Retro computers thread.

[Anonymous No.4736310]

Consoles get so much attention, why don't we talk some about MS-DOS?
>What are your favorite DOS-exclusive games?
>Do you have a working computer?
>MS-DOS or Freedos?

[Anonymous No.4736320]

>>4736310
>why don't we talk some about MS-DOS?
nintendo babbies cant into keyboards

[Anonymous No.4736329]

>>4736310
It's been ported plenty, but I did a lot of my early gaming on a DOS computer. All kinds of fun stuff over the years, but Rogue was my real jam even though I wouldn't ever beat it until many years later.

[Anonymous No.4736336]

Zeliard is a port from MSX, but the DOS version looks so much better.

[Anonymous No.4736337]

>>4736329
Bad Street Brawler is actually a pretty poor game but I played it a lot because it was funny.

[Anonymous No.4736339]

Does anyone know a good text editor for DOS? I am using a broken laptop as a typewriter but can't seem to find one that does line wrap well. Closest is fed, but that actually saves the text with the linebreaks.

[Anonymous No.4736998]

>>4736329
A man of exquisite taste.

I recently rebuilt the Pentium II PC that I used as a teenager and have been playing Angband on it. Just as addictive as I remember it, possibly more so.

[Anonymous No.4737064]

>>4736320

[Anonymous No.4737086]

There was a game I played on my grandmother's DOS PC back in the day: a memory match game featuring faces of "photo-realistic" animals and had "The Entertainer" playing in the background. Anyone know what the name of this one is?

[Anonymous No.4737089]

There was a game I played on my grandmother's DOS PC back in the day: a memory match game featuring faces of "photo-realistic" animals and had "The Entertainer" playing in the background. Anyone know what the name of this one is? I've searched for it for years, but it seems really obscure.

[Anonymous No.4737092]

I'm starting to realize my pile of old computer junk is now worth something.

Also realizing when I threw out my stacks of old 286, 386, and 486 PCs a decade ago along with the dozens of mechanical keyboards that I literally threw away a small fortune.

[Anonymous No.4737116]

i was going to say transport tycoon but there was a ps1 version but its completely different, played civ 2 the most

[Anonymous No.4737120]

>>4737092
many people did, i thought that since computers played old games that there was no need to keep them, how wrong was i so make sure to keep my p3 and p4 computers because eventually new computers won't run windows xp games

[Anonymous No.4737401]

Bunp

[Anonymous No.4737418]

>>4736329
I don't think I'll ever beat Rogue. Still haven't found the ring of slow digestion.

[Anonymous No.4737437]

>>4736339
Vim

[Anonymous No.4737703]

>>4736310
I really like Abuse. Something about the gameplay is just so satisfying.

[Anonymous No.4737769]

>>4737437
Vim sucks. Chorded keystrokes are so much more intuitive than modes, the program is even more bloated now than emacs (and that's saying something), and vimscript is one of the worst languages around when you could be scripting with the superior LISP.

[Anonymous No.4737797]

Just got my hands on 2 VooDoo2 12Mb cards with the SLI cable for $70. These cards usually sell for $70-$100 each.
Was planing on christening them by playing Thief The Dark Project on a P1 200Mhz+MMX machine I just got together.
Never actually played Thief, figured it was appropriate.
Also never actually owned a VooDoo card that was DOS compatible (had a 3 back in the day), have to check out the glide version of MechWarrior 2 and Carmagedon.

[Anonymous No.4737820]

I loved Street Rod 2, still one of my favourite racing games and I don't into cars.

[Anonymous No.4737839]

>>4737437
I thought of it, but using it is plain masochism.

[Anonymous No.4738127]

I could buy this for €40 (roughly 50usd), good idea?

[Anonymous No.4738156]

>>4738127
I'd be all over it. Hell, I'd pay that for the monitor alone.

[Anonymous No.4738167]

>>4737418
I've only ever cleared it three times. It was incredible back then, but there are much more interesting games of the sort now. I went back to it for a thread we had here a while ago but didn't end up sticking with it all that long.

Another game that also used to freak me the hell out, 3Demon. Still get tiny shivers looking at it.

