/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.4745846]

Which is the hardest game you've ever beaten?

[Anonymous No.4745861]

>>4745846
Any of the Contras

[Anonymous No.4745862]

>>4745846
Super Metroid: Redesign on a real SNES was one of the more challenging games.

[Anonymous No.4745863]

probably dragon quest 2

[Anonymous No.4745867]

VS Super Mario Bros, no skips, on a real arcade machine
Not the hardest game ever but I'm still proud

[Anonymous No.4745872]

>>4745846
Ecco

[Anonymous No.4745876]

Lost Levels, X Multiply, Gradius III, Radiant Silvergun, R-Type, all the Castlevanias pre-SOTN.

[Anonymous No.4745880]

Yoshi's Story

[Anonymous No.4745885]

>>4745846
Probably one of the Rockman Zero games. I think 2 is the hardest, IIRC.

[Anonymous No.4745887]

Maybe Megaman 3 or Kid Icarus, I don't really like games that are too hard.

[Anonymous No.4745893]

Probably Makaimura Rev. G.

[Anonymous No.4745904]

>>4745846
Maybe the romhack for Super Mario 64, Super Mario 74. FFVI Brave New World was fairly challenging for a JRPG as well. Beat Adventures of Lolo 1 and 2 a few weeks ago, those are pretty hard without a guide. Also it's not /vr/ but I did get 100% achievements on Rogue Legacy, which yea, most of it isn't that impressive because you can technically grind for it but I did do the optional challenge bosses which force you into set builds.

[Anonymous No.4745908]

I rarely played arcade games growing up, so for me it was mostly NES games and then the harder Genesis games like Ecco.

Also not retro but the DS Castlevania games with hard mode lvl 1 cap is probably the toughest since those days. I'm more into multiplayer games for challenge nowadays.

[Anonymous No.4745932]

>>4745880
Just story mode or you mean getting perfect score in each of the 24 levels?

[Anonymous No.4745940]

I played mostly RPGs all my life so there's hardly any difficulty in most games, actual difficult ones I've beaten would be Romancing SaGa 2 and SRW 3 both in japanese

[Anonymous No.4745950]

Probably Batman vs Robocop for the Genesis or that hidden snail game you can play when you turn on the sega master system without a cartridge and press up and both buttons

[Anonymous No.4745957]

>>4745932
story

[Anonymous No.4745969]

>>4745846
From /vr/ era from the top of my head: Zelda 2. In other words, I'm a casual.

[Anonymous No.4745973]

>>4745846
The Terminator for NES. Incredibly difficult once you go to the past and not enjoyable in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.4745979]

Probably one of the Gradius games. III's difficulty gets talked up a lot, but IV and Salamander 2 are no jokes either.

[Anonymous No.4746000]

>>4745846
Hard to say, but >>4745861 Contra: Hard Corps is up there.

[Anonymous No.4746018]

>>4745846
Ninja Gaiden probably

[Anonymous No.4746035]

>>4745846
I can 1cc time crisis 1 - 3 on a good day

[Anonymous No.4746050]

>>4745885
I thought the first was way more of a pain in the ass the way the lives worked. There were definitely very hard parts in all of them, though.

[Anonymous No.4746053]

>>4745908
POR? I still have to do lvl 1. Did lv 25.

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4746058]

I dunno NES Ghosts N Goblins? In the last year I've beaten Shiryo Sensen and Getsu Fuuma Den. I should really give Majuu Ou a serious attempt soon.

[Anonymous No.4746067]

>>4746050
I think Z1 is a bit easier just because of how simple it is to abuse the combo system. You can just keep chaining attacks together as long as you don't use a finisher.

[Anonymous No.4746070]

>>4745846
Rayman

[Anonymous No.4746183]

Ninja Gaiden 1 or 2, or maybe even 8 Eyes. Those are the 3 from my childhood I remember having the most difficulty with.

I would say Bayou Billy but I don't recall if I ever beat it legitimately

[Anonymous No.4746187]

>>4745846
Either Kid Chameleon - which is mostly a test of endurance.
or Mario the Lost Levels - but I played this on the wii so I didn't have to beat it in one go.

[Anonymous No.4746238]

King's Field 2.

[Anonymous No.4746837]

I don't even really find it that difficult, to be honest.
Also Milon's secret castle and Fester's quest.
Honestly all you really need to beat these is some time and patience.

>>4746058
>Getsu Fuuma Den.
Great game, kind of a hidden gem, but kinda hard at times.
I had beaten it once a few years ago, picked it up again just recently.
Man, I don't know how I beat it the first time. I think a walkthrough is mandatory.
Especially for the mazes.

