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4741185 No.4741185 [Reply] [Original]

Just beat this game, still amazing after 20 years

>> No.4741189

This game is absolutely perfect

>> No.4741210

Thanks for killing a thread with this useless opinion.

>> No.4741216
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>>4741210
you're welcome

>> No.4741253

I agree with OP but have nothing else to add, just want to show solidarity

>> No.4741256
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It has a great game over screen

>> No.4741262

>Nip version of a Bong game
What did he mean by that?

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>>4741185
Was it on purpose?

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Op here, just realized I posted the wrong image.

>> No.4741323

>>4741319
get out of here in 0.5 a presses

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>>4741323
I'll groundpound you into a parallel universe irl.

>> No.4741410

>>4741319
Why not both?

>> No.4741415

>>4741325
I'm gonna build speed for 12 hours before i beat the shit outta you

>> No.4742053

The shitposting in /vr/ is slightly smarter than /v/'s, but it's still bad. That said, I'm curious as to how the dialogue differs in Banjo Kazooie's Japanese version. I recall there being a wikipedia article or something describing how the humor is delivered differently.

>> No.4742060

>>4742053
I think it was this article here:
https://legendsoflocalization.com/how-was-banjo-kazooies-rhyming-text-handled-in-japanese/

>As we’ve seen already, rhyming isn’t really a thing that’s done in Japanese – the language is built upon a syllabary in which almost every single syllable automatically comes with a dozen or so of rhyming syllables. That’s why rhyming poetry isn’t really a thing in Japanese, and why you got things like haiku and tanka instead. And it might be why a lot of Japanese songs tend to sound odd at first – the rhyming’s usually not there, although the rhythm and meter are.

>Anyway, because of this, translating rhymes into Japanese is one of those tough things that Western language->Japanese localizers have to battle with. In the case of Grunty here, the Japanese localizers removed the rhyming and tried to make up for it in a few different ways:

>First, Grunty was given an “old lady” Japanese speech style. This is a pretty standard thing, and if the game had originally been Japanese I feel this is the most that would’ve been done with her text.

>This style was altered a little further into something a bit more unique – for example, the “old people” speech style often ends sentences with じゃ, pronounced “ja”. It’s basically a variation of だ or です, which mean something like “to be” or “is”.

>In the case of Grunty, this was changed from the regular “old people” じゃ to ぢゃ, which is also pronounced “ja” but is a REALLY unusual and unique way to write it. The localizers were clearly trying to give Grunty an especially unique speaking style.

>The rhyming was removed, but the localizers opted to have her hold some of her vowels extra long. Even if you don’t know Japanese, you can sort of see it in work!

>> No.4742079

>>4742060
>The end result is that Japanese Grunty speaks in a unique, unusual way. But the flow of the scene and the charm of the original rhyming text is lost in translation. It’s one of those situations where no matter what you do, something’s going to be lost. It also makes me wonder if some big fans of the series in Japan have made sites or done translation patches that try to translate the game the way they think it should’ve been translated. That’d be interesting to see!

>All that aside, how does the full scene compare when translated into Japanese? Here’s an attempt to show it, but keep in mind that as this is a translation of a translation, even more is lost here:

Trying to upload a screenshot of the translation table, but I'm getting an upload failed message no matter what connection I use.

>> No.4742229

>>4742079
Image Upload is fucked for now

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>>4742229
I noticed the post but didn't realise until you mentioned it. Here's what I was trying to post. It's a shame the translation is so limp for the Japanese version. I guess they didn't have anyone with experience writing anything but anime-tier scripts.

>> No.4744378

>>4744247
Now you know how weebs feel about "official" translations.