[Anonymous No.4738313]

>>4736310
Master of Magic
Wolfenstein
X-Wing
TIE Fighter
Dark Queen of Krynn

[Anonymous No.4738457]

>>4738127
reminds me of this brother WP-3400 word processor i have

[Anonymous No.4738527]

Been into my Windows 98 machine for the past few months that I cobbled together from Fleabay and Thriftstore finds. P3/550, Voodoo 3 3000 (luckily an in the wild 5.00 find). Still looking for that 19-21" CRT to go with it.

Played Rainbow 6, Powerslide, Phantasmagoria, Burn Cycle, Warcraft 1, and just finished up Jagged Alliance: Deadly Games.

[Anonymous No.4738567]

>>4736310
>Do you have a working computer?
i have an old 90s toshiba laptop thats pretty much become a DOS machine entirely, it can run some windows games but the specs arent great even for its time, so i mostly use it for games older than 95

i also hook it up to a monitor because its screen is garbage

[Anonymous No.4738685]

>>4737769
>>4737437

vim and emacs are unix programs

anyone who used dos back in the day used edit

[Anonymous No.4738741]

>>4736336
Oh. Loved this one as a kid, had totally forgotten it though. Now I know what I'll be playing tonight.

[Anonymous No.4738745]

Anyone Zaxxon?

[Anonymous No.4738746]

>>4736310
Got a 486 and a 80c86-based laptop, but right now I'm in the process of acquiring a lot of 2 PC clones (80186 and 80286-based) and an IBM PS/1 (386-based). I'll try to see if using a 386-based machine can fix the MIDI issues on Princess maker II, I haven't had any luck on my 486, neither Softmpu nor disabling the CPU's internal cache worked, the music simply stop working after some time.
>>4736336
Zeliard is a port from the PC-88. It looked just the same as the PC-88 one (in EGA mode, the MCGA mode is ugly as hell), but had better music despite using an OPL2 chip instead of OPN. It didn't have FM-based speech synthesis for stores and the likes anymore though. Even for firehawk that came out on MSX2 too, the PC version is based on the PC-88 one.

[Anonymous No.4738750]

>>4738741
It moved at like 3 frames a second probably, but in 1985 just flying around was amazing.

[Anonymous No.4738884]

>>4737092
While I got rid a bit of gear I kept a few parts from each era to build some complete systems. I have about 4 to 5 crates in my shed full of main board with ram and cpus in 386, 486, Pentiums, 2 and 3s. I have a couple of old modems too. I sold some stuff off about a decade ago that could have fetched a lot more now.

[Anonymous No.4739064]

>>4737092
I tried selling my stuff years ago and nobody was interested so I ended up pulling out components and tossing the rest

[Anonymous No.4739087]

>>4738685
Edit is crap tho.
Up until now I was using fed which does hard linewrap only (a pity, it's perfect other than that) but last night I gave up and installed vim, which is in the freedos repos. Had to spent like two hours just to make it a little less shit, will report again later.

[Anonymous No.4739108]

>>4736310
>>What are your favorite DOS-exclusive games?
that's a consolefag-tier question, PC was never about platform exclusivity

that said, Operation Carnage is fun

[Anonymous No.4739115]

>>4738685
>vim and emacs are unix programs
kids. lol. There are ports of Emacs to nearly every OS and even more Emacs clones. If by back in the day you mean early 80's before that happened for DOS then sure, lots of people used edit. But based on your lack of knowledge I'm guessing you weren't using any editors then.

[Anonymous No.4739116]

Anyone Zaxxon?

[Anonymous No.4739197]

>>4737820
this. i've never clocked SR2, Aqueduct is tough.

Clocked SR1 though

[Anonymous No.4740556]

Bemp

[RealTrapritoFag too !5RRtZawAKg No.4741393]

>>4736310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t2JsItC-Wc
Is this the best Win98 /vr/ laptop?
>That 30 minute battery life.

[Anonymous No.4742108]

>>4736336
>>4736337
> that pink-red EGA color
fuuggggg I cant believe I forgot how ugly that looks
> they couldnt just go with a saturated red

[Anonymous No.4742771]

>>4741393
>Celeron
>shit GPU
>shit audio
No, not really.

