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4757849 No.4757849 [Reply] [Original]

Whatever happened to this? Did they run off with the money?

>> No.4757850

yes

>> No.4757856

Serves anyone right who still kickstarts or preorders in >2018

>> No.4757863

You should have suspected when they refused to show any gameplay videos besides that heavily edited trailer.

>> No.4757867

>>4757849
I got an email like a month or two ago from them saying that well obviously the game's gonna have to be different now so it's gonna be changed and that's gonna take the next while.

>>4757856
so fucking foolishly optimistic I was. now I honestly consider it a stupidity tax

>> No.4757879

>>4757849
>Did they run off with the money?
Fonzie (rhymes with Ponzie) has not paid
-his sprite artists
-his musicians
-his coders
-his own office workers

So where do you think that money flew off to?

>> No.4757881

>>4757879
source?

>> No.4757883

I heard that all the backers will get their datenmeister chip in the mail soon. It may not be functional but I heard if you grind it up and snort it, you get a wicked head rush.

>> No.4757894

>>4757856
This. Preordering is just asking to be scammed.

>> No.4758084

>>4757881
If you google for the Paprium thread on sega-16, you will find hundreds of pages of bitching from backers, former employees, and a few current [?].

After the original guy who founded the company and made Pier Solar left, it seems like Watermelon has been assailed by seriously bad management.

>> No.4758161

>>4757881
There's gonna be a video with former wm members (and others) soon.
Also, if you understand french, this is hilarious(ly sad)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ock91NT8-1I

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4758359

Everybody got screwed!

>> No.4758374

>>4757849
This was that game that looked really fun and had a Gachi guy with sunglasses breaking walls and screaming right?
I thought it looked great and loved the trailer, it's a shame they apparently scammed everyone

>> No.4758426

>>4757867
On a measure of 1 to 100, how much hope do you have that you'll still get that game in the mail one day?

>> No.4759143

>>4758426
90 of 100

I have no doubt it will be released.
the only question is when

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>>4758426
>4757867
my answer like 40ish of 100
I think there's a proper chance of this dying and becoming a fucking video topic for youtubers in 2019.I'm still holding out some hope it'll show up and I'll have to pay something ridiculous for postage and it'll be a gimped version somehow. I have no further illusions of getting to the fucking mirage I fell for.

>>4758374
I feel like such a dumb dick. I used to laugh at those people and make fun of them. Turns out the fucking feeb was I all along.

>> No.4759546

Personally I think it will be released, Fonzie is a dick but he's also a control freak. so a potential lawsuit would probably make him resort to suicide.
No, the game will be released. but like Pier Solar it will be underwhelming and not very fun and released years after the original deadline.

And we'll all have a good laugh as we remember how Fonzie said this was gonna be the SOR2 killer.

>> No.4759696

>>4759546
Perhaps it can still kill DUAL ORB 2

>> No.4760058

Its obviously not a scam considering they've released other games.

>> No.4760290

>>4759546
it might be released but way beyond current schedule (MD 30th anniversary).
Fonzie is litteraly alone now (PS was a teamwork)
Datenmeister (which domain and homepage was bought and setup by Fonzie) has been dropped and most probably will be replaced by an FPGA.
This implies a massive rework, music is already known to be altered (without GM303 permission btw).
Fonzie isn't an optimization genius, he had help from another person on Datenmeister (OB1).
No one is willing to work with Fonzie (new or former WM), because he's now infamous for not paying. Last person to help was Stef from Gens emu about FPGA switch, but he refused to commit more.

>> No.4760481 [DELETED] 

>That moment when you realize that of the 15 posters in this thread about 10 of them must be Sega-16 regulars
>Yes, including me.

>> No.4760879

>>4757849
No but they're pulling some incredibly shady shit. The game marketed itself heavily on the use of some special chip made just for it and now suddenly they can't use the chip yet claim the game won't be altered in a significant way to compensate. Fonzie seriously needs to either hire a guy for PR or stop being a lazy cunt and give updates every few weeks he did the same crap with Pier Solar and it's frustrating.

>> No.4762037

>>4757849
high kicked
https://youtu.be/ock91NT8-1I

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>>4762148

>> No.4762560
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4762560

>buy gems with real money
>invest in not yet made games
>invest as many as you like
>then I'll go offline for years

This shit had scam written all over it from the beginning.

