/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4746270]

Draw your sword, Ramza.

[Anonymous No.4746363]

>>4746270
Fuck you, I'm going to run around the map just out of reach for 20 turns while casting Shout on myself instead.

[Anonymous No.4746474]

>>4746363
Is this the only viable strategy?

[Anonymous No.4746493]

>>4746270
Jesus christ I hated this battle.

[Anonymous No.4746529]

>>4746474
Equip something that nulls or absorbs Holy, and he won't use his Holy Sword skills on you. For whatever reason, the AI thinks those skills are Holy-elemental, when they actually take on the element (or lack thereof) of your equipped sword.

[Anonymous No.4746557]

Can any anon give some hints to someone who still haven't played FFT?

Is there any timed secret in this game that will make me hate myself for not using a guide?
Is the PSP port better than the original? I'm aware of the lag, and I already found a fix.

[Anonymous No.4746569]

>>4746557
>Is there any timed secret in this game that will make me hate myself for not using a guide?
No.
>Is the PSP port better than the original? I'm aware of the lag, and I already found a fix.
If you like purple prose, I guess.
Don’t overwrite your main save when the game prompts you to save between battles.

[Ramza No.4746657]

[Anonymous No.4746660]

>>4746474
You can just doublehand a spear and walk up to him and stab him from 2 squares away, outside of counter range. Move-HP up and HP Restore will take care of his damage. Equip the heaviest armor you have for big hapes.

[Anonymous No.4746664]

>>4746557
>is the PSP port better than the original?
The translation is entirely subjective. I like it a lot more but others swear by the original. Other than that point of contention, the PSP remake adds 2 mostly useless classes and 2 fun new characters, one of whom is very overpowered.

[Anonymous No.4746679]

>>4746657
Ramza youve been grinding your sword too much again.

[Anonymous No.4746740]

>>4746474
>>4746529
This is the cheater's bitch out meta-knowledge move.

What you're supposed to do is move without taking an action to get a higher CT value then him when he gets baited into moving and attacking on the same turn, then when your turn comes you can Act, then Move and Act, before he gets a turn.

There are people who spend the entire game acting every single time they move because of their precious JPs, and they never ever figure out how the game actually works even after they beat it.

[Anonymous No.4746757]

>>4746270
>tfw I built my ramza as an archer

[Anonymous No.4746768]

>>4746757
Mine was a two hands monk, I just walked up and punched him in the face

[Anonymous No.4746778]

>>4746757
Archael's solo archer run is some crazy shit

[Anonymous No.4746784]

Suggested advice for a new player? I don't wanna figure out the most busted ass strategies, I just want some general tips on how to play the game and not get stomped or make poor decisions.
Is the PSP version any good? Heard the framerate sucks but emulation fixes that.

[Anonymous No.4746814]

HP Restore reaction ability is criminally underrated.

[Anonymous No.4746834]

>>4746784
Just play it and keep multiple saves, there's only a handful of actual hard fights and one is only notorious because you can save yourself into a situation where you can't grind before a one on one with your MC

[Anonymous No.4746838]

>>4746557
there is a boss fight that is a massive casual check and you will want to end your life if you only have one save slot.

[Anonymous No.4746851]

>>4746784
Alternate save slots, keep your chapter 2 generics, steal EVERYTHING.

[Anonymous No.4747073]

>>4746778
do you have a link? I can't find it
I assume it's at least 3-4 years old since Archael allowed InsaneDifficulty to die 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.4747083]

>>4746270
>grind away and do lots of shit to get the best sword in the game

>get it

>the next boss you encounter uses "break," and it's gone

>re-set

>it happens again

[Anonymous No.4747102]

>>4746474
I did it back in the day relatively easily with no prior knowledge of the fight with Ramza as a Monk. I never even bothered with his Squire skills because I thought they were all crap.

[Anonymous No.4747125]

>>4747102
Monk is a pretty good job to take into the Wiegraf fight too

[Anonymous No.4747150]

is it supposed to be a style to draw normal people without a nose?

[Anonymous No.4747163]

>>4747150
it's simplified perspective, they do have noses when facing sideways

[Anonymous No.4747229]

Tactics Ogre or nothing you obvious babies.

