847
>Doom 2
So it is a reboot or a sequel? I'm confused.

>> No.4795920
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4795920

>>4795915
It's (((both)))

>> No.4795921

>>4795847

w h y

>> No.4795925

Maybe someday, /vr/ should direct their own Doom movie

>> No.4795928
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4795928

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

>> No.4795932

>>4795928
Don't exaggerate

>> No.4795935 [DELETED] 

>>4795932
>not expecting cringetards to overblow everything

>> No.4795940

>>4795928

you can't be infinitely mad, you would be traveling at the speed of light

>> No.4795948

>>4795914

The comic is bad, period.

Liking the comic ironically is what started this kind of shift that I would rather not describe deeper for the sake of not sparking shitflinging between fanboys and hardcore fans.

>>4795915

So far the signs point at the new movie being loosely connected to the first one while being its own thing. Proof of this is that they're using the old UAC logo from Doom 3.

Also, that is not *the* Dr. Betruger. It's just a loose reference to the character of the game, but in order to learn that, people need to spend a couple of minutes wandering around IMDB, and judging some of the reactions it doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.

>> No.4795951
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4795951

>>4795940
Yes, but are you even on the level of anger to be warping space and time?

No, you're probably not, fucker.

>> No.4795962

>>4794841
CS, CoD and Fortnite are nowhere near realistic. Try OFP/ArmA, SWAT 3/4 and early R6 instead. These arcade/SO REAL compromises are usually bad compromises in all aspects regarding gameplay. They lack proper balance and good map design like arena shooters and the tactical aspects, restrictions and characteristics of actual realistic tactical shooters.

>> No.4795967

>>4795847
who is the evil one that puts money on this?

>> No.4795969
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4795969

Hires vs Lowres. What is better?

>> No.4795973

>>4795847
>based on doom 3
>everything is unlit
do these people train to do things wrong?

>> No.4795975

>>4794921
Because retards like you fall for it every time.

>> No.4795976

>>4795969

fix your weapon bobbing and we'll talk

>> No.4795979 [DELETED] 

>>4795896
>>4795901
>>4795907
Oh no, it got too popular (no doubt thanks to brutal doom) so now we must hate it, even though this general was sucking its dick endlessly back then.

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4795984

>>4795865
he's too busy having seizures on camera.

>> No.4795992
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4795992

Have any of you guys tried to play around with the level editing tool that nightdive added to Turok on steam?
The only decent mod out for Turok I've seen so far is Mountain of the Sun.

>> No.4795994

>>4795984
>you are in

>> No.4796000

>>4795992
it's very clunky and turok is not so popular, it's very unlikely we'll ever see a quality map

>> No.4796003
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4796003

>>4795872
> they don't like him either.
Exactly

> he was chased out of there
If only.

> if we just continue to tell him to fuck off, he'll probably go somewhere else eventually
Hopefully


By the way, recently, he shitted on the Void and Rainbows wad, saying stuff like "detalization looks like it was made in Oblige", "RREEEEEE PIXELS" and even "It has fucking anime music, obviously some animefaggot made this wad"

>> No.4796007

>>4795979

I like the part where absolutely nobody brought BD as factor, yet you somehow decided to do it.

>> No.4796015 [DELETED] 

>>4796007
So? Are you saying the statement of BD popularizing the comic is wrong or what? Why are you getting aggressive over the sole mention of it?

>> No.4796024
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>>4796000
That's a shame. Turok is probably my favorite classic FPS.
At least Mountain of the Sun is pretty good.

>> No.4796032
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>>4794896
all this people crying over this makes me want to play it more

>> No.4796041

>>4796032
A true contrarian.

>> No.4796076
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>Lets make a direct sequel to heretic
>Lets make it Third Person Perspective exclusive
What the absolute fuck was Raven thinking?

>> No.4796078
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>>4796032
Pretty much how I feel about Brutal Doom or Project Brutality. People really have a hissy fit over those.

>> No.4796092

>>4796076
Probably thought they wanted to make the game more vertical and have platforming that wasn't awful like Hexen's, so fuck it, third person, look at our sequel's engine

>> No.4796095

>Playing D4T on Consolation Prize's PSX maps
>Map 08
>Kills both barons and the spectres
>Level doesn't open up and i got stuck

>> No.4796096

There's nothing wrong with the Doom comic. It's just an illustrated LP.

>> No.4796101

>>4795191
Blackened
All Guns Blazing
Grave Within A Grave
Judgment Night
We Have Explosive
Scream Aim Fire
The Pretty Things Are Going To Hell
Baptized in Filth

>> No.4796103

>>4796015
there was nothing aggressive about that post any more than yours.

>> No.4796139

>>4795969
>Hires vs Lowres. What is better?

Walls are good on 2018. Everything else is better on 1994.

>> No.4796161
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4796161

wads with overly detailed maps?

>> No.4796181

>>4795137
The marine levels are for the most part much harder than the other two. If you hate facehuggers, wait until you get a load of the bullshit the predators pack.

>> No.4796184

>>4796161
Chainworm

>> No.4796187

>>4796184

I actually just played it

>> No.4796190

>>4796161
Going down

>> No.4796204

>>4796161
Does Brigandine count? It makes my shit ass laptop chug.

>> No.4796207
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4796207

trying to make a pseudo-smooth animation with offsets and new-ish sprites (edited vented shotgun by Mike12 and the pump frames by Turbo)

its always fun to have new sprites that are still kind of the old one but look ever so slightly different to give your mod that slightly different feeling from vanilla.

>> No.4796212

>>4795907
>>4795979
I like the comicbook as this stupid, curious little piece of merchandise/marketing.

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>>4796161
Crucified Dreams.
Absolutely fucking beautiful, but it's Deathmatch Only.

>> No.4796225

>>4796204
>>4796190
>>4796204
>>4796218

I'm sorry I was not clear, I'm looking for fine details

I'll check them anyway

>> No.4796238
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>>4796225

like this

>> No.4796239

>>4796225
Crucified Dreams has stupid amount of fine detail.

