Reducing Dreamcast drive noise through lubrication

[Anonymous No.4776193]

This video shows how to reduce the noise of the Dreamcast by lubrication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtSA6yamcMI

Lubing the laser sled track and plastic gears does help to reduce the seeking noise of the drive however the constant spinning noise is still present and annoying.

Is there a way to lubricate the drive spindle motor as well? How do I reach into there?

Is white lithium grease the correct lubricant to use? What if I use teflon spray?

[Anonymous No.4776939]

>>4776193
I love those noises, they are part of the experience IMO

[Anonymous No.4776949]

>>4776193
Like the dreamcast needs your help for it's laser to break. I bet you play burned games too.

[Anonymous No.4776978]

>>4776193

Definitely don't use white lithium grease on electric motors, ever.

[Anonymous No.4777024]

>>4776193
Could just get GDEmu. No disc drive at all, then.

[Anonymous No.4777037]

>>4776193
Remember that half of the noise also comes from that small fan on the right side.
Especially now that those consoles are old and the fans are worn out you would need to replace it for the console to actually stay quiet.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4777043]

>>4776978
I gotta agree with this. I'm usually in the "Dreamcasts are reliable" camp but muffling their gears with thick grease isn't going to prolong their life span.

If the sound your consoles make actually annoys you the best way to fix this is to keep them in a sound dampening but we'll ventilated cabinet as far from where you sit as possible

[Anonymous No.4777057]

>>4776939
>Loving the sound of hardware decay
Not me bro, that sounds just reminds me of the inevitable death of the laser. I keep all my systems cleaned and refurbed as often as humanly possible (once a year).

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4777075]

>>4777057
>I can hear this clock ticking. It must be about to fail. Better grease it up.

[Anonymous No.4777076]

>>4777043

The worm gears, and rails of a CD unit are worth cleaning and re-lubricating if the machine has accumulated a lot of dust of over the years; especially if the system was factory lubricated with lithium grease (PC engine CD drives are often a fucking mess)

Tayama makes a ceramic grease that Japanese console repair guys love. Can't buy it in Canada because it's toxic or some shit, but easy enough to get on ebay.

[Anonymous No.4777094]

>>4776939

They are also part of your drive slowly fucking itself up from the inside because it lacks proper lubrication.

[Anonymous No.4777096]

>>4777075

Great analogy, especially because a clock spins as fast as a fucking cd drive.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4777103]

>>4777076
>>4777096
Brand new Dreamcasts make very audible noise it's just how they are. If you muffle it with thick grease you're making the motor work harder than it needs to

[Anonymous No.4777107]

>>4777103
Thats not how grease works.

[Anonymous No.4777115]

>>4777103

There's more than one kind of grease and there are lots of lubricants that can be used in electronics and plastic parts of cd drive. And I'm not even gonna comment on retarded idea of greasing the motor.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4777116]

>>4777107
Bullshit

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4777120]

>>4777115
The point is that if you eliminate a Dreamcast's natural clicks and whirs through "lubrication" you're making it work harder and reducing its lifespan notably moreso than the few extra reads that using CDRs cause.

[Anonymous No.4777156]

>>4777120

What the fuck kind of lubrication makes things work "harder"? I think you might not understand the core fucking concept. If you mean putting bearing grease on gears - then yes, but this is not the only method of lubrication.

[Anonymous No.4777167]

>>4777120
Oh my. No dude, a thin layer of white lithium grease makes it easier for the parts to slide. All drives come shipped with some on the rails and gears dummy and replacing it extends the life of the drive. Yes even the dreamcast drive.

You must think the grease is sticky or too thick or something but I assure you it is not.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4777226]

>>4777167
>>4777156
Friction is not the source of the noises Dreamcasts are known for making

[Anonymous No.4777249]

>>4777226
>Nice goalpost shift
You mean the motor whine? This is connected to that. Reducing any plastic on plastic friction with lubrication will be good for the motor in the long run.

I've re greased all three of my DCs and it made a huge difference in 2 of them. Faster loading too bruh

[Anonymous No.4777274]

The big gobs of thick grease shown in OP's video are absolutely not the right approach for lubricating an optical disc mechanism. It requires something far less viscous, applied very sparingly.

