/Shmup/ thread

[Anonymous No.4779925]

Post your favourites.

[Anonymous No.4779928]

Gradius

[Anonymous No.4779929]

>>4779925
Thunderforce IV

[Anonymous No.4779932]

>>4779925
kill urself trashurefag

[Anonymous No.4779934]

rayforce forever

[Anonymous No.4779941]

>>4779932
What the fuck is wrong with you, Treasure is one of the best game developers ever

[Anonymous No.4779943]

R-Type
Thunderforce IV
Gokujou Parodius
Space Invaders '95
Ikaruga
Blazing Star
Last Resort
Fever SOS
Gunlock

[Anonymous No.4779946]

>>4779929
I love that game's soundtrack

https://youtu.be/KOzgUtumOo0

[Anonymous No.4779954]

[Anonymous No.4779961]

[Anonymous No.4779965]

[Anonymous No.4779971]

[Anonymous No.4780000]

Are arcade games released on 1990s arcade hardware in the early 2000s counted as retro? If so Ketsui if not DoDonpachi.

[Anonymous No.4780046]

there are so many shooters and I barely played any over the years, so I dont know which one should I stick with for more than a quick session

for now Im doing R-Type, man the stage with the green dots sucks, thanks the PS1 version for the stage select because I already know 1-3 like the palm of my hand
Im also doing a little bit of Gradius, but those Moais can go fuck themselves, even at low rank they manage to sneak a finger up my ass, I never made it past the tentacle thingies

[Anonymous No.4780403]

>>4779925
Demon Attack and Phoenix for the 2600, unless Space Invaders style shooters don't count.
Beamrider and He Man for the Intellivision.
Life Force and Gyruss for the NES.
R-Type is the only shooter I played for Master System and it was a good port, so that I guess.
Soldier Blade and Lords of Thunder for the TurboGrafx-16.
Steel Empire and Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force for the Genesis.
Axelay and Phalanx for SNES.
Einhander for PSX. And then shmups pretty much died.

[Anonymous No.4780407]

>>4780403
Jamestown on Steam is pretty good too, for a more recent game of that style.

[Anonymous No.4780419]

Gun.Smoke
Firepower 2000
Gun-Nac
Raiden Trad
Twin Cobra
Fire Shark
Gradius

[Anonymous No.4780592]

They are called SPACESHIP GAMES.

[Anonymous No.4780809]

>>4780000
I think so. Since the hardware is pre2000, you're following the logic and spirit of the board.

My favorites: Darius Gaiden, Galactic Attack, Metal Black, Gleylancer, Salamander, the Parodius series (Sexy is best), Gun Nac, Gunbird, Blazing Lazers, Perfect Cherry Blossom

[Anonymous No.4781017]

I know it doesn't have enough content but Progear still looks gorgeous

[Anonymous No.4781019]

>>4780592
>1944
>spaceship

[Anonymous No.4781020]

>>4779934
I've never played Rayforce but that's a real beautiful game there. I'm interested.

[Anonymous No.4781092]

>>4781020
It's also known as Galactic Attack or Later Section. So whichever of those name you see, go for it and enjoy yourself.

[Anonymous No.4781141]

>>4781092
In arcades was known as GunLock too. I put it on my list above.

[Anonymous No.4781186]

>>4780403
>Einhander for PSX. And then shmups pretty much died.
Cave had barely even started at that time.

[Anonymous No.4782347]

>>4781186
>Cave
Exactly, once cave got started they basically killed the genre.

[Anonymous No.4782486]

>Me: I've been playing this really great shoot em up lately, do like those?

>Friend: My parents didn't let me play violent video games when I was a kid, so I never got into them.

[Anonymous No.4782492]

>>4780046
so unless I killed the fourth boss in a fluke the answer this whole time was to tail his ass with my own force pod in my ass
fuck

[Anonymous No.4782493]

>>4782492
I've tried to get into R-type several times, but it never clicked with me.

[Anonymous No.4782496]

>>4782347
>>4781186
lucky i got to play einhander than, if only shmups kept getting made / sold after cave, they're a fun genre that's harmless even to the whatever the game sjw crowd have been saying.

[Anonymous No.4782504]

>>4782493
R-Type kinda ticks the same boxes that glued me to the GnG games, memorization based stages (for the most part) that wont let you progress if you suck no matter how many credits you feed, coupled with some cool art direction

I wish it had a better soundtrack, GnG had some really strong tunes like the destroyed village in the second game

[Anonymous No.4782525]

Help me, /shmup/. I wish to play shooters in which you don't pilot some sort of space ship, air craft, or cute girl. Please recommend some to me.

[Anonymous No.4782534]

>>4782525
dragon breed and cyvern

[Anonymous No.4782574]

>>4779934
looks dope. is it good for saturn?

[Anonymous No.4782594]

>>4782525
Wings of Wor for the dickboss(pic related) and other terrifying bosses.

Elemental Master for the awesome music.

Both Genesis/MD.

[Anonymous No.4782602]

AXELAY
R-Type Delta
Einhander
Thunder Force III
X Multiply
Zanac Neo
GRIND Stormer
Air Buster
Strikers 1945

[Anonymous No.4782605]

I know people here will get mad because Ikaruga+nintendo, but whatever, I'm hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5oBq9iIck

[Anonymous No.4782646]

>>4782594
The Genesis absolutely destroys the SNES when it comes to shmups.

[Anonymous No.4782664]

>>4782646
I dunno if "absolutely destroys", but it was more suited for the genre, yes.
Still, SNES has a lot of great shmups, that's hard to deny.

[Anonymous No.4783385]

>>4782347
Cave are the best thing that ever happened to shmups.

[Anonymous No.4783389]

>>4782525
Cho Aniki.

[Anonymous No.4783390]

>>4782525
try Astebreed

https://youtu.be/JWPMjefjf0o

[Anonymous No.4783420]

>>4783390
Not retro.
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.4783534]

>>4782525

Sengoku Blade

[Anonymous No.4783538]

Zanac Neo will always be my favorite shmup.

[Anonymous No.4783756]

>>4779928
Speaking of gradius, I just tried Gaiden out. Now I'm not saying it's bad, but I just don't see why everyone gushes over it. I mean, the ships and environmental aspects of the levels are cool, but the customization in 3 is still superior

[Anonymous No.4785120]

Pocky and Rocky
Soldier Blade

[Anonymous No.4786023]

>>4783756
I think the Gradius games all follow the formula of the first one too much. Granted the first one iis the only one that interested me enough to 1CC.

[Anonymous No.4786032]

>>4783756
Gaiden is the most stylish game in the series. Also helps that its first loop is really easy.
It does suffer a bit from style over substance though, especially when it becomes difficult to tell scenery from actual obstacles.

[Anonymous No.4786078]

>>4786032
Yeah, that's what it felt like to me. Style over substance. I enjoyed parts of it, but nothing ever really wowed me. You're right about scenery VS obstacles too, sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. I think the easiest out of all games to 1 credit, at least first loop, is Salamander 2. It was so short and mild that just about anyone could do it with a bit of practice.
>>4786023
Well, the later games like 4 felt like they went on forever, so 1ccing them felt like a grind. The beauty of 1 is that it's short but challenging.

[Anonymous No.4786201]

Why did Cave go from making slick games like DonPachi to making unintelligible weeb nonsense?

[Anonymous No.4786204]

>>4786201
because people won't buy body pillows with spaceships and bees on them

[Anonymous No.4786210]

>>4786204

Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous No.4786214]

>>4786201
I don't know but i'm glad they did.

[Anonymous No.4786216]

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category/Game/shoot-em-up

[Anonymous No.4786220]

Too much consolefaggotry ITT
this might be bad >>4780403
but this is a new low for /vr/ >>4780419
>Raiden Trad
Why do I even bother to post here

[Anonymous No.4786236]

>>4779925
Honest question, I really want to play this but never worked with Saturn emulation before.

Can this game be played smoothly with some emulator out there or is there a way for my sega saturn to read burned disk?

[Anonymous No.4786249]

>>4786236
Google pseudosaturn. If you have an Action Replay use that to install pseudosaturn if not buy one of the chinese pseudosaturn carts off ebay.