>> No.4796245

>>4796238
you might like the cathedral level in Deus Vult 2.

>> No.4796267

>>4795753
I think we can safely say that something like 70% of Candlemass songs would work.

>> No.4796305

>>4796225
Hope you like Brigandine, I thought it was a pretty good looking map. It had too many enemies for my taste though. Too hard for me. Same with Swim with the Whales and Sunlust. Beautiful maps. Hard as fuck and so many enemies my toaster has a hard time with them.

>> No.4796321 [DELETED] 
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4796321

Designing a new hud for the Half Life/Doom crossover. I'm debating either green, or the original orange. (I'm aware some bits of the green are still orange, but I wanna decide on a color before redoing the entire hud)

https://www.strawpoll.me/15762753

>> No.4796346

>>4796321
Why not red?

>> No.4796354

>>4796346
Better dead than red.

>> No.4796361

>>4796346
Red is hard to see.

>> No.4796369
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4796369

Heyyyy guyys

>> No.4796373

>>4796369
doomguy has tits and a massive bulge

>> No.4796381

>>4796369
>Not calling it Doom Rip! or Doom Rip N' Tear!

>> No.4796383

>>4796369

OOO III

>> No.4796393

>>4796369
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>> No.4796408
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4796408

Anybody here have a workflow and tips for using portals in GzDoom? Working with static variants is a pain if you want enemies to actually see through the portals.

>> No.4796415

>>4796408
Turn up the goddamn brightness and maybe I'll be able to give advice for your problem. I can't see shit.

>> No.4796419

>>4796415
>maybe I'll be able to give advice for your problem
That's probably on account of there being no problem demonstrated in the webm.

>> No.4796421

>>4796393
jfc did you get to be the hall monitor as a kid or something?

>> No.4796423 [DELETED] 

>>4796421
Found the /co/ckold.

>> No.4796426

>>4794893
Yeah, they remastered it

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4796430

Hexen 2016 was such a strange direction. They completely abandoned the run-and-gun style of the previous games and made it about exploration and puzzles? I mean, sure, maybe you'd get that kind of gameplay from Painkiller, but Hexen's always been about shooting demons from the word "Go".

At least Konami still managed to put out a decent Blood reboot, even if they had to shoehorn in some Silent Hill references. But I guess they're just showing off what they can do with their new IP.

>> No.4796436

>>4796430
yeah, yeah, it's hexen this and hexen that, but what about duke nukem? still hasn't even gotten a decent source port. duke was a breath of fresh air, an 80s action hero among the heretic clones
even now, if i see another fucking swords and sorcery shooter i'm going to shit my pants
BRING BACK THE GUNS AND ROCKET LAUNCHERS

>> No.4796438

>>4796430
Look, you guys are all cool and such on \gv\, but wouldn't this be a better fit for retro vidya? I think \rv\ would suit you guys better. Just a suggestion!

>> No.4796448

>>4796436

Duke Nukem 3D was a truly underrated gem. Playing as a polite British gentleman was so much fun. Kick open a door, "Jolly good show!", and then just shotgun everyone.
Man, I miss using shotguns.

>> No.4796464

>>4796369
heh

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Finished the main chunk of the hud for the HL/Doom mod, still have a couple ammo icons to do though. Also gonna style the flashlight to more resemble the Doom 3 one.

>> No.4796474

>>4796369
I was anticipating this. You guys do not disappoint.

>> No.4796475
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4796475

Am I the only one who thinks that the Skaarj feel inspired by Predators?
The look tribal, the mouth is similiar,they also seem to have dreads like them.

>> No.4796481

Speaking of Unreal. Is the sequel worth playing?

>> No.4796483

>>4796430
When is unreal focusing on the multiplayer again? I'm sick and tired of all the mediocre SP games.

>> No.4796485

>>4796481

Unreal II, in my opinion, is pretty much the exact point when 90s FPSes started to die out.
It's a clear downhill factor in everything compared to the original, but it's...playable.

>> No.4796493

>>4796475
I thought that was kind of obvious.

>> No.4796495

>>4796481
No.

>> No.4796497

>>4796475
so aliens vs predators is doom vs unreal

>> No.4796501

>>4796076
Hexen is an adventure-fps hybrid with platforming thrown in. 3rd person is good both for platforming and adventure games, and can work pretty well for a shooter. Seeing as they wanted to make old Hexen even more cryptic, with more types of puzzles, harder enemies etc.
Also wasn't it the Heretic 2 which became 3rd person?

>> No.4796503

>>4796501
I said direct sequel

>> No.4796504

>>4796501
Are you okay?

>> No.4796506

so should i get the doom 64 wad/mod or emulate?

>> No.4796507

>>4796506
Doom 64 EX

>> No.4796517

>>4796493
I thought that too.The similarities are many,surprised to see they didn't have troubles with 20th century Fox.

>> No.4796525

>>4796003
>That pissy schoolboy lexicon
It always makes me want to smack a bitch. Good riddance.

>> No.4796542

>>4796503
>>4796504
Fuck. No, I'm not okay and that was a fucking dumb post.

>> No.4796545

>>4796161
[Spoiler]knee-deep in zdoom[/spoiler]

>> No.4796546
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4796546

How come we don't get any maps for Doom 64 EX anyway? There's a perfectly functional editor specifically for it.

>> No.4796551

>>4796542

If you're not feeling too hot, take a break and play some fun vidya. The internet can wait.
Then once you're back, I'll pat your head and call you a faggot. But you'll always be welcome back on /vr/.

>> No.4796612

What wad delivers best on "vanilla, but better" in terms of graphics?

>> No.4796615
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4796615

Unreal is cool so far.

>> No.4796617

>>4795191
Soul Forge
Battalions of Fear
Welcome to Death
>>4795834
I would love to make that a reality.

