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Even though you can download all of them for free?

Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle - Good
Alien Soldier - Good
Alien Storm - Garbage
Altered Beast - Garbage
Beyond Oasis - Great
Bio-Hazard Battle - Good
Bonanza Bros. - Good
Columns - Bad
Columns III: Revenge of Columns - Good
Comix Zone - Good
Crack Down - Good
Decap Attack - Good (not as good as Magical Hat)
Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine - Good
Dynamite Headdy - Bad
ESWAT: City Under Siege - Garbage
Fatal Labyrinth - Garbage
Flicky - Garbage
Gain Ground - Good
Galaxy Force II - Bad
Golden Axe - Bad
Golden Axe II - Good
Golden Axe III - Good
Gunstar Heroes - Great
Kid Chameleon - Great
Landstalker - Great
Light Crusader - Good
Phantasy Star II - Good
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom - Good
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium - Great
Ristar - Great
Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi - Good
Shining Force - Great
Shining Force II - Great
Shining in the Darkness - Great
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master - Good
Sonic 3D Blast - Good
Sonic Spinball - Good
Sonic the Hedgehog - Good
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Great
Space Harrier II - Bad
Streets of Rage - Good
Streets of Rage 2 - Great
Streets of Rage 3 - Good
Super Thunder Blade - Bad
Sword of Vermilion - Bad
The Revenge of Shinobi - Good
ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron - Bad
ToeJam & Earl - Great
Vectorman - Good
Vectorman 2 - Good
Virtua Fighter 2 - Bad
Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair - Bad
Wonder Boy in Monster World - Great

I'm torn. I mean, Shining games are great, Landstalker is great and Phantasy star is great and playing them on a comfy couch with a PS4 control is nice. But I could just emulate them all with Wii or Dreamcast??

>> No.4736745
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4736745

>pal
No.

>> No.4736746

>>4736731
original carts and megadrive or gtfo.

>> No.4736748

I rather enjoyed the last-gen Genesis collection, I'm hoping this one has at least some of the fun extras. I'll definitely pick it up for my Xbone.

>> No.4736749

>>4736731
>ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron - Bad
Right. Outside.

>> No.4736751
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4736751

Its worth it for me. Don't have to deal with pc emulator and its only like 20ish bucks with amazon prime.

>> No.4736757

I've bought too many greatest hits collections over the years. I'll stick with emulating through the wii.

>> No.4736770

>>4736731
>Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle - Good
>Dynamite Headdy - Bad
>Golden Axe - Bad
>Sonic 3D Blast - Good
>Sonic Spinball - Good

>> No.4736772

>>4736731

I'll buy the NA genesis version. It's $30, I've downloaded way more that that worth in roms over the years. Who knows, maybe sega will actually make money and finally release the dc2.

>> No.4736778
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>>4736731
>Alien Storm - Garbage
>Altered Beast - Garbage
>Columns - Bad
>Dynamite Headdy - Bad
>Golden Axe - Bad
>Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair - Bad

>> No.4736781

>>4736731

Why did you feel the need to attach your own opinion of each game included? Are you some sort of attention-seeking faggot?

>> No.4736784

>>4736748
The last one had Phantasy Star I for SMS as an unlock, and Golden Axe Warrior.

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>>4736731

nice taste you cum guzzling faggot

>> No.4736789

>>4736770
Yeah, well, I started with Great Bad and Good and didn't want to add a "Okay" between bad and good.

And Golden Axe is bad. GA2 does everything GA does, but better.

>> No.4736791

>>4736778
I've never heard anyone claim Wonder Boy III : Monster Lair is good.

It's the crappy side scrolling shootem up.

>> No.4736793

Nobody in their right mind would buy this because anyone in the target audience would own/have downloaded all these fucking games on a different console already. Even portable consoles.

Plus, this shit don't even got Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Fuck that.

>> No.4736794

>>4736781
Easier to actually start thread discussion because people have something to whinge about.

>> No.4736812

>>4736794
>I wanted attention

Right.

>> No.4736816

>>4736731
>Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair
>Wonder Boy in Monster World
Where's Monster World IV though?