[Anonymous No.4747231]

>>4747229
>make a team of Archers
>win the game
even worse than T.G. Cid

[Anonymous No.4747243]

>>4747231
I use ninjas and mages, one archer max (my other one died). You know the tactics ogre universe is far superior. Let it suck you in

[Anonymous No.4747246]

>>4747231
yeah and you get them right from the start, including canopus
not to mention the class system in either version is nowhere near as good as FFT's job system

[Anonymous No.4747249]

>>4747243
>You know the tactics ogre universe is far superior.
That's like saying A Song of Ice and Fire is superior, even though we both know that Tactics Ogre and ASOIAF will never be finished.

[Anonymous No.4747252]

>>4747102
That's exactly how I did it the first time. Same thing with the Squire skills and all. The first way I could say I "broke" the game was by picking up the two weapon skill from ninja so I could punch twice. That and Hamedo just destroying shit.

[Anonymous No.4747265]

>>4747249
I guess I'll post the rest here

[Anonymous No.4747267]

>>4747265
This is the pitch to Quest Corp, but then Matsuno wrote a ~60 page design document for the game itself

[Anonymous No.4747271]

>>4747267

[Anonymous No.4747283]

>>4747271

[Anonymous No.4747289]

>>4747283
Alright, last one I have that I downloaded from 4gamer so long ago

[Anonymous No.4747454]

>>4746474

Ninja + equip armor + auto potion

Just slice and dice this turd up

>>4746768
>Mfw

[Anonymous No.4747525]

>>4747271

this is some quality stuff. thanks for the dump.

[Anonymous No.4747542]

>>4746740
To be fair those JPs were a grindfest. Not sure why they changed the values for the US release.

[Anonymous No.4747548]

>>4746814
For this fight I would rely heavy on it. Total bummer when it dont kick in.

[Anonymous No.4747550]

Is there a handy quick list of useful info? For example:Samurai's skill is tied to magic. Or Archers gain stronger and longer attacks from higher altitudes.

[Anonymous No.4747563]

>>4746474
>>4747454
yeah there are a few ways to beat him without cheesing. Honestly I never used that method and it wasn't even until I read something on the internet that I discovered people got stuck on this battle. I don't even remember my original strategy, it was probably monk with concentrate (and yes, paying attention to CT>>4746740)

[Anonymous No.4747565]

>>4746557
Also going crazy on grinding can be fun but kind of ruins the main story battles, which are generally better than the random monster battles.

[Anonymous No.4747572]

>>4747550
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/197339-final-fantasy-tactics/faqs/3876
The Bible

[Anonymous No.4747648]

>>4747229
>make party of nothing but archers
>Tactics are Ogre

[Anonymous No.4747670]

>>4746270
Yells + Accumulate
omae wa mou shindeiru

[Anonymous No.4747676]

>>4747670
brilliant image

[Anonymous No.4747679]

>>4746270
*throws stone*

[Anonymous No.4747751]

What was the point of axes? Total garbage random damage.

[Anonymous No.4747753]

>>4747751
I thought flails were the ones with random damage?

[Anonymous No.4747771]

>>4746270
Fuck you, get fucking facetanked by knight with 2 swords and jump.

[Anonymous No.4747797]

why didnt you save her

[Anonymous No.4747817]

>>4747797
I actually have a painting of this scene hanging over my desk, but I can't find it online for the life of me since it was a gift

[Anonymous No.4747825]

>>4747753
Axes, flails and handbags

[Anonymous No.4747828]

>>4747797
Never forget who ordered her murder

[Anonymous No.4747835]

>>4747542
you're not supposed to buy every ability anon

[Anonymous No.4747836]

>>4747751
You could get really high WP really early on.

This was useful when you were using techniques that sourced the weapon's WP stat instead of using the attack formula of the Axe which was actually responsible for it's random damages. Throwing Axes, for example, is extremely effective.

[Anonymous No.4747841]

>>4747828
He meant for him to try to shoot the terrorist knowing that she would die in the suicide explosion if he pressed the situation harder, and he wasn't going to get another shot.

Algus shot her directly in the heart. He could have hit that guy in the head easily, he just didn't want to.

Zalbag immediately moves forward from the situation and lets the kids sort it out themselves while he makes his way to yet another battlefield.

[Anonymous No.4748182]

>>4747125
Monk is meh, even with duel because your losing out on your head slot and some speed growths. Ninja with unarmed work much better, the only thing you really lose out on is rez and chakra.

