for me it's the Sega Saturn

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Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:41:52 2018 No.4734745 [Reply] [Original]

for me it's the Sega Saturn

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:44:44 2018 No.4734748 Careful, you'll trigger the jelly poorfags.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:53:10 2018 No.4734756 Top Tier: Megadrive High Tier: Saturn Mid Tier: Dreamcast Low Tier: Master System Shit Tier: SG-1000

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:53:58 2018 No.4734837 >>4734745 for me it's the McChicken

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:59:47 2018 No.4734840 >>4734756 Agreed, Master System is awful and has no games. Saturn is fine OP

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:42:50 2018 No.4734919 >>4734745 Such a cool looking system when it's white. Too bad theirs hardly any games

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:46:01 2018 No.4734920 File: 27 KB, 220x374, 220px-MrBone_frontcover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why the fuck does v's reccomended saturn games have mr. Bones in it?? This game is horrible. Its like if gex was super stiff and shitly like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:47:38 2018 No.4734923 File: 79 KB, 604x265, 1353301333597.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4734920 I was so excited to play it, because i love the blues, but fuck me man... fuck my fat cunt you niggers

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 01:32:28 2018 No.4735005

I'm looking to get myself a Saturn since emulation is still shit 24 years on.
Any suggested models?
NTSC-U/C or NTSC-J?
Recommended peripherals?
I would look elsewhere, but there aren't really any in depth buying guides.
At least none as good as for getting a Genesis.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:58:43 2018 No.4735080

>>4734920
Yeah, it's definitely not gex. It's not even a platformer but I'm guessing you don't know that because you never passed the first level. Which bring us the the other difference. It's not a nintendo game designed for toddlers. Some parts took me 2-3 tries to get through and my kids, who are probably about your age, didn't come close in several tries. It's not horrible but it's not a great game and only gives you a few quatloos of hipster cred so certainly not worth investing the effort in playing for a casuallet.

>>4735005
All my Saturns are Japan/Asian because that's where I live and it was massive here so dirt cheap. I'd recommend those but shipping costs might make it not such a good deal. Light guns are a must have. Consider 3rd party ones that do PS as well. I also really love my HSS-0130 but again you'll get fucked on shipping costs and people want silly money for them now. A couple multi taps to play 10 player bomber man is a good idea if you have friends. So skip that? Same story with von sticks. An MPEG card to play that one game that requires it and is in a language you don't know.
There are a bunch of AR, save, rom carts that are useful/required for certain games. Someone was working on an all in one. If it ever go made it would probably be worth getting that instead of hunting for each piece on ebay.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 03:59:24 2018 No.4735127

>>4735080
I'm not too worried about cost, so long as it isn't outrageous.
10 player bomber man seems to be a good substitute to NBA Jam or SSB with friends.
Is copy protection an issue? Or will I have to buy legit copies of every game?
Do you know if NTSC-J models work in the US?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:09:41 2018 No.4735132

>>4735005
Get a jap Saturn as they are cheaper.
Get an Action Replay 4 Plus as it works as a ROM cartridge, region bypass and as a memory card. Get a pair of lightguns if you like the games. Get a 3D pad for the games that support it. If you like the Dreamcast controller, you'll enjoy the 3D controller.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:16:13 2018 No.4735138

>>4735132
I've been taking notes.
>Jap Saturn
>Jap controllers
>Light guns
>HSS-0130 Arcade Stick
>Multi tap(s)
>3D controller
>MPEG card
>Action Replay
Thanks guys, the question about copy protection still stands, however.
Regardless, I'm excited to get into the Saturn. I grew up on Genesis,
PlayStation, N64 then Dreamcast, skipping the Saturn completely.
Excited to tap into its potential.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:18:37 2018 No.4735140 >>4735138 The Action Replay lets you play burned discs. I would advise against using it as burned games shorten the laser lifespan on retro consoles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:23:03 2018 No.4735142 >>4735140 >shorten the laser lifespan on retro consoles. I heard that was bullshit and my Sega CD has played burned games for most of it's lifespan, but I'll look into it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 06:20:39 2018 No.4735259 >>4735080 >it's not a nintendo game designed for toddlers Even Sega games for toddlers like Castle of Illusion or Sonic are better than Mr. Bones. Mr. Bones is interesting in its audiovisual department but a sketchy game to say the least.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 19:37:38 2018 No.4736585
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First post ever on /vr/, sup /saturn/?