>> No.4796627

>>4796430
What about a return to Doom and Quake? Doom was pretty good, and even though Quake was pretty confusing with it's whole "a switch appeared somewhere!" deal, both games deserve way better sequels than the ones they got.

>> No.4796632

>>4796615
Best FPS ost.

>> No.4796635

>>4796481

use console commands to increase walking speed, but yeah, I must be the most unreal fan in this thread and I think unreal 2 is pretty meh, it had good graphics at the time with his abuse of the new static meshes but that's it

>> No.4796636

>>4796546
Lighting is a pain in the ass

>> No.4796642

>>4796627
damn, anon, those are some pretty obscure choices.

might be interesting, though, especially since wolfenstein ended up focusing on arena multiplayer.

>> No.4796645

>>4796506

doom 64 retribution

>> No.4796647

>>4796642
I'm sick of all the Strife sequels.

>> No.4796658
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>brutal hexen abandoned

It stings. I know a lot of you lads hate Brutal Doom but Brutal Hexen wasn't like that. It was good and I still play the release of it we got. I wish I was smart. I'd try to pick it up and finish it if I knew how to do it.

>> No.4796662

>>4796481

also this

>>4796632

the only song I remember from unreal 2 is this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPWZwXadVig#

>> No.4796667

>>4796658

>I wish I was smart

that's just lazyness

>> No.4796691

>>4796658
It looked like the same old shit, probably would have ended up with cancerous features like random trees added here and there the way BD did.

>> No.4796698

>>4796658
>I wish I was smart
Quit frogposting. Pick up SLADE, start learning. Make something better than square headed faggot could ever make.

>> No.4796708

>>4796369
CalArts Doom?

>> No.4796715

>>4796658
Be the change you want to see in the world.

>> No.4796721

>>4796408
Working with static portals isn't THAT bad. Just keep doing what you're doing.

>> No.4796725

>>4796408
Portals + AI almost never works well together, but the best advice is that when using static portals position your sectors in such a way that, if considered objectively without portals, moving towards the player would make an enemy go through the portal.

>> No.4796736

>>4796393
Based backseat janitor saving the thread from the horrors of fun

>> No.4796763

>>4796612
smooth doom

>> No.4796769

>>4794808
Anyone know of any Quake 1 mods similar to Chillo's where it smoothens up the models?

https://twitter.com/danielwienerson/status/947991068422709249?lang=en
Link for those who don't know what I'm talking about

>> No.4796831

>>4795928
Just eat some Popeye's butterfly shrimp and calm down brah.

>> No.4796840

>finally got home
>thread slows to a crawl

evritiem

>> No.4796847
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>>4796840
>post a funneh meme on an active thread
>thread dies

>> No.4796848

>>4795847
Good news for people who think that this is the bad guy for nudoom 2: nuMalcom Betruger is only coming to Doom movie 2.
https://mobile.twitter.com/dommafham/status/999388721102426114

>> No.4796852

g-guys, I was sitting on the toilet for so long that my legs fell asleep, send help, I'll be found dead, naked and with my ass cheeks full of diarrea

>> No.4796854

>>4796369
>just like we doomed western cartoons

>> No.4796858

>>4796041
if that helps you to sleep at nights, sure

>> No.4796860

>>4796858
You just admitted to be one though.

>> No.4796864
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>>4796369
Get to my level, boi.

>> No.4796868

>>4796860
sure, whatever, man

>> No.4796882
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>>4796769
>he removed the tits from the vore
dang

>> No.4796889

>>4796864
>actually looking good
>no flat as fuck color
>no retarded teeth smile and disgusting bodyfat

where is your point my man

>> No.4796896

>>4796662
I don't remember any of unreal 2. Except that living planet and whats-her-ass's ass.

>> No.4796908

>>4796369
Jesus Christ, it even has a bean respirator.

>> No.4796925

>>4796852
lel le ebin randem memer olololol

>> No.4796927

>>4796925
>he doesn't phonedoom in the toilet
I pity you

>> No.4796967
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4796967

Have we ever talked about this game in this general?

>> No.4796968
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thoughts on the factory

>> No.4796973

>>4796882
Well it does smooth the models after all

>> No.4796984

http://www.perkristian.net/music/perkristian_doom-e1m8.ogg
what's your favorite non-E1M1 Doom tracks, remix or otherwise

>> No.4796990

What is the license like on the Doom Voxel Project? Can I just up and use it in another mod?

>> No.4796993

>>4796990
But why? People who wants to use voxels would just use them?

>> No.4797007

>>4796968
Meh. Love the music tho

>> No.4797008

>>4796968
not that bad

>> No.4797012

>>4795647
That ad is so unrelated to the game that it's absurd.

>> No.4797014

>>4795712
Just get "One Unit Whole Blood" from GOG. Don't forget to download the "Death Wish" mod as well.

>> No.4797015

>>4796968
One of the first levels, if not first, I've seen from doom 2. Also probably first with music coming out from pc in a loooong time. It is very long story and that was in 2001 afair.

>> No.4797016

>>4797012
90s video game ads often did that. Remember the Yoshi's island commercial with the fat guy eating until he explodes?

>> No.4797019

Many reasons to build on the DVP, including adding custom objects based on the DVP ones, or adding new voxel objects to the mod, and fill up the rest using the ones from the DVP. Also to make a revised version with better accuracy, and maybe including monsters (the project has not been updated in years)

>> No.4797020

>>4797014
Playing with crippled mouse in 2018? Why giving shit advice. And no, even that mouse fix hack barely helps.

>> No.4797026

>>4797012
I mean... is it? It's a guy soaking in a bath of blood, and the multiplayer mode is called "Bloodbath". And it's next to a bunch of screenshots and info about the game itself.

>> No.4797035

>>4796852
build a sector toilet to demonstrate your experience

>> No.4797036
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new o of destruction

>> No.4797042
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>>4796882
Shame. What did the tits look like?

>> No.4797050

>>4795647
First level is hardest in game, difficulty curve is reversed as levels go. Crypt/temple and haunted house were best levels.