[Anonymous No.4743182]

hoarding beige pcs like elite

[Anonymous No.4743567]

>>4736339
EDIT.COM

[Anonymous No.4743574]

Best MS*DOS games for my money:

* Jill of the Jungle
* Wolfenstein 3D
* MegaRace
* Capitalism
* SimEarth
* Scorched Earth
* Black Monday

[Anonymous No.4743974]

>>4743567
A shit.
It took some wrestling, but I got vim to run nicely and the settings to be sane.

[Anonymous No.4744331]

>>4743974
Vim is definitely a great choice. It's pretty configurable, but the learning curve is pretty steep. Not as bad as EDLIN, though.

[Anonymous No.4744341]

>>4736310
Because modern PC's can handle MS-DOS games. Besides, consoles are aesthetically pleasing to the eyes & they got a great library of games.

[Anonymous No.4744356]

>>4744341
>Because modern PC's can handle MS-DOS games.
Yes and no. DOS games are not directly supported in modern operating systems, so you need an emulator such as DOSBox (and if you want to bring emulators into it, you can emulate most consoles too). You can technically install DOS on a modern PC, but running games like that isn't very practical due to lack of support for modern sound hardware, CGA/EGA compatiblity problems in newer graphics cards, etc.

[Anonymous No.4744594]

I mostly played a shitton of Apogee's shareware games back in the day, even if I was partial to strategy because they felt like they had so much more depth. My kiddy brain with barely any capability to understand English during the early to mid 90s couldn't handle much from that genre

[Anonymous No.4744983]

>>4743574
>Scorched Earth
I thought this was for Windows.

[Anonymous No.4745072]

>>4744983
I couldn't find a Windows release, so I'm pretty sure it's DOS only.

[Anonymous No.4746475]

>>4744331
My main issue with it at first was the weird way it handles lines -it very obviously doesn't like you to softwrap- but after a bit I found how to display partial lines and scroll coherently with the cursor, those two were the biggest things. It's nice to use now that what I'm learning is non-vital commands.

[RealTrapritoFag too !5RRtZawAKg No.4747238]

>>4744341
>>4744356
The real fact is consolefags are mostly retarded and love wasting money instead of emulating.

[RealTrapritoFag too !5RRtZawAKg No.4747239]

>>4744594
>strategy
Apogee has strategy games???

[Anonymous No.4747264]

>>4739116
I tried it here https://classicreload.com/zaxxon.html and holy shit the game is fast as fuck, can barely avoid the first couple of obstacles.

[Anonymous No.4747576]

>>4747238
>tripfags in charge of not being retarded

[Anonymous No.4748971]

>>4736310
>why don't we talk some about MS-DOS?
Would love to. It was one of my favorite gaming platforms of my youth. Played my cousin's Tandy 8086, got my own 286-12 which got upgraded to a 386DX-40 then ultimately to a 486DX4-100. Played mostly MS-DOS games, as I quit around Win95, before I came back for Win2000.

>What are your favorite DOS-exclusive games?
Civilization, Epic Pinball, Ultima 7: Black Gate/Serpent Isle, Sam & Max: Hit the Road, Tyrian, Wing Commander 2, Cobra Mission, Zone 66, Princess Maker 2, Halloween Harry, Star Control 2, UFO, Scorched Earth, Legend of Kyrandia, Masters of Magic, Solar Winds, Tie Fighter, etc. I can go on and on. There's just too many great games that I can't choose one.

>Do you have a working computer?
I have a 486DX4-100 which I am thinking of changing some of the parts. I am also currently planning on building a J-Win98SE machine to explore all the Win95/98 games I missed out on. I am looking for advice on the computers.

>MS-DOS or Freedos?
My only experience with Freedos is with Spinrite and I think the Knoppix distribution.
>>4736339
I used to just use the default edit for DOS. Can't think of many other TXT editors outside of notepad within Windows 3.0/3.1/3.11.

I know I preferred HotDir (which I just renamed to H.com and have it in path) to replace the default DIR command. I remember WordPerfect for documents, but I preferred AmiPro in Windows 3.0/3.1/3.11 for document editing.