This is my collection, it's small but it's very dear to me. In 1995 I got my first job at 13 and after a year I had a pretty penny saved up. A tv commercial for nights convinced me the sega saturn was the console for me. My first one I ever bought and paid for myself. I've had xmen vs street fighter, castlevania and house of the dead since the late 90s. Everything else has been bought in the past 3 years. My goal is to get all the light gun games, and my next purchase will probably be advanced vg for important and I want another rpg (albert odyssey, guardian heroes) or burning rangers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:26:46 2018 No.4736631 >>4734837 Sandwich

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:31:51 2018 No.4736636 >>4736631 in 120 minutes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:34:39 2018 No.4736639 File: 1.49 MB, 2447x1488, Console Master Race.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4734745 I have that version of the Sega Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:37:12 2018 No.4736646 I want one of the Toshiba Saturns.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:37:18 2018 No.4736648 >>4735142 Not him, but the burned CD's I used did shorten the lifespan of my consoles and that was when I was only using them to play music with back in 2000. I had to re-buy my consoles and avoid using CD-R's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:44:33 2018 No.4736657 >>4734837 Oh hi /ck/

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:47:28 2018 No.4736827

>>4735127
One childs outrageous is another mans spare change. You'll have to make your own call on that. Copy protection and region lock are both issues. The best solution is a good mod chip and and AR. Or potentially that multi function card. Legit copies of Jap games used to be an option but hipsters fled to the Saturn when babies discovered the NES so $1 games are now $50. Jap consoles work fine in the US. The PUS is actually rated for 125VAC.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:55:04 2018 No.4736909

>>4734756
>Shit Tier:
>SG-1000
part of me wants to fucking fight you
but just about everything that's particularly good on the machine is available elsewhere and better
plus, it's got that mildly retarded MSX1 vdp in it (no scrolling, no memory-mapped vram)

>>4735142
it's a toss-up
the drive has to use more power to read burned rather than pressed discs cleanly
a combination of lucking out and getting a laser that's a-okay with operating at higher power all the time and better media that's more easily read with lower power would do the trick, and it's not like it's going to burn out ASAP either way

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:24:21 2018 No.4738043 >>4736585 Pretty nice, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:13:16 2018 No.4738103 astal is fine art

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 04:37:39 2018 No.4738964 >>4736648 Is it even that significant when compared to retail releases? Especially those with a high number of FMVs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 04:43:23 2018 No.4738969 >>4734745 snes and c64 for me. >>4736909 >plus, it's got that mildly retarded MSX1 vdp in it (no scrolling, no memory-mapped vram) the tms9918 was a giant pile of shit. it wasn't mildly retarded it was fucking retarded.. and cheap.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 04:47:02 2018 No.4738971

>>4734748
you can't trigger anybody to defend one of the most over engineered consoles which produced shit-tier level 3d graphics with the worst software library in existence. it sure didn't stop sega going the full jew and using it as a new arcade platform.. that also contained some of the worst games ever made. it's like being jealous of someone that has aids or cancer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 05:17:01 2018 No.4738989 >>4734745 Cool console, poor library. The real draw of the Saturn is the amazing controller. Best d-pad.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 09:32:15 2018 No.4739163

>>4735138
>LIGHT GUNS

Couple things you should know. 1st, DO NOT USE 3RD PARTY LIGHT GUNS. they will never calibrate exactly and it will diminish your fun and ramp up the difficulty for no reason. 2nd, the light guns come in 3 colors by region! They all work the same, so it will come down to your preferences. The NA gun is orange, the Euro gun is blue, and the Jap gun is Black.

Light gun games that I have: Death Crimson, Virtual Cop 1 and 2, Area 51, Scud, House of the Dead. Area 51 and Hotd are more expensive than the other 3, which are all 25$ or less.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 09:45:07 2018 No.4739174 >>4738971 Sure thing, jelly poorfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 11:59:48 2018 No.4739319 >>4738964 Yes. The best thing you could do if you want to play on original hardware is to mod it. I know some people who modded their Dreamcast by removing the disc reader & replacing it with a SD card reader.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 21:36:46 2018 No.4740373 >>4738971 >says not triggered >is clearly triggered

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 21:41:04 2018 No.4740380 >>4734748 >$60 system

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 22:31:37 2018 No.4740480

All the people talking about hardware mods aren't actual sega saturn collectors, they're just rabid videogame fans who want to play games. there's nothing wrong with that, but no serious collector a) fucks with cdrs and b) fucks with hardware mods when action replay exists.

you idiots would probably try and put arms on the venus de milo and tell me it's an improvement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 06:01:32 2018 No.4740986 >>4734756 Heh no Top tier: Dreamcast High tier: Mega Drive Mid tier: Master System Low tier: Saturn SG-1000 Shit tier: 32X >>4739163 >DO NOT USE 3RD PARTY LIGHT GUNS. they will never calibrate exactly I have a Yoba lightgun and it works perfect

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 06:21:07 2018 No.4741001 >>4739163 Couple things you should know. 1st, DO NOT LISTEN TO REDDLETS WHO USE CAPS. they will never give good advice. Reddit spacing is also a dead giveaway you're dealing with a tard.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 20:37:07 2018 No.4741998

>>4740986
I had 3 light guns in high school and none of them were able to perfectly calibrate. First time with the official gun it calibrated exactly and i was pissed at younger me for not buying a stunner. I've never heard of your brand of gun, show me a picture.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 21:04:44 2018 No.4742038

>>4740480
Please listen to this anon if you buy games for taking up space on your shelf.