>> No.4797051

>>4797036
Show more? Also whats up with lighting?

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>> No.4797057

>>4797042
https://twitter.com/DanielWienerson/status/979872550296563713
>>4797052
That's rad, anon.

>> No.4797061

>>4797057
Original was from here, was way too big to post

http://vidyart.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=351936

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>>4797051
dynamic lights

>> No.4797072

>>4797057
boner no

>> No.4797074

>>4797068
Too dark for my taste.

>> No.4797075
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4797075

what's the difference between summonfriend and summonmbf

>> No.4797082

>>4797036
What the hell is that ZIMMER texture supposed to be anyways? Looks like a thumbprint

>> No.4797090
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>>4797072
boner yes

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>>4797057
quad truk arrive

>> No.4797095

>>4796475
No you're not, but they're Predator AND Aliens.

>> No.4797110

>>4796967

it seems that no

>> No.4797117

>>4797016
Nintendo, famously jealous of its IP, shamelessly rips off a gag from a Monty Python skit, in a completely inappropriate context.

>>4796993
getting rid of posterboarding is the last frontier of making Doom look 3d

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4797120

Remember kids, Dark Forces is the best Doom "clone"

>> No.4797123

>>4796968
I don't know why people dislike this map so much and keep saying they quit playthroughs on it, unless it's the same person every time.

>> No.4797129

>>4797123
I can't put my finger on why I don't like it, I just don't.
75% of the time I play through Doom 2, this is the point where I usually stop.

>> No.4797131

>>4797090
Be honest /doom/, would you fuck a Shalrath?

>> No.4797142

>>4797120
I hate how Star Wars nucanon turned those guys into low level mooks.

>> No.4797143

>>4797123
I don't see what's so bad about it, I see it as average as 99% of other maps in both official games and popular fanmade megawads, it's just another one of the bunch.

>> No.4797145

>>4797123
I quit at the pit.
it's like the in-game embodiment of mom telling you to turn off the computer because you've been playing for too long.

>> No.4797147

>>4797131
only if I explode when cumming

>> No.4797149

>>4797131
lol no

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>>4797142
They're security droids based on the look, not Dark Troopers.

>> No.4797154

>>4797150
I actually meant the Commander guys, though then again since it's mobile shit it doesn't really matter that much.

I was more peeved with how Rebels handled the Death Troopers, anyways.

>> No.4797156

>>4797120
Can one enjoy it if they don't like star wars?

>> No.4797157
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>>4797156
It's Doom, but with levels designed to use jump and crouch. If you don't mind the star Wars aesthetic and music, yes.

>> No.4797158

>>4797149
this anon double gay

>> No.4797159
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4797159

it spins

>> No.4797161

>>4797149
wrong answer.

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>> No.4797179

>>4797165
What even are these? Doom II: ZDoom on Earth?

>> No.4797184
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4797184

>>4797179 (Me)
Actually scratch that--not enough detail.

>> No.4797216

>>4797178
There's always room for Jell-O.

>> No.4797217

>>4797179

some dude is making low res pbr textures

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>>4797131
Would I?!

>> No.4797236

>>4797159
:0

>> No.4797238

>>4797145
Why does everyone hate The Pit so much? Other than being obnoxiously hard on a pistol start, it's not a bad level.

>> No.4797240

a potentially dumb sounding question, but, decorate wise, is
>XXXX AA 1
the same as
>XXXX A 2
?

>> No.4797241

>>4797240
forgot to add
>XXXX A 1
>XXXX A 1
to my examples.

>> No.4797252

>>4797240
>>4797241

Yes.

>> No.4797262

>>4797252
thanks!

>> No.4797306

>>4794896
I know right

the gzdoom 2016 has barely any frame rate drops

>> No.4797420

>>4797216
even in Hell-O?

>> No.4797426

whats the best way to archive my doom files in case windows 10 deletes my files?

>> No.4797432

>>4797426
external hard drive?

>> No.4797458

>>4797240
Yes, unless you declare an action function on the same line. Then AA would call it twice, but A 2 only once.

>> No.4797471

>>4796430
Is Delirious Dan considered retro?

I find it's use of putting one monster per single complex room much better than Mood's "stuff 300 monsters in a big boxy room and call it a day".
Also throwing bowling balls has never been so much fun.

>> No.4797505
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>>4797238
There's that REALLY mean ambush trap where you grab the rocket launcher and is immediately beset on with machineguns and shotguns front and back, with no cover, and if you didn't know about it, chances are extremely good that you just dusted on the spot.
I'm thinking some people are probably upset about that.

Another map people hate, but which I like, is The Chasm.

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>>4795273
Tried to make use of the shotgun sprites, wish they were a little bigger.

>> No.4797545

>>4797238
it's not a very enticing first glance
it drags on for too long
it's contrived and ugly
boring instances of go here, activate switch, run before platform rises back up
enemy placement is nonsensical

it's an objectively terrible map from my personal point of view
it just checks every wrong box, like every single one

>> No.4797550

>>4796967
Fuck, I remember renting that game a long fucking time ago. If I remember right there are two characters you can choose from at the start. I could never remember the game's name.

>> No.4797576

>>4794632
Old school FPS also had a variety of settings and cool protagonists, which is why they can work for crossover material

>> No.4797596

>>4797545
>it's an objectively terrible map from my personal point of view
Oxymoron.

>> No.4797602

>>4797545
>it drags on for too long
You must hate most wads then, The Pit is nothing.

>> No.4797603

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkfHco2HV4w

>> No.4797608

>>4797576
I just want to point out, older fps games used the most generic tropes imaginable for their settings and characters. Before people get pissy, my all time favorite game is DooM. My favorite genre is sprite-like shooters. Facts are facts, they used the most distilled of plot/setting/character/etc that were tried and true because it was the least amount of effort with the most guaranteed easy fanbase. There was also less chance of being compared to another game if you did so.