Cabbage Pants is actually correct for a change, dampening the sound in this way is going to wreck things in the medium to long term.

[Anonymous No.4777352]

>>4777274
Yeah, the guy in the vid is doing it wrong but the right amount of the right kind of lube wont "wreck things".

I use white lithium which is ok for most things but there's some Teflon stuff that is supposedly even better for the laser gears.

[Anonymous No.4777403]

>>4777352
POM plastic commonly used for these types of mechanism is virtually self-lubricating.

All I'd want to use is a drop or two of liquid silicone to help it along and eliminate any remaining frictional noise.

[Anonymous No.4777985]

>>4777057
Wut? Does the giant laser make different sounds as it starts to die? Not the normal pew pew noises? Out of curiosity how many systems does your autistic cleaning and refurbing destroy each year.

[Anonymous No.4778000]

>>4777156
my dad works at Nintendo and he says the best way to take care of a Dreamcast is with a can of brake cleaner followed by a can of WD-40

[Anonymous No.4778010]

>>4777352
>Teflon stuff that is supposedly even better for the laser gears
Krytox? It's expensive but it's basically a liquid analog of Teflon, a nonreactive fluoropolymer grease, and also contains teflon for thickening.
It's extremely nonreactive and no common solvents will remove it, also if you have any residue on your fingers and then go smoke a cigarette you will literally die because the heat converts the residue to hydrogen fluoride which you then suck straight into your lungs and on contact with the moisture in your lungs hydrogen fluoride becomes hydrofluoric acid
Technicians do in fact die from this sometimes

[Anonymous No.4778294]

>>4776949
>muh burned games burn out the laser
kys

[Anonymous No.4778326]

>>4778294
I wouldn't expect a kid like you to understand, but the burning laser needs so much output power to denature the dye layer in submicrosecond timeframes that it leaves the substrate pits in a high flux state. The dreamcast uses an extremely finely tuned laser and when it strikes these substrate anomalities, transitive phase structures are inbound by the photonic influx and the return beam is diffracted to a resonant wave higher in peak energy than the emitted pulse due to diffraction ring interference, and over time this causes interstitial ablation in the pickup lens and which results in stratified delamination via the pillsbury-biscuit effect

[Anonymous No.4778340]

>>4778326
Huh....weird how you claim burned games use more power, when the laser power can be manually adjusted on the drive itself.

[Anonymous No.4778348]

>>4778340
Not him but he's saying the laser beam hits the burned disc and come back stronger than it was before because the burned disc has a lot of laser energy absorbed into it from the burning process and it blasts apart the pickup lens over time

[Anonymous No.4778503]

>>4778348
>>4778340
you're both illiterate, what he said is the diffraction creates interference patterns akin to the double slit effect which results in a sawtooth intensity waveform if it were to be viewed on an oscilloscope and it's the peaks of the sawtooth pattern that damage the pickup lens over time because the laser intensity is detected by the root-mean-squared method but the peak intensity is far higher and damages the optical resin of the pickup lens.

[Anonymous No.4778547]

What's really scary is that with the state of retardation on nu-/vr/ these days I don't know whether you guys are trolling or serious

[Anonymous No.4778583]

>>4778010
>Krytox?
No I dont think thats it. its used for model trains and RC cars

[Anonymous No.4778586]

>>4776193
Is playing burned games bad for your dreamcast?

[Anonymous No.4779047]

>>4778586
Yes, as explained above

[Anonymous No.4779145]

>>4778326
>pillsbury-biscuit effect
Some hot new /vr/ meme of which I am as yet unaware?

[Anonymous No.4779163]

>>4779145
It's an extreme type of serial delamination failure caused by collimated diffraction peaking in optical resin media
This is an approximation of the failure mode due to the phenomenon:
https://youtu.be/8vT71gOUCJg
obviously it's not a dreamcast laser lens in the video but it's a visual aid for comprehension

[Anonymous No.4779164]

Are you people retarded?
Putting grease in a fucking engine or something is okay, the engine is designed to be a system that can use it and operate under that load

A dreamcast has exposed electronics under the tray. Why the fuck would you risk putting a viscous fluid literally into the machine?

You people are absolutely retarded.
Only babbage's knows what he is talking about, once again.