[Anonymous No.4746842]

Bucky O Hare

[Anonymous No.4746859]

You have to burn the rope

[Anonymous No.4746887]

Fuck this game, fuck this game. Ffffffuck this game. Shitty collision made it insufferable and everything was just turned up to absolute difficulty.

[Anonymous No.4746902]

>>4745908
>>4745872
Ecco is considered a hard game on Genesis now? It's barely in the top 100 hardest.

[Anonymous No.4746918]

Off the top of my head I'm not sure. irl people are impressed I beat Contra without the code and only died twice on the last level. I grew up with Kid Icarus as well so I actually find that game to be pretty easy. It's hard to say because normies will be amazed that I can pretty consistently beat Earthworm Jim 1 & 2 but on this forum it's probably not a big deal.

>>4746842

I beat this as a kid. Great game. I remember it being fairly challenging. I should play it again.

I've also beat some tough modern games. Wipeout HD's platinum was brutal. Mega Man 10's Mr Perfect was fairly tough as well. I wish we could get some kind of trophy system for old games where the achievements are based on challenge instead of grinding bullshit. Maybe Sega will make it happen with the Dreamcast 2. I can dream right?

[Anonymous No.4746954]

>>4745846
DodonPachi, one credit

[Anonymous No.4746987]

for those of you who matriculated highschool an beyond could anyone provide a good anaolgy of games?

like games that you've beaten that were as hard as
getting your high school diploma
getting your undergraduate degree
getting your trade certification
getting your masters degree
finishing your doctoral thesis

[Anonymous No.4747115]

>>4746902
>It's barely in the top 100 hardest.
What are you even talking about? It's #68, I'd hardly call that "barely in the top 100". Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4747123]

People claim battletoads for NES was hard, but I have no issue completing it with no deaths and no warps
Ninja Gaiden is the hardest game I completed that actually felt hard.

[Anonymous No.4747136]

>>4746987
If you play a game for hours a day for years and can't beat it, maybe it's time to stop. High school's more like grinding in WoW or something, though.

[Anonymous No.4747145]

F-Zero GX Beat everything.
I gained my NEET status that summer

[Anonymous No.4747146]

>>4746902
Outside of a couple bits Ecco really isn't that hard, it just takes patience under pressure in a way that's unusual for old games.

I consider a lot of the action games on the system like Gaiares or even Comix Zone harder overall.

Mine would probably be Rogue considering it was pre-spoilers .

[Anonymous No.4747259]

>>4747115

#68? Did vr make a list of hardest games or something?

I'm tired as fuck and realize I could be getting trolled but fuck it, I figured I'd ask anyway.

[Anonymous No.4747594]

>>4746902
Ecco definitely wasn't easy.
Last level in particular was exceptionally hard and if you lost the boss fight (which you're likely to do given that the vortex queen can instakill you by eating you and you're forced to go within the range where you're vulnerable to that move if you want to do damage to the jaw since it's invulnerable to the sonar attack) you'd have to go through the whole level again.
What Genesis games do you consider hard?

[Anonymous No.4747605]

>>4747259
There are many hardest games lists out there and Ecco is on a lot of them.
It's not anywhere near as weird of an opinion as you're pretending it is

[Anonymous No.4747629]

Cleared the entire classic Mega Man Series with no e-tanks and just the uncharged buster outside of forced usage of utilities/weapons (I.e. you have to use the magnet beam in MM1 in the room between the footholders and yellow devil, bubble lead on alien wily in MM2, etc.)

I don’t play too many already “hard” games, I prefer doing challenge runs on Normal games like Mega Man and such. Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out is the only truly hard game I’ve beaten, and I still think beating wily in Mega Man 7 without e-tanks or special weapons was harder than punch-out

[Anonymous No.4747741]

>>4745885
>those zero fights
>the zero fight in zx
I kept a save there just so I could fight those over again

I beat Zelda 2 on real hardware.

The most fun I had with a hard game was la mulana though

[babbage's gramps !RATGzMALLY No.4747776]

>>4746837
The first person mazes? Yeah they can chip away at your health pretty bad even though they follow the "pick a wall and follow it" logic. It helps when you realize all those first person enemies have a weakness even though it doesn't ALWAYS work.

[Anonymous No.4748545]

>>4745846
Ghosts n' Goblins

[Anonymous No.4748848]

>>4746887
Never beat it but by God I tried.