DooM - in space and hell
DooM 2 - on Earth (destroyed) and hell
Blood - in cult like locations and cemeteries
Shadow Warrior - in cultural appropriated asia
Duke - Alien overrun big cities (They Live)
Hexen - medieval high fantasy
Heretic - LOTR plus undead
Powerslave - Egyptian
Strife - medieval sci-fi
Wolfenstein - Nazis
Half Life - Science facility (for 95% of the game)
Turok - Dinos
Quake - Dimension traveling


Don't get me wrong. Some games overlapped what was already out, but it was still a core concept with a slight twist or just that core concept cranked to 11. Even Unreal 98 which was made fun of for copying other games out there, was just a core concept with a twist. Honestly that is what made a game like Strife stand out, but more specific Deus Ex and System Shock stand out. It was a core concept with mechanics that made it more than a fps, which most of the games I listed don't do anything close to diverging from FPS with distilled plot/character/motive

>> No.4797614

>>4797608
Plenty of games took inspiration from other media, by mixing ideas and putting in some creativity, which is why Doom's portrayal of hell was interesting enough to be iconic.
Nowadays, taking inspiration from other media means "using games as an alternative for films, to tell a really bland story":

>> No.4797620

>>4797608
Also, Turok was based off a comic series.

>> No.4797654

>>4797603
Nice, jiggle pixels

>> No.4797697
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what are some other games i can play online RIGHT NOW instead of DOOM or QUAKE?

>> No.4797701

>>4797697
Unreal!

>> No.4797707

>>4796967
oh yeah, it was made with the turok 2 engine, that didn't save it, it has abysmal frame rate drops and somehow looks worse than turok 2

>> No.4797708

>>4797701
>need a CD
anywhere i can get a crack?

>> No.4797718

>>4796967
>armorines wad when

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>>4797708
>he missed the giveaway
>he missed BOTH giveaways

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>>4797723
i got the giveaway but since i already have that shit installed

>> No.4797745

>>4797708
It was literally free on both Steam and GOG just this week

>> No.4797778

I'm the anon who asked about music that would make amazing Doom maps, and I compiled a list of 32 names from other anons, and myself.
>Damnation For The Weak
>Puritania
>The Well of Souls
>The Sorcerer's Pledge
>Demon's Gate
>Down In A Hole
>Heaven Beside You
>Would (or Wood)
>Hollow
>Agony of the Damned
>Skeletons of Society
>Dam That River
>Surfacing
>Mouth For War
>Blackened
>All Guns Blazing
>Grave Within A Grave
>Judgment Night
>We Have Explosive
>Scream Aim Fire
>The Pretty Things Are Going To Hell
>Baptized in Filth
>Soul Forge
>Battalions of Fear
>Welcome to Death
>Sacred Worlds
>Fields of Sorrow
>Rising Force
>Holy Diver
>Rainbow in the Dark
>Damage Incorporated
>Madhouse

>> No.4797820

>>4797778
Though an album rather than song title, I think "Hypermagic Mountain" would be a cool level name

>> No.4797830

>>4797778
What about like cartoon song names for levels?

>> No.4797934

Is Hexen 2 good? I've nearly finished the first one and I want more after it's done.

>> No.4797938

How would I got about playing Shadow Warrior in a relatively modern way? Don't really wanna use DosBox

>> No.4797948

>>4797938
Dunno how it is but Devolver re-released the game as Shadow Warrior Redux. Can't recall if there's a source port

>> No.4797956

>>4797948
>10 US Shekels

Hmm.

>> No.4797960

Skaarj on Unreal difficulty are really fun and rewarding enemies to fight. I wish more games had monsters that behaved like that.

Tentacles on the other hand are ugly, boring and unfun.

>> No.4797992

>>4797938
>>4797956
>pirate it from gogworld
Hmmm.

>> No.4798006

>>4797992
Anon, Piracy is illegal.

>> No.4798008

has anyone here ever made their own personal modification of a mod?

>> No.4798015

>>4798006
just say you borrowed the GOG installer from a friend

>> No.4798021

>>4797608
He didn't say they had 100% original settings, he just said they had a variety of settings. Of course they'd all been done before, but they're more interesting than military shooter #9001.

>> No.4798038

>>4798006
Good thing we totally don't have a pastebin full of pirated files!

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>>4798038
>doom is freely available
>no /vr/ server

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So I talked to a friend last night about adding Quake 3 movement to Half Life 1. He gave me a modified version of pm_shared.c (I forget which lines are the ones with the new code from Q3 but it's definitely in there). Problem is I don't know the first thing about coding, but I really want to mod HL1 with Q3 style movement.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware /halflife/blob/master/pm_shared/pm_shared.c#L1

I got Visual Studio installed and the modified source code opened but I have no idea what to do with it or how to compile it into a dll. Help a fellow anon out?

>> No.4798076

>>4798050
You could always make one. It's dead simple.

>> No.4798083

>>4798076
any guides?

>> No.4798086

Any doom/gzdoom/quake1-3/eduke/whatever mods that are basically horde mode similar to killing floor or nazi zombies?

>> No.4798095

>>4798083
open doomseeker
click the "make server" option
pick what wads you want
done

>> No.4798102

>>4798083
https://allfearthesentinel.net

>> No.4798104

>>4798008
Some guy here did something to smooth doom, I believe.

>> No.4798160

>>4797960
Tentacles just aren't used right. They should be used in tandem with other monsters more, but usually you just fine one at the mouth of a cave or something, alone.

>> No.4798185
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4798185

For those sick of seeing my Half Life/Doom mod updates here, I'm gonna be moving my progress stuff to a dev blog. Feel free to follow, ask questions, make suggestions, etc etc.

https://crowbardeepinthedead.tumblr.com/

>> No.4798219
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>>4798185
Will do, I look forward to seeing what comes of this

>> No.4798221

>>4797992
What's gogworld?

>> No.4798226

>>4798221
wrong name but its goodolddownloads, dont know where i got world from. its all the GOG installers in one place

>> No.4798239

>>4797608
>blood
Weird west is pretty underused though.