Without resorting to squire you can get holy absorb gear and beat through him. Use a chemist or mediator with tele to outrange him and act as a healer for phase 2. 1 round him with ninja and a decently leveled ramza. Teleporting calc. Ninja spear build jump him. Break power him into worthlessness. Tele quickcast summoner. And a few other jank builds.

Its all about getting off the initial bridge your on and staying out of h sword reach. The real benefit of the yell/accum build is that you also destroy phase 2 which is nasty

[Anonymous No.4748905]

>>4747676
mustadio's child?

[Anonymous No.4748910]

>>4747229
the chronicle valeria hack is by far the best version of TO I played (playd the SNES and PSP versions)
such a shame it's never getting translated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5hL6yZt0Nk

[Anonymous No.4749058]

>>4747751
The random damage could sometimes be far higher than any other weapon you could get at the time. That can easily mean the difference between a kill shot or not, which is tactically relevant.

If a chocobo is going to run away heal up next turn regardless, you might not care about any damage that doesn't result in a kill. A sword might have 0% chance of getting a kill shot, while the Axe might at least have a 25% chance.

[Anonymous No.4749285]

>>4747525
You're welcome, here's some more random stuff

Wish I had time to learn Nip, but at least we can both enjoy old photos.

[Anonymous No.4749286]

>>4749285

[Anonymous No.4749287]

>>4749286

[Anonymous No.4749289]

>>4749287
That's it

[Anonymous No.4749356]

>>4746474
I teleported around and cast Thundaga a bunch of times.

[Anonymous No.4749629]

>>4749058
Randumb weapons perform worse on average than normal ones. There is no tactical relevancy in sheer luck.

[Anonymous No.4749637]

>>4746270

[Anonymous No.4749757]

>>4749629
>There is no tactical relevancy in risk-taking
Hard to believe someone can be this stupid and bad at math.

[Anonymous No.4751667]

What's it gonna take for us to get a new Tactics? Blood magic on a 9/11 scale?

[Anonymous No.4751671]

>>4751667
it's pretty easy to make one now

[Anonymous No.4751676]

>>4746270
*laughs in monk*

[Anonymous No.4751679]

>>4751676
brainlet

[Anonymous No.4753246]

>>4751671
how so? they seem like they would be pretty complex to design

[Anonymous No.4753350]

>>4753246
There's an entire set of bby mode tools for romhacking FFT and the heuristic AI adapts to any changes made to the ability libraries if you use the proper flags. The most complicated thing you need to do is some basic assembly hacking that uses instructions already in the game.

All the work has been done and people already know to make their own 3D maps and sprites and ability effects and reprogram the damage formulas.

So you could make a brand new FFT in the same engine and it wouldn't really be that difficult, only half as time consuming as making a game usually is.

[Anonymous No.4753591]

>>4753350

really does make you think. Though I think Matsuno as a creative eye, especially the diorama focus on level design and how he present encounters. it's why none of the Advanced follow ups have memorable encounters or meaningful levels. A fan game would probably feel flat in those aspects as well as presenting new math and formulas.

I personally think someone should reprogram Blade Grasp to universally use Algus' Shrug animation.

[Anonymous No.4753856]

>>4747102
>>4747252
Being a ninja with monk skills a bit of enhancement from certain equipment makes this fight trivial

[Anonymous No.4754219]

>>4753350
>There's an entire set of bby mode tools for romhacking FFT and the heuristic AI adapts to any changes made to the ability libraries if you use the proper flags.
Yeah but didn't insanedifficulty go down? And FFHacktics is like dead?

[Anonymous No.4754228]

>>4753591
it's very important to never put an actual meme inside your actual game anon

only OC is good

[Anonymous No.4754231]

>>4754219
>Yeah but didn't insanedifficulty go down? And FFHacktics is like dead?
I literally just went to the site and it seems like it's still there

so literally just go steal their tools and make the game you want to play you lazy shit

[Anonymous No.4754236]

>>4754219
>only 10 monks
YOU HAD ONE JOB

[Anonymous No.4754252]

Say what you want about War of the Lions, getting to murder Algus a second time as a zombo is pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.4754258]

>>4754252
>Say what you want about War of the Lions, getting to murder Algus a second time as a zombo is pretty funny.
this almost makes me want to play it but then I remember the fucking dialogue and how angry it makes me

[Anonymous No.4754265]

>>4754258
Why do people hate it, again?