[Anonymous No.4786256]

>>4786220
Just accept some people have no interest playing games they didn't play as a kid and move on. Plenty of people here have good taste. Lead by example.

[Anonymous No.4786261]

>>4786236

Mednafen emulates the Saturn version pretty much perfectly, and MAME emulates the arcade version pretty well.

[Anonymous No.4786270]

>>4786256
>Just accept some people have no interest playing games they didn't play as a kid and move on.
What about playing a better version of what you played as a kid? You know, ARCADE Raiden?

[Anonymous No.4786281]

>>4786220
Post your WRs

[Anonymous No.4786291]

>>4786270
If they haven't figured that out by now they aren't going to.

[Anonymous No.4786293]

Who is your favorite shmup developer and why is it Psikyo?

[Anonymous No.4786297]

>>4786293
Psikyo is up there but it has to be Toaplan for me. Their catalogue is unmatched for my personal tastes.

[Anonymous No.4786312]

>>4786281
As if you need a WR to figure out that Raiden Trad is an atrocious port. And it's not like the original is hard to play or anything, what's the excuse other than sheer ignorance.

[Anonymous No.4786323]

>>4786312
I wasn't commenting on Raiden Trad, I mean... if you're an elitist arcade player, you ought to have at least a WR, right?
I don't think anyone with that attitude wouldn't have one.

[Anonymous No.4786329]

>>4786323
>elitist
Has this board gone mad? So suddenly I'm elitist for finding incredible that one lists a shitty port of a game as one of his favorites while the original version is s readily available
Anyway, fuck off with the stereotypes

[Anonymous No.4786334]

>>4786329
No, not because of that, because of the use of the /v/-tier "consolebabbies" derogatory.
So, are you going to post your WRs or not? Show us that you're the man and you live up to your 'tude.

[Anonymous No.4786345]

>>4786334
Well, this is a genre that shines on the arcades. It's quite obvious that made for console (and for PC) shooters, while not bad, are notoriously inferior compared to the arcades on average.
What I sense here is that A LOT of people don't even try arcade shooters. I'm not calling them bad players, they just refuse to expand and try the better ones. Otherwise not as many made for home shooters would be even mentioned ITT.
Raiden Trad is the most extreme example I've come across of this growing trend.
The rest of your posts is just your imagination, not every arcade lover is the same elitist faggot.

[Anonymous No.4786351]

>>4786345
so no wr? bummer.

[Anonymous No.4786361]

>>4786351
Nope, I've never focused too much on the same game, I prefer trying many arcades.
Which is what these guys don't do, they stick with the same safe territory for them.

Anyway, imagine if people made threads of "best FPS" and you constantly saw stuff like "the Saturn port of Quake" as the best, while ignoring the original Quake.
That wouldn't be PC elitism, just common sense.

[Anonymous No.4786365]

>>4786361
Now, imagine ignoring dozens of posts that actually list arcade games and only focus in one or two posts that mention some console ports and bitch immensely about it. Now, imagine also not having a WR to back up that attitude.

[Anonymous No.4786374]

>>4786365
I don't see that many. Whatever

Would you guys say Flying Shark could be described as the best shoot 'em up? Such classic design.

[Anonymous No.4786402]

>>4786374
how can that be the best? in that year alone, capcom dropped a couple of versions of 1943 that makes flying shark look terrible.

[Anonymous No.4786403]

>>4786374
Should I play the Amiga or Atari ST port?

[Anonymous No.4786407]

>>4786402
>>4786403
Yeah, unlike you, I'm not trolling. No problem if you don't find the game appealing, maybe it's a bit too plain or slow. I just find it tight as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4786425]

>Gunbird's antagonist is called The Trump

What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4786453]

>>4786425
As in "trump card" you dumb fuck. Take your meme shit elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.4786520]

>>4786453

You seem upset.

[Anonymous No.4786556]

>>4786297
Their non shmup games are great as well. Snow Bros is one of my favourite games and I usually don't like platformers. I wonder how many of the Snow Bros developers worked with Cave after Toaplan dissolved?

[Anonymous No.4786560]

>>4786556
Sadly, this stuff isn't very well documented.

[Anonymous No.4786567]

>>4786293
They're one of the reasons why I haven't sold my DC.

[Anonymous No.4786579]

>>4786567
They were going to work with Capcom's new entry in the 194X series; I don't know what happened but that project got outsourced to Raizing instead, and didn't come out that great (and I like Raizing stuff)

[Anonymous No.4786602]

To this day I haven't 1cc'd a game outside of Gradius 3 for SNES, and maybe a few other console shmups. People tell me to treat them like a rhythm games, or say it's about execution and not memorization, but that doesn't really help.

I'm convinced some of it is luck, because no amount of practice prevents something from going wrong. There's always that odd bullet that happens to fly your way. Or you press the left just a little too hard and you move a centimeter too far. Or something else. Seriously, shmups seem like the very definition of murphy's law. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. I shit you not, I 1cc'd Salamader on my second try, and not due to skill or anything like that. It was pure dumb fucking luck, I know that. Because every playthrough after that has been a wipe due to something going wrong.

[Anonymous No.4786609]

>>4786602
>no amount of practice prevents something from going wrong.
It honestly sounds like performance anxiety. You are fucking up because you know you can't fuck up.

[Anonymous No.4786618]

>>4786609
So how do I stop that from happening? Is there anything I can take that just calms me down without fucking with my reaction time?

[Anonymous No.4786626]

>>4786618
Just relax and try to enjoy the game. Playing harder games and going back to the one you were playing normally works pretty well either.

[Anonymous No.4786630]

>>4786602
>People tell me to treat them like a rhythm games, or say it's about execution and not memorization, but that doesn't really help.
Fuck those people.
These are mostly games about optimal execution. Memorization helps but you need reflexes and stuff.
The thing is, the more you play them, the better you get to the genre and even games since you keep training your reaction times. It happened to me.

[Anonymous No.4786647]

>>4786270
>>4786291
You don't need to go out of your way to find them. Flawless versions of Raiden and Raiden 2 are on the damn Playstation.

Raiden Trad is just bad. Sluggish and the image is stretched on the SNES.

[Anonymous No.4786648]

>>4786647
Yeah, but apparently I'm an arcade elitist for pointing that out.

[Anonymous No.4786683]

>>4786648
No, you are a pseudo-arcade elitist for bitching about a few posts, when many others actually listed arcade titles.
Also you haven't posted your records.

[Anonymous No.4786689]

>>4786683
It's been mostly console shooters and ports, but OK. You seem quite upset, actually.

[Anonymous No.4786691]

>>4786689
I'm not the one getting banned for spamming and shitposting, though

[Anonymous No.4786705]

>>4786691
What do you think about Flying Shark, then?

[Anonymous No.4786719]

>s-s-s-stop pointing out terrible ports of arcade games were made for consoles, you pseud!
>o-o-only WR-holders can criticize muh shitty ports!

The absolute state of consolefags. Jelly they could never get to experience glorious arcade gaming in its prime, so they had to settle for shit.

[Anonymous No.4786727]

>>4786719
I don't get it, it's so easy to play most of these arcade classics but they just refuse and then act like this. Are people here really that stuck to only what they played back then?

[Anonymous No.4786743]

>>4786727
Hell if you own a Saturn and a PS2 you can play high quality ports of almost every retro shmup on consoles anyway. The only possible reason to defend shitty old ports is nostalgiafagging.

[Anonymous No.4786746]

>>4786727
I know right? This whole thread is full of console trash like:
>Radiant Silvergun
>Gradius
>Rayforce
>Ikaruga
>R-Type
>Gokujou Parodius
>Space Invaders '95
>Blazing Star
>Last Resort
>Fever SOS
>Sonic Wings
>Gunbird 2
>Ketsui
>DoDonpachi
>Gun.Smoke
>Twin Cobra
>Fire Shark
>Darius Gaiden
>Metal Black
>Salamander
>Sexy Parodius
>Gunbird
>Progear
>1944
>Phelios
>Dragon Breed
>Cyvern
>X Multiply
>Grind Stormer
>Air Buster
>Strikers 1945
>Sengoku Blade

Can you believe that guy had the gall to talk about Raiden Trad?

[Anonymous No.4786758]

>>4786746
I hope you're aware those were mostly posted by the same people complaining about the lack of arcades, and also some were mentioned in a pack of console shooters, heavily hinting they may be referring to a console version?
Anyway, just let it go.