[Anonymous No.4749131]

Ghouls and ghosts

[Anonymous No.4749136]

Come to think of it, I've never really beat a hard game. I beat all the easy ones and spent years of my life playing Final Fantasies, but I would pick up Contra or Castlevania, die and go "oh that was a cool game" and go back to Mario World.

[Anonymous No.4749137]

>>4746902
>if i pretend it was easy people on a mongolese basket weaving forum will think im a cool hardcore gamer

[Anonymous No.4749149]

Spiderman and the X-Men Arcade's Revenge on Super Nintendo

[Anonymous No.4749187]

>>4749136
Wait, I've got one! SaGa Frontier

[Anonymous No.4749408]

>>4749149
Bro, me too. I had the flu when I was a kid and missed a week of skool. Did it then.
Tough game.

[Anonymous No.4749719]

>>4749137
Have you played it?

[Anonymous No.4750034]

>>4746887
Worst part about this game was I got good enough to beat each level but could do them all in one sitting

[Anonymous No.4750168]

>>4749719
Yes. We all played Ecco (except the ones who had SNES and no Genesis I guess) and it was in fact a pretty difficult game.
Go look up hardest games lists, Ecco's frequently included.

[Anonymous No.4750170]

>>4750168
to be fair it's hard for retro games to really compete after dark souls raised the bar so high, and bloodborne even further

if you showed league of legends to a gamer in the 90s their heads would explode!

[Anonymous No.4750172]

>>4750170
I think you're trying to make a joke but I don't know what any of that crap you mentioned is so I can't tell for sure.

[Anonymous No.4750226]

>>4745846
That Godzilla NES game that AVGN couldn't beat...I don't know why he had such a tough time with it...maybe he didn't know how to move around on the board properly or something?

[Anonymous No.4750287]

>>4750168
Ohh it's one of, maybe my favorite old game, I was just curious.

>>4750170
>>4750172
Souls games are meh, but Monster Hunter is legit awesome.

[Anonymous No.4750296]

Shadow of the Beast on the genesis. That game is bullshit hard.

[Anonymous No.4750352]

>>4747123
first Ninja Gaiden's difficulty is mostly bullshit you have to know is coming to counter it. then that final boss that makes you go through the hardest level again every time you fail to its 2nd form until you figure out when you need to attack to not get nailed by the hitbox

Ninja Gaiden 2 is a more genuine experience

[Anonymous No.4750364]

>>4750352
Ninja gaiden games were memorization - get a pattern set and you can beat them without continuing. Except for maybe 3 that USA version is bullshit

[Anonymous No.4750368]

>>4750364
Snore

[Anonymous No.4750383]

>>4750168
To clarify though, I wasn't the original person claiming it was easy. Outside of a few quite hard bits I don't think it's overall super difficult. It just has a very different kind of difficulty than most games.

[Anonymous No.4750389]

>>4747605

I wasn't the same poster. I was just wondering where the #68 came from. I've actually never played Ecco. I always thought it looked pretty fun though.

[Anonymous No.4750457]

>>4750389
Ecco is a pretty awesome underwater Metroid-like. Good production values (especially in Ecco 2 which is gorgeous) and reasonable difficulty except for a few scrolling levels (Welcome to The Machine, Tube of Medusa). It's even got multiple endings and shit. Just don't bother with Junior and Defender of the Future, those are shovelware made by unrelated people.

[Anonymous No.4750464]

Unrelated to this thread, and I don't know where else to ask this, but seeing as /vr/ knows a lot about CRT's I was wondering if anyone knows if the typical low bitrate movie rips that have artifacts in darker scenes and in fast motion are masked better on a 480i CRT TV.

[Anonymous No.4750480]

>>4750464
Ask in the CRT thread >>4724804

[Anonymous No.4750490]

>>4745846
Ikari Warriors. Think it took 2-3 months attempting daily.

[Anonymous No.4750493]

I guess lost levels but I never considered that a particularly hard game; don't get me wrong, I'm kinda bad at games, there's plenty of games that I could never beat as a kid that /vr/ doesn't consider hard so I never understood why that game has that reputation.
NES TMNT: was a huge turtles spaz so I just played it over and over until I got gud
Blast Corps 100% platinum medals: some of those plat times are fuckin hard

[Anonymous No.4750515]

Hmm, maybe Rondo of Blood? I didn't thibk it was THAT hard thanks to the save/password system, but it was definitely challenging.

I find it easier to play games that are hard, but you can break into chunks like that rather than something like Shinobi 3 where it's back to the start when you die. I find that game incredibly difficult by comparison.