>> No.4736825

>>4736731
>Galaxy Force II - Bad
yeah, fuck off
better stage design than the arcade game, cool fucking bosses (that fucking tiger with the wings), cool music (well, the instrumentation is rough and kinda weird, but the compositions are cool), good graphics for a 1988 release
the only real issue the game has is being a 1988 release, it's in desperate need of a bigger ROM for more zoom frames

>ESWAT: City Under Siege - Garbage
god, I want to disagree with this so much but I can't
spent fucking ages trying to like this game, came to the conclusion that it's just shit
shame, because the further into the game you go, the nicer the graphics get

>Dynamite Headdy - Bad
I'm not even that fond of this game, but what the fuck?

>>4736770
Golden Axe kinda sucks on Genesis.

>>4736812
>>4736781
absurdly low quality posts

>> No.4736837

what emulator is good for genesis? for PC

>> No.4736851

>>4736816
In Japan where it belongs.

>> No.4736853

>>4736731
lol. no.

>> No.4736856

>>4736851
The English version was officially released 10 years ago.

>> No.4736861

>>4736745
>Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle - Good
GET
THEE
THE
FUCK
OUT

>> No.4736878

>>4736731
>Decap Attack - Good but not as good as Magical Hat

Fucker, Magical Hat was just a lame anime cash-in title when you die in 2 hits and had bland music

>Columns - Bad
Fuck you, i never played the game in my childhood and even then i can spend more than an hour playing that game, and the music is relaxing in a weird sort of way.

>Dynamite Heady - Bad
Yeah, Confirmed Shitposter

>US Streets of Rage 3 - Good
NO

>Sword of Vermillion - Bad
Agree, but had great music at the very least, hey we agree on something!

Also why is this all this collections feel gimped even when they can only include their own titles, why only the first two sonics?

>> No.4736880

>>4736825

>responding earnestly to a list of opinions in the format of "Game Title - Bad"
>calls other posts low quality

Who are you? Like, what sort of person makes this thread? What sort of person reads this thread and has any reaction other than "wow what a faggot"? What sort of person reads this thread and thinks "wow he put the word 'bad' next to a game I like. I better go explain why he's wrong."? I honestly don't understand this.

>> No.4736887

>>4736856
I think that was exclusively licensed for Nintendo's Virtual Console, unfortunately.

>> No.4736895

>>4736887
No, it was also released on PlayStation Network and Xbox Live.

>> No.4736901

>>4736880
>I don't understand this
good job
now get out

>> No.4736926

>>4736880
It's his opinions. Everyone has them... I take it we're supposed to add up what he thinks is good and bad and then tell him what to do because he's too lazy and dumb to figure it out himself. Don't waste energy getting huffy over it lol

>> No.4736940

>>4736926
I'll probably buy it to be honest.

>>4736878
>Fuck you, i never played the game in my childhood and even then i can spend more than an hour playing that game, and the music is relaxing in a weird sort of way.

Columns 2 or 3 is better.

>>4736861
Alex Kidd in the EC is not on par with Miracle World, but it's better than most Alex Kidd games.

>> No.4736945

>>4736749
Come on, it's awful. Maybe as a standalone platformer it's passable, but as a sequel to one of the greatest coop games of all time, it's trash.

>> No.4736952

The Columns trilogy just feels like they took all the separate modes in a standard puzzle game, like Tetris or Puyo Puyo, and split it across three separate games to make more money.

>> No.4736972

>>4736952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=admQ2Ideh0M

this is the only good thing about columns.

>> No.4736989

>>4736940
>Alex Kidd in the EC is not on par with Miracle World, but it's better than most Alex Kidd games.
Well, it's not like you can be worse than AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *chiptune*.

>> No.4737000

>>4736952
It was just Sega's answer to Tetris, which was also whored out to many shitty sequels.

>> No.4737012

>>4736825
>Galaxy Force II - Bad
wew I'm retarded, that was meant to quote
>Space Harrier II - Bad

Galaxy Force II on Genesis is just way too much for the poor machine (sprite flicker everywhere), and the mechanics were kinda naff in the arcade (you better be going at full fucking throttle all the time or you'll never make it before fuel runs out, good luck not ramming into everything).
Not super terrible, but I'd certainly call it bad. It's impressive in the arcade for the graphics, which suffer a bunch at home. Music's still good though, if not nearly as brilliant as the arcade.

>> No.4737014

No, I have an everdrive. Also, Altered Beast is a great game.

>> No.4737114

>>4736745
These will be the NTSC versions even in 'PAL' regions.

Pro-tip - all modern consoles use the same video standard regardless of region.