>> No.4762638

WM realized that they wouldn't be able to bullshot their way out of this game

>> No.4762706

>>4762560
Fonzie always disappears for an absurdly large amount of time. He did this with the Pier Solar reprint. I'm sure Paprium will come out but I sure as fuck ain't buying anything from him again after it because this is just ridiculous.

>> No.4762864

>>4762706

He drove the company’s Trustworthiness into the ground, can't even sell the Watermelon IP after this shit.

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>>4762864
I just don't get it. Literally all he has to fucking do is hop on twitter, facebook, or the forums once a month and go "Here's where we're at" and almost all of his issues would go away yet he insists on just fucking off for nearly a year until the forums make enough of an uproar he has no other option but to respond as people request mass refunds in anger.

>> No.4763527

I first began suspecting shenanigans when questions about PAL optimization were answered with no real information. It'll just work the same speed on both kinds of consoles and TVs will it? Ok sure.

>> No.4763532

>>4763527
There's hardly any real information on the game itself. If Pier Solar wasn't a thing I'd think this was some scam from the very start since we got at most what ten seconds of real gameplay footage in that trailer, two or three screenshots, and about a minute of some songs from the soundtrack? That little for a game that's supposedly been in development for at least four years is suspicious especially if it's using some revolutionary new hardware to push the Genesis to its absolute limit. Most people would be proud and show off as much as possible before release to garner hype but then again Fonzie probably is aware when it comes to homebrew people know it's either throw money at it now or pay out the ass from scalpers on ebay later.

>> No.4764967

>>4760879
>some special chip made just for it
How fucking delusional did they have to be to believe they could engineer a special chip for this game?

>> No.4765198

>>4764967
>they

Just Fonzie and his lies.

>> No.4765229

>>4764967
they already did for PS, though it does far less than what Datenmeister was supposed to do.
Apparently finished Datenmeister does exists but is bugged or is flawed and thus cannot be used as planned.

>> No.4765468

Damn, back when this was getting shilled to high holy hell around here I nearly took the bait. Glad I smelled that shit coming.

>> No.4766283

>>4762037
EOP here, what is this?

>> No.4766625

I put 50 bucks toward this and their SNES game back in like, 2013. At the time I was living at home and working at McDonald's, so I don't feel like I lost too much money. I was also an original investor for Pier Solar, which was in fact a finished product. So when they launched their new site and everything, it seemed like they were much more established and that I definitely wouldn't have had to wait longer than I did for Pier Solar.

Obviously, I was wrong about the long wait. It's super annoying the way Fonzie has been handling this shit, but I'm still content to ride it out because I'd rather not have to pay 300 times the price to some scalper.

>>4758161
Any frog speakers wanna list some points made in this video, or is it the same kinda stuff about Fonzie not paying people which has already been posted?

>> No.4766836

>>4766283
>>4766625
Convention org asks fonzie/wm to come, wm asks for booth price, org offers it. WM accepts.
No news for a while (not even for planning/schedule), despite numerous org attempts contacting wm.
Suddently a reply, asking org to print flyers, banner and standup.
Org accepts (with its own money).
Still no news.
The very morning of convention, org brother gets a fucking VOICE MESSAGE from Fonzie.
The message is basically "I'm too busy lol, just put anyone"
The vid is just an exagerated "go fuck yourself wm" vent, he obviously cleaned everything. But the anger was real.
note that even wm pr could not get fonzie and her message says wm will not contest the faults.

>> No.4766885

>>4765229
They really didn't. They just slapped an FPGA onto the Pier Solar PCB. While the FPGA's bit code that is programmed onto it is their own design, they made it sound like they were gonna produce their own ASIC chips for Paprium.
They even set up a fake site for that shit http://datensemi.com/.. Just check the sites WHOIS entry and you'll see what i mean.

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>>4766885

>> No.4766924

>>4766914
Do you have that in non-baguette?

>> No.4766931

>>4766924
no, just ocr

>> No.4766949

>>4766625
>but I'm still content to ride it out
Same but this is the last time I'm ever buying anything from WM until I see Fonzie stop pulling this shit. Was hoping he'd learn from the Pier Solar reprint when the forums were losing their mind because it was late and with absolutely no word on progress but I guess not.