Bloodlines is another Castlevania that's tough, but really good that I finished. I did end up using passwords with lives instead of my own to beat later levels, so doesn't really count.

God Hand doesn't count here because it's too new, but that game is one of my favourite hard games I've beaten

[Anonymous No.4750521]

>>4745876
Came to say the lost levels too.

[Anonymous No.4750546]

I beat every megaman boss with just the buster for every megaman game on the nes. beat ninja gaiden trilogy. beat ninja gaiden black on xbox including the dlc bosses. beat baldurs gate 1 back in 1998

[Anonymous No.4750552]

>>4750546
the only reason I did all this was because I didnt know you could cheese the bosses with weaknesses btw

[Anonymous No.4750554]

Super C

[Anonymous No.4750615]

>>4750464
>>>/g/ wares pup.

[Anonymous No.4750616]

>>4745846
Probably one of the following
Lost levels
Little Nemo
Yo Noid
Tiny Toons Adventures (nes)
The Lion King(genesis)
Adventure Island 3

[Anonymous No.4750778]

>>4750457
>Ecco is a pretty awesome underwater Metroid-like.

It's almost nothing like metroid.

[Anonymous No.4750825]

>>4750296
Congrats. Great thing is that the Genesis version is sped up compared to the original Amiga one.

[Anonymous No.4750839]

>>4745846
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out.

Hardest game I played but never beat was probably the original X-Wing for PC. I made it to at least the first death star mission, but never made it to the trench run.

Another hard game I never beat was the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

>>4750170
Dark Souls is my favorite game of all time, but on raw difficulty it's not much harder than the hard NES games, especially since you can increase soul level to make things easier on yourself. I'm not sure there's anything that compares to Ornstein and Smough on the NES, but tbqh that fight can be annoyingly cheap. Gwyn is hard, but not any harder than Mike Tyson from Punch-Out.

[Anonymous No.4750950]

>>4745846
Off the top of my head probably Comix Zone or the second Ninja Gaiden. I'm kind of really shit at games, so after a certain baby level they're all hard to me.

[Anonymous No.4751042]

I have no idea honestly. Maybe Combat Cars? As a kid I used cheats whenever possible and wasn't good, later I used savestates, now I play fair but have no patience to complete the game all the way.
How do you even define difficulty? Is it number of time you have to retry the same content? It's very subjective.

[Anonymous No.4751043]

>>4745846
I’ve never actually beaten a single game because I suck at gaming

[Anonymous No.4751064]

>>4751042
I think a good metric is which game required you to learn the most before you mastered it enough to beat it on a single life.

[Anonymous No.4751101]

US Dracula's Curse
NES Batman
Zelda 2

Not the toughest but I'm proud of them

[Anonymous No.4751106]

What is the Dark Souls of /vr/?

[Anonymous No.4751174]

>>4751106
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

[Anonymous No.4751183]

Phantasy Star II

Batman NES

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 NES using full scroll weapon per turtle.

Non-/vr/ Otogi 1 (final boss is an asshole)

[Anonymous No.4751214]

>>4751106

[Anonymous No.4751326]

>>4751214
Seconded. I nearly beat the third game as a kid, but never could do anything but struggle and die in the first areas in the first two.

[Anonymous No.4751428]

Well it was weird game, you start out in a rocky wasteland with nobody around, you have no inventory, and none oft he buttons did anything but make you jump, you eventually encounter a weird little man but trying to interact with him only results in him killing you. I couldn't make it past him.

[Anonymous No.4751749]

>>4751101
You should be pretty proud of draculas curse bro

[Anonymous No.4751809]

>>4749136
>>4749136
oh fuck this is me to a goddamn T
now im gonna go play super mario RPG or shining force 2 for the bazillionth time

[Anonymous No.4751820]

>>4749187
anon that's the easiest SaGa game and can you honestly say you didn't just use the Scrap trick/Gold trick/Overdrive/DSC which are basically automatic win buttons for casuals?

[Anonymous No.4751825]

>>4751809
did you at least beat it on OUCH! mode so you could meet the kawaii witchfu

[Anonymous No.4751828]

>>4751825
did i not just admit to never beating hard games?

[Anonymous No.4751837]

I thought Battletoads was a very hard game, but after some times playing it I can pretty much beat it easily, since the game is based around memorization and some parts are hard because of the instant death stuff.
For me shooting games are hard because you have to move constantly and avoid hazards.