>> No.4737135

>>4737012
I got a Mega Drive in either 91 or 92 and it was supposed to come with Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle, Sonic the Hedgehog and something else. Probably Super Hang On or something. That was a deal they had going on in Australia around that time with Harvey Norman (a dept store).

Instead, they sold out of those games and I ended up with Altered Beast, Columns and Space Harrier 2. So to me, they are awful when I could have had Sonic the Hedgehog, and Alex the Kidd (which I never played until recently so it was kind of a mystery to me and I loved Miracle World).

>> No.4737137

>>4737014
Not when you were expecting Sonic the Hedgehog in a package deal, and you're 9 years old.

>> No.4737142

>No Sonic 3 and Knuckles

Nope.

>> No.4737212

>>4737135
Fucking Columns.

Every fucking swapmeet, every fucking cash converters. Every person I knew who had a Megadrive, but wasn't into gaming had this piece of shit.

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Not Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic CD (The Sega Genesis Collection on Steam have it!), the Ecco the Dolphin games? WTF Sega!, and where's my shitty Eternal Champions?

I hope they are unlockable games like in the previous collections such as: Fantasy Zone, Alien Syndrome, Phantasy Star, Super Hang-On, Zaxxon, the arcade versions of Altered Beast, Shinobi, Golden Axe and Space Harrier, etc.

>> No.4737259

>>4737212
it's a good game but a lot were made. that, golden axe and some other cart i forget are everywhere because they were shipped with megadrives in some countries.

>> No.4737273

>>4736731
>Altered Beast - Garbage
Troll thread, nothing to see here

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4737281

>paying for emulation
I'd rather have real ports to /vr/ hardware.

>> No.4737283

>>4736731
I really hope nobody buys this

>> No.4737297

>>4736784
Exactly, Phantasy Star is what I'm referring too, but arcade Space Harrier was also pretty cool. Even thought the music was fucked up.

>> No.4737317

I already own the PS3 collection and honestly prefer its game selection.

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>Sonic 3D Blast - Good
>Sonic Spinball - Good

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>>4736731
>no Ecco the Dolphin

Weak. Though after the 3DS port, anything else would be a downgrade.

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>>4737325
I have always kind of enjoyed Spinball. It's really nothing much like pinball and kind of weird, but still fun in It's own way. I never liked the normal Sonic games though.

>> No.4737338

>>4736731
But why? What will I get? A bunch of games which THEY chose? Some crappy emulator which THEY chose, instead my Kega? Maybe my money will help to support the developers? No, cause there are no more original developers. So what's the purpose of this thing?

>> No.4737340

>>4736731
>Over 50 games
>No Sonic 3
>No Ecco games

???

What else is gonna be in the collection?

>> No.4737342

>>4736837
I prefer Kega.

>> No.4737351

>>4737135
yeah, that's a bit better
Super Hang-On was pretty damn good on Genesis with the one problem that it ran a bit too slow even on NTSC machines compared to arcade. Like 10% slower.
I'd much rather have S1 and SHO than Altered Beast and Columns any day of the week.

>> No.4737352

>>4737281
Sonic Jam has weird random slowdown (mostly in Sonic 2, it's much less of an issue in S1 or S3&K) unrelated to what's on screen and altered (mostly worse) sound effects.
It's objectively worse.

it does have time attack though

>> No.4737356

>>4736731
If I did it would be exclusively for trying to get all the achievements or something. Definitely won't buy it at full price.

>> No.4737369

>>4736731
>No Robocod

Fucks sake Sega

>> No.4737383

>>4737135
Yeah, that was the Sega's plan: sell out crappy bundles and then replace them with good ones to compete with Nintendo.

>> No.4737386

>>4736731
>Altered Best - Garbage

Stopped reading right there.

You are an actual sister fucking retard.

>> No.4737392

>>4737342
>>4736837
KEGA Fusion still has the best compatibility. KEGA is the old version. If you really want a cleaner UI menu and new features than pick any derivative of the Gens emulator

https://segaretro.org/Kega_Fusion
https://segaretro.org/Gens

>> No.4737394

>>4737369
Nobody like Robocod . Or James Pond. Back then or now. Except me.