>>4737092
Throwing out my old 486DX4, Athlon ??, etc. is my biggest regret too. Forced in my move to lighten the load, when they fit right in the unoccupied back seat but logic didn't seem to work with women. I know as I am now paying for it in rebuilding the J-Win98SE machine, but at least I get to go with the brand name Pentium 3 which I couldn't afford then where I had to settle for AMD Athlon as I did back then.

[Anonymous No.4749023]

>>4747264
Lol. Yeah it's kind of an odd game. One of the many that I didn't exactly like but still played a bunch because it was the 80's and options were limited.

[Anonymous No.4749615]

Is there any particular reason to seek out a 286 or 386 computer? I'm not that familiar with the DOS library, but it seems like most games will either run fine on a 486/Pentium or only work right on an 8088. Is that an accurate assessment?

Also, how useful is a real EGA card? Is EGA emulation on (S)VGA perfect?

[Anonymous No.4749642]

>>4737820
I preferred the first one, but good choice.

Also:

OMF 2097

[Anonymous No.4751952]

bump

[Anonymous No.4752065]

>>4749615
>286 or 386 computer
Some games with extremely specific timings. Same with 8088.

>EGA
VGA handles it fine, just like RGB CGA. The only thing that VGA can't do is composite CGA.

[Anonymous No.4752091]

>>4736310
Oh god, i have very fond memories of playing daggerfall, in fact im playing through it again

[Anonymous No.4753427]

>>4739197
I could never get 2 under my belt, beat one as a kid, and that was a shit your pants moment but it was fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.4754298]

>>4749615
>Is there any particular reason to seek out a 286 or 386 computer?
Accuracy, and the feeling of connection to the past

[Anonymous No.4754312]

>>4736310
You guys are going too far back for me. Here's some Moto Racer from 1997:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHkhgoi9p-M

[Anonymous No.4754364]

>>4736310
Welcome to /vr/ How's your first day going? There's literally unironically a thread about old PCs as a regular fixture of this board.

[Anonymous No.4754980]

>>4748971
>Rise of the Dragon
So awful compared to Sierra/Lucasarts fare but I liked it anyway.

[Anonymous No.4754986]

>>4749615
>Is there any particular reason to seek out a 286 or 386 computer?
Games that are clock-dependent or have glitches at higher speeds are an absolute bastard to get right on faster hardware, even with clock/cache manipulation and slowdown tools.

[Anonymous No.4756818]

>>4749615
A 386 is pretty good for all the non-FPS games DOS offers (aside from Catacomb 3D and Wolfenstien 3D). I only remember the 386 starting to struggle with the higher resolution and screen size of Doom/Heretic/Hexen. I think a 286 is plenty capable and can run Wing Commander 1&2 and the Sierra games at ideal speeds without much trickery like cache disabling and MoSlo. I spent a lot of time playing on a 386DX-40, but I was impressed that a 286-16 seems to get most the games I liked: https://youtu.be/S_ZEWvokp3o


>>4754980
Yeah, I like the game too. I like the voices but dislike the green hue everything has in the SegaCD version. I actually count Rise of the Dragon as a Sierra game because it is Dynamix which is a part of Sierra. I do like the Lucasarts and Sierra paint & click adventures a lot, named a couple earlier as my favorite DOS games as they kind of defined the joy I had with old DOS games in those days. Also for point & click I think Westwood studios should be up there with Lucasarts/Sierra.for the Kyrandia games. Also I want to play Inherit the Earth, which I intend on once I figure out what I want to do with the computers I am building/upgrading.

[Anonymous No.4757586]

I really need to find a Doom port for my System.

[Anonymous No.4758534]

I prefer emulation. Was playing around with some of my old laptops a while ago and found trying to run stuff on original systems was more of a pain than I remember it being. At least for win9x machines.

[Anonymous No.4759812]

>someone snagged a pentium 3 pc and p2 motherboard with all pheriperials under my nose at an auction website

it's not like I wanted to watch demoscene and rock out to tracker music on real DOS compatible hardware anyway...