Action Replays are well known for having thicker contacts than first party cartridges (RAM and Backup carts) which damage the pins on the Saturn cartridge slot over time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 21:19:08 2018 No.4742058 >>4742038 Saturn games are collectable, so yes, they are for display. >insert action replay into system 1 time >leave it there Why are you removing the cart all the time? You're a bad troll and it's time you went somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 22:57:01 2018 No.4742157 >>4740986 Implying Dreamcast isnt just a rehash of the Saturn

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 23:28:05 2018 No.4742201

>>4740480
Top kek kid. Any serious collector keeps his factory sealed shit sealed and uses CDRs on a modded console.

>>4742058
He's probably removing the cart because there's more than one thing that plugs into that slot. Of course as a "serious collector" you wouldn't know this. kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 00:56:18 2018 No.4742305 >>4736585 >Panzer Dragon II I'll be over in 5 minutes

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 06:06:20 2018 No.4742583 File: 352 KB, 1600x1263, s-l1600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4742157 If that were the case Saturn would have a lot more of original non-arcade games >>4741998

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 13:28:02 2018 No.4743116 >>4742583 Most Dreamcast classics are sequels to Saturn games. Even NBA 2k is a sequel to NBA 98 on Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 13:38:53 2018 No.4743136 File: 3.05 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20180430_183606259.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4742038 Official backup cart

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 13:40:48 2018 No.4743140 File: 2.85 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20180430_183751100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4742038 >>4743136 Action Replay Plus ERMAGHERD 30 MICRONS! HOW WILL MY POOR CONTACTS EVER COPE?!

Anonymous Mon Apr 30 15:17:35 2018 No.4743315

>>4735132
>>4735138
AR is overrated, and breaks often. Get a normal Japanese memory cart instead. 4M RAM expansion is nice but only a few Capcom ports use it, and all of those have better ports on other systems (not to mention that you can perfectly emulate the arcade originals). SNK games need 1M carts; they glitch with 4M or AR carts.

If you use jap games and jap console, you have no need for region bypass.
The hss-0130 is shit. You need to mod it with custom buttons, but for that you have to destroy the front panel artwork.
Multitaps are only useful for 2-3 games. I think Bomberman and Death Tank Zwei are the only major ones.
MPEG card has no use whatsoever.
3d controller is bulky and there are no good games that use it in a worthwhile manner. Nights is the only one that comes close and only because it's a Sonic Team game so people go full autist over it. It's not that good of a game.

Also, a few games don't work with the 3d pad even in digital mode. Golden Axe for example. So just don't bother with it, it's not worth it.

>>4743140
That's enough to loosen the cart slot which is already shit quality to begin with. Avoid the Action Replay if you want to treat your Saturn right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 15:56:12 2018 No.4743375 >>4743315 have you seriously not played panzer dragoon saga with the 3D controller? it controls so much better with it.

Anonymous Mon Apr 30 16:00:53 2018 No.4743379

>>4743315
>That's enough to loosen the cart slot
It really isn't.

What it is in reality is 60% of the diameter of the average human hair. Inserting an official cart with a tiny bit of fluff on the contacts will cause more "damage" to the slot than using an AR.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 17:47:57 2018 No.4743636 >>4734756 the master system is so fucking awful that even the sg-1000 is better

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 19:24:34 2018 No.4743837 >>4743375 Sega really nailed the 3D analog feel for games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 19:34:36 2018 No.4743850 I looked around my friendly neighborhood game store for a Saturn and some games. They do have the console but very few games that aren't sports. Do they just not have the good ones in stock or did Saturn have no good ones?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 30 20:16:22 2018 No.4743956 >>4743850 The good games are rare and expensive.

Anonymous Mon Apr 30 20:35:54 2018 No.4743993

>>4738969
I always loved the per character line color feature (you could have all 16 colors in a tile). Single-color sprites suck, but it wouldn't be so hopelessly bad if you were able to stack them without immediately just getting fucked by the 4 sprites/line limit, the thing supports 32 on screen. Plus, the color palette is really pleasant.
It has its good points.

plus, it's not as entirely awful as the fucking Spectrum

Anonymous Tue May 1 12:09:49 2018 No.4745240

>>4743375
>have you seriously not played panzer dragoon saga with the 3D controller? it controls so much better with it.