[Anonymous No.4786832]

>>4786719
I see it the other way around, people who were actually alive back in the day are able to enjoy both arcade originals and console ports, while people new to retro games are more picky and always go for the arcade original so they can pose as "hardcore gamurs" online with their other teenager peers who are also into "muh hardcore arcade gaming".
And yes, if you want to be taken seriously, you should post your records with proof, otherwise you're just that, a pseud.

[Anonymous No.4786837]

>>4786719
>>/vr/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=giggle.png&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

[Anonymous No.4786838]

>>4786832
Too bad, the one you're talking about enjoys both. But c'mon, arcades are clearly superior here. Not just because of the challenge, they are straight up better made. And I'm not talking about ports either, but made for console shooters.
However, man... It's not about being picky. Can you honestly tolerate Raiden Trad, for instance? Now you can enjoy these games in their best form, why shouldn't we?

[Anonymous No.4786840]

>>4786832
With the invention of search engines anyone who doesn't go with the best version of any game they want to play is a fool or just doesn't like games..

[Anonymous No.4786841]

>>4786837

[Anonymous No.4786842]

>>4786840
This guy is just trolling us. Defending naming shitty ports as your favorites and calling others who point that out elitists is just lol

[Anonymous No.4786846]

>>4786838
It's just a bit weird how certain guys act as if they get super offended because other anons mention some console games, as if these guys were insulting their mothers or something.
The lack of talk about records, or runs, or game mechanics also make me think they're just posers. I don't know if you were aware, but within certain circles of the weeb/"gamer" spectrum, arcade gaming has founs its niche to newer generations. You'd be surprised to see how many kids are now acting as if they were some kind of arcade gurus when in fact they were never alive when arcades were big, and they only know arcades through emulation. A lot of these kids also started getting into the genre due to touhou.
>>4786840
I didn't really meant to say "console ports", but console-exclusive games. It's possible to enjoy the best of both worlds. Not all arcade games are great either.

[Anonymous No.4786849]

>>4786841
One thing is the same reaction image, but same filename too? Come on, you can do better than that. At least change the filename to dissimulate.

[Anonymous No.4786854]

>>4786846
I want to see where those kids are, for real; not doubting you, just curious. You seem to be very upset about something, though.
Dude, cut that WR scoring crap. I love Flying Shark for instance, do you expect me to loop that game hundreds of times? Score in most pre mid-90's shooters doesn't amount to much, and guess what, those are my favorites.
And also guess what, I dislike Touhou.
And yes, I enjoy made for console shooters even if it's undeniable they aren't as good. However, I sense that here some don't even see this since they don't even try the arcades.

[Anonymous No.4786857]

>>4786854
>I want to see where those kids are, for real; not doubting you, just curious.
/vg/ has some threads, infinity chan's /1cc/ board has a lot.
>You seem to be very upset about something, though.
I'm not the one yelling demanding that people ONLY talk about arcade games and stop talking consoles, though.
>Dude, cut that WR scoring crap.
Why? I'm actually encouraging you.
>And also guess what, I dislike Touhou.
Me too.
>I enjoy made for console shooters
Really? Didn't seem like it.
>I sense that here some don't even see this since they don't even try the arcades.
Just because some people (2 posters, out of a thread with 35) have mentioned certain inferior console ports, doesn't mean everyone on /vr/ has never played in arcades.

[Anonymous No.4786862]

>>4786857
>/vg/ has some threads
Okay, I see what you mean, /vg/'s threads suck and reek of weeby kids, you've got a point there. I didn't know about this infinity chan thing, though.
However, I find this trend interesting. Even if they're posers, at least they seem to be appreciating cool things for once instead of, say, F2P garbage.
>I'm not the one yelling demanding that people ONLY talk about arcade games and stop talking consoles, though.
Nah, just stating that I see a trend of people ignoring the arcades. Again, I like the made for console ones just fine.
>Why? I'm actually encouraging you.
You don't know anything about Flying Shark, do you? Or older shooters? The big scoring emphasis is a more modern thing.
>Really? Didn't seem like it.
Yeah, stuff like the Soldier series is pretty cool, and caravan shooters.

[Anonymous No.4786865]

>>4786862
>Even if they're posers, at least they seem to be appreciating cool things for once instead of, say, F2P garbage.
That's true, but at the same time they taint arcade discussion by acting way too snobbish and poseur-y. It's like, you can tell they got into it a few months ago, and they FEEL the need to tell everyone how much of a hardcork gamur who ONLY play arcade they are and how much they hate console gaming, when in fact there isn't that big of a difference and many arcade developers also did console games.
>Nah, just stating that I see a trend of people ignoring the arcades.
You just saw 2 posters (again, out of a thread with 35) who posted some arcade ports, but you started claiming that the whole /vr/ is "consoleplebs", etc, etc. Dude, the thread has more arcade games than anything else.
>You don't know anything about Flying Shark, do you?
Your fixation with this game makes me think you're just trolling (like the Dual orb 2 guy), but whatever. I don't particularly think Flying Shark is great, but it's alright, played it ages ago.
>The big scoring emphasis is a more modern thing.
wat

[Anonymous No.4786873]

>>4786865
I guess you've come across too many of these and thought I was one of them.
Do you think there are many like that lurking /vr/? Didn't seem that way to me, if anything this place is full of... Wait, better not complain.
About Flying Shark, I actually like it, but people ignore it or don't seem to thing much of it as of late. Sorry if it seemed to tired.

>wat
They weren't as built for scoring as later on. Sure, they had score, but it wasn't as emphasized.
It's why endlessly looping shooters stopped being a thing. The thing is, I play mostly those.

[Anonymous No.4786883]

>>4786873
I've seen some come and go to /vr/, but they don't stay here for long because they realize people here don't care about Touhou, even if one or two PC-98 touhous are /vr/.
>this place is full of...
This place is full of all kind of people, but many of us were actually alive back when arcades were still mainstream. That's why we don't treat arcades as some sort of mythical, ancient thing. People who actually grew up in the 80s and 90s played both arcades and consoles (and PC), we played everything we could land our hands on.
Kids nowadays have access to everything, albeit in shitty forms like emulation, but still have access to them. They have access to more games than they could play in their entire life, and that's only counting /vr/.
Some of them discover about japanese arcade culture, and cling to it, as a way to say "hey! Look at me! I'm not just some regular gamer, I'm a super gamer who is into very niche japanese arcade games only!". Most of them spend more time watching superplays than actually playing the games, too.
That's basically the difference, someone who was alive back in the day, wouldn't make such a big deal between arcades and consoles, as long as the games are good, that's enough. Yes, arcades were always perceived as better than home systems, but mostly because of graphics than performance. Most of the arcade stuff these poser kids like to pretend to like (Cave shooters, etc) are from a time when home systems had already matched these arcade 2D shooters anyway.
>They weren't as built for scoring as later on. Sure, they had score, but it wasn't as emphasized.
Ah yeah, over time scoring became more complex (or autistic, depending on how you look at it), but endless loop shooters (and arcades games in general) have score as the main incentive to keep playing.
Scoring was mainstream back then. Now it's more "emphasized", but it's also niche as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4786896]

>>4786883
>Yes, arcades were always perceived as better than home systems
Well, that's settled.
But, you see, not everyone has the same perspective on this. I'm tired of seeing arcade-bashing or ignoring, it's only getting worse as years go by.
I guess it's what happens when I don't visit these places full of weeb poser kids. But on more mainstream places, shit. All over the place, "TOP X GAMES" with 0 arcade titles and such.
It seems we come from two opposite biases. Just want to spread awareness.

[Anonymous No.4786898]

>>4786896
>arcade-bashing
Find me one example of this, use the archive if you must.

[Anonymous No.4786902]

For fucks sake shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.4786903]

>>4786898
There are dedicated anti-arcade shitposters lol

[Anonymous No.4786908]

>>4786896
>that's settled.
yes, but
>Most of the arcade stuff these poser kids like to pretend to like (Cave shooters, etc) are from a time when home systems had already matched these arcade 2D shooters anyway.
>Just want to spread awareness.
You don't need to do that on /vr/ though. People here know about arcades. Remember, we were alive back then!