[Anonymous No.4759826]

>>4737120
>make sure to keep my p3 and p4 computers because eventually new computers won't run windows xp games

you should just throw away the P4 ones - it's hardly a retro computer, it's just a shitty computer. and many older games do work on 10 indeed, sometimes it will detect a lacking old DLL and install it for you. virtualbox is also an option.

keep the P3 though if they're still Win98/DOS compatible

[Anonymous No.4759827]

>>4754986
>>4756818
So if I already have a Pentium 2 PC and an 8088 PC, what kind of "middle ground" PC should I build? 286, 386, or 486? I was leaning toward a 486 because I have a spare DX2 and some 72-pin SIMMs already, but I could go with something else instead if it would be more worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.4759829]

>>4759827
go for 486

[Anonymous No.4760949]

>>4759827
486s are pretty popular. The DX2-66 were a mainstay that was well used by many. DOS games including some of those early FPS games like Doom and Heretic will run well. I'd say build what suits you best, part of the fun in building your own is the personal touch that makes a computer yours. Having some parts already is a great start. I'm working the opposite way, as I have a 486DX4 and now trying to work on a Pentium 3 machine.

Since I cannot afford much, I'm opting for the 2nd and 3rd best choices to keep the cost manageable. I am opting for a J-Win98SE build primarily for the Japanese PC games, but I hear 98 has some good DOS compatibility as well. I am unsure if the parts I have chosen for the build will fit the bill for DOS. I just got in a Corsair TX550M power supply, so now all I need is a case, cables, hard drives, floppy emulator, and SATA to IDE adapters. I'm slowly saving up for each part.

[Anonymous No.4760989]

>>4737064
Mah nigga. This is my setup right now

[Anonymous No.4761729]

>>4759826
Nah, they're great if you're on a tight budget (excluding Rambus systems) and are more concerned about getting Win9x-era games running than DOS. They usually have integrated USB 2.0, larger and faster IDE disk support, and sometimes even integrated SATA support (with backwards-compat settings).

[Anonymous No.4761801]

>>4761729
>muh usb 2.0 and fast ide/sata
you can get expansion cards for those for like $5, and the upside is if your motherboard goes bad, you can reuse the cards in the next board

also you can expect better driver compatibility with an expansion card

[Anonymous No.4761906]

>>4761801
Not really the point of my last post, but on a budget they're a nice bonus to have included on the board.

BTW, find me a USB card that has an option ROM that you can boot off of.
>Protip: You can't. And chainloading from PLOP doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.4761971]

>>4761906
"on a budget" you can go all software with emulators and wrappers. and it's easier and more convenient since you don't have to configure and maintain a second computer.

stop trying to validate a P4 build as "retro" because it has "integrated features" that are irrelevant for retro games. features which are still obtainable to a proper retro build anyway, should anyone feel like they really need them for some reason.

BTW, find me a shade of color between blue and yellow.
>Protip: You can't. And any kind of green doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.4761994]

>>4736336
>but the DOS version looks so much better.

That's the first time I've ever seen that written. Are there any other Dos games that look better than their competitors like Atari or Commodore?

[Anonymous No.4762008]

>>4760949
I would suggest a mother board with at least one ISA slot for an ISA sound card.

[Anonymous No.4762083]

>>4761994
Well he sure doesn't know what he's talking about. Zeliard never came out on the MSX, it was a PC-88 game to begin with. The original look almost the same as the PC version in EGA mode, and both the PC-88 and the IBM version in EGA look better than the MCGA version.

[Anonymous No.4762149]

>>4761971
>"on a budget" you can go all software with emulators and wrappers.
Not if your daily driver sucks. I've had buttery-smooth retro-gaming experiences on P4 hardware with the same games that lag, glitch, and stutter on machines made in the past eight years, emulators/wrappers or not.
>stop trying to validate a P4 build as "retro" because it has "integrated features". features which are still obtainable to a proper retro build anyway
What is "No true Scotsman," Alex? Might as well disqualify 386-P6 era hardware as retro because "integrated features". Remember, early PC hardware didn't even have integrated drive controllers and I/O ports aside from a DIN connector for keyboards or cassettes. Probably best to throw all that 90s-era hardware in the trash now, hmmm?
>BTW, find me a shade of color between blue and yellow.
Still waiting for an answer Anon :^)