I have. The only thing that controls "better" with it is walking around in towns. Which really doesn't matter because I just hold the dash button every time there to get to where I want faster, so the analog controls might as well not be there at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 18:53:55 2018 No.4746023 File: 42 KB, 640x400, segata.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4734745 CORRECT

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 20:46:30 2018 No.4746206 >>4743850 Some games can be found for cheap on Amazon: 3-Pack: Daytona USA, Virtua Cop, Virtua Fighter 2 Sega Rally Virtual On (about 20ish) Nights (about 30ish)

Anonymous Wed May 2 22:05:49 2018 No.4748369
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>>4734745
>>4734748
In those days, it was the best decision for me since my Playstation was dying, and no one wanted the Saturn so all the games were cheap. Retailers were clearing out all their Saturn games. So many great finds were in the clearance bins no one wanted because people were on a Playstation high leading me to be the only one buying games for it in my area. Didn't realize how many games I had for the system until I got bored at work and started entering them into an online database, sitting just shy of 300 titles.

>>4736585
Very nice! I am so jealous you got Symphony of the Night and the 4MB version of MSHvsSF.

>>4743140
I think it was the InterAct Game Shark and InterAct Memory Card that had the slot damaging PCBs. Those are extra thick.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 00:20:13 2018 No.4750448 Great. I just bought a used Saturn and I think the save battery is dead. Also where's the best place to get used Saturn games? Ebay?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 01:06:49 2018 No.4750489 >>4750448 Japan

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 01:22:35 2018 No.4750498 >>4734920 BECAUSE SKELETONS

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 06:43:56 2018 No.4750764 File: 2.43 MB, 4032x3024, IMG-2426.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] saturn blows

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 06:45:18 2018 No.4750769 File: 1.99 MB, 4032x3024, IMG-2348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4750764

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 17:28:48 2018 No.4751650 >>4734745 Can someone explain the "for me it's the" meme

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 20:45:40 2018 No.4751986 >>4750764 >No Thunderforce V >No Radiant Silvergun >no Cho Aneki >no Magical Cotton Boomerang 1 or 2 Step up Sempai.

>>	Dillweed Fri May 4 20:58:36 2018 No.4752003 >>4734756 >SG-1000 >Shit >Master System >Low Get a noose and hang yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 21:00:36 2018 No.4752007 File: 75 KB, 512x384, virtualhydlide.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] true hidden gem

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 21:06:43 2018 No.4752018 >>4751650 For me it's this poster

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 23:39:14 2018 No.4752253 Waiting for my Saturn Unlocker to arrive in the mail and finally fixed my laptop so that I can burn games on it. What are your favorite Saturn games? Recommend me some.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 14:21:17 2018 No.4753465 >>4734745 Dark Saviour was the best title for the Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 14:23:14 2018 No.4753470 >>4753465 You mean Vampire Savior?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 20:59:44 2018 No.4754391 >>4750769 Indeed, that is COOL.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 00:32:15 2018 No.4754748 >>4752007 I would enjoy this game if it ran in double digit framerates.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 07:27:56 2018 No.4755178 File: 3 KB, 125x120, 1476485715004s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4752253 SATURN BOMBERMAN WAKU WAKU 7 BUBBLE BOBBLE AND RAINBOW ISLANDS

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 08:53:01 2018 No.4755229 >>4752253 >Waiting for my Saturn Unlocker to arrive in the mail lol wat is that what they call modchips nowadays?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 09:16:07 2018 No.4755265 Anyone want to do a trade? I have Princess Crown as an offer.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 11:43:13 2018 No.4755529 >>4755178 Thanks. >>4755229 You don't need a mod chip nowadays. The Unlocker lets you play backups by itself. https://retrogamerandbackups.com/products/sega-saturn-unlocker#productTabs

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 12:25:28 2018 No.4755642 File: 1.85 MB, 3057x1869, sega64.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my collection so far. I regret not getting SFZ3 when the normal price for it was under 90€

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 12:27:12 2018 No.4755647 >>4755642 >Virtual Shock WE ARE! WE ARE!!!! WE AREEEEEE! EEEEEEEEEEEEECKSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 12:32:17 2018 No.4755665 >>4755642 oh I forgot PAL Space Hulk from the picture

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 12:59:21 2018 No.4755771 >>4755529 Its just an overpriced Action Replay pre-flashed with pseudo Saturn Kai. I just bought an AR and a copy of Panzer Dragoon to do the swap trick to install pseudo Saturn kai for just under 40 euro.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 16:28:50 2018 No.4756284 Well, with the advent of Pseudo Saturn, I've stopped focusing on physical games and started focusing more on peripherals. My current gems are my Virtual On twin sticks and my This is Cool controller

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 17:21:51 2018 No.4756376 >>4755529 >The Unlocker lets you play backups by itself. It costs 3x as much as a modchip and blocks the cart port so you can't save games. Plus its an unofficial cart so it wrecks the cart slot. Are people this fucking stupid?

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