>> No.4798241
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>>4798226
I love you.

>> No.4798268

Hitscan is gay.

>> No.4798273 [DELETED] 
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What do you think about Hellbound?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Tl0Dg3Lyg

>> No.4798274 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
>Doom/Duke Nukem Hybrid
>It's none of those
Every time.

>> No.4798278 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
it has theoretical potential, but it needs a lot of polish and is just an arena survival shooter right now
at best it superficially resembles what it claims to be

>> No.4798279 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
>title is literally the doom font, is played completely straight
>HUD mugshot
>wave shooter
>ridiculous screen shake
>character’s name is Hellgore
>trailer rips off Dusk
>is not retro

>> No.4798293 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
It's shit. The megawad is way better.

>> No.4798305 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
>le 90's retro marketing
>no level design

imagine my shock

>> No.4798314 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
Looks like it's basically slaughter map: the game. So it's shit already just like that Devil Daggers shovelware.

>> No.4798325 [DELETED] 

>>4798278
>>4798305
That's only the survival mode, they are doing the story mode too.

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>>4798241
>tfw desktop is full of GOG installers

>> No.4798327

>>4798325
>>4798314
>>4798305
>>4798293
>>4798279
Speaking of wave/survival modes. Are there any other doom mods with that because I'm craving that right now

>> No.4798329

>>4798327
Stronghold

>> No.4798330 [DELETED] 

>>4798273
Until they have actual level design, I don't care.

>> No.4798338

>>4798327
Try the invasion mode from Skulltag.

>> No.4798340

>>4798338
Any good maps?

>> No.4798341

>>4798086
stronghold? reelism?

>> No.4798348

>>4798338
Delta Invasion and Armaggeddon 2 are the major Invasion mapsets.

>> No.4798349

>>4798327
Reelism?

>> No.4798350

>>4798340
Armaggedon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv590lvq2YQ

Complex Invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnqj5QFxtBg

Or you can try Invasion Simulator which converts any map in an invasion one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuUdKYFytjs

>> No.4798398

>>4798054
Bumping this for help.

>> No.4798419

>>4797602
most wads aren't the pit, so no

>> No.4798429
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4798429

What is with the way arenas/slaughterfests kind of creep in as a way of taking over levels? Some love them, others hate them, some only like them if they're expecting them.
I've noticed too that some modern "retro inspired" games seem to think it's just lots of slaughter arenas, Doom 4 did this in it's later stages, the anon who posted the Hellbound trailer it's in there, Serious Sam does it too.

My best doom experiences are in things like Episode 1/2 of Doom 1, great experiences in those battles and none are arenas. Computers at the time couldn't even handle slaughter maps.

To use my own map as a frame of reference, I have "large fights in big areas" but am trying to see where the line goes from that to "slaughter". Of course bigger fights are a way to increase challenge but I don't want the player to think it's become a meat grinder.

I've just finished Suspended in Dusk for research, there is no slaughter in that. About to start Ancient Aliens soon for more research.

Penny for your thoughts?

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>>4798429
easier to make a space and let enemies repawn in it than take time and effort to consider proper enemy, item and object placement

>> No.4798439

>>4798435
Some arenas are like that, but others have layers to them and monsters in certain areas being their own danger/turrets.
Memes aside think of Plutonia putting chaingunners getting revived by viles, or distant arachnotrons putting pressure on players in areas they have to run through.

>> No.4798443

>>4798439
yeah some have layers, shit like D44M doesnt and just uses it as a cop out and they use it for most of the game

>> No.4798445

>>4798185
I like the mod but the lack of autoreloading kills me.
also would a weapon select menu be doable in gzdoom?

>> No.4798451

>>4798443
I think it was more a limitation they had to go for with consoles in mind.

>> No.4798456

>>4798451
they should have scaled back the graphics then or just made it for PC then gave consoles shittier ports

>> No.4798462

>>4798445
I don't know about any of that, this is made in Goldsrc

>> No.4798464

>>4798456
the game's pretty well optimized, I don't think it's a scaling issue. maybe the AI was just too heavy for consoles to handle so they reduced the number of enemies onscreen at any given time. shitty, but understandable.
I would've gladly took a shittier console port and a superior PC version with mod tools any day though.

>> No.4798467

>>4798462
oh shit haha, sorry thought you were lambda guy
im still checking out your mod, not too many for HL coming out these past couple years

>> No.4798469

>>4798451
>>4798456
>>4798464
>consoles shit things up, more at 11

I remember when console ports used to be their own thing, rather than all of us getting more or less the same product across all platforms.

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>>4798469
>that one game on console that gets more shit than the PC version/better than the PC version

>> No.4798474

>>4798429
>but am trying to see where the line goes from that to "slaughter".
you will never get a consistent line
some people consider the later levels of scythe to be slaughter

if there's a whole bunch of enemies and the player ends up dying, they'll call it slaughter
just go ahead and follow the line of dramatic escalation, an ending without a whole bunch of enemies coming at you is gonna be pretty disappointing in doom

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4798516

Does anyone actually fight these guys with anything but the shrinker?

This weapon feels very OP. Im getting some guilt.

>> No.4798520

>>4798348
I liked Armageddon 1 more, sadly I can't find it anywhere anymore because cutman axed everything his site had pre-2014 or something.

>> No.4798535

>>4798516
I never get the Shrinker to work on them, it just kind of doesn't register properly or something. Are you playing with a sourceport?

Otherwise I usually shrink the fat commanders.

>> No.4798549

>>4798516
cute

>> No.4798573

has anyone tried legendoomlite with meta doom?

>> No.4798589

>>4798573
nevermind, it does

>> No.4798635

how's doom's deathmatch for someone who has never played it?

>> No.4798665

>>4798635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbg7jzarrQU

>> No.4798667

>>4798535
Yeah eduke32. I guess it doesn't work on the original DOS or is much harder?