[Anonymous No.4786912]

>>4786903
Show them to me on the archive.

[Anonymous No.4786924]

>>4786908
>People here know about arcades. Remember, we were alive back then!
Yeah, that Raiden Trad guy is surely aware! (Which was the thing that essentially made me write that post)
Anyway, no need to go on about this.
>>4786912
Go to the turtles in time thread, I don't participate there since I don't care for that gae but you can see what I mean. There's clearly some anti-arcade sentiments, and this happens regularly. Maybe you think they're trolls?

[Anonymous No.4786928]

>>4786924
>that Raiden Trad guy
Literally one guy. Come on, man.
This thread has more arcade games listed than anything else. You're just playing the victim card, and I'm not even sure why.

[Anonymous No.4786930]

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.4786934]

>>4786928
>>4786928
Okay
What about Omega Fighter? That's a cool game. Gun Frontier has to be up there as well.

[Anonymous No.4786935]

>>4786924
>Go to the turtles in time thread
TiT is one of the rare cases where developers improved gameplay for the console version, as well as added more content.
Stating that fact doesn't mean they're "dedicaded anti-arcade". Show me some real anti-arcade posts on the archive, like some guy claiming all arcades are shit or something like that, then I'll believe you.

[Anonymous No.4786949]

>>4786934
Personally I love Xevious. It's simple, but challenging and tests your reflexes a lot. I also like that it gets harder the better you play.
It's a shame that western people don't like it much.

[Anonymous No.4786953]

>>4786935
Eh... From that same thread
"Typing 1cc should result in an autoban, to filter all the narcissistic retards out."
"My problem isn't that they talk about that, it's the fact I've never seen anyone back up their 1cc claims."
"1cc fags are the worst
>HURR YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO HAVE AN OPINION ON ANY GAME UNLESS YOU MEMORIZE IT ENOUGH TO BEAT IT WITHOUT TAKING DAMAGE
no one thinks its impressive that you sat down and played the same game for far longer than any person without brain damage would"
"Compulsive 1CC playing is for autistic assholes."

[Anonymous No.4786954]

>>4786949
Xevious is amazing! What are your thoughts on later "Xevious-likes" by Namco such as Dragon Saber?

[Anonymous No.4786962]

>>4786953
>"My problem isn't that they talk about that, it's the fact I've never seen anyone back up their 1cc claims."
Heh, I agree with that one honestly. It's the same thing I was talking about before.
Anyway, all of those quotes are addressing the posters, not the games. They are complaining about the kind of people I told you before, the posers.
By "dedicated anti-arcade" I thought you were going to show me some shitposters going, like "all arcade games suck!" or something.

[Anonymous No.4786965]

>>4786954

Dragon Saber feels like an entirely unique concept compared to the direct rip-off that is Gardia.

[Anonymous No.4786968]

>>4786832
>I see it the other way around, people who were actually alive back in the day are able to enjoy both arcade originals and console ports,
What if they didn't have access to a good arcade? They'd have to play the crappy console version instead.

>while people new to retro games are more picky and always go for the arcade original so they can pose as "hardcore gamurs" online with their other teenager peers who are also into "muh hardcore arcade gaming".
Or, they played both versions back in the day and acknowledged the console port being a steaming pile.

>And yes, if you want to be taken seriously, you should post your records with proof, otherwise you're just that, a pseud.
But we aren't comparing scores. We're discussing objective facts about which versions are superior.

[Anonymous No.4786972]

>>4786962
Okay, I see what you mean. There's definitely more hate towards those elitists. But I've also seen some posts like "good thing that arcades died, they were quarter munchers" here. Again, probably trolls, though that's the mainstream way of thinking right now.
>>4786965
Dragon Saber is by the same developers. By "Xevious-like" I simply meant vertical shooters with two plains and two shots, one straight and one to shoot the ground.

[Anonymous No.4786976]

>>4786968
Read: >>4786846
>I didn't really meant to say "console ports", but console-exclusive games. It's possible to enjoy the best of both worlds. Not all arcade games are great either.

[Anonymous No.4786987]

>>4786972
>"good thing that arcades died, they were quarter munchers" here
Well, sometimes even arcade fans will claim some companies made certain games to be "quarter munchers", that doesn't mean they dislike the whole arcade scene, but certain games/developers. I personally don't remember seeing anyone ever saying "good thing arcades died" here on /vr/. If there was someone who said that, it must be a very lonely opinion.
As a general rule, both arcade and console gaming is liked here. This "rivalry" between arcade and console gaming seems rather artificial, forced by some people that are, indeed, most likely trolls.

[Anonymous No.4787008]

>>4786987
Sure, I'm a big Toaplan and arcade fan but I'm not blind either. There are several made for console horis that beat the crap out of the Zero Wing arcade, for instance (fuck that red flashing), such as Gradius Gaiden (it's a more recent game but the point stands)

[Anonymous No.4787043]

>>4786630
The thing is, I've been playing these games, on and off, for well over a decade. When does the improvement start? How many hours a day do I need to devote myself to this shit? Unless I'm just old (I'm 30 years old) and my reaction times are just fucked and there's nothing I can do about it.

I'm playing R-Type 2 right now and holy fuck, the bosses in that game are just tearing me apart. The levels aren't that bad. Fuck the developer for those bosses though, I want to shit in an envelop and send it to him.

[Anonymous No.4787051]

>>4786838
Depends on the shooter. Some of them were so ridiculously unfair on arcades that the console port ends up being better, warts and all. I feel that way about Gradius 3. Slowdown aside, it's far more playable on SNES. Not to mention the exclusive content and sheer amount of customization.

It's not always black and white. Most of the time the arcade version ends up being the sleeker, better version. But there are cases where the console version has advantages, or is just so different that it's hard to say which is better. Super Earth Defense Force has exclusive content for SNES, and it's longer.

[Anonymous No.4787052]

>>4787043
R-Type is one of the series that do need memorization.
Try easier arcade shooters like Batsugun Special to get accustomed to.
Consistency is the key, though. One coin a day does a lot in even the short term.

[Anonymous No.4787056]

>>4787051
I need overclocked Gradius III SNES in my veins. And yeah, one of the rare exceptions of a console version being arguably better. But then again, III is probably the worst Gradius arcade.

[Anonymous No.4787058]

>>4787052
Honestly, when it comes to R-Type I'm okay with credit feeding it, mostly because dying has actual consequences and sends you back to an earlier part of the level. I forget, but is Batsugun like that? It's been many years since I last played it. R-Type is one of my favorites though, I managed to 1cc R-Type 3.

[Anonymous No.4787068]

>>4787058
Sure thing, I actually enjoy playing those like that sometimes.
Batsugun Special doesn't have checkpoints. It's just very lenient and easy to clear a loop in one credit, while still being good and fun IMO

[Anonymous No.4787070]

>>4787056
For me it's Gradius 4. Holy fuck, what a pain in the ass that game was. Bosses lasted forever and they managed to take a step backwards from the innovations games like 3 brought to the series. In my eyes it's the poorest version of the mainline games on arcade.

It was at that point when I started to think that Konami was running out of ideas. Treasure made the game different but actually did a better job than them, at least late '90s era Konami.

[Anonymous No.4787080]

>>4787068
You ever 1cc an R-Type? 3 is probably the easiest to do it on. I could never do 1 in a million years. That is the pinnacle of frustration. Think I'll try Batsugun again tho. Seems more manageable.

[Anonymous No.4787081]

>>4787070
It's not my favorite but I like it more than you do. That game is probably the last Konami-developed game I like, which may explain why I don't like later ones since they were starting to suck.

[Anonymous No.4787090]

What do you think about the original TwinBee? Arcade or Famicom version?
There's also the x68K version but I never played it.

[Anonymous No.4787091]

>>4787080
Be sure to play the Special version. The original Batsugun is harder, though still much easier than R-Type I'd say.
Yeah, I have. It's actually harder to beat them via continuing since recovery can be so insanely hard (ship too slow and stuff). These are not games I come back to at all though, except Leo which is very different. Not much of my cup of tea. I enjoy recovering from checkpoints in stuff like Flying Shark much more.

[Anonymous No.4787095]

>>4787090
Juggling. You reminded me of Brave Blade.