[Anonymous No.4762190]

>>4762149
>cut half a sentence and call out a fallacy
>while using another fallacy as counter-argument

[Anonymous No.4763070]

>>4762008
For the J-Win98SE build, I thought maybe the VXD drivers for the Audigy ZS2 would suffice and work with DOS. Is there no other way for PCI sound cards to work in DOS? The motherboard I got for the J-Win98SE build does have a built in sound and graphics, but no ISA slots, so I am stuck with choosing a PCI sound card.

It's okay, the aim of the J-Win98SE build is more for J-win games and the 98 games I missed out on. I still have a 486DX4 for the top two cards, and maybe I will resurrect my uncle's Gateway P5-75 with the bottom two cards in >>4748971 for DOS gaming.

[Anonymous No.4763542]

>>4763070
>Audigy ZS2 would suffice and work with DOS. Is there no other way for PCI sound cards to work in DOS?
First of all PCI soundcards are terible for DOS uses. Used to use a creative audio PCI card and a soundblaster Live! on a machine with DOS installed on it. On top of having really crappy FM support, some games would just freeze or simply not work, while such things never happened on my 486 build with said games.
Second, for a soundcard in windows 98 to work with DOS games, the drivers needs legacy soundblaster emulation. The audigy doesn't have this. .

[Anonymous No.4763671]

>>4763070
check in your BIOS if you have a 'legacy soundblaster' option. the motherboard-integrated sound might actually be a DOS-compatible. it might sound slightly off in regards to FM synth compared to a real SB but it should work smoothly. if any drivers or TSR's are needed, they're probably packaged with the motherboard drivers

[Anonymous No.4763689]

Anyone here have any experience in replacing HDDs on retro systems with compact flash cards using those adapters?

Tried replacing the drive in my old win95 laptop with one of my 133x cards, but not only is it noticeably slower than the hdd, but I keep getting lots of random lag when interacting with the system...

[Anonymous No.4763698]

>>4763689
>Anyone here have any experience in replacing HDDs on retro systems with compact flash cards using those adapters?
No, I alway used actual IDE drives.

[Anonymous No.4763708]

>>4763689
Make sure DMA is enabled. Also, write speeds on cheap CF cards are usually abysmal, and they don't have cache so small writes will bring them to their knees. That's why I tend to recommend a hard drive or proper SSD for Windows machines. CF cards work brilliantly for DOS, though.

>>4763698
Strictly speaking, CF cards are actual IDE drives.

[Anonymous No.4763709]

>>4748971
Nice Tseng there. Guess it's a 3 and 4k. The 6k is the fastest for older DOS systems. I had a Pentium 60 with an onboard ET4000 - fine part but it was a bit of overkill for such a CPU. No idea about the sound cards but wave table is always good. Is your DX4 Intel or AMD?

[Anonymous No.4763715]

>>4763708
>Strictly speaking, CF cards are actual IDE drives.
The term 'drive' imply tape or disk drive. CF cards aren't drives, even though OSes can see them as such.

[Anonymous No.4763771]

>>4763689
Yes. It was a viable option for replacing 1.8" notebook drives at one point due to it's size and I still have one installed in an old Toshiba notebook and a v64. Now that 1/2 width 1.8" SSDs are available it's retarded and has always been retarded for any other application. Your 133x is roughly the speed of a late 80's HDD. The fastest CF is roughly the speed of a 20 year old HDD. The cheapest SSD made is 2-3 times as fast as that.

[Anonymous No.4763934]

>>4763708
>>4763771
Thanks for your input. I'm figuring at this point my card is just too shitty to handle windows in any consistent manner. Guess i'll try IDE SSDs next ;)

[Anonymous No.4764006]

Just got my VIA Apollo Pro 133T chipset socket 370 motherboard in the mail yesterday. Placed a 1.26ghz P3 in it and it runs like a champ.
Going to serve as my new retro PC for DOS VGA era to the early 2000s since it has a slot for an ISA sound card (Yamaha YMF719, Soundblaster Pro2 compatible with no TSR).
Still have my 486 for older dos games that are more timing sensitive, but between the two I'm basically set unless it's something really off beat and needs CGA composite or whatever.