It can take a few shots. But why would you kill it with anything else? 13 rockets or 30 mini devastators rockets or 2 shrink shots? No brainer.

>> No.4798697

>>4798665
Where does the original play again?

>> No.4798734

>>4798667
I've never scored a hit with the shrinker on the battle lords, so yes, I would use rockets or bombs.

>> No.4798753

ID soft had to know about rocket jumping before they released quake right?
There's so much stiff you can skip by rocket jumping.

>> No.4798779

https://youtu.be/iyI-jdvvb0g

>> No.4798781

>>4798753
>ID soft had to know about rocket jumping before they released quake right?
Yes, Romero said Mt Erebus' secret exit was made with getting the invincibility and blasting yourself with a rocket to reach it in mind.

>> No.4798793

>>4798239
seconding this. i mean it's weird west, ON TOP of macabre horror gothic theme. i haven't seen any game like blood since.

>> No.4798796

>>4798793
Haven't played it but there's a PS2 game called Darkwatch where you play as a vampire cowboy.

>> No.4798801

>>4798793
Any game would be the most generic cliché shit when simplified to the way the original post did.

>> No.4798806

>>4798021
that and they even bring up memorable weapons, enemies or even props
they tried to do a little more with these ideas

>> No.4798831
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Show me the best wad in the world, or I'll eat your souls.

>> No.4798836

>>4798831
wow.wad

>> No.4798838

>>4798831

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/a-c/best

>> No.4798839

>>4798831
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/the_best

>> No.4798850

>>4798473

If you're talking about the Sega Saturn version, then yes.

>> No.4798859
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I forgot how terrifying these pinkies could be.

>> No.4798873 [SPOILER] 
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>>4798831

>> No.4798876

>>4798859
H-HAYAI

>> No.4798887
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>>4798831
You can eat my sawn-off shotgun.

>> No.4798894

>>4798887
hello xaser

>> No.4798930
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4798930

just played some project msx with UAC Ultra, that was a lot of fun. Project MSX works pretty well with techbase/mars maps, I think more than hell maps.

Archviles suck dick even more in msx though. it's fucking annoying.

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>> No.4798937

>>4798859
Reminds me of rocket power gang doing some hockey coordination

>> No.4798941

>>4798937
>the doomguy totally beefs it

>> No.4798947

>>4798941
>woogidy rockety woo

>> No.4798978

>>4798831

300 minutes of /vr/

>> No.4799006

>>4797778
no one else notice that "Well of Souls" is literally the name of Plutonia MAP02?

>> No.4799072

>>4798850
i really hope that Kaiser managed to crack that code once and for all, mainly now that Saturn was cracked and people somewhat got riled up to play Powerslave, all thanks to the DF retro video

>> No.4799078

>>4799006

>/doom/ EXPOSED

>> No.4799081

>>4795191
Poopfist - Cemetery Rape

>> No.4799085

>>4795191

"despacito"

(a corridor full of chaingunners and archviles)

>> No.4799089

>>4799085
so basically plutonia

>> No.4799096

>>4795191
al stewart - year of the caco

>> No.4799102

>>4795191
Happiness is a Warm Gun

>> No.4799103

>>4799089
Plutonia had a lot more than hallways with chaingunners and archviles.

It also had rooms of revenants.

>> No.4799104

>>4798831
UAC Ultra. My soul is safe.

>> No.4799108

>>4795191
Back To Saturn X Radio Report

>> No.4799109

>>4798831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sd_RhJxZpY

>> No.4799138
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4799138

I love this half life weapon mod
>>4795191
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=h2dJ-JUzhVs

>> No.4799139
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4799139

What were the best secrets in Descent?

>> No.4799146

what's the best quake 2 port for sp right now?

>> No.4799167

What are some good WADs where you have to get out of a place where some unstoppable foe is chasing you? Something like the Waterwraith from Pikmin 2 or the Ultimate Chimera from Mother 3. I've already played the three Ghoul's Forest WADs.

>> No.4799184

>>4799167
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=35879

SUPER natural might be up your alley.

Its a bit more on the survival horror/walking simulator side though.

>> No.4799192

>>4799138
I don't understand.
Why would you want to replicate HLs terrible gunplay?

>> No.4799227

>>4799184
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>> No.4799230

>>4798054
are you the guy remaking the doom maps?

>> No.4799273

>>4799230
If you're referring to the HL mod, no, it's not.

>> No.4799287
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4799287

>>4798831
*kills you*

>> No.4799339

>>4799230
Nah, I just want quake movement in half life

>> No.4799347
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4799347

How would you make a "storm"?

Look at the bottom of the pic, the waves smashing near the light house.
Ways I can envision.

>"waves" made with rapidly moving up and down sectors moving in a rhythm, decided on a script that activates randomly so it looks more organic
>"wave blast" sprites which are like huge rocket impacts, but painted in water colours, think the "mother in law" impacts from DoomRLA
>heavy and wind rain is easy, but the "water blasting in from the side" can be done with the cloud sprites on R667 moving by quickly

Anybody got any other thoughts?

>> No.4799403

Is System Shock considered a classic FPS?
Because the source code recently got released and I'd really love to see a mod community for that flourish.

>> No.4799408

>>4799403
it was released mid 90s, don't see why it would not be classified as such

>> No.4799415

>>4799146
kmquake2

>> No.4799421

>>4799403
more on the gameplay side I mean. It's not the typical more action oriented game like doom or quake.
People call it a horror game but I can't think of it as that becauseof the funky fresh midi soundtrack.

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>> No.4799436

>>4798859
That's some silly shit but I want to play it. What mod(s)?

>> No.4799454
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4799454

where does the cyberdemon store his rockets

>> No.4799462

>>4799436
Combined_Arms, fairly big update on the way.

>> No.4799465

>>4799454
in the balls

>> No.4799479

>>4795753
>>4796267
I started listening to some Candlemass out of curiosity after seeing these posts. Good shit my dudes.