[Anonymous No.4787098]

>>4787081
To be honest, I'm not really a fan of games like Metal Gear, so late '90s/2000s era Konami wasn't really doing it for me any more. I didn't much care for Contra on PS1/PS2, and when games like Gradius were not being made as regularly, I just stopped buying their games. It's really too bad. I would kill for anything, even another Parodius.

[Anonymous No.4787103]

>>4787091
Yeah I'll try Special. Have not downloaded that one yet. You're right about the checkpoints, that tends to be a common theme in shmups like R-Type and Gradius. Gradius is probably the worst offender, because powerups are harder to snatch, and it takes so long to get back to full power. You may as well just start over after dying because the rest of it ends up being a slog.

I still love Gradius though, warts and all.

[Anonymous No.4787114]

>>4787098
I'm the same as you. Hell, Parodius was already a Pachinko franchise by '98 or so, but gayming didn't notice since it wasn't Silent Hill or something.
However, check out the Otomedius games. Their outside appearance is hideous, but focus on how they play.
>>4787103
I MUCH prefer Gradius, they are much less based on memorization just for survival. R-Type I and II I've only cleared once, but games like Gradius II are the stuff I come back to.
I think these games taught me to value 1CC (or even 1LC in these cases lol) back then since they don't let you continue.

[Anonymous No.4788643]

Did widescreen monitors kill the shmup genre?

[Anonymous No.4788654]

>>4788643
They killed gaming for me a bit (due to them not being as good for games as CRTs and thus games having to adapt to the input problems)

Anyway, not a good excuse since they could have focused on good horis.

[Anonymous No.4788657]

>>4788643
Switch is saving it.

[Anonymous No.4788679]

>>4788654
>good
>horis

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.4788680]

>>4788679
>having bad taste

[Anonymous No.4788685]

>>4787090
I had it on the NES (as Stinger). Fun game, great music.

[Anonymous No.4788692]

>>4788685
Stinger (Twin Bee 2) is the only game in the series that's horizontal.
Did you ever play the original, or TwinBee 3?

[Anonymous No.4788703]

>>4788679
They could have made them just like you like them but horizontally, man.

[Anonymous No.4788734]

>>4788692
Oh, no kidding? Had no idea it wasn't the original Twinbee. I'll put it on the must play list.

[Anonymous No.4788841]

Giga Wing, these last months I have been playing it daily and finally i can 1cc it.

[Anonymous No.4788898]

>playing a shmup the other day
>game had no autofire option
>broke my key mashing fire

[Anonymous No.4789019]

I really liked this one

[Anonymous No.4789391]

>>4788898
Don't you know about custom buttons and autofire on MAME?

[Anonymous No.4789394]

No love for SMF or Compile games in general?

[Anonymous No.4789395]

>>4789391
I guess I do now. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4789403]

>>4789394
Compile games are rather mediocre on the grand scheme of things, a bunch of them (including Super Aleste) drag on and have plenty of dull parts. They improved a lot when they went on to become an arcade company (Raizing).
For made for console shooters they are fine and I myself have fun with their games.

[Anonymous No.4789420]

>>4779925
Border Down on Dreamcast is my favorite, very underrated.

[Anonymous No.4789426]

>>4782525
gun.smoke

[Anonymous No.4789428]

>>4783534
Only played it once, but I think I beat the whole thing. REALLY easy for a shmup

[Anonymous No.4789441]

>>4782525
Commando
Ikari Warriors
Jackal

[Anonymous No.4789512]

>>4789403
Maybe so, but I think you have to take them in the context of them being console games; yes, they were a bit padded, but this was a point in gaming where shorter games were viewed pretty negatively, especially when it came to review scores, and companies were fighting for everyone's $60 cartridge purchase.

I love the high-octane arcade stuff as much as anyone else here, but I find in a certain serenity in Compile's console games where it's not too challenging and I can just sort of zone out in a meditative way for 12 or so stages.

[Anonymous No.4789796]

Anyone went to stunfest?

[Anonymous No.4789807]

>>4786204
>he wouldn't cuddle with a bee

[Anonymous No.4789861]

>>4789512
>but this was a point in gaming where shorter games were viewed pretty negatively
It's still a problem to me. Granted, I hate almost every long game since they always feel padded to me.
My problem with Compile is that it can get too uneventful and boring sometimes. Not to the point of Touhou crap, but it's the same feeling.

[Anonymous No.4789987]

what are the best shmups for a noob to run on a raspberry pi?

[Anonymous No.4790000]

>>4789987
I don't know about raspberry pi but the best shmup to 1cc a loop is Batsugun Special Version.

[Anonymous No.4790020]

>>4789428
LMAO THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE VR DADCUNT

I'll bet a bollock that you didn't 1cc both loops, it's considered psikyos hardest 2-all you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.4790025]

>>4790020
>dad
Will you please tell me what do you mean with this? "dad" is not an insult, and it makes you look very young, incel, or both.
>1cc
Have you posted yours?

[Anonymous No.4790027]

>>4790020
I didn't even want to comment, it was so obvious it was either bait or someone not into these. Probably got it on Switch or something, if they've ported it. Too easy of a target.

[Anonymous No.4790031]

>>4790025
>Have you posted yours?
Not him, but wtf, 1cc just means beating the game with a coin, without continuing. How do you post that?

[Anonymous No.4790035]

>>4790031
You can easily record yourself and upload to youtube.
I mean, for a guy that's so adaman about bragging nerd rights, he should have done that already, along with having a WR or two, at least.

[Anonymous No.4790039]

>>4790035
Why do I have to record myself for a simple clear? Why does this shit only happen to arcade players? No one asks "record your console game or else you haven't beaten it".
It's specially ridiculous since this isn't that hard at all most of the time, it isn't about bragging rights. People advocate for 1CC because many arcades let you infinitely continue and it so happens that people do so, then complain the games are "too easy and short". It's a way for them to appreciate these games, just that.

[Anonymous No.4790043]

>>4790039
I don't say that everyone should upload their 1cc's, but guys who really care about it, and act like cunts about it, like >>4790020, then I'd imagine they already have their 1cc's uploaded to youtube, along with a few WRs. I'd like to see them, is all.
Also, forget about the 1cc thing, I'm still mostly curious about what he means with the "dad" thing, he's been spouting that all over /vr/ for the past couple days and I can't figure out what he means. Obviously he means it in a derogatory way, but it's like saying "you're such a women impregnator!"

[Anonymous No.4790048]

>>4790043
The dad thing is a bit weird, I'll give you that.
But for instance, Rockman 2: The Power Fighters is a VERY easy (though equally as fun IMO) 1cc.

[Anonymous No.4790054]

>>4790043
He's probably a young guy who thinks calling people on /vr/ "dads" will make them feel bad or something.

[Anonymous No.4790057]

>>4790054
Probably one of those "weeb kids from /vg/ or another chan site" we were talking about earlier

[Anonymous No.4790103]

>>4790000
looks good, will add
I'm mainly looking for shmups that look good (but aren't 3D - the Pi can't handle it) and aren't too bullet hell

[Anonymous No.4790121]

>>4790103
Batsugun Special Version is both a good game and very lenient. It's an easier version (smaller hitbox, better bombs and has shields) but it has more than one loop compared to the original. However, the first loop becomes much easier as a result.
In style, it's right in between old school and bullet hell, so you get a bit of a taste of both (and also you train general skills while doing so). It leans more towards old school, so it's perfect for your needs.
It also looks quite well for a 1993 arcade IMO.

[Anonymous No.4790194]

>>4790043
"Dad" is a meme to refer to shit players who'd rather collect and discuss hardware than actually play and learn the games.

Also, the guy you're replying to is cee, who's posted his replays on the /vg/ shmup archive channel and his own youtube. He's really good at Batrider and Guwange.

[Anonymous No.4790205]

>>4790194
>"Dad" is a meme to refer to shit players who'd rather collect and discuss hardware than actually play and learn the games.
Tell me more. Where does it come from? the /vg/ threads?
Also, why not both? Serious pro arcade players play in original PCBs.
Only a teenager who can't afford real hardware and needs to find an identity (in this case "I'm part of a very niche group who plays niche japanese shooters dedicately!") would complain about such a thing, or try to make some sort of insult by calling people "dad".
Actually reminds me of the /mu/ kids who call everyone who doesn't listen to their soundcloud memerap a "dadrocker".