[Anonymous No.4754303]

>>4754231
>I literally just went to the site
No you didn't, you went to NG+

[Anonymous No.4754305]

>>4754265
They're plebians, it's way better

[Anonymous No.4754327]

>>4746270
>you beat the game without looking at guides

[Anonymous No.4754330]

>>4754258
>I remember the fucking dialogue and how angry it makes me
because you're illiterate?

[Anonymous No.4754346]

>>4754265
One legitimate complain was that spell and summon animations were God awfully slowed down on PSP
Everything else just sounds like autism and muh nostalgia

[Anonymous No.4754347]

>>4754265
mayhap their minds are gripped with memories of days long past when adulthood seemed so distant
thus they have eyes only for the original translation
*chokes on phallus*

[Anonymous No.4754350]

>>4754303

[Anonymous No.4754353]

>>4754330
because it's terrible

[Anonymous No.4754369]

>>4754353
The original translation on PSX is also more accurate. Ramza is a man who literally screams "Geronimo!!!" in all katakana in the Japanese version. It never even came close to taking itself so seriously as the PSP translation does. Which is so over the top and way beyond anything that was in Vagrant Story (which is perfect) that it's completely unbearable to even imagine a human being that's capable of typing that garbage.

WotL is so dry and pretentious that it chokes on it's own cock.

[Anonymous No.4754374]

>>4754369
The PSP version straight-up changes a ton of characters' names for no reason, too. Like, I know the PS1 version has a lot of translation issues, but the names are actually more accurate overall in that version.

[Anonymous No.4754432]

>>4754369
>Animals have no god!!
will always be the best line

[Anonymous No.4754456]

>>4754369
>WotL is so dry and pretentious that it chokes on it's own cock.
In the same way that a third grader would find War & Peace dry, that's just an indication of brainlet tier taste in media

The only thing wrong with WotL is that it removed iconic lines of dialogue.

[Anonymous No.4754573]

>>4747835
If I wasn't supposed to buy every ability, they would have set a maximum attainable value for JP. They set no such limit, so I wasn't gonna limit myself.

[Anonymous No.4755030]

>>4754456
war and peace can be important all day long it's still a boring ass book

[Anonymous No.4755850]

>>4754456

Holy fucking shit brainlet. Let's put aside that I doubt you've even read much Tolstoy, let alone enough to tell us about his "masterful prose" during long slogging Napoleonic War recaps. What Tolstoy gives you is a fucking panorama of humanity, its foibles, the Russian spirit always in decay, the Birth of new Beauty and Love.. but it isn't his prose you're getting that though.

- Cause you're not a fucking Ruski and you're reading a sloggy translation, just like FFT. If the PSX translation is more faithful to original intent I don't think its unfair to prefer it to something like a later reprint that changes Russian name suffix's from -sky to -ski. Obviously WotL is more drastic a change than that, but translations are all a slippery slope. Malicious intent is softened by tone in the new prose and it effects the more "brutal" characters of FFT. WotL has postgame content though and that's a plus as a game, and more classes.

just play a FFT hack and try new classes combos. Experiment and enjoy the game, really.

[Anonymous No.4755940]

>>4747797
Not my fault she specialized in a job that has Auto Dead

[Anonymous No.4756501]

>>4754456
Hamlet would be a better comparison than War & Peace. And Shakespeare, WotL is not. WotL is stylistic ostentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=easWqy08wr8

[Anonymous No.4756553]

>>4756501
I'm not talking about style, I'm talking about brainlets whining that it's huffing its own farts. FFT's original script (besides the iconic lines like "animals have no gods") is an utter fucking trainwreck of garbage.

Do you guys seriously think "Fire Bracelet" is a dragon attack, or that the ice/flame gun mistranslation is acceptable? Or this gem of a screenshot, that actually might confuse a first-timer? FFT's original translation was done internally by amateurs, and it shows

[Anonymous No.4756658]

>>4756553
>I'm not talking about style, I'm talking about brainlets whining that it's huffing its own farts
Dumbass, if you're responding to people complaining that WotL ia huffing its own farts, you are talking about style.