[Anonymous No.4751967]

>>4745846
Bubsy 3D

[Anonymous No.4751975]

Battle toads for sure
>>4745846

[Anonymous No.4751980]

>>4751967
That's just masochistic

[Anonymous No.4752784]

Crash Bandicoot 1 100% was a real fucker. Otherwise Super Mario Kart 150cc as Bowser. Since the game has fixed "rival" characters and Bowser's are Mario and Luigi. The brothers have unlimited stars and insane speeds.

[Anonymous No.4752794]

>half life
>hard mode
Fuck that. This kind of shit made me realize, just because you’re playing a ‘hard game’ doesn’t mean it’s, or you’re, cool. I just want to have fun. Holy shit...
Yeah I beat the fucking thing, but jesus...

[Anonymous No.4754026]

>>4746887
qft.
I've beaten IWTBTG, Battletoads, NES CVs & Ninja Gaidens, Silver Surfer, and I've 1cc'd Contra Hard Corps and Touhou 6+7 as well as the obligatory ironman DaS stuff, but Virtual Bart can die in a fucking fire.

[Anonymous No.4754097]

>>4752794
Half Life hard mode isn't even that bad. FPS games basically need to be beaten on hard mode for the best experience.

[Anonymous No.4755307]

>>4754097
>Half Life hard mode isn't even that bad.

[Anonymous No.4755345]

>>4755307
how are you this shit at fucking half life

[Anonymous No.4755361]

The ninja gaiden trilogy, nes castlevanias and 1cc'd metal slug x.

[Anonymous No.4755450]

Took a while.

[Anonymous No.4755494]

>>4755345
I’m fucking great at fps, that game on that mode was just, well, really really fucking insanely hard surprise surprise. My favorite fps series with a story mode by far but that shit was on a whole other level. If you weren’t baiting and actually played it you’d realize what hell is. Having to save at every single little point and literally taking the game one step at a time.

[Anonymous No.4755502]

>>4755450
The MegaDrive version has fucked up hitboxes, no wonder it was hard.

[Anonymous No.4755637]

What part of what Mario game is OP's image referring to?

[Anonymous No.4758291]

I had to come back to this as an adult to finally beat it. It was well worth it, as a child I remember wanting to get the lightsaber so bad, but I couldn't get past the third sand level.

[Anonymous No.4758613]

According to other people: Zelda II, any of the King's Field games. I didn't think they were that hard, but some people let on like they're impossible.

Personally, I would say anything I've 1CCed in the Gradius series. Shoot-'em-ups require a lot of practice and autism. I've yet to finish Gradius III arcade or Gradius V. The gaming 'tism has started to wane as I've gotten older.

Also, I can speedrun Gargoyle's Quest in about 30 minutes.

[Anonymous No.4758624]

>>4745846
Codename Viper.

Fucking last guy is a dickhole.

[Anonymous No.4758636]

>>4751326
In the third one it's all about tapping the jump button often and only really pressing it for long wide jumps, the recognizance of the jump button is mushy in this game but if you get that part down the challenges are way easier.

Also the hitboxes are weird but easily exploitable to beat the challenge bosses too, focus more on down and sword to attack vs forward and sword. The patterns are there if you study them too.

[Anonymous No.4758638]

>>4746887
oh boy this piece of shit
i only rented it and, no surprise, did not beat it
the only scenario i remember beating was the water slide, because i think it was always the same maze so you could memorize the turns
or maybe i got lucky who knows

[Anonymous No.4758645]

>>4758613
>According to other people: Zelda II
Oh my god, this.
When did everyone suddenly decide Zelda 2 was more than just fairly challenging and start thinking it was borderline impossible? I beat it when I was 8.

[Anonymous No.4759068]

>>4745846
Probably Super Ghouls n Ghosts.

[Anonymous No.4759069]

>>4745969
Really? Because I’ve beaten a lot of shit /vr/ considers hard, but Zelda 2 kicks my ass.

[Anonymous No.4759337]

Street Fighter 2010

[Anonymous No.4759342]

>>4754097
>FPS games basically need to be beaten on hard mode for the best experience.
I don't think so. Maybe 2.5D FPS games like Doom, but in 3D it becomes too easy to exploit mechanics, especially AI.

[Anonymous No.4759351]

>>4759342
So how does that mean they shouldn't be played on hard??

[Anonymous No.4759358]

Bart Simpson vs the World

Shitfest of a game

[Anonymous No.4759361]

>>4758645
ok for once I'm gonna gripe about this I'm shit at games and I'm shit at Zelda 2 but even I can recognize that obviously it's within limits of doable
it's not that hard a game what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4759436]

>>4759351
It results in player abusing mechanics, while in medium difficulty you play around as intended, roleplaying to some sort.