[Anonymous No.4790257]

>>4790205
>Tell me more. Where does it come from? the /vg/ threads?
Maybe. They sure do spam it a lot over there whenever someone is playing something older than CAVE PGM shmups. I haven't been there in a while, though. It got pretty terrible.

>Only a teenager who can't afford real hardware and needs to find an identity (in this case "I'm part of a very niche group who plays niche japanese shooters dedicately!") would complain about such a thing, or try to make some sort of insult by calling people "dad".
Yeah, that's probably why they sound so butthurt and jaded all the time. They have to deal with shitty, inaccurate emulation because they can't afford an authentic experience.

[Anonymous No.4790269]

>>4790205
If he's Cee (they think it's him for the "bollocks" I guess) then he's not a teenager at all
PCBs are FUCKING expensive, though

[Anonymous No.4790272]

>>4790257
>They sure do spam it a lot over there whenever someone is playing something older than CAVE PGM shmups.
Is this for real? No wonder I've never been to those threads, they reek of shit just with a quick glance.
Granted, Cave PGM games are good, but if anything they're the last great / classic arcade shooters, not the beginning wtf

[Anonymous No.4790551]

>>4790043
>guys who really care about it
I'm in the moderate camp of guys that hate people calling games they can't 1CC easy.

[Anonymous No.4790590]

>>4790257
>>4790272
It's unfortunate that the neo-shmup community has to be like that.
At least, since they seem to have an aversion to retro games, we're mostly clean of those. Or, well, almost. Some of that cancer leaks here, but at least now we can identify it.

[Anonymous No.4790615]

>>4790551
Who does that? Maybe it's common in those other places full of posers?
For me, easy 1CC is relegated to stuff like Rockman 2 TPF, Batsugun Special Version (1 loop) and stuff like that.
>>4790590
Do you think they have this attitude since retro shooters are very unlike their 2hus?

[Anonymous No.4790621]

>>4790615
>Do you think they have this attitude since retro shooters are very unlike their 2hus?
I don't think it's just that. Also, some of them might like retro games. They just seem to hold a grudge against older people. Maybe it's a mixture of poseurism ("_I'M_ the real deal, I'm a true hardcore player, not like those dads who just collect!") and jealousy, for not actually having experienced the golden days of arcade first hand.

[Anonymous No.4790626]

>>4779971
this game is hard as balls
>>4782525
dragon blaze, dimahoo, spit fire, ninja commando, shock troopers, guwange

my fav games are probably touhou 8 and 19xx probably they arent super overwhelming in difficulty like gunbird 2.
pic-related is armed police batrider if someone's wondering

[Anonymous No.4790639]

>>4790615
They make fun of older stuff ('80s to mid '90s) because they think they're too easy. Anything lower than DOJWL on that japanese difficulty chart for shmups is deemed dadshit by 4chan's 'superplayers'.

[Anonymous No.4790641]

>>4790626
It's BATWIDER, you climinal

Touhou 8 and 19XX, huh? You have broad tastes. Psikyo games in particular seem like the very opposite to Touhou to me.
I enjoy most shooters but Touhou is just too slow for my tastes.

[Anonymous No.4790643]

>>4790639
>4chan's 'superplayers'.
I chuckled.
Is it the same with japanese people? Or just a baka gaijin thing?

[Anonymous No.4790648]

>>4790639
>They make fun of older stuff ('80s to mid '90s) because they think they're too easy.
Emphasis on think then, Jesus. Even that chart has older games up there.

[Anonymous No.4790651]

>>4790641
isnt 19xx developed by capcom
also why do these threads always in super hot fire, even fighting game threads are not as hot and people fighting like that. is it possible that its same few people since I see names like cee and banana in /vr/ often. I know they are personalities of vg shmupg

[Anonymous No.4790664]

>go check the shmup general over at /vg/
>ctrl+f "dad"
>dozens of results
>all of it shitposting
Well, it was true.

[Anonymous No.4790673]

What's the most dadcore shmup?

[Anonymous No.4790682]

>>4790651
Yes, 19XX is by Capcom, but he also mentioned Gunbird 2 so he's probably played and enjoyed the game, even if it's too frustrating for him.
>also why do these threads always in super hot fire, even fighting game threads are not as hot and people fighting like that. is it possible that its same few people since I see names like cee and banana in /vr/ often. I know they are personalities of vg shmupg
Yeah, it seems it's a bunch of dedicated posters. I've been out for some months but some people here still remember me lol (the Spaniard) and I'm not even a tripfag. Maybe it's the fact that standalone threads don't get much attention (I make tons of them) so we all gather here. Also, these games are very good so it's natural they have a dedicated base. I participate on other arcade threads though, fighting games included, but to a lesser degree since shmups are my favorites.
>>4790664
Mystery solved.

[Anonymous No.4790685]

>>4790673
Raiden Trad

[Anonymous No.4790696]

>>4790682
amazing you managed to find comfy good feelings in all these argument and hot environment, really admirable desu

[Anonymous No.4790704]

>>4790696
It's the best I've found. But trust me, there's a reason I have been out for a while. I give the board a chance every so often but I usually end up disappointed.

[Anonymous No.4790716]

>>4790205
>stupid muh moral high ground dad cunt misses the point

You fucking moron, of course you can do what you like but the fact is the gulf between dad collectorthon scum cunts and actual players exists because theyhave no common ground. Players know and care about the actual game ie the scoring system, the techniques, the tips/improvements/new strats etcetc whereas the dadcunt scum shitter cares about MUH aesthetic, MUH theme, MUH artwork and MUH collection. Absolute scum sacks who collect pointless shit to fill a void that they don't have the minerals to fill with actual effort and skill.

FYI you obnoxious ignoramus dad cunt bellend the ddp doj bl wr is done on mame by chinese player WY who also plays on arcade at weekends, japs also use emulation for practice but like to do full runs on console or pcb because they have the FACILITIES to do so ie actual arcades in reach. FYI you're the fucking teenager who can't even focus on a game for it's own sake and need consumerism physical bilge shite to go with your "mature" flyers on the wall no doubt, fuck outta here players PLAY.

[Anonymous No.4790720]

>>4790682
>but some people here still remember me lol (the Spaniard)

Yeah i remember you richard, the sneeky back chatting spic queef cannon.

[Anonymous No.4790726]

>>4790716
If you weed out all the ad-hominem and insults in this post you'd probably end up with a much shorter post.
>>>/vg/
Your kind is not wanted here.
And I'm not even a collector, I play games. I'm just not interested in memes from other boards.

[Anonymous No.4790734]

>>4779925
>Basking in the summer sun,
>I greeted the seabirds.

>But then....
>I entered the demon's den.

[Anonymous No.4790741]

>>4790726
>muh ad hominem
It's facts mate, get a spare tampon.

>>4790726
>Your kind is not wanted here.
M-MUM HE THREATENS OUR E-E-CHO CHAMBER!!
Fuck up wet lettuce, you're a bitch in your mothers mind.

>>4790726
>And I'm not even a collector, I play games.
Bollocks, you're a dad shit collector cunt who game jumps and has not a single good score in one, go on tell me im wrong?

>>4790726
>I'm just not interested in memes from other boards.
>if i dont like it it's a meme!

Nah you're a dad cunt.

[Anonymous No.4790754]

>>4790741
I must say, your excessive shitposting is notable. I've seen you post for days and days without resting.
Do you even play games, or just shitpost all day?

[Anonymous No.4790757]

>>4790720
C'mon Cee, it wasn't so bad. I didn't picture you as such a sensitive person. Anyway, it wasn't on bad intent from my part, believe it or not.
Anyway, yeah, /vr/ is full of people like that in general, but it isn't so bad in these threads. It gets a bit worse in the beat 'em up threads though, since those are more popular to credit feed among the general retro crowd.
The thing is, shoot 'em ups are pretty polarizing games these days for some reason: people either ignore them completely or like them a lot. This middle ground of collectors isn't as present.

[Anonymous No.4790763]

You /vg/ kids are aware that this whole "collectors can't 1cc games" is just inside your mind, right?
I mean, we're all anonymous here. You don't know anybody. Some people have been playing games since before you guys were even born.
There's more than 1cc'ing in life. For example, impregnating a woman and being a dad.
You will understand as your balls drop.