>>4736310
>MS-DOS or Freedos?
China DOS Union
Its a modified DOS from Win95 OSR2 that makes it compatible with Win3.1, adds long file name support, and tons of other features. HIGHLY recommend it. You can get it from WinWorldPC.

[Anonymous No.4764013]

>>4763689
Works great for DOS/Win3.1, alright for Win95, and kinda sketchy for Win98.
Just like >>4763708 mentioned, it's the write speed that is the real killer.
But if you use it for the right situation its a great solution. Its really handy in my 486 Win3.1 machine.

[Anonymous No.4764389]

I also realize I only have one yellowed retro ball mouse. Think the Deathadders convert to PS/2 okay? Any other mouse recommendations for PS/2?


>>4763542
Well shit. I guess it will just have to be a dedicated J-Win95/98SE machine. The only DOS/V game I have is Princess Maker 2 anyway. When I went cheap with the parts, just to aim for 98, I opted a P3-1.2GHz like >>4764006 did, but did not have the foresight to check for an ISA slot when getting a motherboard. I thought VXD drivers would be good enough from what I read and I did always want the Audigy in those days when I had the top Live! 5.1, so it will do for other Win games I intend on playing.


>>4763671
That's my only hope if I am going to attempt old DOS games on the 98 build. It is an ASUS TUSL2, not the popular TUSL2-C everyone on a google search has. I'm hoping for the best.


>>4763709
My DX4 is the AMD type. I am thinking of pairing it with the 4000. I was wondering if there are chips that can be slotted into the 4000. The Lightspeed 128 video card appears to have pads to solder more chips and a port into, I wonder what those were for. I think the Lightspeed 128 would fit the P5-75 best since I want to run SimCity 2000 on that. I remember one of my old PC-Gamer magazine recommended the Tseng cards over the faster, more expensive video cards, so I stuck with the brand as I did with Creative (though Zone66 was really trying to convince me to try out the Gravis Ultrasound).

[Anonymous No.4765227]

>>4739064
the compaq and the emachine are the two pcs I use to own

[Anonymous No.4765502]

>>4763934
For a simple setup one of those small SSD dongles should be fine. If you want multiple drives you might want to go with an SATA adapter that has a M/S jumper.

[Anonymous No.4765780]

Sharp X68000 running SX-Window and being what it was supposed to be: a computer rather than a glorified supergun for arcade games.

https://youtu.be/_up7p6de5co

Imagine owning one of these things in the late 80s...

[Anonymous No.4765958]

>>4765780
>SX-Window 3.1
>1024 x 768
>late 80s
>Imagine
Indeed. Such a thing only exists in your imagination.

[Anonymous No.4766007]

>>4765958
I'm sorry your autism prevents you from understanding two sentences independently from one other.

[Anonymous No.4766057]

>>4766007
And I'm sorry your autism prevents you from accepting that you're a retarded weebster who made a simple silly error because his knowledge of the X680x0 is limited to a couple youtube videos. So please share your great autistic wisdom with me and tell me. What exactly am I supposed to imagine owning in the late 80's if not the thing you posted about? What a fucking goof.

[Anonymous No.4766138]

>>4765958
>>4766057
Anon, while the model featured in the video is just a shrunk X68000 EXPERT-HD more or less, that model came out in 1989, and it can sun SX-Windows 3.0/3.1 (3.0 was packaged with the Expert model), and it can run at 1024x768 4bbp with it's amount of video RAM.
Nothing the dude was showing or talking about was out of the question in 1989.

[Anonymous No.4766240]

>>4766138
>it was packaged with a time machine so you could run software released in 1993 in 1989
Well damn son. If that's true then it's a very underrated machine.

[Anonymous No.4766250]

>>4766240
3.0 was out in 1989
3.0 could do 1024x768
Quit being so hung up on the fact that the video is featuring 3.1.
Thats like sperging out that a Pentium 1 is running Win98 and denying it could run 95 and basically do all the same shit.