Yes, there are a lot of mistakes in the original translation. They're embarrassing but also easily noted. Every single one you list, I recognized as a mistranslation and was not confused. Meanwhile, the language in the retranslation intrudes and changes the tone and feel of every single line of dialog in the entire script.

So no, retard, nobody seriously thinks those translations are "acceptable," a binary term of binary thinker like yourself. They will, however, tolerate those mistakes to have the rest of the functional dialog be simple and free of pretentious elaboration.

[Anonymous No.4756665]

>>4756658
>huffing its own farts, you are talking about style.
Do you think there's only one type of fart-huffing retard? Particularistic matters like "this is Shakespearean" or "this is Old English" don't matter. You're simply too much of a child to understand how much the retranslation fixed things.

I can't believe someone is seriously touting a script translated by barely literate japs as "better" because half the time it's more "accurate" and the other half the time it's incoherent garbage due to their high school tier level of English (being generous). All because you're a brainlet who can't follow actual eloquent English. For shame.

[Anonymous No.4756725]

>>4756553
There's a rush job and then there's a bad job

you need to learn the difference

[Anonymous No.4756732]

>>4756665
I can't think of a single time the script in FFT is actually incoherent

honestly the ways in which it bends english grammar are beautiful at times

[Anonymous No.4756757]

>>4756725
>and then there's a bad job
Yeah, having your internal staff try to translate a game into English without being fluent in the language is a detour into that particular category.
Most of Square's games from that era go this way, because they cheaped out. I'm glad they're spending more money on translation and not so glad that their design/mechanics are shit now. There's no point translating a bad game.

[Anonymous No.4756765]

>>4756658
>So no, retard
>>4756665
>you're a brainlet

I see tensions still run high in the re-translation / original camps.

[Anonymous No.4756772]

>>4756725

You should probably try to read off the main script. Duran reports, and Bar Quest flavour text is a mess that WotL does fix. But I dunno why this niggas so upset about Fire Bracelet and untranslated Monster Skills. That's.. real autism.

[Anonymous No.4756782]

>>4756772
Oh it's a heck of a mess but it's not -incoherent-.

[Anonymous No.4757368]

>that day i spent a whole afternoon stealing the Genji equipment from Elmdor

[Anonymous No.4757380]

Easiest way for me when Wiegraf sodomized me was to take the dragoon job. Never invested in it but the game was easy enough to read that all you needed was the basic jump command. Walk towards wiegraf, turn your defenseless back to him and use jump on the dpot behind Ramza's back. Wiegraf will always target Ramza's back and he will miss since you jumped and then landed on him for big damage. Rinse and repeat for a victory with zero damage taken.

[Anonymous No.4757809]

>>4757380
his name is Wiegraf Wiglaf, not Goomba

[Anonymous No.4758961]

>>4746657
>Draw my peanus weanus :D

[Anonymous No.4759092]

>>4747231
That's Thunder motherfucking God Cid to you Private retard Lloyd!

[Anonymous No.4759098]

>>4746270
>mfw my Chemist Corps started to equip pistols
Damn I loved FFT. I literally held onto my PS1 so I could play it. Too bad Squaresoft never followed up on it but then again their faggotry knows no bounds.

[Anonymous No.4760132]

>>4749757
Consistent damage > rng

[Anonymous No.4760268]

>>4746557
there's lag in the psp version?

[Anonymous No.4760281]

>>4760268
There's a slowdown every time someone attacks.
The game runs at 60 fps, but it drops to 30 fps whenever there's some animation, and the game often stutters during those framerate changes. Even opening the menu makes the game drop to 30 fps.

You know you did a shitty job when your port runs worse than the original game emulated on the PSP.

[Anonymous No.4760361]

>>4760132
Still the wrong question to ask. The question is how much predictable damage vs how much unpredictable damage do you want on your team. You can take 5 characters into most battles, don't have to give them all the same weapon.

[Anonymous No.4760389]

>>4756665
>Particularistic
Finding a pointless stylistic affect to be distracting is not particularism and is in fact a common sentiment.
>You're simply too much of a child to understand how much the retranslation fixed things.
I personally like the WotL translation and actually enjoyed its elaborate style. But I can understand why people don't like it and it has nothing to do at all with whether it's comprehensible or not.
>can't follow actual eloquent English
You can't make any point beyond straw manning "defenders" of the original translation and sperging out about specific mistakes that nobody denies.