>> No.4737408

>>4737137
I was around that age too and believe me, if you came from playing your Sinclair Spectrum games like me, Altered Beast for the Mega Drive was like watching an arcade game in your own home. Absolutely amazing and quite fun to play with 2 players.
Of course, if you were expecting Sonic, then of course it's disappointing.

Anyway, I doubt this Mega Drive Classic Collection is worth the money. I'm sure it won't have any good CRT filters or perfect sound emulation (which is mandatory for MD). When they surpass Kega, then it might be something to look forward to.

>> No.4737410

>>4737352
Yeah I know it has flaws. But it's completely excused since they are actual ports. I only really noticed slowdowns on Sonic 2, but I thought the rest ran fine.
I also didn't have problem with the sound effects, although it's annoying that music restarts after getting speedshoes or invincibility, but that's also understandable since it uses autio tracks from the CD.
But yeah as you said, it has time attack, as well as some other features, which makes that collection unique. The presentation is also really nice.
The emulation on those Genesis classic collections isn't worth paying for.

>> No.4737413

I have an MD and everdrive so no

That said, I'm interested in the switch phantasy star release because it should have both English and FM sound support. I'm not aware of a way to do that normally.

>> No.4737428

>>4736731
It is missing fucking Sonic 3 and Knuckles. AND KNUCKLES. This is ridiculous. It is missing two of the best Sonic game on the fucking console. Then it is also missing the Ecco games. Not that I expected the game to be on the list but no Mutant League Football burns to since it was great.

These collections suck since they always have to be missing something good. All those damn games and they can't even put arguably the best two games on it. That is just sad.

>> No.4737449

>>4737428
Ecco was on the previous collection though, why wouldn't you expect it to be on this one?

>> No.4737458

>>4737428
>>4737449
I misread that, nevermind

>> No.4737587

>>4737410
Who cares about a label like "actual port" or "emulation"? It works better than the so called "actual port" anyway.

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>>4736731
>Headdy
>bad

>> No.4737695

>>4736731
No Sonic 3 and Knuckles, no buy.

I have a retropie anyway.

>> No.4737708

>>4737413
I don't remember Phantasy Star 1 having much sound at all, if you mean the Sega Master System version.

>> No.4737753

>>4737587
But lacks any of the original features of Jam.
Emulation also often has sound issues, and I remember the emulation on the Mega Collection having certain issues as well.
I prefer a port that might be flawed but has original content, or the original game on original hardware.

>> No.4737801

>>4737753

> the emulation on the Mega Collection having certain issues as well.
That's interesting. So they really sold the official emulator with glitches and bugs in certain games?

>> No.4737862

>>4737801
apart from like BlastEm, there's no really dead-on accurate Genesis emulator
Mega Collection had a few minor sound issues (in particular, the noise made when you finish a stage is wrong, although damn near everything but Fusion fucked that one up for years), but it's not too terrible with it.

>>4737410
the ring noise in each of the games games is an affront to god and man
the dumbest bit is that in the 3D Sonic World, it doesn't sound fucked up (they probably loaded a higher quality sample into sound ram since there's fewer sounds to play there)
the presentation is amazing though, which is probably 90% of why I pop it into my Saturn still

>> No.4737996

>>4737708
Watch this and you might understand why you don't remember the sound much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPvSoiCAWg

>> No.4738046

Those collections are not for maniacs like /vr/, it's for the average Joe that played Mega Drive/Genesis in the 90's and want to relive those memories after casually seeing the cover on a modern video game store.

>> No.4738089

>>4736731
>Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis Edition

I loved this when I was a kid playing it at a friend's house. No one owned a Saturn and before we all picked up PS1 or N64s, this was an enjoyable version for Genesis. Yea the sound was jankey, but it was still fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBlQgb4r_f8

>> No.4738105

>>4736731
>No Sonic 3 & Knuckles

>> No.4738695

>>4737114
Don't even respond. Anti-PAL posting has become a meme at this point.

>> No.4738792

>>4738105

If they aren't going to figure out the music royalties issue I wish they'd at least create some new songs and release it as "Sonic 3 Remixed" or something.

>> No.4738804

>>4736731

I might. I only really emulate out of necessity, when the costs are to much. If publishers are willing to put them out on the market Im willing to get them if the price is fair.

Also there's a cool Golden Axe poster.

>> No.4738816

>no switch release
>Switch instead is getting 20+ individually sold M2 developed ports probably at like $6+ each

I don't know if in angry as fuck or not