[Anonymous No.4779170]

>>4779164
>oh shit don't get that dielectric grease onto that circuit board

[Anonymous No.4779172]

>>4779163
...and here was me thinking I might need to dredge up some knowledge from my days in the fiber optic engineering field to debunk you.

Thanks for the chuckle anon <3

[Anonymous No.4779175]

>>4779170
>the circuit board is the only part of electronics within the console

[Anonymous No.4779204]

>>4779164
>putting grease into random places in an engine is perfectly fine because an engine is a big rumble rumble thing made by 40k orcs that slams metal together with fire to make vroom vroom
your mechanic is going to love you for this especially when the silicone grease ends up working its way into the combustion chamber and the high pressure hydrocarbon fire with its rich-running mixture required by the three way catalytic converter results in the silicone grease turning into silicon carbide grit which results in your cylinder linings being rebored on-the-fly

[Anonymous No.4779207]

>>4779145
Its the most retarded shit ive ever read. So much jargon and then to end it "via the pillsbury-buscuit effect." Kek that was hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4779209]

>>4779172
>when 12 hours of shitposting finally pays off
pleasure to be of service anon

[Anonymous No.4779218]

>>4779209
You done good son

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4779406]

>>4779204
Joke's on you I only run straight piped V8s

[Anonymous No.4779416]

>>4778586
No, poster below you is a retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.4779432]

>>4776193
It's not that noisy or annoying to me. But if you guys have that much of a problem with it, replace the laser reader with a microSD card reader.

[Anonymous No.4779512]

>>4777103
You are continuously the worst poster on /vr/.
How can you not know what lubrication's purpose is?
Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.4779515]

>>4779406
god damn this name fag is so annoying.

[Anonymous No.4779521]

>>4777156
he is really dumb, i have seen him reveal himself to be autistic.

[Anonymous No.4779538]

>>4776193
The spindle and sled motors supplied with the dreamcast are cutrate pieces of shit, and should be replaced by more modern motors

This is a drop-in replacement for the sled motor:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/nmb-technologies-corporation/PPN13PB11C2/P14356-ND/2417080

It is a brushed motor, and is FAR quieter than the original one, and requires no lubrication.

The spindle motor can be pulled from any existing 12x-24x CD Rom drive, and is a simple 2-wire interface. Any of them will be better than the one the DC shipped with.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4779570]

>>4779515
>>4779521
I'll reveal myself to your mom

[Anonymous No.4779757]

>>4777094
Not true certain Dreamcast lasers sounds less I noticed I got one with a SAMSUNG drive screeches like sob meanwhile the Yamaha one is way quieter

[Anonymous No.4779764]

>>4779570
You're not doing yourself any favours here

[Anonymous No.4780264]

>>4779538
>Somebody offering actual helpful information instead of trolling
Dont know if its actual children or grown men who act like children shitting up the thread but both are equally cancerous

[Anonymous No.4780267]

>>4779406

Why haven't anyone doxxed and stolen all of this fags shit alreayd?

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4780348]

>>4779764
I'm having an alright time. Aren't you?

>>4780267
So many tripfags get their homes invaded and/or their cars stolen out of their garages I better look out. It's practically an epidemic

[Anonymous No.4780416]

>>4780348
If anyone does show up I'm sure you'll just add them to your collection

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4780446]

>>4780416
Yes, I'm quite confident the only people who deeply hate me are morons, colossal pussies and Europeans none of whom I feel especially threatened by.

[Anonymous No.4780482]

>>4778010
Well explained Heisenberg

[Anonymous No.4780868]

>>4780446
>Europeans
They's make an excellent european suit for you.

[Anonymous No.4780996]

>>4780446
Hehe you really are quite mad aren't you?

Get some fresh air.

[Anonymous No.4781157]

>>4777037
The fan on my DC is barely audible. most of the noise is from the disc drive.

[Anonymous No.4781169]

>>4779757
I think you probably hit the nail on the head there.

My Yamaha-drived DC is also not terribly loud. Don't have a working Samshit one to compare tho...

[Anonymous No.4781193]

>>4780267
Have you seen where he lives? Nothing much worth entering his empire of dirt to steal.

I could probably get a few dozen dragon dildos overnighted to him though, or rather to his wife as I think she is in more desperate need of something along those lines.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4781579]

>>4780996
>>4781193
Oh no! My feels!