[Anonymous No.4790785]

>>4790763
Yeah, I don't own a single PCB or physical shoot 'em up, yet they're my favorite games ever (thanks to MAME).
But, I also prefer playing lots of them, maybe 1cc'ing them and getting into the scoring systems I enjoy the most for some PBs.
I don't come from /vg/ and I'm neither a teenager nor someone that grew up with these in the 80's.
He's just stereotyping people.

[Anonymous No.4790791]

>>4790785
I wasn't adressing you then, I'm addressing the /vg/ kids that sneak their underage ass into /vr/

[Anonymous No.4790828]

>>4790791
And I was referring to how Cee stereotypes people into these two groups.
And no, Cee, talking about you in a public imageboard like this without giving you a (You) like this is not "back chatting" lol

[Anonymous No.4790829]

>>4790763
>You /vg/ kids are aware that this whole "collectors can't 1cc games" is just inside your mind, right?
Now, don't let cee's shitposting make you start defending collectors. The entire reason they're hated is because they don't play games, yet spend all their time on retro gaming boards.

[Anonymous No.4790836]

>>4790763
>You don't know anybody
>hurrr this is only place shmupfags congregate

The community knows each other idiot.

>hurrrrr if you're good at games you do nothing else
The absolute STATE of the cope post boring normie dad cunt.

>>4790763
>You /vg/ kids are aware that this whole "collectors can't 1cc games" is just inside your mind, right?
1cc is pleb shit you know that right? nearly all the best players in the west used mame and don't collect shit, only the hipster faggots do.

>>4790791
We're all 25-35 you daft cunt, go back to pipe n slippers grandad you boring old no talent fuck.

[Anonymous No.4790847]

>>4786204
I want normalfags to go and stay go.

[Anonymous No.4790851]

>>4790828
Only i don't, you're just so dumb you perceive it as such.

>>4790828
>And no, Cee, talking about you in a public imageboard like this without giving you a (You) like this is not "back chatting" lol
of course it isn't? fucking hell why are spics always so unintelligent? It was a reference to catching you doing it before.

gaylord.

[Anonymous No.4790854]

>>4790829
>>4790829
I don't even care who this "cee" faggot is.
And I'm not defending collectors, I'm just saying you can't make blind guesses like that on anonymous image boards.
Basically I agree with what you guys say. I'd advice you stop giving him attention. He's not a celebrity.
>yet spend all their time on retro gaming boards.
Wouldn't that be also true for these poseur "superplayers" of 4chan?

[Anonymous No.4790859]

>>4790829
Who cares? I think they are retarded but what difference does it make.

[Anonymous No.4790862]

>>4790836
>The community
What community? /vg/'s shmup thread? Don't make me laugh.
You're not part of any real community, japanese people don't know you, you're a literal nobody who just shitposts on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4790867]

>>4790854
You fucking idiot, the community is small and exists elsewhere so we have a general idea of who's who even here, you are absolutely clueless to levels of embarrassing. You can't play, you know nothing about the games, you cope post with the usual dadshit retorts "hurrrrrr moar 2 laif than 1cc! get a girl preggers!" it's like listening to the reasoning of a bonobo ape.

Go on give me a chuckle, what stg you best at?

[Anonymous No.4790868]

>>4790836
>The community
What community?

[Anonymous No.4790870]

>>4790867
undertale

[Anonymous No.4790871]

>>4790867
>the community, the community
You really think you're more than what you really are.
You "community" is just a thread on a board that was designed to be a containment for some of /v/'s most cancerous fanbases. Have fun.

[Anonymous No.4790873]

>>4790867
I am convinced many of the best players wouldn't even bother interacting with the "community" or uploading any videos. Go circlejerk on /vg/.

[Anonymous No.4790875]

>>4790847
/vg/ sure is leaking
>>4790836
>The community
There's only one apparently?
>>4790851
>It was a reference to catching you doing it before.
How can you catch me doing that if I only post here where you can see all of my posts lol I really didn't expect you to get this mad.

[Anonymous No.4790879]

>>4790862
>What community? /vg/'s shmup thread? Don't make me laugh.
>You're not part of any real community, japanese people don't know you, you're a literal nobody who just shitposts on 4chan.
>being this ignorant

The shmups forum? I and most ppl in the scene have posted there for over a decade you stupid bitch.

>japanese people don't know you
well that's funny because the guwange counterstopper for shishin and gensuke follows me on twitch. The funny bit is i can fuck you up in stgs, pinball, arcade racers and bmups and i only play for a couple hrs a day max because i have other stuff to do, what's your excuse? no discipline typical lazy apathetic western shitter who can't apply himself. What a joke.

[Anonymous No.4790883]

>>4790879
>one person follow me on a social media platform, therefore it means they know who I am!
Oh, Gen Z.

[Anonymous No.4790886]

>>4790871
for the last time..... the community exists on many forums and social media, stop being this fucking stupid.

>>4790875
>How can you catch me doing that if I only post here where you can see all of my posts lol I really didn't expect you to get this mad.
Your memory is baked then if you've forgotten already and who's mad? not me lad, i'm stating the fact that you're a faggot weasel bitch who needs the noose, i don't need to be "mad" to consider it as the best course of action.

[Anonymous No.4790893]

>>4790879
>The shmups forum? I and most ppl in the scene have posted there for over a decade you stupid bitch.
Please stay there. Why do you come to an anonymous imageboard to make a name for yourself and insist anyone who disagrees with you needs to identify themselves? I don't think you are autistic because you are good at videogames. I think you are autistic because your ego needs you to be "that very good arcade gamer" online.

[Anonymous No.4790896]

>>4790883
you're really trying this hard?

>quick he proved me wrong move the goalposts!!!!!!!

When are you going to start talking about the games?

[Anonymous No.4790897]

>>4790886
Thing is, you're not part of any community. Nobody cares about you, which is why, ultimately, you resort to shitposting in anonymous boards that aren't your home.
Just go back to /vg/, to your "community".

[Anonymous No.4790898]

>>4790896
>>quick he proved me wrong move the goalposts!!!!!!!
Again, the fact someone follows you on social media doesn't mean they know you. Stop being this much of a gen Z shitter.
You're a nobody.

[Anonymous No.4790905]

When does the bitterness and shitposting stop?

[Anonymous No.4790909]

>>4790905
When the /vg/ posters reach adulthood. Might take a few more years.

[Anonymous No.4790913]

>>4790905
The first thirty or so posts on a new thread before /vg/ come here.

[Anonymous No.4790917]

>>4790879
>The shmups forum
Didn't they ban you? You seem to value that community a lot now for some reason, I thought you didn't.

[Anonymous No.4790921]

>>4790913
Why do they even feel the need to come here anyway?

[Anonymous No.4790925]

Why is janny deleting Cee's posts? It's funny seeing him make an ass out of himself.

[Anonymous No.4790929]

>>4790925
they're probably reporting his posts to global mods for a ban request.
His retarded posts will forever be on the archives, anyway.

[Anonymous No.4790934]

I'm starting to think he's gone mad. How can one think an anon can "back chat" him posting here where he and everyone can see the posts? Now that's some weirdly inflated ego.

[Anonymous No.4790938]

>>4779925
Lords of thunder

[Anonymous No.4790950]

>>4790897
lmfaoo still trying this assumption bilge reverse psychology guff, sophomoric.

>>4790898
That's a different debate but lmao at injecting so much existential bollocks. Yes we including the best players in the world are all nobodies, does that change the fact there's a hub and community where everybody is familiar with each other within it's confines since forever including on /vg/? fucking YES. You absolute donut. If you put as much effort into playing a game as you do embarrassing yourself you might get something good going on.

[Anonymous No.4790958]

>>4790938
That one's not bad actually, but I prefer many others. Lacks a bit of substance.

[Anonymous No.4790960]

>>4790950
Why aren't you playing some shmups right now instead of shitposting on a board that you evidently don't like because we're all "dads"?

[Anonymous No.4790985]

>>4790960
Playing shmups isn't nearly as rewarding as defeating dads in dialectical debates.