>> No.4766965

>>4766949
Since it seems that the only thing that gets his attention are mass demands for refunds, you might as well start now and start asking for one yourself.

>> No.4768621

At first paprika was scheduled to come out late 2015. Then 2016, Then september 2017. Then march/apil 2018. Now its supposed to come out oktober 2018.

I believe Fonzie has emotional issues. But i also believe he will release this thing at some point. If paprika is good that might save his face somehow. If its just mediocre he is done and dead in the water, as no one will ever want to work with him again.

>> No.4768627

>>4766885
>http://datensemi.com/

lol, that site looks like the old taiwanese GigaByte site. Totally ridiculous.

>> No.4768894

>>4757849
Project Y was a cooler name and that shitty trailer should have been a red flag for everyone.

>> No.4768991

>>4768894

How the fuck did Fonzie ever think Paprium was a good name?
Maybe it's a French thing and to him it sounds pretty brutal.

>le paprium, le best brawlah since the streets of rage!
>paprium, ze word alone conjurs up memories of strength.

>> No.4769791

Fonzie has pretty much comitted commericial suicide with this game. Nobody will buy from WM again and nobody will hire him lmao.

>> No.4769793

>putting money into kikestarters
Toplel

>> No.4769884

>>4769793
it was not even kickstarter
you had to buy gems, then buy/preorder with gems....

>> No.4769887

>>4769884
what the fuck? were you scammed or was I? I paid with currency

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>>4769887
I think it was to be investor, like 4 years ago (lol) it had to be gems.
Maybe when trailer hit it allowed money, I don't remember. But gems is/was a thing, see >>4762560

>> No.4770023

>>4769887

He paid waaay before you when you still had to "invest" in an unnamed project.
So what you did was turn your real money into digital money and then use that to buy "gems" which you could then invest into either project y (genesis) or project n (snes)
Then you had to vote what kinda game you thought it should be, and the strenght of your vote depended on how many gems you invested .

I'm pretty sure these guys were drunk when they thought this up.

>> No.4770135

>>4768991
>French thing to him it sounds pretty brutal

i lol'd

>> No.4772675

>>4769791
all he had to do was finish the damn game ffs

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>>4772675

>> No.4772894
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>>4770023
People ACTUALLY went for that? That sounds like some social experiment to test how insane a crowd funding campaign can be and still get money.

>> No.4772918

>>4772894
You'd think after all the ports and reprint of Pier Solar he'd already have enough money to fund a new game. This isn't even factoring in the shit homebrew WM published as well like Papi Commando.

>> No.4772928

>>4772876
kek

>>4772894
I'm totally speaking out of my ass here and don't know shit about anything, but my first thought when I read that was they did it to legally protect their scam. For instance, if some guy who bought the gems (in order to fund the game) decided to sue Fonz for not delivering the product they paid for, Fonzie would just have his lawyer go to the judge and say "umm they didn't buy a game, they bought virtual gems for voting ;)))"

Granted I'm not sure that could actually hold up, but just a thought.

>> No.4772998

>>4772928
>"umm they didn't buy a game, they bought virtual gems for voting"

That's how i always thought about this as well. It's so devious it could have been a microsoft strategy.

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>supporting indieshits

>> No.4774379

Fucking hell, I actually wanted this one.

>> No.4774403

>>4772928
That makes sense from the scammers' position, but I just can't get over the fact that there are people on this earth, right now that heard this proposal and thought, "I'll give money to this".

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>>4774403
Logically speaking you're right, but I don't think anyone expected to get scammed here considering they already released a fucking game. The (heavily edited) trailer looked great, though, I'm glad I was busy with wageslave stuff when this all happened. I'm worried I might've made a horrible decision if I wasn't.

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I'm just along for the ride now. The Datenmeister pitch made it sound like it was going to be a beefy fucking game and then it turned out that was a lie too.

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>> No.4776885

>>4776702
Can one really call a scam "bad" if it worked?

>> No.4776995

>>4776885
Well it hurts my feelings, at least.

>> No.4777039

>>4770023
>I'm pretty sure these guys were drunk when they thought this up.
Probably high af, and you know what stoners are like for procrastinating, hence why the game is taking so long.