>> No.4799487

>>4799415

thanks, well, I already downloaded yamagi, the music and some 32 bit texture pack, just completed the first primary objective

>> No.4799491

>>4799454

portable teleporter

>> No.4799496

>>4799462
I just downloaded it and tried it out. My shotgun doesn't look like yours, is that a custom skin pack? I like that shotgun in yours a lot. The shotgun alt fire that fires a bunch of shells at once with huge recoil is pretty fun. That baseball bat thing is kinda dumb to me though.

>> No.4799502

Favorite horror WADs? Unloved for me, probably.

>> No.4799506

>>4799454
The cables in his stomach always made me think that there are more cybernetics to him than just an arm and a leg: most of his inner body has been mechanized. The rockets are stored in his torso and then transported through the arm into the cannon when firing. Which is also probably why he explodes so violently when you kill him, all the rockets stored inside him detonate.

>> No.4799508

>>4799496
>I just downloaded it and tried it out. My shotgun doesn't look like yours, is that a custom skin pack?
Not him, but
>fairly big update on the way

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>>4799502
Looked it up and apparently the creator re-made it on UE4. It looks horrible in my opinion, but it has mostly good reviews.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/321270/UNLOVED/

>> No.4799560

>>4799526
It's not a remake, it's a whole different kind of game. Pretty shitty too. I wish he'd finished Unloved 2 instead.

>> No.4799567

>>4799415

well, this seems to be better

>> No.4799581

>>4799560
you can finish it for yourself babe :3

>> No.4799645

>>4799415

returned to yamagi, music was not playing

>> No.4799664

is it okay to be young and like games that are older than myself
I'm 19, which is still younger than half life

>> No.4799672

>>4799664
no. the proper authorities have been alerted and are on their way to confiscate your GOG collection

>> No.4799676

>>4799672
jokes on you I've got physical copies of wolf 3d, and quake

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>>4799664
I'm the same age as you and I can't understand people who think like this. You're a total dipshit if you think you can't enjoy a game because of its age. That's like saying you can't watch a movie or read a book because it's older than you. It just doesn't make sense to me.

>> No.4799690

>>4799664
Motherfucker I'm the same age as Doom itself and I enjoy Atari 2600 games.
just disregard age and enjoy video game

>> No.4799713

>>4799676
You'll have to turn in that Quake copy to me to make up for your sin.

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>>4799690
>enjoy Atari 2600 games

>> No.4799729

>>4799715
Sometimes I like a quick game of Pressure Cooker or Yar's Revenge. What about it?

>> No.4799747

>>4799567
It's a random generated endless horde fighting game that plays not great and jank
It really misses why people liked and didn't like about Unloved

Unless you enjoyed the slaughter at the end I guess

>> No.4799749

>>4799664
If stuff like that was true, you wouldn't be allowed to be a Star Wars fan

>> No.4799750

>>4799664
oh my god quit being to pathetically self-conscious and just enjoy shit

>> No.4799797

what are the essential heretic & hexen mods for someone who just finished both? those platforming sections with instant death falls in hexen were ass but it was still a good game though

>> No.4799807

>>4799747

wrong quote

>> No.4799842

>>4799454
cyberspace!

>> No.4799846

>>4795191
any and every Powerwolf song

>> No.4799847

>>4799006
of course. but i didn't read the list.

>> No.4799856

>>4799842
>you'll never fist his cyberspace
why die

>> No.4799857

are doom enemies intelligent species?

>> No.4799863

>>4799857
Well they fight a lot

>> No.4799869

>>4799857
lol no
Even the Archvile does stupid shit.

>> No.4799873

>>4795847
I thought we were getting Olivia/D44M story

>> No.4799883

>>4799287
*teleports behind you*
Heh.. I dont think so kiddo

>> No.4799886

>>4795858
Wasn't the comic made by someone who thought doom was dumb shit and wanted to take the piss out of it?
>>4796968
Really meh. It's not quite aggravating but it is not good
>>4799664
I just wish I grew up when they were released to experience it.

>> No.4799908

>>4799664
Funny thing is, as someone at the same age as you, i got into Doom like 5 years ago, after watching the Doom movie on tv and getting interested in the series, with the first time playing it being some flash port of the shareware version
Became a Doom autist since

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>>4799454

>> No.4799956

>>4799664
I'm born like a week from the release of Wolf3D, yet that's a game I played in my youth and still enjoy on occasion.

>> No.4799963

>>4799886
The artist for the Doom comic also drew those Punisher cyberpunk comics, and they're about as unhinged and retarded.

>> No.4799990

>>4798887
What wad?

>> No.4799992

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2tJAMTbxPo

>> No.4799995

>>4799990
Sunder

>> No.4800090
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4800090

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100874-bifrost-single-map-with-rainbow-bridges-boom/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2tJAMTbxPo
A E S T H E T I C

>> No.4800095

>>4800090

>>4799992

>> No.4800097

>>4800090
Literally fucking two posts above you, what? >>4799992

>> No.4800109

Bump limit reached.

Screenshot saturday guy can post next thread, speaking of.

>> No.4800191

So? Where is пepeкaт?

>> No.4800198

>>4796967
I wasn't even aware of the existence of this game
I'm setting up pj64 right now

>> No.4800240

>>4799421
Dude, the maintenance level had a very nerve wracking theme and even more nerve wracking enemies. So they're not all wrong.

>> No.4800251

>>4799797
Mods? Dunno. Not many gameplay mods for these games. Brutal Heretic is a thing, as is Wrath of Cronos, but they are not essential.
Caldera map pack for Hexen looks pretty cool, though, even if it's a bit incoherent. If you like big maps, being forced to use artifacts, and missing important switch buttons , then Curse of the Gods is good. Maps are very beautiful there.

>> No.4800258

New thread in time for Screenshot Saturday

>>4800256
>>4800256
>>4800256

>> No.4800526

>>4796864
That looks more 90's if anything.

>> No.4800528

>>4799883
*telefrags you*

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