[Anonymous No.4790991]

>>4790985
And worrying about people back chatting you on 4chan. You're just making a fool of yourself now. But whatever, have fun, at least you bump the threads, and we do need that help here with this flood of Final Fantasy threads.

[Anonymous No.4790993]

>>4786220
Not my fault arcades were already dead when I was growing up. I liked Raiden and Viper Phase 1 a lot, and really old school games like Defender and Galaxian, but that's about the extent of my arcade shooter experience. Was always a poorfag as well so console peasantry is all I know.

[Anonymous No.4791002]

>>4790993
Dude, at least emulate Raiden if you like Raiden Trad, it's very accurate, not a terrible experience or anything
If anything, any amount of input lag induced by MAME or maybe LCDs is nothing compared to how bad Raiden Trad is
I don't get you, but nice to see your perspective. I like Viper Phase 1 a lot, I was playing it on MAME last night.

[Anonymous No.4791010]

>>4791002
I'm not the Raiden Trad guy.

[Anonymous No.4791012]

>>4786236
Sorry for the late reply, but if your Saturn is a model 2 with round buttons, it is really easy to install the modchip from racketboy that lets you run cd-rs.

[Anonymous No.4791016]

>>4791010
OK, that explains some of it lol
There were plenty of cool ports and made for console shooters up till even the 6th gen, and that's including older ones, though.
Raiden , 2 and DX were available fairly accurately on PS1 iirc

[Anonymous No.4791025]

>>4791012
Or get a 4mb+ cart and pseudosaturn

[Anonymous No.4791030]

>>4786236
Fuck Radiant play true ST-V kino

>the games extended storyline and backstory were published in Japanese SEGA Saturn magazines
It was pretty high profile it seems

[Anonymous No.4791035]

>>4791016
I plan on getting a MAME machine dedicated entirely to shooters put together one of these days.

[Anonymous No.4791037]

>>4791035
Nah do it for Gaiapolis.

[Anonymous No.4791042]

>>4791030
I prefer that game too

[Anonymous No.4791048]

>>4791035
Then there's also the 360 but that's when it got hard to get these (you had to import and shit, and that console's base controller was definitely subpar for these). And now the genre is dead outside of mostly meh indies. So dead.

[Anonymous No.4791052]

>>4791048
Even Raiden became a joke with Raiden V what were they smoking with that one.

[Anonymous No.4791064]

>>4791052
Granted, III and IV weren't stellar from what I've heard. Haven't played them though, but they do look a bit rough around the edges even if they look like still fun to me.
The series is very good Raiden 1 and 2 are probably the best "Toaplan-clones". DX took that formula to new heights with better scoring due to new trends (around Ray Force), the Fighters series is amazing in its own right and more unique, and then there's Viper Phase 1 as a middle ground, I've grown to like it a lot (the NEW VERSION, though)

[Anonymous No.4791069]

>>4779925
Oh man shmups is my favorite genre. I love watching youtube videos and pretend that I'm good in something.

[Anonymous No.4791073]

>>4791069
People here actually play them. Well, at least I do. It's almost the only thing I play these days, except for some other arcade genres from time to time to spice things up.

[Anonymous No.4791081]

>>4791073
I know, I was making a joke at how it's required to study youtube videos for epic high scoring skills and social approval.

[Anonymous No.4791082]

>>4791073
Not that guy but I have not played them in years I used to play tons, I beat the 2nd loop of DoDonPachi and never touched the genre since thinking of Strikers 1945 II though

[Anonymous No.4791103]

>>4791081
Oh, OK
>>4791082
What happened, bud?

[Anonymous No.4791116]

>>4791103
I got burned out I guess. But now that we got fancy stuff such as free sync which fixes the scrolling in games that run in odd hz frequencies I don't have to chose between choppy scrolling and disgusting lag.

[Anonymous No.4791137]

>>4780419
I forgot Slap Fight MD.
>>4786220
>>4786270
>>4786647
I'm not interested in being le true partition or trying to justify my sentimental favorites to you, niglet.

[Anonymous No.4791147]

>>4791116
Also while I at it there is no difference between Strikers II WORLD&Japan settings right?

[Anonymous No.4791152]

>>4791116
I've never been too bothered with the sync problems, I hardly notice once these games get hectic
>>4791137
Dude, do yourself a favor and play Raiden. This isn't about le true, that port is just bad. Why would you ever play that having the original available.

[Anonymous No.4791193]

>>4791152
Because I rarely emulate and I don't play PlayStation games. Maybe I'll look into getting a PSIO someday and dust off the PlayStation, but for now the console ports are fine with me (warts and all).

Music-wise, I think I even prefer the Genesis renditions to the original arcade music.

[Anonymous No.4791397]

>>4790991
I wonder what thread the Final Fantasy spammer is trying to slide.

Also, lol at the mod giving me a 1-day ban thinking I was Cee. Dat paranoia.

[Anonymous No.4791460]

>>4791397
I don't think mods care about individual shitposters by name, they probably banned you for the (shit) content of your posts.

[Anonymous No.4791481]

>>4790043
It's just some shitposter trying to force a new buzzword here. Same type of nonsense as the doombaby and fifthgenner guys. Hell wouldn't be shocked if it were all the same guy.

[Anonymous No.4791482]

>>4791481
The shitposter/s was already identified as some kid from /vg/.

[Anonymous No.4791489]

>>4791460
Everything is shit content on 4chan, so by that logic we should all be banned right now.

[Anonymous No.4791620]

>>4787090
I got the PC engine version off the virtual console on the Wii just before it shut down. I loved it.

[Anonymous No.4791692]

>>4791620
The PC Engine one is Detana Twin Bee, not the original, but yeah that one is pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.4791836]

>yfw picking Judge Spear for the first time

[Anonymous No.4792132]

>>4791193
I mean, you can make an exception to play the best version of one of your personal favorites... right?

[Anonymous No.4792165]

>>4791082
>I beat the 2nd loop of DoDonPachi
i hope you mean 1cc?

>>4791116
>I don't have to chose between choppy scrolling and disgusting lag.
this is drivel though, a little screen tearing is barely an issue and not enough to stop someone, matic got 600 mill + in ddp with it, i got 50+ mill in guwange with it and pazzy poofinger got 500 mill plus in ketsui with it along with a whole list of others, its a non issue if you just want to play.

[Anonymous No.4792168]

>>4790960
i'll start playing them again when any of you post a score close to any of mine and don't act like posting here takes longer than a minute. Arcade wise i play more bmups and time attack arcade racers these days oh and pinball than shmups which honestly get miserable and shit at a certain level due to rng.

[Anonymous No.4792174]

>>4792165
I never said it was impossible I still found it annoying while vsync made it unplayable shit. I got 400 million and simply just stopped playing the genre.

[Anonymous No.4792214]

>>4792174
well good for you with the score, i'm amazed you went that far if you really found it that annoying, it's never bothered me desu.

Also at the petit faggot mod you can stop trying to be annoying with constant 10 min bans now, grow up you cunt.

[Anonymous No.4792220]

>>4792214
>i'm amazed you went that far if you really found it that annoying
It's called being a retard one of my uni semesters almost went down the drain because too much Dimahoo.

[Anonymous No.4792267]

>tfw the mod is a dumb cunt who thinks he's achieving anything
>tfw he's triggered because i speak the truth he doesn't want to hear because he's a weak, pathetic collecting man child who needs a hugbox and echo chamber.

The absolute STATE of the loser mod, don't forget to ban me buddy it REALLY works!

[Anonymous No.4792373]

STATE

[Anonymous No.4792419]

TFW TRIGGERED DADSHIT

[Anonymous No.4792505]

>>4790734
One day I'll clear R-Type 1. It's been 5 years since I first played it and I still can't reliably clear stage 4. And 5's worms just rape me the next level anyway.

[Anonymous No.4792603]

>>4792505
That game is unfortunately a memory fest. I think R-Type's popularity may have given this general image of the genre of being "memory games", when it's only a subset of them (it's not only 80's horis, there's also stuff like Psikyo's second loops)
>>4792419
>Pepe
Oh boy, we're dealing with the bottom of the barrel here

[Anonymous No.4794624]

>tfw play batrider first time in ages, get a H score on my first run like it's nothing

How are you dadshits doing with your pcbs?